A friend of my husband died in this horrible massacre. We never could eat at a Luby's again. My husband was in the Air Force and had to talk with the chaplain about it. The ripple effects are so far-reaching.
@@hairyballing9901 With walk in crazes the feds have endless candidates for perfect timed false flag! Horrible waste when feds didn't have this guy checked by Mental Health staff.
@@hairyballing9901 like those "spontenous wildfires" recently which were so obviously done to make room for a particular road that the media had to eventually admit it was done on purpose... Every single time
I used to have trouble with paranoia. Then one day, I was taking a walk and a thought struck me: People don't think about me hardly at all. They have their own lives. There simply is no reason for them to be focused on me at all. I realized this, because I don't spend that much time thinking about other people either. Most of our thoughts are about ourselves. My paranoia slowly eased over the next year or so, and today it's gone almost completely. I can't tell you what a relief it is not to be stuck in that hole any longer.
Our social sensitivities are very strong and prominent, we get carried away with them sometimes. And in rare cases, you get someone who is simply born with or affected by a stroooong tweaking to this social aspect, and you get mental psychos like this guy.
It's true, people are almost always thinking about themselves or how things relate to them. Sales and psychology tactics all take advantage of this. So glad you were able to get yourself out of this, I had paranoia for a short period years ago and I know how scary and horrible it is. Not everyone can reason their way out of this, some mental health things get you even when you know it doesn't make sense, but again, so glad you are back to yourself.
I had a friend at Westwood High School in Austin TX, his name was Victor and his mother was killed during this. I never knew until he had a nervous breakdown, and if Victor is seeing this, I do miss you, and this was horrifying to here. I am so sorry and I still care about you as a friend
I'll pray for you friend...that's a burden that you shouldn't have to feel, but I know exactly why you hold that weight in your heart. We need to stop these things from happening, and someone like you could actual tell your pain. I'm so sorry brother, I've had the same pain that you do multiple times in my life, but do not let it discourage you from being a good person. Thank you for even making this comment....
this is weird, my dad was in Lubys that day. he lost 3 friends, but my dad lived with 2 gun shot wounds thanks to a couple that had a van, and rushed him to a hospital
I'm so glad your father survived such a horrific and traumatising event and I'm so sorry for the loss of his friends and all the other people who didn't survive.
@@pearcemark2 paranoia has nothing to do with being mean, vile, or an awful person. ;) ha told you, you make zero sense. I think ur just an awful person
I really think this highlights the problems of today's society. There is a rampant idea that if, "no one likes me, it is because they are bad. I don't need to change myself, they need to be punished." Total lack of personal accountability.
Like this "incel" (involuntary celibate) trend of late..."I'm such a loser and girls won't have anything to do with me. So instead of working on myself, I'm just gonna join other losers on Reddit to whine about how unfair it is that girls don't want to have sex with us. Then I'm gonna go out and kill a bunch of people. Because if I can't get laid, neither should they.
Yeah, you mean, it's a male problem. Women blame themselves if people don't like them. Men kill women who reject them. There's been a string of men killing women who rejected them for dates. Also, this guy was an incel/MGTOW/Trumpie before the internet. He was so thin-skinned he imagined crowds of white women conspiring against him, yet imagined two teenaged girls would welcome his creepy advances.
Wow, this one really got to me. I couldn't help but tear up when you talked about the elderly couple. This story is so tragic and senseless. My heart goes out to the victims and their families.
That couple’s daughter who escaped out the back window thought her mother was right with her. She had a concealed weapons permit and a gun in the car, but the restaurant had a no guns allowed policy, so she unfortunately couldn’t get to it in time to do anything. She went into politics to change the stupid laws about “gun free zones”. It’s been awhile but I believe her married name is either “huff or hoff” I believe. She testified in congress as well I seem to remember. It was a long time ago.
My grandma would eat lunch with her friends frequently at that Lubys, one day she left her purse at home and went back to get it, showed up at the Lubys filled with emergency vehicles, it gives me chills to think about
@@pearcemark2 this isn't paradise. This is the world of free will so bad things happen. Evil exists and does evil things but God protects people when it's not their time. Religion isn't weird. Believing in nothing is weird because the odds of this just being a random existence are so low it shouldn't even be possible.
This was one of the single most traumatic events of my childhood, and this is the first time I've ever seen it covered. His photograph was not plastered all over the news at the time. Never knew what he looked like before this video even though I lived in Killeen when this happened. My 4th grade math teacher's husband saved other patrons by throwing a chair through a window.
Same here. My priest at that time told the story in detail about having to go bless the deceased. At 19 back in 1990, that had a significant impact. We didn't have all the true crime stuff that we do now and there was maybe one murder a year in Killeen back then...
I'm sorry you went through this. I imagine it must be hard for someone so close to an event like this to see its details recounted. I hope you're doing well today.
If Luby's hadn't been busy that day my husband might not be here today. He was stationed at Fort Hood and went to grab lunch with some fellow soldiers. They went to Luby's and the lady at the buffet line said more food would be out shortly. They waited a few minutes at a table then gave up and grabbed food at Jack in the Box instead. By the time they got back to the base their phone lines were down. Seized by law enforce for communication during the stand off. 30 years later he still wonders if the employee he spoke with made it out alive. I'm just thankful my husband was hungry and impatient.
I lived in Killeen at the time this happened. I was 19. Sylvia was my hairdresser and her mom said she actually had a "bad feeling" and had called her daughter at the salon to invite her to lunch at her home instead of going to Luby's. She just missed her. My neighbor two doors down was a waitress there at the time and Matt, who hid in the dishwasher was my classmate in highschool. He suffered 3rd degree burns hiding there. I remember I was waiting for my mom to come visit me and my son at our apartment and she was very late which worried me. Then the shooting was all over the news. I was terrified that maybe for some reason she had decided to stop in for lunch there. Thankfully, she had got stuck in the traffic jam that resulted from road blocks and police securing the scene. It was the craziest thing that had happened in that small town at the time.
we were there too, military people living in killeen. That and waco convinced us to move back north where family was in indiana. Indiana is just known for making serial killers so thats better right? ugh
I dish-pigged for a brief time in my youth and my first thought when he mentioned the dishwasher was 'how could you do that without the water coming on and wouldn't it just kill you anyway?" thanks for confirming it did burn him. JC, the desperation you'd have to feel to choose hiding there...
I was living in on post housing at Ft. Hood when this happened. The breaking news announcement came on during my soap opera. I was panicked when I found out what was going on because my then 15 year old son had a tendency to cut school, and the school was nearby that Luby’s. I called the school and they assured me he was in class and they were on lockdown. It was the next day when I found out a friend of his was working at Luby’s and 2 of his buddies had cut school to go meet up with him. My son for some reason declined to go along. The boys were out back of the building when the shooting started. They took off running. The kid working there made it out the back door and ran, he was unharmed.
my brother in law was a private in the army based at fort hood when this happened. He was in the parking lot and helped some of the people near the front get out. He was honorably discharged from the service, but still has PTSD to this day, and is unable to eat in at restaurants, even fast food, out of fear a vehicle will hit the building. My husband and I were actually living in killeen when this happened but didnt know the future brother in law yet nor had anything to do with it ourselves. We were also there during the waco incident.
