Canon R5 vs Sony A7SIII vs 1dx Mark III - The Ultimate Video Shootout

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  • @DavidHorizonFilms
    @DavidHorizonFilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    The dynamic range alone in the sony A7siii is worth 10 points to me :)

    • @spycam111
      @spycam111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Same. I'll take higher dynamic range and bit depth over resolution any day. 16-bit RAW and 15 stops of dynamic range is crazy. You'd normally have to get a RED for those specs.

    • @andrescarrasco1248
      @andrescarrasco1248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sony was clearly delaying this camera, the specs are simply outstanding, and Sony has been so long on the mirrorless game that they are just on the top of the game, Sony's bodies are just so reliable right now, while the r5 is getting more people away from the brand

    • @weigertj
      @weigertj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      C-Log3 is also coming for the R5, the Sony won't have a huge advantage.

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@weigertj Until Canon fixes overheating in firmware, C-Log wouldn't make a difference too. I think someone did a teardown of the R5 and it was built to overheat, with improper thermal pads on the processor. And even with fresh thermal paste, it still overheated, meaning it's the Canon cripple hammer at work again.

    • @kevindiossi
      @kevindiossi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@professionalpotato4764 you're reading influenced information, my friend. The actual facts can be found when you read more information that is available. The camera is artificially or prematurely overheating. It is also cooling down significantly quicker than the camera says it is. The temperature of the camera is recorded in RAW files and now that we know this, everyone is doing work to find out how it actually heats up and cools down. The conclusion is that it's a firmware update away from vastly improved video use. At least as it relates to cool down times and thermal management as you shoot photos and switch the video. The camera is on a strange timer that doesn't appear to depend on the actual camera temperature being read directly off the main board.

  • @donif
    @donif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    8:35 wohoho🔥🔥 sony a7siii incredible dynamic range

    • @NikosPer
      @NikosPer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      washed out

  • @jdawg63000
    @jdawg63000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've always loved Parker's VS videos and the point system. You really break it down in an intuitive way. What I would give to spend a week mentoring with you guys! I worked over 100 hours at my nursing job and I'm still booking clients and trying to squeeze in practice because I want to be the best. I love my Sony a7iii but I have so much to learn. About 50% through the course. Thank you Parker, Jake and Landon. You guys are an inspiration.

  • @drummer716
    @drummer716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Pre-ordered the a7s3 can't wait to get it!!

    • @remikus
      @remikus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So true

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Just got a new job so I can order my A7S3 in 2-3 years!
      *fresh grad crying noises*

  • @MatthewEncina
    @MatthewEncina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Thanks for the comparison of the 3. This is very helpful.

  • @rajspeaks7478
    @rajspeaks7478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Editing wise Landon could make Parker his assistant.😂😂
    Sry but the boss stays boss

    • @nafeesnamedit
      @nafeesnamedit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      cause he made the video. And Parker helped Landon to make this. That's why

    • @denispetrov650
      @denispetrov650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nafees An Noor not the reason call him assistant lol

    • @controllverse4013
      @controllverse4013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Landon has Sony skin tones while Parker has Canon skin tones. Interesting. Awesome job gentlemen. Top notch!

    • @Travis015
      @Travis015 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@controllverse4013 wich skin tone is the best you think

    • @controllverse4013
      @controllverse4013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi @@Travis015! I don't want to get too personal with Landon and Parker's skin tones, so I'll say no comment on that one. LOL but between Canon and Sony, I'd rather have the slightly less saturation and 2 more stops of dynamic range of the Sony. And sometimes, even the Sony has more saturated and magenta skin tones than the Canon. It's a toss up.

  • @SamMasghati
    @SamMasghati 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Love that Parker still recommends the 1dxm3 over the others, even though it had the least amount of points.

    • @surgefilmsbroome7239
      @surgefilmsbroome7239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They work for him, he's made his success on the back of that camera line (and skill and stuff).

    • @davidmc4382
      @davidmc4382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sometimes you just can't give up the old faithful

    • @artapichendusae9498
      @artapichendusae9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      22:20

    • @realhoneygreen
      @realhoneygreen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He's Canon Lover 😅

    • @TheCommentFactory
      @TheCommentFactory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Because he already dropped a bank on it lol

  • @Cmeigs017
    @Cmeigs017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "They're just different!"
    Spot on.
    Lighting and technique are far more important than gear.
    Sure, some cameras can really improve your shot quality, but nailing lighting and composition will up your game far faster than gear will.

    • @daltonrandall4348
      @daltonrandall4348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks, captain obvious. But your skill is your skill, and you should always be trying to improve it. In the meantime, you should also get the best performing tools you can.

  • @philipbloom
    @philipbloom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    240fps in HD doesn’t need CFe A. Set camera to XAVC-S HD 4:2:2 10 bit. You need a V90 SD CARD. Only in XAVC S-I S&Q do you need CFe A for the 100/120fps and 200/240 FPS. Just use the non All-I codecs instead.

    • @CreateGreg
      @CreateGreg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always on the ball. 😃👍

    • @matthijsdedeugd
      @matthijsdedeugd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for the confirmation, already started googling and crying about getting expensive cf cards.

