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Im sure 540 Hz is a completely new experience for everyone, however nothing will ever feel as big of a difference as going from 60 to 144 for the first time
there's certainly diminishing returns...
I take everything with a grain of salt... Since every youtuber is sponsored now a days how much of the truth is stretched... 🤔
From what I've seen Optimum has fair and balanced takes, including this video. He does mention the negatives of this monitor. Some people are more perceptive to Hz, pixel response times and input lag, so your own subjective experience may vary, but the objective data is what it is (great).@@TsaiSRK
The fella in the review advises to not buy the product in this video lol. If it's sponsored without letting the viewer know they're liable for fines and this video would be 4D chess.@@TsaiSRK
@@TsaiSRK Optimum isn't sponsored; also videos must have a flag letting viewers know it's sponsored
Try going from 60 hz to 540 hz... you won't be saying that anymore
It always gets me how competitive eSports games are keeping 1080p and TN panels relevant.
Well what other resolution are you gonna get over 500+ fps consistently 😂
With the way modern games are going, TAA etc. Most people are moving to 1440p or higher. You cant see jack sh*t at 1080p anymore.
@@JagsP95768p
a) true, b) overwatch and competetive esport.. inspired
You don't need more pixels for competitive fps games. Also almost all CSGO pros use a even smaller resolution.
imagine how insane it would be going from a 720p 30 hz monitor to THIS
imagine 480p 24hz to this
Imagine 10p 1 hz to a monitor 72 times better than this!
Imagine 1 pixel 1 hz to this😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Lock me in and throw it away 🔐
1080p sucks
6 years ago I upgraded from 60hz to 144hz, the difference was night and day, and going back to 60 fps felt very choppy (as if I was playing with 15 fps). This year I upgraded to 240hz but I couldn't see that much of a difference between 144 fps and 240 fps, sure it is smoother but not that significant. I can still go back to 144hz and it still feels smooth.
Upgrade to 360 or more and going back to 144 WILL feel very choppy indeed.
The secret is that anything above 150 fps really hits diminishing returns. 540 hz is absolutely unnecessary and much more of a marketing gimmick than anything.
@@Son37Lumiere This is exactly what people used to say about the first higher refresh rate panels circa 2011 (those were 120Hz ones)...
@@HenrySomeone Yeah....no? There is a very noticeable difference between 60 and 120, there is a minimal difference between 120 and 240, there is essentially zero noticeable difference above 240. They want you to keep spending that money and buying the latest bs with questionable benefits. Just like the new gen 5 nvme drives that can do greater than 12,000 MBps, even though there is nothing that can make use of that speed except for limited 8k video editing and server use.
@@Son37Lumiere and they dont even stay CLOSE to those speeds when transfering larger files, aka, 8k videos
I still remember when 144hz was game changing, this is incredible, 2024 is looking like a good time for gaming, all this companies gonna need to step up their game so hopefully more 500+hz monitors
Imagine the day where AAA games can reach those framerates without having a complete battlestation of a pc. One can dream!
@@kyleboonwaat😂
The problem is the game themselves not the monitors…90% of games can’t even reach this frame rate consistently
Bro what percentage of players can afford rig that can push 144fps in modern titles let alone 500? 1%? It's completely unrealistic that anyone will "step up" next year.
@@ultimate_top10YT i agree, game optimization seems to be the biggest bottleneck here
The way this guy DIY'ed his way towards the top tier of tech reviews although there are these big channels with huge teams of knowledgable people behind them to compete with, all the while continuously perfecting every aspect of his content. From specs to comparability, completeness, gaming (gameplay but also knowing what's important regarding each product), script-writing, editing, technical knowledge... this guy does it all. It's unbelievable. Also literally zero excessiveness in any sort of promotion, which is a rare sight to behold. Seems to be a genuine guy to top it all off.
If you (optimum) happen to read this, I just wanted to say that you're truly an inspiration and obviously I'm not alone when I say that your content is the best any competitive gamer can wish for. Thank you for putting all that work in. What is going on in the background to achieve this quality is not going unnoticed! Not sure if this will add to this comment, but I also want to mention that I am a very nitpicky sort of person. Still, your content is as close to flawless as it can get.
I would really like to know what sort of education you went through. Do you have any sort of background in tech outside of the rigorous research you put in in your free time? Also anything outside of tech? Just curious about the person who achieved this.
Well said 🤝
he's the only tech youtuber i truly trust these days and for very good reason
Couldn’t agree more and he’s set the bar in my mind of what to achieve in video production.
i'm positive you're not the only one who's nitpicky about technologies, because i am lol. and there's some sort of a comfort feeling being able to get an information in details about these things. who knows, maybe your comment will get pinned in the future
His name is Ali
The production quality is insane, I love u optimum, got a new sub
Pause.
It makes sense that it would take something like 540hz to really notice a difference from 240hz. For all intents and purposes 240hz to 360hz is not a whole lot. Like going from 60hz to 70hz.
60 to 120hz halves frametimes, and 120 to 240hz reduces it only half as much as the jump from 60 to 120hz. 240 to 360hz doesn't even half it, it 2/3s it. Which means the frametime reduction is only around a *SIXTH* as much as going from 60 to 120hz.
Going from 240hz to 540hz reduces frametimes a little over a quarter as much as 60 to 120hz, or a little over half as much as 120 to 240hz.
To get an at all similar visual benefit as one gets going from 60hz to 120hz, you'd have to jump straight from 120hz to 540hz. Which gets you about 3/4s of the reduction in frametime.
