Thanks so much for pointing that out Felix. Sometimes it's difficult to getting all the spellings correct but I appreciate when people correct me because it improves on the quality of the content
That's a first for me. Wanguwa, grandmother?! Wang'wa in Kenyan means our eyes. To spell it right, you must put an apostrophe between g and w. Otherwise it would be read diffently.
I am really enjoying this series seriously!!!just discovered your channel today and watched quite alot of interviews,we Luos have so much in common from wherever we are.
@@KPtravels001I was actually searching vigorous Luo praise music,search results yielded some Kenyan gospel plus some Acholi praise Music after which I saw one of your videos comparing Acholi and Kenyan Luo Languages.
hallo peter, good work. on a serious note "jal" in KE/TZ dholuo refers to a mature male person in N nyanza, but the same word is "nyien: in S Nyanza. I once had an acholi friend here in NRB whom i used to greet "Jal aneni" and he told me it means the same in his dialect.
Nyien is universal to Kenyan Luo not just South Nyanza. JAL too though this tends to be used in particular instances eg "JALNI" meaning this person or this man or this guy.
I have discovered why almost everyone is not comfortable with a luo leading Kenya as president, the fear in people like Museveni is the influence Luo nation wield in the great lake region and Africa at large, this tribe is found everywhere from Morocco to Tanzania mostly in Sahara and sub Saharan Africa, their unity in language can influence real development in Africa,as we speak Luo language can be a language of choice if well nurtured since it's spoken in most African countries than Swahili,Afrikana,Hausa and any other languages in Africa
The oppression won't last forever,Luo nation is coming and its unstoppable,the prophecy has already been fulfilled and has come to pass,just be calm and watchful during this interesting times
I am a Luo Kenya and I am very happy to hear from Luo roots in Uganda and that we speak the same language particularly Jokanyanam, Padhola whom you have interviewed.( Chinga en lueta even in Luo Kenya), try to extend up to S.Sudan and even Mara province ( sirati) in TZ. So that we should know where all our kins ere. Thank you for taking your time to follow Luo ROOTS. Please extend up to Egypt in Africa.
Thank you Odalo. Following up on the luo roots is among the best things I ever did. I'm traveling from Addis Ababa today to Gambella to Interview the Anywaa (luo of Ethiopia). After that, South Sudan should be next
Yes bro, Luo was infact born in Egypt and it was among the languages spoken by the Pharaoh's. Luos were great Mathematicians then and they lived with cushites too in Egypt. They took part in building of the Pyramids. Cairo was a luo word to mean Place of smoke, 'Kar iro'. that was over 5000 years ago. Sounds interesting
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@@KPtravels001 You can get copy rights. Just look for them and explain to them what you are doing. Your work is great and most will be happy to support.
I’m a Lango boy from Lira , you just made my night with this series of interviews and interactions. The reason those people are laughing is that ‘ nyare/ nyara ‘ can also refer to the private part of a lady
The Alur are common people along the shores of Lake Victoria. I think we, the Kenyan Luo, speak similarly only that they tend to be a bit fast in pronunciation. The Alur language is easily understandable. Thanks for this
@@KPtravels001 In proper context you would understand why they call elderly people "dhano motegno" Tegno is strong but it also means mature. Layers of meaning.
You should go to Ethiopia in Gambella and test the language too because it’s the same with Lou in Kenya their Call Anywaa people and I’m one of them ❤❤
Highly recommend that you acquaint yourself with the study of linguistics, especially the principles of the degree of "mutual intelligibility" among similar languages separated through time and geography, cause that what you are trying to unravel !!!
There aren't three tribes of Alur 😅 There are 3 "county" divisions in Uganda. Okoro as a region grouped together most of the chiefdoms up in the mountains and named the region after Okoro, the biggest chiefdom of the Alur. Padiere means those in the middle. That region has all the chiefdoms in between Okoro and Jonam. Jonam of course means those of the River and groups the chiefdoms at the edge of the Nile and lake Albert also known as nam bonyu. Some chiefdoms in padiere were even actually part of Okoro chiefdom. The Jonam who are under ragem chiefdom tend to exclude themselves from us but it's fine. We know they're part of us and argue but we love them all the same. There are other chiefdoms like Panyimur that are under Jonam region but not under ragem. But otherwise all Alur are a single people but under different clans. The three regions don't even apply to the Alur in Congo. So Okoro, padiere and Jonam are simply counties or "districts" created during the colonial period but aren't subtribes of the Alur. Hopefully this helps. Although the way we speak does differ a bit. We can usually tell where someone is from from the way he or she pronounces the words
@@KPtravels001 I prefer considering it different chiefdoms with slightly varied accents 😂 But Dhonam/Jonam dialect is an actual dialect that slightly differs from the rest of us. Perhaps it's because they're closer to our Acoli siblings across the Nile. The other actual dialect would be that spoken by the Jukoth Alur in DRC as well. It differs a little bit from our usual Alur. But the rest of the tribe has basically the same thing with a simple change in accents in my opinion 😅
@@KPtravels001 I must find time and visit you guys and those in Tz as well 😅 My sister enjoyed her time in Kisumu some years back. Our dialects are too close for me not to learn. But right now mission is on Acoli and kiswahili 😅
@@KPtravels001 Jonam tribe originated during the separation of Gipiir and Labongo. There was another younger brother of the two who attempted to mediate but when this failed he oversaw the separation and was neutral. The axe of separation was thrown into the nile at packwach with a curse. According to the legend the Alur and Acholi should not marry each other.