    • @DP_Daro
      @DP_Daro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Phillip I have a question. Can I record 4k 600mbps on v90 card or do I need cf-a card? Also does 4k 120fps max bitrate require cf-a cards or just top of the line v90? Thanks in advance :)

    • @victorlolo2008
      @victorlolo2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can I use v60 to record if set to 8bit

    • @philipbloom
      @philipbloom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dariusz Pawłowski where is 4K 600mbps? Is this s&q mode?

  • @krystofvydra
    @krystofvydra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I like the Sony colors little bit more, it looks more like some cine cameras.

    • @MatiasBertuzziPH
      @MatiasBertuzziPH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They have improved a lot since the first A7 Mark I in terms of color science, also they deliver the most for the price. Props to Sony for doing a great job overall.

    • @qtben17
      @qtben17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sony in general has better dynamic range which works well for videography. But for photos, Sony’s color science is difficult to work with. Esp if u have 1000+ photos to edit in post. Lol

    • @lovesushma48
      @lovesushma48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nowhere near Canon colors
      Canon colors are legendary

    • @daryllcalpito
      @daryllcalpito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@lovesushma48 I think they mean straight out of camera. Tony Northrup did a blind test and everyone picked Sony for the best colours.

    • @tsinchansue
      @tsinchansue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that my friend is because of the 15 stop DR

  • @jaikavi5464
    @jaikavi5464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely fantastic comparison. I can't believe I watched the whole thing. Honest, thorough and engaging

  • @seanwhitman4365
    @seanwhitman4365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I like how u trained ur guys to speak exactly like u lol

  • @mondobytes
    @mondobytes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Parker coming in with that 🔥🔥

    • @mondobytes
      @mondobytes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Parker Walbeck bro let’s do it haha! I’ll do all the tests and you can just talk about it l, deal? 🤣

  • @michaelluzecky4026
    @michaelluzecky4026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ok, I gotta admit, it was kinda funny that Landon called Parker “my assistant” when it should be the other way around. 😂😂😂

  • @olympic_productions
    @olympic_productions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Full time Filmaker. Those guys produce awesome clips, incredibly informative, absorbing and fun to watch.
    They cut to the chase directly, no bs or unnecessary commentary. Glad to be learning from them.
    Thank you guys! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @youriwatson930
    @youriwatson930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really appreciate the effort you guys put into these videos. Research, example shots, editing, you thought of everything! Thanks alot

  • @Atamaii
    @Atamaii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Very thorough except--what about in body audio? I haven't yet seen anyone demonstrate how to get 4 channels of audio into the Sony A7S III. The Sony XLR K3M only outputs 2 channels.

    • @gimiked8685
      @gimiked8685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you are doing 4 channels of audio then you should be using something external as far as I am aware. Zoom or Tascam have external devices that enable 4 channels or more of xlr imputs or 1/4 inch jacks usually. And they let you record backups as well as give you a line out for imput into the camera's mic jack. Im not an audio engineer so I might not have understood the question, I am just a guitar player with 25 years of playing around with sound and 6 years of camera work that audio is not my strong suit in. But as far as I am aware the K3M, just as Panasonics version, only gives you a couple channels of audio. That works for a couple boom mic's that can record a broad area. Or a couple lav mic's for example. But if you need more than that I use a Zoom H6 with 6 channel recording. Or record each source individually and mix them in post with the Zoom h1n with a backup on the camera in case I have a problem with one of the audio sources. Just my personal way of doing things as a bootleg sound guy/one man band. But if I have a lot to record in audio I use the on camera xlr's as my backup auido in case I have a problem with a bad cable, jack, battery, or sd card on the Zoom's.

    • @Atamaii
      @Atamaii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gimiked8685 Sony had a webinar and i asked them about this. They had a complicated slide which I did not screen shot. They claimed that the K3M will send 2 lines of stereo to the A7SIII. If you look, some of the product video from Sony shows 4 audio channels active on the touch screen. I vlog and if I had to record external I would buy a new camcorder instead.

    • @jalexanderevans
      @jalexanderevans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the k3m has a built un mic, a 3.5, and two xlrs? Idk I'll let you know when I get mine.

    • @Atamaii
      @Atamaii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jalexanderevans I have mine now. The XLR-K3M has 2 x XLR mono inputs, with Attenuation and a Low Cut filter, gain, and (line power?). Plus 1 x 3.5mm stereo input with Input gain only. So getting the 4 channel is doable, a little awkward. 4 x XLR would be better, but that would be a cinema camera. I will use it mostly "in studio" on a tripod. For walking around I ordered the smaller mic ECM-B1M

    • @jalexanderevans
      @jalexanderevans 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Atamaii yeah, I was thinking about it later and thought about the on-camera mic. The files working okay for you? Heard they only sometimes work in Premier Pro.

  • @edwardleefilms
    @edwardleefilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I literally feel like I should’ve paid to watch this. Thank you so much fulltime filmmaker team for your effort and hard work on this!!

    • @iforgotmyusername0
      @iforgotmyusername0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      these guys are the best.

    • @juanromero961
      @juanromero961 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You kind of did with your view, like, and subscribing - if you did lol

  • @camspotr9012
    @camspotr9012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    14:07 "Canon showing that they are catering [the R5 and 1DX III] first to photographers with video as their secondary goal while Sony is clearly making this camera specifically for video shooters"

    • @MrModikoe
      @MrModikoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah but when gunning for being the ultimate hybrid monster in a compact body the result are simple, 🔥🔥🔥🔥(literally). Sony knows it got the a7 & a9 for other priorities so what you get is a reliable shooter.