Sorry to hear your brother-in-law had to witness that horror and still suffers PTSD as a direct result. People forget it's not just those who die from gun violence, many survivors are also traumatized. George was such an evil cold blooded killer
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I love the way this channel takes the piss outta these pathetic killers and exposes them for the supreme douchebags they are. This case has always haunted/creeped me out but now it just makes me mad, so thank you.
Nah, OP is right. So many times the violent end is focused on. TIM does a great job showing what a lot of criminals are even in the most flashy of crimes: awful people who don’t care about others. Great at presenting the facts and stopping weird online worship of people who should be remembered for the atrocities they decided to go through with than as anti-heroes.
One after effect of this shooting that Luby’s popularized was offering a law enforcement discount to officers in uniform. This discount would encourage more officers to frequent these establishments thus having an armed presence inside more often than not.
For another mass shooter who hated women, you should research a Canadian guy named Marc Lepine. He shot up the L'ecole Politechnique in December of 1989. He was pissed off because women were being admitted to the engineering program there, but he had been rejected. It's an interesting but also pretty disturbing case.
It's insane how much of a small town Austin, Killeen and Belton used to be considering all the comments and people in them saying that they had someone they knew that's part of this event or knew them directly somehow. And how it's different now. But this is a rollercoaster of a story. Thank you for covering this!
It’s not about the size of the town, when it comes to Fort Hood it is very conceivable that someone was either stationed there or knew someone who was. It is the largest Army base in America, right? I don’t find it odd at all, I mean why say you knew or know of someone involved in something? They get no money or anything from it, so why take the piss out of them?
@@CoExist64 i meant it more of as a thing I find fascinating as a whole, not only specific to the ATX et al area but just in general how the passage of time will grow cities larger and the more densely compact, the greater the distance between strangers seems to grow while physically being near one another. Meanwhile, before it was great distance between two people in two towns but plenty of them all knew each other. It's just a beautiful phenomenon in my opinion. :) But I am also no stranger to it myself. "It's a small world" indeed. Especially specific to ATX, Killer and the base indeed. You're definitely not wrong at all. :)
Yeah, I was thinking the same when I read these comments. Sounds like a lotta ppl were affected, even if it was just hearing the story from a friend or family member....like a ripple effect on a lake, a morbid ripple effect
Dude I hope you’re super proud of your channel. I’ve never seen someone in my life pump out so much detailed true crime stories told in story format before. You do An amazing job and it perfect for my work breaks!
*Somewhere Sinister & This Is Monsters* Thank you so much for posting your work on TH-cam for those of us who can’t afford Patreon. Lots of your subs run into each other in random true crime comments sections all over the place! We try to grow your channels by telling others about your work. I hope it’s helping! Thank you so much for the excellent content!
I usually get bullied and insulted for using Brian’s name, but I’m a guitar player for my living, and my ex is friends with him since the Primus days, so I actually have permission to use the name! (Plus, everyone can clearly see that I’m a girl, and not pretending to be him! Lol) You’re awesome!
Yay! I absolutely love the way you present these stories. I definitely appreciate when you recap what is said during an interrogation scene and things like that because the audio is not always clear and it really helps! Thank you for all your hard work, it definitely shows!!
Right? Far too many of these JCS clones just let the interrogation footage play for hours, while adding very minimal commentation. If you're not going to explain what's going on or adding your two cents on the case, what's even the point?
Thanks for clear presentation. Many people think they must load up on background music which makes them sometimes impossible to listen to by the hearing impaired.
Although what he did is terrible and the idea of someone thinking they're being stalked by a gang of white women sounds odd at face value, gang stalking is a very commond delusion. The delusions are very real for the person experiencing them and often misunderstood by others when and if they become aware of him. His untreated mental health is what likely led to such a terrible loss of lives. Everyone suffers when this goes unnoticed or undiagnosed.
@@wangathin You too? Is the leader Van Nguyen? He’s been on my case for years stopping me from moving up the shelf packing ladder (not the actual ladder, it’s a metaphor). Glass ceiling my fat ass, it’s small build Indochinese men with halitosis that have stopped me realising my full potential in the grocery sector.
@@billy6pack887 sometimes it’s not about the looks, personality plays a big part in it too. Like Elliott Rodger, he wasn’t a bad looking guy, but, that personality 😖
This is the comment I was looking for. I know that people keep saying he could’ve had mental health issues such as hallucinations with schizophrenia but he just sounds like an InCell. That seems to be what they say also it’s all about women ~he would have different types of hallucinations if he was schizophrenic, right?
As always, an immensely enjoyable, informative, fascinating insight into the squirming mind of an unhappy bully who just wants everyone to suffer because he's unhappy. Brilliant work on text, narration and research. Im starting on your second channel today, but I know it will be excellent. Best of luck to you.
This was horrible for all of us "native Texans". I was already reading crime story books thanks to Bundy, but for this to happen so close to home just brings heartache to me. People didn't want to eat at Lubys anywhere after this. Just totally sad case.
Yep me too. As a Texan I remember this day so well. Someone storming into a building and shooting dozens of people was just unheard of at the time. Now it is all too common.
@@wowplayer160 who said anyone made her do anything? True crime is an intrest of many people, sounds like bundy was just the first story she found intriguing. Not that anyone "made" her do anything.
@@wowplayer160 For someone to get their undies in such a bunch over a serial killer you would think you were related to Bundy lol. Are you??😳 Or maybe you just couldn’t find anyone or anything better to b*^ch about today? You seriously sound like the biggest dumb*ss and the funniest thing is you probably think you sound so smart and witty!🙄😂
I just wanted to say, I've been a fan almost since the beginning and I'm loving the newer layout of starting out with a wild situation before going into the history of the criminal. Also glad you rerecorded the ended part about domestic abuse - it used to be a bit jarring since your speaking style has changed. It's much smoother now. Anyway, thanks for all the great content as always!
This happened right before I was alive but I grew up in Killeen and remember seeing the Lubys building off Centex Expy before it became a Chinese restaurant. I also went to high school with one of the victim's sons as well. Good to see someone covering this story and getting more details behind this tragic event.
It’s called yank sing now. It has a decent Chinese buffet but I hardly ever see any cars out front, I guess when people see the building they can’t help but see the old Luby’s that had to close down because of this tragedy.
I remember this event vividly while being a child in Texas. I’m glad you did the memory of those lost the justice they deserve with such respect to detail.
Great job telling the story. I always carry. You just never know. I told my wife about this story while we were in Luby’s eating. She couldn’t believe it.
This tragedy is one of the main reasons we have concealed carry in Texas. A lady by the name of Suzanna Hupp was with her parents in Lubys that day. She had a gun in her purse but decided to leave it in the car because it was against the law to carry it. Her parents were killed by the gunman. She was a driving force lobbying the Texas Legislature for the laws. I believe she was a State Representative for a while. Yes, always carry.
I was at Fort Hood, TX when this happened. I was 19 years old and was having lunch at another place when this happened. We heard it all on the news, a Corporal from my unit was at Luby's with his wife for lunch, thank God they all escaped because of a large cowboy who broke the rear window allowing many to escape including my colleague.
11:06 "FK YOU JIMMY!!", "Jimmy wasn't having it so he picked up a wooden stake and smacked George in the collarbone with it and put him in a headlock and threatened to break his neck"😂🤣😂🤣 BEST SHIT I'VE HEARD ALL WEEK!! FK YEA JIMMY!!!!🤣🤘
You have the greatest voice! You have an incredible ability to tell stories. I also love the fact that you swear as people find it difficult to differentiate between words & actions.
