Can a NOOB tell the difference between a 144Hz and a 60Hz PC gaming monitor?
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I recently got my hands on the first high refresh rate monitor I have ever used and it got me thinking "Can a noob tell the difference between a 144Hz and 60Hz PC gaming"
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To answer this question I enlisted Anna (PC gaming noob who is also a girl) so that we could do some tests.
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Just wondering what cpu cooler you using in that build on video?
Look up what double blind is, because that’s not what you’re doing here. But anyway good vid
Its less visual but the action response time and snappyness of movement is what people who can't see it visually will almost 100% notice. Even if you can't tell visually its a higher refresh rate, you'll know based purely on how it feels.
@@TehHuskeydood So true! It's more about the feel than the look!
The human eye can't see more than 4gb of ram
Haha!!
32 bit humans cant, but 64 bit ones can :D
Sounds pretty bad, might need to overclock our eyes to 3200MHz to make up for that
More like 2 Pieces of CPU Core
🤣🤣🤣🤣
When I first got my 144hz monitor I literally sat for 10 minutes just moving my mouse around cause it looked so smooth lmao
Lmao hopefully this is me. Just built a gaming pc and ordered a 144hz monitor that's coming in tomorrow
Just got an asus 165hz monitor, first time gaming on a gaming monitor. Totally worth it. I was using a small TV before, and the response time was over 50ms.. higher than my ping, and now my current monitor is .5ms definitely helps when aiming in games and trying to dodge attacks.
Did this too LOL. Soooo smooth!
Dude same with my 165 hz vg258
lol
“Budget high refresh rate monitors have been available for quite some time.”
*shows $554 monitor*
Mine was 160 euro
Mine was £100 and something
They are as cheap as 169$ usd Aoc 24g2e
@@issdar Have the 27" of that serie, €239,-/$280,-. Great monitor for a reasonable budget.
Even so $554 isn’t bad
Fun fact: the human eye can't see me owning a pc
Edit: Last 2 months, I got a PC but week later it broke. Maybe PC's dont like me.
@Cody R well its real
@Cody R im 16 yrs old, still havent got a pc. Only low end phone. Idk why do i know how to do builds tho
@Cody R in fact ive played computers (not personal) in computer shops. Well its a very bad sets with just intel core i3 2120 with no gpu. 2gb ram.
@Cody R well building an okay pc cost about 200usd. The minimum wage of my family is just 200usd a month. So its basically waaaay over the budget
@Cody R i have console. Its snes(idk if its console) ps1 and ps2. Just that
There are two different kinds of people in the world:
Those that can perceive a difference between 60fps and 144fps
and those that are broke
Tbh it's not that expensive nowadays to get a 144hz monitor. At 150 bucks you can get a 144hz monitor. Unless you're like in SUPER tight budgets where you can't stretch 20 more bucks for a better monitor get a 144hz if you're planning and have the hardware to game
WoW that hurts :)))
well there is a third type. people who can but their deps telling them they better shouldnt
@@phreeak which is broke people. if you in debt, you did something wrong.
I dunno if anyone else is like this, but I can physically tell the difference between 60fps and 50fps.
Real gamers play on 60fps panels at 28.4fps on Intel HD graphics.
HELL YEAH
F*ck yeah
U said it right 😂😂
Ryzen is better lmao
720p looks great
It's interesting that Anna never though to use the word "smooth". She said "faster" and "realistic" but for some reason gamers just describe it as smoothness because that's what they can feel immediately.
In a way faster is accurate, compared to 60 it seems like a weird fast forward effect
You’re right. It is interesting! I love seeing how non gamers describe things that they don’t know the word for. I always enjoy their perspective.
maybe she said "realistic" because there's not much information lag when she moves the pov around, so she can track and process stuff on screen as fast as she would irl, since it doesn't throw you off that much? just guessing
it's more so gamers have certain vocabulary, which non-games don't necesarly have to have knowledge about.
@@ventilate4267
Thats not how refresh rate works.
Someone commented "The human eye can't see more than 4gb of ram
"
But what they don't realize, is most people download more RAM. smh
@Indecisive is it possible to download a graphics card?
@Indecisive yes
@Indecisive Yeah, the amount of times you delete System 32, will double or triple the amount of ram you get
@@connergreen3178 can confirm i just got 64 ram
@Indecisive delete the windows folder
The human ear cannot smell more than 9 ultraviolet lights.
Wait
I knew it!
-Einstein
@Orochimaru. hab gar nich mal mit gemacht lul fand das bild nur schön
Jeezus 😂
How dare you go around ruining innocent people's eyes with a 144hz experience. You KNOW they'll never be able to go back!