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention, for just online use, 12MP is good enough.

    • @77dris
      @77dris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      R5 is a photo beast, might as well be comparing a hassleblad to the A7SIII. That camera is so crippled at 12 MP, no pro would be caught dead with it. I've been shooting as a pro photographer for 15 years, mostly with 1 Series cams.... sold my R the other week to see what i would get next, and heard 12 MP on the Sony and laughed pretty hard. The A7RIV is a better camera than the A7SIII and yet, the A7RIV is still a generation behind the R5 when it comes to sensor tech (R5 has more dynamic range than any full frame camera to date in Photons to Photos tests) , and the R5 is slightly better at eye AF now, and has better video options as the A7RIV can only do 4K 30.
      It's sad that in order to make a camera good at video, Sony severely crippled the A7SIII. And the whole "12 MP is good enough for online use" is the biggest pile of horse#$@ I've ever heard. Guess what? 99% of video is viewed on TH-cam - which is 8 bit iPB - in 1080 or less on tiny cellphone screens. Resolution is more important to photography than it is to video. Colours are more important than resolution, and Sony colours have been crippled for years. Canon has put cinema grade colours in all their cameras, all the way down to the $500 rebel cameras.

    • @77dris
      @77dris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@professionalpotato4764 🤣 If that makes you feel better about spending $4800 on a one trick pony then great! As a pro photographer (which makes up a far greater share of consumers than videographers), I gave up 12 MP back in about 2009. Good luck with all that.

    • @daltonrandall4348
      @daltonrandall4348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@77dris "That camera is so crippled at 12 MP, no pro would be caught dead with it." Uh, no *photography* pro. Which is fine, since it's not a camera aimed at photographers. They have their a7RIV for that. Hybrid cameras are always a compromise in one place or another, I wish they would just stop making them. But the masses keep falling for it. The people in this video are right... Canon did a piss poor job marketing the R5. It's a photography camera with a video mode tacked on. The a7SIII is the opposite. Naturally photographers are going to be drawn to the Canon, while videographers are going to be drawn to the Sony. But whereas Sony has an answer for the photographers, Canon leaves people shooting video out in the cold...

  • @iforgotmyusername0
    @iforgotmyusername0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its always refreshing to see camera reviews from actual filmmakers that make real money from real clients instead of TH-camrs. Keep up the good work.

  • @maxxwellwalt
    @maxxwellwalt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Landon: what's up guys Landon here from full-time filmmaker with my assistant Parker...
    Parker: 😁😁😁😝
    11:18 correction: The a7S III has a new menu system and the the touch screen works throughout with the menu.😀

    • @airb1976
      @airb1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They tried this new Menu System and Canons is more intuitive and also cusomizable. So whatts your point?
      The touch Screen of the R5/R6 is far more better in use, especially during Shooting

  • @topeojomo333
    @topeojomo333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Much love from Nigeria guys!!

  • @DanCroitor
    @DanCroitor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally someone who knows how to make a comparison between these two. Bravo!

  • @pascalussailplanercglider4187
    @pascalussailplanercglider4187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys.. you are really Best in Class.. leading the game .... Clear messages, fair comments , very structured mindset, friendly video. High level of professionalism. Thanks a million

  • @miguelhuerta9873
    @miguelhuerta9873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me personally I love both Canon and Sony, at the end of the day it comes to what your needs are. I shoot with a Sony A7iii and im happy with it and i started with a Canon T6i. Love the comparison and video Parker.👍🏽

  • @PradigyMusicman
    @PradigyMusicman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First thing, u guys are amazing and I admire your grind. 2nd) the a7siii is just a pure video mirrorless and a low light beast and for Real estates or night car videos that camera is the best one imo.

  • @TheTylerRossmann
    @TheTylerRossmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the video I was waiting for! Thanks for going so in-depth!

  • @GriffinConway
    @GriffinConway 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff Parker and team. Always enjoy your comparison videos.

  • @ResizeFilms
    @ResizeFilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Can’t wait to get the a7S III in September, tremendous job from Sony!

  • @JoelffyBritoUnlimited
    @JoelffyBritoUnlimited 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ordering the Sony a7siii it will work best for my content 🙏🏽🔥

  • @ksteneide2
    @ksteneide2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killed it Parker and Landon! Thank you so much for this! Your members thank you.

  • @nomad0714
    @nomad0714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Parker and Landon!
    Am always amazed at the negative comments but I guess it’s because the US English vocabulary has double the negative words to positive.
    There was a lot of work put into this video and since I shoot both Sony and Canon and use them as tools that works for my needs, I appreciate these videos and effort put into it.
    Although the R5 and A7S3 tied based on your scoring system, you highlighted what’s most important for your use case(s) and chose the 1DXM3.
    If I had to suggest the 3 camera bodies, I would say:
    - A7S3: for prosumers (with disposable money) to pros (indie filmmakers with limited budget) shooting mostly if not all video projects;
    - R5: prosumers and pros who shoots mostly stills and some video (split 60-70+/30-40+) projects;
    - 1DXM3: pros with legacy invested EF lenses and have a crew and just need reliability and durability and shoot all video projects (with some stills here and there)
    Then there are large production projects with larger budgets to afford a crew, then clearly the cinema video cameras are the way to go and even then, you can rent them as it doesn’t make sense to shoot with these cams everyday, as to rig up it’s big and heavy and lots of equipment are required. And this way, you don’t have to chase which brand and/or latest tech.

