Hey! There are also a luo sub-tribe in Gambela, Ethiopia where I’m from called Anyuak. Anyuaks are on the boarder of Ethiopia and South Sudan. You should interview us too
Hi Ari Othow.. just checking whether you know.. KP K'ogot is right now in Gambela region (Ethiopia).. I hope you have already watched the first video produced there.. uploaded about a week ago... Thank you.. stay well..
Interesting series. I can explain the difference in vocabulary. The Kumam speak a mixture of Luo and Ateso, and infact are considered by the Iteso to be their brothers. All those words that you're missing are actually from Ateso.
@@KPtravels001 I leave that to a Kumam here to answer this. The language is mostly Luo in structure and vocbulary, but when we count the number of "Ateker" (the larger group that brings together related tribes from Kenya, Uganda, all the way to Ethiopia and South Sudan), Kumam are counted amongst them. The Langi have managed to get out despite the common origins with Ateker and retaining their clan system and a little vocabulary, their language is now more or less Luo, but the Kumam have not yet. Maybe one day they will, but in these days when languages are influencing each because of technology, maybe it will morph into a completely different language altogether.
I believe Ronald may not be very proficient and fluent in Kumam. I'm sorry, but I wish you had interviewed someone more fluent, perhaps from a place like Kaberamaido or Kalaki, which are predominantly Kumam-speaking. For instance, the colour green is referred to as I think - "Lumlum" or "Alulum" ....(Something of the sort) in Kumam. The Kumam speakers in Amolatar often mix Kumam with some Langi. Ronald's Kumam has been influenced by another language, thats Langi, since Amolatar is predominantly a Langi-speaking district. I can't wait for interviews like this in the future, the comparisons are interesting.
There should also be a project to revisit those communities that were of Luo origin but lost their language yet maintained some of their culture and traditions and promt people to learn Dholuo. such as Bulamogi in busoga ; areas of Samia etc...
@@KPtravels001 it is a community which settled among the bantu Busoga of uganda as Luo moved towards Kenya. They lost the Luo language but maintained the royalty and culture of Luo and are aware of their background. They even maintained Luo blood. They maintained burial tombs of their kings which remind them of Their origins
I am Luhya but I have always been fascinated by the spread of Luo Languange. I once visited Tororo and I had a languange that resembles Luo, I made very many friends there. There was a guy called Owino who was my tour guide.
Thank you. I try to give my best. I’m lucky to be able to do it. The most amazing part is being able to meat and talk to every single Lou dialect and/or tribe
K'ogot, This is good work. Of all the Luo people of Uganda compared to the Luo of Kenya, Kumam are the most difficult to understand. I'm from Kisumu, Kenya 🇰🇪.
Kumam got most of their language from Lango and also from Luo communities from Eastern Acholi e.g Puranga. But the majority of Kumam were of nilohamites origin who were subdued by Luo. They speak a language very similar to Lango. But are almost bilingual I.e 20%Teso +80%Luo
@@cavineowaka6749 even the Luo when they were moving to Kenya and Tanzania affected the Bantu tribes of busoga and Samia in uganda. The Samia bantu language is almost bilingual. It incorporated many Luo words and also part of their grammar was affected . The Luo established the royalty of busoga .
@@cavineowaka6749 yes the Lamogi dynasty ruled Busoga for many centuries there is enough evidence in a place called bulamogi in busoga and the people thereare aware of their origin
Awesome! Thank you! I'm happy to be awakening the luos and giving them access to true knowledge about the luo people and their history. Don't forget to subscribe and share my videos with your friends and family. I want as many luos as possible
I'm Kikuyu but I'm very interested in the languages of Africa in general. Sounds like the Kumam say 10 just like the Turkana, Kalenjin and Maasai in Kenya. 10 is _Tomon/Taman_ in all these languages. 4 is almost the same across all these languages, including Luo. They all say something close to _Ang'wen_ . I have Maasai ancestry on my mother's side, from more than a century ago. As someone said, if we all did genetic testing, tribalism might end because we'd find that we're deeply related. What I'm trying to find out is whether there's _any_ relation between the Luo and languages spoken in West Africa, especially around the Senegambian, Guinea, Mali etc regions. The way their languages sound makes me believe there has to be _some_ really ancient relationship. They sound the way I imagine Turkana language sounds.
Thanks for the deep insight. Sounds like you have good understanding and indeed interest in the African languages. I didn't know about the connection or rather closeness of Kumam to Maasai and kalenjin but now I do, thanks to people like you 🙏
yeah, you really right....Kumam has a touch of Plain Nilotes in it a lot...If hear his sentence structure and accenting, I hear more of an Iteso/Karimajong flavor than Luo
You are right about the number 4. Almost all nilotes say "angwen". Here is a helpful chart of Nilotic numerals. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_languages#Numerals
May I add that.. "tol" (which is a "string/rope").. really comes from far, far back when there was still no paper money.. [cash] money [as it is now] was "gaggi" (cowrie shells).. which were stringed together (probably in 10s, 20s.. 50s.. 100s.. etc..) So "tol" was probably a "string" of 100 cowrie shells.. so "tol 1" then was for "mia 1" Just for information.. I speak both [leb] Acoli/Acholi and [leb] Lango with similar fluency.. Thank you again...