I think peter you are not getting it right, in Alego 'Ngama otegno' can also mean somebody mature or advanced in age. Jal can also mean boy, 'Wuoi' is also used. In Ugenya and Alego I think we have more words that you do not use in the South
Yes, Daniel, I think that's right. Some words that pass me are very much common in Central Nyanza. That's why I want as many luos on board as possible. It's a chance to learn more luo words😊
@@KPtravels001 in Acoli the following are used for a mature or one of advanced age: Ngat ma otego / ngat otego(contracted) or ngat ma otegoni / otegono etc. There is also Nyer ma otegoni .meaning a mature man but nyer is a disrespectful term meaning man or fellow
Jal in acholi is guy but and its used more by buddies like jal kop ango, can be used by both sex, I also think the use of wang wa to reffer to grandma in padyer ,is still in the context of eye, because elders have seen days before us, and they are advisers in the context of seeing better ,so that word wang wa comes in that context
@@KPtravels001 Jal is for a man not a female Please note common mistakes in Luo. Women who know the language sometimes use jonga. E.g jongana: I.e my female friend .used only among females just as Jal is mainly used between males
Wonderful programme. Dedicating to you some old dholuo music: Opoto Suleman, Joyce Adhiambo, Rose Auma, Jeremire Atieno, Saye Ber mo, Alfred Amach and others.
@@KPtravels001 Please listen to them, they were done by old kenyan bands like Kawere boys band etc. You can even invest in translating them. We enjoyed that music here in Uganda 🇺🇬 and 🇰🇪.
UGENYA /ALEGO LUO 1000- Gana 100- Piero apar achiel 200- Piero apar Ariyo. Year 2022- gana ariyo gi Piero ariyo gariyo. 1999- Gana achiel Piero apar ochiko gi Pierochiko gochiko. Charles Musewe Nakuru
The guys didn't know alur well there Wang...as eye and wanguwa as grant mother but our eyes is wangwa but our grant mother is wanguwa the pronouciation is completely different
Ooh really? I believe his Alur is very good. He is from Nebbi district, Northern Uganda. Maybe he just got mixed up for a second 😀. Cameras can be intimidating 😂
Hello there,, l would really prefer those early childhood teachers, they're many in those areas you're touring, atleast they're trained professionals in language
Thank you so much. I know you are right, but accessing them can be difficult unless I have to stay in the place for more than 1 week in order to hunt them down
How many know the 'bi' in Nairobi is the Maasai version of 'pi', thus the place of cool waters; en kare nyaro pi ? If this intrigues you, wait till i give the meaning of Kar aora Tuom, or Khartoum as we know it nowadays.
originally there was never a bed (the furniture) among the luo, but when it did, the equivalent was some raised something thus it was just referred to as ngango. but as it were, the earliest reference would have been pien, which loosely translates to skin, and that is also because animal skins were mostly used as bedding
Yes..! [omin] K'Ogot [Peter].. following closely I'm.. Contractions (in counting).. [note: K= Kenya] Example: Luo (K).. 11.. apar-gi-achiel.. (can it be "apar-ki-achiel"..?) Acoli/Acholi, Alur, Jonam.. (11) [contracted is] apar-acel.. in full is "apar-wi'e-acel".. or "apar-ki- acel".. the 'wi'e'/'ki' is dropped in 'contractions'.. It is the same all through with 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19... simply adding the 2.. 3.. 4.. and so on.. In Acoli letter 'c' is pronounced 'ch'.. so 'acel' is pronounced 'achel'.. It's great fun.. listening to and, at the same time, learning the similarities and differences.. Thank you.. erokamano.. OAO
@@KPtravels001 Yes, now I know.. 'gi' (Luo (K)) is 'ki' (Luos (Ug)).. but 'gi' is used to mean "to/for/of them" in contractions.. example "won/min'gi" is "their father/mother" Erokamano...
Otanda for Kenyan luo is borrowed from Swahili while the alur word for bed is also borrowed from some other language there in Uganda possibly Buganda....
Keta Nelson, it's difficult to tell which luo version is the best because to each their own. Each dialect will claim that they are the best version so I try to just compare without grading 😂
@@KPtravels001 but ours sounds clear than theirs so ours should be the best.......though them too,they must say that theirs is the best one to use but "aisulu"..... "Ng'ato kang'ato pako mana ruadhee"🐂🐂🐂
@@KPtravels001 like I said each clan had its own Luo variant and remember before Bahrel ghazel The Luo people's were living alongside the Nuer in Kodorfan region. Many nuer people were also incorporated into Luo
Oddly, Alur variants seem to be closest to Kenyan Luo, followed by Padhola. IT would be nice to have a linguist explain how the geographically closer Acholi and Langi are actually Linguistically more distant.
