This sounds familiar to the cops of the recent Texas shootings. I have noticed you usually bring attention to the facts concerning mental health patients. I worked in mental health and can attest that most aren't inclined to bring pain to others. You have educated yourself and I thank you for that..
Exactly this. Stigma around mental disabilities or illness has taken a life on its own, that often even seems to lean into eugenics. It is quite saddening to see.
Obviously the problem is not mental illness on the whole. The problem is that that very small percentage of mentally ill people who are prone to violence can purchase firearms without having their backgrounds checked
As someone with bipolar it’s really hard having people automatically think I’m insane. There’s still a lot that isn’t known about personality disorders and mood disorders. It’s generally understood but mental illness is so stigmatized the second someone hears “schizophrenia “ they think the person isn’t able to be helped.
@@beckybunny7834 Perceiving a chronic illness as a defect, flaw or inhuman trait, is a detriment to all. The sad and bitter irony is that people who utilize that judgement in such a destructive manner, are exactly guilty of what they fear within a diagnosis as such.
This is the only telling of this story that actually talked about and showed pictures of the victims. Thank you for that, they deserve better than just being a side note in this tragedy.
Actually the documentary 77 Minutes has many many photos of the victims including interviews with friends and family as well as interviews with survivors and some of the press and law enforcement that were there that day. It’s readily available and completely worth the watch.
The documentary of this shooting is so incredibly sad! Hearing from the little boy that survived outside when his friends died next to him was so heartbreaking
Or the dad who covered his kids friend while the mom covered the son. The mom and son died. Or the two old people walking right in.... or how the documentary is called 75 minutes.... it's ridiculous.
Agree, I am diagnosed with mental health and if I am completely honest, we can be deceiving... sometimes intentionally, sometimes not BUT someone with rational and clear thinking needs to make the decisions if the person can't regardless of what they are displaying and most especially if they are calling a hot line or presenting in an Er etc.
I work in an ER and the one thing I’ll say that even if someone reaches out the help is not always available. Sadly, if you don’t have insurance resources are limited. I work in a suburban ER and if an uninsured person needs mental health services they can wait in the ER for up to 24 hours until we can get a bed for them. Which is not safe or productive for them. Unfortunately some states, I live in Texas, are cutting funds for mental health drastically right now.
I had to stop and pause for a minute after you said that he ran into the Post office and handed his injured baby to a stranger and then ran back to his wife. I can't imagine the shear terror of that father trying to save his baby and his wife. And then the woman he gave the baby too. I don't know why that part hit me so hard. The whole thing is terrible but that just got to me.
I thought the delay at Uvalde was unforgivable but this is a whole new level. Active shooter training should detail the incompetence in this case and use it as a lesson of what NOT to do. Absolutely disgusting. I can’t fathom the devastation to that city, families, and friends. Great video, Jiles
Just because Uvalde cops were laughably incompetent doesn’t mean every cop at every mass shooting is also incompetent. The cops here definitely weren’t expecting, trained or equipped to respond to this and this is reflected by the fact that one of the victims initially thought the shooting was a joke. It was a different time. They did what they could.
@Art of War Arm Wrestling how about sneak up to the building and pop up or wait and blast em . Do soldiers wait? I bet a civilian with a weapon would not cower 100yards away
I always found this massacre especially grotesque and hard to hear about, obviously they all are uniquely horrible in their own way, but something about the details, the killer dancing around listening to music while shooting people, all the child and baby murdering, the lack of any real motive whatsoever.
@@goldzior1128 theres a documentary about it that shows the news footage of the tragedy and the aftermath you can find on tubi and most free sites it's a rough watch though as I think you see the body of the youngest victim.
Thank you so much for taking the care to show photos and give the names of the victims. I have never heard of this horrific incident so it important to remember the victims and tell their stories. So many heroes that day.
@@StuffedBearSus I can see why you would say that and you're right. I meant those people that were mentioned in the video who used their bodies to protect children and other loved ones.
@Thou Swell Maybe ask everyone else and see how many already knew about this shooting. It's sad that there are so many in this country that something this massive wouldn't be more written or talked about.
You did an excellent job covering this story, and made plausible inferences about the conditions that surrounded this tragedy. San Diego born & raised, and I really appreciate your coverage, thank you
I was born in 1978 and this was the first mass shooting I had ever heard of. I remember thinking how tragic it was, even as a child, it horrified me. I remember seeing this in a magazine or book, and it will be something I never forget. The correlation between this and Uvalde are frustrating. Police that just couldn't be bothered to stop active shootings. I know these were fairly rare back in the day, it is still a tragedy nonetheless.
My son was born in 1981 and when he was four we drove by a McDonalds and saw a taxi entering the drive through. He said "He's going in there to kill people." I assured him that was not the case but was surprised at how much he had picked up from the TV news.
I was born in 74 and it was also the first mass shooting I ever heard of and the reality of just going about your day and a gunman coming in and shooting people. Sadly it seems to happen more often now than it did back then. I was not aware of the slow police response time though, that makes it even sadder. I always thought it happened in a couple of minutes, not 77 minutes. That's horrific.
I always appreciate how you talk about mental health more than I can even express. My family has been through hell for generations because of how poorly mental health is understood. We've lost a lot of good people in ways that could have been prevented had someone understood the reality of their situations. My sister and I both struggle with our mental health and it's taken so long to find even medical professionals who are willing and able to treat us. It's something so many people face and so many more are unwilling to understand. Thank you so much!
The same is true of traumatic brain injury, which I've had since I was seven. My neurologist dropped me in December, so I have been without a neurologist since. Here's hoping we find the help we need.
Anyone remember the Macdonald's commercials running at the time ? It was a series of ads depicting people having a " BIG MAC ATTACK " . Needless to say , the ads were pulled shortly after this tragedy .
Like Ronald himself held her husband hostage and forced Big Macs and fries down his throat. People who blame everyone else for their own problems really piss me off. And this coming from the one person who actually had the opportunity to stop him. But no, after he says he's going to hunt humans strapped with guns and ammo the wife and kid do what...absolutely nothing!
I grew up in San Ysidro and have passed by the memorial many many many times….I was briefly told about what happened there but never with this much depth. I’d always wanted to know what exactly happened thank you so much for this!
Thank you so much for covering this case. It made me cry. I know you can only cover so much about it, but you did great. I remember when it happened. I must have been about 7 or 8 and living in LA. I remember being scared for a long time to actually go into a McDonald's. Keep up the great work. I admire your channel and the attention you bring to cases that should not be forgotten.
This is a great analysis I've read of James Huberty "His motive is unclear. I believe he hated his life, blamed society, abandoned his family and was simply merciless. Killing children, adults, teens and eldery. He did not discriminate, race or gender. He was miserable and wanted the world to feel the same pain, as we all know- misery loves company. Unstable jobs, killed his own dog, insecure, frustrated, hated his own family. Antisocial Personality Disorder. A defected human whoshould have never been born."
I always found it so vapid and elitist to state who should have been born or not. He was human, a product of his environment, as are we all. Not even to mention how the instances that were supposed to help, had utterly failed at doing so.
Circumstantial evidence points to a common motivation for mass shootings in the US, which is racism (as mentioned in this video). Of course, this killer didn’t leave behind a screed or manifesto explicitly spelling this out, as has happened in many other cases
Not even to mention, that dehumananizing people and deciding who should live or not, is the exact reason such killers are detested. Making that "analysis" quite the bitter and hypocritical joke.
I think it was racist! He took mostly Hispanics lives. I think he did it at this certain spot and time for a reason! Regardless, he was a sick sick sick, gross, disturbing man!