I was living in Texas when this happened, and I remember all the news coverage but I don't remember all these details reported about Hennard and his life. This was before you could look up things on the internet, or at least it was at my house. I remember reading about the people cowering under the tables and thinking to myself "If I'm ever in that situation, I'll go down trying to stop the shooter not hiding!" A very easy thing to say when you've never been in a dangerous situation! I was alot younger then.
@@toericabaker Well, I don't really think he was the first, but most certainly he can be the first we hear about. I think this incel thing hit in after equality came, after that they weren't able to actually force a woman into marriage.
My brother and his coworkers had gone to Luby's every day that week. They happened to be running late that day. I have never forgotten that I could have lost him that day.
Man this was a lot of information for you to have to weed through. Kudos to you for doing such a wonderful job and thank you so much for the video! :-)
Shivers. I vividly remember where I was when I heard about this. I was in history class in 8th grade. Every day, for the first 15 minutes of class, we had to read the newspaper or a news magazine of some kind. We had tons in the back of the room. I remember reading the article from USA Today. It was the day after the shooting, maybe 2 days after. This was one of the first times I remember being so very troubled by violence. It hadn't dawned on me at that age (13), that you could actually do something so horrible to people. It stayed with me the whole day. Ever since then I have been super sensitive to stories like these. I feel really deep pain for the victims and families. Sometimes I wish I didn't care, or wish I didn't have an interest in this subject matter. But I do. Oh well. I love this channel, as fucked up as it sounds. And for some weird reason, the guy who narrates voice is very comforting to me. Ugh I feel like such a psychopath.
When this happened you couldn't imagine someone being so violent. You were 13. Kids today have to have lockdown drills and smear their classmates blood on them and play dead just to stay alive. The world sure has changed. And not for the better.
Tons of people like watching shows and movies about killers and psychos, it's a natural curiosity you shouldnt feel bad 😀 I think it's better anyway to be aware of the dark depths of humanity than to be blind to it like an innocent child. I've been reading "the knights of bushido" all about the war crimes of ww2 Japan, arguably some of the darkest stuff in recent history. Learnin all kinds of stuff, nothing wrong with that.
For every 1 story you tell that I'm already familiar with, you tell like 5 others I've never heard about. And even the stories I'm familiar with, you always tell me something new about it. I appreciate you bringing light to so many cases I've never heard about, you have one of the best channels in this genre on youtube.
So this is going to sound twisted and stuff but this season and the family annihilators are my favorite seasons so far. Also I would like to say thank you for taking the time to put out quality content. You and dreading are my top 2 favorites to see or get notifications from.
Please accept this information in a constructive way. I am trying to be helpful. I really enjoy your work and always learn details I did not know about the cases you cover. The issues I am pointing out are the only time I have seen you get anything wrong. And They are completely incorrect In Texas the Local Police are NOT informed by Firearms dealers of transactions. They play NO role in buying or selling firearms. Firearms dealers are regulated by the ATF. If a Dealer has a "Bad feeling about a sale" They are required by federal law to refuse the sale. The local police have nothing to do with people buying firearms in Texas. I have been in the gun business since the 1970's. I hope you find this information helpful. 😁
I grew up in a nearby town and my grandma worked on Fort Hood. She had a standing lunch date at Luby's with a few of her friends. The morning this happened my grandpa surprised her with tickets to Las Vegas so she packed some things and they left. One of her friends was shot and didn't make it.
I think that's the deepest I've heard of this story. This is my tv, my phone, so thank you for such good work. Including, not least your consistent message at the end of each, thank you
We really have to change the way we handle things. This guy carried a HUGE red flag. And ALL of the chances there were for him to be evaluated and treated or put in a mental institution (in the service and in rehab not to mention going to the FBI and showing THEM his big red flag). "There's nothing we can do" needs to go away.
I remember reading about this shooting and the 1984 San Ysidro McDonald's Massacre 7 years prior, so sad for the victims of these senseless crimes, it only goes to show how fragile our lives are and at any given moment, at any given location, anything can happen.
Jiles you are simply amazing! The effort taken to find such in depth research. Heard this one many times, never with this amount of information. Between Monsters and Somewhere Sinister you never cease to amaze. I have been here from the start. So greatly appreciate the lengths you go to for US your faithful listeners.
I suspect the lack of compassion regarding his psychosis is based on the misogynistic theme. It's rich to see some of the biggest cry bullies in regards to stigmatizing mental illnesses flip the script when it isn't their own mental illness. Kind of like those people who cry about gaslighting and then self diagnose their alleged perps with mental disorders. The true crime community has some of the biggest hypocrites I've ever seen.
Just want to thank you for changing "battered women's shelter" to simply "shelter." The former always made me cringe a bit. And thank you for putting out these videos week after week! I've been a listener for over a year ♥️
Why? Most abusers are male. Women are overwhelmingly the largest group of victims. Most men who are abused are abused by men. Why are you dismissing the vast majority of victims? Abusers love to claim they're the victim, though, like Depp and OJ, who sounds eerily like Depp falsely accusing Heard.
The event spawned many other events. But one result of this event was laws were passed in Texas that allowed people to legally carry concealed weapons. Suzanna Hupp was at Luby's that day with her parents. She was a lawyer and she often carried a pistol in her purse, but it was illegal so she feared getting caught and losing her law license. She was there with her parents that day and chose to leave her pistol in the car. Hennard killed both her parents. She got really pissed off. She became a state representative and fought to have concealed weapon laws that are in effect today. Hennard had an insane hatred for women, but because of his heinous act, women in Texas can protect themselves with firearms. So, in a way, he enabled women to defend themselves against creeps like him.
I grew up in TX and for some reason this event was always a bit of a punchline. Becoming an adult, I learned the true horror of the event. It does not make me optimistic about gun safety ever getting better in the state :/
This goes to show that rehab/mental health records need to be merged with the system background checks get put through. This guy wouldn't have had any guns if they were.
By 5:30 I've heard all I needed to hear. There is no monster like a drummer who randomly starts playing his own beat and leaves the group hanging. Lock him up and throw away the key
Such a wise comment regarding suicide: "A permanent solution to a temporary problem". Introduced your channel to my wife and daughter about two weeks ago and they have been binge watching ever since. Huge fans here, from the Rainbow Nation, 🇿🇦South Africa🇿🇦
I remember hearing an interview with a woman who said if she hadn’t left her pistol in her glove box in her car, she’d have had the opportunity to take George out. I was surprised that in the state of Texas no one was armed in that cafeteria.
So sad for all of the lives lost. THIS story terrifies me because, personality wise, this guy sounds just like my stalker, who is someone I knew from my childhood, who is so delusional and warped-thinking, believing somehow that we are together even though I am married, then in the next sentence blames me for him not dating anyone. He’s sick, truly. And it is so uncomfortably CREEPY that I fear that one day he will show up at my door again with that blank, shark-eye stare. The police did NOT help me, as I wanted them to order him to leave me alone or allow me a restraining order. But there was one detective along with a dear friend who is a MSW who have extreme concerns about this individual (as far as my safety). Take care everyone. I also pray that law enforcement (whom I respect) will investigate claims more thoroughly. I should not still be fearful of this creature 35+ years later. Edited to add: My stalker was also in the Navy, who was dishonorably discharged for some reason.