Yeah, initially I thought padhola was the closest to luo to luo of Kenya due geographical closeness but that was before talking to jonam in Pakwach Northern Uganda
Lango borrowed lot or were influenced by Acholi Kumam as well were influenced by Acholi. There are 3 main dialects of Acholi: 1. Labwor 2.Dhopaluo 3.Nyakwai
There are pronunciations in Acholi which are not found in other Luo except Anyuak. For example K in between vowels in pronounce from the throat. 'ngo' in between vowels is also pronounced from the throat . This applies also to sentences. 'R' at the end of words which are vowels is voiceless unless a vowel follows. This applies to shilluk (collo) as wel
Haha#4:40 indeed there is another meaning of Nyaara in Luo Anywaa if the two aa's in the middle are not stressed properly. While Nyaara means "my daughter", Nyara means "my crotch"
Ng'amotegno is actually an older person in Kenyan luo. Ng'amatek or ng'amaretego is a strong person. Ng'amaduong' is a big person. Jodongo are older people, and jaduong' is one olde person..
@@KPtravels001 I do not know about how fluent you are, but ng'amotegno is definitely not the same as ng'amatek. One is an old person while the other is a strong person. This difference is likely not even regional. Penj oremi, omera. 😀
I'm aware of this terminology but I've only heard being used to refer to seasons. More like a dry season [luos of Kenya should feel free to correct me]
@@KPtravels001 that's also correct. One word may mean tons of things eg "Lando" is a brownish red female whether human or animal. It may also mean to broadcast or spread.
@@babyboasty6033 you must be very young and little exposed as far as the dholuo is concerned. Lando has been in use, should I say forever, I was born seventy years ago and found my elders using it.
Remember too, nilotes have been in close proximity with the Arabs for millenia. Inter marriages took place even before the Luo of Kenya reached their current homeland. A section of the Luo, the Jopaluo of Khartoum are today more or less Arabs.
Luos of Kenya don't say miachiel. We say Pier apar achiel. Mia is borrowed from Kiswahili. For example 1980 is- Gana achiel pier apar ochiko gi pier aboro
Peter tem ipenjnae comparison mag gik machal kama Names of Domestic animals Names of wild animals On ENVIRONMENT ask Forest Hills and mountains Valleys Rivers/streams/wells Lakes Rain Drought Wind Hail(storms) Hot Cold Names of common fruits Names of various birds Names of various fish Names of various birds
Hahahaha no, they're luo speakers. This was in Pakwach, Northern Uganda which is exclusively a luo region. There's another meaning to "nyara" which is somehow sexual and naughty 😊. And that explains the giggles
@@KPtravels001 for some of us, definitely. Alur pronunciation greatly depends on where we grow up. So wang'uwa will have the "u" sound heard, but some who speak fast may have it silenced and it won't be heard. But I could be mistaken. If anyone else here pronounces it different I'd appreciate their input.
@@owagarodgers5554 I'd call that modern Luo used by the young. Quite ungrammatical. Dani in grammatical Luo is strictly " your grandma" ie 2nd person singular. Today, the young use it to mean DAYO ie grandma generally and not specific to any person.
That was pretty much interesting. Ugandan Luos however don't come across as confident as their Kenyan brothers and this is visibly attributable to disparity in literacy levels. Ugandan Luos use a kind of pidgin English learnt through osmosis that doesn't conform to the principles of grammar. There's also a great deal of Buganda speech intonation influence in their speech patterns.
![LUO [of Kenya] vs KUMAM [of Uganda]: THE MOST DISTANT LUO TRIBE OF ALL](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fpn7YdJLw8U/mqdefault.jpg)
![Luo [of Kenya] vs Anywaa [of Ethiopia]: Language Comparison](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VeCScJb4f-I/mqdefault.jpg)
Have been following this program since and I really enjoy it so much ,but wanguwa is our grandma and wangwa without" u" is our eyes
Thanks so much for pointing that out Felix. Sometimes it's difficult to getting all the spellings correct but I appreciate when people correct me because it improves on the quality of the content
I'll pin your comment for others to see the correction. Thanks so much 🙏
I hadn't even seen this comment before commenting mine 😅
Afoyo makwe omira 😂
Foc ni kptravels bende. You're doing a great job for all of us Luo people
@@eliazali_4200 I highly appreciate
That's a first for me. Wanguwa, grandmother?! Wang'wa in Kenyan means our eyes. To spell it right, you must put an apostrophe between g and w. Otherwise it would be read diffently.
Thanks for the program. Continue with the good work you're doing. Apwoyo matek.
Thanks so much omera. Kindly share my videos with your friends and family. I need more luos here
I am really enjoying this series seriously!!!just discovered your channel today and watched quite alot of interviews,we Luos have so much in common from wherever we are.
Yeah the big luo nation. Bigger than we imagined. Btw, how did you discover my channel?
Kindly help me share with your friends and family. I want as many luos as possible
@@KPtravels001I was actually searching vigorous Luo praise music,search results yielded some Kenyan gospel plus some Acholi praise Music after which I saw one of your videos comparing Acholi and Kenyan Luo Languages.
hallo peter, good work. on a serious note "jal" in KE/TZ dholuo refers to a mature male person in N nyanza, but the same word is "nyien: in S Nyanza. I once had an acholi friend here in NRB whom i used to greet "Jal aneni" and he told me it means the same in his dialect.
Jal is also used in South Nyanza for the same meaning. I think the 2 words are used interchangeably.
@@KPtravels001 the original ancient word in the Luo language for a big man/elder was Jal-dhwong and for a child was Nywal-tin.