He was taking Valium and just quit cold-turkey… my stomach dropped. For people not familiar with mental health meds, there’s a group called SSRIs (like Prozac, Zoloft) that are slow to work but regulate your body long term, and usually if you stop taking them you won’t notice effects right away because they take a while to leave the body. Valium, on the other hand, is a benzodiazepine - it works fast and leaves the body fast. So you have to be really cautious using them, and if you suddenly stop it will wreak havoc on your brain. This guy is no doubt a monster… I don’t think Valium would have “cured” that, but it might have prevented an act of violence like this. The whole thing just makes me sad 😞
i can confirm it takes a minute for that Zoloft because I was on it, stopped and felt the benefit it had given me for months before the reason I needed the Zoloft showed back up, now I'm back on it and doing better. getting the meds we need shouldnt be so tough
@@groobs every body is definitely different! I remember going off Prozac (like an idiot, I thought I could do fine without it), and for two weeks felt completely fine, then like clockwork an atomic bomb of depression dropped on me exactly two weeks later. My Dr told me that it takes several weeks for SSRIs to leave the body, and because of that some people (like myself) don’t feel the difference right away. And YES it shouldn’t be so hard for people to get the meds they need!!! Nor should they be so expensive. I am so glad you are doing well, keep going with the meds and taking care of yourself ♥️♥️
@@theradical_reesie_d591 mine was because my doc wanted me to try something else to try and get at my anxiety too and so we were gonna switch me off Zoloft anyway, well the new thing didn't help it made it worse and my tummy was acting up so much I just stopped taking anything and fell off course, I really should have told my doc that the new meds weren't good and I want my old again but I didn't feel I had it in me to say what I needed to say. I wanted to trust the process and I did still need help, but yea months go by and I really start to feel the improvement that I'd had slipped and so I had to go all over again and I'm doing okay ish now lol
Thank you for this comment. I had the same reaction to hearing that he'd suddenly lost Valium that you had. I must take benzodiazepines for sleep, and have for twenty years. I have been able to cut my dose, but I will need them as long as I live. Heather Ashton was a British physician whose expertise was in benzodiazepine withdrawal. The Ashton Manual is, as far as I know, still online for free download. Dr Ashton, being aware of how addictive benzodiazepines are, allows two years or more for the most habitual user to wean down. As I say, I need them because of a medical condition, so I will not be withdrawing. But an appreciation of what a disaster it can be to suddenly withdraw a benzodiazepine from a long term user is much needed in society ( and by some doctors ), and I thank you again for your comment.
You are by far one of my favorites! I adore your narration and love your voice 😉 you do such a wonderful job and please don't stop the awesome work 💕 oh and somewhere sinister is badass. Thank you for everything!!
77 Minutes just to take 1 gunman out. With the Robb elementary shooting police are still not doing they're job not running towards & facing the shooter fast & saving many lives instead they wait back away & let any shooters do they're slaughter jobs instead. A waste! You did well describing this horrible tragedy.
These are regular men and woman you're talking about. They're not super heroes. If you think you'd do any different when put into their position then by all means go ahead. But no, you're nothing but a coward who would gladly call the police in the event of an emergency.
I’m pretty sure police aren’t actually obligated to protect. Best hope that one of the first responding is a Marine, they will run towards gunfire and neutralize it.
I remember this incident as I was around my 20's at the time and also a resident in the area. 1. News crews got there before swat, they even televised swat deployment live. 2. The shooter never spoke of vietnamese people, next day news papers elaborated on what he screamed at the time, and what witnesses and survivors heard inside the local from him. 3. When snipers deployed, several times they would call out "green" over the radios, to which the same voice would reply "red" every time. (Also reported by the news the next day) this meant snipers had a shot, but were denied. 4. Finally Mr. Sanders arrived on scene and the very next green, got a green reply. 5. Mr Sanders went on to become San Diego's Chief of police and later City mayor. That's a consensus of mine and others recollections based on public information live and news reports the same and next day. You did a good job but time has buried a lot of details, and that's where it is now ✌🏼 P.s. swat response was immediate and professional, unfortunately their commanding officer wasn't with them on site, and it was not their call 😞
I remember being told as a kid that the sniper was so precise because they delayed his arrival despite having multiple chances to get Huberty. Clearly, they wanted a particular marksman to kill the bad guy for PR purposes/Direct angle into the most vulnerable position for the kill.
Clicked on this when I couldn't go back to sleep. I vaguely remember this from the news when I was a kid, parents didn't really let you watch it much back then, and hearing the details made me cry. So much senseless killing. The kids are the hardest to hear about, but that older couple got me, too for some reason. Thank you for covering this. Great job as always.
This was the first mass shooting I remember as a child. It happened in 1984 when I was 10 1/2 years old a day or so before the Los Angeles Olympics began. I remember seeing photos of the kids on the bike that were shot. They were about my age and as a child it made me realize that even children my age could be killed by a crazed shooter. For a time I was worried to enter McDonalds as well thinking someone might come in and start shooting.
When I was a kid my parents threw me in a locked rehab for bad kids. One of the counselors had one of the kids that was in this restaurant when this happened. He told me that he told him that he was young but he remembers playing dead after his mom was shot and killed next to him. He said that Huberty walked around with that UZI with a look of concentration on his face,anyone that moved or opened their eyes that he saw he would stand over them and kill them. He asked that kid after he heard the story" Are you hungry? Want to go to Mc Donald's?. He said,sure let's go. True story.
Out of the stories you have told and I’ve watched from you..this has been far the worst and heart breaking one. Thanks for the awareness. Love your channel
I don't know if you read comments, but I'd just like to think you for urging people to ask for help. As a person that has tried to commit suicide and has used self harm as a coping mechanism for years, the reminder is always so good to hear. It also shows how much you care, since you don't have to put this in your videos, but you choose to. Love your content mate. Keep going and take care!
Excellent job covering this tragedy with poise and eloquence. The details of this case are truly shocking and are horrifying regarding to how Huberty acted towards his victims with total impunity. It takes a lot of poise to describe this case the way you did and I’m glad you helped shed light on this mostly unknown event.
This is so weird.... last night I was wondering to myself if this channel would do an episode of this guy.... check the channel this morning.... guess my wish was granted! Thank you Mr. Monsters!
I absolutely hate this man and what he did. What a complete cowardly homicidal maniac. All those poor people and children on top of it. Just out for McDonald's lunch and your life is cut down for no reason whatsoever. Complete coward.
He’s a coward and Piece of sh*t but those police are even worse utterly useless and this is why many in the US would rather attempt to defend themselves in a crime rather than wait or rely on them..
Seriously, i agree wholeheartedly he was a coward i could never imagine hurting innocent people let alone children. As a staunch gun rights supporter i truly wish someone was in that mcdonalds that day legally carrying so they could have neutralized the threat before he was able to hurt as many people as he did. The whole reason i have a license to carry and keep a 9mm with a standard 20 round magazine + 1 in the chamber and a back 20 rounder is that i am never a victim again( i was almost killed on two separate occasions when i was 16 and 20) or a future victim of a mass shooting. In a perfect world guns and violent humans wouldnt exist, but they do(and you can blame the chinese for the guns).. And even we banned every gun tomorrow we would never be able to be a gin free society because of how many are in existence and the ability and knowledge to make them wont go anywhere. So criminals and dangerous people will always have them, its gonna take good people with a good heart and the training and skill to stop evil in its tracks.
And after hearing how a sniper took him out, smh. He didnt deserve to die that easy, he earned himself a brutal long death but was sadly given a quick one..
@@kyleam288 Did you listen to the story? There were plenty of armed trained cops there and they still took almost an hour and a half to stop him. If a gun is powerful enough to have police scared like that then regular civilians shouldn't be allowed to have them. Its that simple..
Dude I will never be able to appreciate you enough for how nicely you portrayed people with schizophrenia. My friend has schizophrenia, and the amount of shit she gets is mind boggling. When we’re out and people see her “de-stigmatize schizophrenia” pin (she doesn’t hide it, as she’s not ashamed) they’ll often turn to me like I’m her keeper or some shit and say things like “are you sure she should be holding that butter knife then?” Or “has she taken her meds? I just wanna make sure I’m safe.” It’s incredible how she suddenly become a lesser person to them once they find out that her mind works differently. Anyways, rambling aside, thank you for that.