Well, this is deep history. I would like to agree with you but I have no knowledge to. So I’ll wait for @Odoch Okee to verify this information😂😂😂. He’s better with history
The guy you interviewed is almost forgetting Kumam and being assimilate in Lango because he sounds more Langi than Kumam. For pure Kumam, get someone old from Kabarmaido, or Kalaki. Remove every ba at end of the word for now. My Wife = DAKO NA not Dako na ba. My son = ATIN NA not Atin na ba.
The numbers 1 to 4 in Kumam are similar to Luo. The rest 5 to 10 are similar to language of plain nilotes, they are actually similar to Turkana. Their Number 10 (tomon) is similar to Turkana, Maasai and Kalenjin. Kumam language/dialect is none the less mutually intelligible with Luo
Thanks @cavine. I only noticed that number 5 going on sounded different but I didn’t realize that they are similar to the plain nilotes. Maybe Kumam is sitting on the fence between River-lake nilotes and the plain nilotes
By the way "kwon" (ugali) is apparently common to all the Luo languages/dialects.. to differentiate one simply has to add the name of the grain/root/fruit it [kwon] is made from..
Yeah, seemingly ugali is a key food to all of them and so is the name. it’s also amazing that they use similar grains, such as maize, cassava, millet, sorghum etc, to make flour
@@KPtravels001 Actually ugali is a staple food in sub Saharan Africa from west Africa to South Africa. Actually throughout the black world of African descent. What's used to cook it is what is different. Among black Americans it's called"grit". Ghanaians, kenkey; South Africa, pap; the Kikuyu, ngima; the Swahili, sima also; Zimbabwe, saza or sima
The Kumam person used for this should have been from either Kalaki or Kaberamaido districts. The guy you used is from the Amolatar district. Their Kumam is shaky, which can be seen in his translations.
You'll be surprised by the Shilluk. Their Luo, if it may be called that, is out of this world. To me it's a language remotely akin to the Luo we know to be spoken in Uganda and Kenya.
Thank you George for the compliment. Unfortunately, I don’t have so much knowledge of the political setup because I was focusing more on the linguistic connection but I did one video with an elder which I will upload soon
@African Resource, I haven’t seen any info on this? Do you have more information apart from the mere suspicion ? If I get a concrete info linking them to luo then i’m definitely flying to Nigeria to interview them
Clearly they are the same language. The similarities in sound and meaning of some words determines that. The true comparison would be with people who have long separated from the root of the word like the Luos of West Africa. That is where you will find far and fewer similarities but they will still be there for many words
Kumam are originally not Luo, We are people of the "Atekerin" just like Langi, Teso, Karimojong, Turkana, Masai, Kakwa etc. Kumam and Lango lost their Atekerin dialect to the Luo. Despite the loss of dialect, we still hold similar clan names to other members of the ateker tribes.
Kumam numbers seem to borrow from eastern nilotes. For ten they say tomon, and Teso/Turkana/Lotuxo also say tomon. The same for Kany for five. Do they neighbor those communities? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_languages#Numerals
@@KPtravels001 kumam incorporated large numbers of nilo hamites. But many nilohamite groups were linguistically influenced by Luo. The dialects spoken by Lango and Kumam came under considerable influence from Luo speaking communities from Eastern Acholi most notable Puranga etc ... It is said that the majority of Kumam previously spoke a nilohamites language. Also nilohamites groups in west of kotido district in Karamoja came under considerable linguistic influence of Luo speaking groups
He didn't get it right when it comes to 2000 which is tutu mia aree and then 200,000 is tutu mia tol aree. Then where you said Amosi, a Kumam would say Amoti and one responds that agamo.
@@KPtravels001 they are actually Labwor and nyakwai. They were part if the Luo migration. Their real name is not Thur. Thur was just introduced recently. The labwor Luo still maintains many of the conservative Luo language elements to a greater extent than all of the other Luo tribes of East Africa contrary to the assertion that they were affected by environmental factors
lou of Kanye and lou Alur of Uganda, the way of calling thing is the Same, that meaning ask Alur i can come to Kanye and speak in luo ,without worry I know there can understand me now as an Alur❤😊
The Kumum speak a mixture of Lango and Ateso. Kumum and Lango are not ethnically Luos but part of the Ateker people that includes Itesots, Karamojong, Turkana.