Tranquility 32 Wow...that's kind of a weird story. He is STILL stalking u after 35 years?? STILL? Uh ..if that's true, your husband is CLEARLY dropping the ball.
I've lived in Killeen most of my life . Killeen is a large city and still growing. I was a senior when this happened and lost several awesome people due to this . Out of all I seen and come across, I've never heard any of this concerning hennard. I guess this yet another view of this man .
I feel like Asian women are to blame for these stroking white men’s ego and making life hard for us. If they grew some backbone and stand up to their customers (instead of being so greedy) modern white men won’t be so entitled and misogynistic.
Do you figure this is an age thing? I’m 30 and a lot of my friends who were huge potheads in high school/college can’t do it anymore because it fucks with them mentally.
Lived in Killeen for years. It was just weird how this big restaurant space was empty right in town. Found out about that shooting from my commander who was at Hood at the time it happened.
He’s a very attractive man in his pictures. But, This just goes to show how much personality, can make or break, help or hinder, someone’s physical appearance.
Criminally underrated channel. Thank you for the great and consistent content as well as doing it in a respectful way unlike a lot of channels that cover true crime. Glad I found and subbed 🙏🏼🪬
I remember this we were celebrating my grandmother birthday n we almost took her to lubys for lunch but she wanted a home cooked meal instead, thank God.
Great job covering the story! I remember this story from an "I survived" episode where the daughter of the elderly couple had left her gun in her car & wished she had it to save her parents. Very tragic!
It was awful what this man did. Sometimes however I think you cover cases of people who are seriously mentally ill and in need of help but fail to recognise this and the failing of society to help them
I have a kinda personal connection with this mass shooting. I was born exactly ten years after on 16th of October 2001 and even in the same time frame on 12.42. Always found this creepy and disturbing
I was stationed at Fort Hood and then lived there for years afterward. My buddy and I went to go eat at a Chinese buffet in Killeen. Yank Sing, to be exact. Later on, I watched a video about this massacre, and I realized we had eaten at the site of said massacre. Same building and everything.
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A friend of my husband died in this horrible massacre. We never could eat at a Luby's again. My husband was in the Air Force and had to talk with the chaplain about it. The ripple effects are so far-reaching.
@@hairyballing9901 With walk in crazes the feds have endless candidates for perfect timed false flag! Horrible waste when feds didn't have this guy checked by Mental Health staff.
@@hairyballing9901 like those "spontenous wildfires" recently which were so obviously done to make room for a particular road that the media had to eventually admit it was done on purpose... Every single time
Fort Hood … Air Force 🤔
@@LuvLight44his friend was probably out and he probably knew him from his time in and the guy was probably living in killeen
@@LuvLight44there is Air Force personnel at Ft. Hood. Just because it's an Army base doesn't mean there aren't other branches there.
I used to have trouble with paranoia. Then one day, I was taking a walk and a thought struck me: People don't think about me hardly at all. They have their own lives. There simply is no reason for them to be focused on me at all. I realized this, because I don't spend that much time thinking about other people either. Most of our thoughts are about ourselves. My paranoia slowly eased over the next year or so, and today it's gone almost completely. I can't tell you what a relief it is not to be stuck in that hole any longer.
Our social sensitivities are very strong and prominent, we get carried away with them sometimes.
And in rare cases, you get someone who is simply born with or affected by a stroooong tweaking to this social aspect, and you get mental psychos like this guy.
It's true, people are almost always thinking about themselves or how things relate to them. Sales and psychology tactics all take advantage of this.
So glad you were able to get yourself out of this, I had paranoia for a short period years ago and I know how scary and horrible it is. Not everyone can reason their way out of this, some mental health things get you even when you know it doesn't make sense, but again, so glad you are back to yourself.
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you…
Words to live by💯✊🏾
I think this guy is beyond normal paranoia. He is completely nuts
I had a friend at Westwood High School in Austin TX, his name was Victor and his mother was killed during this. I never knew until he had a nervous breakdown, and if Victor is seeing this, I do miss you, and this was horrifying to here. I am so sorry and I still care about you as a friend
Westwood? I know it. I went to school in McNeil. And I heard about this
Rip to the victims
I'll pray for you friend...that's a burden that you shouldn't have to feel, but I know exactly why you hold that weight in your heart. We need to stop these things from happening, and someone like you could actual tell your pain. I'm so sorry brother, I've had the same pain that you do multiple times in my life, but do not let it discourage you from being a good person. Thank you for even making this comment....
I went to Anderson in Austin…. I went there with a girl whose mother was killed in this as well.
this is weird, my dad was in Lubys that day. he lost 3 friends, but my dad lived with 2 gun shot wounds thanks to a couple that had a van, and rushed him to a hospital
Oh wow, glad to hear your dad lived, but sorry he lost his friends.
your dad is a certifiable bad ass apparently. Glad he was able to live on in spite of this loser.
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🤔🤨 For realz if so that's pretty messed up 😬😆
@scottmiller7001 oh shit how do you know if he is
I'm so glad your father survived such a horrific and traumatising event and I'm so sorry for the loss of his friends and all the other people who didn't survive.
“He couldn’t recognize that he was an awful person, so he took it up a notch and became a monster.” BARS!
Or untreated paranoia. But I guess.
@@MontanaNumba1People with untreated paranoia tend to be awful people
@@pearcemark2yeah because the untreated paranoia… so your comment makes no sense
@@King-js7nw It makes perfect sense.
@@pearcemark2 paranoia has nothing to do with being mean, vile, or an awful person. ;) ha told you, you make zero sense. I think ur just an awful person
I really think this highlights the problems of today's society. There is a rampant idea that if, "no one likes me, it is because they are bad. I don't need to change myself, they need to be punished." Total lack of personal accountability.
Like this "incel" (involuntary celibate) trend of late..."I'm such a loser and girls won't have anything to do with me. So instead of working on myself, I'm just gonna join other losers on Reddit to whine about how unfair it is that girls don't want to have sex with us. Then I'm gonna go out and kill a bunch of people. Because if I can't get laid, neither should they.
Yeah, you mean, it's a male problem. Women blame themselves if people don't like them. Men kill women who reject them. There's been a string of men killing women who rejected them for dates.
Also, this guy was an incel/MGTOW/Trumpie before the internet. He was so thin-skinned he imagined crowds of white women conspiring against him, yet imagined two teenaged girls would welcome his creepy advances.
So true
Also probably some form of undiagnosed schizophrenia...
This happened 31 years ago, it's even worse now...
30:15 *"at the time it was the deadliest mass shooting in the country"*
It's so sad that we've had worse. =*(
George is only in 6th place now...
Wow, this one really got to me. I couldn't help but tear up when you talked about the elderly couple. This story is so tragic and senseless. My heart goes out to the victims and their families.
That couple’s daughter who escaped out the back window thought her mother was right with her. She had a concealed weapons permit and a gun in the car, but the restaurant had a no guns allowed policy, so she unfortunately couldn’t get to it in time to do anything. She went into politics to change the stupid laws about “gun free zones”. It’s been awhile but I believe her married name is either “huff or hoff” I believe. She testified in congress as well I seem to remember. It was a long time ago.
My grandma would eat lunch with her friends frequently at that Lubys, one day she left her purse at home and went back to get it, showed up at the Lubys filled with emergency vehicles, it gives me chills to think about
I hope that her friends were okay.