It really illustrates how many more frames are needed to keep getting reductions in frametimes (getting less feasible as frametimes approach zero). By comparison 240 to 360hz is almost negligible.
So basically even though producing twice the number of frames is always twice as hard for your computer, it only gives a little less than half as much benefit visually as the previous doubling.
Getting any visual benefit over 540hz at this point would pretty much require displaying well over probably 1000-2000hz to be at all visually notable since we're shaving off such small quantities of time. The total amount of time a frame is on screen at 540hz is a quarter of *difference* in time between 60 and 120hz. So you need to get frame times pretty close to zero to get a fraction of the difference.
Remember when people used t claim your eye can only see 60hz? LOL
so should I get a 240hz or 360hz from 140hz
Honestly, even 75 feels way smoother than 60 imo. Noticing that my old 60 Hz monitor had a 75Hz option (albeit at a lower resolution for some reason) and trying that out was what made me want to buy my first 144Hz monitor like 6 years ago.
calling a 240 and 360 hz monitor "lower refreshrate monitors" seems insane to me seeing how ive watched the best monitors progress from 165hz to 360hz, but this monitor is just on another level, it amazes me. it makes me exited to see what is in store for the future in terms of gaming
I was playing on a 60hz 1080p TN panel less than 2 years ago. After that I upgraded everything step by step and now I'm on 1440p 240hz and honestly the refresh rate still feels kind of overkill for me since I play single player games most of the time.
However I used to play a lot of Counter Strike in 8th grade so I decided to give CSGO 2 a go tonight to experience the full might of my Odyssey G7.
A 1 kHz monitor will arrive, IMO, in the near future.
i have 240 before, now i have 165hz and its literally same for me ! only thing wich improve your monitor smoothness and sync is G-SYNC ! without G-SYNC i cant play game anymore :D
Just wait until they release the 4080hz monitor is 2030. It's going to be revolutionary.
@@valentinvas6454 You're just like me lmao
Holy crap. This has better contrast and color range than some 2023 IPS panels. That's crazy. Good on ASUS for moving the bar forward on TN panels
From where you know you never seen it yourselfe….dont make assumptions bec of a video u saw on the internet
@@LadiesLovesClaw What? I'm the last person to do that. He literally provides the specs. IDK what you want me to say
@LadiesLovesClaw I watched ips panels being stripped of their qualities for many years now. I am not surprised to hear a fine tuned TN panel beating ips. Ips is being stripped of picture quality to make pixel response better. Ips back in the days was really impressive in terms of picture quality but response times were not good. So they dropped the colors, contrast ratio, etc.
@@almir-lq9qwyou can still see this in apple’s retina displays, which (in terms of PQ) blow every single ips gaming monitor out of the water, but they’re pretty slow.
You are watching this on youtube with less than 60 fps with your own monitor..
Interesting to hear that 540 breaks into the "looks like real movement" realm. I always assumed something close to 1000hz would be the break point.
Remember that Humans do not have frame rate or hertz. The way we see things are based in perception, higher hertz with higher frame rate the human does less calculations to convert photons to the system we made things up. There for anything higher than 50hertz we see more real to life. No matter how high the hertz is beyond 50hertz we translate things based on imagination and data that is already store on our brain, in fact a higher hertz with a proper frame rate we see things more clear because the brain does not need to create things to feel the gaps. For instance, when we see things in the darn that looks like something else, our brain is trying to feel the gap, traying to make sense because we use vision to survive. Humans see frames and hertz based on light and shapes that translante to what we imagine. A higher frame rate with a higher hertz monitor will always be better for gaming and watching tv or film. That's why I always tell professional filmmakers and videographers to never film anything in less than 24fps because we can tell the missing frames specially motion from left to right.
@@InteractiveDNA🤓
@@mareksinisterjust say you’re supposed to be on TH-cam kids bro
then why do CRT's have crystal clear motion clarity when moving at 100hz?
@@rlock8453 strobing
Plus no latency from the analog fornat makes a huge difference to feel (though not motion clarity)
We are barely shifting from 75 to 144hz FHD in Brazil. Can't imagine 540hz in the near future.
This is truly nuts to see how far monitors have progressed, and now my guy just casually rocking 540Hz!
I have watched this video 3 times now and it improves with each view
not like there's many games where this refresh rate is possible
@@bmwofboganville456You've watched a 10 min video 3 times which was just published 12 minutes ago. Pro gamer move right there.
pro gamer move, watch it in 2x speed. @@Anurag.7z
@@Anurag.7z He probably sped up the video, to make the framerate higher. I agree, real pro gamer
Those 240Hz vs. 360Hz vs. 540Hz comparisons were really cool to see, any chance we'll get more super slow-mo shots with maybe even some lower refresh rates, like 60 Hz, 120Hz, 144Hz etc.?
in 2023 you shouldn't even consider 144hz or below
@@TheSkyruxand why shouldn't you consider it? Not everyone has spare money
@@zelbow7322 being broke and buying pc stuff aint matching bruh
@@zelbow7322because 144hz has become absurdly cheap
@@TheSkyrux If you want to save money, you should consider 144hz or below. There's many people who can't tell the difference between 60 and 120. I've heard stories of people (and know someone) who thought they were playing at 144 and their monitor was set at 60hz.