...as long as people stay on their meds....but they don't do they? That's the problem and this fucker wasn't a schizo, just the typical loser man blaming the world for his failings. It is rare for REAL schizophrenics to be violent. He just had the usual 'I'm a white man and the world owes me" syndrome.
it’s one thing to hide it, it’s a whole other thing to flaunt it, as your friend is doing. why are you surprised people act the way they do towards people with schizophrenia? genuinely, how does that surprise you? you can be upset but the evidence is abundant as to why people have this stigma towards that mental illness. it’s not freaking adhd, it has the potential we see in this video, when not taken care of. don’t be dense.
I doubt the mass shooter had schizophrenia. He sounds like a textbook psychopath who conveniently enjoyed suddenly “hearing voices.” He and his wife never blamed themselves for anything.
I watched the documentary “77 minutes”, which unfortunately used actual crime scene footage of the aftermath of the shooting… and man, I will never forget the absolute carnage and sadness that plagued that place. The silence was overwhelming. Rest easy to all the victims.
You are fantastic Jiles!. A delivery so smooth, I listen to your ads simply because it is pleasant hearing you speak. Gladly a faithful follower from the start on both channels. R.I.P. to these victims and their families, this case was so horrific and I remember it well... wounds that will never heal. Truly the definition of a MONSTER.
The most disgusted I've ever felt after reading a Wikipedia page was this massacre. Just absolutely sickening. Thank you for another high quality upload mr Monsters! Ps. Carlita is a warrior baby!
It's so sad. Just the details of this case are overwhelming. I saw a 2-hour documentary about this and they went into detailed stories and descriptions of what the victims were doing that day, some of their backgrounds. Almost like character development in a movie or something. So when the incident is finally covered, it hits that much harder. Especially the story of two young boys. One of them I believe was an immigrant and couldn't speak English and the other boy was white and I guess welcomed him with open arms as soon as his family moved to the neighborhood. They became best friends even through the language barrier. They rode bikes and hung out every day. I think one of them was killed and the other survived. Probably Middle School aged? I saw this 5 or 6 years ago so I don't remember the exact details but it was horrible
I live in San diego, and have been here over a decade, thanks for sharing this giles, it's a terrible tragedy but can't ever be forgotten. Thanks partner much love bro
SAME! I freaked out a few years back when I was waiting for my order in San Ysidro with my son. Immediately started Googling and was absolutely relieved to know that the massacre location was torn down and was actually a few blocks away. Can't believe the owners audacity to attempt to open 2 days later. The greed indeed🤦🏾♀️
Follow-up comment: have you all seen the crime scene pictures from this massacre? I get emotional when researching cases, ranging from heartbroken and sad to full of passion and rage. But very rarely am I shook to my core. Less than a handful of cases are so disturbing that I'm left shell shocked and feeling unsafe in my own foundational existence. For me, this has been one of those cases.
Look up: 'Leak Launch' "1984 san ysidro McDonald's massacre crime scene footage" It's the raw crime scene video footage. I apologize for not having the link. It's age restricted so I'm assuming that's why the link isn't readily available
@@heavyc9745 but let me just say like fair warning you don't want to watch the video. you think you want to watch the video but take my word for it you really don't want to watch the video...
@@sickmanuel that was so sad. The documentary itself was amazing but like I think that's what makes it so heartbreaking is how well it was documented in that film.
the amount of time that he had to kill after it was found out what he was up to is insane. I dont even think he was expecting that level of incompetence
Rule of thumb. Don’t count on the police when there’s a masa shooting. Cop will wait 30 minutes outside devising a plan. Better off rushing the shooter. Look at Uvalde. It’s never fails. But the cops do.
I watched this documentary awhile ago, and when the Ulvade shooting happened I immediately thought of this tragedy. The more the story unfolded, the stories are very similar.
San Diegan here, I appreciate the historical information. I'm familiar with the college but had no idea there was once a mass murder there. This is Monsters really goes in depth with location, hits the listener different when they are 30 min away
Thank you for this. I live in the area but I was pretty young when it occurred, and everyone was too long-term traumatized to really talk about the whole story.
Dude this guy "Monster's" truly is amazing at what he does.. And the way he tells these stories with so much detail it's stunning & really awesome.. Don't you guys agree?
Thank you for this derp dive on this subject. Most focus on the mental health element as if his mental health issues were the primary reason for what he did. The multiple points of failure by law enforcement is just sad. Love the work you do.
Such a tragic case - your style and delivery are such an inspiration to my channel and the cases I cover, you bring out such a huge personality, I'm glad to be back to creating and watching your channel gives me thay drive
You really need a tv show! And u bet you'd be an awesome writer/author as well! Love your delivery and factual material. Please keep up the fantastic work 👍👍
When I first heard about this massacre only like two years ago, I was surprised that so many people would actually be “inside” of a McDonald’s, but then I realized it was the 80s and these fast food restaurants at that time were frequented and filled very often. People during that time intentionally went inside to dine. So different from today.
I watched two videos on this subject and yours was much more informative. The detail given showed that it was researched quite thoroughly. Keep up the good work. 👍
This was so tragic & heartbreaking. Although equally upset about the adult victims, hearing about children being killed really shakes me up. RIP to all of those lost souls 😢🙏🏻💔
Seriously this is one of my biggest fears for some reason. I have nightmares about it all the time, that I'm in a mass shooting and my 2yo is scared and crying and him getting killed over it, and I used to have the same nightmares about my daughter years ago when she was a baby too. Now that I'm watching this video and being reminded of this case I'm thinking that this fear may have originally come from this case. I listen to a lot of true crime but cases like this are just too much for me
@@BriEMcN any crimes against children really make me physically ill. My kids are 9,18,21 now, the only thing that gives me a sense of peace is that we live in Australia. We don’t have the worries the USA has, but what happens there affects all of us too mentally. My whole family was absolutely shook with the last shooting that happened. We may be on the other side of the world but as humans with compassion what goes on there affects our mental too. RIP to those innocent souls 🙏🏻 I pray the USA gets their 💩 together
This was massive global news at the time, including in Australia. It shocked a lot of people, including 10 to 16 year olds because we used to ride our BMX bikes to McDonalds. The picture of the dead 11 year old boy next to his bike ( Omar) was on front page of every major newspaper, and led news bulletins. Anyone who was over about 10 years old in July 84 even outside of USA probably remembers this. It was before the mass shootings in Australia, starting a few years later and well before Columbine. It scared and shocked tf out of many people at the time.
I remember this well. To this day, I still think the police/swat could have taken him out before he harmed that many people/children. I am glad that McDonalds ( for once ) actually thought hard enough to not reopen that spot. I'm thankful to whom ever had a memorial built on the scene.
There was no such thing as active shooter training back then, protocol was to set up a perimeter wait for SWAT or negotiate. We have the benefit of hindsight and I think that gets lost on alot of people. Especially when the victims evoke such raw emotions i.e. children.
That's a joke Close to 2 decades prior to the McDonald's massacre. A military trained sharp shooter, barricaded himself in the Tower at the University of Texas. The incident lasted longer, but it wasn't because of a mixture of incompetence and cowardice like the shooting in San Diego. Numerous officers and civilians risked, and some lost their lives trying to save others. They constantly engaged the shooter drawing his fire to drag the wounded to safety, eventually entering the tower and taking him out. And there was fundamental training for dealing with all types of scenarios, including the one at McDonald's. They had the building surrounded but refused to breach, and that's in spite of the fact they were told by those who escaped he wasn't taking hostages, soley murdering people, they knew full well any wounded inside would bleed out, if they didn't take immediate action. There were at least 150 cops on the scene, yet they left the unarmed men, women and children at the mercy of a sadistic degenerate. The fact that they were called out for lying by the survivors says it all. Whether it was Columbine, Sandy Hook, the Gabrielle Gifford shooting in Tucson, even Uvalde. All of those shootings had unarmed civilians either challenging the shooters, or running into the direction of the gunfire to save others. Some live others didn't. There's zero excuse for those in a position to help doing nothing. The first cop on the scene talked having an inadequate weapon. A claim I don't dispute, but imagine how the unarmed people in McDonald's who could only use their bodies to shield their loved ones felt. Don't wear a badge and uniform if you're not willing to sacrifice in the service of others.