  • @AeviumFilms
    @AeviumFilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    So impressed with how Sony has stepped up their game 👌🏼

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Now all that's left is to bring the new tech/features to A7IV, and hopefully some of it to the new line of a7000 aps-c series.

    • @noidnoexit
      @noidnoexit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Professional Potato yup! I’ll also wait for the a7iv since they are cheaper and more well rounded for photo and video but they still get the features from the s and r cameras.

    • @iWubmusic
      @iWubmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sony has always been a head of the game in film making.

  • @AuthenTech
    @AuthenTech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Wow, SONY kills it! 💪 I'll take the a7siii for sure (but seriously, R5 is still a great option)

    • @dyh914
      @dyh914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not when Canon officially announced it has overheating issues. There are plenty of other options where you don't have to worry about this. Lumix S1H, Blackmagic pocket 6k, Nikon Z7 etc... all better options in my opinion. But you are right the Sony is a great option.

    • @airb1976
      @airb1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It doesnt. It was a Draw! The Canon R5 is by far the best hybrid camera. Sony focuses more on Video. If you shoot mostly Video you will choose the sony

    • @stephaned3072
      @stephaned3072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@airb1976 this whole review is about video.they choosing camera for video mainly

    • @aldenispineda4628
      @aldenispineda4628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@airb1976 nah in each rank sony wins from a7 to a7r or 7s and let's not say the a9 destroy canon always, when canon thinks hes winning boom sony comes out close mouths hahaha

    • @airb1976
      @airb1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aldenispineda4628 the a9 has inferior AF to canon

  • @65Drums
    @65Drums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was an extremely clean break down. Thanks so much!

  • @constantineaxon9765
    @constantineaxon9765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was waiting for this comparison from you guys!!

  • @hl6816
    @hl6816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great comparison!! I am leaning towards the A7sIII, but I like what Canon is doing and would gladly own both if I could. At this point, it really is just preference as all three of these cameras can do some pretty amazing things!

  • @anthonyc1883
    @anthonyc1883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Camera gear lust has always been a thing but in this hypermarket we're in it's almost out of control. Parker's concluding comments about just getting out there and doing it, and stop fighting on the internet about whose camera is "better" is so important. Any good photographer or videographer using any of the major systems could pick up a rival system and still KILL IT. Guaranteed. Yes, he or she has a favorite system for a reason, but ultimately it just doesn't matter. It's a lesson for us all.

  • @Mike0193Azul
    @Mike0193Azul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing reviews and talking points in support of each camera! ❤️

  • @MelodicalMedia
    @MelodicalMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have legit waited all week for this video to come... It's felt like the longest week in my life!

  • @Pmjmedia
    @Pmjmedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see the 1DX MKIII vs the R6 in low light situation!

  • @Hangs4Fun
    @Hangs4Fun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    They did a pretty good job with their categories and the likert scale for each category was properly simplex, removing complexity from judging the value, yet still allowing you to come to a fairly nominal value that you could draw conclusions from.
    What I would recommend people to do to arrive at a conclusion for their situation, is to also add a "Weight" to each category. For example, 0 means it isn't important, 1 means it matters, 2 means it is important, and 3 means it is a show stopper. You then multiply the 0,1, 2 likert scale result times the weight. So if lowlight is a show stopper (aka a weight of 3) and the A7SIII gets your #1 spot or 2 points on the likert scale, you would give the A7SIII 6 points for lowlight (3 weight times 2 score on likert scale).
    Now you could take their scores for each category and adjust the final results based on weighting each category. Their current method gives the same exact value for each category, as way of making it even for everyone, but by applying this weighting technique to their scores, you could arrive at a conclusion that is more focused on what your find important. Which is kind of what each of them did separately at the end.

    • @sixsoxsex1
      @sixsoxsex1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one, pro cinema is true 12 bit color ProRes 4444
      or 12 bit log encoding Raw or that is the same 16 bit linear Raw.

  • @mmajestic40
    @mmajestic40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are awesome you keep do all this gust for help new filmmakers and push them to creat more
    Big respect

  • @sebasmediaprod
    @sebasmediaprod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Parker is the Man! He made me start making videos at my TH-cam channel! Learning a lot from him (in Spain)

  • @AlSoPi
    @AlSoPi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    6:07 Definitely the funniest af test of all here on yt🤭🤣

  • @meyerdigitalfilm
    @meyerdigitalfilm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    i totally agree with all points except the sony lens options: Yeah i agree with sony's own lenses but with tamron sigma samyang etc the lens enviroment doesn't miss anything.<
    But honestly

    • @alfiandifahmi3534
      @alfiandifahmi3534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yeah, it's false category

    • @alfiandifahmi3534
      @alfiandifahmi3534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Dano-Media and it comes with the best AF without adapter, it's another selling point for us sony shooter

