As a parent, sitting 15’ away from this animal while hearing what he did to your son or daughter would be absolutely gut wrenching. I genuinely don’t understand how they kept it together. The restraint the families showed during this trial is one of the most incredible things I’ve ever seen.
Words matter, Cruz is a vile evil human not an animal. Animals don't kill to be famous, or because someone called them a name, if Cruz were an animal no one would have died that day, words matter!
@@patbrown2699 I think you’re looking at that term too literally. In a figurative manner, “animal” is used to demean someone’s character and paint them as inhumane. I don’t think very many people would read into the term “animal” in this context in a literal sense. Clearly, most people don’t have an innate disdain for actual animals.
@venus season dreams what is real to you? is there any school shooting or assassination that was real? or is everything fake? have you thought about if you are fake? maybe you arent real, just a brainless psyop yourself.
The doctor is not cold. He is a human being and obviously feels for the parents of the victims but it would be extremely unprofessional to go up there and start showing his emotions.
Considering that it could EASILY cause a mistrial, then his BEST EFFORT to control his emotions is the most respectful thing that he could possibly do for the victims AND their families. People can be so dense sometimes.
You can see the compassion in his eyes when he looks at the pictures, but the only way he can help is to do his job and remain as detached as possible. He wouldn't last long in his job and therefore wouldn't be able to help people if he didn't.
Yes agreed. As a Medic. We are trained to subside emotions in order to complete our jobs even under intense situations of a patient. But this is why a lot of us undergo heavily untreated stress when we are off our job. It’s not easy to mentally blunt such things
I’ve read a few comments about Dr. Osbournes’ demeanor, and feeling that he seems a little “cold” when describing the injuries. Medical providers, whose job it is to deal with trauma/death day-in and day-out, definitely develop the ability to disassociate from their emotions. They couldn’t do their jobs if they didn’t. People having anxiety, shock, and stress reactions have difficulty thinking clearly. In these particular professions, we desperately need those among us who can put these emotions aside temporarily to do these very necessary jobs. These people, like anyone else exposed to violence in a society, do take all of this with them however. All of the witnessed trauma and violence to human beings, big and small, creates a type of PTSD that each deals with in their own way. The brutality of our world is an astonishing thing, and these dedicated professionals act as it’s witness.
@@internetcensure5849 As someone who works with doctors, this man speaks exactly as any doctor who works with living people. You seem to forget that this man is working. He's on the job. He speaks like you would expect any professional would in the course of their duties. What emotions do you expect this man to show while doing his job?
@@internetcensure5849 People are not their jobs. Mentally healthy individuals are able to distance themselves emotionally from the challenging aspects of their jobs and carry out the job that they're tasked with doing. Just because they are able to do that, and you are not, doesn't mean something is wrong with them. Also, just because YOU think something is morbid doesn't mean it actually is. Having a professional interest in this area of science and medicine is not morbid. People die - it's a reality human existence, so it follows that there are also people would be interested in studying it working professionally in the field. Someone has to do the job; the need exists.
The doctor is awesome. He’s provided great detail and explanations of how things are caused and why . You can see it’s difficult for him to speak about these children who died . He too goes home with these images and details in his memory . It’s hard to tell families how their loved ones died .
I appreciate the professionalism of the doctor. I can see he was masterfully covering them, but the emotions are there. That is clearly a man who cares very much about his job, and is ensuring that his testimony is as thorough and respectful as possible to get justice for these victims. Checking on his notes for accuracy is already important, but the fact that he ensured it was acceptable to refer to them each time - he wanted to be sure nobody had room to say anything about it later. He is a man covering his bases and taking his job so seriously. He has my respect.
@@laurieb3703 Sad to say some people have to find something wrong or pick apart things with everything unfortunately. It would have been unprofessional for him to weep, cry, or be emotional during his testimony of evidence anyway. He would have been deemed unstable therefore not a credible source.
My deepest respect to him. His testimony is crucial. I'm sure that as much as he tries to control his emotions, he carries that horror with him. I think he reminds himself of the importance of his testimony to at least bring some justice to the victims.
Agreed! Btw, given that some of these wounds were contact wounds, he didn't just shoot into classrooms? Were these kids in the hallway going to or from the bathroom? I'm curious as to the step by step analysis, and how he was able to get in and out so easily and blend in, also where did he stash the gun? This could've been prevented with armed guards at locked entrances, bulletproof windows.
@@bryant475 he waltzed in with his gun, rang the fire alarm, then dropped it and walked right out when he was finished. :/ absolutely could have been prevented.
@@masxn_t2276 I thought the smoke from his gun is what set off the fire alarm. Idk I watched couple different school shooting vids so could be getting them mixed up
The doctor is amazing. I can see in his eyes he bears emotions and empathy for the parents, but you can't hear it and you can't see it from his body language. He is very professional and that's what I imagine the parents wants. They are going through enough pain as it is, imagine watching a professional break down that has dealt with death so many times. That would crush them completely.
It wouldn't crush them, they are already crushed. What it would do is validate that their loss, their pain is felt by a complete stranger who is one of millions in the public format that collectively empathize and innately know the pain these parents are experiencing
Yea im sure they were told they couldnt cry either!! No way i could be in that room hearing that and watching that murderer sit there and drawing pictures!!
@@michaelgriffith4110 what i'm sure they were told was that they couldn' disrupt the proceedings. meaning you can cry, just not the loud wailing and loud sobbing.
As a medical professional we are trained to separate our emotions to our visitors/patients. There’s a certain extent that we have to protect our own emotions as well. If you allow yourself to feel everything we wouldn’t be able to work in the field we are in
Do you have any “quiet rooms?” I have a relative who was previously a police dispatcher, and they had a room designated to go and take some time to themselves after calls.
I can tell you as someone who has worked in an ICU for 40 years, there ARE TIMES that our emotions for not only the patient, but FOR THE FAMILY , does get to us, and we do take it home, and its difficult to get it out of our minds. Many is the time I've got off shift, got in my car, and just sat there and broke down. Many times I've embraced total strangers and shared tears with them. My heart goes out to these family's whose lives are changed forever. Losing a loved one is always devastating, but to lose your child in this manner.....I cant even imagine it.
Do you have any idea how much it means to us for you to cry with us? Please be human. I'll never forget the ER doc and ER nurse who came to visit me in the ICU after bleeding out my entire blood volume with my 2 week old daughter in the waiting room. Knowing my life mattered to a complete stranger meant everything.
@@sara-mc3rk God bless you and your new little girl. Stay well and wishing you and your family a happy new year! Thx for your heart felt comment. Much appreciated.
If you look closely even the killers public defender's show body language of disgust for their client...but this is America and everybody gets council whether innocent or in this case already proven guilty ..frankly if I were him I'd beg for the death penalty ..I couldn't live with myself knowing I did that much evil
Yeah, he’s definitely having a hard time. It’s such a cruel situation for everyone, except of course the creature who did this. This trial is him victimizing these parents all over again and forcing this Dr to inflict more pain on them when I imagine his instinct is to protect them from details that they shouldn’t have to hear. Agreed, sickening and heartbreaking 💔
My mother's friend lost her son due to an argument he had with someone on a basketball court. He was stabbed 7 times by a guy who was residing illegally in the country. She never really recovered from his death and became a heavy alcoholic because of it. When people experience deep pain they never come back from it.
Probably not, you have to be numb to all this and being that he’s done thousands of criminal cases …he’s definitely not prob affected like the rest of us. Otherwise he wouldn’t oh chose this line of work I assume 🤷🏼♀️
The medical examiner's staff is probably experiencing awful nightmares from seeing children in that condition.. my experience working with the coroner during my time at university was hard work mentally, physically and psychologically. I wish the parents & the staff well
@@Hippie_chic_at_heart I wouldn't make that assumption. Just because you occupy a certain role does not mean you are unaffected by the natural human emotions that come with it. For certain people/in certain fields detachment might make things easier, but for others, caring and being passionate about what you do is what keeps you going. Detachment may not even be possible. First responders, coroners, medical care providers, this judge and people involved in the trial will all experience trauma at work and don't choose these careers because they're somehow above it. For example, my sister is a nurse and is affected by what she sees every day. She just makes a very intentional effort to seek supports for herself to deal with it and continue. She became a nurse because she cares and is passionate about providing care, not because being surrounded by people dying and in pain every day doesn't bother her. The people who occupy these roles can be professional and committed without being "fine" with everything. Everyone needs compassion and support, even (and especially!)if they've chosen to do what they know is going to be difficult, traumatic work.
Enormous respect to the doctor who kept it very professional and thanks to people like him in his profession, we can solve crimes and know what happened to our loved ones.
Hearing the autopsy findings, it’s like being able to see/ understand how it all played out and the fact that he literally doubled back to kill people he had already maimed and shoot them at point blank range shows that he knew exactly what he was doing. He wasn’t insane or having a mental break, he was just angry and full of hate and wanted to do as much PERMANENT damage as possible. I feel really bad for the families. They didn’t deserve any of this and neither did the kids who died / were injured and the teachers.
@ bratzatak - Really? You know this from your vast education in the mental health field, doctor? First, not all mental illness is the same. Lots of mentally ill people are quite capable of knowing what they are doing and processing their thoughts. It doesn't mean they are not mentally ill. Psychopaths can make elaborate plans and execute them to perfection, but what they lack is empathy.
@@ronnie_5150 You know this from your vast education in forensic psychology? One does not have to meet the criteria for a mental illness to be a domestica abuser. Mass shooters tend to have a history of domestic violence, especially toward female family, friends, and/or partners. The data about the mentally ill demonstrates that they are actually less likely to be violent than the general population. I know this because I got my first degree in Public Health. The debate on mass shootings gets twisted around mental illness to stop any legislation that would limit profitable sales of high-powered weapons favored by abusers/mass shooters. I'd say that makes the U.S. legislature mentally ill.
All I can think about is how that father began to cry when they read his child’s height and weight….I’m sure all he could think about was the day they were born and how much they weighed then😢 so sad I would never want to experience anything remotely this painful
An evil narcissistic person...who has zero care or regard for human life, except for his own...that's why he didn't ki!l himself...the only person he gives any care for...Is himself
This makes me so angry. I cant imagine sitting in the court room with a complete stranger who essentially took away the person you gave life to. Watched their first steps, their first smile and laugh, their first birthday, family dinners, movie nights, sports games, falling asleep in your bed because there scared at night, so many memories just for them to be taken away by one selfish person who you didn't even know existed. for no reason what so ever. it's not fair and I feel so awful for the parents
@@kp8890 he’s guilty no doubt, that’s not what they are debating though. They are debating whether or not he should be put to death or just in prison the rest of his life. The jurors need to hear how gruesome the details are of each and every victim, they need to see these parents faces and the footage/pictures of the crime scene, they need to hear how the survivors of this tragedy have to live with this trauma for the rest of their life in order to make that life or death decision. It may seem pointless but it’s not.
it’s unimaginable. So. So sad. I’m glad though that the perp has to listen to the details of what he caused. Im not sure id have to strength to go on if i was in those parents places. Breaks my heart and May they find some moment of peace in the future.
I'm a medical professional and we are definitely trained to separate our emotions from our profession. Early in my career I learned this the hard way after having preemie drug babies die on me. Emotions create burn out. Burnout creates negligence. This is why we're trained the way we are. 16 years later I can assist in any death or postmortem care and not react.
Over my years as a nurse I can agree with your explanation, unfortunately my experiences over the years eventually caused a burnout and I left nursing. I think there comes a point in time when it’s no longer possible to separate the emotions. That’s the time to walk away and take some time for self care. I had to leave the career I loved for my own health and the health and safety of the patients I cared for. I admire and respect the health care professionals who care for patients in traumatic circumstances every day and a deeper respect for those who have to recall those traumas accurately in testimony. It’s got to be the most difficult thing to recall especially with family and friends listening to that testimony. The last thing a medical professional wants to do is disclose traumatic information that will cause distress to family. The M.E has a difficult task to disclose important information tactfully, yet truthfully and completely. I imagine it’s somewhat traumatic for them also. This M.E is a consummate professional. Not cold and detached, just a dignified professional doing credit to his job and no doubt dreading sharing the details in court. This trial is heartbreaking for me I cannot comprehend what the families are going through.
