240Hz vs 144Hz: Can a NOOB tell the difference?

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  • Today we see if 240Hz gaming monitors are the next best thing or just marketing. Can a NOOB tell the difference between a 240Hz and a 144Hz PC gaming monitor?
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  • @rajarshichaudhuri1356
    @rajarshichaudhuri1356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +429

    Dawid: 144 Hz vs 240 Hz
    Me watching on a 10 year old 19" Philips TV: Yes

  • @a.neville4216
    @a.neville4216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    "You're just playing a game that is playing really beautifully."
    That is all that matters to me.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oh for sure! Honestly, the 60Hz gaming experience on this monitor is crazy good. I guess that 1ms is putting in work.

  • @Castaa
    @Castaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    Upgraded: Anna Does Tech Stuff

    • @AnnaDoes
      @AnnaDoes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Dam straight!

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      😅

    • @moonlacer
      @moonlacer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Anna Muller UNACCEPTABLE! You aren’t subbed to David Does Tech Stuff?!

    • @ebraheembambotia1745
      @ebraheembambotia1745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moonlacer Umm.. she is?

    • @ItssMitch
      @ItssMitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moonlacer uhhh

  • @iwiffitthitotonacc4673
    @iwiffitthitotonacc4673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    Looking forward for you to do the same test with 360Hz and 144Hz when the 360Hz comes out.

    • @bartsiebelink2694
      @bartsiebelink2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      360hz is already out

    • @iwiffitthitotonacc4673
      @iwiffitthitotonacc4673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bartsiebelink2694 So, can you show me where to buy one then?

    • @bartsiebelink2694
      @bartsiebelink2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@iwiffitthitotonacc4673 I think nVidia has 1 for sale

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@bartsiebelink2694 Haha!! Yeah maybe one day. 😁

    • @iwiffitthitotonacc4673
      @iwiffitthitotonacc4673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bartsiebelink2694 Yeah can't find anything. I'm just an average consumer, not a popular reviewer, I can only buy things that are to sale for the public.

  • @dragonl4d216
    @dragonl4d216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    To make the test more scientific, you should have used an easier to run game like CSGO and capped the fps at 300 for the entire run (or any number above 240 that your system can run 99% of the time without dipping below). The reason for doing so is because having fluctuating fps is an additional uncontrolled variable that does have a tangible effect on the perceived smoothness of the game depending on how high or low it moves.

    • @cubix015
      @cubix015 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Makes sense

    • @mortennielsen5441
      @mortennielsen5441 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SOOOO TRUE !!! Cant tell the dif, if the fps dont cap the 240 hz NOOB

    • @pixelatedlava
      @pixelatedlava 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or geometry dash

  • @saibamoe
    @saibamoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You can feel it much better than just looking at it.
    The mouse aim feel is definitely where you can tell the difference.

  • @virtualtools_3021
    @virtualtools_3021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    i love high refreshrates, but i also have no problem with low framerates as long as it doesnt stutter.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Oh for sure! Stuttering is the biggest enemy.

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      60fps is literally unplayable. 120fps is minimum needed, anything lower gives me a headache

    • @ejhc9628
      @ejhc9628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Blox117 I upgraded from a 60hz to a 144hz one because of screen tearing.

    • @chamotyannis
      @chamotyannis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Blox117 For fast fps games it is but for game like tw3 or AC 60 is fine

    • @misaalanshori
      @misaalanshori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Blox117 are you sure its not just a Placebo effect?

  • @qT_p13
    @qT_p13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd say you should have included a few 60 & 120 in there because it could be easy to guess between just two options.

  • @LEV1ATAN
    @LEV1ATAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    This is BS, human eye only can see 50 dollars monitor. Period

    • @mattthemightymeme
      @mattthemightymeme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      LEV1ATAN and the human eye can only see 24fps... duhhh

    • @AznTony360
      @AznTony360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MattTheMightyMeme that’s untrue, 24 is used for movies as it gives it a more cinematic view. 30fps is smooth, but you can easily tell the difference between 30 and 60hz as it’s a night and day difference. Anything higher is unnecessary unless you get headaches under prolonged viewing. The law of diminishing return applies to refresh rate. The difference between 30 & 60 is massive while the difference between 60 & 120/144 are minute. Same goes for 120/144 to 240. You’re just using up more electricity and what you get in return.