@@shadysif6220It’s completely different to have a long gun man on a tower and a gun man who is in a building with many people and is constantly moving around. Official reports show that these guys didn’t have the proper equipment or training and they couldn’t do anything until the swat team came. “Imagine how unarmed people who could only use their bodies felt” is completely irrelevant. You want the officer to run up to the building only to also get shot and killed? You’re basically saying “oh those people inside got shot and weren’t able to protect themselves, let’s send guys who wouldn’t fair much better to do the same”
This is terribly sad. All your stories are but this was heart wrenching in a different way for me. Thank you for covering this story, I’ve never heard it before.
This applies, as well, to people such as I, who have traumatic brain injuries. But then, people have a reflexive reaction that people with TBIs might be dangerous in their own way. This is ridiculous.
But addicts are mentally ill 😩. It’s really an issue when addicts are looked at as not mentally ill. We’re taking two steps forward and ten back with that thinking. It makes more sense to say non drug addicted mentally ill ppl.
And drug induced psychosis without an underlying condition is not classed as mental illness in Australia at least.. there is a lot of binge drug use which is more associated with ice and things like that
Bitter, twisted, narcissist who was filled with hate while blaming others for his inadequacies. . Life is hard but most people reinvent themselves and move on. And the murders of innocent people just go on and on.
"James Huberty killed 21 people, 22 including the unborn baby." So, is the unborn baby not a person? What is it then? I think it's a person. RIP sweetheart.
Of course we love your show ..Monsters and the Monster man is the best on the web... Thank you for all your hard work..I for one love it and appreciate it
I remember this like it was yesterday. I was visiting my parents who lived in the area. I remember how chilling it was to hear about these mass killings. Thank you for the very detailed and informative video. Awesome that one of the McDonald workers became a police officer! Sad it took so very long for the police to take the shooter out!
@@tessla7675 correct, like father, like daughter. she most probably meant this to have avoided, what public did to her afterwards for being the daughter of a killer.
24:00 Thank you for statically broadening our knowledge about frequency distribution of violent acts against strangers, across offenders suffering from mental illness. People who fit into “the mainstream” or deem themselves as “normal” have very [high suspicion] and [low respect] toward those who display any expression of “disorder”.
Thank you for being compassionate to people with mental illness. Anytime it comes out that a person who commits a violent crime has mental illness it’s like “damn man. You’re making us look bad. We have enough problems as it is”
My dad is a gun nut. He also has a personality disorder and PTSD from the Vietnam War. Once, when I was about 11, he got so pissed off at me that he held me at gunpoint. I was scared so I did the only thing I could think to do, which was run across the street and hide behind a telephone pole. I was too naive and upset to think reasonably, so I didn't ask a neighbor for help or call the police. I just sort of took it as something that was my fault and would probably happen again if I misbehaved around him. When I became an adult, I started seeing a counselor. He helped me organize my emotions and evaluate my relationships. It wasn't the counselor's idea, but I decided not to associate with my dad anymore for what he did to me. Of course there were other abuses, but the gun was not an acceptable behavior. It's my opinion that guns should be much harder to obtain legally, because my dad had about 40 pistols and numerous rifles and shotguns, all of which he purchased legally. As far as the government is concerned, he is a responsible adult american who should never have his rights taken away. This is a delusion caused by brainwashing and bribery by the gun lobby, which is mostly the NRA. Politicians are beholden to this powerful group of idiots who change decent people into killers and terrorists.
@william The police have guns, and if I had called the police, which was appropriate, they would have taken care of the problem by peaceful arrest. It would have been much worse if I ran to a neighbor who decided to blow my dad away with a shotgun.
Doesn't anyone find it odd that law enforcement will use alot of weapons and force against a single person and when faced with critical situations evolving a real threat to their safety they avoid confrontation when they are trained to manage conflict.
This sounds familiar to the cops of the recent Texas shootings. I have noticed you usually bring attention to the facts concerning mental health patients. I worked in mental health and can attest that most aren't inclined to bring pain to others. You have educated yourself and I thank you for that..
Exactly this. Stigma around mental disabilities or illness has taken a life on its own, that often even seems to lean into eugenics.
It is quite saddening to see.
Obviously the problem is not mental illness on the whole. The problem is that that very small percentage of mentally ill people who are prone to violence can purchase firearms without having their backgrounds checked
As someone with bipolar it’s really hard having people automatically think I’m insane. There’s still a lot that isn’t known about personality disorders and mood disorders. It’s generally understood but mental illness is so stigmatized the second someone hears “schizophrenia “ they think the person isn’t able to be helped.
@@beckybunny7834 Perceiving a chronic illness as a defect, flaw or inhuman trait, is a detriment to all.
The sad and bitter irony is that people who utilize that judgement in such a destructive manner, are exactly guilty of what they fear within a diagnosis as such.
@@beckybunny7834 Try have ADHD/Autism. People wear that as a aesthetic badge.
Respect for Victor's courage, as he tried to reason with the attacker and keep anyone else from being hurt.
This is so scary! 77 minutes must have felt like an eternity for the people who survived.
"Ain't"....NO WAY 😬
This is the only telling of this story that actually talked about and showed pictures of the victims. Thank you for that, they deserve better than just being a side note in this tragedy.
Actually the documentary 77 Minutes has many many photos of the victims including interviews with friends and family as well as interviews with survivors and some of the press and law enforcement that were there that day. It’s readily available and completely worth the watch.
@@playnicechannel thank you, I’m going to watch it right now.
I’ve seen others with photos as well but this one showed way more
The documentary of this shooting is so incredibly sad! Hearing from the little boy that survived outside when his friends died next to him was so heartbreaking
Or the dad who covered his kids friend while the mom covered the son. The mom and son died. Or the two old people walking right in.... or how the documentary is called 75 minutes.... it's ridiculous.
@@SaintValNSwine77 minutes… That’s the outrageously long amount of time it took for the police to put that monster down.
This has to be one of the more horrific stories you have done. The fear the victims must have felt for over and hour is hard to comprehend.
I feel if someone reaches out for mental health help, regardless if they appear calm or agitated, it should be taken as an emergency.
Agree, I am diagnosed with mental health and if I am completely honest, we can be deceiving... sometimes intentionally, sometimes not BUT someone with rational and clear thinking needs to make the decisions if the person can't regardless of what they are displaying and most especially if they are calling a hot line or presenting in an Er etc.
I work in an ER and the one thing I’ll say that even if someone reaches out the help is not always available. Sadly, if you don’t have insurance resources are limited. I work in a suburban ER and if an uninsured person needs mental health services they can wait in the ER for up to 24 hours until we can get a bed for them. Which is not safe or productive for them. Unfortunately some states, I live in Texas, are cutting funds for mental health drastically right now.
I had to stop and pause for a minute after you said that he ran into the Post office and handed his injured baby to a stranger and then ran back to his wife. I can't imagine the shear terror of that father trying to save his baby and his wife. And then the woman he gave the baby too. I don't know why that part hit me so hard. The whole thing is terrible but that just got to me.
I thought the delay at Uvalde was unforgivable but this is a whole new level. Active shooter training should detail the incompetence in this case and use it as a lesson of what NOT to do. Absolutely disgusting. I can’t fathom the devastation to that city, families, and friends. Great video, Jiles
@Art of War Arm Wrestling tell that to the dead and their families.
Just because Uvalde cops were laughably incompetent doesn’t mean every cop at every mass shooting is also incompetent. The cops here definitely weren’t expecting, trained or equipped to respond to this and this is reflected by the fact that one of the victims initially thought the shooting was a joke. It was a different time. They did what they could.
@Art of War Arm Wrestling how about sneak up to the building and pop up or wait and blast em . Do soldiers wait? I bet a civilian with a weapon would not cower 100yards away
Believe it or not, police have zero legal obligation to save you in a situation like this.