    • @Hangs4Fun
      @Hangs4Fun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed, was going to say the same thing. The category was literally called Lens Options. Also, from what Potato Jet said about the Sigma adapter (the one Sony recommended), you get fast AF from your Canon EF glass. But, they did a pretty good job with their categories and the likert scale for each category was simple removing complexity from judging the value, yet still allowing you to come to a fairly nominal value that you could draw conclusions from. What I would recommend is to also add a "Weight" to each category. 0 means it isn't important, 1 means it matters, 2 means it is important, and 3 means it is a show stopper. You then multiply the 0,1, 2 likert scale result times the weight. So if lowlight is a show stopper (aka a weight of 3) and the A7SIII gets your #1 spot or 2 points on the likert scale, you would give the A7SIII 6 points for lowlight (3 weight times 2 score on likert scale). Now you could take their scores for each category and adjust the final results based on weighting each category. Their current method gives the same exact value for each category, as way of making it even for everyone, but by applying this weighting technique to their scores, you could arrive at a conclusion that is more focused on what your find important. Which is kind of what each of them did separately at the end.

    • @MChronicler
      @MChronicler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was expecting Sony to come in first or second(First being EF) for lens options. It's the main reason I switched because you get affordable options from Tamron and Sigma. I personally have the Tamron Holy Trinity and they're an amazing value.

    • @drbeardo6960
      @drbeardo6960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dano-Media
      Checkout Jared Polin's latest vid on rhis
      Canon have made their own arapters and EF mount lenses work on R bodies even better than with DSLRs (because of new technologies in mirrorless bodies)
      Sony hasn't made their own adapter that can be used to adapt canon glasses
      and they even can't make
      In short
      Canon adapter : Canon Rf body + Canon EF glass
      it's all canon to canon thing
      so it works flawlessly

  • @geoffreyenriquez
    @geoffreyenriquez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the ending. It doesn't matter what you shoot with, just learn how to do the best with what you've got. Sure it's a plug to join your film school but skills > gear especially during this era where most of the new cameras coming out do a great job. Skills are also transferable no matter what camera/system/lens you use.

  • @shotsfiredbyjameswills358
    @shotsfiredbyjameswills358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pre-Ordered my A7siii last week and grabbed a Ninja V while i was at it - so pumped!!!

  • @avalanwa
    @avalanwa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    St. Paul is back with another banger!
    #FullTimeFilmMaker on deck! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @GalIsaev
    @GalIsaev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Was waiting for this😍 saw a lot of comparisons already but u cant say no to full time film maker ❤️

    • @DanAllouche
      @DanAllouche 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cant go wrong with fulltime filmmaker

    • @basbasii9520
      @basbasii9520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya ya 😍

  • @peternavanac9310
    @peternavanac9310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate the thoroughness in real world situations review. Super helpful. Thanks!

  • @GarrettMusic1
    @GarrettMusic1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is perfect for me as I'm investing into gear right now. Thanks for making this Parker

  • @PatrickRambles
    @PatrickRambles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was easily the best review I've seen so far. I have the R5 in pre-order and really hope Canon will fix some of the issues with software updates...

    • @mytravelsaroundtheworld3525
      @mytravelsaroundtheworld3525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh. If your preorder R5 has not arrived yet, you actually have chance to correct your order.
      Glad.

    • @YogaLifeEtc
      @YogaLifeEtc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the past, has Canon released major software updates?

  • @AstenRegis
    @AstenRegis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice review and comparison guys. I mainly use Canon cameras but the Sony A7s III is looking like the one I'd go for here.The Sony auto focus has really caught up to Canon's awesome dual pixel auto focus.But still love those Canon colours straight out of the camera. Sony's 15 stops of dynamic range wins it for me as this is one of the most important features I look for in a camera.

  • @edrakel3355
    @edrakel3355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks guys. Most informative video on camera comparisons.

  • @thozeguysagain
    @thozeguysagain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for this... This was super helpful, thank you!!

  • @Julyirn
    @Julyirn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Parker's focusing test is disturbing. LOL 🤣

  • @myJTP
    @myJTP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Coming from a fellow Canon Fan Boi I gotta say this is hands down the best unbiased review comparing the R5 to the A7S3. Great job!

  • @bucketlist.original
    @bucketlist.original 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The after effects smile of Landon, in the end, is awesome!

  • @manuelneni4711
    @manuelneni4711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    finally the video all Film-makers wanted to watch. 🔥📷👌

  • @tubble6
    @tubble6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Overheating: minus 15 points for the R5
    Makes it basically useless on a shoot and makes all the previous points obsolete.

    • @NearMedia
      @NearMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pretty much.

    • @vladimirtalijan
      @vladimirtalijan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, but if/when they change that through the firmware, R5 gets +1000 points and there is no reason for any other (mirrorless) camera to exist :)

    • @tubble6
      @tubble6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Vladimir Talijan no firmware can fix the fact that their high megapixel count increases the processing need and causes the overheating. Their best bet is to re-call every model and add an internal cooling system of some sorts.

    • @JonPais
      @JonPais 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vladimir Talijan 😂

    • @JonPais
      @JonPais 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Travel 4k sure. 5 minutes should be enough. then shoot for hours on end. in 45C heat.