    • @mattthemightymeme
      @mattthemightymeme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@AznTony360 my bruh I was being sarcastic...

    • @spar78n73
      @spar78n73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tony Nguyen dude I had a 60hz went to 240hz night and day. You have no idea what your saying. Linus tech tips did a test with Shroud and other pros and for the most part the difference was very noticeable to everyone. And they’re reaction times clocked in faster on the higher refresh rates. It makes a difference
      th-cam.com/video/OX31kZbAXsA/w-d-xo.html

    • @dapz
      @dapz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      The human ears can only smell 3GB of RAM

  • @socialistagenda5040
    @socialistagenda5040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "huhahhahahahaha....can youuuu cut that out????"
    *thinks to himself* "nahhh, ppl need to know"

  • @tedi5pro158
    @tedi5pro158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think the difference is more noticeable when the frametimes are better, which is 240. The input lag will be much lower.

  • @joeshmoe000
    @joeshmoe000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think you should have used a random number generator because you both tend to alternate between the two. I think a large amount of those answers were because of that.

  • @zZiL341yRj736
    @zZiL341yRj736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    144hz: yep yep definitely smoother.

  • @AlaLoupeQC
    @AlaLoupeQC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just discovered your channel, shoutout to both you and Anna.
    240Hz will probably be something that very little of us will get over the next months coming with more expensive games in terms of graphical fidelity and technology. Allow me to be cynical: if developers were to prioritize optimization over graphics, all games would be smooth.
    I'm a mechnically-driven player so 1080p with the higher refresh rate is better for me in any given situation. It doesn't look weirder, it just feels better and all games benefit from it. Something I would actually recommend in terms of testing is if a person can tell, without cheating, if the game has motion blur or not with the highest refresh rate. Motion blur is often used these days to "smooth" the stuttery feel of 30 (because it IS stuttery) and, on a personal point of view, I started to develop syndromes similar to motion sickness.

  • @jamesbolho
    @jamesbolho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cries in overclocked to 75hz 32" LCD TV 😜
    Great video, I'm always curious about this comparisons to see if it's really noticeable or if it's barely worth it.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video! It was pretty interesting to watch, especially that fact, that person new to games had better result than gamer ;D
    (Ik, people are different in terms of feeling the smoothness)

  • @marindacoleman7794
    @marindacoleman7794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What fun to watch. I love the interaction between DAWID and Anna.

  • @Drone443
    @Drone443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a sort of "disconnect" if your PC can't run the game at 144Hz to match your display's refresh rate? Or are you just missing out on being able to use V-Sync?

  • @swagfogg
    @swagfogg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Video starts at 3:41

  • @MRADOES04
    @MRADOES04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ 7:11 i just really like that overused meme it's just there but it's so funny how he is talking about how good the frame rate is and how sure he is

    • @Atlas_966
      @Atlas_966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea, I hate KEKW, VERY annoying. I should be a dead meme but I refuses to die.

  • @sachoslks
    @sachoslks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    60 vs 144 is a huge jump, the 144 vs 360 jump should be as comparable and easy to tell apart. I would love to see a 144 vs 360 test.

    • @tendatonda1634
      @tendatonda1634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not really, the difference between 144 and 360 is less than 4 ms gap between each frame, while 60 and 144hz is 12 ms

    • @Frozoken
      @Frozoken ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tendatonda1634 maybe but u can't speak on it unless uve tried 360hz. Hw unboxed said u never notice how slow 144hz is until u try 360hz

    • @bluej511
      @bluej511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Frozoken and Linus did a video with shroud and there wasn't much difference between 144 and 360. 60hz on my 144hz display gives me a headache.

  • @Sporkel
    @Sporkel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just stumbled upon your channel recently and I'm honestly baffled how you don't have more subs. Good stuff!

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you turn off the FPS counter in the corner and just play I find it really hard to notice when a framerate is 75 or 120 or 90 etc. I just stop noticing because it's all still smooth as long as you have Gsync/freesync. I can't stand screen tearing so I always used vsync but after using gsync I can never go back. I thought people were exaggerating vsync lag but it just feels BAD after using gsync. Not to mention it's so freeing in terms of settings to just have to make sure your in a target fps RANGE rather then having to turn down settings to hit your monitors max HZ to avoid vsync drop stutters.

  • @LionheartNh
    @LionheartNh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely love your videos...always fun and I always learn something. Wonderful seeing Anna in your vid testing out both hertz and bleeps.