Hahaha!! I couldnt help myself but ruin her innocents. :P
jeffreywarf loll
so true
jeffreywarf he called it FPS lol
It’s not as bad as 1ms, I’m starting to see the delay
I love how I'm the later videos she can tell 240 and 144 apart. She has ascended to a geek
The differences from 144hz to 240hz is pretty much as big of a jump as from 60hz to 75hz she was able to tell the differences from 60hz to 75hz but not 144hz what r u dreaming
@@Shan_Shah I've never tried or seen a 240hz monitor.
But she also couldn't tell a lot of stuff apart in their very early videos
@@ameliabuns4058 but 60hz to 144hz is day n night n she should've gotten a 7/7 like if he was doing a blind test on her between 60hz and 75hz 4/7 makes sence as the differences are very suddle between the 2 n nit as big as ppl hope it up 75hz refresh 3.33㎧ quicker than 60hz but what doesn't make sence is she did better when she was done a 60hz vs 75hz blind test but with 144hz 5 of those 7 attempts where guesses it toke her 6 attempts to tell the differences which makes no sence like she is trying to say 75hz is better than 144hz but 144hz n 75hz is a day night differences 144hz refreshes about 10㎧ quicker than 60hz n about 7㎧ quicker than 75hz
@@ameliabuns4058 240hz vs 144hz isn’t as night and day noticeable. Unless you’re back to back resting them then they will look basically the same. But even then, when playing on a 240hz monitor there’s just something so good about it you wouldn’t know what it was if you didn’t know it had 240hz. 60hz vs 240hz isn’t even a competition though.
@@Chevsilverado oh I never seen them IRL but I can ssume. I'm happy at 100fps tbh on my 144hz monitor.
I’ve never met anybody that could play Doom without dropping a few f bombs
you should disable motion blur for this kind of test
That's an interesting point. However I was trying to test it with normal graphics settings, to see if in a normal gaming situations it was clear which was which. I didn't want to turn off something I would normally leave on just for the test.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I'd be curious too to see what the test results are with it deactivated. You had more experience and knew what the look to for, where as Anna got about half of them right in her test and then got to them all right after she figured out what to look for, and it wasn't until she figured out what to look for that she noticed any difference.
I think another good test of this would be to get several players together for some pvp, and each round, without their knowledge, change their refresh rates to see 2 things. One, can they tell the difference. And more importantly, does it actually affect game play. I think the latter being the bigger issue for people with refresh rates. with a fair amount of tests and looking at each players average scores playing at the higher refresh rate vs the lower you could see if the fresh rate actually had an effect on they're ability to play.
@@randydecker7015 That is an amazing suggestion. I really wish I had the resources to do a test like the second one you suggested. That would be a great way to gather some real information on this topic.
Thanks for the awesome suggestion.
@Thomas Foster Oh okay, I'll definitely try that out.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff motion blur is for consoles, if you can reliably hit 60+, there's no need to keep it on
Get her playing a game for 15 years on a 60hz screen, then switching to a 144hz one, then ask her..
toaritok r/wooosh
@toaritok r/nobodyasked
@@ugolattanzio9152 The original comment isn't a joke.
I agree, it defeats the purpose
I've been playing on a 60 hz monitor for at least 20 years and still can't tell the difference between 144 and 60. You guys are just imagining things.
This video is so well made. I love that they don't show it in 60Hz vs 144Hz in slow motion, which doesn't tell you anything about which will actually feel better. Not allowing the user to know the actual refresh rate makes this the most valid video I've seen.
are u mad lol
@@kungebbe1672 ???
"Doesn't tell you anything"
This take is so dumb, typical "but don't see it at 0.5x speed with our eyes, so this test is useless"...
Omg this is so frustrating seeing these comments
One of the biggest downsides to the move from CRT to the original lcd displays was this. Most all the bigger quality CRT displays would do 90Hz or more. Yeah, it was ancient tech, but it is still better in this respect to many of these new lcd displays 20 years later.
well sacrifices needed to be made
"This is so smooth!"
Me watching in 30 fps: huh
TH-cam can only render 60fps, so you're not missing out on much. I'm on 240hz but we are only viewing TH-cam videos at a 30fps difference.
*24
@@SantiagoMonroy5 No?
Click on stats for nerds, you can see its exported at 24fps.
@@okaydetar821 if it says 60 next to the resolution obv 60 FPS and if it doesn’t say that, 24FPS is the case
I can definitely tell the difference..and I can never go back to 60 hz lol
When I look over to my 60hz monitor after using my 144hz I think there's something wrong with my computer.
There is clearly a big difference but 60hz is still very smooth and is not like you can’t go back to it.
@@Raulxz I hear ya..I still play MGS 5 The Phantom.and it's Great..
@@Raulxz no you cant
Ok if iam playing with 60 or 70 fps . Would the 144hz screen be useful?