@@rdhmdk right so there useless send someone whos not to get it done
I always found this massacre especially grotesque and hard to hear about, obviously they all are uniquely horrible in their own way, but something about the details, the killer dancing around listening to music while shooting people, all the child and baby murdering, the lack of any real motive whatsoever.
I agree with this, too.
Certainly we all agree this man should have never been born.
There is footage showing the immediate aftermath of the shooting. Quite an unbelievable scene. Despite the graphic nature, it is actually on TH-cam
@@goldzior1128 theres a documentary about it that shows the news footage of the tragedy and the aftermath you can find on tubi and most free sites it's a rough watch though as I think you see the body of the youngest victim.
@@goldzior1128 VERY easy to find the photos of this event. Google carefully if you don't wish to see 'em.
You covered this case flawlessly, Jiles... but with a little more than usual. Absolutely captivating.
is it "Jiles" or Giles?
Thank you so much for taking the care to show photos and give the names of the victims. I have never heard of this horrific incident so it important to remember the victims and tell their stories. So many heroes that day.
Not really
@@StuffedBearSus I can see why you would say that and you're right. I meant those people that were mentioned in the video who used their bodies to protect children and other loved ones.
@Thou Swell Maybe ask everyone else and see how many already knew about this shooting. It's sad that there are so many in this country that something this massive wouldn't be more written or talked about.
You did an excellent job covering this story, and made plausible inferences about the conditions that surrounded this tragedy. San Diego born & raised, and I really appreciate your coverage, thank you
I was born in 1978 and this was the first mass shooting I had ever heard of. I remember thinking how tragic it was, even as a child, it horrified me. I remember seeing this in a magazine or book, and it will be something I never forget. The correlation between this and Uvalde are frustrating. Police that just couldn't be bothered to stop active shootings. I know these were fairly rare back in the day, it is still a tragedy nonetheless.
Agree with everything you said. Born in 1978, as well.
My son was born in 1981 and when he was four we drove by a McDonalds and saw a taxi entering the drive through. He said "He's going in there to kill people." I assured him that was not the case but was surprised at how much he had picked up from the TV news.
I was born in 74 and it was also the first mass shooting I ever heard of and the reality of just going about your day and a gunman coming in and shooting people. Sadly it seems to happen more often now than it did back then. I was not aware of the slow police response time though, that makes it even sadder. I always thought it happened in a couple of minutes, not 77 minutes. That's horrific.
For some police, the whole "protect and serve" thing is just an inconvenience to get a neat badge and authority over others
@@Mildain2000 they’re there to serve the law and protect government property and businesses
I always appreciate how you talk about mental health more than I can even express. My family has been through hell for generations because of how poorly mental health is understood. We've lost a lot of good people in ways that could have been prevented had someone understood the reality of their situations. My sister and I both struggle with our mental health and it's taken so long to find even medical professionals who are willing and able to treat us. It's something so many people face and so many more are unwilling to understand. Thank you so much!
The same is true of traumatic brain injury, which I've had since I was seven. My neurologist dropped me in December, so I have been without a neurologist since. Here's hoping we find the help we need.
I actually laughed out loud when he had the audacity to sue Mcdonald's for their food being partially responsible for his crimes or his ex employer
Anyone remember the Macdonald's commercials running at the time ? It was a series of ads depicting people having a " BIG MAC ATTACK " . Needless to say , the ads were pulled shortly after this tragedy .
Huh?
His ghost tried to sue Micky D's? Derrrrr
I think his wife tried to sue mcdonalds
Like Ronald himself held her husband hostage and forced Big Macs and fries down his throat. People who blame everyone else for their own problems really piss me off. And this coming from the one person who actually had the opportunity to stop him. But no, after he says he's going to hunt humans strapped with guns and ammo the wife and kid do what...absolutely nothing!
Get a coffee when you wake up Jiles 💙
But please don’t go to mc Donalds😂😂😂. Y’all don’t let this joke flop
Thank you!
You’re a master at telling these stories and as long as we say their names they will never be forgotten. Thank you!
I grew up in San Ysidro and have passed by the memorial many many many times….I was briefly told about what happened there but never with this much depth. I’d always wanted to know what exactly happened thank you so much for this!
one of my friends is one of the survivors that was working there that day....poor lady is scarred for life
Wow my condolences to her
Liar🙄
@@Lenasevilla-yb4ei why would i lie about something like that..i got better things to be doing with my time
@@Lenasevilla-yb4ei get a life you sad sack of sh*t
James sh0t this James sh0t that. WHY IS NOBODY sh00ting James???
Thank you so much for covering this case. It made me cry. I know you can only cover so much about it, but you did great. I remember when it happened. I must have been about 7 or 8 and living in LA. I remember being scared for a long time to actually go into a McDonald's. Keep up the great work. I admire your channel and the attention you bring to cases that should not be forgotten.
I was born in 1990, but I have a friend who’s in her early 70’s. To this day she exclusively goes through drive-throughs.
This is a great analysis I've read of James Huberty
"His motive is unclear. I believe he hated his life, blamed society, abandoned his family and was simply merciless. Killing children, adults, teens and eldery. He did not discriminate, race or gender. He was miserable and wanted the world to feel the same pain, as we all know- misery loves company. Unstable jobs, killed his own dog, insecure, frustrated, hated his own family. Antisocial Personality Disorder. A defected human whoshould have never been born."
I always found it so vapid and elitist to state who should have been born or not.
He was human, a product of his environment, as are we all. Not even to mention how the instances that were supposed to help, had utterly failed at doing so.
Circumstantial evidence points to a common motivation for mass shootings in the US, which is racism (as mentioned in this video). Of course, this killer didn’t leave behind a screed or manifesto explicitly spelling this out, as has happened in many other cases
Not even to mention, that dehumananizing people and deciding who should live or not, is the exact reason such killers are detested.
Making that "analysis" quite the bitter and hypocritical joke.
The vast majority of people he shot seemed to have been hispanic, so I wouldn't assume that this wasn't racially motivated.
I think it was racist! He took mostly Hispanics lives. I think he did it at this certain spot and time for a reason! Regardless, he was a sick sick sick, gross, disturbing man!
He was taking Valium and just quit cold-turkey… my stomach dropped. For people not familiar with mental health meds, there’s a group called SSRIs (like Prozac, Zoloft) that are slow to work but regulate your body long term, and usually if you stop taking them you won’t notice effects right away because they take a while to leave the body. Valium, on the other hand, is a benzodiazepine - it works fast and leaves the body fast. So you have to be really cautious using them, and if you suddenly stop it will wreak havoc on your brain.
This guy is no doubt a monster… I don’t think Valium would have “cured” that, but it might have prevented an act of violence like this.
The whole thing just makes me sad 😞
i can confirm it takes a minute for that Zoloft because I was on it, stopped and felt the benefit it had given me for months before the reason I needed the Zoloft showed back up, now I'm back on it and doing better. getting the meds we need shouldnt be so tough
@@groobs every body is definitely different! I remember going off Prozac (like an idiot, I thought I could do fine without it), and for two weeks felt completely fine, then like clockwork an atomic bomb of depression dropped on me exactly two weeks later. My Dr told me that it takes several weeks for SSRIs to leave the body, and because of that some people (like myself) don’t feel the difference right away.
And YES it shouldn’t be so hard for people to get the meds they need!!! Nor should they be so expensive. I am so glad you are doing well, keep going with the meds and taking care of yourself ♥️♥️
@@theradical_reesie_d591 mine was because my doc wanted me to try something else to try and get at my anxiety too and so we were gonna switch me off Zoloft anyway, well the new thing didn't help it made it worse and my tummy was acting up so much I just stopped taking anything and fell off course, I really should have told my doc that the new meds weren't good and I want my old again but I didn't feel I had it in me to say what I needed to say. I wanted to trust the process and I did still need help, but yea months go by and I really start to feel the improvement that I'd had slipped and so I had to go all over again and I'm doing okay ish now lol
Thank you for this comment. I had the same reaction to hearing that he'd suddenly lost Valium that you had.