Kumam came into being as a result of the Luo migration. The Lango Dyang(nilohamites) were affected and lost their original language in favour of Luo. The Luo were not many but affected many as exemplified in other areas as well: The kalenjin and Bantu were also affected etc.. even Arabs were subdued as well as pseudo-Arab tribes in northern Sudan
@@odochokee9856 oh okay I do not know that, I’m a South Sudanese but I quickly noticed how Kumam has highland Nilotic words when I heard words like ongon and tomon plus several other words.
According to my experience a large percentage of Kumam people have learnt Lango Luo and communicate with other Luo speakers in northern uganda in Lango.
Suggestion please.. If practically possible and convenient.. at least 2 people (an elder and a youth/younger person) should be interviewed.. elders have a better and deeper knowledge and understanding of a language [dialect].. Very much with omin.. Erokamano.. Apwoyo..
@@michaelonyingeemaju6236 Thank plenty Onyinge Emaju.. Elders definitely know a native tongue/language a lot better than the youths.. An educated youth is likely to be a translator.. where an elder does not know.. or doesn't properly understands the English language.. Thank you.. stay well...
I guess this kumam representative isn't well informed with some of kumam vocabulary but thanks for effort made . Well informed kumam vocabulary are in hearts of kaberamaido a nd kalaki. thanks
Blue is apii-apii in Acholi Luo. Red is kwar. I know it is difficult to spell words in Acholi but Kwar is the right spelling but the r is voiceless except when a vowel follows as a sentence. E.g kwar akwara I.e it is merely red
The guy you have brought is completely empty. He doesn't understand language use and rules. It is wired that according to him everything ends with ba. For the rest of the Luo languages you intend to do, please consider bringing people with better language grammar.
In Acholi 'Atworo' is green; blue is 'omuuya' (or col but col also means black). Yellow is ocwaak . Amur-amur is grey. Anyim-anyim is dark grey. Lamir is dark brown
Understandable. Atworo simply means like the sisal plant which is green 💚. The Kenyan Luo, on the other hand, liken colour green to grass "alum". Ochwak, though I'm not absolutely certain, conjured in my mind the colour of 🔥. Might the Acholi been comparing yellow to fire? I'm uncertain as to Amur-amur for grey. To the Kenyan Luo grey is Raburu ie colour of ash. Anyim-anyim sounds to me to be likening dark grey especially to the traditional dark sesame seed. Lamir goes well with Kenyan Luo mirmir. The Nuer, on the other hand, Machar(Rachar Kenyan for white) is black.
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Hey! There are also a luo sub-tribe in Gambela, Ethiopia where I’m from called Anyuak. Anyuaks are on the boarder of Ethiopia and South Sudan. You should interview us too
Thanks Ariet, I'm actually planning the Gambella trip now. I'll be in Ethiopia soon for the Anyuak Interview 😊
@@KPtravels001 yay! I’m so excited.
@@KPtravels001 try Kwon and sukuma by anyuak people and see how you compare it to the one made by luo of Kenya
@@AriCooksEastAfrica if I get to an Anyuak household I'll be happy to try it there 😂😂. Home-cooked meal
Hi Ari Othow.. just checking whether you know.. KP K'ogot is right now in Gambela region (Ethiopia)..
I hope you have already watched the first video produced there.. uploaded about a week ago...
Thank you.. stay well..
Loving this video as we watch with my son!!! this is incredible! I am Kumam and my husband is Acholi.
I'm happy to know that I'm influencing a whole family 😍😍😍
I'm not getting anything but the fact that you are trying to unite with fellow brothers n sisters. I'm following each n every video without Fail
Thank you. I'm trying to leave a footprint in history as one of the individuals who took the initiative to reunite the luo
Interesting series. I can explain the difference in vocabulary. The Kumam speak a mixture of Luo and Ateso, and infact are considered by the Iteso to be their brothers. All those words that you're missing are actually from Ateso.
Oooh really? So do Kumam think of themselves as luo or Teso?🤔
@@KPtravels001 I leave that to a Kumam here to answer this. The language is mostly Luo in structure and vocbulary, but when we count the number of "Ateker" (the larger group that brings together related tribes from Kenya, Uganda, all the way to Ethiopia and South Sudan), Kumam are counted amongst them. The Langi have managed to get out despite the common origins with Ateker and retaining their clan system and a little vocabulary, their language is now more or less Luo, but the Kumam have not yet. Maybe one day they will, but in these days when languages are influencing each because of technology, maybe it will morph into a completely different language altogether.
I believe Ronald may not be very proficient and fluent in Kumam. I'm sorry, but I wish you had interviewed someone more fluent, perhaps from a place like Kaberamaido or Kalaki, which are predominantly Kumam-speaking. For instance, the colour green is referred to as I think - "Lumlum" or "Alulum" ....(Something of the sort) in Kumam. The Kumam speakers in Amolatar often mix Kumam with some Langi. Ronald's Kumam has been influenced by another language, thats Langi, since Amolatar is predominantly a Langi-speaking district. I can't wait for interviews like this in the future, the comparisons are interesting.
