I went to study in Uganda,my roommate was an acholi Ugandan girl,am a Kenyan Luo,a friend of hers came to visit her, the friend started gossiping in acholi,I smiled at them and explain to them what they just said😂 the languages are so similar it's impossible to gossip the other 😂😂 this alur tribe is just so similar Luo also
Yeah, the languages are closer than i imagined. I’m just ashamed that they never teach this in schools and so majority of us grew up completely ignorant of the luo presence in Uganda
@@KPtravels001 I would love to see all groups in one room, I hear there are groups in Nigeria such as the Igbo that may share the same cultural and linguistic similarities?
I am a Jonam who can speak and understand the Jonam, Alur, Acholi and Langi very fluently and though i don't speak Padhola , i understand 70% of what they are saying. I can confirm to you that after watching your videos vs Jonam and that of Vs Alur and to some extent vs Langi, the people people you spoke to did not ably represent their tribes because they were not well versed or did not know their languages very well.
@@KPtravels001 somehow all u could do a group interview or try elderly people they have another version of most of this luo but the interviewed really tried their best considering most people this days have adopted English and it's widely spoken and slowly it's diluting the little we knew of our language
Great initiative! Interview the Lango, Kumam and the Anyuak 😊😊. They "lets join hands" test would have come up with something similar as an alternative. Again great job!
Peter you are doing a wonderful job bringing us closer. My dad’s an Adhola and mom’s a Luo from Kenya. I love learning more about other Luo tribes. I notice most if not all Luos call nine,”Abugwen” apart from Luo of Kenya.
Use "omera"/omin" for brother rather than owadwa. Omera always cut across all Luo clans. Again, use "apwoyo" for thank you. Erokamano is just Kenyan Luo based. On the numbering, Luo language takes 5 as the basis. 6 is just abich+achiel=abichiel, 7 is abich+ariyo=abiryo, 8 can't tell, 9 is abich+ang'wen=abing'wen. The name ochiko for 9 is such a recent development. Most books written in 60s and before it, frequently used "onge achiel" for nine. The name for number 9 has really undergone a lot of transformations.
Thanks for this series. I think some of the words are even more similar just in Kenyan Luo we have many ways of saying something. For example boy you could say wuoyi, thwon, dichwo, chwo, etc. So in some cases we can understand what the other Luos say but they don't always understand us
@@KPtravels001 that's true eg the Siranga people of Ugenya are descended from Rang'a who was the son of Olum who's the progenitor of the Alur. The Nyakwar( Kanyakwar) descendants of Adhola who's the ancestor of the Padhola(K'Adhola). Effectively, the Nyakwar are Padhola.
As an Atwaara/Jo rabuon/Okuuyu i have really enjoyed and continue learning the Luo languages past Kenya. I have also noticed the phonology/intonation of various Luo tribes is affected by the national languages spoken ib the country.. example the congo Alur is inclined to a french/swahili intonation but the Uganda Alur is inclined to the Baganda intonation as the Ugandans speak. Also the Kumam who ends most sentences withBa.. though Luo too his intonatioin is more Ugandan. Correct me if im wrong but this applies to various tribes among Africa..... example the congo alur when he says nyiri abic be mito pi...on the word mito if you listen to the t... its like francais or lingala
Am a Kisii, who understands a bit of Luo. Its very interesting how little Luo has changed from its original form. I think Bantus migrated much earlier from the Congo hence the greater differences in language among the Bantu
Alur/Jonam, Luo of Wau in SS and Padhola are very close with Ke and Tz luo. This could be because during one of the migrations there was a brave luo who matched all the way from Bar el gazel to Kenya through Padhola land with his people without stopping much. It's only that the interview was being done by young/town men but 70yrs or so old men would use the words interchangeably. You hear Jopadhola talk some words are only used by JoUgenya luo clan of Kenya.
shilluk is very similar to Acholi. Even Anyuak is closer to Acoli and other luo languages of northern uganda. In grammar as well as in Vocubulary it is almost completely identical with Acholi. In fact an Acholi could understand Anyuak and make himself understood within a few hours. Shilluk is the most difficult of Luo tongues.
Pliz kp am from migori and want to go and visit some guy from Drc Aluru area next to lake Edward aplace called paluo,how is travelling to congo through uganda?
One of Jaramogi Oginga's biggest dream was always to unite the Luo speakers of Eastern Africa. That was the whole Idea behind #Azimio la Umoja which #Raila has made a campaign slogan now.
Wacha uongo. Azimio la Umoja was a parralel political development to Tanzania Azimio's. It was a national thinking But of course Jaramogi was keen on bringing various branches of Luos together from even before independence. It had nothing to do with Azimio la Umoja that he later coined.
@@thedante7722 bruv seen you all over Kaizo and other channels. Are Luo Men on your mind all day? And they emerging new leaders for the future like me 😂 hopefully I don't fail lol. U probably jealous you just a small kukuyu tribe in only central Kenyan Luo are international 😂
What a great video! > the similarities and differences in the languages are both so interesting to hear and learn about! Are there dialects/versions of Luo in Sudan? If so, that might a neat next comparison video :)
@@KPtravels001 try shilluk(collo); Luo in wau wrongly referred to as Jurchol; The Pari just across the uganda birder who some people in error call Lokoro; also other Luo tribes in Bar el Ghazal. Also in uganda you need to interview the Jonam; the JopaLuo sometimes known as chope; the Jabwor (labwor);Nyakwai; Lango ;and Kumam
@@KPtravels001 interestingly Andu A Nyumba also have the prefix 'Nya' for someone feminine. I really enjoy such content, and while there is a lot coming from Bantu languages, yours is a much needed effort towards studying Nilotic languages
@AN-Nuke M yeah. Though before colonisation there were internal immigration. However, colonization cemented the national borders and this prevented the tribes from re-interacting as they had to assume their newly instilled national identities
Interesting that all Luos outside Kenyan or Tz Luos seem to use the word "abing'wen" for 9. From where did the Kenyan and Tz Luos pick the word "ochiko" from?