@@ange1mom438 I can agree with this actually. I spent almost 17 years in the field. I also developed burnout. I've worked everything from ICU to urgent care to family med...once the burnout began for me I too hung up my stethoscope. I now bake but I do miss the field. I help people everywhere I go. It's still in me.
imagine having to hear such specific detail of the wounds that caused an immense amount pain for your child and ultimately killed them, in the same room as the person that inflicted the wounds. these parents are strong for baring this. i am usually good at maintaining composure, but if i were one of those parents, i know i would break down. i would have to try so insanely hard to not physically lash out at the killer when he’s in the same room.
The doctor btw did an amazing job testifying. I can't imagine how hard it must be to testify in front of families about the cause of death of their loved ones.
I was thinking that as well I think the reason why he stuttered a little is that he was thinking what's the best way to phrase this whilst being detailed but less distressing to the family.
I agree, I’m so impressed with the dr. Yes I can see the emotions cross his face when he looks out to the crowd but he stays on his notes. He has to click on and off between reported facts for the case and emotional impact of the lives he’s helping tell their last story for.
One of the weird parts for me was when the prosecutor asked the medical examiner why the exit wound was larger than the entrance wound. That's pretty much a physics question, which this guy clearly does not know. He could have kept it simple, and said something like the energy disperses into the tissue or something, but went on this fumbly attempt at incorrect specifics, and decided to just stop saying random science/math/ballistics terms, and sighed, dropped his hands, and looked down, closing his eyes, just totally giving up on the explanation. He then sucked in his lips and squinted, like he just dropped a plate and is waiting for the crash.
@@OutyMan He explained it perfectly, and simply. As a very experienced MD in his field, I’m sure he knows the physics behind these wounds better than any physicists.
This man is extremely smart you can just tell in how he talks, and how much school did this man do and 2500 autopsies is crazy to think about, and 120+ forensics cases is even crazier and I can’t imagine how he felt working in these poor young lost souls
Its like working with objects. When u work there u don’t really think of death people. You just go there smiling and ready to solve problems. Somebody has to do it. Its a beautiful job! I love it
You can see it with the movement of his eyebrows and heavy sighs whenever there is a long pause. When he talks about his work he is so professional, but when there is a break in testimony his subtle tells are heartbreaking. I'm glad the parents wanted to have this televised. Let the world know that these kids from every shooting aren't just some number on an ever increasing list. I also get satisfaction seeing that little demon squirm like a coward, not being able to face the horror he committed. Let it be known to other potential shooters that you could make it to a televised trial watched from millions of screens of people enjoying your discomfort. Instead of some mythical boogeyman only talked about on the News that people like this want to aspire to.
Adopción no Es la cura de todo. Este niño quieroa de ir al Mundo que sentía dolor de no tener su madre biológica y haber nacido en esta situación de ser un hijo que su madre no quería. El tiene un dolor enorme que nada más grita al mundo. Y por eso mato a tantos otros que no tenían nada ver con su dolor. La sociedad está mal. Babies are not blank slates!
I literally don’t know that I could go on….. I have respect and love for all of them and hope they find peace and strength in their kiddos memories. So sad and senseless. Your sweet angels will never be forgotten 😢
@@Nataku007 I'm not saying the jury shouldn't see them. I'm just heartbroken that this even happened. I'm just so sorry for the parents and the kids who have to relive all of this.
Those poor parents look so sad, lost, confused and angry.. you can just tell their lives hasn't been the same since that day.. you can tell they've cried everyday since, like it happened yesterday.. that pain will never go away for them. God bless them all.
I felt for them so much. They look so lost and sad. I see it in there eyes. It’s one thing losing a child but when it happens the way that it did it really traumatizing. I’m not religious but I hope there’s an afterlife where they can see their beautiful children again.
Break's my 💔 the look of horror disbelief! Pain grief Sorrow anguish anxiety hopelessness Rage! endless night's of no sleep around those dark circles that reflect in their eyes how much they have Suffered & Continue Suffering! Imagine Sitting there listening too how your child was brutally murdered by being gunned down by a Pathetic Psychopath & thinking of those last moments of fear Your Child had too live & that You weren't there too try too Protect them! but the Worse part of everything is knowing the Cause of everything horrible Your living is sitting right there at full sight of you? I Praise them! for being able too Control & hold back every emotion that they feel Cause I don't think I could do it 💔 Just watching these videos & listening too all the Statements from the families & especially the Mother's? Oh Lord that hurt's my heart 💔 My the Lord Continue giving them the strength they need too See this trail come too an end and even though it won't bring their Children back I hope they can feel Some kind of Peace & Justice!
Honestly, they bring to mind concentration camp survivors. The haunted, sad and yet blank faces. They have cried so much there are few tears left. And the dad on the right, in front of the other parents,, every so often he gets an angry look in his eye that is almost scary. But still haunted & blank.
Prayers for all the families . How does someone forgive such an act, well if God can forgive we also have to learn to forgive. May they REST IN PEACE. BLESS ALL THE VICTIMS. 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 HEARTBROKEN😥
To carry a child in your womb only to one day be taken by an evil soul- heartbreaking. My heart goes out to the Mum and of course the father. God bless them.
How horrible for the parents to see the pictures of their children in a table after an autopsy! That’s the worst nightmare that a human being can live through! I can’t even imagine…
@@natebarry5553 actually, a lot of times they have the photos displayed on the tv’s in the courtroom so both the prosecution and the defense can see what the expert is describing. That would mean the photos are also visible to the parents. They’re just not allowed to film those tvs and photos.
I don’t think the Doctor is being cold at all. I actually think he’s trying to be professional whilst recounting all of his horrific content and doing his best not to show too many emotions in a room full of the victim’s partners. Hats off to him for doing his job in such a professional and composed way.
Also, he didn’t know these children. He said he’s done 2500 autopsies. At some point, a body is a body. He has no information about their interests, activities, what they loved…none. It’s his career.
I'm more bothered about the upbeat way in which the judge ended the session. Her tone was far too chirpy, considering the images that had just been shown.
I think he actually is holding in a lot of sadness. A body isn’t just a body/ it’s the age and in the manner in which these children were killed, which to me seems like he would definitely be sincerely affected by that. But then I am sure when it’s time to do his work, he is professional and goes about it in a respectful and dignified way.
Not a single parent in that court room, didn’t have bags under their eyes, from all the tears & sleepless nights, since the day their child was taken from them. You can feel their despair, anger, sadness, & inconsolable pain & loss. No parent should ever have to bury their child. They are unbelievably strong for remaining in that room, where the murderer of their child, while they hear, how their child suffered & died. I know that not a single person that watched those poor parents cry, didn’t shed tears along with them, felt their pain, or sympathized with them. I’m a single mother of 3, one is no longer with me, in person. But he is always with me I’m spirit. I can sympathize with these parents, & know the never ending pain. ⚠️Edit: some people commented that these grieving parents have bags under their eyes, because they are old. Obviously those who commented this, are young, or fortunate enough to not have felt the horrible pain of loosing someone. Another said, they feel no empathy for someone “they don’t know, or knew existed”, & basically called me exhaustingly, & needlessly “emotional”. If feeling sympathy for a fellow human being that is in pain. Specially over the loss of their murdered child, while they hear how their bodies were damaged, & how they died. Make me a needlessly emotional person, then I guess I’m needlessly emotional🤷🏻♀️.
You guys riot from coast to coast when a scumbag like George Floyd dies and do not do anything when KIDS are being brutally murdered… Oh yeah, I forgot,you send thoughts and prayers.
This comment isn’t meant to suggest the women in the courtroom aren’t feeling exactly the same but I’m beginning to see as much anger in the faces of a couple of these fathers as I see grief. The self control it must take to keep yourself from getting booted out of the courtroom in this situation is immeasurable.
Yeah cos it's not true that women are more emotional or feel as open with their emotions. These fathers are struggling for their kids xx at times I'm glad I dont have kids or live in a country where mentally unwell pple have access to assualt weapons or any kind of gun.
The way all the families look out for each other is remarkable. I'm so sorry for all the loss you've had to suffer. No parent should have to bury their child, but this is a rotten world we live in. I pray for everyone involved. I hope you find peace and healing.
The Doctor sounds like such a sweetheart. You can tell he was getting choked up but kept it professional. I’m glad he couldn’t tell in what order a person was 🔫 no one needs to hear how a person suffered before they passed. 🙏🏽
The look of complete rage and utter heartbreak of her father is super telling. It's taking every ounce of strength he has to contain his composure and not strangle the piece of garbage who killed his daughter.
I get this Doctor. I respect him. He's professional. I've worked in a funeral home, housekeeper at a hospital and now as a caregiver for the elderly. We care, we show our emotions at the proper time. We Must stay professional on the job. Or we end up neglecting our clients, patients and/or the families. And we are there to help them.
Absolutely. His ability to speak of these atrocities help tell the stories of the children who aren’t here to tell them themselves. He speaks for the dead and sitting up there today, helped shine light on what a monster the shooter is.
Seeing these parents with a constant frown and deeply saddened just hurts man. Just hurts. I couldn’t believe having to be there for your dead child whose killer is sitting across the room.
The only reason I could even fathom being in that room with the killer of my child is to wait for the moment when justice is served... I hope it is served well for these families and that the outcome is what they hoped for.
@@hailst5744 brother don’t stress. God has moral perfection and every little transgression agaisnt him will be punished even things as small as lying and looking with lust
Those burns on the second victims wounds and that fact that the entrance wounds were on the anterior aspect of the body means that poor girl was looking at this animal in face as it was killing her. I cannot express how much hate I have for him. I cannot imagine what the parents are going through. The doctor did an amazing job. My prayers lay with all the families which have to suffer because of this animals actions
Hearing this as a viewer was already difficult. I can’t imagine how the parents must’ve felt sitting there and hearing these findings on their own kids
This is seriously such a terrible way to die. I can’t even begin to imagine this. I hope that animal gets what’s coming to it in prison hopefully by another inmate. A slow excruciating painful death would be mercy for this waste of breath
The implication of defensive wounds, the burn marks from the barrel being so close, and multiple fatal shots is really damning, feels like a good argument for death penalty.
Indeed. This evidence implicates Cruz's sadistic and cruel desire to kill and maim. He pressed his rifle into Gina twice and fired at point blank range...and at some point she held up her hand defensively; absolutely awful. DP.
@@eddiecortes6408 Alyssa, Martin, and Alex all had defensive wounds. Heartbreaking to think they knew what was coming and were trying to protect themselves. How could anyone oppose the death penalty for this monster after listening to the autopsies reports of these poor kids who didn't stand a chance?
I love this doctor!! He is very intelligent, answers questions very well, and is very professional. I feel absolutely awful for these families and my love and prayers are with them ❤
I couldn’t imagine sitting less then twenty feet from the person that executed your child, I wouldn’t be able to sit there and be quiet… these parents are completely broken inside. You can see it in their eyes when they’re looking around… this is heartbreaking. Something’s got to give guys, we can’t keep this up.
We already do. What happened was result of the killer being on SSRI’s and there is clear warnings in the insert of the drugs that state “ SSRI’s can cause suicidal or homicidal thoughts and actions” to bad he didn’t choose suicidal. The person killed those kids not the gun. He should never have been able to purchase one in the first place if the gun laws were followed.
Multiple failures allowed Cruz to purchase an AR-15 style rifle. Neighbors constantly called police on him. A family friend called the FBI tipline with specific concerns. Miami Field Office should’ve received & investigated. Armed School Resource Officer never went into the school. Broward County School BD, Sheriff’s Office & a Behavioral Clinic failed to report Cruz to the FBI. Cruz could’ve been locked up prior to 2/14/2018 and Parkland victims would be alive.
@K M It is almost as if his evil is so much more powerful because he’s able to doodle to hide but think of him as the most horrible creature not even worthy enough to be called an “animal” Step back and observe it’s the only way not to get drawn into his arena
Nah, look closely. He’s taking peeks at the monitor and his public defense team is gesturing for him to doodle instead of letting him revel in his twisted handiwork.
Someone should rip that pen from his hand and sit him right in front of those parents. He’s a monster. I wish they would strap him to a chair and let each parent take their swings at him until they felt content. Even if it killed him.
These families are exhausted. Look at the bags under their eyes. The grief of losing their child and sitting through this is more pain than I can imagine.