Thank you. I actually went to Kaberamaido later and recorded more than just the Kumam language.
There should also be a project to revisit those communities that were of Luo origin but lost their language yet maintained some of their culture and traditions and promt people to learn Dholuo. such as Bulamogi in busoga ; areas of Samia etc...
Bulamogi? Never heard of this tribe before
@@KPtravels001 it is a community which settled among the bantu Busoga of uganda as Luo moved towards Kenya. They lost the Luo language but maintained the royalty and culture of Luo and are aware of their background. They even maintained Luo blood.
They maintained burial tombs of their kings which remind them of
Their origins
@@odochokee9856 ooh it would be interesting to visit these people and talk to the elders who understand the history
Try Anyuak, Chollo, Acholi, Pari and Luo Of Bar Elgazhal of South Sudan, we have a lot of similarities between ourselves
One step at a time. I will have everyone convered
You are left with "Acholi tribe" of South Sudan. I love what you are doing with luo language comparison. That's all unity, go on forever
Thank you so much. Are Acholi of South Sudan different from Acholi of Uganda?
I am Luhya but I have always been fascinated by the spread of Luo Languange. I once visited Tororo and I had a languange that resembles Luo, I made very many friends there. There was a guy called Owino who was my tour guide.
Yeah, luo is bigger than initially thought. The padhola of Tororo is about 98% similar to luo of Kenya and Tanzania
Kumam is much of itesot
This is wonderful I'm so grateful for your efforts 👍🏿
Thank you. I try to give my best. I’m lucky to be able to do it. The most amazing part is being able to meat and talk to every single Lou dialect and/or tribe
Wawoo dats great am so proud to be a luo blood thaxs for bringing up us on top🙏🙏🙏apwoyo twatwal.
You are welcome Akello. Kindly share my videos widely. I want more luos on board.
K'ogot,
This is good work.
Of all the Luo people of Uganda compared to the Luo of Kenya, Kumam are the most difficult to understand. I'm from Kisumu, Kenya 🇰🇪.
Kumam got most of their language from Lango and also from Luo communities from Eastern Acholi e.g Puranga.
But the majority of Kumam were of nilohamites origin who were subdued by Luo.
They speak a language very similar to Lango. But are almost bilingual I.e 20%Teso +80%Luo
@@odochokee9856 It seem a common historical trend among Luos. Even the Kenyan Luo assimilated the Abasuba (Bantus)
@@cavineowaka6749 even the Luo when they were moving to Kenya and Tanzania affected the Bantu tribes of busoga and Samia in uganda. The Samia bantu language is almost bilingual. It incorporated many Luo words and also part of their grammar was affected . The Luo established the royalty of busoga .
@@odochokee9856 That's quite interesting
@@cavineowaka6749 yes the Lamogi dynasty ruled Busoga for many centuries there is enough evidence in a place called bulamogi in busoga and the people thereare aware of their origin
There is another luo you should try in abim far north boarders karamoja, called labwo
Is that in Uganda still?
@@KPtravels001 yes in uganda
@@KPtravels001 labwor and nyakwai
@@KPtravels001 labwor/Jabwor /Joabwor were a major part of Luo migration and dispersal
They are called acholi labwo, located in abim district.
Wonderful series! Listening from Toronto, Canada ( I am from Ayiti)
Awesome! Thank you! I'm happy to be awakening the luos and giving them access to true knowledge about the luo people and their history. Don't forget to subscribe and share my videos with your friends and family. I want as many luos as possible
Hi KPtravels can you do the same with Luo of Mwanza. I mean the Luo of Tanzania! Godbless.
I thought Mwanza only has wasukuma. I could do the Luo of Shirati but it’s no point because their luo is 100% to luo of Migori or Homabay, Kenya
There is that "ba" he keeps adding. It is used while emphasizing on the word but it is not part of the verb. otherwise great work
Really? I think it's just his favourite word because he seems to add it every 5 seconds 👏
Joluo untie nade?mie platform Na bende subscribers achope aluf achiel,Kumam sounds like turkana
I'm Kikuyu but I'm very interested in the languages of Africa in general. Sounds like the Kumam say 10 just like the Turkana, Kalenjin and Maasai in Kenya. 10 is _Tomon/Taman_ in all these languages. 4 is almost the same across all these languages, including Luo. They all say something close to _Ang'wen_ . I have Maasai ancestry on my mother's side, from more than a century ago. As someone said, if we all did genetic testing, tribalism might end because we'd find that we're deeply related.
What I'm trying to find out is whether there's _any_ relation between the Luo and languages spoken in West Africa, especially around the Senegambian, Guinea, Mali etc regions. The way their languages sound makes me believe there has to be _some_ really ancient relationship. They sound the way I imagine Turkana language sounds.