In Acholi one would say dano me dog nam or fairly common Jo-ku-nam as differentiated from Jonam. In Lamogi in Acholi we also say DHANDO ME KU NAM/DOG NAM
@@KPtravels001 there are about 3 main subgroups: each subgroup may be divided into other subgroups. 1. Subgroup 1 whose speech shous some common peculiarities of pronouncing words and verbal forms which may be traced as far South as Luo in Kenya and TZ, Jonam, Alur, . It may be divided into 3 groups (a)Lamogi, Pagak, Paboo, Paweel as well as Atyak, Oruba, oyuu and Palaro in uganda western Acholi (b) then from Acwaa river to the border with south Sudan: Palabeek, Padibe, Lokung, Agoro (c) in south Sudan across the border : Paikwara, Agoro(with opfrika, omeeo , imuru, joigara), magwii, Oboo, Pajok, Palwar, Lomorati, Lobone. 2.The group in Central Acholi in uganda which may be regarded as standard as regards language legal customs relative purity of Luo origin and general traditions. It includes Patiko, Alero, Bwobo, Payira, Paicoo, Paibona, Alokolum, Ariia. 3. The third group is closely connected to the Jopaluo(Dhopaluo) in terms of language elements. They include (a) south and south eastern Acholi comprising of Koc, Koro, Puranga, Minakulu( Pamoa,Kamdini), (b)in Eastern Acholi north of river Acwaa: La-bongo, Pajule, Agago ,Acholi-bur, Gem, Nyadyang, Arumo,Okoor, Pader, Kitgum-matidi, Okaka, wol, Lira Amiel,Lira-Paluo, Patongo, Adilang, Paimol, omia-pacwa, Omia-Anyima, Namokoora, Cwaa mucwini ,Oroom, Okool .Okuti
Highly recommend that you acquaint yourself with the study of linguistics, especially the principles of the degree of "mutual intelligibility" among similar languages separated through time and geography, cause that what you are grappling with and trying to unravel !!!
Wucew nenedi tin kuno i Kenya ? Wan i Congo wacew maber manda. Aneno vidéo mwu maeno ewok maber manda man agam Afoyo dit akeca. Ento re ebenen nia ja Alur mi Congo no eng'eyo ngo cuu dhog Alur ne.❤❤❤ Macen kemi ira numéro téléphone peri kokoro manda.
Bonjour !! Hello 👋🏾 Are there any Alur or Luo on this page who live in France or in Europe in general please? --- Y a t il des Alur ou Luo sur cette page qui vivent en France ou en Europe en général svp?
Hello my African brothers. Please put the Luo and Alur words in comparison at the same time for the benefit of others who want to follow along closely.
It's so interesting seeing the various Luo people sharing almost the same things ❤❤am an Alur from Uganda but our brother from Congo was mixing the translation 😂😂😂😂
Hi bro great video.. I speak a Nilo Saharic language which Luo language is a part of.. we Nilo Saharian people have a lot of connections other than languages like morphology we have relatively slim body and round faces small noses compare to Niger congo people and we are darker than any other Africans most importantly we are the most ancient of all Africans so we are ancestors of the mankind.. we physically the most endurance with Khoi-San.. also culturally we connected above genetic sharing so I hope we do research on those things
@@KPtravels001 thanks bro for replaying.. I speak Maba which is apart of Maban subgroup of Nilo Saharic language .. I managed find some similar words between Maba and Luo like in Luo the name for cow is "diang" in my language "deg" ..brother in Luo "mera" in my language "mer" .. my mother in Luo "Minwa" in my language "Minig".. I extracted these 2 words from les than half hour video in Luo what if we sad down and made long comparison.. plus the similarities not only in words but in how sentences are constructed or the syntax also in the tones
@@hayatimofire4852 Maba are situated between Tchad and Sudan so we both Sudanese and Chadian people.... if you check Nilo Saharic people map you will find we share the a Nile and sub Sahara map
Yes that's kinda true but modern Nilo-Saharans are mixed for a great part. Congo, Kenya and Tanzania Luos are more Niger-Congo in genetics than Nilotic due to their constant assimilation of Bantus, you can see it in the phenotype of these two fellows. The Maba are less admixed but they're still something like 20%Niger-Congo(not from Bantu but Ubangian and other Sahelians)
Ochiko in Acholi Luo dialect means he directed himself to... e.g ociko yoo paco means he set himself in the direction of home. Ochiko could also mean he warned
@@KPtravels001 The answer to "Abogwen" is right there. Mathematically 👇 Abich(5) + An'gwen(4) = Abo gi An'gwen (9) Contract the Abich gi/+ An'gwen into "AboGaN'gwen"
@@KPtravels001 Have you visited the Anywak of Ethiopia, they come from Gambela Town in Ethiopia, I think their Luo(Dho Anywak) is the closest to Kenyan Luo, even far closer than DhoPadhola
Brother i really want to learn Luo coz am a Dholuo from Kisumu but i don't know even a single word coz i grew up from Uganda 😭😭 but i can speak some Dhopadola from Tororo
@@KPtravels001 both your words for story "hadizi"? In Arabic "Hadith" is a story and Islam they have the hadiths. In Yoruba they call the devil bilisi, in Arabic it's iblis. There's a lot of connection
I could tell this gentleman was lost abit ,but I used to speak with an alur from congo ,much more similar to the junam you interviewed, and I must admit that alur is closer to luo in Kenya than any other luo tribe in uganda
Yeah, he was little bit of a city boy and I couldn't rule out language barrier too. He speaks French while I speak English and so it was difficult to make clarifications 😊
Alurs djuganda and alurs djupa congo are real brothers, my fathers had blood related cousins as Udangan.... the luos and alurs were the same people too up until different points of dispersals... I'm interested in knowing our names, cultures and traditions,ultimately our origins pre-Sudan tracing all the way to Egypt... As shepherds/pastoral people, Congolese alurs still pay their bride-prices in livestocks, don't eat cassava leave, monkey, etc.