Nyien is universal to Kenyan Luo not just South Nyanza. JAL too though this tends to be used in particular instances eg "JALNI" meaning this person or this man or this guy.
I really appreciate these videos thank you so much 👍🏿
You're welcome Michelle 😊
I love your program brother
You are welcome. I appreciate so much. Kiondly share my channel with friends and family. I want to reach out to as many luos as possible
Am loving this channel am learning Luo that I didn't 🤣,,thanks KP for sharing I'll share u at my community tab
I'm happy to know that I'm having impacts on people's lives😉
Another gem 👏. Thanks for bringing the great Luo people together. That conversation was smooth good job to both of you.
Thanks so much. I try to the extent I can to show how close we're despite the geographical distances
I have discovered why almost everyone is not comfortable with a luo leading Kenya as president, the fear in people like Museveni is the influence Luo nation wield in the great lake region and Africa at large, this tribe is found everywhere from Morocco to Tanzania mostly in Sahara and sub Saharan Africa, their unity in language can influence real development in Africa,as we speak Luo language can be a language of choice if well nurtured since it's spoken in most African countries than Swahili,Afrikana,Hausa and any other languages in Africa
The oppression won't last forever,Luo nation is coming and its unstoppable,the prophecy has already been fulfilled and has come to pass,just be calm and watchful during this interesting times
That's why we have names like Obasanjo, Ojuku, Atiku in Nigeria 🇳🇬.
Very true, right observation
@@Dr.lukwagoAsuman Thoes people are not luo stop with this bullshit. We are even closer to the fulani and kunari
@@babyboasty6033 O.K they are former Luos.
Well done 👍
Thank you! Cheers! Please share my channel with friends and family
I am a Luo Kenya and I am very happy to hear from Luo roots in Uganda and that we speak the same language particularly Jokanyanam, Padhola whom you have interviewed.( Chinga en lueta even in Luo Kenya), try to extend up to S.Sudan and even Mara province ( sirati) in TZ. So that we should know where all our kins ere. Thank you for taking your time to follow Luo ROOTS. Please extend up to Egypt in Africa.
Thank you Odalo. Following up on the luo roots is among the best things I ever did. I'm traveling from Addis Ababa today to Gambella to Interview the Anywaa (luo of Ethiopia). After that, South Sudan should be next
Yes bro, Luo was infact born in Egypt and it was among the languages spoken by the Pharaoh's. Luos were great Mathematicians then and they lived with cushites too in Egypt. They took part in building of the Pyramids. Cairo was a luo word to mean Place of smoke, 'Kar iro'. that was over 5000 years ago. Sounds interesting
These postings are providing a useful learning tool not only to the LWO SPEAKING Communities but to a much more broader viewing audience... KUDOS MIIINGI SAAANA to the Creator
Thank you so much. I try my best to reconnect the bonds
Good stuff. Keep it up! But just a small thing: we have a lot of luo music. Why use amapiano?
Thank you so much. Note that, I don't have a copyright permission to use the luo songs
Kindly share my videos with your friends and family. I want more luos here
@@KPtravels001 You can get copy rights. Just look for them and explain to them what you are doing. Your work is great and most will be happy to support.
@@awitidickens I'll try to. I'm trying to get their contact information
Wonderful! I had been thinking of doing a similar thing. Congrats.
You can still do it but focus on sentence construction;idiomatic expressions and conversation analysis.
Love your shows
Thank you so much Min Val
Really enjoyed👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏♥️♥️God bless u Peter🙌🏻
Hallelujah Sophie. Thanks so much 🙏
@@KPtravels001 u r welcome 🤗 much blessings ever😁
What is your real name?
@@odochokee9856 Sophie Akot
I’m a Lango boy from Lira , you just made my night with this series of interviews and interactions. The reason those people are laughing is that ‘ nyare/ nyara ‘ can also refer to the private part of a lady
Hahahaha naughty luos😉😉
Yes iwacho adier example in a statement... omera tiki oyugno ka nyar Ja kech 😅😅😂
Yeah,I thought the of the same in other words
Nyara also in luo Kenya can refer to a private part of a lady
I knew it 😆😅😂
Have heard this in Kenya too.
Means a female private part.
Great work brother
Thank you so much 😀. Please share widely
bed in alur okoro is called "pem"
The Alur are common people along the shores of Lake Victoria. I think we, the Kenyan Luo, speak similarly only that they tend to be a bit fast in pronunciation. The Alur language is easily understandable. Thanks for this
Yeah, the Alur are generally very close to the luo of Kenya but Jonam is the closest I ever experienced 😀
Lake Victoria òr lake Albert? It is lake Albert (Onek-bonyo)
@@odochokee9856 we the alurs are fishermen that why you will find us almost at every shores of the lakes within and fish is our number one food
@@KPtravels001 In proper context you would understand why they call elderly people "dhano motegno" Tegno is strong but it also means mature. Layers of meaning.
Watching you bro
Thank you bro.
Thanks very much for this forum. It is killing 2 birds with one stone. It has become like an educational and unity centre
Thanks for your kind words. I'm happy about it. I'm happy to see luos from different countries coming together.
Our eyes and our grandmother, in Alur it depends on the conversation same pronouciations but different meaning
Jomotegdo also mean older people. Otieno osetegno. It's doesn't really mean Otieno is strong but rather he has come out of age.