Amazing video, I've been hearing about 60 Hz and 144 Hz displays for so long and it's great to see how people react to these different refresh rates
2:45
The best part was the classic new gamer catchphrase; ''ooo what's that?!''
ye, my wallet feels a difference too.
Who cares, it does change very much to a real gamer.
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LMAO LMAO I feel u bro.. when I see my money went half in my bank I’m just like bruh
@@Joker-fl5bv "real gamer" lmao people need to get off their high horse.
@@JeanCarloz1 bro, atleast 144hz or you will see the difference, if your trying to win as most games as possible, and try to get into esports and this stuff, you must have 144-240hz monitor
Just by moving the mouse on the desktop and dragging windows around you can feel a big difference
what
@The LiiTe nice one you really cleared up any confusion i had there thanks
Yes it's true
I had a 60hz monitor and I gotta say that jumping to a 240hz monitor is insanely smooth and even 165hz looks stuttery to me now.
@@chixens5713 60 to 240! U must had bought a RTX 2080 Ti
Very helpfull video in a time when I'm prepering to upgrade my gaming rig. Thank you very much. Instant sub.
The thing that worries me is if I start gaming on 144hz it'll obviously feel amazing at first but then I'll get use to it and 60hz will end up looking like a downgrade. It happened when I first started gaming on PC after playing only on consoles, 60FPS blew my mind when I would see it on my monitor/TV. Now I feel like I could never go back to playing below 60FPS and yet my siblings are happily enjoying playing games at 45FPS on console while I'm here researching 144hz :(
i got so used to 60 that the moment i switched to 144, my eyes literally noticed every single thing like dafaq.
I think this is a good time to share with everyone that I'm playing Rise of The Tomb Raider at 10fps 🙃
Edit: I recently built a good rig. I am able to game well now.
Oh ya, try playing csgo at 15 and gta V at 2
And minecraft at 20
Swastick i0i WIZARD Jesus dude that’s so bad haha and cs:go ain’t demanding at all
@@shaneg5630 even I have more than 60 fps on CS with a LAPTOP lmaoo (it's a pretty good one, but still Minecraft lags a bit on it, but never csgo)
@@shaneg5630 lol Ik right, I have a budget laptop from 2013, with and amd A4 apu 😂😂, my 2 year old pocophone f1 is litterally twice the speed of my laptop
My old PC struggled to get over 40 FPS in the games I played and when it was fewer than that, I definitely felt a difference. 40 FPS still felt a bit sluggish. When I upgraded it and got 60 FPS (couldn't exceed that due to my monitor) it felt SO SMOOTH. I couldn't believe that more than that feels better because it seemed perfect. Recently, I upgraded to a 165hz monitor and I instantly felt the difference. In my mind, it's worth it. Going back to 60 FPS isn't as bad as going from 60 to 30, but it does feel a bit choppy. If you asked me back then, I would say that when it comes to online FPS games, then 40 would be the minimum, but now I would say it's 60. 60 is well playable, but 100+ is definitely better. Even things like scrolling down a webpage or moving windows around feel much smoother.
Play 40 fps on a 120hz monitor and it feels like 60fps.
after many years, I finally am going from 4k 60 fps to 4k 144 on friday. It was 800 dollar monitor thats only 650 now on sale at best buy Gigabyte M32U. So I am excited for price drops and 144 fps now that I got a blessed by God with a great pc, 7700x with 7900xtx gpu. SO excited and thankful.
I'm super excited to be getting my first EVER 144hz 27 inch 1440p monitor this week! Until now I've been playing pc games on a 55" 60hz 4K tv, which although had a decently small imput lag for a tv is obvously not the same! I have a feeling it's going to be one of those amazing never going back experiences. Can't wait!
When I first got a 144hz monitor, I didn't see the difference. But then after maybe a month I tried seeing what 60hz looked like and now it looks like a huge difference and I don't want to ever go back to 60hz.
VØłĐ fuck the human eye
@@voiq1764 Hope it's a joke. Try it by yourself and you'll see.
@@maxchopin409 He's joking. 100%
yeah I know that feeling. Your eyes perceive a specific framerate as smooth because you get used to it so once you go to a faster framerate you instantly adapt to it being smooth and pretty much having the same experience as the old monitor, but once you roll back and you're used to smoothness you feel it being sluggish.
@@___Robin___ Yeah that's exactly how it feels
I’ve played on 60 my whole life, and I went to 165, It felt so smooth and amazing
165 is very specific
Mohammed Zada not really u can get 165 hz monitors everywhere
Mohammed Zada 165hz 1440p is a pretty good monitor
Same! When I got a 144hz monitor I was just moving around in the game just amazed by how smooth and huge of a difference it made
I played at 60 my life life I think it’s time to change
the first experiance i had with high refresh rate monitor was my first high end gaming laptop, the rog strix scar 3 with the 240 hz panel 3 ms response time before that i was using a 60 hz laptop (with a 980m so it could game a bit) and i almost cried launching dota 2, going from barely hitting 60 fps to hitting 150+ was mindblowing.