Thanks for the deep insight. Sounds like you have good understanding and indeed interest in the African languages. I didn't know about the connection or rather closeness of Kumam to Maasai and kalenjin but now I do, thanks to people like you 🙏
Yes sure...it was more of Turkana,am glad you noted too
yeah, you really right....Kumam has a touch of Plain Nilotes in it a lot...If hear his sentence structure and accenting, I hear more of an Iteso/Karimajong flavor than Luo
I actually Lived in Turkana for sure and I know how they call 10
You are right about the number 4. Almost all nilotes say "angwen". Here is a helpful chart of Nilotic numerals. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_languages#Numerals
Opwoyo saana ominaa 🙏🙏 be blessed always
Thanks so much. I highly appreciate 🙂
@@KPtravels001 can l translate what you has said in luo from Kenya " apwoyo sana/ahinya omin"
May I add that.. "tol" (which is a "string/rope").. really comes from far, far back when there was still no paper money.. [cash] money [as it is now] was "gaggi" (cowrie shells).. which were stringed together (probably in 10s, 20s.. 50s.. 100s.. etc..)
So "tol" was probably a "string" of 100 cowrie shells.. so "tol 1" then was for "mia 1"
Just for information.. I speak both [leb] Acoli/Acholi and [leb] Lango with similar fluency..
Thank you again...
Well, this is deep history. I would like to agree with you but I have no knowledge to. So I’ll wait for @Odoch Okee to verify this information😂😂😂. He’s better with history
I I really love this video,am also a kumam but I think he had gotten some words
Thank you so much. Could you point out on some words [if any] that you believe are not correct?
The guy you interviewed is almost forgetting Kumam and being assimilate in Lango because he sounds more Langi than Kumam. For pure Kumam, get someone old from Kabarmaido, or Kalaki.
Remove every ba at end of the word for now.
My Wife = DAKO NA not Dako na ba.
My son = ATIN NA not Atin na ba.
Very inspiring keep moving omin 🙏🤣
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That guy is not fluent in kuman. His kumam has been affected by another language. Green is "lulum"
Oooh that could be true. Are you a native Kumam speaker?
Sorgum in kumam is "Kuon Bel" that "mer" doesn't occur in normal speech
Is "Sorghum" not "bel"? "Kuon bel" sounds more like "sorghum ugali" well I know ugali is a Kenyan terminology but I'm sure you can relate.
The numbers 1 to 4 in Kumam are similar to Luo. The rest 5 to 10 are similar to language of plain nilotes, they are actually similar to Turkana. Their Number 10 (tomon) is similar to Turkana, Maasai and Kalenjin. Kumam language/dialect is none the less mutually intelligible with Luo
Yes kumam can converse with Acholi and lango to some extent
Thanks @cavine. I only noticed that number 5 going on sounded different but I didn’t realize that they are similar to the plain nilotes. Maybe Kumam is sitting on the fence between River-lake nilotes and the plain nilotes
@@KPtravels001 Exactly. Like a blend of the two or a transition between the two
@@cavineowaka6749 we would need a third party Kumam [person] to shed more light on this
Same also as teso
wow, this is a good one because I often suspect Kuman to be nilo-hamites but assimilating slowly to their Luo kith and kins
Yeah, I'm currently trying to understand the assimilation allegations about Kumam
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By the way "kwon" (ugali) is apparently common to all the Luo languages/dialects.. to differentiate one simply has to add the name of the grain/root/fruit it [kwon] is made from..
Yeah, seemingly ugali is a key food to all of them and so is the name. it’s also amazing that they use similar grains, such as maize, cassava, millet, sorghum etc, to make flour
@@KPtravels001 Actually ugali is a staple food in sub Saharan Africa from west Africa to South Africa. Actually throughout the black world of African descent. What's used to cook it is what is different. Among black Americans it's called"grit". Ghanaians, kenkey; South Africa, pap; the Kikuyu, ngima; the Swahili, sima also; Zimbabwe, saza or sima
Tol achiel is also Kenya Luo, I remember using it in the village.
Is it still in use now? Which village?
yeah you are right by the way...I too remember that same thing. the word "tol" kinda meant a complete unit, equated to 100. An JaMbita
In Alur Zombo "DAK" referring to as Hundred
The Kumam person used for this should have been from either Kalaki or Kaberamaido districts. The guy you used is from the Amolatar district. Their Kumam is shaky, which can be seen in his translations.
On colors, Kenyan Luos can also say "tar" for white. "Laki tar ka chiewo", means your teeth are as white as fresh milk.
Yes, I agree. Though I think “tar” is a figurative language
true brother am a kumam proud one from uganda really am glad with our brothers around the globe
tar apply
@@etapuivan9431 thank you. We're proud to have all Luo groups on one platform
Homabay Dholuo is not that Luo but the orthogragraphy is a challenge. Okello Nyakwar Jaramba Nairobi Kenya
Am really waiting for the south Sudan Luos especially shilluk, jor chul and nuer
I’m looking into the logistics of getting to the south Sudanese Luos.