Oooh that's a good illustration 😀. I agree with you 👏
You should go to Ethiopia in Gambella and test the language too because it’s the same with Lou in Kenya their Call Anywaa people and I’m one of them ❤❤
Thank you. Gambella is my next destination. Please share my videos with more people from Gambella. I'll come there soon
Anyuak
N'gama otegno can also mean an older person in Luo Kenya. Maduon'g also has two meanings.
Maduon'g- Big
Aged/older
Tegno- Strong
Aged/elderly
Yes, this is true
Highly recommend that you acquaint yourself with the study of linguistics, especially the principles of the degree of "mutual intelligibility" among similar languages separated through time and geography, cause that what you are trying to unravel !!!
Our grandmother=Wangumwa
Our eyes =Wangwa
Thanks for the clarification. It was confusing
Omera from Kenya l love that move to reunite the luo families in the difference localities
Thanks so much. I'm grateful. I'm happy to playing this role. I value identities so much
I love to follow your steps
How Do become part of this? Iwacho dholuo mochwiny kamili.
Who among the two😂😂?
"Kamili" is swahili though 😉😉
Hehe 🤣🤣🤣mochwiny 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also in dhopadhola bed is kitanda
Similar to luo of Kenya but the word is obviously borrowed from Swahili.
Interesting that there is the 'V' constant in Alur dialect. "Kavuto = Bed"
You're so keen
@@KPtravels001 very!😅. It's an interesting series. Keep on with the good work.
God bless the Luo nation
Hallelujah 🙏
There aren't three tribes of Alur 😅
There are 3 "county" divisions in Uganda. Okoro as a region grouped together most of the chiefdoms up in the mountains and named the region after Okoro, the biggest chiefdom of the Alur. Padiere means those in the middle. That region has all the chiefdoms in between Okoro and Jonam. Jonam of course means those of the River and groups the chiefdoms at the edge of the Nile and lake Albert also known as nam bonyu. Some chiefdoms in padiere were even actually part of Okoro chiefdom. The Jonam who are under ragem chiefdom tend to exclude themselves from us but it's fine. We know they're part of us and argue but we love them all the same. There are other chiefdoms like Panyimur that are under Jonam region but not under ragem. But otherwise all Alur are a single people but under different clans. The three regions don't even apply to the Alur in Congo. So Okoro, padiere and Jonam are simply counties or "districts" created during the colonial period but aren't subtribes of the Alur. Hopefully this helps.
Although the way we speak does differ a bit. We can usually tell where someone is from from the way he or she pronounces the words
Hahahaha let's call them subtribes? Maybe dialects?😂😂
@@KPtravels001 I prefer considering it different chiefdoms with slightly varied accents 😂
But Dhonam/Jonam dialect is an actual dialect that slightly differs from the rest of us. Perhaps it's because they're closer to our Acoli siblings across the Nile. The other actual dialect would be that spoken by the Jukoth Alur in DRC as well. It differs a little bit from our usual Alur. But the rest of the tribe has basically the same thing with a simple change in accents in my opinion 😅
@@eliazali_4200 I agree with you. We have same cases among the luo of Kenya
@@KPtravels001 I must find time and visit you guys and those in Tz as well 😅
My sister enjoyed her time in Kisumu some years back. Our dialects are too close for me not to learn. But right now mission is on Acoli and kiswahili 😅
@@KPtravels001 Jonam tribe originated during the separation of Gipiir and Labongo. There was another younger brother of the two who attempted to mediate but when this failed he oversaw the separation and was neutral. The axe of separation was thrown into the nile at packwach with a curse.
According to the legend the Alur and Acholi should not marry each other.
Omera bana, Peana microphone 🎤 na adabu bwanaa😂😂😂, nitashinda nikikukimbusha mpaka upeane vizuri😉
hahaha I’ll be nice next time. I’ll try to be nice when I give out the microphone😂😂
I think peter you are not getting it right, in Alego 'Ngama otegno' can also mean somebody mature or advanced in age. Jal can also mean boy, 'Wuoi' is also used. In Ugenya and Alego I think we have more words that you do not use in the South
Yes, Daniel, I think that's right. Some words that pass me are very much common in Central Nyanza. That's why I want as many luos on board as possible. It's a chance to learn more luo words😊
@@KPtravels001 in Acoli the following are used for a mature or one of advanced age:
Ngat ma otego / ngat otego(contracted) or ngat ma otegoni / otegono etc.
There is also
Nyer ma otegoni .meaning a mature man but nyer is a disrespectful term meaning man or fellow
I'm really enjoying this show
I'm happy you are. I'm happy to be involved in digging out the luo history.
Luo of Ugenya Kenya have a direct link to the Alur of Uganda, while Alego are align to the acholi.
What of the luo of South Nyanza?
@@KPtravels001 Am not sure about it, but they were the first group to arrive in Kenya, Joka Jok.