@@jponigurl My youngest of three turns 18 next week. When she graduated, one of the things I was thankful about was none of my kids dealt with a school shooting.
It's a little comforting to see this father with his arm around his wife. An incredibly high number of couples who suffer the loss of a child don't succeed at maintaining their marriages. I am glad they still lean on each other. 😔
This is true. After the death of our daughter, my husband and I just never made it back to each other. Divorce is such a heartbreaking but normal thing after going through that kind of grief.
@@jenna6421 Losing a child is the worst pain imaginable. You blame yourself, your spouse, doctors, etc. You blame anyone you can think of. No, it's not right but while processing the worse thing that you have ever been through in my case I wanted more than anything for a long time to be by myself. It's hard to explain and I'm sure I did a poor job at it but you just can't stand to be around anyone at all. Plus, no 2 ppl grieve the same so there's that too.
My brother is a Forensic Medical Examiner for 13 years. I have a tight bond with him and I can say that he changed just a year fr working in the morgues and hospitals. He rarely talks about the deaths his worked on due to confidentiality probably but when he does, he talks vaguely and seemed to not be bothered by the scene he was just at. However, during his first few months, he would come home mortified, spaced out, or I'd often see him drink water more often than when he's just at home, not working. All I'm saying is that Dr. Osbournes' demeanor is completely normal for me. Watching my brother over the years, I feel like he got used to sucking up whatever he's feeling, no matter how mortifying the scenes he's seen -- he got used to it that he now talks like it just doesn't bother him at all --- otherwise, he'd long quit his job.
As a Nurse (disabled now unfortunately) I can tell you that we “act” fine when we have to in a professional setting. However I can’t tell you the times we took each other into the break room and grieved for our patients and their families… then gathered our thoughts and went back to work to be the professionals we were trained to be. This Physician is in a professional setting. We don’t know how he grieved alone or with other colleagues over the murder of children and teachers. You would WANT him to be professional in court so there wouldn’t be a mistrial.
I can’t imagine the horror of listening to your child’s autopsy in court with the monster that murdered them right there. My heart breaks for Gina’s and all of the other victims parents. I would lose it and try my best to get my hands on him.
Imagine working hard all your life to raise your children and you plan every steps of the way to try to raise a good healthy child and then to be taken away just like that by another child bc he felt like it. I cannot imagine the pain those parents have to endure. It’s truly beyond words….
He's amazing. How he speaks for the victims & their families even through discomfort & the pain. His strength & knowledge is such a blessing. I bet he's thinking if these victims can't speak I'll speak for them. Bless all the parents with peace. They are so courageous. What a horrific thing to go through in their grief. Sending all their loved ones, love. xoxo
That is what an excellent forensic pathologist/examiner does, speaks for the victims who can no longer speak for themselves. Can't imagine how hard it was for the victims' parents to sit and listen to all of this. But I know they feel they had to be there for their children, the victims.
@@internetcensure5849 not even sure what you’re referring to? What does the possibility of someone in that profession’s curiosity and interest in the field have to do with anything ?
@@internetcensure5849 because you want to give people answers to the question why and how their loved one died. They don't only work on murder cases but also on sudden deaths when someone possibly didn't even know they were ill. It does help people a lot to know why.
I don’t know how these poor parents suffered through this man’s testimony. I feel bad for him for having to give this testimony. You can tell he’s uncomfortable doing so. Watching this makes me so angry. I would not be able to control myself with that monster killer sitting in front of me. Prayers for all the families affected by this.
PLEASE stop relying on "prayers". Prayers do less than nothing. They make those people offering them feel like they've acted meaning they do nothing more. A lot more needs to be done here.
He’s very good at what he does and is as tactful as humanly possible. His testimony is heartbreaking, yes, but necessary to get the correct verdict and have all the info of the reality of this horrific day. I do also think maybe the parents should have been strongly advised to not be there for them.
As long as we have a society that's sympathetic with the fate of a criminal, it's gonna get worse ! Nowadays the criminals get more protection than the victims.
I know how it feels to loose a child. 2011 I lost my 11 yr old son in a fire. I was devastated. I still cry. The parents of these angels need our prayers and love. Stay strong!! Never give up!! And when this animal gets the ultimate penalty, make sure you live long enough to be there to show him you enjoy his fear.
I can’t imagine being one of these parents. Knowing your child was scared out of their mind and tried to prevent being shot! Knowing the fear they were in in their last moments of life…..sickening. This just made me weep for these parents.
That is so horrible. I'm not even halfway through it and I'm already bawling. These poor people didn't deserve this, I hope they rest forever in peace. And I hope the murderer goes out a horrible horrible way to make up for the horrible actions that he did not only hurting so many victims but also their families. The coroner has my full respect. I could never be in a job where I could witness that and still be sane.
As a father of a 15yr old girl I could feel every emotion of the parents in that court room... I say leave him alone in a room with the parents & let justice be served!!! I wish these parents are able to find peace/closure someday & may all of their children's souls rest in paradise 🌅
Sadly they will never get peace, the best they can get is to understand why he did it but there is no logical reason and I doubt he will ever explain why he did it.
There is justice like that in other countries where they simply give the convicted over to the family and let them deal with him/her and I absolutely believe this should be allowed in the USA
This might not be appropriate but there’s a foreign movie called Lady Vengeance where she does have the parents of the victims alone with their children’s killer to do as they please with him. Crazy movie but the ending is moving.
The one father looks like he’s never smiled before ☹️ I hope in time, they will know it’s ok to smile and laugh, and feel happy again. Their kids wouldn’t have wanted them to suffer in anguish for all their remaining days.
Seeing Gina's father's face when then doctor read his daughter's age, weight and height broke my heart. She was a little girl snuffed off the earth for no reason. As a parent, I know I'd never recover.
The parents and family members of these victims have held strong. The amount of strength it would take to sit through this and listen to their children’s wounds is unimaginable. The grief and absolute anger that shows on their faces is horrific. God Bless these souls, and the children that were taken far far too soon.
True. It seems to me they don't like the cameras looking at them filming their pain! I would have to agree with them. It's not necessary to watch how the parents react. It's really disrespectful.
Imagine holding yourself together and professionally enough, to describe each childs wounds. In front of the parents. My mind is blown. I can't even imagine being strong headed enough to be in that line of work. Peace and Love.
As a parent, I would probably sit through this too because although sad and gruesome, it would be like the last time I'd hear anything about my child. The last person who has been with my child describing what he saw last.
I agree. I wouldn't want to be in ignorance of what happened to my child. I would want to know exactly what happened and why they died. Even if it is among the most painful moments of my life, part of having closure is the knowing. I think it's also part of the reason why people will go to great lengths to receive the bodies of their loved ones after a death, even if it's impractical and difficult.
as torturous as it would be to hear, it is the truth, and parents deserve to hear the truth of how their child died. i don’t have children, but to be honest, monsters like this murderer make me scared to ever have kids. i can’t trust sending my kid into an education system without fear of my child being potentially killed. if this happened to my child i would undoubtedly be a mess, probably too much of a mess to speak clearly. props to all of the parents for doing their best in a moment as tough as this.
I wanted to be a Medical Examiner growing up, but decided to go into Pharmacy instead. I made the right choice, there’s no way I could mentally withstand doing autopsies on anyone, especially children… my heart goes out deeply to this doctor and the victim’s families… 😞💔 Bless them all, please…
The look both fathers give at 20:36 to the coward …. My heart goes out to these families . Not sure I could be as strong as they are in the courtroom with this evil guy who took away their loved ones . Prayers
Covering your ears while the screams of the children you slaughtered play, scribbling in a notepad while their horrific autopsies are recounted. Just unfucking believable.
I applaud this man for his work. It’s not easy to do what he does, mentally and emotionally. Especially when it involves children. He was professional and thorough in his work
This is devastating not just for those poor children to die in such a horrific way, but for the parents as well. You know EVERY SINGLE DECENT parent would trade positions with their children in a heartbeat. It’s unthinkable to know you’ve gone your whole life, raised a beautiful child, and have that ripped away and then having to carry on the rest of your life having lost all your purpose.
As soon as I saw the group at 2:35, I just knew this would be as emotional as I thought it would be. Those people have been through so much agony and I can't imagine being in their place.
I can’t imagine the pain. These poor parents. As a father of a little girl I’m heartbroken and I’m always going to worry when she goes to school. This is got to stop. Prayers to the poor parents may there children Rest In Peace in paradise
Send her to a private school regardless of your religious beliefs. This will be the best thing you can do for her. My daughter hated I sent her to an all girls school she is now 21 thanking me for sacrificing so much she just got accepted to Harvard on a scholarship. I hope the best for you and your family
Even harder when you know guns are being brought to school by other students, from when I went and now my daughter who just got in kindergarten, one of my nephews friends, a freshman, is now on house arrest for confronting a senior for bullying 🤦🏾♂️ kids gotta realize this ain’t the answer
Why are the most precious and innocent people we have (young children), continuously the low hanging fruit for these psychopaths committing these massacres. Things need to change, immediately. I also have two children and it is horrifying to think this can happen to children or anyone for that matter.
@TrashOnly Parkland is just west of Boca Raton. It’s a beautiful and wealthy area. If it can happen there it can happen anywhere, including any private school. All schools need better security.
The doctor thought 100x times before choosing a word about wounds to not hurt families. He was so professional yet I felt how the first father catched every word like "chest, heart". I am rooting for those people.
He should be forced to have to look up and see and also hear everything that is being said or recording of that day. He should have to look at every face he destroyed and murdered that day.
Defendants are told to draw, write, etc during a trial of any kind. Go look at any trial and see what the defendant is doing. It's not just Nikolas Cruz. And it's not a coloring book 🙄 defendants are kept occupied during a trial to deter them from looking at the jury or victims, or doing anything really that could affect their case. It's not like he asked for his crayola crayons and his sippy cup.
This man giving testimony and explanation of all of these wounds had such a hard job. He did it professionally and I believe with as much respect to the families as possible. Of course, the parents in the room had the hardest job of them all. I hope they find some measure of peace in whatever sentence is handed down here. My heart goes out to them.
Dr. Marlon Osbourne Pathologist did an excellent job explaining the wounds that caused the deaths of these unfortunate young people. He does this for a living and has many years of experience in this field. It is certainly very brutal for the parents of the deceased people to hear, but they do not have to remain there, they can step out, if it is too much. It is necessary to understand, precisely how each person died, so that if there will be no doubt as to why the Death Penalty has been imposed, if it has been imposed. After listening to this gruesome testimony, there will be no doubt that the Death Penalty does fit this heinous crime committed by Nikolas Cruz.
Many people surprisingly don't understand the reason you mentioned as well as the countless other reasons a thorough and detailed analysis of each victims wound/s is absolutely essential as hard and unbearable as they are to listen to. What strength it must take as a parent or loved ones and friends to the victims to hear such details all over again. Re-victimization for hopefully the last or close to the last time for the family and friends to the beautiful, young souls lost 💔💕
So, so very sorry to these families. The fact that none of them tried to kill this guy in court is truly astonishing. I am so very proud of these mother, fathers, brothers, sisters and friends of all the victims. So very proud of their resilience and strength. God bless them all. So sorry again
Full time single dad here who has a 15 year old. I gave up my business to save my son already! Went from Rich to poor because money means nothing compared to your children, I only say this because there are so many loser dads out there who won't even see their kids much less destroy your lifes work to save their kid from a bad situation! So I am just going to say this! If it was my son I would of put that kids brains on the floor and then mine. But it wouldn't have been fast. I would of got control of him and put him in front of me and have my back to the wall where it is impossible for anyone to do anything other than run or watch. I would then turn to all the other parents and say "This is how justice in a situation like ours should be carried out. Today, I am the judge, the jury and the executioner! You having to deal with this for even another day ends here. I am sorry to those who loved me but my life has already been taken and I must go be with my baby boy because he needed me in this life, and he needs me in the next. BOOM BOOM BOTH ON THE FLOOR, AND NO CHANCE OF THEM TAKING ME IN! Ladies and gentleman of the jury, we thank you for your service but this court is adjourned.
Respect to all of these brave parents, standing up for their lost ones in the court against unimaginable pain they must be going through. Pure respect to each and every one of them. And somehow when I look at their faces, I see good, civil people who did everything for their kids, and still doing so...Wishing patience and strength to all.