I must take benzodiazepines for sleep, and have for twenty years. I have been able to cut my dose, but I will need them as long as I live.
Heather Ashton was a British physician whose expertise was in benzodiazepine withdrawal. The Ashton Manual is, as far as I know, still online for free download. Dr Ashton, being aware of how addictive benzodiazepines are, allows two years or more for the most habitual user to wean down.
As I say, I need them because of a medical condition, so I will not be withdrawing. But an appreciation of what a disaster it can be to suddenly withdraw a benzodiazepine from a long term user is much needed in society ( and by some doctors ), and I thank you again for your comment.
@@bobtaylor170 there was absolutely no excuse for this carnage
You are by far one of my favorites! I adore your narration and love your voice 😉 you do such a wonderful job and please don't stop the awesome work 💕 oh and somewhere sinister is badass. Thank you for everything!!
This case haunts me. Something so grim about seeing bloodied families and scattered happy meals from the police footage video :-(
strange seeing your comment on here lol but yes this case was very disturbing :(
@@CC_Mila 😜
@@Bubba__Sawyer Well, not strange just surprised. She's a youtuber I watch.
Another sensitive and informative case study of a horrific crime. I so appreciate your work Jiles. Rip to the victims.
77 Minutes just to take 1 gunman out. With the Robb elementary shooting police are still not doing they're job not running towards & facing the shooter fast & saving many lives instead they wait back away & let any shooters do they're slaughter jobs instead. A waste! You did well describing this horrible tragedy.
They had not protocol for this type of shooting, they primarily dealt with standoffs.
These are regular men and woman you're talking about. They're not super heroes. If you think you'd do any different when put into their position then by all means go ahead. But no, you're nothing but a coward who would gladly call the police in the event of an emergency.
@@xSilent.Threatx a regular person with a pistol would of gone in, stop making excuses for these cowards, 🤡.
I’m pretty sure police aren’t actually obligated to protect. Best hope that one of the first responding is a Marine, they will run towards gunfire and neutralize it.
@@xSilent.Threatx "These are regular men and women..." who were supposed to have been trained, but never were.
I remember this incident as I was around my 20's at the time and also a resident in the area.
1. News crews got there before swat, they even televised swat deployment live.
2. The shooter never spoke of vietnamese people, next day news papers elaborated on what he screamed at the time, and what witnesses and survivors heard inside the local from him.
3. When snipers deployed, several times they would call out "green" over the radios, to which the same voice would reply "red" every time. (Also reported by the news the next day) this meant snipers had a shot, but were denied.
4. Finally Mr. Sanders arrived on scene and the very next green, got a green reply.
5. Mr Sanders went on to become San Diego's Chief of police and later City mayor.
That's a consensus of mine and others recollections based on public information live and news reports the same and next day.
You did a good job but time has buried a lot of details, and that's where it is now ✌🏼
P.s. swat response was immediate and professional, unfortunately their commanding officer wasn't with them on site, and it was not their call 😞
I remember being told as a kid that the sniper was so precise because they delayed his arrival despite having multiple chances to get Huberty. Clearly, they wanted a particular marksman to kill the bad guy for PR purposes/Direct angle into the most vulnerable position for the kill.
I thought rush hour traffic was the excuse the police used for not arriving sooner than they did. Didn't stop news crews from getting there.
Clicked on this when I couldn't go back to sleep. I vaguely remember this from the news when I was a kid, parents didn't really let you watch it much back then, and hearing the details made me cry. So much senseless killing. The kids are the hardest to hear about, but that older couple got me, too for some reason. Thank you for covering this. Great job as always.
Yay! Thank you for all you do! This gig is most definitely what you were meant to be doing so please don't stop anytime soon if ever! Cheers!
yay? wtf is wrong with you
Giving a content creator a compliment is a problem now too? Wtf is wrong with THAT? smh
This was the first mass shooting I remember as a child. It happened in 1984 when I was 10 1/2 years old a day or so before the Los Angeles Olympics began. I remember seeing photos of the kids on the bike that were shot. They were about my age and as a child it made me realize that even children my age could be killed by a crazed shooter. For a time I was worried to enter McDonalds as well thinking someone might come in and start shooting.
When I was a kid my parents threw me in a locked rehab for bad kids. One of the counselors had one of the kids that was in this restaurant when this happened. He told me that he told him that he was young but he remembers playing dead after his mom was shot and killed next to him. He said that Huberty walked around with that UZI with a look of concentration on his face,anyone that moved or opened their eyes that he saw he would stand over them and kill them. He asked that kid after he heard the story" Are you hungry? Want to go to Mc Donald's?. He said,sure let's go. True story.
Out of the stories you have told and I’ve watched from you..this has been far the worst and heart breaking one. Thanks for the awareness. Love your channel
I don't know if you read comments, but I'd just like to think you for urging people to ask for help. As a person that has tried to commit suicide and has used self harm as a coping mechanism for years, the reminder is always so good to hear. It also shows how much you care, since you don't have to put this in your videos, but you choose to. Love your content mate. Keep going and take care!
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💖 I'm glad you're still here, I hope you have found a better coping mechanism friend.
Your comment made me cry. I can relate.
Excellent job covering this tragedy with poise and eloquence. The details of this case are truly shocking and are horrifying regarding to how Huberty acted towards his victims with total impunity. It takes a lot of poise to describe this case the way you did and I’m glad you helped shed light on this mostly unknown event.
This is so weird.... last night I was wondering to myself if this channel would do an episode of this guy.... check the channel this morning.... guess my wish was granted! Thank you Mr. Monsters!
His wife trying to get her hands on the blood money later truly made me want to puke though. Thanks for covering the case!
I agree. She was as repulsive as the monster who she couldn’t shut up about until the media moved on.
I absolutely hate this man and what he did. What a complete cowardly homicidal maniac. All those poor people and children on top of it. Just out for McDonald's lunch and your life is cut down for no reason whatsoever. Complete coward.
He’s a coward and Piece of sh*t but those police are even worse utterly useless and this is why many in the US would rather attempt to defend themselves in a crime rather than wait or rely on them..
Seriously, i agree wholeheartedly he was a coward i could never imagine hurting innocent people let alone children. As a staunch gun rights supporter i truly wish someone was in that mcdonalds that day legally carrying so they could have neutralized the threat before he was able to hurt as many people as he did. The whole reason i have a license to carry and keep a 9mm with a standard 20 round magazine + 1 in the chamber and a back 20 rounder is that i am never a victim again( i was almost killed on two separate occasions when i was 16 and 20) or a future victim of a mass shooting. In a perfect world guns and violent humans wouldnt exist, but they do(and you can blame the chinese for the guns).. And even we banned every gun tomorrow we would never be able to be a gin free society because of how many are in existence and the ability and knowledge to make them wont go anywhere. So criminals and dangerous people will always have them, its gonna take good people with a good heart and the training and skill to stop evil in its tracks.
And after hearing how a sniper took him out, smh. He didnt deserve to die that easy, he earned himself a brutal long death but was sadly given a quick one..
@@kyleam288 You have this problem in the US because you are a society of gun freaks.
Good luck with that.
@@kyleam288 Did you listen to the story? There were plenty of armed trained cops there and they still took almost an hour and a half to stop him. If a gun is powerful enough to have police scared like that then regular civilians shouldn't be allowed to have them. Its that simple..
The wifes was also useless, just greedy, her lawsuit was laughable
I agree. She milked her 15 minutes of infamy. Despicable couple.
Gross
Dude I will never be able to appreciate you enough for how nicely you portrayed people with schizophrenia. My friend has schizophrenia, and the amount of shit she gets is mind boggling. When we’re out and people see her “de-stigmatize schizophrenia” pin (she doesn’t hide it, as she’s not ashamed) they’ll often turn to me like I’m her keeper or some shit and say things like “are you sure she should be holding that butter knife then?” Or “has she taken her meds? I just wanna make sure I’m safe.”