Very big, I get surprised a lot when I do my interviews. Luo is bigger than we think. I do have the responsibility to help every luo in whatever country to know that we are many out here spread out in different countries. Kindly share my videos widely and let every luo get enlightened
@@KPtravels001 let’s be very honest here.. I am an Alur from Nebbi padyere county who has done rec business in Congo n their are no Alurs in ituri .. in i jagobi..
@@janamito3713 my sister I don't mean to be rude but have you done a census in ituri to determine there are no luos in ituri. He says he did the interview in ituri, let's leave it at that.
In Congo it's not easy because they speak French while I speak English....our only common language is swahili but again, Congolese swahili is different.
Alur came as a result of intemarriages between Luo and Lendu and Okebo tribes of the central Sudanic group after the separation of Labongo and Gipiir. Gipiir crossed the nile to the west while Labongo the elder brother remained in the East of the nile
@@thomasmomanyi285 it is actually pojulu. A large part of these were incorporated into Luo-Pari. The Pari Luo subdued several small tribes in The equatorial region of south Sudan but maintained an original Luo language that can be understood by both the Sudanese Luos and East African Luos
That’s Amazing, I wish you could have to meet me and we do contest with us , I’m luo bhar el ghazal Sudan , I’m currently in Kenya soon I will be back to wau
I do not know why people keep making mistakes despite efforts to correct them. In Acholi tyaang is really durra stalk I.e tyaang gaya and niang is sugar cane. By people particularly in the town and urban areas keep making mistakes. You correct them but they d not we to listen. My grand parents and Parents spoke the right vocabulary but these at a I a really shocked by the way youths speak and refuse to learn
Nice video one thing though will you stop using alluding words like Amosi, Erokamano and Oriti? they don't mean what they are used for the just allude to that meaning... that's why they are different with other Luos😊
Amosi is the equivalent of Amoti I.e I greet you. Erokamano is the equivalent of eyo-kong-kumeno which is a farewell expression. Oriti might have originated from riti which means to force someone or put someone under pressure. I am writing from the perspective of Acholi Luo
@@odochokee9856 let me rephrase what I was saying is Kenyan Luo is a mix since people come from different tribes Acholi, Japadhola, Alur etc. So if a word does not match he can use another one instead of insisting that's what we use here coz we use a variety of words to mean the same thing
@@KPtravels001 I mean anyuak people live in Ethiopia but u live in Uganda or Kenya it’s far but when u go back to Kenya go to Ruiru they is a lot of anyuak people over there
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I went to study in Uganda,my roommate was an acholi Ugandan girl,am a Kenyan Luo,a friend of hers came to visit her, the friend started gossiping in acholi,I smiled at them and explain to them what they just said😂 the languages are so similar it's impossible to gossip the other 😂😂 this alur tribe is just so similar Luo also
Yeah, the languages are closer than i imagined. I’m just ashamed that they never teach this in schools and so majority of us grew up completely ignorant of the luo presence in Uganda
😂😂
😂😂😂. That's true. I've interacted with the Alurs of Uganda and I didnt struggle a bit in holding a convo with them.
I think the Padhola Luo language is closest to the Kenyan Luo than the rest
@@silvanskodingo5221 have you heard jonam
All in all, the amount of interest I have for these kind of history is insatiable..
It's all very interesting. The deeper I go the more I realize how big the luo family is. It's like one episode opens doors to other hidden rooms
it's so fascinating!
@@KPtravels001 I would love to see all groups in one room, I hear there are groups in Nigeria such as the Igbo that may share the same cultural and linguistic similarities?
@@billtev9846 after doing all the subtribes I'll try to do them all together
I am a Jonam who can speak and understand the Jonam, Alur, Acholi and Langi very fluently and though i don't speak Padhola , i understand 70% of what they are saying.
I can confirm to you that after watching your videos vs Jonam and that of Vs Alur and to some extent vs Langi, the people people you spoke to did not ably represent their tribes because they were not well versed or did not know their languages very well.
All of them?🤔
@@KPtravels001 somehow all u could do a group interview or try elderly people they have another version of most of this luo but the interviewed really tried their best considering most people this days have adopted English and it's widely spoken and slowly it's diluting the little we knew of our language
Great initiative! Interview the Lango, Kumam and the Anyuak 😊😊. They "lets join hands" test would have come up with something similar as an alternative. Again great job!