25:00-26:00 he didn't just shoot far away like you think. He stuck his weapon right to that 14 yr old girls skin. He was up close. How horrible. We need to know how evil this is.
Not that it makes it better but i thought he just stuck his ugly head into each classroom and just shot randomly. the fact that he was that close, looked them in the eye, TOUCHED them with his gun… gut wrenching. how could someone do thar
he not only shot them, for some of them he came back and shot them two or three more times after they were already mortally wounded or dead, she may have been one of them
For Chris Hixon and Joaquin Oliver, he shot them several times and then came back to finish the job several minutes later, in between terrorizing hallway kids or the classrooms.
I am a Doctor, and I can tell he did an excellent, professional and necessary description , but at the same time I am thinking about how painful was for parents to be there and hear that in details. My profound respect for all of them. 🙏
Oh man. Gina's parents rocked me. I am so sorry to all those who lost their babies to this senseless violence. And to all the other parents who have gone, are going and will go through this. I cant even imagine their pain❤
The doctor did a great job explaining. Imagine having a room full of grieving parents and you have to explain how their children tragically lost their lives and whether they suffered or not. Him pausing and at times stuttering shows he was having some difficulty getting through explaining what these children went through.
It looks like he's had to describe the deaths of 2500 people in his career so he's an expert. This has to be easier than explaining to each of them personally. What a sad and difficult job he has.
Gina Montalto's parents broke my heart. No parent should go thru this. I'm shedding tears for all these families who lost their babies, there are no words.
As someone who’s lost a child myself, seeing the grief on these parents’ faces causes so much empathy in me for them, it hurts my head and makes me sob. I feel so much for them; it brings all the memory of the pain of grief back to me. Their children SHOULD still be alive! They should NOT be dead! It’s so unfair. I’m so sorry they are going through this.
No kidding, the thought of the sick twisted progressives allowing mentally unstable psychopaths to roam free to attack innocent kids is enough to make anyones blood boil.
I wish the cameras wouldn’t focus so long on the parents. They’re doing this for their reactions. It kind of disgusts me to be honest. They’re going through this unimaginable torment yet the news is determined to constantly film their grief. Shame on them!
This ME has my respect and I appreciate all persons in the medical field that can keep themselves composed and professional. Also, the ones who say he’s cold, he’s testifying 4 YEARS AFTER this tragedy happened! That’s 4 years to compose himself. I’m sure the days and nights after doing all those autopsies for those innocent souls were some of the worst he’s had to go through. Plus after doing over 2500 autopsies, I’m pretty sure he has a way to deal/heal with what he sees. God bless him and all medical professionals that have to see, find out a diagnosis, and give the news to the families of loved ones that they have treated. 🙏💕
23:43 You can tell Gia’s dad was relieved and took comfort knowing her death was instant in that moment with minimal pain. My thoughts and condolences to all the families and fellow humans this gruesome act impacted.
But she did get shot once in the hand that she put up as a defensive wound before the shots that went to her heart. This is horrendous. My heart is so heavy for all of the people in this room except the perpetrator.
@@Teresa-Anne Even if he knew, you could see the relief in his posture and facial expression for a second. You can know something but still find comfort in it years from when you learned it. Basic human emotions and how neurons and memories work in tandem.
What good is that going to do? House and feed him for the next 50 years and he’ll end up dying behind bars like Charles Manson. There is no death penalty at that point.
He very likely will get the death penalty. Florida does have that as a punishment in their state laws. The death penalty is reserved for those who commit particularly heinous crimes, like serial killers, torturing and killing children/adults--as they should. People like this school shooter should not be allowed to continue living.
22:57 (testimony talks about a child being shot in the chest at point blank range, if not, touching the chest) both men in the frame, shake their head in disbelief because it’s hard to believe someone can be so callous; especially to a child💔 my heart goes out to all of the families
That was Gina Montalto’s wounds. The larger gentleman is her father, wife Gina’s mother to his right. And the other gettleman conforting him was Max Schacter, Alex’s. Max is so compassionate that he if often seen comforting other parents.
@@orquideafernandez3977 Gina and Alex were also in the Band and Color guard together, and as someone who was in band myself, all the parents of members tend to be very close as they often chaperone or volunteer together. I'm sure this hit them doubly hard. My dad was a Band Dad and saw all the band/guard kids as his adopted kids.
Doctors blanket prescribing anti-depressants after they got caught getting half the country hooked on opiates? Oh, you mean guns, those things that've been all over this country since the beginning but are only now a problem once some politicians see a way to exploit another tragedy...
I can't imagine this as a parent myself. I don't think I would possess half the amount of self control, that these fathers are showing us. My heart breaks for these parents and their families.
I have a 6 month old son. My first child. I love him to pieces and he completely changed my look on life, such a humbling experience. I can’t imagine losing him. I hope I die before he does. Hope these parents find closure.
As a parent, sitting 15’ away from this animal while hearing what he did to your son or daughter would be absolutely gut wrenching. I genuinely don’t understand how they kept it together. The restraint the families showed during this trial is one of the most incredible things I’ve ever seen.
Words matter, Cruz is a vile evil human not an animal. Animals don't kill to be famous, or because someone called them a name, if Cruz were an animal no one would have died that day, words matter!
@@patbrown2699 I think you’re looking at that term too literally. In a figurative manner, “animal” is used to demean someone’s character and paint them as inhumane. I don’t think very many people would read into the term “animal” in this context in a literal sense. Clearly, most people don’t have an innate disdain for actual animals.
They were trying their best to not have any mistakes for the chance of a mistrial it’s hard but they have to in order to get justice
they have to, if they act out the defense would call for a mistrial.
@venus season dreams what is real to you? is there any school shooting or assassination that was real? or is everything fake? have you thought about if you are fake? maybe you arent real, just a brainless psyop yourself.
The doctor is not cold. He is a human being and obviously feels for the parents of the victims but it would be extremely unprofessional to go up there and start showing his emotions.
You can tell by the doctors demeanor he's trying very hard to compose himself. You can tell this is very hard on him.
Considering that it could EASILY cause a mistrial, then his BEST EFFORT to control his emotions is the most respectful thing that he could possibly do for the victims AND their families. People can be so dense sometimes.
You can see the compassion in his eyes when he looks at the pictures, but the only way he can help is to do his job and remain as detached as possible. He wouldn't last long in his job and therefore wouldn't be able to help people if he didn't.
Sometimes, certain empathetic emotions cannot be stopped. It's what makes us humans. You cannot always push your humanity aside.
Yes agreed. As a Medic. We are trained to subside emotions in order to complete our jobs even under intense situations of a patient. But this is why a lot of us undergo heavily untreated stress when we are off our job. It’s not easy to mentally blunt such things
I’ve read a few comments about Dr. Osbournes’ demeanor, and feeling that he seems a little “cold” when describing the injuries. Medical providers, whose job it is to deal with trauma/death day-in and day-out, definitely develop the ability to disassociate from their emotions. They couldn’t do their jobs if they didn’t. People having anxiety, shock, and stress reactions have difficulty thinking clearly. In these particular professions, we desperately need those among us who can put these emotions aside temporarily to do these very necessary jobs. These people, like anyone else exposed to violence in a society, do take all of this with them however. All of the witnessed trauma and violence to human beings, big and small, creates a type of PTSD that each deals with in their own way. The brutality of our world is an astonishing thing, and these dedicated professionals act as it’s witness.
How can one choose to be a forensic pathologist, unless having a mobid mentality?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"definitely develop the ability to disassociate from their emotions." and loose emotivity altogether. A morbid job.
@@internetcensure5849 having a morbid curiosity doesn't make you a bad person with no emotions. You're just making assumptions about people.
@@internetcensure5849 As someone who works with doctors, this man speaks exactly as any doctor who works with living people. You seem to forget that this man is working. He's on the job. He speaks like you would expect any professional would in the course of their duties. What emotions do you expect this man to show while doing his job?
@@internetcensure5849 People are not their jobs. Mentally healthy individuals are able to distance themselves emotionally from the challenging aspects of their jobs and carry out the job that they're tasked with doing. Just because they are able to do that, and you are not, doesn't mean something is wrong with them. Also, just because YOU think something is morbid doesn't mean it actually is. Having a professional interest in this area of science and medicine is not morbid. People die - it's a reality human existence, so it follows that there are also people would be interested in studying it working professionally in the field. Someone has to do the job; the need exists.
The doctor is awesome. He’s provided great detail and explanations of how things are caused and why . You can see it’s difficult for him to speak about these children who died . He too goes home with these images and details in his memory . It’s hard to tell families how their loved ones died .
I appreciate the professionalism of the doctor. I can see he was masterfully covering them, but the emotions are there. That is clearly a man who cares very much about his job, and is ensuring that his testimony is as thorough and respectful as possible to get justice for these victims. Checking on his notes for accuracy is already important, but the fact that he ensured it was acceptable to refer to them each time - he wanted to be sure nobody had room to say anything about it later. He is a man covering his bases and taking his job so seriously. He has my respect.
Yes, I don't understand why people are acting like he was cold. You can clearly see his emotions while maintaining professional integrity
@@laurieb3703 Sad to say some people have to find something wrong or pick apart things with everything unfortunately. It would have been unprofessional for him to weep, cry, or be emotional during his testimony of evidence anyway. He would have been deemed unstable therefore not a credible source.
@@live4him606 exactly
Exactly!
Total pro. Highest respect and regards.
My deepest respect to him. His testimony is crucial. I'm sure that as much as he tries to control his emotions, he carries that horror with him. I think he reminds himself of the importance of his testimony to at least bring some justice to the victims.
Very well said
Agreed! Btw, given that some of these wounds were contact wounds, he didn't just shoot into classrooms? Were these kids in the hallway going to or from the bathroom? I'm curious as to the step by step analysis, and how he was able to get in and out so easily and blend in, also where did he stash the gun? This could've been prevented with armed guards at locked entrances, bulletproof windows.
@@bryant475 he waltzed in with his gun, rang the fire alarm, then dropped it and walked right out when he was finished. :/ absolutely could have been prevented.
He is used to it he isn't sad at all bro calm down
@@masxn_t2276 I thought the smoke from his gun is what set off the fire alarm. Idk I watched couple different school shooting vids so could be getting them mixed up
The doctor is amazing. I can see in his eyes he bears emotions and empathy for the parents, but you can't hear it and you can't see it from his body language.
He is very professional and that's what I imagine the parents wants. They are going through enough pain as it is, imagine watching a professional break down that has dealt with death so many times.
That would crush them completely.
Great coroner right? Sometimes people have been left 4 dead and the coroner revives them.
The doctor is amazing but if it was me I would have lost it by this time
I would have too and yell at Nikolas
It wouldn't crush them, they are already crushed. What it would do is validate that their loss, their pain is felt by a complete stranger who is one of millions in the public format that collectively empathize and innately know the pain these parents are experiencing
Court is about realism not emotion, sometimes if a judge shows emotion they can lose there jobs , you have to remain bias even though your not
The look on the faces of the parents absolutely breaks my heart. I could never be so strong as them.
Yea im sure they were told they couldnt cry either!! No way i could be in that room hearing that and watching that murderer sit there and drawing pictures!!
I pray for these families, they have suffered unspeakable sadness, unspeakable pain! And, still endurred a horror that only evil can bring!
I know. They all have permanent scowls. It is very tragic and I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child this way. It's sickening to think about.
I could. No question about it.
@@michaelgriffith4110 what i'm sure they were told was that they couldn' disrupt the proceedings. meaning you can cry, just not the loud wailing and loud sobbing.
As a medical professional we are trained to separate our emotions to our visitors/patients. There’s a certain extent that we have to protect our own emotions as well. If you allow yourself to feel everything we wouldn’t be able to work in the field we are in
That makes sense. No One should criticise this Dr.
Absolutely must separate your emotions! I would never let a crying, distraught, medical pofessional treat me!
Do you have any “quiet rooms?” I have a relative who was previously a police dispatcher, and they had a room designated to go and take some time to themselves after calls.
Medical professional 🤣 no one trained you to separate anything lol.
Facts
I can tell you as someone who has worked in an ICU for 40 years, there ARE TIMES that our emotions for not only the patient, but FOR THE FAMILY , does get to us, and we do take it home, and its difficult to get it out of our minds. Many is the time I've got off shift, got in my car, and just sat there and broke down. Many times I've embraced total strangers and shared tears with them. My heart goes out to these family's whose lives are changed forever. Losing a loved one is always devastating, but to lose your child in this manner.....I cant even imagine it.