It’s incredible how she suddenly become a lesser person to them once they find out that her mind works differently. Anyways, rambling aside, thank you for that.
She has a demon
...as long as people stay on their meds....but they don't do they? That's the problem and this fucker wasn't a schizo, just the typical loser man blaming the world for his failings. It is rare for REAL schizophrenics to be violent. He just had the usual 'I'm a white man and the world owes me" syndrome.
Why should we de stigmitize a thing that makes people kill others. NO we shuld shun it and keep people safe.
it’s one thing to hide it, it’s a whole other thing to flaunt it, as your friend is doing. why are you surprised people act the way they do towards people with schizophrenia? genuinely, how does that surprise you? you can be upset but the evidence is abundant as to why people have this stigma towards that mental illness. it’s not freaking adhd, it has the potential we see in this video, when not taken care of. don’t be dense.
I doubt the mass shooter had schizophrenia. He sounds like a textbook psychopath who conveniently enjoyed suddenly “hearing voices.” He and his wife never blamed themselves for anything.
Thank you for the upload
Thanks!
Thanks to you!
I watched the documentary “77 minutes”, which unfortunately used actual crime scene footage of the aftermath of the shooting… and man, I will never forget the absolute carnage and sadness that plagued that place. The silence was overwhelming. Rest easy to all the victims.
You are fantastic Jiles!. A delivery so smooth, I listen to your ads simply because it is pleasant hearing you speak. Gladly a faithful follower from the start on both channels. R.I.P. to these victims and their families, this case was so horrific and I remember it well... wounds that will never heal. Truly the definition of a MONSTER.
Once again a masterful execution of true crime narration, and another exquisite outro of the 'Monster' characterisation...
Blessings... Puccini 😇
77 minutes without any help?! That's absolutely unthinkable!
…so unthinkable, that the scenario was essentially replayed at the Uvalde, Texas school shooting last month
@@gregbors8364 Exactly! No lessons learned from past history..
@@gregbors8364 exactly my thoughts...
The most disgusted I've ever felt after reading a Wikipedia page was this massacre. Just absolutely sickening. Thank you for another high quality upload mr Monsters!
Ps. Carlita is a warrior baby!
It's so sad. Just the details of this case are overwhelming. I saw a 2-hour documentary about this and they went into detailed stories and descriptions of what the victims were doing that day, some of their backgrounds. Almost like character development in a movie or something. So when the incident is finally covered, it hits that much harder. Especially the story of two young boys. One of them I believe was an immigrant and couldn't speak English and the other boy was white and I guess welcomed him with open arms as soon as his family moved to the neighborhood. They became best friends even through the language barrier. They rode bikes and hung out every day. I think one of them was killed and the other survived. Probably Middle School aged? I saw this 5 or 6 years ago so I don't remember the exact details but it was horrible
Check out William Bonin. His is worse, imo.
Somebody's reply was censored. I'd like to know what it was
@@SebastianDingleswitch i just read it. wtf, how could he be let out time and time again
@@Imarriedmydog prolly them posting the link of the crime scene video of the event
I live in San diego, and have been here over a decade, thanks for sharing this giles, it's a terrible tragedy but can't ever be forgotten. Thanks partner much love bro
SAME! I freaked out a few years back when I was waiting for my order in San Ysidro with my son. Immediately started Googling and was absolutely relieved to know that the massacre location was torn down and was actually a few blocks away. Can't believe the owners audacity to attempt to open 2 days later. The greed indeed🤦🏾♀️
Follow-up comment: have you all seen the crime scene pictures from this massacre? I get emotional when researching cases, ranging from heartbroken and sad to full of passion and rage. But very rarely am I shook to my core. Less than a handful of cases are so disturbing that I'm left shell shocked and feeling unsafe in my own foundational existence.
For me, this has been one of those cases.
Theres a documentary on tubi tv called 77 minutes. They show the raw video. Sad af
Do you have a link for the pics??
Look up: 'Leak Launch'
"1984 san ysidro McDonald's massacre crime scene footage"
It's the raw crime scene video footage. I apologize for not having the link. It's age restricted so I'm assuming that's why the link isn't readily available
@@heavyc9745 but let me just say like fair warning you don't want to watch the video.
you think you want to watch the video but take my word for it you really don't want to watch the video...
@@sickmanuel that was so sad. The documentary itself was amazing but like I think that's what makes it so heartbreaking is how well it was documented in that film.
Well done! This is one of the saddest things I’ve heard, all of those poor innocent people and their families, destroyed by a heinous monster!
the amount of time that he had to kill after it was found out what he was up to is insane. I dont even think he was expecting that level of incompetence
What a nice treat to end my night. Thanks
i love you, storyteller S2
you're voice calms me even in the hardest days
Rule of thumb. Don’t count on the police when there’s a masa shooting. Cop will wait 30 minutes outside devising a plan. Better off rushing the shooter. Look at Uvalde. It’s never fails. But the cops do.
I watched this documentary awhile ago, and when the Ulvade shooting happened I immediately thought of this tragedy. The more the story unfolded, the stories are very similar.
Excellent coverage. Don't stop learning & sharing.✌
San Diegan here, I appreciate the historical information. I'm familiar with the college but had no idea there was once a mass murder there. This is Monsters really goes in depth with location, hits the listener different when they are 30 min away
Thank you for pointing out the FACTS about mental health and violence.
Rob Gavigan (I believe) covered this case a few years back. I knew that I recognized this case. Excellent job as always!
Yes that’s where I saw it too on robs channel …. But yes this is a really good covering too
Thank you for this. I live in the area but I was pretty young when it occurred, and everyone was too long-term traumatized to really talk about the whole story.
Dude this guy "Monster's" truly is amazing at what he does.. And the way he tells these stories with so much detail it's stunning & really awesome.. Don't you guys agree?
Thank you for this derp dive on this subject. Most focus on the mental health element as if his mental health issues were the primary reason for what he did. The multiple points of failure by law enforcement is just sad. Love the work you do.
Loving the new season of Somewhere Sinister! 😁
Such a tragic case - your style and delivery are such an inspiration to my channel and the cases I cover, you bring out such a huge personality, I'm glad to be back to creating and watching your channel gives me thay drive
You really need a tv show! And u bet you'd be an awesome writer/author as well! Love your delivery and factual material. Please keep up the fantastic work 👍👍
Timely video seeing the parallels to Uvalde in this mass shooting from the 80's.
This is why I prefer going through the drive-thru instead of eating inside the restaurant.
When I first heard about this massacre only like two years ago, I was surprised that so many people would actually be “inside” of a McDonald’s, but then I realized it was the 80s and these fast food restaurants at that time were frequented and filled very often. People during that time intentionally went inside to dine. So different from today.
I watched two videos on this subject and yours was much more informative. The detail given showed that it was researched quite thoroughly. Keep up the good work. 👍
i don’t think i’ve yelled “oh my god!” so many times while watching an episodes of your show.
Your videos are not just interesting, but also educational.... Plus your sense of humour and your comments are very entertaining.
This have to be one of the most disgusting cases I've ever encountered! This man was the definition of a MONSTER!
Right he just started killing anything that moved
so you havent encountered many of them
Ayyeee nothing like a 2 am upload. Thank you for this. Insomnia sucks!!
This was so tragic & heartbreaking. Although equally upset about the adult victims, hearing about children being killed really shakes me up. RIP to all of those lost souls 😢🙏🏻💔
Seriously this is one of my biggest fears for some reason. I have nightmares about it all the time, that I'm in a mass shooting and my 2yo is scared and crying and him getting killed over it, and I used to have the same nightmares about my daughter years ago when she was a baby too. Now that I'm watching this video and being reminded of this case I'm thinking that this fear may have originally come from this case. I listen to a lot of true crime but cases like this are just too much for me
@@BriEMcN any crimes against children really make me physically ill. My kids are 9,18,21 now, the only thing that gives me a sense of peace is that we live in Australia. We don’t have the worries the USA has, but what happens there affects all of us too mentally. My whole family was absolutely shook with the last shooting that happened. We may be on the other side of the world but as humans with compassion what goes on there affects our mental too. RIP to those innocent souls 🙏🏻 I pray the USA gets their 💩 together
You are very lucky to be an Aussie and not an American...what I would do to move to Australia and live out the res of my life in peace and happiness
This was massive global news at the time, including in Australia. It shocked a lot of people, including 10 to 16 year olds because we used to ride our BMX bikes to McDonalds. The picture of the dead 11 year old boy next to his bike ( Omar) was on front page of every major newspaper, and led news bulletins. Anyone who was over about 10 years old in July 84 even outside of USA probably remembers this.