I have already interviewed kumam and Lango. Only Anyuak remaining
Peter you are doing a wonderful job bringing us closer. My dad’s an Adhola and mom’s a Luo from Kenya. I love learning more about other Luo tribes. I notice most if not all Luos call nine,”Abugwen” apart from Luo of Kenya.
Thank you. I'm still wondering how we ended up with "ochiko" 😊
Use "omera"/omin" for brother rather than owadwa. Omera always cut across all Luo clans.
Again, use "apwoyo" for thank you. Erokamano is just Kenyan Luo based.
On the numbering, Luo language takes 5 as the basis. 6 is just abich+achiel=abichiel, 7 is abich+ariyo=abiryo, 8 can't tell, 9 is abich+ang'wen=abing'wen. The name ochiko for 9 is such a recent development. Most books written in 60s and before it, frequently used "onge achiel" for nine. The name for number 9 has really undergone a lot of transformations.
Iriek omera
Abidek is 8 used in bar el ghazel and among the shilluk in Sudan.
Aboro is also 8
Thank you and praise is different I believe. #Apwoyo is praise, #erokamano is thank you. In other words, #apwoyo is a commendation. I maybe wrong.
@@odochokee9856 This is it. You people still hold the original words. Meaning the words "abidek" can be used interchangeably with "aboro"?
@@maasaimaasai2895 if apwoyo is praise, then what's "apako"?
Hadithi is 'sigana' and the word 'mbaka' means conversation generally.
This is incredible thanks👍🏿
Thank you so much😊
As a real Luo from Kenya I pray that the Luos spread out in various parts of Africa would one day unite in one country.
maybe it will be better if EAC is actualised
My prayer too. We are alone in Kenya.
Lango from Uganda I totally agree..
Unless yourè also praying that the borders will also be disbanded some day
My prayer... The system was designed to devide and manipulate
Thanks for this series. I think some of the words are even more similar just in Kenyan Luo we have many ways of saying something. For example boy you could say wuoyi, thwon, dichwo, chwo, etc.
So in some cases we can understand what the other Luos say but they don't always understand us
Some claim that luo of Kenya is a combination of small groups from each of the other luo subtribes
@@KPtravels001 that's true eg the Siranga people of Ugenya are descended from Rang'a who was the son of Olum who's the progenitor of the Alur. The Nyakwar( Kanyakwar) descendants of Adhola who's the ancestor of the Padhola(K'Adhola). Effectively, the Nyakwar are Padhola.
@@KPtravels001Luos of Kenya even assimilated non Luos.
As an Atwaara/Jo rabuon/Okuuyu i have really enjoyed and continue learning the Luo languages past Kenya. I have also noticed the phonology/intonation of various Luo tribes is affected by the national languages spoken ib the country.. example the congo Alur is inclined to a french/swahili intonation but the Uganda Alur is inclined to the Baganda intonation as the Ugandans speak. Also the Kumam who ends most sentences withBa.. though Luo too his intonatioin is more Ugandan. Correct me if im wrong but this applies to various tribes among Africa..... example the congo alur when he says nyiri abic be mito pi...on the word mito if you listen to the t... its like francais or lingala
Yeah you are very right. National languages of the various countries have influenced not just the pronunciations but also the alphabet.
you are totally right it has happened to Luo of gambella bin Ethiopia and acholi in ssd
Am a Kisii, who understands a bit of Luo. Its very interesting how little Luo has changed from its original form. I think Bantus migrated much earlier from the Congo hence the greater differences in language among the Bantu
I am Luo from Kenya n so happy to know that we have our brothers n sisters in Congo, then we are many, I me some of our brothers in Ethiopia.
Yeah, it's surprising how many we are 😊
South Sudan too
Alur/Jonam, Luo of Wau in SS and Padhola are very close with Ke and Tz luo. This could be because during one of the migrations there was a brave luo who matched all the way from Bar el gazel to Kenya through Padhola land with his people without stopping much. It's only that the interview was being done by young/town men but 70yrs or so old men would use the words interchangeably. You hear Jopadhola talk some words are only used by JoUgenya luo clan of Kenya.
shilluk is very similar to Acholi. Even Anyuak is closer to Acoli and other luo languages of northern uganda. In grammar as well as in Vocubulary it is almost completely identical with Acholi.
In fact an Acholi could understand Anyuak and make himself understood within a few hours.
Shilluk is the most difficult of Luo tongues.
Anyuak represents the oldest of Luo tongues
@@odochokee9856 Lol ! you should be interviewd on these, you know a lot already
Migration was in groups , waves or clans. Most clans and groups congregated in Acholi and then dispersed from there
Very right 🙏🙏
Good job just keep it up nyathiwa
Erokamano. Please share with friends and family
Please send us tutorials of Alur . Would love to learn. I’m an Alur not so fluent in Alur.
Pliz kp am from migori and want to go and visit some guy from Drc Aluru area next to lake Edward aplace called paluo,how is travelling to congo through uganda?
Were you in Aluara market in DRC, I could enjoy much luo there good .
Unfortunately I did this video in Goma. I would have loved to go to ituri but the war situation in Eastern Congo is very ugly
Great job man..very impressed
Thank you brother. It's a journey of self discovery
One of Jaramogi Oginga's biggest dream was always to unite the Luo speakers of Eastern Africa. That was the whole Idea behind #Azimio la Umoja which #Raila has made a campaign slogan now.