That was God that made her leave her purse. It wasn't her time.
@@gordonaliasme1104 only one of them was shot, I forgot his name but he took a bullet in his butt and I think he became a pastor afterwards
@@loboneiner1034So according to your logic, God didn’t like those other people? Religious folk are odd.
@@pearcemark2 this isn't paradise. This is the world of free will so bad things happen. Evil exists and does evil things but God protects people when it's not their time. Religion isn't weird. Believing in nothing is weird because the odds of this just being a random existence are so low it shouldn't even be possible.
This was one of the single most traumatic events of my childhood, and this is the first time I've ever seen it covered. His photograph was not plastered all over the news at the time. Never knew what he looked like before this video even though I lived in Killeen when this happened. My 4th grade math teacher's husband saved other patrons by throwing a chair through a window.
Same here. My priest at that time told the story in detail about having to go bless the deceased. At 19 back in 1990, that had a significant impact. We didn't have all the true crime stuff that we do now and there was maybe one murder a year in Killeen back then...
Blessings to you all
Thanks for sharing.
I'm sorry you went through this. I imagine it must be hard for someone so close to an event like this to see its details recounted.
I hope you're doing well today.
Wow that's wild.
If Luby's hadn't been busy that day my husband might not be here today. He was stationed at Fort Hood and went to grab lunch with some fellow soldiers. They went to Luby's and the lady at the buffet line said more food would be out shortly. They waited a few minutes at a table then gave up and grabbed food at Jack in the Box instead. By the time they got back to the base their phone lines were down. Seized by law enforce for communication during the stand off. 30 years later he still wonders if the employee he spoke with made it out alive. I'm just thankful my husband was hungry and impatient.
I lived in Killeen at the time this happened. I was 19. Sylvia was my hairdresser and her mom said she actually had a "bad feeling" and had called her daughter at the salon to invite her to lunch at her home instead of going to Luby's. She just missed her. My neighbor two doors down was a waitress there at the time and Matt, who hid in the dishwasher was my classmate in highschool. He suffered 3rd degree burns hiding there. I remember I was waiting for my mom to come visit me and my son at our apartment and she was very late which worried me. Then the shooting was all over the news. I was terrified that maybe for some reason she had decided to stop in for lunch there. Thankfully, she had got stuck in the traffic jam that resulted from road blocks and police securing the scene. It was the craziest thing that had happened in that small town at the time.
we were there too, military people living in killeen. That and waco convinced us to move back north where family was in indiana. Indiana is just known for making serial killers so thats better right? ugh
Blessings to you all
Using a gun to kill people does not make you a tough person. Just a coward with a gun.
I dish-pigged for a brief time in my youth and my first thought when he mentioned the dishwasher was 'how could you do that without the water coming on and wouldn't it just kill you anyway?" thanks for confirming it did burn him. JC, the desperation you'd have to feel to choose hiding there...
He should have tried dating Hispanic women.
Nice to see you cover less talked about events, always good to not let the victims be forgotten.
I was living in on post housing at Ft. Hood when this happened. The breaking news announcement came on during my soap opera. I was panicked when I found out what was going on because my then 15 year old son had a tendency to cut school, and the school was nearby that Luby’s. I called the school and they assured me he was in class and they were on lockdown. It was the next day when I found out a friend of his was working at Luby’s and 2 of his buddies had cut school to go meet up with him. My son for some reason declined to go along. The boys were out back of the building when the shooting started. They took off running. The kid working there made it out the back door and ran, he was unharmed.
my brother in law was a private in the army based at fort hood when this happened. He was in the parking lot and helped some of the people near the front get out. He was honorably discharged from the service, but still has PTSD to this day, and is unable to eat in at restaurants, even fast food, out of fear a vehicle will hit the building. My husband and I were actually living in killeen when this happened but didnt know the future brother in law yet nor had anything to do with it ourselves. We were also there during the waco incident.
Blessings to you all
Stay safe people. The best place is to stay indoors, but keep away from windows. Stay low. Don't forget Giles is a trained professional. 😨
is your brother afraid of carls jr as well? if so that sucks.
Sorry to hear your brother-in-law had to witness that horror and still suffers PTSD as a direct result. People forget it's not just those who die from gun violence, many survivors are also traumatized. George was such an evil cold blooded killer
@@wangathin 🙄😒 Jerk.
Two long episodes back to back. You the MVP of the true crime community
A minimum viable product (MVP) is a version of a product with just enough features to be usable by early customers who can then provide feedback for future product development.
@@Stichting_NoFa-p Rule 1 of the internet: Always clarify what you mean... lol
@@Stichting_NoFa-p , MVP usually stands for "Most Valuable Player".
@@Stichting_NoFa-p yeah if you live all day in nerdville and never go anywhere
@@strife3084 No, that definition has way less results when you search it.
I love the way this channel takes the piss outta these pathetic killers and exposes them for the supreme douchebags they are. This case has always haunted/creeped me out but now it just makes me mad, so thank you.
Nah, OP is right. So many times the violent end is focused on. TIM does a great job showing what a lot of criminals are even in the most flashy of crimes: awful people who don’t care about others. Great at presenting the facts and stopping weird online worship of people who should be remembered for the atrocities they decided to go through with than as anti-heroes.
@@hairyballing9901 who, you?
@@hairyballing9901 Why not?
@SCOTT MILLER that's some backwards logic right there buddy
@SCOTT MILLER no I'm a conservative who voted for democracy.
One after effect of this shooting that Luby’s popularized was offering a law enforcement discount to officers in uniform. This discount would encourage more officers to frequent these establishments thus having an armed presence inside more often than not.
For another mass shooter who hated women, you should research a Canadian guy named Marc Lepine. He shot up the L'ecole Politechnique in December of 1989. He was pissed off because women were being admitted to the engineering program there, but he had been rejected. It's an interesting but also pretty disturbing case.
@Cheryltwin2012,never of heard of him.
He sounds terrifying 🥺🥺🥺🥺.
The saddest part of that case to me is that he lined up his victims and spared all the men…
It's insane how much of a small town Austin, Killeen and Belton used to be considering all the comments and people in them saying that they had someone they knew that's part of this event or knew them directly somehow. And how it's different now.
But this is a rollercoaster of a story. Thank you for covering this!
It’s not about the size of the town, when it comes to Fort Hood it is very conceivable that someone was either stationed there or knew someone who was. It is the largest Army base in America, right? I don’t find it odd at all, I mean why say you knew or know of someone involved in something? They get no money or anything from it, so why take the piss out of them?
@@CoExist64 i meant it more of as a thing I find fascinating as a whole, not only specific to the ATX et al area but just in general how the passage of time will grow cities larger and the more densely compact, the greater the distance between strangers seems to grow while physically being near one another. Meanwhile, before it was great distance between two people in two towns but plenty of them all knew each other. It's just a beautiful phenomenon in my opinion. :) But I am also no stranger to it myself. "It's a small world" indeed. Especially specific to ATX, Killer and the base indeed. You're definitely not wrong at all. :)
Yeah, I was thinking the same when I read these comments. Sounds like a lotta ppl were affected, even if it was just hearing the story from a friend or family member....like a ripple effect on a lake, a morbid ripple effect
Austin is Travis County. Literally two hours away from Killeen,Ft Hood and Belton, ALL are in Bell County.