@@edgararony6023 well, let's hope someone will join the missing dots
@@edgararony6023 Jo ka jok were from Acholi I.e Jo-Pajok
Jal in acholi is guy but and its used more by buddies like jal kop ango, can be used by both sex, I also think the use of wang wa to reffer to grandma in padyer ,is still in the context of eye, because elders have seen days before us, and they are advisers in the context of seeing better ,so that word wang wa comes in that context
Well, I'm not in a position to credit or discredit your allegations on "wang wa" .Let Alur verify 😊
@@KPtravels001 Jal is for a man not a female Please note common mistakes in Luo. Women who know the language sometimes use jonga. E.g jongana: I.e my female friend .used only among females just as Jal is mainly used between males
To us lango Oro is a dry season only but a year is mwaka
If u r asking for someone's age
Mwaka ni tye adi? Iromo mwaka adi?
I would love to understand how the swahili word "mwaka" got into lango
@@KPtravels001 haha 😂😂 it's definitely not me explaining that
We desperately need to unite and draft our future as one people now than later and make our ancestors proud.big love from jaluo from kenya
Erokamano. A journey of a thousand miles has started 👏
Need to work on a comprehensive Luo dictionary.
Wonderful programme. Dedicating to you some old dholuo music: Opoto Suleman, Joyce Adhiambo, Rose Auma, Jeremire Atieno, Saye Ber mo, Alfred Amach and others.
Thankyou so much😂. I’ve never heard of any of these songs before.
@@KPtravels001 Please listen to them, they were done by old kenyan bands like Kawere boys band etc. You can even invest in translating them. We enjoyed that music here in Uganda 🇺🇬 and 🇰🇪.
@@Dr.lukwagoAsuman okay, I will listen to them 😊
Can you do more random street conversations.
Where exactly😊?
UGENYA /ALEGO LUO
1000- Gana
100- Piero apar achiel
200- Piero apar Ariyo.
Year 2022- gana ariyo gi Piero ariyo gariyo.
1999- Gana achiel Piero apar ochiko gi Pierochiko gochiko.
Charles Musewe
Nakuru
I love how you are flexing your fluency😊
Charles asante ang'yo kawuono gana en 1000 wow ,,bi imia support achope Gana achiel bende
The guys didn't know alur well there Wang...as eye and wanguwa as grant mother but our eyes is wangwa but our grant mother is wanguwa the pronouciation is completely different
Ooh really? I believe his Alur is very good. He is from Nebbi district, Northern Uganda. Maybe he just got mixed up for a second 😀. Cameras can be intimidating 😂
Exactly my point bro 😊😊🇺🇬🇺🇬
Wow wangua, haha I love that
Hahahaha he didn't realize that I was setting a trap for him 😂
@@KPtravels001 haha 😄😆🤣
It would be good to see you interact with shilluk one day👍🏿
Ofcourse, I will. Just a matter of time 😂
Shiluk are were
@@amosjohncommenius5326 I will for sure. One tribe at a time
@@amosjohncommenius5326 Shilluk are in South Sudan and probably Ethiopia.
Okoth you should even interview a nuer or a dinka. Try other nilotes in south sudan. Especially river lake nilotes. We are strongly related
Thank you. Are you Nuer or Dinka?
Kazi nziri
Asante sana Clemence.
I hope one day I'll travel to those parts of Uganda, I'm sure I'll feel at home.
Do it when you get a chance. You will never regret it. It’s a journey of self-discovery
The Alur are also in DRC.
Yes you will feel at home
@@odochoscar3113 thank you.
Wanguwa is grandmother
Wang wa refers to our eyes.
Thanks for the clarification
Hello there,, l would really prefer those early childhood teachers, they're many in those areas you're touring, atleast they're trained professionals in language
Thank you so much. I know you are right, but accessing them can be difficult unless I have to stay in the place for more than 1 week in order to hunt them down
How many know the 'bi' in Nairobi is the Maasai version of 'pi', thus the place of cool waters; en kare nyaro pi ? If this intrigues you, wait till i give the meaning of Kar aora Tuom, or Khartoum as we know it nowadays.
Luo of Kenya Sugar Cane is called NIANG'...
TIANG' is remains/stems of harvested Millet or maize... E.g TIANG BEL or TIANG Bando/Oduma
Well, I think you are are right😀
originally there was never a bed (the furniture) among the luo, but when it did, the equivalent was some raised something thus it was just referred to as ngango. but as it were, the earliest reference would have been pien, which loosely translates to skin, and that is also because animal skins were mostly used as bedding
Yeah, I completely agree with you. And to date, the word for “bedding” is “pien/piende ”
Relatives. Good to know. Wan achiel.
Wan achiel nyamera 🤗🤗
Yes..! [omin] K'Ogot [Peter].. following closely I'm..
Contractions (in counting).. [note: K= Kenya]
Example:
Luo (K).. 11.. apar-gi-achiel.. (can it be "apar-ki-achiel"..?)
Acoli/Acholi, Alur, Jonam.. (11) [contracted is] apar-acel.. in full is "apar-wi'e-acel".. or "apar-ki- acel".. the 'wi'e'/'ki' is dropped in 'contractions'.. It is the same all through with 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19... simply adding the 2.. 3.. 4.. and so on..
In Acoli letter 'c' is pronounced 'ch'.. so 'acel' is pronounced 'achel'..
It's great fun.. listening to and, at the same time, learning the similarities and differences..
Thank you.. erokamano..
OAO
Erokamano/Apwoyo Oceng Oyugi. In luo of Kenya it's a "Apar gi Achiel" because we say "10 and 1". "Gi=and/with"
@@KPtravels001
Yes, now I know.. 'gi' (Luo (K)) is 'ki' (Luos (Ug)).. but 'gi' is used to mean "to/for/of them" in contractions.. example "won/min'gi" is "their father/mother"
Erokamano...