She supposed to be a noob but she says “ITS A HIGHER REFRESH RATE!”
Maybe she learned it at school
@@wintutorials2282 no she literally heard it when he explained it to her 5 minutes before the video hahaha
@@blanco7726 oh nvm lol
@once_upon_a_time in_a_land_far_far_away doom is a word
Yeah. Is a fake clic bite video.
Meanwhile Ubisoft "30 fps feels better for the players." Anyone remember that nonsense? =)
"Its for cinematic"
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But a lot of people actually do feel this way. People are so used to having 24fps on television and film, that when they see them in 60fps, it can look very weird. With certain single player games like Uncharted, that are almost like a film in a way, some people actually prefer 30fps since it feels like it adds more weight and makes it more like the experience they know. It really does make the experience more cinematic. I'm not saying that 30 is better than 60, just that it's not "nonsense".
Nowadays lot of people just jump on the hypetrain and simply think higher = better and disregard any disagreement, or reasoning that lower could actually be better.
Twyzan nobody has ever played uncharted at 60 FPS so they wouldn’t know. Take a poll among pc gamers as to whether they would prefer higher or lower refresh rates, I guarantee 95% of them would say they prefer higher frame rates. There’s no point asking console gamers because they don’t have a choice and most probably don’t even know there’s a difference. 24 FPS (and it’s 30fps in tv) in film is not a fair comparison as there is a substantial amount of motion blur, not to mention the viewer isn’t directly interacting with the image.
Its true that some people prefer the cinematic feel of the 30 fps. Its not a joke. For example movies and tv-shows would look ridiculous in 60 fps 😁
It is only double blind if both the tester and the tested do not know. A third person ought to be setting the refresh rate.
Yes, I have gotten a bunch of these comments. I just used the terminology incorrectly, I should have said single blind test. It however doesn't effect the test results, I just don't English good. :P
@@DawidDoesTechStuff don't worry about it mate. Your English is fine. Everyone makes mistakes. Just make sure to learn from it and improve :)
Graanday profile pic?
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I was thinking that too. Double blinds exist for a reason tho. So it would most certainly effect the test results, tho if that'd be to a noticeable degree - I have no idea.
In a way, one of the trials was double blind because the girl thought the setting was different than it was.
It was pretty interesting experience!
Did know, that it was so hard to identify 144 vs 60 Hz for a people, who don't game so often.
It's probably a familiarity thing. I played a lot of Geometry Dash when I got a 144hz laptop from 60 previously, and I could barely tell going up to 144. However, after a couple months, I tried 60 again, and it was night and day. I could even tell my phone's refresh rate felt chunkier after.
awesome Video Idea! thanks for sharing this with us!!
Took me a few seconds to realize I can't see the improvement from 60 to 144Hz because I'm using a 60Hz TV.
I'm a big dumb dumb lmao
same here :P , but i watched this because she is cute :P
Happens to the best of us... I hope. lul
you actually can see the stutter because even both are 60hz they are again in additional desync.
so even it may halfway ok for the player on video this looked unplayedable.
the video is 24 fps
Yotube.
‘Ah! I’m dying!’
*runs* *away*
Me: that’s the opposite of how you play doom
U ush
i just got a 144hz ultra wide and use my 60hz for side tasks like discord or chrome and i definitely notice a difference in the mouse movement. that’s where you feel it most for sure just random scrolling around
Excellent video! Really helpful for my decision. Special thanks to the cat for its input.
I have seen a couple comments where people say that the FRAPs counter in the top right of the screen clearly gives away the frame rate which ruins the test.
The FRAPS counter is there to show that the game was running at the same FPS for all the tests and that the only variable was the refresh rate that the monitor was set to, like I showed in the start of the video.
On a second note, people have been pointing out that I use the term "double blind test" incorrectly. This doesn't effect the test results, I just used the term incorrectly. What we did in this video was technically a single blind test, because the tester knew the settings.
Thank you very much for watching this video. If you enjoyed the video please subscribe and check out some of the other videos on my channel.
It's been a long time since I've used Fraps for screen cap, all it ever showed me that my actual fps was much lower than my machine was actually capable of.
You should've hidden the fps, but capped it at either 60 or 144fps depending on which refresh rate it was running. You also should've tested it on something other than a dark video game. For example, just moving the cursor around in windows.
it think the counter gives it away when in menu...it drops to 60 and when in 144mode id does not
I am not sure about your set up but the menus always show 60fps (built in game counter) on the menus. It isn't until you are actually in the game that it shows higher frame rates. So I am not sure you're seeing something different in the menus.