6:36 I forget about the review and started to watch the tracer gameplay and this killed me lmao
Great insight and review. Gj optimum for real ✌👍
I'd love to see a "draw circles with the mouse cursor" test or quick clip with high refresh rate monitors, it's personally how I double check the frame rate and ghosting quickly.
Your recent vids make me feel like I'm watching a movie. Just how did you do that man, appreciated your crazy dedication.
@optimum. I’m looking to get a stop gap between note and the 480hz OLED. Would you go 540hz ULMB or MSI 360hz OLED?
Priority is motion clarity not colours.
Looks awesome. Gonna wait for the hardware to catch up before I think about getting one though.
Imagine going from 60Hz to 540Hz xD
this monitor can do both 🌚
I went from 60 to 280 hz and there's huge difference while using everywhere
@@Neucher I wish I could upvote this more lmao
Imagine most poeple eye can't see at 60hz at best.. .. . .. Seen a magic trick not fast enough to get the person doing the trick then eye can't process 60hz.
Imagine going down from 540hz to 60hz 💀
i remember in early 2000s when people were hyping first LCDs... i switched to it with little knowledge when playing competitive quake and something never felt the same. years later i realized it was because of going from 100hz CRT to 60hz that felt terrible. nowadays we have things like this 540hz, what a time to be alive
CRTs still haven't been beaten in response times
prices are wrong, but tech is getting there
@@crestofhonor2349thats not true oleds have 0.1ms response times
And bit-depth 😢 We had true 32bit RGB then moved to 24bit RGB with 6 bits of alpha. Even the new “10bit” colour is still a downgrade as it’s 30bit RGB.
Thankfully we’re finally getting redemption on that as well: 12bit colour.
@@crestofhonor2349 OLED is more than fine.
ive got old 60 hz monitor and im still happy with it
I remember going from a CRT with 120hz @ 1600x1200 just to get a new flat screen with an unfortunate 60hz back when flat screens came out.
My old CRT even hit 160hz at lower resolutions.
It took a while, a long while, but flat screens are getting close to what a CRT felt like.
A CRT @ 120hz would feel like a flat screen at 600hz.
There's just something about it... you can read small letters while they fly across the screen with no ghosting or any issues whatsoever.
Incredible. Beautiful review as per usual :)
Ive been used to 60hz for many years… when I switched to 144hz, I can never go back without having my eyes hurt. I can only imagine the step up to 540hz….
for a game dat move as fast as overwatch, 144hz was not enough for me , i keep losing track of target due to fast movement, but 240hz is perfect i know exactly where the enemies are. i think its enough for average players
@@jake9854 I have been going dow, I had 144hz then 240 but now I only have 120hz oled. No need because no gpu can push 4k in to +200fps
And here I am still using my ASUS VG248QE 24 in 2023 for Apex and my job. I wanted the AW3423DW, but I know that blurry text is going to give me a headache when I use it all day for work.
nice video bro. at the end you recommend waiting for different monitors to release with the same panel. do you know if you're going to review them on the channel as soon as they start showing up? oh and will you do a video on the xl2586x? i'd highly appreciate it :p
And just imagine this on an oled and even higher resolution, can't wait for next year knowing what some companies have reported they're working on for next year
With OLED response times & a ULMB 2 tech we wouldn't even need 540hz/fps for this sort of motion clarity luckily. All we'd need is 250hz+
Still high especially for single player games but really good, and we don't get the smoothness advantages
@@HybredI agree with all of that except “won’t need”. Personally I’m hoping for a future where I can play at >1000fps as there are genuine benefits to training hand-eye coordination and other reflexes the lower you go. I do also see LED flicker at 5000Hz so it won’t be real-life smooth at 1000, but mouse movements won’t lag behind any more.
@@JB-fh1bb I'm saying we won't need it for perfect motion clarity, which is correct if using ULMB 2 on an OLED display with good pixel response times.
However there is still value in higher hz, as you said (and I said) the greater smoothness and fluidity in motion is still an improve that 250hz BFI can't emulate.
I'm obsessed with how great CRTs handle motion & aliasing so I am always looking forward to advancements in the flat screen space.
The reason 1000hz doesn't excite me that much yet is because we will never be able to drive games at those framerates, this is because even as hardware improves our performance targets don't instead we reinvest those improvements into enhancing image quality thus lowering FPS again, so only way we can achieve it is with very modular game engines like Doom Eternal's that scale well which is rare and typically only found in eSports titles, unfortunately (which isn't that difficult to do, but for some reason the ceiling is raised for what the lowest settings will offer & less work is put into them)
However their is hope -- if Nvidia or AMD or Epic Games invests in asynchronous time warp for non-VR then we can achieve that smoothness & as long as we have a high enough internal framerate any artifacts caused by it will be very minimal. I recommend reading Blur Busters forum post on it, they are working with people to get this technology into games
@@Hybred Motion clarity/fidelity and temporal resolution are two different things. A CRT provides _perfect_ motion clarity at _any_ refresh rate/framerate (but is usually not operated at below 50 or 60 Hz due to strobing).
That's what stinks about Sample-and-Hold displays. You have to increase temporal resolution in order to decrease motion clarity.
Incredible technology at hand for the serious RuneScapers out there
Tim tell why when I saw your name I instantly thought of OSRS at 540 fps 😂
Clan wars gunna be wild
thanx for the sincerity! i love your videos!