Well, we'll effect that 😊
One day it will happen, 🙂😉
Wacha uongo. Azimio la Umoja was a parralel political development to Tanzania Azimio's. It was a national thinking
But of course Jaramogi was keen on bringing various branches of Luos together from even before independence. It had nothing to do with Azimio la Umoja that he later coined.
Glad he failed, only the Kenyan state and the Kenyan project should be preserved, not the Luo nation.
@@thedante7722 bruv seen you all over Kaizo and other channels. Are Luo Men on your mind all day? And they emerging new leaders for the future like me 😂 hopefully I don't fail lol. U probably jealous you just a small kukuyu tribe in only central Kenyan Luo are international 😂
What a great video! > the similarities and differences in the languages are both so interesting to hear and learn about!
Are there dialects/versions of Luo in Sudan? If so, that might a neat next comparison video :)
Thanks "mundu wa nyumba " 😉😉. I've got some suggestions about luos of South Sudan and so yes, I'll try to go for them
@@KPtravels001 try shilluk(collo); Luo in wau wrongly referred to as Jurchol; The Pari just across the uganda birder who some people in error call Lokoro; also other Luo tribes in Bar el Ghazal.
Also in uganda you need to interview the Jonam; the JopaLuo sometimes known as chope; the Jabwor (labwor);Nyakwai; Lango ;and Kumam
@@KPtravels001 also particularly pay attention Bor-Belanda and compare it closely with Luo of Kenya
@@KPtravels001 interestingly Andu A Nyumba also have the prefix 'Nya' for someone feminine. I really enjoy such content, and while there is a lot coming from Bantu languages, yours is a much needed effort towards studying Nilotic languages
@AN-Nuke M yeah. Though before colonisation there were internal immigration. However, colonization cemented the national borders and this prevented the tribes from re-interacting as they had to assume their newly instilled national identities
In My Language Thok Naath ( Nuer People)
We count numbers as fellow below
1- Kel / 2- Rao /3- Diok / 4- nqwan / 5 - Thiach /6- Bakel / 7- Barao / 8-Badik / 9- bangwan/ 10- Wel / 11-welkel / 12/ welrao /13- weldiok / 14-welngwan / 15-welthiach
All almost the same as us.
Odoch, in Ja Alur koso Acholi?
@@KPtravels001 an abedo Acoli do.
Luo is a collective term, Luo people came from nuer, but Luo was never used before, it has helped keep the identity.
Nuer people of south Sudan living in kenya,their names are phonetically resembling those of luo ,like nya----,besides riek machar can are luo words.
I am a luo, but I don't really know the culture, long story, but I would like to know our cultural dress, I love this keep it up
But do you speak luo?
That guy from Congo doesn't understand Dhu-Alur very well
Interesting that all Luos outside Kenyan or Tz Luos seem to use the word "abing'wen" for 9. From where did the Kenyan and Tz Luos pick the word "ochiko" from?
This is the big question 😂😂
Could "Ochiko" literally mean "towards" 10, considering our number system is pivoting around two key numbers: 5 & 10?
'Towards' makes a lot of sense for me
Am an Alur from Uganda, I have found that almost every words are similar.
I didn't know that we are that much related
Yeah, we're closer than imagined before
Yes brother
In Acholi one would say dano me dog nam or fairly common
Jo-ku-nam as differentiated from Jonam.
In Lamogi in Acholi we also say
DHANDO ME KU NAM/DOG NAM
How many Acholi subgroups exist?
@@KPtravels001 there are about 3 main subgroups: each subgroup may be divided into other subgroups.
1. Subgroup 1 whose speech shous some common peculiarities of pronouncing words and verbal forms which may be traced as far South as Luo in Kenya and TZ, Jonam, Alur, . It may be divided into 3 groups (a)Lamogi, Pagak, Paboo, Paweel as well as Atyak, Oruba, oyuu and Palaro in uganda western Acholi (b) then from Acwaa river to the border with south Sudan: Palabeek, Padibe, Lokung, Agoro (c) in south Sudan across the border : Paikwara, Agoro(with opfrika, omeeo , imuru, joigara), magwii, Oboo, Pajok, Palwar, Lomorati, Lobone.
2.The group in Central Acholi in uganda which may be regarded as standard as regards language legal customs relative purity of Luo origin and general traditions. It includes Patiko, Alero, Bwobo, Payira, Paicoo, Paibona, Alokolum, Ariia.
3. The third group is closely connected to the Jopaluo(Dhopaluo) in terms of language elements. They include (a) south and south eastern Acholi comprising of Koc, Koro, Puranga, Minakulu( Pamoa,Kamdini),
(b)in Eastern Acholi north of river Acwaa: La-bongo, Pajule, Agago ,Acholi-bur, Gem, Nyadyang, Arumo,Okoor, Pader, Kitgum-matidi, Okaka, wol, Lira Amiel,Lira-Paluo, Patongo, Adilang, Paimol, omia-pacwa, Omia-Anyima, Namokoora, Cwaa mucwini ,Oroom, Okool .Okuti
Highly recommend that you acquaint yourself with the study of linguistics, especially the principles of the degree of "mutual intelligibility" among similar languages separated through time and geography, cause that what you are grappling with and trying to unravel !!!