Absolutely! As a former ICU nurse, I can confirm. 😔
Neither can I my heart goes out to these families when are these shootings going to stop
So much respect to anyone in this field. Having to endure what you have to endure on a regular basis as a JOB!!
Do you have any idea how much it means to us for you to cry with us? Please be human. I'll never forget the ER doc and ER nurse who came to visit me in the ICU after bleeding out my entire blood volume with my 2 week old daughter in the waiting room. Knowing my life mattered to a complete stranger meant everything.
@@sara-mc3rk God bless you and your new little girl. Stay well and wishing you and your family a happy new year! Thx for your heart felt comment. Much appreciated.
That poor man was suffering while having to explain the wounds in front of those poor poor parents...this is sickening and heartbreaking
If you look closely even the killers public defender's show body language of disgust for their client...but this is America and everybody gets council whether innocent or in this case already proven guilty ..frankly if I were him I'd beg for the death penalty ..I couldn't live with myself knowing I did that much evil
@@richardlawson6787 not everyone gets a fair trial. Only democrats.
@@robbypro3370 yuk yuk...preach on
Yeah, he’s definitely having a hard time. It’s such a cruel situation for everyone, except of course the creature who did this. This trial is him victimizing these parents all over again and forcing this Dr to inflict more pain on them when I imagine his instinct is to protect them from details that they shouldn’t have to hear. Agreed, sickening and heartbreaking 💔
@@robbypro3370 LMFAO! Democrats and Republicans are the same scum of the earth, dude. They just pretend to be different.
The constant frowns on their faces just breaks my heart. The pain they must be feeling is unimaginable. I just pray that in time they find peace
My mother's friend lost her son due to an argument he had with someone on a basketball court. He was stabbed 7 times by a guy who was residing illegally in the country. She never really recovered from his death and became a heavy alcoholic because of it. When people experience deep pain they never come back from it.
Me too. No one should have to suffer the loss of a child.
Why wouldn’t they have constant frowns? You want them to smile happily?
@@A1Kira you need to learn how to read
@@A1Kira stop twisting words.
Kudos to the professional doctor. Must’ve been very difficult to autopsy all those children.
Je suis d'accord avec vous!
Probably not, you have to be numb to all this and being that he’s done thousands of criminal cases …he’s definitely not prob affected like the rest of us. Otherwise he wouldn’t oh chose this line of work I assume 🤷🏼♀️
Honestly, he shows no emotion like a robot. Special person to do that job. You couldn't pay me enough to do that. Horrible.
The medical examiner's staff is probably experiencing awful nightmares from seeing children in that condition.. my experience working with the coroner during my time at university was hard work mentally, physically and psychologically. I wish the parents & the staff well
@@Hippie_chic_at_heart I wouldn't make that assumption. Just because you occupy a certain role does not mean you are unaffected by the natural human emotions that come with it.
For certain people/in certain fields detachment might make things easier, but for others, caring and being passionate about what you do is what keeps you going. Detachment may not even be possible.
First responders, coroners, medical care providers, this judge and people involved in the trial will all experience trauma at work and don't choose these careers because they're somehow above it.
For example, my sister is a nurse and is affected by what she sees every day. She just makes a very intentional effort to seek supports for herself to deal with it and continue. She became a nurse because she cares and is passionate about providing care, not because being surrounded by people dying and in pain every day doesn't bother her.
The people who occupy these roles can be professional and committed without being "fine" with everything. Everyone needs compassion and support, even (and especially!)if they've chosen to do what they know is going to be difficult, traumatic work.
Enormous respect to the doctor who kept it very professional and thanks to people like him in his profession, we can solve crimes and know what happened to our loved ones.
I agree!
Yes I agree he inspired me really. His professionalism was amazing.
They should all the shooting on tv for public to see and determine
The slave marketed as the doctor? Doctors are fictional.
Hearing the autopsy findings, it’s like being able to see/ understand how it all played out and the fact that he literally doubled back to kill people he had already maimed and shoot them at point blank range shows that he knew exactly what he was doing. He wasn’t insane or having a mental break, he was just angry and full of hate and wanted to do as much PERMANENT damage as possible. I feel really bad for the families. They didn’t deserve any of this and neither did the kids who died / were injured and the teachers.
This is exactly what I thought. It’s like I could hear the gun shots.
@ bratzatak - Really? You know this from your vast education in the mental health field, doctor? First, not all mental illness is the same. Lots of mentally ill people are quite capable of knowing what they are doing and processing their thoughts. It doesn't mean they are not mentally ill. Psychopaths can make elaborate plans and execute them to perfection, but what they lack is empathy.
"Parkland: Inside building 12"
@@ronnie_5150 You know this from your vast education in forensic psychology? One does not have to meet the criteria for a mental illness to be a domestica abuser. Mass shooters tend to have a history of domestic violence, especially toward female family, friends, and/or partners. The data about the mentally ill demonstrates that they are actually less likely to be violent than the general population. I know this because I got my first degree in Public Health. The debate on mass shootings gets twisted around mental illness to stop any legislation that would limit profitable sales of high-powered weapons favored by abusers/mass shooters. I'd say that makes the U.S. legislature mentally ill.
This boy is not right in the head, it is obvious that he’s deranged
All I can think about is how that father began to cry when they read his child’s height and weight….I’m sure all he could think about was the day they were born and how much they weighed then😢 so sad I would never want to experience anything remotely this painful
I can’t stop crying, I can’t imagine how it is for them.. 💔
i haven't even thought about it that way. how tragic, my heart breaks for these families.
I'm actually crying looking at the dad's reaction. How could anyone do this to another human being let alone a child
One word: evil.
An evil narcissistic person...who has zero care or regard for human life, except for his own...that's why he didn't ki!l himself...the only person he gives any care for...Is himself
how do you cry
@@FreedomForMaryland You're naive
@@zavil6219 give me 5 minutes with Cruz and I'll prove how naive I am.
This makes me so angry. I cant imagine sitting in the court room with a complete stranger who essentially took away the person you gave life to. Watched their first steps, their first smile and laugh, their first birthday, family dinners, movie nights, sports games, falling asleep in your bed because there scared at night, so many memories just for them to be taken away by one selfish person who you didn't even know existed. for no reason what so ever. it's not fair and I feel so awful for the parents
Each parent should get 5 minutes in a cell with that sorry sack of useless.
it seems pointless too. Why go through all this detail and horrow when he's guilty.
@@kp8890 he’s guilty no doubt, that’s not what they are debating though. They are debating whether or not he should be put to death or just in prison the rest of his life. The jurors need to hear how gruesome the details are of each and every victim, they need to see these parents faces and the footage/pictures of the crime scene, they need to hear how the survivors of this tragedy have to live with this trauma for the rest of their life in order to make that life or death decision. It may seem pointless but it’s not.
think of how angry God gets each time a child is ripped from the womb
it’s unimaginable. So. So sad.
I’m glad though that the perp has to listen to the details of what he caused.
Im not sure id have to strength to go on if i was in those parents places. Breaks my heart and May they find some moment of peace in the future.
I'm a medical professional and we are definitely trained to separate our emotions from our profession. Early in my career I learned this the hard way after having preemie drug babies die on me. Emotions create burn out. Burnout creates negligence. This is why we're trained the way we are. 16 years later I can assist in any death or postmortem care and not react.
Thank you for your work!
Over my years as a nurse I can agree with your explanation, unfortunately my experiences over the years eventually caused a burnout and I left nursing. I think there comes a point in time when it’s no longer possible to separate the emotions. That’s the time to walk away and take some time for self care. I had to leave the career I loved for my own health and the health and safety of the patients I cared for.
I admire and respect the health care professionals who care for patients in traumatic circumstances every day and a deeper respect for those who have to recall those traumas accurately in testimony. It’s got to be the most difficult thing to recall especially with family and friends listening to that testimony.
The last thing a medical professional wants to do is disclose traumatic information that will cause distress to family.
The M.E has a difficult task to disclose important information tactfully, yet truthfully and completely. I imagine it’s somewhat traumatic for them also.
This M.E is a consummate professional. Not cold and detached, just a dignified professional doing credit to his job and no doubt dreading sharing the details in court.
This trial is heartbreaking for me I cannot comprehend what the families are going through.
@@ange1mom438 I can agree with this actually. I spent almost 17 years in the field. I also developed burnout. I've worked everything from ICU to urgent care to family med...once the burnout began for me I too hung up my stethoscope. I now bake but I do miss the field. I help people everywhere I go. It's still in me.
@@ange1mom438 I had to leave the profession also 😢
@@marliecrim4060 why?
imagine having to hear such specific detail of the wounds that caused an immense amount pain for your child and ultimately killed them, in the same room as the person that inflicted the wounds. these parents are strong for baring this. i am usually good at maintaining composure, but if i were one of those parents, i know i would break down. i would have to try so insanely hard to not physically lash out at the killer when he’s in the same room.
The doctor btw did an amazing job testifying. I can't imagine how hard it must be to testify in front of families about the cause of death of their loved ones.
I was thinking that as well I think the reason why he stuttered a little is that he was thinking what's the best way to phrase this whilst being detailed but less distressing to the family.
He’s done this over 200 times according to what he said. Half his job is testifying in court
I agree, I’m so impressed with the dr. Yes I can see the emotions cross his face when he looks out to the crowd but he stays on his notes.
He has to click on and off between reported facts for the case and emotional impact of the lives he’s helping tell their last story for.
One of the weird parts for me was when the prosecutor asked the medical examiner why the exit wound was larger than the entrance wound. That's pretty much a physics question, which this guy clearly does not know. He could have kept it simple, and said something like the energy disperses into the tissue or something, but went on this fumbly attempt at incorrect specifics, and decided to just stop saying random science/math/ballistics terms, and sighed, dropped his hands, and looked down, closing his eyes, just totally giving up on the explanation. He then sucked in his lips and squinted, like he just dropped a plate and is waiting for the crash.
@@OutyMan He explained it perfectly, and simply. As a very experienced MD in his field, I’m sure he knows the physics behind these wounds better than any physicists.
This man is extremely smart you can just tell in how he talks, and how much school did this man do and 2500 autopsies is crazy to think about, and 120+ forensics cases is even crazier and I can’t imagine how he felt working in these poor young lost souls
Gotta go in and treat them like objects other wise you’ll drown yourself in depression
@@imissme8313 sad truth right there... I don't think I could it.
Its like working with objects. When u work there u don’t really think of death people. You just go there smiling and ready to solve problems. Somebody has to do it. Its a beautiful job! I love it
@@mathewbeats2658 A beautiful job? You psycho!
@@mathewbeats2658 Facts
This Dr not only is professional he is COMPASSIONATE. He cares
People don't realize the weight of what they see day in and day out comes home with them it's tough
You can see it with the movement of his eyebrows and heavy sighs whenever there is a long pause. When he talks about his work he is so professional, but when there is a break in testimony his subtle tells are heartbreaking.
I'm glad the parents wanted to have this televised. Let the world know that these kids from every shooting aren't just some number on an ever increasing list.
I also get satisfaction seeing that little demon squirm like a coward, not being able to face the horror he committed. Let it be known to other potential shooters that you could make it to a televised trial watched from millions of screens of people enjoying your discomfort. Instead of some mythical boogeyman only talked about on the News that people like this want to aspire to.
These poor parents. Can’t even imagine their pain. I’m so sorry for the loss of your babies ♥️
Adopción no
Es la cura de todo. Este niño quieroa de ir al
Mundo que sentía dolor de no tener su madre biológica y haber nacido en esta situación de ser un hijo que su madre no quería. El tiene un dolor enorme que nada más grita al mundo. Y por eso mato a tantos otros que no tenían nada ver con su dolor. La sociedad está mal. Babies are not blank slates!
🙏💞🙏
I literally don’t know that I could go on….. I have respect and love for all of them and hope they find peace and strength in their kiddos memories. So sad and senseless. Your sweet angels will never be forgotten 😢
They were not babies.
@@markpalavosvrahotes5575 I’m guessing you’re not a parent. Your kids are always your “babies”.
This is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever seen. I don't understand how the parents are even functioning during this.