@Optimum Sooo regarding to blur shown at 4:20 ... just to make sure i get it right: When using an OLED with 0.1ms (or less!) the result would be similar even if the Hz count is a half or less. For Example an 180Hz OLED with
optimum's videos' quality improving literally every single video
If optimum tech says that it is amazing, you know that it is amazing.
I can't tell the difference
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@@ms3862you are challenged
Can't wait to play warzone at 42fps on my new 540HZ screen
I think on this next milestone once we get over 540 hz I’m going to do a full upgrade of my setup. CPU/GPU motherboard and monitor. It’s insane to me saying this as someone who owns a 360 hz currently and has a good rig to begin with technology does not slow down.
This makes me excited to see the 480 Hz OLEDs coming out next year
oh boy whats the price on that one gonna be 2k?
And you will need an RTX 5090 ,this mess is endless
GPU's aren't the problem, ram and CPU are. You can always drop settings to decrease GPU utilization but the wiggle room is much, much smaller with CPU and ram.@@STEELFOX2000
@@STEELFOX2000 Or you can be happy with what you have. Of course its nice to have the latest and greatest, but if your current setup can render what you play at an acceptable rate, there's no need to constantly change.
Personally, I need like 3 more layers of Frame Generation before I can consider a 500Hz monitor, since my life isn't esports titles.
Yet I am impressed by how much a nearly forgotten technology (TN) has been pushed.
For what I value, I'll go for something with better colors, viewing angles and contrast instead and preferably without a gsync module instead. Like a 2nd or 3rd gen QD-OLED.
ok and?
the difference between 240 and 540 really makes me wanna upgrade! (my pc barely runs 120)
Every time I find ''The" Monitor I lust over... another TH-cam video like this pops into my feed and blows my mind!
Remember guys, some pros made it to esports leagues on 60hz with an office kb&m. The equipment won't magically make you GM lol, it'll just help you get your footing a little easier. Still crazy to see all the advances in this space though.
Качество используемого инструмента значение имеет всегда, в любом виде деятельности, даже если это просто хобби и с профессиональным уровнем абсолютно не связано. А вопрос целесообразности приобретения таких инструментов каждый уже решает для себя сам, исходя из количества и номиналов банкнот в своём кошельке.
It's kind of like saying, some pro NBA players made it to the NBA with $15 shoes and a cheap basketball, so your $200 shoes and $180 basketball won't magically make you Michael Jordan. Of course it won't, but it's enjoyable for those who partake in this hobby.
@@xblur17 exactly 👍
i actually finnaly broke into dimond when i went from an old 27 inch 60hz panel to a 240 hz panel.. and my accuracy stats went up along with other things... so if your above average.. which I am and your playing with a crap monitor.. then I think it will help you.. but 60 to 240 was insanely better.. its also so much better just in general when im using autocad or solid works.
@@beefwantko7269 well I suppose it does depend if the playstyle or character you're using is very mechanically intensive. Also yes lmao, I work as a BIM tech and some of these engineers work fast asf in CAD, so I see how it can apply there. Although, seems every office is plagued with outdated hardware 💀
It is expensive but certainly not overpriced. You are getting a lot of monitor for what you're paying, if you are after that sort of tech. Well done to Asus for pushing the envelope forward.
my 360hz panel on my laptop is butter smooth love it i normally play on my 240 with my desktop but i can feel the diff in how smooth it is
In fortnite, the blur with moving targets is very important to see which gun they have offspawn so I'm very happy you've included that.
Gotta love companies that put flashing lights on the back of the screen, love nothing more than not being able to see it, it driving the price up for 0 reason, and it simultaneously distracting anyone putting it up against a wall.
Anyways great video and this panel looks like a must-have for an esports pro or someone with too much money!
Reason it's smoother and it's easier to track objects is because of the strobioscopic effect, real life doesn't have strobing. persistence blur matters but so does those side effects. to eliminate persistence blur and strobioscopic effects at the same time you need ultra high framerates. strobing only deals with persistence blur and actually makes phantom array and stutter more visible.
adding motion blur will hide strobiocopic effects but then you have unatural motion blur
strobing decreases persistence blur but then you have more visible strobioscopic effects
the way forward is ultra high refreshrates and framerates with low lag framerate amplification tech at khz refreshrates no 480hz is not even close to high enough to completely hide those effects but 1000hz is considered close enough. for full human fov and fast moving objects you would need 20khz
I will await this future.
Yep I was thinking the same thing we won’t truly hit what we want until we get to 1000hz; I’d give about 2-4 years until we something like that become available.
But apparently you can’t see above 30fps according to console gamers lol
@@cameron2319 😭😂😂😂😂
@@sleepii15 OK, now let's say you have 1000 Hz. That's only 1 part of the equation. You need pixel response times to be able to keep up with that insane refresh rate (only OLED, CRT and, I think, Plasma can so far) and you also need your game to be able to run at 1000 fps. Refresh rate is only 1 part of 3.