@@KPtravels001 in northern Ugandan Luo the counting from 10 is actually:
Apar wi acel; Apar wi Aryo; etc Apar-Acel is actually a short form
Our eyes ,our granny. The intonation is important in this case
As expected. Luo is a tonal language
Otanda for Kenyan luo is borrowed from Swahili while the alur word for bed is also borrowed from some other language there in Uganda possibly Buganda....
Hehehe 😂😂😂😂 a show to watch a hundred times waaaooooh Luo of Kenya is the best yawa
Because u are luo from Kenya
Keta Nelson, it's difficult to tell which luo version is the best because to each their own. Each dialect will claim that they are the best version so I try to just compare without grading 😂
@@KPtravels001 but ours sounds clear than theirs so ours should be the best.......though them too,they must say that theirs is the best one to use but "aisulu"..... "Ng'ato kang'ato pako mana ruadhee"🐂🐂🐂
@@KPtravels001 like I said each clan had its own Luo variant and remember before Bahrel ghazel The Luo people's were living alongside the Nuer in Kodorfan region. Many nuer people were also incorporated into Luo
@@KPtravels001 we need to celebrate the diversity of the Luo tongues and dialects and preserve our language
we are brothers its the border that separated us with its own agenda, I'm an Acholi from south sudan.
I totally agree
Oddly, Alur variants seem to be closest to Kenyan Luo, followed by Padhola. IT would be nice to have a linguist explain how the geographically closer Acholi and Langi are actually Linguistically more distant.
Yeah, initially I thought padhola was the closest to luo to luo of Kenya due geographical closeness but that was before talking to jonam in Pakwach Northern Uganda
You need to check languages like languages like Colo and anyuak
Lango borrowed lot or were influenced by Acholi
Kumam as well were influenced by Acholi.
There are 3 main dialects of Acholi:
1. Labwor
2.Dhopaluo
3.Nyakwai
There are pronunciations in Acholi which are not found in other Luo except Anyuak. For example K in between vowels in pronounce from the throat. 'ngo' in between vowels is also pronounced from the throat . This applies also to sentences. 'R' at the end of words which are vowels is voiceless unless a vowel follows. This applies to shilluk (collo) as wel
Also during migrations groups migrated as clans each with its Luo variant
Haha#4:40 indeed there is another meaning of Nyaara in Luo Anywaa if the two aa's in the middle are not stressed properly. While Nyaara means "my daughter", Nyara means "my crotch"
Hahahaha shhhhhhh 🤫🤫
Actually tun is virgina and nyara is my crotch in Acholi.
Amor gi tiji Baba. 👍
Erokamano. Help share with your friends and have every possible luo onboard
Ng'amotegno is actually an older person in Kenyan luo. Ng'amatek or ng'amaretego is a strong person. Ng'amaduong' is a big person. Jodongo are older people, and jaduong' is one olde person..
Hahahaha are you telling me that I'm not so fluent in my own language?😂😂😂😂So "ngamotegno" DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME MEANING AS "ng'ama tek" ?
@@KPtravels001 I do not know about how fluent you are, but ng'amotegno is definitely not the same as ng'amatek. One is an old person while the other is a strong person. This difference is likely not even regional. Penj oremi, omera. 😀
Acoli:
ngat/dano ma tek is a strong person
ngat/dano ma oteggi/otii is grown/old person
ngat/dano ma dit is a big/grown person
@@ocengoyugi4578 ludongo =grown up people. Diit may mean old age
@@odochokee9856
Correct.. just didn't include "ludongo" which is plural "ladwong"/.. and there is "ludito" for "ladit"
Do Lou of ethiopia(Anyuak)
I will Ariet. Gambella has been in my mind for a long time now
Dano otego is also an elderly person full of wisdom..tego is maturity but we usually say dano onyo Jo adongo
Unbelievable similarities. I think East African countries should remove all colonial boundaries & merge to enable us mingle freely.
That’s right. The imaginary borders keeping brothers apart
APUOYO RUOTH--i praise God
Hallelujah 🙏
A grandmother is awang and our grandmother wangwa.
The great Luo Nation.
Hallelujah. I'm happy to be reconnecting it
How do you say grown man : wan'gwa Suprised host: How do you say our eyes: wang'wa 🤣🤣
Wanguwa : our grandma
Wangwa: our eyes
Am I clear??🤔🤔🇺🇬
Oro for years is also Kenyan but haven't heard it used since the 1960s.
I'm aware of this terminology but I've only heard being used to refer to seasons. More like a dry season [luos of Kenya should feel free to correct me]
@@KPtravels001 that's also correct. One word may mean tons of things eg "Lando" is a brownish red female whether human or animal. It may also mean to broadcast or spread.
@@aduwopbarack1050 when did this lando thing start ? Because most nilotes are dark
@@babyboasty6033 you must be very young and little exposed as far as the dholuo is concerned. Lando has been in use, should I say forever, I was born seventy years ago and found my elders using it.
Remember too, nilotes have been in close proximity with the Arabs for millenia. Inter marriages took place even before the Luo of Kenya reached their current homeland. A section of the Luo, the Jopaluo of Khartoum are today more or less Arabs.