  • @kingsizemedal
    @kingsizemedal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    "I can count!" *2 minutes later* "Six out of ten!"

    • @AnnaDoes
      @AnnaDoes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Haha! This video exposes my true mathematical ability lol 😂

  • @sobreaver
    @sobreaver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it was pretty obvious when she was simply turning around, we could see the trail in the image details, although it might just be easier for us to tell from the video rather than in real life experience. But to say it played a huge difference in gaming experience, not that sure, maybe in competitive gaming but I don't do those and I think I would've been ok with the 144Hz, I think.. o0
    thanks for video !

    • @LizzieowoNya
      @LizzieowoNya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is because this video is recorded and rendered in 30 fps, so what you see is definitely not the experience you get on a high refresh monitor and feels way more smoother than what you're seeing in this video

  • @tilburg8683
    @tilburg8683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I can't see the difference between 240 and 144 tbh, the difference between 30-60-90-120 are all noticeable to me.( when I quickly switch refresh rate in games), I really can't tell the difference between 144 and 240.

  • @atajanofficial
    @atajanofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man the video felt super dragged I was about to leave. Then finally the tests and comparisons have begun. Like my advice for better retention is to get to what you promise as soon as possible. Because many people use youtube as a search engine and need quick answers. Anyhow thanks for the video anyway.

  • @dieritze4185
    @dieritze4185 ปีที่แล้ว

    would have been nice to know how you did the test exaclty - did you switch the monitors phyically, did you just cap the framerate, or something else?

  • @Dobaspl
    @Dobaspl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know this is an old video, but I think it would be interesting to reverse this. Set it to 144 and say it's 240 Hz and vice versa. And then see if the tester will indicate the actually higher indicator as better.

  • @similaritiesendhere
    @similaritiesendhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's like gas station coffee vs gourmet coffee. You were perfectly happy spending 99 cents a cup now you're miserable unless you spend 4-5 times as much for the same buzz.

    • @PenguinNoodleSoup
      @PenguinNoodleSoup 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe if youre comparing 60 to 120/144 but you don't really need to go much higher than 144 hz

    • @similaritiesendhere
      @similaritiesendhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PenguinNoodleSoup The games that benefit most from frames are played at low settings and even the nicest gpu's are not going to push triple digit frames with rtx turned on.
      By the time any gpu can max out these monitors, they'll be 5 years old. Console game developers set the pce for the whole industry. This will be a 4k60fps gaming generation max. The new systems are already struggling with that.

  • @AK_Potatoes
    @AK_Potatoes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a side by side comparison. Double blind again but possibly having the same frame rate on both monitors sometimes too.

  • @geforcertx9236
    @geforcertx9236 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like to see this compared to 60hz 4k and 144hz. I am running a 3080 at 4k on a 60hz 4k monitor. Max FPS at max settings on Cold war or warzone is around 100 warzone. 85 cold war. Settings drop for higher speed? Is it going to be worth it?

  • @themwithat9636
    @themwithat9636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The only channel with "the beast" in every new video. Maybe doing a drinking game out of that? ;-)

  • @omaralhomsi1848
    @omaralhomsi1848 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was so adorable!
    Keep it up 😁

  • @prmayner
    @prmayner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well if Anna could tell the difference then maybe it would be worthwhile for me with my old eyes to go ahead and upgrade. Nice review guys, thanks.

  • @adox8574
    @adox8574 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly at that speed it's very unlikely that small differences in speeds will effect your game play. At that point it's more of your reaction time at that point. And my view on graphics is be a generation behind. You save a lot of money and you just adapt to whatever your at. I recently had to go back to using a 1080p because fedex smashed my 2k monitor. It sucked at first but I adjusted. About to get a new one though!

    • @ogshotglass9291
      @ogshotglass9291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I must agree. When I had a gaming laptop, I was using a GTX 1050, when the highest around was the RTX 2080Ti. It worked fine, and suited my needs with both gaming and RAW photo editing from my Rebel T6 camera, as well as video processing. One thing is for sure, it worked a lot better than a standard laptop running a Radeon A10 processor, and definitely a lot better than an Intel Pentium, which was better than an ATI Radeon processor (that's way back!)