Back when i switched to a 144hz monitor my mind was blown away at the difference, not just for gaming but even for watching film and just moving the cursor around. My second monitor is still a 60hz and it just feels awful everytime i move my mouse to it. I cant even begin to imagine what 540hz must feel like and to be fair, i even have a hard time imagining that it can get better than how it feels for me on 144hz. Cant wait to eventually get my hands on one.
the day I went to 144hz I left my smaller 60hz panel connected and spent half an hour just moving Notepad.exe around on screen and just being in awe at how smooth it was on 144hz. I showed my boss the difference, using a large Excel file with lots of scrolling and he was sold on it too, now our engineers all have 144hz but the rest of us are still on 60 hz 😭
Films are almost always 30fps tho
@@hah1738 You are actually not wrong. However, just out of curiosity i pulled up the same video on both monitors and played them at the same time, and the video on the 144hz does indeed look way smoother. Its a video of Warzone gameplay with alot of movement etc. Not sure why that is, or if my brain is tricking me. But there is a noticably difference (for me)
@@MrBa143 tbf if films were done with 60 fps and higher, they would make you sick, special effects and real movement look terrible in more than 30 frames
No videos I know of (apart from experimental ones) are higher than 60 fps though, so how you are able to see the "difference" in watching it on a 144 vs 60 Hz display is beyond me. I certainly can't.
Superb review, I will wait for an IPS Asus 27" 4K 360Hz ULMB2 or a 32" 4K 240Hz ULMB2, with a maximum $1500 at the end of the year or sooner, I currently use an IPS Samsung 32" 4K 144Hz with Samsung's ULMB and is good so far. OLED is good for 60Hz stuff so far.
Actually production quality of this video is something else
I never tried out anything bigger than 60hz, I think it would be mind-blowing using this thing
do you enable gysnc for this monitor or do you not use it and does it make a difference to the experience
Any color calibration settings would be great, i got this monitor 2 days ago and i have to say everything is so smooth and clear even without reaching 540 fps.
Given Asus' recent debacle with them not honoring their motherboard warranties and reading up on a ton of reviews of the PG27AQN for example arriving with dead pixels out of the box it definitely has me reconsidering my new gaming system build and picking everything BUT Asus. Mind you it was my favorite brand up until recently but I guess word spreads around quickly if you're in it solely for money and don't bother with proper quality control or customer satisfaction.
Wow, I've been waiting for this moment to arrive for LCD's for decades, ever since I finally had to let go of my flatscreen CRT. Amazing to see it's finally here. Sadly, OLED and high-resolution have now spoiled me, and against my better judgement, I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of motion clarity for true HDR and a higher resolution. One day we'll have an 8K, 540Hz, 0.01ms, LED-based monitor. Until then, I'll stay subscribed 🤣
A 15 kg Samsung CRT monitor has ruined an amazing desk of mine. 15 kg could seem not much of a weight that a desk can stand, but by being constantly there it's getting catastrophic. Now I'm watching at three (THREE) monitors on a single table for years without any damage to it.
*"I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of motion clarity for true HDR and a higher resolution."*
It's not just a _bit_ of motion fidelity. There is a drastic difference between the literally _zero_ Eye-Tracking Motion Blur that CRT has --- at _any_ framerate --- and the ETMB of Sample-and-Hold at 60 or even 120 Hz.
I also used flatscreen CRTs (FW900 and FP1350x) until 2018, when I was forced to replace the FP1350x with an OLED (OLED55B7A).
@@artmanrom That's ridiculous. If your desk could not handle _33 pounds_ for an indefinite time than there was nothing amazing about it. Why is that I had no problem putting a 100-pound FW900 on a desk for nine years straight?
You can complain about the weight of a CRT, but to pretend that 33-pound objects destroy normal desks is not a legitimate way to criticize CRT technology.
@@bricaaron3978 yeah can't disagree. Unfortunately my CRT died long ago, so it's not a choice between CRT and 540 Hz. It's a choice between OLED and 540 Hz, hence "a bit"
@@eggnogsaber Oh, I think I misunderstood you.
idk what's smoother, your soundtrack choice or your monitor, damnnn that editing kept me HOOKED
I wonder if I'll notice it. I run a 300hz monitor and sadly I can barely notice much difference as you mention in the beginning
I bought the asus 360hz monitor (pg259qnr) back in March 2023 when it was on sale for $300 and it's been pretty good. Great response time and speed while still having good colors and viewing angles since its IPS. The interesting thing is that no matter how many new monitors come out with insane refresh rates, pros keep going back to zowie. It makes me wonder what will get them to change.
Zowie is the goat, i will never switch to another monitor, it's just so smooth
I got an Acer 240 Hz like three years ago before the pandemic really kicked off and I haven’t needed to switch. I’ve been incredibly happy. Although I’ve never used the Lamborghini of gaming the zowie monitor.
@@bentrinker1937 you need to try, used tyo have 280hz 1440p monitor 1k monitor , 2566k just fell different man, im so much better now
@@Hem4L still you keep zowie 360 over this 540? Im concidering buying 360 zowie but this looks AMAZING.
it's because of BenQ's technology DyAc+ and overall their quality control is much better than Asus and other manufacturers
540hz and with backlight strobing?! Hot dang, that's epic. People forget that even if you have a high refresh rate (well, actually, it's worse at a high refresh rate), persistence blur is a major detracting factor from image clarity. Ever since I tried BFI with my LG C1, I haven't been able to go back to gaming without it. I'll take a slight reduction in brightness over image blur any day.
I know I’m an outlier, but I calibrate all my TVs and monitors to 100 nits. Makes BFI even more effective when the monitor doesn’t have to do huge swings.
Hey i have a 240-270 hz monitor but i think my bfi technology (elmb/elmb sync) just goes up to 120 hz so in theory i get a cleaner image but more segmented (2 clear images instead of 1) what do you think about this? i don't know if i should use elmb in apex
Who I gonna tell him about crt
@@lucasgenolini3767 Any amount of BFI is better than none. But it really is best to have it synchronized with the refresh rate because you might get visible stuttering. It is still better than no BFI, though. Sadly, I haven't been able to try BFI at refresh rates above 120hz, so I don't have a lot of experience here. You might have to do some testing and see what looks best to your eyes.