Wucew nenedi tin kuno i Kenya ? Wan i Congo wacew maber manda. Aneno vidéo mwu maeno ewok maber manda man agam Afoyo dit akeca. Ento re ebenen nia ja Alur mi Congo no eng'eyo ngo cuu dhog Alur ne.❤❤❤
Macen kemi ira numéro téléphone peri kokoro manda.
Wacew (wachiew) maber I Kenya Emmanuel. Apwoyo matek
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This is amazing 😍😍😍
Thank you so much Connie
Bonjour !! Hello 👋🏾
Are there any Alur or Luo on this page who live in France or in Europe in general please?
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Y a t il des Alur ou Luo sur cette page qui vivent en France ou en Europe en général svp?
Hello Rose,
Let's hope you'll find some. I'm optimistic
Hello my African brothers. Please put the Luo and Alur words in comparison at the same time for the benefit of others who want to follow along closely.
Say no more😂😂
Give me a maximum of 2 days😉😉
Langi we're quite different from other Luo's. I can see the Alur, Jophadhola and Luo's of Kenya are almost the same though they differ slightly.
Yes, Lango is slightly distant compared to luo of kenya, padhola, Alur etc
@@KPtravels001 But all in all we're one blood 🥰🥰🥰🥰
It's so interesting seeing the various Luo people sharing almost the same things ❤❤am an Alur from Uganda but our brother from Congo was mixing the translation 😂😂😂😂
Because he doesn't speak English. He's a francophone while I'm an anglophone. So we had a language barrier to some extent.
I'm soooo grateful for you jaluo of Kenya with what you are doing
You're welcome. For the love of the luo tribes
I love this series, cant wait for u to go to Ethiopia
Ethiopia is my next destination. I might need real people on the ground to help me when I arrive though
Pretty interesting! I love it.
Thank you so much. Erokamano🙏
@@KPtravels001 Machiegni Nyakwar Ramogi. An bende an Ja Omabei Kaonti.
Good stuff. Ayiego kabisa.👏👏
Erokamano osiepa
You should do acholi Luo of South Sudan as well
I can connect U with many of them are in Uganda
J and R, I already interviewed an Acholi. You can check my second last video
Thanks bro we luo we came from that place
Crocodile= Nyang'. jal, Cho(man), Nyan,nyaku(girl), tuungane(,wawinjara)
Hi bro great video.. I speak a Nilo Saharic language which Luo language is a part of.. we Nilo Saharian people have a lot of connections other than languages like morphology we have relatively slim body and round faces small noses compare to Niger congo people and we are darker than any other Africans most importantly we are the most ancient of all Africans so we are ancestors of the mankind.. we physically the most endurance with Khoi-San.. also culturally we connected above genetic sharing so I hope we do research on those things
Yeah that's true. The morphological description is accurate. Which language do you speak though?
@@KPtravels001 thanks bro for replaying.. I speak Maba which is apart of Maban subgroup of Nilo Saharic language .. I managed find some similar words between Maba and Luo like in Luo the name for cow is "diang" in my language "deg" ..brother in Luo "mera" in my language "mer" .. my mother in Luo "Minwa" in my language "Minig".. I extracted these 2 words from les than half hour video in Luo what if we sad down and made long comparison.. plus the similarities not only in words but in how sentences are constructed or the syntax also in the tones
@@muddathironly123 maba is in which country sir!
@@hayatimofire4852 Maba are situated between Tchad and Sudan so we both Sudanese and Chadian people.... if you check Nilo Saharic people map you will find we share the a Nile and sub Sahara map
Yes that's kinda true but modern Nilo-Saharans are mixed for a great part. Congo, Kenya and Tanzania Luos are more Niger-Congo in genetics than Nilotic due to their constant assimilation of Bantus, you can see it in the phenotype of these two fellows. The Maba are less admixed but they're still something like 20%Niger-Congo(not from Bantu but Ubangian and other Sahelians)
I think Abungwen they combine abich and and angwen
That's right and logical. But, what's the derivation for "ochiko" ?
Where did kenya Luo get "Ochiko for 9" looks like every other Luo/Nilote says Abichiel
Hahahaha I'm looking for an answer to this. The Luo of Kenya are the odd one out...Anyway, I think you meant "abong'wen "
Ochiko in Acholi Luo dialect means he directed himself to... e.g ociko yoo paco means he set himself in the direction of home.
Ochiko could also mean he warned
@@KPtravels001 The answer to "Abogwen" is right there.
Mathematically 👇
Abich(5) + An'gwen(4) = Abo gi An'gwen (9)
Contract the Abich gi/+ An'gwen into "AboGaN'gwen"
@@KPtravels001 Have you visited the Anywak of Ethiopia, they come from Gambela Town in Ethiopia, I think their Luo(Dho Anywak) is the closest to Kenyan Luo, even far closer than DhoPadhola
man this language is pretty close to ours
you should try to compare it with agnua from Ethiopia
I will certainly do this. The clock is ticking
Yes find this person from Ethiopia and compare 🙏
@@KPtravels001 did you do it?