  • @itsme99ism
    @itsme99ism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Corporate wants you to tell the difference between the two refresh rates
    Pam: they are the same refresh rates

  • @silverwerewolf975
    @silverwerewolf975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah but is not only that... when you use a lower hz you get more input lag, and if you don't configure well the override settings all goes to shit on the not native frecuency of the monitor (144hz)

  • @tales9476
    @tales9476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I would like to critique your methodology. In your tests, you run a 'control' in which you showed both 144 and 240hz, and labeled them as such. You then asked Anna to later identify them when displayed in a random unlabeled manner. While this may test whether or not it is physically possible to distinguish between the two experiences when specifically looking for a difference, it suffers from a biased focus of observation.
    Instead, I believe a better test would involve a subject instead simply be asked to rank their visual experience as 'better' or 'worse'; not specifying that the settings being changed are indeed the framerate. Further more, if the participant was a gamer, at the end, they could be asked what setting they believe had been changed.
    I believe such a revised method would better analyze the subjective experiential differences.

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At the absolute least begin with that and then ask slightly more targeted but still vague about questions such as “smoothness” etc.

    • @vivacious7276
      @vivacious7276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While there are ways to improve his experiment, your suggestion is absolutely horrible. Better or worse experience can mean a lot of things. Research questions must be VERY specific and not open to interpretation.

    • @tales9476
      @tales9476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vivacious7276 my suggestion was as specific as was necessary. I did not say 'experience', I said 'visual experience'. That is the crux of the hypothesis being tested: does a higher framerate lead to a distinguishable improvement to the visual experience?

    • @Favorline
      @Favorline 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      there will almost always be bias. people tend to think they can notice more then they can. and by telling them what is changing won't matter it will make them focus even harder to see if they can spot the difference. with clear out from all the videos I have seen people can't.
      People like to think that, oh I paid this amount to get this screen that has a bigger number so it must be better then my friends screen so therefor I have to say I can spot the difference or else I'm incorrect in it being better.
      I have seen so many of these kind of videos to the point where it is guesswork. people can't really see it. maybe a very few people with extremely good eye's can. but most won't be able to.
      And trust me people will be saying it again when you go from a 240hzx to a 360hz, or from a 360hz to a 500hz and so on. people will always claim they can spot the difference.
      it's so stupid.

  • @jake9854
    @jake9854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ms= the lower the smoother
    60fps = 16.66ms
    144fps = 6.94ms
    240fps = 4.16ms
    360fps = 2.77ms
    540fps= 1.85ms
    1000fps = 1ms

    • @CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi
      @CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so there's no need to go past 240, nevermind alot of pros have been backtracking from 360 to 240

    • @jake9854
      @jake9854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi this just mean 240hz is the bang for the buck. go past dat u ll ve huge diminishing return. if u ve 240hz, 360hz is not worth it, but if u go 540hz hell yeah its worth it! its a 2.3ms reduction! but its a $1000, and its very demanding on the CPU. we can barely maintain a consistent 540fps even in esport games like overwatch.
      also nowaday the panel type like OLED make a huge diff in motion clarity vs ips even when they ve same hz.
      final the motion reduction technology make absolutely ground breaking of a diff. the ULMB2 tech really make ur 240hz mon looks like its 500hz.

    • @CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi
      @CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jake9854 yeah its like you said, 240 is the sweet spot. 360 has no benefits, plus anything higher will also barely be noticeable, and many even noted less than that going from 360 to 480. On top of that, its like you said: even the lowest requirement esports games that can actually reach 500 fps, like CSGO, Valorant, and Overwatch, so you know games that you can tone down and not make it an unoptimized mess, can't handle all the smoothness at that level. Not without blurriness and visual artifacts atleast.

    • @jake9854
      @jake9854 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi look thats not what i said, im saying 240hz to 540hz is a noticeable upgrade. for the reason that it a 2.3ms reduction. thats like 144 upgrade to 240hz, its 2.8ms reduction.
      plus ROG Swift Pro PG248QP has a new motion reduction technology, ULMB2. this tech makes night n day of a difference, it makes fast moving object, crystal clear, u ll know their exact position, u can even spot the details of their clothes while moving fast! but the price u ve to pay is huge! $1000 for that monitor. and u need to greatest n lastest CPU, 7800X3D to maintain stable 540fps.

  • @Revener666
    @Revener666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sad part is CRT is smoother at 75Hz than any TN/IPS/VA at 144+ . Also annoying you need a 240+ to even come close to CRT smoothness

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I won't actually miss CRT, but yeah those were better days for different things.
      Still hoping there'll be actual improvements made to future monitors though.