Luos of Kenya don't say miachiel. We say Pier apar achiel. Mia is borrowed from Kiswahili. For example 1980 is- Gana achiel pier apar ochiko gi pier aboro
That's true. But it's also a time choice between "what's correct " and "what's actually used in real life conversations "
Another meaning of nyara is my virgina. The intonation is important
... explains the giggling in the video.
@@vowuor from nyar vagina
Peter tem ipenjnae comparison mag gik machal kama
Names of Domestic animals
Names of wild animals
On ENVIRONMENT ask
Forest
Hills and mountains
Valleys
Rivers/streams/wells
Lakes
Rain
Drought
Wind
Hail(storms)
Hot
Cold
Names of common fruits
Names of various birds
Names of various fish
Names of various birds
Yeah, I already do that with domestic animals 😊
Otegno can also mean mature...hence dated/old.
Thanks for this correction. Other people claimed so too
Tegno may not only mean strong; it also means mature. Maembe no osetegno; that mango 🥭 is mature.
Hahahaha I love how this channel gets people into arguing luo grammar into details 😀. Good example sentence too. I agree with you
Those who laughed at the word Nyara are "Bantus" I guess. In Bantu languages, "Nyara" means to urinate.
Hahahaha no, they're luo speakers. This was in Pakwach, Northern Uganda which is exclusively a luo region. There's another meaning to "nyara" which is somehow sexual and naughty 😊. And that explains the giggles
He is wrong about another meaning of ''Nyara'' 😂😂 but he is a wise man
hahahaha he’s playing low😂
gROWING advanced in age is also a form of 'tegno'--there is a luo saying that 'peopLe DREAD OLD AGE'--TEGNO Ji OLUORO!
Well so it's both for the advancement in age and strength
@@KPtravels001 sure....I said as much...I said it is ALSO a form of.....
Wang'uwa - our grandmother
Wang'wa our eyes
Thanks for the clarification. Is there any difference in pronunciation?
@@KPtravels001 for some of us, definitely. Alur pronunciation greatly depends on where we grow up. So wang'uwa will have the "u" sound heard, but some who speak fast may have it silenced and it won't be heard. But I could be mistaken. If anyone else here pronounces it different I'd appreciate their input.
You can say Dani too
Wanguwa or jaja mwa
The luo community unites East Africa. Make it one country
Luo are spread allover East Africa
Nitafutie comedian Ojur kwon and ask the meaning of the name Ojur from Alur and we compare with the luo of Kenya, am humble.
Hahahaha it's difficult to look for individuals but if our paths cross I'll definitely put your request into consideration
@@KPtravels001 Humble me
Danwa is broken dholuo used by the young these days. The right word is "DAWA". Their grandma is dagi. Ng'ama otegno may also be an elderly person.
Yeah, I side with you on this
Dani = Dani wa for Danwa & Dani gi for Dagi
@@owagarodgers5554 I'd call that modern Luo used by the young. Quite ungrammatical. Dani in grammatical Luo is strictly " your grandma" ie 2nd person singular. Today, the young use it to mean DAYO ie grandma generally and not specific to any person.
Bed in dho Luo is "kar pien" or just "pien".
I think "pien" is bedding
Also in northern Ugandan Luo there was Odwel which was a bed made of animal skin. my parents and grandparents used it .
Pien was a general term
Grand mother is wangu then our gran mother is wanguwa our eyes is Wang wa
Oooh difficult to differentiate in speech
Am luo from Kenya .but i understand jonam very clearly.they sounds exactly like us
Because THEY ARE US😉
Ba'ng chie'ng is also odichie'ng ka odichie'ng or pile pile
I've never used bang' chieng' but the other two are very familiar and common vocabulary to me
You need to draw a comparison btn the Thur of uganda and the luo of kenya.they are so similar
Is that another tribe?
Yeah it's a tribe in Uganda,they live in Abim district in uganda.its in North Eastern uganda.they are so unique.they are luo speakers
@@KPtravels001 it is labwor and nyakwai
I guess anyuak people are next
That's right. I'm mapping them down
Dawa
Am a japathola and my mum is Janam am proud of thez
You're a perfect cocktail of the luo.
Our grand mother in jonam is dhawa
Ooh that's very close to my version of "dawa"
Ugenya says jal too.
Yeah, I agree with that
Old people in Luo should be jomotii. jomadongo are big people, but could also mean old people.
I think there's a thin line. Adults vs Elderly people
We also say jomotegno/jomoti to mean old people in Kenya
The Alego, dialect?
That was pretty much interesting. Ugandan Luos however don't come across as confident as their Kenyan brothers and this is visibly attributable to disparity in literacy levels. Ugandan Luos use a kind of pidgin English learnt through osmosis that doesn't conform to the principles of grammar. There's also a great deal of Buganda speech intonation influence in their speech patterns.
Hahahaha we'll I'm not sure if it's okay to judge along the literacy line.
It's the Luganda influence, considering that it's the national language besides English.
Let comment in luo too omera
Hahahaha be the change you want 😀
Wan Achiel Jo Luo
Wan Achiel 👌
Luos have learnt 1000 is Gana ,kara koro bi umia support achopie Gana achiel ,biuru kuchwiny 🤣🤣🤣🤣