You'll be surprised by the Shilluk. Their Luo, if it may be called that, is out of this world. To me it's a language remotely akin to the Luo we know to be spoken in Uganda and Kenya.
i cant wait to see comparison of Acholi Labwo
Is it very different from the Acholi version that's already done?
@@KPtravels001 yes they are different from Acholi, they have a mix of Acholi and Karimojong.
I appreciate the luos of Africa. The similarities and the closeness that we have. This make me want to travel and meet more of our people.
Yes, travel far and wide and meet the luos
Please come to The district of Abim, Karamoja Region, of Uganda,
Which tribe is there?
@@KPtravels001 labwor and luo speaking Nyakwai
Amazing job👍🏿,,,What is the political setup of Luo of Uganda, Congo and S.Sudan
Thank you George for the compliment. Unfortunately, I don’t have so much knowledge of the political setup because I was focusing more on the linguistic connection but I did one video with an elder which I will upload soon
@@KPtravels001 ...great work bt there's power when we come together ❤ 💪
Ochiko can also be 'ongo achiel' in Dholuo ( Ugenya)
Yeah, that's right
I'll be there for you to compare the Luo language.
That Kumam guy is adding irrelevant word "bar"
Oooh many people said this. But I went back to Kaberamaido and did more videos with the Kumam people.
Kany in Kumam is borrowed from Teso. Kanyauni it 5+3 Uni is borrowed from Teso which is three.
True
How do you guys know all these😄🤔?
Mwogo is borrowed from swahili in luo from Kenya cassava is called marieba
This could be true but someone claimed before that “marieba” is borrowed from Kisii😊
Blue color in dhopadhola is manya bululu but green also remains green
Is it midinga or mudunga
Keeping up with the good work bro
Thank you so much brother. A step at a time
Kumam is less intelligible to other Luo dialects but it is unmistakable Luo.
Yeah, I agree with you. Kumam sounds a little distant from the other Lou tribes/sub tribes
The person u interviewed doesn't know Kumam. So many errors in his translation.
Could you point out one of the errors?
interesting to know about Kumam ....
Yeah, I never knew about them before too. I'll do more research on them
Can you try Igbo of Nigeria,,I have a strong sense they are one of us
Evidence shows that the Igbo cluster is genetically closer to Niger-Congo-speaking peoples.The predominant Y-chromosmoal haplogroup is E1b1a1-M2
@African Resource, I haven’t seen any info on this? Do you have more information apart from the mere suspicion ? If I get a concrete info linking them to luo then i’m definitely flying to Nigeria to interview them
@@KPtravels001 igbo speak a different language
@@KPtravels001 do not waste your time and money at this time maybe next time
@@KPtravels001 their name system and meanings if the names are similar to those of luo
Please visit Abim district in Uganda
We speak like luo Kenya
Is that the Thur people? Or Acholi Labwor?
Thanks, it's Acholi Labwor/Ethur
There's no difference but Ethur is just an internal nickname
@@Eymalex1831 thank you for this clarification.
Hello sir good work,next time try traditional dance.
Hahahaha thanks so much. However, it's difficult to focus on everything at the same time. Now I'm focusing on the language and later on we can expand
200 = tol are
2,000 = tutumia are
Tutumia = a thousand
Tol = hundred
Ayagora kodi in Luo Kenya also means amosi
Yeah, I'm aware of this phrase. I'm just not sure if it cuts across
Clearly they are the same language. The similarities in sound and meaning of some words determines that. The true comparison would be with people who have long separated from the root of the word like the Luos of West Africa. That is where you will find far and fewer similarities but they will still be there for many words
I don't think there are luos in west Africa
I love what you are doing
Thank you so much. I’m enjoying every step on the way😊
Duuma(maize) and bando( posho) . These two seem to be similar with one bantu language in Uganda called Lusoga and the Luo of Kenya
There have been alot of word borrowings. And I think, the two mentioned words were borrowed from the bantu tribes.
Green is Alum alum in Acoli
Ooh yeah, that's true
I think kuman may be closer to teso and some Highland nilotes like kalenjin,because of migration and assimilation of other languages
Yeah, some people have mentioned Maasai, Teso and Turkana. I think I will need a separate video to explore this bit
Kumam are originally not Luo, We are people of the "Atekerin" just like Langi, Teso, Karimojong, Turkana, Masai, Kakwa etc. Kumam and Lango lost their Atekerin dialect to the Luo. Despite the loss of dialect, we still hold similar clan names to other members of the ateker tribes.
Oooh really? I think I'll come back to Lira to cover this bit of history
He keeps adding ba
Kumam numbers seem to borrow from eastern nilotes. For ten they say tomon, and Teso/Turkana/Lotuxo also say tomon. The same for Kany for five. Do they neighbor those communities?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_languages#Numerals
Victor, is it "chieyo" or "chiew" ?