@@Lojzze well she doesnt knw that.
theres two types of people in this world:
*ones that can see the difference between 60Hz and 75Hz and the ones that cant tell the difference between 60Hz and 240Hz
And there is me ........ one that's never experienced 240hz gaming.
@@LIVEFRMNYC me too i play on 144hz
You only can see the 240hz when you have fast mouse settings
I just played on 60Hz.. I really hope in future i can afford a 144hz configuration..
How can you tell the difference if you never experienced more than 60 Hz? I hope it stays that way, keeps my wallet healthy :D
I grew up when all that "home computer" madness started and I remember the CRT times back in the 80s (320x256@50Hz) and 90s (up to 1280x1024@85Hz), didn't like the TFTs and the early LCDs (TN) and even don't like 60Hz IPS Panels - but now I'm slowly beginning to like 144Hz Panels that are starting to handle smearing (today we say motion blur) in an almost reasonable way comparing to the old CRTs which were great in that regard. And I appreciate the high FPS a lot.
Reminds me of when my brother bought an iPad pro with 120hz display. When I went to visit him one day and tried it, it felt oddly too smooth (i wasn't aware ipad pro's had high refresh rates and it was my first time I tried 120hz) and I asked him about it and he didn't even know it had it until I looked it up to make sure, and he already had a few weeks with his tablet.
1. Hz and FPS are not the same thing.
2. Double-blind means neither the proctor nor the testee knows the variables.
3. Disable motion blur
1 Hertz: 1 Cycle Per Second.
1 Frame Rate : 1 Frame Drawn Per Second.
Not the same per se. But interchangeable in the context of Frames Per Second. Both units measure something that happens per second. One is generic and can be applied to many things, the other is specific. You could say that Frame Per Second is a child of Hertz. :P
@@TheMedievalNerd I was about to write the same XD
@@TheMedievalNerd If I slap you at 10 SPS (slaps per second) it still hertz, so they're the same.
@@vect0r858 If you'd slap me 144 SPS and the "monitor" that it was being played on was at 60 hertz, then you'd only see 60 SPS
In this instance you´re both wrong and right about the first one, the difference is that the monitor allows the gpu to push more frames per second as the maximum amount at 144hz normally unless it´s running extremely well where you can see nearly 300fps in old titles such as original CounterStrike and so forth.
You get used to 144hz and 60hz look like 30 after a while.
Which begs the question, why go 144 hz in the first place?
@@Keivz It feels smoother than 60hz yes if you never upgrade you'll never notice but you will be able to track things easier, etc
@@sergeantlightning6178 I can appreciate that. I'm not a competitive gamer myself though I do own a 144 hz display. I have on one occasion (DMC V) found it easier to play on the faster hz monitor but otherwise I've been unimpressed by and have failed to appreciate the technology.
@@Keivz for me it doesn't
in fps games its noticable but on sports game like nba,nfl,fifa not really
Fantastic video, thank you!
Thanks for the video! It's hard to tell how impactful these specs are when you are making buying decisions.
I think she should had focused on movement and aiming at moving objects too since she maybe didn't really know what to look for (since she thought she was playing faster =P)
My first thought: "Oh no, don't ruin this nice girl's innocence by making her play *DooM*."
First thing she says: "F***!"
Me: "Oh, nevermind."
White knight
Lol 😂
@@luc407 that's not knighting..
nice girls innocence??... weird assumption bro
this is the most WeirdChamp shit
I recently switched from a 32" 75Hz monitor to a 27" 144Hz Gsync monitor and I noticed a massive difference straight away, especially in Call of Duty and Battlefield both at 1440p and yes I have an nvidia card
online commpetitive? of course/ but single player? if you have 4k i thing are more beautiful on the eye even though 60 fps
When i got my new 144hz 32" monitor after playing on 60hz laptops for years, my first shot taken in a game was a 180° flick headshot. It literally gave me the kinda aim i always thought i am just too bad to have.
I had the same experience on rainbow six seige after getting a new PC that could run the game on my 144hz monitor. I started clutching and dunking on people in ways I never thought I was good enough to do.
Holy Cow his last one being inccorect and then finding out the setting were not applied was such a rollercoaster of emotion I felt like I was watching a reality TV show.
Playing an early FF game will melt your brain then
i noticed the difference from going 60hz to 144hz right away and its drastically changed my gaming experience. its been one of my most favorite upgrades ive ever had.
I remember the first time I booted up Minecraft on my new gaming laptop, it was the first game I had played on this laptop..