  • @me2us
    @me2us 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was SO good. As a once Canon and now Sony user, I fully agree with the take on 'ease of use' and menu understandability. Canon was a lot more intuiitive. As much as Parker holds a (very reasonable) Canon bias, I loved how you broke this down and did so honestly and as least subjective as possible. One day I'm grabbing the A7SIII though, this video sealed it for me. Thanks guys for all you do and the level in which you do it!

  • @kevchristopher1107
    @kevchristopher1107 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review. This is the second video i've seen where the vast majority couldnt tell the difference in photos between the canon and sony. I've already had my pre-order in for the a7siii. Cant wait.

  • @itsmeericb
    @itsmeericb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can’t wait for the a7iv! That will be a really good dual purpose camera. Video is my primary function but I still love to shoot portraits, landscape etc as well.

  • @jpemile
    @jpemile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Canon vs Sony is like relationships. If you are married, even know your wife might have many flaws and gained a bit of weight after giving birth, she will always be your #1 and even know this new co-worker is the freaking bomb, you have already invested too much to make the switch. The real winners are the ones that play the game with their head, no strings attached.

    • @MrModikoe
      @MrModikoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @Hangs4Fun
      @Hangs4Fun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      yeah, you marry the lenses and date the bodies, lol

    • @devonwhite6923
      @devonwhite6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I could see women all over the world cringing at this comment.... #nowivesallowed #youregonnabeinbigtroublewhensheseesthis 😂

    • @artwizardsam3238
      @artwizardsam3238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perfectly explained lol!

    • @atharvanighot5667
      @atharvanighot5667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perfect metaphor!! LOL!!

  • @ShutterFanatic
    @ShutterFanatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Other than the price, I don’t even know why people are comparing these cameras. They were all designed for specific purposes. R5 is a landscape, wildlife, and portrait camera for people wanting to shoot some video. The 1DX, sports camera that can shoot some video and also for the people who still want a mirror (crazy I know). And finally, the Sony was created for the filmmaker on a budget and never plans on taking a still image.

    • @sweet4nice2003
      @sweet4nice2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Point well made... I guess you tubers just enjoy doing am these tests as promoz of their channels otherswise a shooter must know first their line of photography b4 any purchase. 😁

    • @dna8269
      @dna8269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And a camera like the BMPCC4K/6K destroy all of these in terms of image quality and not looking super "digital"

    • @BoonOng
      @BoonOng 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      u nailed it on still img. thanks

    • @ShutterFanatic
      @ShutterFanatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boon Ong Yep, the A7SIII is useless for weekend warrior dad like me.

  • @loafa1770
    @loafa1770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing comparison! you guys always kill it with comparisons

  • @judescott8595
    @judescott8595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice comparison, but the things that actually took my attention more is how good is the light setup of this video. Very soothing to my eyes and just nice.

  • @asteverson
    @asteverson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the comparison review, but the exclusion of the third party lenses were left out for Sony, Sigma and Tamron are killing it right now

  • @JudahSpeece
    @JudahSpeece 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Oh three cameras? this is better than last time! (My personal favorite is the Sony a7s iii! The 4K 120 and low light is insane!)

    • @77dris
      @77dris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That 12 MP cripple though.

    • @JudahSpeece
      @JudahSpeece 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      77dris good point, but this was made to be a video-first camera. And I feel like Fewer megapixels is a good trade off for the incredible videography settings, especially with minimal overheating

    • @77dris
      @77dris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JudahSpeece And the R5 is made to be a photo-first camera... but for some reason videos like this are comparing its video to one trick ponys like the A7SIII. Makes about as much sense as comparing a hassleblad medium format to a cinema camera.

    • @JudahSpeece
      @JudahSpeece 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      77dris Good point, but it all depends if you’re a photographer or videographer. This video is made by videographers, so obviously they are going to test out the video side. I’m sure if you looked you could find one comparing the photo aspects of these cameras

    • @kenr4676
      @kenr4676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@77dris lower pixels means lower noise

  • @skymakai
    @skymakai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolute monster review of these flagship cameras! Best review on the Internet!

  • @Isracalis
    @Isracalis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that's the video i have been waiting for🔥🔥

  • @itsmhmd3479
    @itsmhmd3479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I never watched a 25 minutes video .. but this is sick.

  • @NearMedia
    @NearMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So the point of this whole video was who cares what camera you get, just join full time filmmaker. Jk great video.

  • @JesseKatches
    @JesseKatches 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent video - really nailed this one guys. i appreciate you putting in the legwork!

  • @MuaathSobaih
    @MuaathSobaih 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man i only discovered your channel recently, and now i become addicted to your videos, you really are making nice and interesting videos 🤩

  • @BrannonNod
    @BrannonNod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'll take the model who works out😜😍

  • @jorgem50
    @jorgem50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    As a Panny user I'd totally switch over to Sony in a heartbeat!

    • @sasca854
      @sasca854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Panasonic's stubbornness to adopt a decent AF system is frustrating, as is the S1H's crop in 4K60, but Panasonic also offers many features and professional tools that simply are not (and probably will never be) available on either of these cameras. Hell, these don't even have scopes. I think the S2H could be really special.