It was before the mass shootings in Australia, starting a few years later and well before Columbine. It scared and shocked tf out of many people at the time.
OMG I was about to look into this case last night but fell asleep And boom here you are!!! Thank you so much my friend xx 😊
I remember this well. To this day, I still think the police/swat could have taken him out before he harmed that many people/children. I am glad that McDonalds ( for once ) actually thought hard enough to not reopen that spot. I'm thankful to whom ever had a memorial built on the scene.
There was no such thing as active shooter training back then, protocol was to set up a perimeter wait for SWAT or negotiate. We have the benefit of hindsight and I think that gets lost on alot of people. Especially when the victims evoke such raw emotions i.e. children.
That's a joke Close to 2 decades prior to the McDonald's massacre. A military trained sharp shooter, barricaded himself in the Tower at the University of Texas.
The incident lasted longer, but it wasn't because of a mixture of incompetence and cowardice like the shooting in San Diego. Numerous officers and civilians risked, and some lost their lives trying to save others. They constantly engaged the shooter drawing his fire to drag the wounded to safety, eventually entering the tower and taking him out.
And there was fundamental training for dealing with all types of scenarios, including the one at McDonald's. They had the building surrounded but refused to breach, and that's in spite of the fact they were told by those who escaped he wasn't taking hostages, soley murdering people, they knew full well any wounded inside would bleed out, if they didn't take immediate action. There were at least 150 cops on the scene, yet they left the unarmed men, women and children at the mercy of a sadistic degenerate.
The fact that they were called out for lying by the survivors says it all. Whether it was Columbine, Sandy Hook, the Gabrielle Gifford shooting in Tucson, even Uvalde. All of those shootings had unarmed civilians either challenging the shooters, or running into the direction of the gunfire to save others. Some live others didn't.
There's zero excuse for those in a position to help doing nothing. The first cop on the scene talked having an inadequate weapon. A claim I don't dispute, but imagine how the unarmed people in McDonald's who could only use their bodies to shield their loved ones felt.
Don't wear a badge and uniform if you're not willing to sacrifice in the service of others.
@@shadysif6220It’s completely different to have a long gun man on a tower and a gun man who is in a building with many people and is constantly moving around.
Official reports show that these guys didn’t have the proper equipment or training and they couldn’t do anything until the swat team came.
“Imagine how unarmed people who could only use their bodies felt” is completely irrelevant. You want the officer to run up to the building only to also get shot and killed? You’re basically saying “oh those people inside got shot and weren’t able to protect themselves, let’s send guys who wouldn’t fair much better to do the same”
This is terribly sad. All your stories are but this was heart wrenching in a different way for me. Thank you for covering this story, I’ve never heard it before.
Jiles is one of my favs omg. He doesn’t even sleep so he can help our insomniac a$$es lol
Midnight here.
@@moosenbeans903 3pm in Toronto lol
230 in California
Always enjoy your videos.
Thank you for standing up for the mentally ill.. You are right most are more likely to be taken advantage of!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This applies, as well, to people such as I, who have traumatic brain injuries. But then, people have a reflexive reaction that people with TBIs might be dangerous in their own way. This is ridiculous.
But addicts are mentally ill 😩. It’s really an issue when addicts are looked at as not mentally ill. We’re taking two steps forward and ten back with that thinking. It makes more sense to say non drug addicted mentally ill ppl.
@@Januaryjenkins yes and no.. treating addiction is also a medical issue..
And drug induced psychosis without an underlying condition is not classed as mental illness in Australia at least.. there is a lot of binge drug use which is more associated with ice and things like that
He’s the Devil not ILL
Your research is just so top notch. Love your videos! Thank you thank you for coverage!
Bitter, twisted, narcissist who was filled with hate while blaming others for his inadequacies. . Life is hard but most people reinvent themselves and move on. And the murders of innocent people just go on and on.
Thank you!! Love Monday shows!!
"James Huberty killed 21 people, 22 including the unborn baby."
So, is the unborn baby not a person? What is it then? I think it's a person. RIP sweetheart.
Don
Democrats are crying about children shot by gun violence while killing as many children as they want through abortion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Of course we love your show ..Monsters and the Monster man is the best on the web...
Thank you for all your hard work..I for one love it and appreciate it
I remember this like it was yesterday. I was visiting my parents who lived in the area. I remember how chilling it was to hear about these mass killings. Thank you for the very detailed and informative video. Awesome that one of the McDonald workers became a police officer! Sad it took so very long for the police to take the shooter out!
Zelia Huberty saying she’d go back in time and kill her father is such a girl boss move. I love her
Well she sure as hell wasn't going to say she supported him.
She also said "better them than me" sounds just like her father to me...
@@tessla7675 correct, like father, like daughter. she most probably meant this to have avoided, what public did to her afterwards for being the daughter of a killer.
24:00 Thank you for statically broadening our knowledge about frequency distribution of violent acts against strangers, across offenders suffering from mental illness. People who fit into “the mainstream” or deem themselves as “normal” have very [high suspicion] and [low respect] toward those who display any expression of “disorder”.
Addicts usually do have an underlying mental illness though. Addiction is literally a mental ill-….never mind
@@Januaryjenkins addiction is a fascinating phenomenon…
A very interesting episode. Thank you for covering this MONSTER. Love your channel. Keep up the great work 👍👍.
Reminded me of what happened in Uvalde, Texas.
I've been waiting for you to cover this story!!!
Thank you for being compassionate to people with mental illness. Anytime it comes out that a person who commits a violent crime has mental illness it’s like “damn man. You’re making us look bad. We have enough problems as it is”
Amen haha it’s statistically proven we are more likely to be the victims in such violence
Hey!! This is the video I suggested on your post a while back. I Can't wait to give it a listen!
Imagine growing up with a last name that rhymes with puberty.
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My dad is a gun nut. He also has a personality disorder and PTSD from the Vietnam War. Once, when I was about 11, he got so pissed off at me that he held me at gunpoint. I was scared so I did the only thing I could think to do, which was run across the street and hide behind a telephone pole. I was too naive and upset to think reasonably, so I didn't ask a neighbor for help or call the police. I just sort of took it as something that was my fault and would probably happen again if I misbehaved around him.
When I became an adult, I started seeing a counselor. He helped me organize my emotions and evaluate my relationships. It wasn't the counselor's idea, but I decided not to associate with my dad anymore for what he did to me. Of course there were other abuses, but the gun was not an acceptable behavior.
It's my opinion that guns should be much harder to obtain legally, because my dad had about 40 pistols and numerous rifles and shotguns, all of which he purchased legally. As far as the government is concerned, he is a responsible adult american who should never have his rights taken away. This is a delusion caused by brainwashing and bribery by the gun lobby, which is mostly the NRA. Politicians are beholden to this powerful group of idiots who change decent people into killers and terrorists.
@william The police have guns, and if I had called the police, which was appropriate, they would have taken care of the problem by peaceful arrest. It would have been much worse if I ran to a neighbor who decided to blow my dad away with a shotgun.
Most excellent a new upload ❤️
Doesn't anyone find it odd that law enforcement will use alot of weapons and force against a single person and when faced with critical situations evolving a real threat to their safety they avoid confrontation when they are trained to manage conflict.
I’m from Akron/Canton. Unbelievable how many monsters are from that area
"The police were immediately criticized for taking far too long to stop the gunman" is now a redundancy.