    • @Revener666
      @Revener666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArtisChronicles yeah, it is a bit frustrating thata new tech tookover so fast and it stil is worse in some aspects.
      For example shaky handcams never bothered me on CRT.

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      not with backlight strobing to hide the pixel refreshes

  • @TheDonz
    @TheDonz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got 3 PC’s on on lounge tv 60hz, other 100hz and 144hz monitors. The 100 and 144hz I can’t tell the difference at all, both are smooth as butter. One connect to my 4K tv 60hz it’s a massive difference.

  • @imnotdavidxnsx
    @imnotdavidxnsx ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't even tell the diff between 120 and 360 on my laptop display. So I'm not surprised 120 vs 240 was difficult, and to be honest seems to be in the range of statistical error, especially given the low sample size.

  • @_sumit_1665_
    @_sumit_1665_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you suggest me which one to buy?
    I have two options
    QHD 165Hz DPI P3 100%
    Or
    FHD 300HZ sRGB 100%
    For a laptop i am going for with everything other same in both the variants except their quality of screen as i mentioned above.
    (i am going to buy Asus rog strix scar 15 2021 ryzen 7 model)
    Help me out to get the better choice over the choice of display.
    I m using the laptop for botg gaming and graphics work.

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think my first LCD was a viewsonic. It was a 19" back in the mid 2000s.

  • @innerworth
    @innerworth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was really useful thanks

  • @feeldapayne9043
    @feeldapayne9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    - Would you rather play on a 240hz or 120hz refresh rate monitor?
    - Yes

  • @greenprotag
    @greenprotag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    More bleeping Anna! My favorite. We need more clips of Anna swearing at video games.

    • @MatthewFoos
      @MatthewFoos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We need more clips of Anna and those deep Vs... Mmmmmm

  • @santosmiguel7977
    @santosmiguel7977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Then you have me, still playing with peasantry 60hz.🙃

  • @FutbolLite7
    @FutbolLite7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:27 The slide trying to make 120hz look like 30hz made me laugh way more than it should've

  • @Durbanite2010
    @Durbanite2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was expecting the Risitas meme with Dawid's results. Anna's eyes obviously have a better refresh rate than Dawid's.

  • @wertywerrtyson5529
    @wertywerrtyson5529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've only used 60hz monitors except for in the old CRT days when I used 100hz because 60hz had to much flicker on CRT. I've never thought it mattered since I dont to competitive gaming and since I play console at least as much as PC probably more and many games run at 30 even 60fps seems like a lot. I think if I bought a monitor now I would get at least 144hz but I bought a 4k 60hz monitor only 2 years ago so i am not upgrading soon.

  • @cryo_life
    @cryo_life 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    144 fps is good enough upgrade for me from 60hz... 🤣👌🏻

    • @tilburg8683
      @tilburg8683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I went from 20fps on ps4 pro to 60fps on pc, and then my old monitor broke and I see 30-60-90-120/144 but I don't see the difference between 144-240, but maybe need for speed hot pursuit doesn't support 240 but even it's ets 2 I can't tell the difference from 144-240.
      But honestly 60 is perfectly fine even a stable 30 is okay, although on low power pc's I try to get 40-45 fps.
      And thanks to the really bad fps on the ps4 pro I managed to play pay day2 on a potato at literally a consistent 3 fps.
      (But could be neither games can actually run at 240, I've only tested those 2 so far).

    • @Xeniix
      @Xeniix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@tilburg8683 i got a 240hz monitor, upgraded from a 165hz rog... i feel no difference at all :D

    • @kunan5644
      @kunan5644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Xenox just cancelled my order lol.... I'll stay with my 165fps

    • @tilburg8683
      @tilburg8683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Xeniix I mean thats upto you guys stable 30 fps and higher is technically good enough( thats better than the ps4 pro can do and a fair amount of ganes) IMO, but the higher fps just looks smoother.
      I went from 19 inch 1080P 60fps to 27 inch 2k 240fps so definitely a difference for me.
      The 19inch one was good but it kinda died so I had to buy a new one, else I would have used it for longer probably ( or well I wasn't planning on throwing it away, still haven't actually, but I would have used it for a couple more years and then used it as back up or for console, since my current one only has hdmi and display port.

    • @PsychoCaki
      @PsychoCaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Xeniix you need to overclock your eyes.