When you see a story about an event you were close to, it's natural to stop and watch.
Highly underrated!! Your voice, your story telling and your passion is greatly appreciated! Nailed it like always ❤️❤️
Why do you say he's highly underrated?
Dude I hope you’re super proud of your channel. I’ve never seen someone in my life pump out so much detailed true crime stories told in story format before. You do An amazing job and it perfect for my work breaks!
I agree
I agree as well
Coffee Crime is good as well. ❤
“George is a lousy lover!🪧“ 😂
Georgie Porgie
@@Puffypoo574 ... "kissed the girls and made them cry."
Thanks!
Thanks to you!
I was 26 and a soldier at Ft Hood. When I heard about it, I called home and said I was OK. Minutes later, you couldn’t get a call out.
*Somewhere Sinister & This Is Monsters* Thank you so much for posting your work on TH-cam for those of us who can’t afford Patreon. Lots of your subs run into each other in random true crime comments sections all over the place! We try to grow your channels by telling others about your work. I hope it’s helping! Thank you so much for the excellent content!
He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage. He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead!
@@purecheet0dust OMG I LOVE YOU FOR KNOWING THAT!!!
I usually get bullied and insulted for using Brian’s name, but I’m a guitar player for my living, and my ex is friends with him since the Primus days, so I actually have permission to use the name! (Plus, everyone can clearly see that I’m a girl, and not pretending to be him! Lol) You’re awesome!
That's amazing that you actually know him. The man can shred. Even cooler that you know the colonel. One of my best memories is seeing C2B3 live.
@@purecheet0dust I wish I was as cool as all that, but it’s my ex who actually “knows” him from NAMM show, festivals, and clinics
Yay! I absolutely love the way you present these stories. I definitely appreciate when you recap what is said during an interrogation scene and things like that because the audio is not always clear and it really helps! Thank you for all your hard work, it definitely shows!!
He really is the best in the true crime game 😤 guy is so underrated! Him, Dreading and coffeehouse crime are the best
@@bigdadybojangls9219 why do you say he's underrated?
PS
That Chapter is the cream of the crop, you should check him out.
Right? Far too many of these JCS clones just let the interrogation footage play for hours, while adding very minimal commentation. If you're not going to explain what's going on or adding your two cents on the case, what's even the point?
Thanks for clear presentation. Many people think they must load up on background music which makes them sometimes impossible to listen to by the hearing impaired.
that picture at 2:13 made me laugh so hard haha! great video and impeccable delivery as always, thank you for your dedication :)
Lol yah.... that made me laugh too
i usually only listen.. thank you for bringing my attention to that lmao
Thank for covering this. Good on ya, mate!
😂😂😂… the women with the George hating signs are priceless !!!
"This is What The B**tches of Bell County have Done to Me". He was such a Gotdamn Misogynist P*ick.
Although what he did is terrible and the idea of someone thinking they're being stalked by a gang of white women sounds odd at face value, gang stalking is a very commond delusion. The delusions are very real for the person experiencing them and often misunderstood by others when and if they become aware of him. His untreated mental health is what likely led to such a terrible loss of lives. Everyone suffers when this goes unnoticed or undiagnosed.
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We now understand how to diagnose & treat most paranoid psychosis. Now we need to work on our compassion!
i always feel that theres a gang of short vietnamese men following me around and costing me jobs at super markets.
@@wangathin You too? Is the leader Van Nguyen? He’s been on my case for years stopping me from moving up the shelf packing ladder (not the actual ladder, it’s a metaphor). Glass ceiling my fat ass, it’s small build Indochinese men with halitosis that have stopped me realising my full potential in the grocery sector.
Bullshit.
The first incel…
You being able to catch a shot of the white women holding signs on the poor guy is why I freaking love this channel
Lol he's a good looking guy too. Not gay but he is. I dunno weird sh**....
@@billy6pack887 sometimes it’s not about the looks, personality plays a big part in it too. Like Elliott Rodger, he wasn’t a bad looking guy, but, that personality 😖
This is the comment I was looking for. I know that people keep saying he could’ve had mental health issues such as hallucinations with schizophrenia but he just sounds like an InCell. That seems to be what they say also it’s all about women ~he would have different types of hallucinations if he was schizophrenic, right?
Wrong it was Mutsuo Toi from Japanese, Tsuyama... He was a 21 year old that killed 30 of his neighbors
As always, an immensely enjoyable, informative, fascinating insight into the squirming mind of an unhappy bully who just wants everyone to suffer because he's unhappy. Brilliant work on text, narration and research. Im starting on your second channel today, but I know it will be excellent. Best of luck to you.
This was horrible for all of us "native Texans". I was already reading crime story books thanks to Bundy, but for this to happen so close to home just brings heartache to me. People didn't want to eat at Lubys anywhere after this. Just totally sad case.
Yep me too. As a Texan I remember this day so well. Someone storming into a building and shooting dozens of people was just unheard of at the time. Now it is all too common.
No one is making you pollute your mind with crime novels. Bundy isn't nor is youtube.
@@wowplayer160 who said anyone made her do anything? True crime is an intrest of many people, sounds like bundy was just the first story she found intriguing. Not that anyone "made" her do anything.
@@wowplayer160 For someone to get their undies in such a bunch over a serial killer you would think you were related to Bundy lol. Are you??😳 Or maybe you just couldn’t find anyone or anything better to b*^ch about today? You seriously sound like the biggest dumb*ss and the funniest thing is you probably think you sound so smart and witty!🙄😂
@@wowplayer160 Where did you come up with OP being forced to "pollute" their mind? Did you read the same comment?
I just wanted to say, I've been a fan almost since the beginning and I'm loving the newer layout of starting out with a wild situation before going into the history of the criminal.
Also glad you rerecorded the ended part about domestic abuse - it used to be a bit jarring since your speaking style has changed. It's much smoother now.
Anyway, thanks for all the great content as always!
Haha yea the end would wake me up out of a deep sleep sometimes
@@beezlebub3955 lol same
This happened right before I was alive but I grew up in Killeen and remember seeing the Lubys building off Centex Expy before it became a Chinese restaurant. I also went to high school with one of the victim's sons as well. Good to see someone covering this story and getting more details behind this tragic event.
It’s called yank sing now. It has a decent Chinese buffet but I hardly ever see any cars out front, I guess when people see the building they can’t help but see the old Luby’s that had to close down because of this tragedy.
I remember this event vividly while being a child in Texas. I’m glad you did the memory of those lost the justice they deserve with such respect to detail.
Your voice is one of my favs! You definitely know how to tell a story! 📖
Great job telling the story. I always carry. You just never know. I told my wife about this story while we were in Luby’s eating. She couldn’t believe it.
This tragedy is one of the main reasons we have concealed carry in Texas. A lady by the name of Suzanna Hupp was with her parents in Lubys that day. She had a gun in her purse but decided to leave it in the car because it was against the law to carry it. Her parents were killed by the gunman. She was a driving force lobbying the Texas Legislature for the laws. I believe she was a State Representative for a while. Yes, always carry.
I was at Fort Hood, TX when this happened. I was 19 years old and was having lunch at another place when this happened. We heard it all on the news, a Corporal from my unit was at Luby's with his wife for lunch, thank God they all escaped because of a large cowboy who broke the rear window allowing many to escape including my colleague.
I remember reading about the guy who broke through the window.