I was speechless, it was so smooth I was just moving and looking around, staring at things.. I couldn't believe how smooth it was- I had always been content with 30fps, and the immediate shift up to 144fps just made me feel spoiled..
Funny and informative one. Thank you!
"It feels faster" that's usually what I hear from people changing monitors lol Really cool test and finaaaaally I can hear your voice well and the background music with my headset ;D good job! Cheers from @Omniatech
Haha!! How to summarise high refresh rate in three words "it feels faster"
Thank you, I'm glad I got the levels right, I had to rerender it like three times. :P
any one else from "not an apple fan" ?
Me!
That's awesome!! Welcome to the channel. Tell Paul I say Hi :D
Yep just subbed and turned notifications to Dawid's channel after I watched NAAF's video this morning :D
lol didnt see you 😂
@@beanshady Thats amazing. Thanks man. Welcome to the channel. :D
When I first switched to 144hz from 60hz I didn't actively notice a huge difference until I played something at 60 hz again, and it was absolutely jarring.
Exact same thing here, didn't notice much of a difference, but once i looked at my old monitor it felt awful
Lol, I blew a snot bubble there as I thought you said "shaving Anna on the internet"
What really bugs me is that you still haven't removed the safety sticker from your cases glass panel...
Might not be a good idea. I removed mine and now theres the nasty sticky shit left over
@@JerryChapo hot water and soap; let it sit for a little bit, maybe a minute in between scrubs. use a soft cloth and rub it hard, it'll come right off.
Jerry Chapo mine came of super clean
isopropyl alcohol will do the job within seconds ...
burn it
Absolutely no problem I’ll just download another 75Hz tonight
You can oc your monitor a little xd
Simplest of tests (and best way to show the 'actual' difference):
1. open any window/folder e.g. explorer window to around 1/2 of screen
2. Left click and hold top bar...
3. Now move window around screen, slow to fast. Do this on 60 and 144Hz modes. Pay particular attention to the window edges and text - smooth movement, readable text or not?)
Results:
1. If you notice the 144Hz screen to be much more smooth - you passed.
2. If you didn't see any difference - repeat the test, this time opening your eyes.
In games, if the fps is close to 60 then you will NOT be getting the 'visual' smoothing benefit. Your game fps NEEDs to be as close to the monitors "144" refresh rate value for maximum high refresh rate benefit.
The effect is the same as panning a video camera around a scene at 60fps, then at e.g. 120fps - once you play both back you'll instantly(!!) see the higher fps video to be much more smooth and detailed. Same thing with a camera shutter speed when photographing a moving car - slow shutter = blurry, fast shutter = sharp image. An object flying across a game scene will look it's sharpest if the positional updates per second match the game engine, and also match the monitor refresh rate. Scale this up to Doom and you have the same thing.
What about in open world games? Is there a big jump in your experience? I don't care about first person shooter games and don't even bother to care about this repetitive "competitive" argument that is everywhere every time I tried to search the difference between 60hz and 120hz or higher, not that desperate to win in fps games.
quick question; did you adjust the overdrive when you switched refresh rates? the gtg on this panel can't always keep up with the refresh rate on this monitor regardless (manufacturer's specs are actually useless) so if you use a monitor with faster, variable overdrive then it might be more obvious. Without overdrive, it's smoother at 144Hz, but it smears. The overall clarity is better, but not by as much as it could be.
Generally if you're moving up you don't notice. Once you've gotten use to it then step down, it's hugely noticeable.
The difference is massive. I remember when I got my 144Hz monitor and when I plugged it in I decided to load a map in CS and see how it feels and to be fair I saw the difference and I liked it a lot but I was kind of expecting something more and was thinking if that was worth the money. A few hours have passed and from running around on an empty map I played a few matches(and not to brag but I am pretty good at CS and have a very twitchy way of aiming). OH BOI the aiming is just so much better. The movements are very smooth and switching to 60Hz feels like you actually see less of the animations that happen on screen(which you actually do see less as less frames are displayed). 144Hz allows for faster reaction as you simply see more and at least I feel like I can be more precise with my aim, probably since I see more frames and have to do less adjustments. But I don't know if my dad would see the difference. He plays games but he's a filthy casual and he plays Battlefield V in about 20fps and says it's fine whereas I cried inside just moving the mouse around.
In conclusion, someone who is a gamer, not a casual but not necessarily a pro either, will notice the difference right away. I do feel however, that the change is the most noticeable in FPS games(and maybe racing games but I only have 1 so it's hard to say but fast reactions are also present in those)
I know it's almost a year later, but I just upgraded my 2x ASUS 60 hz 1080p monitors for 2x ACER 144 hz 1080p monitors and the difference is massive. Even in Windows it's just nice how smooth the mouse movements are and in video games, its awesome.