    • @Makta972
      @Makta972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Panasonic is the dumbest brand ever. I Hated that stupid DFD crap

    • @jorgem50
      @jorgem50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Makta972 good for you troll. If you know about video you know we don't buy Panasonic for it's af. smh

    • @iforgotmyusername0
      @iforgotmyusername0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jorgem50 to be honest Pana with their current Af its not the best tool for amateurs unfortunately. Pros will want to have control over focus manually most times anyway so as you rightly said...

    • @jorgem50
      @jorgem50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iforgotmyusername0 exactly. I prefer to have total control of my focus. I'm not a pro but I know how to use my panasonic's in manual focus.

  • @jeffriegonzalez9938
    @jeffriegonzalez9938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BEST REVIEW ON THE INTERNET FOR THESE CAMERAS! THANK YOU!

  • @johnatanlopez8510
    @johnatanlopez8510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best comparison video I have seen between the R5 and a7SIII

  • @TheMiraldi
    @TheMiraldi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The color science on the Sony has been dialed in to be a more cinematic image and look more like there cinema line where as Canons colors are more on the documentary spectrum beautiful and contrasty right out of camera, which is what you want in a documentary type environment. So I wouldn't say one is better than the other, they are both striving to achieve different outcomes!

    • @surgefilmsbroome7239
      @surgefilmsbroome7239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And changed in camera given about 30 seconds...

    • @Makta972
      @Makta972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sorry but nothing "cinematic" with that sony footage

    • @TheMiraldi
      @TheMiraldi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Makta972 lmfao 🤣 you must be the local idiot

    • @DallasGreen123
      @DallasGreen123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Makta972 Agreed. Any idiot can tint the footage in postproduction. Why would you want that shit baked into your footage?

  • @NasserTone
    @NasserTone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Really one of the best reviews I ever saw!! Impressive! Thanks a lot! I wish you can compare Canon R5 with Blackmagic 6k on a similar video. or please could you kindly reply to my comment and tell me your opinion in summary on which you think is better?

    • @abdulrheem_alotaibi9257
      @abdulrheem_alotaibi9257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      أنا أعتقد أن الدقة بتكون أفضل في الEOS R5 تدعم 8Kوانت أبداً لاتكترث للحرارة لأن الأفلام أو المسلسلات عادةً كل لقطة يقعدون عليها يوم او نص يوم تخطيط وتركيب وتجربة الأدوار ومين يصلح للدور هذا ومين يصلح للدور هذا. أما الBlack magic من خبرتي أن فيها تغميش خاصةً في التصوير الليلي والتفاصيل ماتبان أكثر مع الإضاءة الليلية والألوان جداً سيئة أنا أقترح عليك الEOS R5 ولكن اذا عندك ميزانية وكان مجالك هو أفلام وhigh quality أقترح عليك EOS C70 أفضل كاميرا تقدر تشتريها بالسعر الموجود حالياً وأتمنى أنك استفدت من المقالة هذي

  • @rickyang9930
    @rickyang9930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the way you compare the cameras

  • @AngGabriel
    @AngGabriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The outro was fire. Parker killed it.

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The images out of that R5 just look so damn good... Is the R6 the best overall option maybe??

  • @Kitrinanongrum
    @Kitrinanongrum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just love to watch your Video.
    I'm your big fan now 7 years..
    I just dream I will get Good camera ,Good lighting but in my Dream only..
    I use only lower Camera Sony @68 😢😢😢

  • @Retipster
    @Retipster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, great comparison review. This was exactly what I needed to see!

    • @jv8studios
      @jv8studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great! What’s your favourite camera?

  • @AlexPizarro
    @AlexPizarro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This intro Parker becoming his assistant it all came full circle!

  • @maurizioricci9274
    @maurizioricci9274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The dream of my life is to say: "My assistet Parker" ❤️

  • @77dris
    @77dris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's amazing to see a 45 MP photo beast of a camera go toe to toe with a one trick pony video camera, and still beat it in most IQ categories for video! And the R5 has the best dynamic range for photos of any current full frame camera, better than the D850, Z7 and A7RIV, and on par with the medium format GFX50. Canon's new sensor is really magic!

    • @YogaLifeEtc
      @YogaLifeEtc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely as long as you don't intend to use it for very long and you have a second R5 for back up.

    • @nattyfilmz764
      @nattyfilmz764 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YogaLifeEtc LOL

  • @mattdownn
    @mattdownn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By far the best video team on youtube, BY FAR

  • @lucasboyle959
    @lucasboyle959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a review where people can see things clearly thank you

  • @RafaelGringo
    @RafaelGringo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "It doesn't matter what you shoot with, learn how to use what you already have to its fullest potential."
    That's one of the reasons this is my favorite filmmaking channel ever.

    • @daltonrandall4348
      @daltonrandall4348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it's also the reason they'll keep getting uninformed sheep to keep watching.

    • @RafaelGringo
      @RafaelGringo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daltonrandall4348 I don't get your point or what you mean by "uninformed". The video is filled with information, the same information you can find in many other reviews. But yeah, in the end, the camera is just a tool (also proven many times in other videos in the same channel). Whoever thinks the camera matters more than the human behind it is the real "sheep" in my opinion.