I'm not sure if they border these communities but I felt Kumam was somehow linguistically distant from the other luo tribes
@@KPtravels001 That was a typo. It should be "chiewo", in my version of Luo.
Interestingly, in Kalenjin it is "chego". That is one of the Nilotic words that is widely used within and without the Luo.
@@KPtravels001 kumam incorporated large numbers of nilo hamites.
But many nilohamite groups were linguistically influenced by Luo. The dialects spoken by Lango and Kumam came under considerable influence from Luo speaking communities from Eastern Acholi most notable Puranga etc ... It is said that the majority of Kumam previously spoke a nilohamites language.
Also nilohamites groups in west of kotido district in Karamoja came under considerable linguistic influence of Luo speaking groups
He didn't get it right when it comes to 2000 which is tutu mia aree and then 200,000 is tutu mia tol aree.
Then where you said Amosi, a Kumam would say Amoti and one responds that agamo.
Kumam nyae?
The numbers from 1 to 4 similar to Luo but from 5 to 10 are so similar to teso language again
Because, Kumam were assimilated from the Ateker group (which these belongs to). Kumam were not originally luos.
Well done..one love..am a kumam
OOh really? Your opinions on the accuracy of the words used in the video will be highly appreciated 😃
color green is Lulum in kumam
Is this the only word for this or are there alternative vocabulary?
@@KPtravels001 its the only one.
You need to do the with the luo in Abim district.they are called the thur
I’ve never heard of “Thur”. Are they a separate tribe or a dialect of the other luo tribes?
@@KPtravels001 they are actually Labwor and nyakwai. They were part if the Luo migration. Their real name is not Thur. Thur was just introduced recently. The labwor Luo still maintains many of the conservative Luo language elements to a greater extent than all of the other Luo tribes of East Africa contrary to the assertion that they were affected by environmental factors
Luo of Kenya count similar to acoli. Green that is alum and it's derived from grass color and cassava is Gwana in acoli.
lou of Kanye and lou Alur of Uganda, the way of calling thing is the Same, that meaning ask Alur i can come to Kanye and speak in luo ,without worry I know there can understand me now as an Alur❤😊
That's very much correct. I did the same thing in Pakwach
Then how will a married woman call the sister to her husband
two thousand is "tutumiya are", "tutumiya tolare" is two hundred thousand... i think his kumam is a little different. we appreciate
I can't really verify this info because I don't speak Kumam but you could be right 😀
The Kumum speak a mixture of Lango and Ateso. Kumum and Lango are not ethnically Luos but part of the Ateker people that includes Itesots, Karamojong, Turkana.
Well, some people claimed so too in the comments. Could it be a case of assimilation? Being absorbed by the luo tribes?
I think Kumam is a mixture of Luo and highland Like Toposa, Jiye, Otuho of South Sudan and Turkana, Kalenjin, Maasai plus Karimojong of Uganda etc
Kumam came into being as a result of the Luo migration. The Lango Dyang(nilohamites) were affected and lost their original language in favour of Luo. The Luo were not many but affected many as exemplified in other areas as well:
The kalenjin and Bantu were also affected etc.. even Arabs were subdued as well as pseudo-Arab tribes in northern Sudan
@@odochokee9856 oh okay I do not know that, I’m a South Sudanese but I quickly noticed how Kumam has highland Nilotic words when I heard words like ongon and tomon plus several other words.
@@odochokee9856 I can relate the word Luo to Luop in our language which means to follow.
@@jiengdaaropakuei5290 Kumam were originally highland or plain nilotes (nilohamites)
@@jiengdaaropakuei5290 luop means follow in Acholi Luo
Their numbers and those for masaai are somehow similar
Aree 2
Ong'wan 4
Unii 3
Tomon 10
Willis, someone said the same thing up in the comments. Thanks for pointing this out. I didn't know about the Maasai numbers
Coz they are close to Teso who are also related to Maasai's
For sure u got person who grew in mixed tribe langi and some kumam
According to my experience a large percentage of Kumam people have learnt Lango Luo and communicate with other Luo speakers in northern uganda in Lango.
Moses, are you a Kumam?
Kwon gwana(cassava)in acholi
That's slightly different from the version I'm accustomed to
Kuon oduma or kuon bell
Suggestion please..
If practically possible and convenient.. at least 2 people (an elder and a youth/younger person) should be interviewed.. elders have a better and deeper knowledge and understanding of a language [dialect]..
Very much with omin..
Erokamano.. Apwoyo..
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try this with the Anyuak of Ethiopia
@@KPtravels001
Big thank you.. will be following very closely..
Exactly. This matter of picking youth only is not good. We need elders who know the real dialect
@@michaelonyingeemaju6236
Thank plenty Onyinge Emaju..