I use an ACER laptop for work and it has a 60hz panel and it is very noticeable after just a week of the new monitors. Still totally usable, but such a nice upgrade to get and as Dawid said, if they're still 1080p panels that you get at 144 hz, it's very doable to get higher frame rates.
I've been using DVI on a GTX 750 and the ACER (Gsync compatible, not proper Gsync) 144hz 1ms response time. I changes from some Dell 60hz 6ms response time monitors - humongous difference. Have to play with the NVIDIA settings a bit, but it's huge.
Interesting tests!
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Reminds me of getting 120Hz on my 77" OLED for Destiny 2 PvP. Such a huge difference.
60 and 144 is literally night and day for me.
@Kresimir Baric the what
@Kresimir Baric 60-240 is extremely noticable diff but 144-240 not as much too. Depends on the budget if it's worth it
You're a good consoomer, keep it up.
@Kresimir Baric Going from 75 to 144hz has the same effect, you won't regret it. Just don't get a TN panel which has bad colors.
bruh i wish i could experience a 144hz monitor all my life ive been using 60hz
Now that I finally have some budget to buy a 24" 1080p (best I can afford) 144Hz monitor I really can't wait... I'm playing on a 32" 720p 50Hz screen, I need to be at least 2 meters away as to not ruin my eyes permanently lol.
I’m doing the same thing expect I originally had a 60hz screen
@@HeenaPatel253 save for 1440p 144hz it is much better:)
@@____________sdfaverdavb so much better or ok
@@____________sdfaverdavb you'll find a 1080p+144hz monitor for the same price as a 1440-+165hz
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The other main difference apart from gaming and graphics to tell whether your monitor is 60Hz vs 144Hz, comes from scrolling documents or webpages. Generally if you have a 144Hz monitor, scrolling will be a LOT smoother. If it's a 60Hz, scrolling will seem to jitter if that makes sense. Take the new iPad Pro for example (the 2022 model). While it isn't 144Hz, it can go as high as 120Hz, which is INFINITELY better. You can definitely tell when scrolling.
We Have the same PC case. I just bought mine Sunday.
I changed my setings on an old CRT monitor from 60hz to 85hz and I felt my eyes much less strained, it was truly noticeable. At 144hz it surely would feel silky smooth.
Low frequency gives some people headaches, and if you use glasses it puts more strain on your eyes.
My score with aiming in Aim Lab increased immediately by about 12 000 points when I switched from 60Hz to 165Hz monitor, so the difference is quite huge
I remember when I went from a 120hz TN to a 75hz IPS. The upgrade was good, because the image quality difference was insane. But I had to use the TN panel again and I totally forgot about the higher refresh rate. When I started playing I was like "ouch, there is something odd here" and then I realized that haha. But I still use the IPS 75hz due to quality image, colors in TN panel is too weird.
Great video! Playing now on 74 hz with a RTX 3070 and it feels no much different from my old RTX 2060 Super in some games. The picture hangs in for exsample F1 2020, so I hope to get a 144 hz one day.
You have a rtx 3070 which costs way more than a 144hz monitor. Hopefully you have one by now :)
I love how we are all moving above 60fps baseline but consoles are all still stuck around 30fps
No this is untrue
Well the next generation consoles look like they're going to be doing 60fps now. So I guess the whole "you can't see past 30fps" argument should be going away at least.
WAFFAHOUSE this didn’t last
Aslan yes he is a fraction of games run 45 fps
@@breakaway7017 gta runs at 20 on ps4
"No swearing, Anna!"
I like Anna.
The most important thing is to switch on the V sync in the nvidia menu and in the game if the game supports such technology.
9:50 Vindication has never tasted so sweet🤣
8:43 “Yoh, it almost makes me dizzy.” 🇿🇦🤣
You put the timestamp after he said it
someone who actually does a test fairly thank you. good videoo
I had the same experience with her. I've been using 60Hz monitor for the longest time in my life until 3 months ago. The first time I saw 144Hz was at Best Buy when I was looking around for fun. I recognized 144Hz immediately, but when I went back home, I didn't feel the choppiness. It wasn't until I own one myself and have a side monitor that is still 60Hz that I can tell the choppiness after spending a lot more time on 144Hz.
What about in open world games? Is there a big jump in your experience? I don't care about first person shooter games and don't even bother to care about this repetitive "competitive" argument that is everywhere every time I tried to search the difference between 60hz and 120hz or higher, not that desperate to win in fps games.
I think the difference is more in the feel than how it looks. Higher hz means lower latency. At 60hz you are just used to controlling it with the higher latency, learnimg to compensate for it through experience. The higher hz allows you to bypass the mental hoops you go through subconsciously to control the game.