I'm not defending the media showing them, but I do think the Jury needs to see the effects on the families for the Murder and Chaos he caused.
@@Nataku007 I'm not saying the jury shouldn't see them. I'm just heartbroken that this even happened. I'm just so sorry for the parents and the kids who have to relive all of this.
@@kitkat7871 I don't think I could survive it. These parents are superhuman.
I'd either be in shambles on the floor or being escorted out for trying to get my hands on the shooter.
Probably through faith and therapy
Those poor parents look so sad, lost, confused and angry.. you can just tell their lives hasn't been the same since that day.. you can tell they've cried everyday since, like it happened yesterday.. that pain will never go away for them. God bless them all.
I felt for them so much. They look so lost and sad. I see it in there eyes. It’s one thing losing a child but when it happens the way that it did it really traumatizing. I’m not religious but I hope there’s an afterlife where they can see their beautiful children again.
Break's my 💔 the look of horror disbelief! Pain grief Sorrow anguish anxiety hopelessness Rage! endless night's of no sleep around those dark circles that reflect in their eyes how much they have Suffered & Continue Suffering! Imagine Sitting there listening too how your child was brutally murdered by being gunned down by a Pathetic Psychopath & thinking of those last moments of fear Your Child had too live & that You weren't there too try too Protect them! but the Worse part of everything is knowing the Cause of everything horrible Your living is sitting right there at full sight of you? I Praise them! for being able too Control & hold back every emotion that they feel Cause I don't think I could do it 💔 Just watching these videos & listening too all the Statements from the families & especially the Mother's? Oh Lord that hurt's my heart 💔 My the Lord Continue giving them the strength they need too See this trail come too an end and even though it won't bring their Children back I hope they can feel Some kind of Peace & Justice!
Honestly, they bring to mind concentration camp survivors. The haunted, sad and yet blank faces. They have cried so much there are few tears left. And the dad on the right, in front of the other parents,, every so often he gets an angry look in his eye that is almost scary. But still haunted & blank.
Prayers for all the families . How does someone forgive such an act, well if God can forgive we also have to learn to forgive. May they REST IN PEACE. BLESS ALL THE VICTIMS. 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 HEARTBROKEN😥
To carry a child in your womb only to one day be taken by an evil soul- heartbreaking. My heart goes out to the Mum and of course the father. God bless them.
AMEN
They raised him.
That’s just one of the risks you take by doing the dirty without no protection. Scary stuff
Same, my heart go out to her mom and dad.
@@I-dont-reply …
How horrible for the parents to see the pictures of their children in a table after an autopsy! That’s the worst nightmare that a human being can live through! I can’t even imagine…
They can't see the photos, only hear the description
good thing you don’t gotta imagine cause that’s not what happened
@@natebarry5553 I'm sure some seen photos to identify them
@@davidgilbert2998 True but fortunately not during the trial
@@natebarry5553 actually, a lot of times they have the photos displayed on the tv’s in the courtroom so both the prosecution and the defense can see what the expert is describing. That would mean the photos are also visible to the parents. They’re just not allowed to film those tvs and photos.
I don’t think the Doctor is being cold at all. I actually think he’s trying to be professional whilst recounting all of his horrific content and doing his best not to show too many emotions in a room full of the victim’s partners. Hats off to him for doing his job in such a professional and composed way.
Also, he didn’t know these children. He said he’s done 2500 autopsies. At some point, a body is a body. He has no information about their interests, activities, what they loved…none. It’s his career.
His eyes are sad and heavy.
I'm more bothered about the upbeat way in which the judge ended the session. Her tone was far too chirpy, considering the images that had just been shown.
I see someone being very professional with a lot of emotion still visible... talking about a bunch of kids killed isn’t easy
I think he actually is holding in a lot of sadness. A body isn’t just a body/ it’s the age and in the manner in which these children were killed, which to me seems like he would definitely be sincerely affected by that. But then I am sure when it’s time to do his work, he is professional and goes about it in a respectful and dignified way.
Not a single parent in that court room, didn’t have bags under their eyes, from all the tears & sleepless nights, since the day their child was taken from them. You can feel their despair, anger, sadness, & inconsolable pain & loss. No parent should ever have to bury their child. They are unbelievably strong for remaining in that room, where the murderer of their child, while they hear, how their child suffered & died. I know that not a single person that watched those poor parents cry, didn’t shed tears along with them, felt their pain, or sympathized with them. I’m a single mother of 3, one is no longer with me, in person. But he is always with me I’m spirit. I can sympathize with these parents, & know the never ending pain.
⚠️Edit: some people commented that these grieving parents have bags under their eyes, because they are old. Obviously those who commented this, are young, or fortunate enough to not have felt the horrible pain of loosing someone. Another said, they feel no empathy for someone “they don’t know, or knew existed”, & basically called me exhaustingly, & needlessly “emotional”. If feeling sympathy for a fellow human being that is in pain. Specially over the loss of their murdered child, while they hear how their bodies were damaged, & how they died. Make me a needlessly emotional person, then I guess I’m needlessly emotional🤷🏻♀️.
Ya think?
? Not everyone is emotional…
p to do pretty mr eeylwkq l v
You guys riot from coast to coast when a scumbag like George Floyd dies and do not do anything when KIDS are being brutally murdered…
Oh yeah, I forgot,you send thoughts and prayers.
First thing I noticed
This comment isn’t meant to suggest the women in the courtroom aren’t feeling exactly the same but I’m beginning to see as much anger in the faces of a couple of these fathers as I see grief. The self control it must take to keep yourself from getting booted out of the courtroom in this situation is immeasurable.
Personally, I feel it’s important their faces of suffering are being shown! These are grieving parents!
Definitely understandable.
In some countries the perpetrator is turned over to the victims families for punishment as they see fit ..we need a similar system...
@@richardlawson6787 Yess! We need it! This will probably help heal some people
Yeah cos it's not true that women are more emotional or feel as open with their emotions. These fathers are struggling for their kids xx at times I'm glad I dont have kids or live in a country where mentally unwell pple have access to assualt weapons or any kind of gun.
The way all the families look out for each other is remarkable. I'm so sorry for all the loss you've had to suffer. No parent should have to bury their child, but this is a rotten world we live in. I pray for everyone involved. I hope you find peace and healing.
@@bunk95You’re a horribly disgusting person!
@@bunk95You’re a horribly disgusting person!
The Doctor sounds like such a sweetheart. You can tell he was getting choked up but kept it professional. I’m glad he couldn’t tell in what order a person was 🔫 no one needs to hear how a person suffered before they passed. 🙏🏽
You can clearly see him trying to hold it in while looking at the screen when Helena Ramsay comes across.
No, I didn't see that. This man is a professional. He is surrounded by death everyday.
Everyone and everything about this case seems very strange
N. C. was most likely trained, groomed, mind control to do what he is put to say he did for an agenda
@@amiLore
I saw it. He definitely started choking up a little but pushed through it since it’s his job.
He explained it as professionally and clinical as possible. My heart goes out to the victims and their families.
The look of complete rage and utter heartbreak of her father is super telling. It's taking every ounce of strength he has to contain his composure and not strangle the piece of garbage who killed his daughter.
Did ubsee where he mouthed "that fu**er" to himself , very clearly
How difficult for all families
I would have made that kid sit up straight and look directly at the families that he hurt
What time is that ?
@@noelaniherner389 absolutely 💯
I’m not a parent but I feel for these parents so much. I’m so sorry for your loss.
I'm not a parent either, sitting here crying my eyes out watching this. Can't imagine what they're feeling. So sad
youre not a parent? lets change that my nubian Queen x)
@@Dan-sw8tg 😐
@@Dan-sw8tg bruh..
These parents are here for their children. Bless their souls.
I get this Doctor. I respect him. He's professional. I've worked in a funeral home, housekeeper at a hospital and now as a caregiver for the elderly. We care, we show our emotions at the proper time. We Must stay professional on the job. Or we end up neglecting our clients, patients and/or the families. And we are there to help them.
Thank you for your work. We appreciate you so much.
Rarely comment, but your work is appreciated.
Absolutely. His ability to speak of these atrocities help tell the stories of the children who aren’t here to tell them themselves. He speaks for the dead and sitting up there today, helped shine light on what a monster the shooter is.
Seeing these parents with a constant frown and deeply saddened just hurts man. Just hurts. I couldn’t believe having to be there for your dead child whose killer is sitting across the room.
The only reason I could even fathom being in that room with the killer of my child is to wait for the moment when justice is served... I hope it is served well for these families and that the outcome is what they hoped for.
@@hailst5744
@@hailst5744 IMO they should get to beat him with tire irons until he's done. Its only fair
Who's the killer sitting across the room Alex Jones didn't kill those kids are you out of your mind
@@hailst5744 brother don’t stress. God has moral perfection and every little transgression agaisnt him will be punished even things as small as lying and looking with lust
Those burns on the second victims wounds and that fact that the entrance wounds were on the anterior aspect of the body means that poor girl was looking at this animal in face as it was killing her. I cannot express how much hate I have for him. I cannot imagine what the parents are going through. The doctor did an amazing job. My prayers lay with all the families which have to suffer because of this animals actions
Hearing this as a viewer was already difficult. I can’t imagine how the parents must’ve felt sitting there and hearing these findings on their own kids
This is seriously such a terrible way to die. I can’t even begin to imagine this. I hope that animal gets what’s coming to it in prison hopefully by another inmate. A slow excruciating painful death would be mercy for this waste of breath
Anterior?
Animals are in general kind, loving, innocent souls. Comparing this monster to them, is an absolute insult to animals.
@@Chuked meaning “front”
It takes extreme courage to sit there and hear someone describing the violence that took the life of their loved ones. Real true strong parents.
I feel so sorry for the parents, watching this is heartbreaking.
The implication of defensive wounds, the burn marks from the barrel being so close, and multiple fatal shots is really damning, feels like a good argument for death penalty.
I hope so and he's front of the line
Indeed. This evidence implicates Cruz's sadistic and cruel desire to kill and maim. He pressed his rifle into Gina twice and fired at point blank range...and at some point she held up her hand defensively; absolutely awful. DP.
@@eddiecortes6408 Alyssa, Martin, and Alex all had defensive wounds. Heartbreaking to think they knew what was coming and were trying to protect themselves. How could anyone oppose the death penalty for this monster after listening to the autopsies reports of these poor kids who didn't stand a chance?
Is this why everyone has to sit through such graphic descriptions ? I was wondering.
I hope to God every one of those jurors believe in the death penalty.
I love this doctor!! He is very intelligent, answers questions very well, and is very professional. I feel absolutely awful for these families and my love and prayers are with them ❤
I couldn’t imagine sitting less then twenty feet from the person that executed your child, I wouldn’t be able to sit there and be quiet… these parents are completely broken inside. You can see it in their eyes when they’re looking around… this is heartbreaking. Something’s got to give guys, we can’t keep this up.
The US desperately needs strict gun laws.
@@vaanipapadakis2226 the USA needs a lot of things.. completely messed up country of psychopaths
We already do. What happened was result of the killer being on SSRI’s and there is clear warnings in the insert of the drugs that state “ SSRI’s can cause suicidal or homicidal thoughts and actions” to bad he didn’t choose suicidal. The person killed those kids not the gun. He should never have been able to purchase one in the first place if the gun laws were followed.
Multiple failures allowed Cruz to purchase an AR-15 style rifle. Neighbors constantly called police on him. A family friend called the FBI tipline with specific concerns. Miami Field Office should’ve received & investigated. Armed School Resource Officer never went into the school. Broward County School BD, Sheriff’s Office & a Behavioral Clinic failed to report Cruz to the FBI. Cruz could’ve been locked up prior to 2/14/2018 and Parkland victims would be alive.
@@vaanipapadakis2226 Won't prevent this
The fact that Cruz is just sitting there scribbling in his notepad while the descriptions of the autopsies are being given is driving me crazy.
@K M It is almost as if his evil is so much more powerful because he’s able to doodle to hide but think of him as the most horrible creature not even worthy enough to be called an “animal” Step back and observe it’s the only way not to get drawn into his arena
I’ve seen the tussle he got into with the guard at the jail. Boy that guy could’ve dealt some sweet,sweet payback. Missed opportunity.
And he has to listen...but he's literally zoning it out
Nah, look closely. He’s taking peeks at the monitor and his public defense team is gesturing for him to doodle instead of letting him revel in his twisted handiwork.