  • @mumblingshovel7584
    @mumblingshovel7584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just noticed but good job for making it to 108k subs!

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you very much! I appreciate you watching. 👍

    • @mumblingshovel7584
      @mumblingshovel7584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You made my day better, my motherboard died. Now I have to RMA it. Tried everything I could think of. :(

    • @mumblingshovel7584
      @mumblingshovel7584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dawid Does Tech Stuff it stopped recognizing my graphics card

  • @borismiscevic7480
    @borismiscevic7480 ปีที่แล้ว

    im thinkink about buying a 240hz or 165hz, i want a 240 but idk if rly need it, would 165 bjust as good?

  • @foam27
    @foam27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how are you playing Doom if Its software capped at 200 Hertz?
    you can have the monitor set for that but it doesn't mean you're hitting it, you need to put an on screen FPS

  • @ATCmon
    @ATCmon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very bold of you to call Anna a noob.

  • @PerciusLive
    @PerciusLive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im just going to quote another video on the topic, "if you know what to look for you'll notice the difference" buuuut most users wont notice it.

  • @shaun_evox
    @shaun_evox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play at 280hz 1080p 27” and i’m moving up to 1440p 165hz 27” as Warzone just looks ugly at 1080p 27”. As i’m not a professional gamer, i would love to watch movies and youtube at a nicer display and get smooth gaming experience at 165hz. This is my point of view using a 27” display. Pc specs : i7-8700k, RTX 2080super,16gb ram 3600mhz

  • @robertflorescu9193
    @robertflorescu9193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dawid, I think you have some sort of colorblindness. The colour you called magenta at around the 1:29 minute mark is actually light blue/cyan. Get it checked out mate

    • @dawidalt9532
      @dawidalt9532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you're color blind...

    • @Karrppu
      @Karrppu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dawidalt9532 Im losing my mind over this, how is that magenta? Isn't the one under it magenta?

    • @dawidalt9532
      @dawidalt9532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Karrppu I was just joking about the color blind thing. The one on top is cyan and beneath it is magenta from what I see.

    • @dawidalt9532
      @dawidalt9532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Karrppu Here's a the actual color I got from the droplet tool in photoshop.
      The one the arrow is pointing at is #067D9B and the one beneath it is #B74B86. Hope it helps

  • @SecretOfMonkeyIsland784
    @SecretOfMonkeyIsland784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have only ever played games on a 60hz 4K monitor so any of these settings would be better than what i am used too.

  • @TheTurnipKing
    @TheTurnipKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I notice it tended to be roughly the same point in testing that you both started to mess up. Presuming vsync is off, what it might be is frame dips. Everything else being equal, 240 is noticable, but if the action is busy you might notice inconsistencies in frame timing more on the 240 which makes it "feel" worse than 144. In rare instances only, Doom is reportedly very well optimised, so generally what "feels" better is 240.

  • @CoalitionGaming
    @CoalitionGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa whoa whoa. What is that keyboard?!

  • @Fjerid
    @Fjerid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the title said "Can YOU tell the difference?".
    Then I read it correctly and it still said 'you'.

  • @anderbeau
    @anderbeau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Definitely not scientific and prolly no where accurate but damn relatable, genuine and entertaining I couldn’t stop watching 😂. They’re so cute together.

    • @Fjerid
      @Fjerid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't need high speed screen capping devices to notice a difference in refresh rate. Both of them were right most of the time, so there's some truth to their results.
      I instantly notice the difference between 60 and 144. No need for science cuz i get it right 100% of the time hehe.

  • @Haddley333
    @Haddley333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    144 seemed nice but slightly overkill compared to my 75hz monitor until I had to go back to 75hz after a week.

    • @tidjane2001
      @tidjane2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'd say 144Hz is the sweet spot for a competitive gamer

  • @coastermad13
    @coastermad13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup there's a HUGE difference between 60 and 144.... I swapped from a 4k 60hz VA monitor to a 2k 144hz IPS and its like night and day. The quality is pretty much perfect.
    Although I'm not convinced my 1080ti can even hit over 200fps in most games so...
    These 240 and 360hz monitors are only really if you have like 1080ti x4 or 2080ti x2 with raytracing off and certainly no AAA titles. Because as we all know, the later the game is becoming, the harder the graphics are to render so those framerates get harder and harder to hit.
    I'm not upgrading anytime soon. 144 is plenty for a super smooth experience that keeps up with the ability of today's graphics cards and games

    • @coastermad13
      @coastermad13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ONLY difference would be E-sports titles and a few MMOs that are designed to be super easy to play for your computer. So some of these players will benefit on a competitive stage. But plain old me, nuuupe

  • @SolidRoach69
    @SolidRoach69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    30 to 60 is the biggest difference ever. 60 to 144 is still a very noticeable difference but not as huge as 30 to 60. 144 to 240 has a difference but very minimal.