Wow well said! Bro I play call of duty alot and my Kd is 3.5 on 60hz which is really good I ordered my 120hz monitor for ps5 I’m excited I’ve seen comments say they won more gunfights because lower latency and u see the guys slightly earlier . Would you agree with that? Will I be able to fell the difference?
@khalilcruz5816 From 60 to 120 yes you'll see a big difference. I'm on 360hz on pc. Difference from 144 to 240 and 360 is less but still better. What happens is your monitor always refreshes at the same interval. More fps means more chance one of those frames will land closer to the monitor's refresh interval, leading to lower latency.
Like Paul from 'Not an apple fan' suggested today you should have way more subs, you guys are great!
Thank you very much. Hopefully one day. :D
came from there too and now i understand why he its right, it made sense... had a similar experience when jumped from console to pc
Thanks man dawid is great been watching his videos for almost a year now
@@notanapplefan :D Same here, I've been watching your content for a while.
I Love how many times you have to beep her. 🤣 Anna is the best noob ! 👏👏👏
The main difference is latency and screen tearing. If u run vsync or fast sync u probably won’t notice while watching it but you’ll notice the latency difference
If u don’t run any sync software there’ll be a lot more screen tearing in the 60hz monitor
Depends really on the game. In games with static camera, it is really hard to tell and I'd argue that it doesn't even matter. But in games where the camera constantly moves (such as FPS games) it's really obvious. Expsecially if you need precision for shooting.
You have a lot of life in this video. It was interesting and exciting.
My OCD gets triggered when he talks about these being "double blind" tests. They're just "blind" (i.e. "single blind").
For it to be a proper double blind test, the person administering the test has to be blind to the test setup, so Dawid has to be blind to the refresh rate when administering the test to Anna (That's why it's called "double blind").
Usually a third person is involved to administer the test, but it's not hard to do without a third person actually.. They could have a script change the refresh to a random one of the two before each test, and record it (so that it can be cross referenced later).
This has been your daily dose on testing methodologies 😉
Do you work in life sciences? Its great to see methodology anlaysis applied to gaming tests here :)
@@BrooksterMax no but I was studying for a degree is Psychology & CS (Yeah weird combo but interesting stuff). Can't forget all the scientific methodology stuff which is actually really helpful IRL, especially correlation doesn't imply causation which is how click bait articles are made...
P.S. In the later videos he did use the correct terminology so he's probably aware of the difference, but my slight OCD couldn't let this one rest :D
Not to mention they just flipped back and forth between the frame rates which is a very simple pattern.
That's TH-camr "science" for you.
@@theprogrammer1 Do you actually have OCD? I do. OCD typically isn't about being particular about terminology and often is incredibly debilitating by virtue of it being a disorder. Pedantism isn't a disorder. If you don't have OCD, could you like, stop saying that since you should know better as someone who studied psych?
Regards - your fellow psych graduate whom incidentally suffers from severe OCD
when i first got 165, the difference wasn't so apparent. after gaining some experience with it and dropping it back to 60, the experience was horrible and the difference was night and day. it's hard to tell what you're missing out on until you've had some experience with it and it gets taken away.
Then don't experience it and save money
@@yiguy5ed6ugh8h7 No it is very apparent at first. Just moving your cursor for the first time should be enough to tell. That's what I did for the first 10 minutes when I got a 120hz screen for the first time.
I noticed there were a few drops into the 130's when testing at 144hz, its an interesting confound, frame drops can possibly make the experience worse, For example a game will feel better at a constant 120 than at going up and down all between 120 and 144... I wouldn't do this in a game like counterstrike or rocket league, but in a singleplayer game I would definitely consider locking the framerate as high as it can hold sustainably for the best experience. Sometime might not be 144 or 120 sometimes its 110 or 90, generally I'll adjust settings down before I settle on sub 100 framerate, but in certain titles a locked 100 isn't bad if it means higher settings, really depends on the nature of the game, if its competitive or atmospheric.
The longer you play on a high refresh rate monitor the harder it is to go back. I recently switched back to a low refresh rate monitor and it took weeks for me to enjoy 60fps again.
My monitor changed to 60 hz without me knowing, and i thought ive lost my csgo skills. When i switched it back to 144 it was a mind blowing difference.
me casually playing cs with a 60hz laptop like "why am i not ranking up"
@@rafiamirali9188 an advantage is an advantage.
@@MarksterC I'm gold nova on 30 hz,
Cam GN is garbage
@@deliviorr i peaked mge and stopped playing for a year so I think it's pretty good for a 30 hz monitor with a 15 dollar keyboard and mouse/ budget ironside
First other person I see with the dank SpinQ CPU fan ;)
I may not have the sharpest eye when it comes to discerning higher framerates, but it's good enough to be bothered by the crooked sound panels on the wall behind you.