Someone should rip that pen from his hand and sit him right in front of those parents. He’s a monster. I wish they would strap him to a chair and let each parent take their swings at him until they felt content. Even if it killed him.
How gut wrenching. I simply cannot imagine what those parents have been through in the past 4 years. You never get over something like this.
These families are exhausted. Look at the bags under their eyes. The grief of losing their child and sitting through this is more pain than I can imagine.
Being a mother of three teens I can’t begin to imagine. I heard Max Schachter was there everyday never missed a day in this trial I can’t imagine 😢
@@jponigurl My youngest of three turns 18 next week. When she graduated, one of the things I was thankful about was none of my kids dealt with a school shooting.
Can’t imagine the pain of these parents. My heart breaks for you!
I know. It’s too hard to even imagine. Love to them
@SpaceAce100 lmfao u have 0 game
The death of your child is unimaginable pain...that doesn't go away.
@@thisisme3238 especially a violent death. 🙏🏽
yeah sure ok
It's a little comforting to see this father with his arm around his wife. An incredibly high number of couples who suffer the loss of a child don't succeed at maintaining their marriages. I am glad they still lean on each other. 😔
This is true. After the death of our daughter, my husband and I just never made it back to each other. Divorce is such a heartbreaking but normal thing after going through that kind of grief.
@@jaymee76 True my ex-wife and I handled our grief differently and drifted apart from one another.
So true
@@jaymee76 why? I’ve heard this but why?
@@jenna6421
Losing a child is the worst pain imaginable. You blame yourself, your spouse, doctors, etc. You blame anyone you can think of. No, it's not right but while processing the worse thing that you have ever been through in my case I wanted more than anything for a long time to be by myself. It's hard to explain and I'm sure I did a poor job at it but you just can't stand to be around anyone at all. Plus, no 2 ppl grieve the same so there's that too.
My brother is a Forensic Medical Examiner for 13 years. I have a tight bond with him and I can say that he changed just a year fr working in the morgues and hospitals.
He rarely talks about the deaths his worked on due to confidentiality probably but when he does, he talks vaguely and seemed to not be bothered by the scene he was just at. However, during his first few months, he would come home mortified, spaced out, or I'd often see him drink water more often than when he's just at home, not working.
All I'm saying is that Dr. Osbournes' demeanor is completely normal for me. Watching my brother over the years, I feel like he got used to sucking up whatever he's feeling, no matter how mortifying the scenes he's seen -- he got used to it that he now talks like it just doesn't bother him at all --- otherwise, he'd long quit his job.
Your brother is literally telling the last story of the deceased persons.
He’s kinda speaking for them.
Thank him for his service for me.
Your brother is a strong person.
@@Guillan80 I agree!
At least he isnt drinking alcohol. But I'm a bit confused on how drinking water more often is related to this? I do that to stay hydrated.
As a Nurse (disabled now unfortunately) I can tell you that we “act” fine when we have to in a professional setting. However I can’t tell you the times we took each other into the break room and grieved for our patients and their families… then gathered our thoughts and went back to work to be the professionals we were trained to be. This Physician is in a professional setting. We don’t know how he grieved alone or with other colleagues over the murder of children and teachers. You would WANT him to be professional in court so there wouldn’t be a mistrial.
I can’t imagine the horror of listening to your child’s autopsy in court with the monster that murdered them right there. My heart breaks for Gina’s and all of the other victims parents. I would lose it and try my best to get my hands on him.
Imagine working hard all your life to raise your children and you plan every steps of the way to try to raise a good healthy child and then to be taken away just like that by another child bc he felt like it. I cannot imagine the pain those parents have to endure. It’s truly beyond words….
It is horrific to even ponder…I wouldn’t have the strength to go on.
He wasn’t even a child anymore he was 19. Just another coward that decided to kill children.
He isnt a child.
Not a child not a kid. An absolute atrocity of an adult
When your beloved child die like that, there is no words in this world can describe the pain in your heart.
Exactly. Absolutely none. The world has ended, if this happens to your family.
Nicklaus had an icee after he did this and acted like he did nothing remember that! If this monster doesn't get Death we riot!
He's amazing. How he speaks for the victims & their families even through discomfort & the pain. His strength & knowledge is such a blessing. I bet he's thinking if these victims can't speak I'll speak for them. Bless all the parents with peace. They are so courageous. What a horrific thing to go through in their grief. Sending all their loved ones, love. xoxo
That is what an excellent forensic pathologist/examiner does, speaks for the victims who can no longer speak for themselves. Can't imagine how hard it was for the victims' parents to sit and listen to all of this. But I know they feel they had to be there for their children, the victims.
@@scook5599 How can one choose to be a forensic pathologist, unless having a mobid mentality.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@internetcensure5849 how is that funny?
@@internetcensure5849 not even sure what you’re referring to? What does the possibility of someone in that profession’s curiosity and interest in the field have to do with anything ?
@@internetcensure5849 because you want to give people answers to the question why and how their loved one died. They don't only work on murder cases but also on sudden deaths when someone possibly didn't even know they were ill. It does help people a lot to know why.
The agony on the parents faces is unbearable. So terribly sad they’re going through this. Unimaginable pain and disbelief.
I don’t know how these poor parents suffered through this man’s testimony. I feel bad for him for having to give this testimony. You can tell he’s uncomfortable doing so. Watching this makes me so angry. I would not be able to control myself with that monster killer sitting in front of me. Prayers for all the families affected by this.
He's testified many times before but on most occasions the victim(s) would have been adults. This is something else.
PLEASE stop relying on "prayers". Prayers do less than nothing. They make those people offering them feel like they've acted meaning they do nothing more. A lot more needs to be done here.
He’s very good at what he does and is as tactful as humanly possible. His testimony is heartbreaking, yes, but necessary to get the correct verdict and have all the info of the reality of this horrific day. I do also think maybe the parents should have been strongly advised to not be there for them.
As long as we have a society that's sympathetic with the fate of a criminal, it's gonna get worse ! Nowadays the criminals get more protection than the victims.
@@geoffpoole483 you
I know how it feels to loose a child. 2011 I lost my 11 yr old son in a fire. I was devastated. I still cry. The parents of these angels need our prayers and love. Stay strong!! Never give up!! And when this animal gets the ultimate penalty, make sure you live long enough to be there to show him you enjoy his fear.
I’m so sorry 😖
I'm so sorry for your loss, sending hugs and prayers ❤
I'm sure he was a beautiful boy. I can't imagine your pain. Peace and love to you Steven.
I'm so sorry 😞
The suspect wants to die I feel like killing him isn’t good enough. Torture would suffice
I can’t imagine being one of these parents. Knowing your child was scared out of their mind and tried to prevent being shot! Knowing the fear they were in in their last moments of life…..sickening. This just made me weep for these parents.
That thought alone brought me to tears.
We could see glimpses in the fathers eyes of what he must have been thinking. He must have imagined her putting her hand up 💔
That is so horrible. I'm not even halfway through it and I'm already bawling. These poor people didn't deserve this, I hope they rest forever in peace. And I hope the murderer goes out a horrible horrible way to make up for the horrible actions that he did not only hurting so many victims but also their families. The coroner has my full respect. I could never be in a job where I could witness that and still be sane.
Nobody is forcing you to watch, Einstein. If it bothers you so much, don't watch and don't comment.
@@nickslick75Harsh, but true.
As a father of a 15yr old girl I could feel every emotion of the parents in that court room... I say leave him alone in a room with the parents & let justice be served!!!
I wish these parents are able to find peace/closure someday & may all of their children's souls rest in paradise 🌅
Agree!!
Sadly they will never get peace, the best they can get is to understand why he did it but there is no logical reason and I doubt he will ever explain why he did it.
@@hypehype1463 I doubt he knows why either.
There is justice like that in other countries where they simply give the convicted over to the family and let them deal with him/her and I absolutely believe this should be allowed in the USA
This might not be appropriate but there’s a foreign movie called Lady Vengeance where she does have the parents of the victims alone with their children’s killer to do as they please with him. Crazy movie but the ending is moving.
It hurts to see how deep of a frown these families have. it just shows how much pain they're going through...can't even begin to imagine.
Obviously
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Are you gonna pay for Botox and filler? If not shut it.
The one father looks like he’s never smiled before ☹️
I hope in time, they will know it’s ok to smile and laugh, and feel happy again. Their kids wouldn’t have wanted them to suffer in anguish for all their remaining days.
Ugh I feel like crying just seeing the parents sad faces 😞 nobody should have to go through this
Every time a mass shooting occurs the hate I feel for other humans is overwhelming
I’ve cried watching this I can’t believe they have to listen to this 😞
No they shouldn't, terribly sad.
Nerve-wracking
No One should and yet we have cowards in the millions in America with these death spitters…😡
Seeing Gina's father's face when then doctor read his daughter's age, weight and height broke my heart. She was a little girl snuffed off the earth for no reason. As a parent, I know I'd never recover.
The parents and family members of these victims have held strong. The amount of strength it would take to sit through this and listen to their children’s wounds is unimaginable. The grief and absolute anger that shows on their faces is horrific. God Bless these souls, and the children that were taken far far too soon.
True. It seems to me they don't like the cameras looking at them filming their pain! I would have to agree with them. It's not necessary to watch how the parents react. It's really disrespectful.
Bad enough that the parents/families have to hear & SEE this horror!! Beyond rude for the camera to focus directly in on them!!!
He looked shocked about the defense wound on her hand. Like he knows now that his daughter didn't die right away.
@@roxdarmurray6634 not blame the judge fir having cameras
Imagine holding yourself together and professionally enough, to describe each childs wounds. In front of the parents. My mind is blown. I can't even imagine being strong headed enough to be in that line of work. Peace and Love.
I bet he let his emotions loose when he went home.
@@kathleenschlegel4267 he had to have rage no doubt after leaving that court room
As a parent, I would probably sit through this too because although sad and gruesome, it would be like the last time I'd hear anything about my child. The last person who has been with my child describing what he saw last.
Yes, closure on closure.
very true
I agree. I wouldn't want to be in ignorance of what happened to my child. I would want to know exactly what happened and why they died. Even if it is among the most painful moments of my life, part of having closure is the knowing. I think it's also part of the reason why people will go to great lengths to receive the bodies of their loved ones after a death, even if it's impractical and difficult.
as torturous as it would be to hear, it is the truth, and parents deserve to hear the truth of how their child died. i don’t have children, but to be honest, monsters like this murderer make me scared to ever have kids. i can’t trust sending my kid into an education system without fear of my child being potentially killed. if this happened to my child i would undoubtedly be a mess, probably too much of a mess to speak clearly. props to all of the parents for doing their best in a moment as tough as this.
I wanted to be a Medical Examiner growing up, but decided to go into Pharmacy instead. I made the right choice, there’s no way I could mentally withstand doing autopsies on anyone, especially children… my heart goes out deeply to this doctor and the victim’s families… 😞💔 Bless them all, please…
Weird question, im a senior and im considering of being a pharmacist. What is it like ?
@@nessamariemf boring, autopsies are more important
@@nessamariemf probably less stressful than being a doctor and pays well. I’d say go for it
@@InterMalager Both are equally important. It's not a child's competition
@@tiffanyeyoung1800 funny you should say it's "not a child's compitition" under the circumstances of the perpetrator treating it as one....
This is heart breaking. I just want to hug all these parents.
The look both fathers give at 20:36 to the coward …. My heart goes out to these families . Not sure I could be as strong as they are in the courtroom with this evil guy who took away their loved ones . Prayers
Covering your ears while the screams of the children you slaughtered play, scribbling in a notepad while their horrific autopsies are recounted. Just unfucking believable.
Right you are BUT how is it allowed ??? Unbelievable..
Just need to give him the death penalty.
@@sherryhansen5228 right
So absolutely disrespectful and cowardly
How is he allowed to scribble on a notepad is my question
I applaud this man for his work. It’s not easy to do what he does, mentally and emotionally. Especially when it involves children. He was professional and thorough in his work
This is devastating not just for those poor children to die in such a horrific way, but for the parents as well. You know EVERY SINGLE DECENT parent would trade positions with their children in a heartbeat. It’s unthinkable to know you’ve gone your whole life, raised a beautiful child, and have that ripped away and then having to carry on the rest of your life having lost all your purpose.