11:06 "FK YOU JIMMY!!", "Jimmy wasn't having it so he picked up a wooden stake and smacked George in the collarbone with it and put him in a headlock and threatened to break his neck"😂🤣😂🤣 BEST SHIT I'VE HEARD ALL WEEK!! FK YEA JIMMY!!!!🤣🤘
You have the greatest voice! You have an incredible ability to tell stories. I also love the fact that you swear as people find it difficult to differentiate between words & actions.
He never disappoints!
I was living in Texas when this happened, and I remember all the news coverage but I don't remember all these details reported about Hennard and his life. This was before you could look up things on the internet, or at least it was at my house. I remember reading about the people cowering under the tables and thinking to myself "If I'm ever in that situation, I'll go down trying to stop the shooter not hiding!" A very easy thing to say when you've never been in a dangerous situation! I was alot younger then.
Wasn’t this when active shooter protocols wasn’t what it is now though?
Now they say if you’re cornered with people fight back
THE GORGIE PROGIE SIGN SENT ME. 🤣 Love every season, but this one has really got me, Giles. Good work. ❤️👍
The story of the first incel.
Thanks for covering this story! Never heard it before.
🤔I just asked that question. He sounds like an incel right?!
Only if you look at the motivations extremely broadly, but it seems this guy suffered from gang stalking delusions
@@toericabaker Well, I don't really think he was the first, but most certainly he can be the first we hear about. I think this incel thing hit in after equality came, after that they weren't able to actually force a woman into marriage.
@@klown463 Yes, that is totally true. But most incel have a similar delusion, just not that strong maybe.
@@thubakabra Incel was started by an undatable woman, btw.
My brother and his coworkers had gone to Luby's every day that week. They happened to be running late that day. I have never forgotten that I could have lost him that day.
Man this was a lot of information for you to have to weed through. Kudos to you for doing such a wonderful job and thank you so much for the video! :-)
There is very little information out there on Henard. I was surprised to find this.
Regular listener here, these are so well done-the somewhere sinister channel is same high quality content and treatment
Appreciate you man
I really enjoy your narrations and story telling.
I love that you give them their names back. Thank you.
Shivers. I vividly remember where I was when I heard about this. I was in history class in 8th grade. Every day, for the first 15 minutes of class, we had to read the newspaper or a news magazine of some kind. We had tons in the back of the room. I remember reading the article from USA Today. It was the day after the shooting, maybe 2 days after. This was one of the first times I remember being so very troubled by violence. It hadn't dawned on me at that age (13), that you could actually do something so horrible to people. It stayed with me the whole day. Ever since then I have been super sensitive to stories like these. I feel really deep pain for the victims and families. Sometimes I wish I didn't care, or wish I didn't have an interest in this subject matter. But I do. Oh well. I love this channel, as fucked up as it sounds. And for some weird reason, the guy who narrates voice is very comforting to me. Ugh I feel like such a psychopath.
When this happened you couldn't imagine someone being so violent. You were 13. Kids today have to have lockdown drills and smear their classmates blood on them and play dead just to stay alive. The world sure has changed. And not for the better.
Tons of people like watching shows and movies about killers and psychos, it's a natural curiosity you shouldnt feel bad 😀
I think it's better anyway to be aware of the dark depths of humanity than to be blind to it like an innocent child.
I've been reading "the knights of bushido" all about the war crimes of ww2 Japan, arguably some of the darkest stuff in recent history. Learnin all kinds of stuff, nothing wrong with that.
You are killing it between the 2 channels. I love it but don't burn yourself out.
For every 1 story you tell that I'm already familiar with, you tell like 5 others I've never heard about. And even the stories I'm familiar with, you always tell me something new about it. I appreciate you bringing light to so many cases I've never heard about, you have one of the best channels in this genre on youtube.
28:50 I believe most of us want a love like that. What a compassionate, courageous woman.
These stories are what gets me thru my work day! Love the content and the narration! Thanks for helping my sanity!
So this is going to sound twisted and stuff but this season and the family annihilators are my favorite seasons so far. Also I would like to say thank you for taking the time to put out quality content. You and dreading are my top 2 favorites to see or get notifications from.
Great presentation as always. Love your channel. Keep up the great work. Love the humor as well.👍👍
Please accept this information in a constructive way. I am trying to be helpful. I really enjoy your work and always learn details I did not know about the cases you cover.
The issues I am pointing out are the only time I have seen you get anything wrong. And They are completely incorrect
In Texas the Local Police are NOT informed by Firearms dealers of transactions. They play NO role in buying or selling firearms.
Firearms dealers are regulated by the ATF. If a Dealer has a "Bad feeling about a sale" They are required by federal law to refuse the sale.
The local police have nothing to do with people buying firearms in Texas. I have been in the gun business since the 1970's. I hope you find this information helpful. 😁
Yeah, but all of that happened in Nevada. Not Texas. I even say that Mike took the form to the Henderson Police Department.
@@thisisMONSTERS Sorry I missed that. 😊 It is different in every state. Keep up the Great work! Thanks
It’s all good. I miss stuff all the time.
@@thisisMONSTERS Attention to detail, it might save my life. 😁
@@sambowz9077 You're a wholesome dude(or dudette)....👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I grew up in a nearby town and my grandma worked on Fort Hood. She had a standing lunch date at Luby's with a few of her friends. The morning this happened my grandpa surprised her with tickets to Las Vegas so she packed some things and they left. One of her friends was shot and didn't make it.
I think that's the deepest I've heard of this story. This is my tv, my phone, so thank you for such good work. Including, not least your consistent message at the end of each, thank you
We really have to change the way we handle things. This guy carried a HUGE red flag. And ALL of the chances there were for him to be evaluated and treated or put in a mental institution (in the service and in rehab not to mention going to the FBI and showing THEM his big red flag). "There's nothing we can do" needs to go away.
I remember reading about this shooting and the 1984 San Ysidro McDonald's Massacre 7 years prior, so sad for the victims of these senseless crimes, it only goes to show how fragile our lives are and at any given moment, at any given location, anything can happen.
Never have I ever come to this channel this early that the video still only had 20 views
I’m addicted to your videos. They make my commute more enjoyable when I see a new episode.
Jiles you are simply amazing! The effort taken to find such in depth research. Heard this one many times, never with this amount of information. Between Monsters and Somewhere Sinister you never cease to amaze. I have been here from the start. So greatly appreciate the lengths you go to for US your faithful listeners.
Once again, you have made my day. I absolutely love your work. Thanks Jiles
A great take on a video I haven’t seen yet .
Thank you for covering stories that a large majority of people haven’t heard of.
It’s one of the main reasons I love this channel.
Unfounded Paranoia is a sign of mental illness.
I suspect the lack of compassion regarding his psychosis is based on the misogynistic theme. It's rich to see some of the biggest cry bullies in regards to stigmatizing mental illnesses flip the script when it isn't their own mental illness. Kind of like those people who cry about gaslighting and then self diagnose their alleged perps with mental disorders. The true crime community has some of the biggest hypocrites I've ever seen.
Or just plain narcissism
Just want to thank you for changing "battered women's shelter" to simply "shelter." The former always made me cringe a bit. And thank you for putting out these videos week after week! I've been a listener for over a year ♥️
I appreciate it, too, all sorts of people need to get away from domestic violence, not just women, the inclusive language is muchly appreciated.