@@user-lp5wb2rb3vI loove my old Sharp CRT. Ratchet and Clank plays great on it. But I wish it had component inputs...I'll have to mod it one of these days.
For me resolution is more important than FPS, conditional on getting at least 100 or so FPS. On a somewhat large monitor (32" or more), 1440 just does not cut it anymore, you need 4k for a sufficient pixel density.
True, what use is it to have a perfect motion stable image if it's blurry in the first place. Only makes a difference when doing 180 flicks or other rapid movement. I am waiting for somewhat affordable 4k 240hz OLED monitors.
Regarding the stand, I kinda wish an option with monitors was not to pay for the stand at all. Everything gets better with a VESA mount, and then you wonder what do you do with that really cool looking metal stand that probably cost you like $50 of the final product.
This actually sounds promising, if they ever release a 500+HZ variant of this TN panel in 32" and 1440p, I'm in! I've just changed from a 1440p@144 27" IPS to a 1440p@240 32" IPS and the difference is absolutely massive, especially in competitive games.
do you see the pixels? Main thing everyone told me between 1440p 27" and 32" is pixel density drops and it isn't as sharp. Not bought a 1440p monitor yet, still researching :P
1440p 32" has the same ppi as 1080p 24". 32 inch looks worthless for me.
@@delizdony no, unless I focus on "seeing the pixels" and if I get closer than half meter away, which isn't the right distance to use a 32" anyway. Another unexpected benefit of switching from 27 to 32 is that now I can use 100% scaling, compared to 125% on the 27, and it actually feels like I've gained resolution. I totally love it and would recommend high refresh 1440p in 32" size.
Which games are you playing at 500+ fps at 1440p lol
32 inch monitors are for casual or story games, 27 is a little too big for competitive gaming which is why 24 is best
Amazing review. Actually insane how far we have gotten with gaming monitor specs now with 540hz. As good as 540hz sounds, I'm so used to 1440p that going back to 1080p despite of being 540hz will like an overall downgrade to me. 1440p just looks sooooo nice especially in Overwatch and Destiny 2.
More than 360hz i think is only for cs, were everyone play at 4:3 low res, and no one cares about quality, just pure performance... rtx4090 just to play 1280x960 and off course every setting on low
Plus less FOV. so no thanks ,I'll stick to 1440p or 4k 240hz
@@girafaamazonica70honestly more hz is better for tracking 240hz and anything higher isn’t really noticeable in stale fps games where the goal is to hold angles its only noticeable in fast tracking objects
@@joemontana2 people were saying similar things about 30 fps. I have a suspicion that as long as hz speeds are doubling, we will be able to observe a difference. When I switched from 60 to 144, I felt like I was plugged in. Like my brain had been filling in the gaps when things happened and I didn't have to think anymore to play. That was an over 100% increase in hz. I bet if I switched to 540hz, right now, I would feel even more of a difference than I did when I switched to 144hz. I bet when 1000 hz monitors come out, people will notice a difference. There probably is an upper limit, but I don't know where that is.
Got this monitor today expecting to be blown away coming from 240hz, it’s very hard to notice the difference between the 2 and if your not playing something super fast placed where you flicking your mouse everywhere it will feel as smooth as 240hz, the motion clarity though is a massive difference for me, moving targets just look super sharp and there is no blur which is great
540hz says nothing, GPU is your bottleneck
Genuinely excited to get my hands on something like this. That "real" feeling you described about the high refresh rate is something I've waited for since I was a kid! Always known tech would come to it someday. 🙂
I can already see people with 540hz monitors getting gapped by some russian 60hz warrior.
@@rdmoghaha yeah that “time vs money vs energy” meme applies
Do it
it's all poop, in a few years 1000hz monitor will be a thing and youtubers will just hop on the train to say the same thing about feeling "life like"
@@LazyLoonz600 hz is all we need. 0 motion blur and 0 lag.
Crazy how monitors have gotten. 240hz will enough for me for a while
I only just recently discovered how to turn my monitor from 60hz to 144 and was blown away by the difference yet here you are saying 240hz trembles before this 540hz. Tech is so fascinating
Discovered? You pay $$$$ for that.
@@erikouwehandcheck invidia panel check resolution u might been playing with 60
@@rinorsulejmani5097 Your talking to the wrong one, tell that to Shadowcolossus8045.
Yesterday have bought myself one. Had two 360 hz monitors before 540hz. Alienware ips and Benq tn 360 hz are really good already. I had 60/144/240 also.
At this point, playing only OW2 and Kovaak at 600 fps - monitor gives me smoother experience that I ever had. But to be honest, it will not gives you a lot of game benefits, or competitive advantage over 360. Of course it’s a little bit more pleasant to play, smoother and nicer to eyes, and overall comfort of playing is increasing. It’s super pleasant to track opponents high ranged on Soldier. But there is the reason why most pro cs players are using 240 benq.
So if you want to have best of the best - just for your own level of browsing internet and clicking heads - go for it. Just remember, it’s not ground breaking experience if you are familiar with top tier 360 hz
thanks, was in doubt between xl2566k or this one. prob going for the 360..