    • @daltonrandall4348
      @daltonrandall4348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RafaelGringo They're both important. You said, quote, *it doesn't matter what you shoot with.* You can believe that all you want, but there's a reason Steven Spielberg doesn't shoot his movies on an iPhone. Yes, you need to learn your craft. But dismissing the tool as unimportant because "it's all about skill" is equally ignorant. These videos sell you on the dream that you too can be as great as the best professionals, and "you don't need the high end gear because the secrets lie within you!" It's a con to get you to buy into what THEY are selling, and if you believe it, yes, you are a sheep.

    • @RafaelGringo
      @RafaelGringo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daltonrandall4348 Anyone who has ever shoot with a cheap entry level camera and a high end one knows there's a huge difference, not only in quality but also in ease of life. Also, everyone reaches a point where their gear simply can't do what they need. The fact is in the CONTEXT of the video, do it really matter if you shoot with a A7S, 1DX or R5? They're all beasts. That's my take on the quote I did.

    • @daltonrandall4348
      @daltonrandall4348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RafaelGringo Yes, it absolutely matters. If you're on a production and your camera says it won't shoot unless you turn it off for 2 hours, you're screwed. They are not all beasts. Sony is not a "beast" when it comes to still photography. Canon is not a "beast" when it comes to video. Pick the correct tool for the job, and certainly don't pretend they don't matter.

  • @legendp2011
    @legendp2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    what about high brightness screen setting on the sony?

    • @foxhouse_video
      @foxhouse_video 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even Canon M100 screen is more comfortable than A7III. 500$ vs 2000$ Sony want you to struggle!

  • @jajabarbd1289
    @jajabarbd1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very efficient comparison. Loved it. Many thanks.

  • @Queenwraith
    @Queenwraith 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the review, just what I’ve been looking for. I’m looking to upgrade from the mk3, mainly for photography rather than vids. Would you recommend the R5 still? Any other brands or models you’d recommend looking at in Nov 21? Thanks so much!

  • @WillStinton
    @WillStinton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Let’s be honest, we’re all kinda stuck in the system that we’ve invested the most in glass 22:23

    • @Gueli
      @Gueli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will Stinton spot on!

    • @anthonyc1883
      @anthonyc1883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet there are YT channels (not Parker's) and countless viewer comments of "Time to switch!!" like every 6-8 months. In this hypermarket we're in with The Next Big Thing always right around the corner, so many photographers are switching systems (or at least claiming to) like some people change their socks. It's crazy.

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah... All the more so for people like me who're starting out. I'm still on the SL2/200D, with the Sigma 18-35 most of the time.
      I want to upgrade but a full frame kit esp Sony is just too expensive. 2 bodies + 1 trinity sets me back at least $10k-12k.
      Or I could just buy 2 M6 Mk2 and another lens for like 3-4k.
      Until I'm getting paid 4-5 figure freelance jobs, I doubt I'll ever be able to touch full frame D:
      Wish I had stuck with Sony. I sold the a5100 after it overheated like every 10 minutes of 1080p.

    • @WillStinton
      @WillStinton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Professional Potato I was where you are with 80D, Tokina 11-16mm, and 50mm 1.8. I did real estate for 2 years with that setup before going full frame with Sony. I bought the A7iii when it first came out and the 16-35mm GM. You can do a lot of jobs with just one camera and one lens and just build from there.

    • @daltonrandall4348
      @daltonrandall4348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope. For photography, I shot Canon for over a decade and had a fair amount of "L" glass. They dragged their heels on mirrorless for so long that I switched to Sony around 2015 and sold all of my lenses. Go with the tools that work for you. It's nice to see the R5 finally starting to catch up, but I'm really tired of these cameras that think they can do it all. There is always a compromise. Sony has the right approach with a model dedicated strictly to video, and another line dedicated primarily to stills. I wish they'd just ditch the video function from the a7RIV completely, to be honest... you don't buy it for that (just like you don't buy the a7SIII for stills). But people are either okay with "hyrbid" cameras being "good enough" or they just aren't educated about their tools (probably a bit of both). If the R5 had just straight out been developed as an alternative to the a7RIV, they'd have a clear solid option. Instead, they marketed it as a video camera first and nobody is going to deal with it that way. I admit that I'm less hesitant to switch again due to having glass, but the cameras from both brands mostly do what I need now. 5 years ago, however, Canon was lagging wayyy behind. Even their glass couldn't save them.

  • @StarshipGhost
    @StarshipGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Really wish the Sony had good IBIS, but I'm still buying it.

    • @JOTC
      @JOTC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      WIth active stab activated its actually a lot better... but you wouldn't see that on this video because they never showed it. lol

    • @StarshipGhost
      @StarshipGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JOTC yea I think it will be good enough for what I need it for.

    • @sasca854
      @sasca854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JOTC Active stabilization was active the entire time. They mentioned this in one of their replies to Philip Bloom's comments in this comment section.

    • @StarshipGhost
      @StarshipGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaegerschtulmann That is true, I forgot about the gyro data.

  • @Evgeniy_Shaman
    @Evgeniy_Shaman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank u guys, your video is most honest and hight quality comparison which i saw

  • @Paddy_Mac
    @Paddy_Mac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys, what a *great presentation* comparing these cameras. When you consider what is available now we are just so incredibly lucky.