  • @dwightbain8328
    @dwightbain8328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm getting a XIDAX zen 3 ryzen 5 5600 32gigs 3200 hearts ram RTX 3070 do I use 1440 144 monitor or 1080p 240hz

    • @zeni2432
      @zeni2432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the games you play and high much you value refresh rate vs higher resolution

  • @tyre1337
    @tyre1337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the difference becomes smaller and smaller the higher in frames you go because the frametime difference shrinks

  • @similaritiesendhere
    @similaritiesendhere 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn't this test be done at the same settings with a frame limiter? If that's not possible with Doom, then I would pick a different game.

  • @martythestines
    @martythestines 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My laptop has a 300hz 1080p IPS panel. The sad thing is the 3070 "Max Q" can't really make use of it. 😂 😢 Forza it can, CS GO, for some reason, no, even with the 10750H

    • @Emre723
      @Emre723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the thing, CSGO has a dramatic difference in mobile CPUs for some reason. Your CPU is bottlenecking it by a pretty substantial amount, even with a 3070 Max Q. I have a 10875H, it's pretty good, but the 11th gen counterpart gets about 100 more FPS on average on CSGO.

  • @gardotd426
    @gardotd426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing is that there are no GPUs that can run AAAs at 1440p *AND* 240 fps. If it's between 1080p 240Hz, 1440p 165Hz (which I have, but even 144Hz), and 4K 60, I'm choosing 1440p @ 165Hz ESPECIALLY with current hardware that's out. Even a 2080 TI isn't doing much of anything at 1440p or 4K 240Hz.

  • @9Sxi
    @9Sxi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't even tell the difference with 60hz vs 240hz

  • @jatinsinghal6380
    @jatinsinghal6380 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do 240hz vs 600hz! Or maybe if possible 3600 hz!

  • @peeferin9476
    @peeferin9476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So in conclusion, there's a difference but you probably won't notice it in the middle of playing unless you actively make the effort

  • @demongroovemusic
    @demongroovemusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the start of 2020, I switched from a Sony Bravial 40in HDTV to a 60hz ultrawide monitor, it was a huge jump in detail. Until that point my eyesight in the natural world was 2020, now things are blurry at mid distance. I'm worried that staring at high definition damages mid to far level detail in reality. Anyone else experience this?

    • @badmoose01
      @badmoose01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Staring at a screen doesn’t do anything to your eyes except strain them.

    • @demongroovemusic
      @demongroovemusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badmoose01 yeah you might be right, eyes a good today as I haven't been on the PC. Cheers

  • @maazsayyad5623
    @maazsayyad5623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:38 I don't know why but this gives me anxiety 😅

  • @badpuppy3
    @badpuppy3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frame rates above 60hz / 60fps are the least of my priorities for gaming. I'd rather have better black levels/color depth/native contrast on a monitor, and I'd rather my GPU power be put to higher fidelity visuals.

  • @eSnipes2000
    @eSnipes2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 75hz monitor right now but I’m not sure whether to get 144hz or 240hz

  • @rickriffel6246
    @rickriffel6246 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's hard to find a desktop PC capable of 240hz graphics.

  • @piccolo398
    @piccolo398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have to say being that up until recently (this year) when I finally finished my pc I was always use to about 30 to 60 fps on a tv from a console and of course even with the pc on a tv 60hz is the max. Then I got a 165Hz monitor and was like holy balls this is amazing. Now when I play console games Im extremly sensitive to games that dip even slightly below 30 fps.

    • @foam27
      @foam27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same!
      except anything less than 100hz

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you play games at 30fps????

    • @crazy5600
      @crazy5600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Blox117 A whole lot of console games play at 30 fps, what can you do

    • @mattfm101
      @mattfm101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Blox117 I play games at 30 fps I have done for years especially 3rd person games

  • @karanbrar3552
    @karanbrar3552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg such a diffrance!