@@VictorV2zin only thing that isn’t good enough at xl2566k is red and orange colours - they look kinda weird. But, it can be manageable to some acceptable point in colour settings, in all other aspects it’s very good monitor
just purchased lg's new 1440p 240hz oled ultragear and i find myself caring more about those response times and clear imaging than overall refresh rate because of it, so i really see what you mean when you say you recommend waiting for something else. nice to see that pannels are starting to reach the speeds we never thought we would see
super high refresh rate is so overrated...240 hz is the sweet spot, only 1% of people who play competitive would actually benefit from 360+. Need more ultrawide options with new res (higher than 3440x1440)
The benefits will be there whether you're explicitly aware of them or not, but it is a case of diminishing returns. And as you should know, 240 Hz still has a lot of motion blur even if we're talking about an OLED. Ultrawide on the other hand... nobody benefits from that. :D@@funtourhawk
so what we need to see over the next ten years or so is 4k 600hz OLED and rigs that can drive all that then gaming will be almost like real life.. look forward to it. i love seeing how tech advances, and what benefits the different advancements offer then its up to you to choose what you value most.
When we need to measure response times in ns I’m going to be happy
we need games to be less shit first
I don't play competitive games so I would never ever use it, but I would like to see it with my own eyes.
I use an LG OLED TV, as I mainly play singleplayer games, and that has already given me a huge step up over any previous LCD screen. And I play at just 60 Hz with Black Frame Insertion. Almost a CRT-like experience.
Supposedly Zowie just announced a new monitor that uses the same panel and is also 540 but has their dyac technology (reduces motion blur) so if anyone is interested in this maybe wait for that release for a comparison
wonderful video as always, love how you almost feel bad for using that monitor! i would too with how much of an advantage that just feel like
Hey Optimum, how low does the ULMB 2 go on his monitor? Can you go down to 60hz with it? 100? 120hz? It would be useful to know for non-competitive games
@@Tosix98 I ended up doing research and this monitor specifically does not go below 360hz with ULMB 2 (why? Who knows. Makes it pretty niche) then their are some other ULMB 2 monitors that do 120hz strobed but nothing lower so far.
So sadly 60hz ULMB 2 doesn't exist yet
@@Tosix98 xHybred is indeed one of my aliases, what game do you recognize me from?
I went from 30-60 fps from my Xbox One, to 144 on my PC like 6 years ago and that feeling was crazy, but I prefer couch gaming which is why I have my PC set up to my TV as well, which was only 60Hz at the time. About 2 years ago, I bought my first OLED TV, which is 120Hz and that's when I truly noticed the difference, since my TV is my primary gaming screen. Somehow, that jump to 120Hz on my TV felt bigger than the jump to 144Hz on my monitor. Probably because of the TV being twice the size of my monitor at 55". That said, a lot of people pretend like getting used to 120-144 fps is suddenly going to make 60 fps look bad and that's just a blatant lie lol. 60 fps absolutely looks fine, even though I'm used to double the amount so y'all saying that are capping hard. It only becomes insufferable if you try 30 fps. It's why I still won't play Bloodborne until a 60 fps update is released. If that never happens, I'll just never play it
Depends on the person and display. imo 60hz is fine on a good 60hz display but if for example you have a really bad secondary monitor that’s 60hz and your main display is 144hz-540hz it really feels like a step down. That’s the best way I could put it
1 month later and this monitor is nowhere to be seen in united states
Either your desk is not balanced, the panel is heavy or they stand for the panel is too light. Every time your arm made contact with the desk the monitor moved. Not sure which it is but I couldn't tell if that happened when the mouse was lifted or not. My guess is they stand is too light or cheaply made, but not sure
Think it’s the desk, the stand looks solid at 2:37 when he moves it.
I noticed the same. I can’t stand that. Wall mounted my c2 because my desk would sometimes shake
I cant stop thinking about having such a high refreshrate in VR. That would be like the next best breakthrough. High resolution panels with pancake lenses at high refreshrates? Sign me the in!!!
Yeah, for normal monitors, only eSports players really need more than 144 or 240Hz. For VR ? ANYBODY would visibly immediately benefit and feel the difference when going to 500Hz. I think that for VR that everybody can access, without getting sick or having a headache, 500Hz (with decent timings and clarity for this speed) would be minimum. And 1000Hz would eventually be the "basically perfect" standard. We're more than 10 years away from that. But, hey, we already can have amazing experiences on VR. This just shows how far the "ceiling" is, so to speak.
@@Winnetou17 yea. Specially now that I can experience 120hz on quest 2 (pcvr) i cant stop thinking about 240 or higher
@@nimushbimush2103 That's gonna be even harder to run than vr already is lol
@@goxy287 Yea i know. thats the part that sucks the most. for tech to be able to do that we will need to wait along time
congrats on 1 million subs
even playing the recording of the monitor back at 60fps on youtube it looks incredibly smooth.
I just jumped from 144 to 240 and i gotta say it's soooo much smoother, i can't even imagine what 540 feels like.
Yea so did I but playing with a controller and no competitive shooters I barely notice shit. Stop with this hype dude.
@@zZiL341yRj736 yeah duh no shit lol.
Your controller introduces a magnitude more input lag than any monitor on earth does, and if you're playing casual games, leaning back a bit, probably not even running at 240fps, you wont notice jack shite. The benefits of a higher refresh rate are completely lost on this use case. Consider returning your esports monitor and buy a 4k oled tv instead, you'll enjoy that more.