It is so unfair! Parents are extremely brave under this heartbreaking circumstances
Having to relive this all.over again must be the most painful for them. Poor parents
Way to say something every person on the planet already knows
I was reading the comments and then realized your name… im weakkkk
And the fact that they have to listen to how horribly and painfully their kids passed is another type of pain
As soon as I saw the group at 2:35, I just knew this would be as emotional as I thought it would be. Those people have been through so much agony and I can't imagine being in their place.
I can’t imagine the pain. These poor parents. As a father of a little girl I’m heartbroken and I’m always going to worry when she goes to school. This is got to stop. Prayers to the poor parents may there children Rest In Peace in paradise
Send her to a private school regardless of your religious beliefs. This will be the best thing you can do for her. My daughter hated I sent her to an all girls school she is now 21 thanking me for sacrificing so much she just got accepted to Harvard on a scholarship. I hope the best for you and your family
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Even harder when you know guns are being brought to school by other students, from when I went and now my daughter who just got in kindergarten, one of my nephews friends, a freshman, is now on house arrest for confronting a senior for bullying 🤦🏾♂️ kids gotta realize this ain’t the answer
Why are the most precious and innocent people we have (young children), continuously the low hanging fruit for these psychopaths committing these massacres. Things need to change, immediately. I also have two children and it is horrifying to think this can happen to children or anyone for that matter.
@TrashOnly Parkland is just west of Boca Raton. It’s a beautiful and wealthy area. If it can happen there it can happen anywhere, including any private school. All schools need better security.
The doctor thought 100x times before choosing a word about wounds to not hurt families. He was so professional yet I felt how the first father catched every word like "chest, heart". I am rooting for those people.
So true.
He should be forced to have to look up and see and also hear everything that is being said or recording of that day. He should have to look at every face he destroyed and murdered that day.
Exactly!
Defendants are told to draw, write, etc during a trial of any kind. Go look at any trial and see what the defendant is doing. It's not just Nikolas Cruz. And it's not a coloring book 🙄 defendants are kept occupied during a trial to deter them from looking at the jury or victims, or doing anything really that could affect their case. It's not like he asked for his crayola crayons and his sippy cup.
Yes but he does not give a sxxx no feelings total sick psychopath
This man giving testimony and explanation of all of these wounds had such a hard job. He did it professionally and I believe with as much respect to the families as possible. Of course, the parents in the room had the hardest job of them all. I hope they find some measure of peace in whatever sentence is handed down here. My heart goes out to them.
Dr. Marlon Osbourne Pathologist did an excellent job explaining the wounds that caused the deaths of these unfortunate young people. He does this for a living and has many years of experience in this field. It is certainly very brutal for the parents of the deceased people to hear, but they do not have to remain there, they can step out, if it is too much. It is necessary to understand, precisely how each person died, so that if there will be no doubt as to why the Death Penalty has been imposed, if it has been imposed. After listening to this gruesome testimony, there will be no doubt that the Death Penalty does fit this heinous crime committed by Nikolas Cruz.
Well said.
In a case like this, will they just wait until he's 18 to execute him?
The parents are there for their children who cannot speak for themselves. As big a nightmare this is, the parents are advocating for their children.
Many people surprisingly don't understand the reason you mentioned as well as the countless other reasons a thorough and detailed analysis of each victims wound/s is absolutely essential as hard and unbearable as they are to listen to. What strength it must take as a parent or loved ones and friends to the victims to hear such details all over again. Re-victimization for hopefully the last or close to the last time for the family and friends to the beautiful, young souls lost 💔💕
I say he rots in prison. Death penalty is just an easy way out to be honest.
So, so very sorry to these families. The fact that none of them tried to kill this guy in court is truly astonishing. I am so very proud of these mother, fathers, brothers, sisters and friends of all the victims. So very proud of their resilience and strength. God bless them all. So sorry again
Full time single dad here who has a 15 year old. I gave up my business to save my son already! Went from Rich to poor because money means nothing compared to your children, I only say this because there are so many loser dads out there who won't even see their kids much less destroy your lifes work to save their kid from a bad situation! So I am just going to say this! If it was my son I would of put that kids brains on the floor and then mine. But it wouldn't have been fast. I would of got control of him and put him in front of me and have my back to the wall where it is impossible for anyone to do anything other than run or watch. I would then turn to all the other parents and say "This is how justice in a situation like ours should be carried out. Today, I am the judge, the jury and the executioner! You having to deal with this for even another day ends here. I am sorry to those who loved me but my life has already been taken and I must go be with my baby boy because he needed me in this life, and he needs me in the next. BOOM BOOM BOTH ON THE FLOOR, AND NO CHANCE OF THEM TAKING ME IN! Ladies and gentleman of the jury, we thank you for your service but this court is adjourned.
I feel so sorry for the parents, I’m crying and I wish I could hug all the parents.
Respect to all of these brave parents, standing up for their lost ones in the court against unimaginable pain they must be going through. Pure respect to each and every one of them. And somehow when I look at their faces, I see good, civil people who did everything for their kids, and still doing so...Wishing patience and strength to all.
25:00-26:00 he didn't just shoot far away like you think. He stuck his weapon right to that 14 yr old girls skin. He was up close. How horrible. We need to know how evil this is.
Not that it makes it better but i thought he just stuck his ugly head into each classroom and just shot randomly. the fact that he was that close, looked them in the eye, TOUCHED them with his gun… gut wrenching. how could someone do thar
Thats not even getting shot. Theres a different word for getting shot like that. He blasted them. I didnt know any of this. Just horrible
he not only shot them, for some of them he came back and shot them two or three more times after they were already mortally wounded or dead, she may have been one of them
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For Chris Hixon and Joaquin Oliver, he shot them several times and then came back to finish the job several minutes later, in between terrorizing hallway kids or the classrooms.
I am a Doctor, and I can tell he did an excellent, professional and necessary description , but at the same time I am thinking about how painful was for parents to be there and hear that in details.
My profound respect for all of them. 🙏
Oh man. Gina's parents rocked me. I am so sorry to all those who lost their babies to this senseless violence. And to all the other parents who have gone, are going and will go through this. I cant even imagine their pain❤
I can’t imagine hearing that the monster stood over your child and executed her while she tried to shield herself.
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The doctor did a great job explaining. Imagine having a room full of grieving parents and you have to explain how their children tragically lost their lives and whether they suffered or not. Him pausing and at times stuttering shows he was having some difficulty getting through explaining what these children went through.
It looks like he's had to describe the deaths of 2500 people in his career so he's an expert. This has to be easier than explaining to each of them personally. What a sad and difficult job he has.
These parents look so defeated, I cannot imagine how painful this is for them.
Gina Montalto's parents broke my heart. No parent should go thru this. I'm shedding tears for all these families who lost their babies, there are no words.
I cried when I saw them hear their little girls name.... The look on her father's face broke my heart..... Those poor parents 💔 😢
So many of them were beautiful little kids. None of them deserved to be gunned down like this.
As someone who’s lost a child myself, seeing the grief on these parents’ faces causes so much empathy in me for them, it hurts my head and makes me sob. I feel so much for them; it brings all the memory of the pain of grief back to me. Their children SHOULD still be alive! They should NOT be dead! It’s so unfair. I’m so sorry they are going through this.
I'm so sorry
@Michelle B I am so sorry you lost a child. God bless you.
Im incredible sorry for your loss
Especially the fact it was so unexpected and violent just makes it far far worse too. Sorry for your loss, I believe you'll be with them again
@Luca Tarantino This is not pain olympics. Get out of the comments with trying to make a mothers feelings invalid, it’s absolutely disgusting.
These brave parents. I can't imagine trying to have that kind of restraint.
No kidding, the thought of the sick twisted progressives allowing mentally unstable psychopaths to roam free to attack innocent kids is enough to make anyones blood boil.
My exact thoughts..
I wish the cameras wouldn’t focus so long on the parents. They’re doing this for their reactions. It kind of disgusts me to be honest. They’re going through this unimaginable torment yet the news is determined to constantly film their grief. Shame on them!
You are also watching for the reactions
Blame the judge for allowing cameras. She could've no
@@Pedroism i believe thats incorrect because this is florida. Legally obligated to show this
@@omensoffate youre assuming thats why
Thats what the news does 🤷♂️ i agree tho, vultures
This ME has my respect and I appreciate all persons in the medical field that can keep themselves composed and professional. Also, the ones who say he’s cold, he’s testifying 4 YEARS AFTER this tragedy happened! That’s 4 years to compose himself. I’m sure the days and nights after doing all those autopsies for those innocent souls were some of the worst he’s had to go through. Plus after doing over 2500 autopsies, I’m pretty sure he has a way to deal/heal with what he sees. God bless him and all medical professionals that have to see, find out a diagnosis, and give the news to the families of loved ones that they have treated. 🙏💕
Thankyou for all you do Kimmie and this is very well said!
@@LindyQ Thank you my friend! 🫶🤗
23:43 You can tell Gia’s dad was relieved and took comfort knowing her death was instant in that moment with minimal pain. My thoughts and condolences to all the families and fellow humans this gruesome act impacted.
He actually knew of this information, over 4 years ago.
But she did get shot once in the hand that she put up as a defensive wound before the shots that went to her heart. This is horrendous. My heart is so heavy for all of the people in this room except the perpetrator.
@@Teresa-Anne Even if he knew, you could see the relief in his posture and facial expression for a second. You can know something but still find comfort in it years from when you learned it. Basic human emotions and how neurons and memories work in tandem.
Such a light hearted comment
@@ItsWoadie some people dont get it
If this young man doesn’t get the death penalty there is seriously something wrong with our legal system
Too bad they wouldn't allow the parents to slowly torture him until he dies a horrible ☠️☠️☠️☠️
What he did is absolutely monstrous! I almost feel like death would be an easy way out for him.
What good is that going to do? House and feed him for the next 50 years and he’ll end up dying behind bars like Charles Manson. There is no death penalty at that point.
If I were a juror, he would be on death row. HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE! JERK!
He very likely will get the death penalty. Florida does have that as a punishment in their state laws. The death penalty is reserved for those who commit particularly heinous crimes, like serial killers, torturing and killing children/adults--as they should. People like this school shooter should not be allowed to continue living.
22:57 (testimony talks about a child being shot in the chest at point blank range, if not, touching the chest) both men in the frame, shake their head in disbelief because it’s hard to believe someone can be so callous; especially to a child💔 my heart goes out to all of the families
That was Gina Montalto’s wounds. The larger gentleman is her father, wife Gina’s mother to his right. And the other gettleman conforting him was Max Schacter, Alex’s. Max is so compassionate that he if often seen comforting other parents.
Argh. Some if those kids had absolutely no chance that day. Absolutely tragic.
@@orquideafernandez3977 Gina and Alex were also in the Band and Color guard together, and as someone who was in band myself, all the parents of members tend to be very close as they often chaperone or volunteer together. I'm sure this hit them doubly hard. My dad was a Band Dad and saw all the band/guard kids as his adopted kids.
I felt that Dad's reaction, I'm so sorry they have to go through this.
Absolutely heartbreaking and to think that nothing got better after parkland is so disheartening. America has a real problem.
Doctors blanket prescribing anti-depressants after they got caught getting half the country hooked on opiates?
Oh, you mean guns, those things that've been all over this country since the beginning but are only now a problem once some politicians see a way to exploit another tragedy...
And what's that problem? Cause it's not a firearm one.
@@Thiccness_Is_Delicious Gun laws are the problem
@@Thiccness_Is_Delicious and you can prove that how? 🙄
@@jazzy3143 no mental illness is the problem dont blame the gun
I can't imagine this as a parent myself. I don't think I would possess half the amount of self control, that these fathers are showing us. My heart breaks for these parents and their families.
4 years have passed.
@@internetcensure5849 doesn’t matter if it’s 100 years. These children are never coming back.
Why are you a banana 🍌
That kid shouldn’t made it to court or jail!
@@internetcensure5849 I'm sure it probably still feels as raw as it did on the day
I have a 6 month old son. My first child. I love him to pieces and he completely changed my look on life, such a humbling experience. I can’t imagine losing him. I hope I die before he does. Hope these parents find closure.
He explains things so well. I am in admiration of his job and heartbroken for the parents who bravely listened to all the details.