Whole-heartedly agree on all the above!
Why? Most abusers are male. Women are overwhelmingly the largest group of victims. Most men who are abused are abused by men. Why are you dismissing the vast majority of victims? Abusers love to claim they're the victim, though, like Depp and OJ, who sounds eerily like Depp falsely accusing Heard.
YES! Well said.
Agreed
On a lighter note, those 2 young ladies both have the Total 80's Hairdo going on. They were on point with the look back then for sure.
The event spawned many other events. But one result of this event was laws were passed in Texas that allowed people to legally carry concealed weapons. Suzanna Hupp was at Luby's that day with her parents. She was a lawyer and she often carried a pistol in her purse, but it was illegal so she feared getting caught and losing her law license. She was there with her parents that day and chose to leave her pistol in the car. Hennard killed both her parents. She got really pissed off. She became a state representative and fought to have concealed weapon laws that are in effect today. Hennard had an insane hatred for women, but because of his heinous act, women in Texas can protect themselves with firearms. So, in a way, he enabled women to defend themselves against creeps like him.
I grew up in TX and for some reason this event was always a bit of a punchline. Becoming an adult, I learned the true horror of the event. It does not make me optimistic about gun safety ever getting better in the state :/
A lot of people refuse to admit that guns are even slightly part of the problem. There's no getting through to them.
This goes to show that rehab/mental health records need to be merged with the system background checks get put through. This guy wouldn't have had any guns if they were.
@@JTidiotboy True, but why not also mention others that can’t admit/comprehend that an inanimate object can’t function without an animate operator?
@@remoevans7847 Yeah it turns out that guns dont actually kill people by themselves, no more than knives or vehicles or bombs etc.
@@ManDuderGuy But guns are the easier / usual choice when the objective is planned massive casualties.
You are great with all the crime stories you present but quadruple that greatness with stories new to me, thank you
By 5:30 I've heard all I needed to hear. There is no monster like a drummer who randomly starts playing his own beat and leaves the group hanging. Lock him up and throw away the key
Hahahahahaha🤣Yeah right??
Such a wise comment regarding suicide: "A permanent solution to a temporary problem". Introduced your channel to my wife and daughter about two weeks ago and they have been binge watching ever since. Huge fans here, from the Rainbow Nation, 🇿🇦South Africa🇿🇦
The FBI visit got me wondering about the criteria to “Baker Acting” someone.
George seemed to be a perfect candidate for a psych eval.
❤️🍀
I guess they didn't learn from the McDonald's massacre
I remember hearing an interview with a woman who said if she hadn’t left her pistol in her glove box in her car, she’d have had the opportunity to take George out. I was surprised that in the state of Texas no one was armed in that cafeteria.
She wasn’t allowed to conceal carry or she would have lost her professional license so she had to leave it. She later went on to get Texas law changed
So sad for all of the lives lost.
THIS story terrifies me because, personality wise, this guy sounds just like my stalker, who is someone I knew from my childhood, who is so delusional and warped-thinking, believing somehow that we are together even though I am married, then in the next sentence blames me for him not dating anyone. He’s sick, truly. And it is so uncomfortably CREEPY that I fear that one day he will show up at my door again with that blank, shark-eye stare. The police did NOT help me, as I wanted them to order him to leave me alone or allow me a restraining order. But there was one detective along with a dear friend who is a MSW who have extreme concerns about this individual (as far as my safety).
Take care everyone. I also pray that law enforcement (whom I respect) will investigate claims more thoroughly. I should not still be fearful of this creature 35+ years later.
Edited to add: My stalker was also in the Navy, who was dishonorably discharged for some reason.
MSW?
I hope your husband also has concerns for your safety
Tranquility 32 Wow...that's kind of a weird story. He is STILL stalking u after 35 years?? STILL? Uh ..if that's true, your husband is CLEARLY dropping the ball.
Get a gun. Now.
@@eangelillo Masters in Social Work.
I've lived in Killeen most of my life . Killeen is a large city and still growing. I was a senior when this happened and lost several awesome people due to this . Out of all I seen and come across, I've never heard any of this concerning hennard. I guess this yet another view of this man .
"White women! They're out to get me!"
Dammit, he's on to us! Back to the drawing board, girls. We'll get this random dude one day.
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Maybe he played that one Blonde song too many times...🎶One way, or another, I'm gonna find ya, I'm gonna get ya, get ya, get ya, get ya🎶
I feel like Asian women are to blame for these stroking white men’s ego and making life hard for us. If they grew some backbone and stand up to their customers (instead of being so greedy) modern white men won’t be so entitled and misogynistic.
He's dead.
That letter was something else 🤦🏾♀️
I live in Killeen, I remember that day we'll. The Luby's stayed open for years after but eventually closed, the building is a Chinese restaurant now.
Afterwards Luby's bricked in the bottoms of the windows to keep vehicles from crashing thru them.
20:52 Huh...so i guess misogynists calling women 'females' to dehumanize them is not just a modern thing.
I do remember this incident. At this time it seems like there were a lot of shootings at places like McDonald's, Post Offices, and Luby's.
And not a single “military style” aka scary looking “assault weapon” was used.
They're were. Ar san Ysidro the dude had a freaking uzi. In stockton,ca Patrick Purdy had an AK.
Thanks for doing stories no one else does! This one and James Holmes...yours is basically the only doc out there.
I quit smoking weed back in 94’ because it was making me really paranoid, I don’t think weed was this guy’s friend.
Do you figure this is an age thing? I’m 30 and a lot of my friends who were huge potheads in high school/college can’t do it anymore because it fucks with them mentally.
Lived in Killeen for years. It was just weird how this big restaurant space was empty right in town. Found out about that shooting from my commander who was at Hood at the time it happened.
So was George here technically the first incel?👀
Exactly what I was thinking
He was a paranoid delusional maniac
No... It was Mutsuo Toi, 1938
Great video!!! Thanks again 🇭🇲
He’s a very attractive man in his pictures.
But, This just goes to show how much personality, can make or break, help or hinder, someone’s physical appearance.
Criminally underrated channel. Thank you for the great and consistent content as well as doing it in a respectful way unlike a lot of channels that cover true crime. Glad I found and subbed 🙏🏼🪬
Criminally?
This guy has over half a million subs in like 2 years. Yeah, I wouldn’t call him underrated.
I just found this channel and I am loving it. I binge on true crime shows. This is one of the best.
I remember this we were celebrating my grandmother birthday n we almost took her to lubys for lunch but she wanted a home cooked meal instead, thank God.
I'm stationed at Fort Hood and was a kid living in Killeen when this happened. Needless to say, the Lubys isn't there anymore
Great job covering the story! I remember this story from an "I survived" episode where the daughter of the elderly couple had left her gun in her car & wished she had it to save her parents. Very tragic!
It was awful what this man did. Sometimes however I think you cover cases of people who are seriously mentally ill and in need of help but fail to recognise this and the failing of society to help them
I have a kinda personal connection with this mass shooting. I was born exactly ten years after on 16th of October 2001 and even in the same time frame on 12.42. Always found this creepy and disturbing
What is your personal connection?
I was stationed at Fort Hood and then lived there for years afterward. My buddy and I went to go eat at a Chinese buffet in Killeen. Yank Sing, to be exact. Later on, I watched a video about this massacre, and I realized we had eaten at the site of said massacre. Same building and everything.