Some people lol
It feels much smoother but he still is not a better player, not many people can even unlock the true skill to handle this hertz number, as you say it is all overyhped a bit. I would say 170hz is really all you need. The rest is a waste of energy, lol @@zZiL341yRj736
In my case i just switched to the HyperX Haste v2 8k. don''t know if its got to do with anything but i feel the input lag is close to none, making the switch to 240 was completely worth it imo.@@WamboDaJambo
@@zZiL341yRj736 nah u r undercookin, 144 n 240 r night n day of diff
Once we get to 1kHz OLED panels, I don't think I'll ever need or want another monitor.
Yeah, that's pretty much will be endgame for monitors or almost.
Nah people will always want more
5K 100% rec. 2100 1kHz microled 32 inches might be the endgame. When will we get this? 10 years from now?😅
@@bernardeugenioidk if you know this but 10 years is actually really fast for an advancement like that, and the fact that you think that is a long time for this says a lot about how ridiculously good current advancements are
and retina resolution
My PC is probably not up to the task for a modern game
but Quake 1 on this thing would be just amazing.
To any new viewers idk like to say my experience from hertz on monitors and the difference. I first went to 240hz after 60 and it was the greatest thing I felt. Overall the best for overall gamers as it’s in budget. I then jumped to 360hz since I saw both my PCs pushing it. 360hz felt smoother than 240hz, but doesn’t feel like the jump I had from 60hz to 165hz to 240hz. After getting used to 360hz I can feel a difference from 240hz and show that there is a difference from 240 and 360
You are one of, if not the only, content creator I know of that is able to grasp, test, and explain this stuff to people like me who can barely afford or understand it. To quote matt damon you scienced the hell out of this. Thank you
Damn, although games are getting heavy on frames so not every game we can experience the full potential of the monitor, only for selected games
async reprojection, godly upscaling and fake frames are right around the corner. that's when 540hz and above will really shine
realistically you are not going to get any performance benefit from 280hz high quality monitor vs this ,you can measure it or see it on tests but i would be skeptical of any difference even for pros margins of margins,its cool but feels kinda useless anyways
@@Sockem1223 it comes with quality and latency problems, so it’s not the future of gaming, I really hope they upgrade the native performance then the “ai”
its for Esports games where any higher level card can easily push Over watch over 400.. i think people are getting 600 with the 4090..and like 800 fps in cs go but yea get a Oled ultrawide for cinematic games.
price not being a factor is this montior still good for running games 360fps. how much more lag is there running it below its max refresh rate? i have the zowie 2566k now but man i hate the colors and its nice this one has way better colors and still has a good blur reduction tech. so basically does this have less input lag at 360hz then the 2566k at 360hz?
I can’t wait to experience Old School RuneScape on this !
that slow mo is crazy, i used to think 240hz was perfectly smooth, but you can see how much jitter there is compared to 540hz when you slow it down
If you slow it down enough, everything will look choppy, even 540 Hz.
At the rate technology has grown over the years their is no doubt that looking at a screen is going to be like looking through a window.
I mean honestly if you go look at 8k tvs.. with the color enhanment and what ever.. it looks better then real life.. if they had an active camera displaying what was exactly outside your window and projecting it onto the tv.. would be hard to tell unless your close to it
One question. For dual pc setups we can’t really use this yet right? Simply because don’t think there is a capture card that can go up to 540 hz. So the mismatch frames will result in screen tearing
such a nice review!
This is genuinely the best tech channel on TH-cam. Content quality is unmatched.
"I almost feel bad for using it"
Can we get a Short or something of you testing 8khz mouse smoothness on this monitor vs 240, 360hz? :o
Remember when I got my first 100 hz CRT. That was the shit. Didnt think i'd ever need anything more.
These monitors are something else, breaking physics
I’m gonna do what’s known as a pro gramer movw
incredible spelling
@@touch-- wow i need an award, 2 spelling errors in one sentence
My jump from 60hz to 240 was massive and it was quite literally game changing since I mainly played FPS games such as CS GO and R6 Siege with a hint of BF games
mine from 75 (which i didnt know abt at the time) to 165 was also pretty big tbh. like everything just felt so fucking SMOOTH. and my skill in rhythm game stuff can go way higher now too
Ive been using 1080p 60 hz for as far as i can remember and my 4k 240 hz is arriving in a day or two. I really dont get what will change other than the resolution as I never believed hz changed much but ill see hopefully.
problem #1, having a GPU that can do 540fps, unless you're playing at some low resolution.
I don't play competitive multiplayer games, so my 120hz OLED is all I need. I still play a lot of games at 60 locked and don't mind some games at 30, usually emulated. Upgrading to 4k OLED was actually a downgrade from 170hz to 120, but it never really bothered me because the response times made it feel better. That being said, I would really like to experience a super high refresh rate monitor like this.
Had a similar experience from 165hz IPS 1440p to 4K 120hz Oled. The Oled is clearer in motion due to the much faster response times. I'd love a 240Hz Oled though
There is an oled 360hz monitor i think.
@@FFeeLiTnope
Same, I have a 240hz G9 that I was using for a bit as my monitor for everything. Ended up pulling the trigger on an 120hz oled as my main monitor, and put my g9 as solo sim racing duty. The 120hz oled for the most part looks clearer due to less ghosting and smearing. That said, I'd love to see what 240hz on an OLED looks like . . .
the 120hz oled equals to a 180hz lcd in smoothness, but you don't push your pc harder to do it, so it's a win win