Elders definitely know a native tongue/language a lot better than the youths..
An educated youth is likely to be a translator.. where an elder does not know.. or doesn't properly understands the English language..
Thank you.. stay well...
Thanx brother but the person you are interviewing lacks a bit of the language but tutumia are not tutumia tol are is 200000
Yeah, other people said the same. And so I went to Kaberamaido and did other videos with the Kumam.
Green color is Lulum in Lango
Thank you for the clarification
I guess this kumam representative isn't well informed with some of kumam vocabulary but thanks for effort made . Well informed kumam vocabulary are in hearts of kaberamaido a nd kalaki. thanks
Tutumia are.2000
Tutumia tol are is two hundred thousand and two thousand is tutumia are.
Lou from Ethiopia, Anywaa green means maar, white, tar, black chol,
Sounds familiar 👌
Green is Lulum or Alulum
The numbers are the same as anyuak, and a a lot of words are similar. Lol, not me here correcting everything y’all said😂
That's great Martha. But I'll still have to come to Gambella and hear from them directly 😂
Tomon is actually 10 in kalenjin...
Oooh now getting to know more than what I imagined
Iomunei?
@@PLACESNONDESCRIPT achomegi!
We call green omuar/maar,
By shilluk language
Am proud kumam from kaberamido district ochero
Apwoyo ba. I enjoyed my time in Kaberamaido
Thanks for your program but that man is not a real kumam he's a amuteso
Jonam green colour is[alum]
Jonam is almost 99% luo of Kenya
Daku para, chiega. Chwara, Waya I Can see just that adding ba. Ba in Alur (Congo) is like insisting. Kwen anyogi, kwen bel,kwen kal. 2000(elufu aryo)
Kumam and Langi are not Luo tribes.
That's true. They are assimilated
Our brother there, Ber Ber 💚💚
Ber ahinya😄
Think we should use tol achiel or tara achiel for 100 instead of mia achiel
I think anyuak use dipar for 100. Inthink thats the original 100.
@@cls4786 I like that...apar dipar to mean 100
@@okumuokelo4494 well I agree with you. We’re slowly losing the language
Acholi ,white, tar, green,,alumlum, blue..,buluu,red kwa
I can relate with all that perfectly 😀
Blue is apii-apii in Acholi Luo. Red is kwar. I know it is difficult to spell words in Acholi but Kwar is the right spelling but the r is voiceless except when a vowel follows as a sentence. E.g kwar akwara I.e it is merely red
@@odochokee9856 apwoyo twatwal Ka gire tye kitmeno
Tutumia is thousands, Tol is hundreds. So 2000 (two thousand) is Tutumia tol are and then 200(two hundred) is tol are
Why not “tutumia are”?
Wow
I can see the Kumam dialect sounds nearer to Kalenjins of Kenya. Highland Nilotes.
Yeah because they are an assimilated luo group
Dha Anywaa Gambella, Ethiopia
1: aciel 11:apaar ka(ko) ciel
2.ariew. 20 piera arieo...
3.adak 100 dipa aciel
4.angween
5.abic
6.abiciel
7.abirio
8 abara
9:abingween
10:apaar
I will be coming to Gambella very soon. Anyuak/Anywaa are my next subtribe
20 is pier arieo( with a single a). It sounds like two a’s due to the pace.
The accent is close to Luos of South Nyanza - Kenya.
Really? I find Kumam to be the most difficult of them all
The guy you have brought is completely empty. He doesn't understand language use and rules. It is wired that according to him everything ends with ba. For the rest of the Luo languages you intend to do, please consider bringing people with better language grammar.
Thanks for the opinion. That will be taken into consideration for my next videos
In Acholi 'Atworo' is green; blue is 'omuuya' (or col but col also means black). Yellow is ocwaak . Amur-amur is grey. Anyim-anyim is dark grey. Lamir is dark brown
Tworo = sisal?
Tworo=sisal
Amot'i Odoch Okee..
Ikelo nying rangi ma pat pat ma ber adada.. pwoc keken...
@@KPtravels001 Alum-Alum can be used interchangeably with Atworo. The latter is more used by the older generation.
Understandable. Atworo simply means like the sisal plant which is green 💚. The Kenyan Luo, on the other hand, liken colour green to grass "alum". Ochwak, though I'm not absolutely certain, conjured in my mind the colour of 🔥. Might the Acholi been comparing yellow to fire? I'm uncertain as to Amur-amur for grey. To the Kenyan Luo grey is Raburu ie colour of ash. Anyim-anyim sounds to me to be likening dark grey especially to the traditional dark sesame seed. Lamir goes well with Kenyan Luo mirmir. The Nuer, on the other hand, Machar(Rachar Kenyan for white) is black.
Nera means a brother to my mum.
True. The luo only considers mother's brothers as uncles
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We also call that one okuk kede ilike they have sharp gills