In alur we have 4 deference words and deference people
One laguage
Brother i really want to learn Luo coz am a Dholuo from Kisumu but i don't know even a single word coz i grew up from Uganda 😭😭 but i can speak some Dhopadola from Tororo
If you speak dhopadhola then you're already 93% fluent in luo of Kenya. Watch my recent video and you'll see this
You should get comparison of body parts and Marital relationships i.e. wuoda, yuora, nera etc
Yeah, I already do alot with the family relationships
Hello am Jonathan ANECO alour from Congo but I don’t know my language looking a way of knowing
Hello Josh,
The best way is to go and live in the Alur regions for sometimes. Or better still watch my videos for some vocabulary build up
Where did you grow up from or among which community? Or which languages do you speak?
What is aper acel. The csrd geme ace is 1 or 11
Apar acel is 11. Apar is 10 and Acel is 1
@@KPtravels001 both your words for story "hadizi"? In Arabic "Hadith" is a story and Islam they have the hadiths. In Yoruba they call the devil bilisi, in Arabic it's iblis. There's a lot of connection
Hadithi is sigana. Mbaka is conversation or in Swahili, it’s mazungumzo.
Thank you😄. Sometimes I get mixed up
Goodjob kp...have learned alot.....
Thanks so much. I learned more too from conducting these interviews
But Alur is closer to Acholi than Jaluo. You were just testing similar words.
I find Alur much closer to the luo of Kenya than Acholi.
I’m using luo of Kenya as the point of reference
I could tell this gentleman was lost abit ,but I used to speak with an alur from congo ,much more similar to the junam you interviewed, and I must admit that alur is closer to luo in Kenya than any other luo tribe in uganda
Yeah, he was little bit of a city boy and I couldn't rule out language barrier too. He speaks French while I speak English and so it was difficult to make clarifications 😊
Inapendeza sana! Nataka kuzunguzma kwa Kiluo sasa.
Asante sana. Bila shaka inawezekana
I am also an Alur of Congo. Luo of Kenya and Alur language are very similar. I usually speak to my brothers of Kenya and I understand easily
Yes, Alur (both Okoro and Par Diere), Jonam and Padhola are the closest to luo of Kenya and Tanzania.
Alurs djuganda and alurs djupa congo are real brothers, my fathers had blood related cousins as Udangan.... the luos and alurs were the same people too up until different points of dispersals... I'm interested in knowing our names, cultures and traditions,ultimately our origins pre-Sudan tracing all the way to Egypt... As shepherds/pastoral people, Congolese alurs still pay their bride-prices in livestocks, don't eat cassava leave, monkey, etc.
Yeah so much still need to be unraveled
I pray one day all this river lake nilotes come together under one leader and one country.
I picked Sona Jobateh's sound track
You're sharp😊
Erokamano kuom kelo ja alur ma Congo e video ni Ka.Amor.
You're welcome nyamera 😊
Very interesting ! Alur is very closed to Dha Anywaa compared to Luo of Kenya!
Interesting! Let’s see how Anywaa compares to Luo of Kenya when i get there😄
Here in Boston USA we have luo congo luo Uganda and luo Kenya not forgetting South Sudan people we are one .
Perfect. Luo Achiel [Acel]
I will be happy one day we're together and one leader thank kpeter for that job
Come to Magwi county South Sudan, you will get real Acholi with all Southern Luo Ancient.
Thanks for the suggestion Patrick. I will go to Gambella, Ethiopia and then come to South Sudan
Im an Alur but interestingly They both sound the same❤️
Lembe Ber makes umirs
Aaron, are you Alur ja par diere or Jonam?
Wow, a lot of similarities in dialog
But what is lajok
This is so cool!
Thank you so much 😘
So, Luo is such a large community
Yeah just in Uganda and Kenya you count over 13 million alone.
Very big, I get surprised a lot when I do my interviews. Luo is bigger than we think. I do have the responsibility to help every luo in whatever country to know that we are many out here spread out in different countries. Kindly share my videos widely and let every luo get enlightened
More like A Nation than just Community...
Interesting
This is Acholi from south Sudan. So crocodile is nyang then girl is anyaka then boy is awobi.
Interesting video. In Kano we call sugarcane niang.
I think the luo of Kenya use both "niang &tiang" interchangeably
I love these comparisons ♥️♥️
With the Congolese it was abit difficult because of language barrier. We had no common language 😊
Hello am from south African🇿🇦🇿🇦 (Venda tribe) our history start from congo also i heard the are venda people who speak Luo language in Kenya
Greetings from Kenya. Could you give me a source for your information about the Venda in Kenya?
Hapo kwa hadithi nitasema sigana not mbaka. Mbaka is more of a conversation. Nice video
Ooh yeah, that's right. I got mixed up 😊
I think Alur and Jonam are the same
Yes and a No. Jonam, want to identify independently. They recently swore in their KER/ Kwar Jonam.
Great, great, am a lugbara am just totally impressed
Thank you so much. Please share my channel with your friends and family. I want to reach as many luos as possible
Can you do the Luo of Ethiopia 🇪🇹?
Ofcourse😉😉. I have to Interview every single luo subtribe in this planet
Anywaa or Anyuak
Am from Congo 🇨🇩 I didn't know there a language like this, wow, ituri,am from sud-kivu
Oooh yeah, I never imagined luo being present in Congo
I like sud-kivu. I was in Bukavu in July this year
@@KPtravels001 amazing
Can you look for Jonam of Congo?
I got them already
Ewunu that guy is not from Congo he is an Alur from Erusi in Nebbi
If he was from Nebbi Uganda he could atleast speak English 😂. He's from Ituri, Congo
@@KPtravels001 let’s be very honest here.. I am an Alur from Nebbi padyere county who has done rec business in Congo n their are no Alurs in ituri .. in i jagobi..