  • @ellenvillebluedevil2359
    @ellenvillebluedevil2359 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why does he sound like Dark Helmet?
    "say goodbye to your two best friends...and I don't mean the ones in the winnebago!!"

  • @vijaykumarkapoor8240
    @vijaykumarkapoor8240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOOD VIDEO SUBBED

  • @SubKiller
    @SubKiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    enjoy a good laugh from here onwards 6:25. 😂😂😂😂

  • @josephnicholas9512
    @josephnicholas9512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what was that graphic where the image got worse with 144hz.. lol

  • @beny6920
    @beny6920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:45

  • @jatinsinghal6380
    @jatinsinghal6380 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please definitely do 240 fps vs 300 fps because the military says that 220fps is the limit of human perception!

  • @bloodyfist2225
    @bloodyfist2225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just ordered a 144hz montior I’m excited for high refresh experience lol

    • @mineclanz
      @mineclanz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bloodyfist222 won’t see much of a difference until you go back to 60 😂

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah there is no going back. 😁

    • @armanis1234
      @armanis1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff I did 😅

  • @merrick51
    @merrick51 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol why did I sit through a 5 minute segment about a test that didn’t make sense

  • @das51d1d
    @das51d1d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so 11 months later, time for 360hz vs 240?

  • @sadeyestrash2217
    @sadeyestrash2217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    karen: 4:14
    also karen: 4:49
    #noOffense

  • @curtisg8399
    @curtisg8399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey can you please do “Can a noob tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p?”

    • @balake1879
      @balake1879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro that's stupid almost anyone can tell

    • @curtisg8399
      @curtisg8399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@balake1879 is it really more noticeable than 144hz?

  • @DigitalApex
    @DigitalApex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently using a 165Hz monitor and I hate having to use my work computer with its plebian 75Hz. I don't think my brain can even fathom 240Hz.

  • @antoniocepaj7544
    @antoniocepaj7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know I have posted a lot or question's already, but I could use a lot information, before I actually build/buy parts my pc that I will be using in next 5-10 year's with some minor upgrade's after each 2-4 year's. I plan to use it for gaming (gta5, deadside, battlefield4/5, starcraft 2...), and 3d modeling/rendering (autocad, maya, home planner...). I only have 4500$ to spend for everything. Do you think this is good enough/compatible/reliable pc build for me + having some room to minor upgrades?
    I used partpicker list ( and only that is avaible on it).
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor
    be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler
    Noctua NT-H2 3.5 g Thermal Paste
    Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME EATX AM4 Motherboard
    Crucial Ballistix 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
    Sabrent Rocket 4.0 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
    Western Digital Gold 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Gaming OC 3X Video Card
    be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case
    be quiet! Straight Power 11 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 32/64-bit
    be quiet! 85 CFM 140 mm Fan X3 =extra
    Asus ROG SWIFT PG248Q 24.0" 1920x1080 180 Hz Monitor
    =4400$
    or should I go with this cheaper version;
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
    be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler
    Noctua NT-H2 3.5 g Thermal Paste
    Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
    Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
    Sabrent Rocket 4.0 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
    Western Digital Gold 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card
    be quiet! Pure Base 500 ATX Mid Tower Case
    be quiet! Straight Power 11 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 32/64-bit
    be quiet! 85 CFM 140 mm Fan x3 = extra
    Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor
    =2600$
    Thanks :)

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      amd is releasing new CPU and GPU later this year. along with nvidia and even intel. so you might want to wait till like december if you dont want to be last generation in a few months

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      also if you are spending that much on a PC, especially the top one, there isnt a reason you shouldnt get a 2080 or 2080ti. that is where you will see the biggest difference in gaming and workstation performance.
      and if you are sticking with 1080p you might as well get a 240hz monitor. but there are 4k 144hz monitors if you want to get those.

  • @rkornilo
    @rkornilo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha, that shirt. :-D

  • @neonix9140
    @neonix9140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn you really blew up huh last time I was here you were at 20k ish subs

  • @levyroth
    @levyroth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Noob question: can you actually tell the difference between the two when your GPU is NOT actually outputting 240 FPS to match the Hz on the screen? Is there a benefit to having a 240Hz screen in day to day use?

    • @iwnl_vale
      @iwnl_vale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You should only get benefits when playing something that is a running at an fps that reaches the monitors refresh rate