@@janamito3713 my sister I don't mean to be rude but have you done a census in ituri to determine there are no luos in ituri. He says he did the interview in ituri, let's leave it at that.
You need to choosing on people that can understand well what you are trying to explain. That's the only area you are to consider
In Congo it's not easy because they speak French while I speak English....our only common language is swahili but again, Congolese swahili is different.
Or have a third person to help
Miwa is niang not tiang
Now that you mentioned it I clearly see the difference 😀
They have much Lugwara and alendu mixed in their language.
Alur came as a result of intemarriages between Luo and Lendu and Okebo tribes of the central Sudanic group after the separation of Labongo and Gipiir. Gipiir crossed the nile to the west while Labongo the elder brother remained in the East of the nile
Omera there's also anyuak , fujulu and nyangwar s.sudan. am kisii Bantu but I know some luo nice time.
Here comes the historian. Odoch, I love your deep knowledge of Luo history
Thomas, how do you know so much about luo omonto minto?😊
@@thomasmomanyi285 it is actually pojulu. A large part of these were incorporated into Luo-Pari. The Pari Luo subdued several small tribes in The equatorial region of south Sudan but maintained an original Luo language that can be understood by both the Sudanese Luos and East African Luos
Hadithi en sigana omera woud dala
Remind them even if they know. That’s the Bible🤣. But seriously, I got confused between “a story” and a “a conversation”. Sigana vs mbaka😅
That’s Amazing, I wish you could have to meet me and we do contest with us , I’m luo bhar el ghazal Sudan , I’m currently in Kenya soon I will be back to wau
Hello,
I wish we could have but I am out of Kenya already 😭. We might be lucky next time
Watch our TH-cam channel Joluo of bhar el ghazal wau , send me your contact for more information
Whaou i like ❤
Thank you. Help me share widely.
Amazing
Thank you Wilsonk
"Tiang'" is not dholuo for sugarcane. Tiang' is sorghum stalk. Sugarcane is NIANG' or THIANG' in parts of Siaya.
In South Nyanza, they are used interchangeably
@@KPtravels001 by the young. I also have a foothold in South Nyanza.
I do not know why people keep making mistakes despite efforts to correct them.
In Acholi tyaang is really durra stalk I.e tyaang gaya and niang is sugar cane. By people particularly in the town and urban areas keep making mistakes. You correct them but they d not we to listen. My grand parents and Parents spoke the right vocabulary but these at a I a really shocked by the way youths speak and refuse to learn
@@odochokee9856 people are often lazy and don't want to be bothered to change the bad habits they're used to.
@@aduwopbarack1050 yet when it is a language like English or kiswahili people are quick to change their habits
Bro hadithi ni sigana
And what's the difference between "sigana" and "mbaka" ?
"Mbaka" is a conversation. "Sigana" is a tale or hadithi in Swahili
Nice video one thing though will you stop using alluding words like Amosi, Erokamano and Oriti? they don't mean what they are used for the just allude to that meaning... that's why they are different with other Luos😊
What should I use instead?
Amosi is the equivalent of Amoti I.e I greet you.
Erokamano is the equivalent of eyo-kong-kumeno which is a farewell expression.
Oriti might have originated from riti which means to force someone or put someone under pressure.
I am writing from the perspective of Acholi Luo
@@odochokee9856 oriti ="let him/her wait/protect you". The him in this case is God. So oriti is basically "Let him [God] protect you "
@@odochokee9856 let me rephrase what I was saying is Kenyan Luo is a mix since people come from different tribes Acholi, Japadhola, Alur etc. So if a word does not match he can use another one instead of insisting that's what we use here coz we use a variety of words to mean the same thing
@@ms.j970 it was clans not tribes. There were several clans which converged in Acholi land prior to dispersing
You are doing a great job but try to get people that are reasonably knowledgeable in the languages so that we get credible data. But keep it.
Thank you. Going to the villages in Congo was not easy because there's war going on. Mostly the rebels are in control of the villages in Congo
Brother u should interview anyuak people
Alur is similar to anyuak
Just give me the location and I'll hunt them down 😉
@@KPtravels001
I mean anyuak people live in Ethiopia
but u live in Uganda or Kenya it’s far
but when u go back to Kenya go to Ruiru
they is a lot of anyuak people over there
@@Jmookey100x thank you. I always want to tap the river at the source 😉. So I'll look for them in Ethiopia
@@Jmookey100x For real! The place is dominated by kikuyu.
@@KPtravels001 they live in gambella
Pse go to Nigeria also
If I get satisfactory info about existence of luos there then I'm definitely going
It's beautiful similarities, but next time look for a typical from home not from town
Thanks for this. the only hindrance is that there's a possibility of a language barrier as I go deeper into the villages
Alur sounded identical to Acholi
Alur Okoro to be precise.
He doesn't know Kiswahili, how can he say things correctly in Alur
He understands a different dialect of swahili. Congolese swahili is different from the Kenyan swahili
Jonam is actually an alur split dialect in uganda
I think I would love to have a talk with Jonam too
@@KPtravels001 Jonam speak same dialect with Alur. There is also a clan among Adhola or Jopadhola in Tororo Uganda.
Visit also Alendu pple.
Geographically speaking, where are the Alendu?
@@KPtravels001 next door to Alur in Congo but They speak a different language of the central sudanic group related to madi and Lugbara of uganda