Hype vs Reality - Keychron K2 Keyboard Review

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  • @rezaebrahimi9807
    @rezaebrahimi9807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +751

    You’re literally the one reviewer that discussed wrist strain, great review and attention to ergonomics. Most reviewers focus on switches and context around that.

    • @toniwonkanobi
      @toniwonkanobi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah. I appreciated that. Is there a similarly nice-looking keyboard out there which has better ergonomics and maybe isn't as flimsy feeling with the keycaps?

    • @_nmd3758
      @_nmd3758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      TaeKeyboard did a review that mentioned that

    • @rezaebrahimi9807
      @rezaebrahimi9807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anthony Craig ended up buying the keychron K1 low profile red witch mechanical keyboard. I love the clacking sound it’s for home use so if you’re planning it in the office it’s pretty audible and as for ergonomics it’s wonderful minimal strain

    • @ApexierGS
      @ApexierGS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Switch and Click" mentioned that and every other Keychron keyboard as it they have a 5 degree incline as opposed to a more normal 7 degree incline on their keyboard. I cant justify why Keychron went with a shallower angle the only reason to justify a shallow angle is if they decide to go with uniform profile DSA or XDA profile keycaps rather than, curved profile Cherry-profile or OEM-profile keycaps which are known to have a staggered rising profile to the top of the keyboard as compared to the bottom row.

    • @jnazor
      @jnazor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s bad ergonomics to rest your wrist whilst typing. It’s a bad habit.

  • @jamakasis18
    @jamakasis18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    "Guys our keyboard's too fat"
    "Jon, get that plank from over there"

    • @hehaskillaura_4593
      @hehaskillaura_4593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "and make people pay for it some big money"

  • @TruthReviews
    @TruthReviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +858

    Finally an honest and open review that doesn’t only give a “this is great and nothing else to be said “ approach.

    • @Sam_Mitch
      @Sam_Mitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Julius Kelvin i don't give a damn

    • @sabriahabbas8714
      @sabriahabbas8714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      honest is expensive on youtube

    • @essa4553
      @essa4553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sabriahabbas8714 very profound statement-love it

    • @gwho
      @gwho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i hate those reviews lol. better to say "this sucks, and here's why"

    • @MaximumEfficiency
      @MaximumEfficiency ปีที่แล้ว

      but he didn't really say anything - it's just a regular keyboard...?

  • @kevanmorinphoto
    @kevanmorinphoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    Damn, that transition on the sideview profile...that was smooth.

    • @lauens
      @lauens 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Time stamp??

    • @lauens
      @lauens 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-op8fg3ny3j thank you!

    • @99luan99
      @99luan99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      1.46 you are welcome

    • @datboimike1555
      @datboimike1555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      was that a crossfade?

  • @justauser
    @justauser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm glad you mentioned wrist strain. The V2 verison aims to fix this, it would be nice to see an updated review!

  • @johnstjohn4705
    @johnstjohn4705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice review. I liked the K2 so much, I got a K4, and I have a K6 on order. I recently transitioned to mechanical keyboards from Apple keyboards. I'm 75, and I was starting to hit adjacent keys and making double taps too much. I blame the big chiclet keys with not enough space between the keys...for me at least. I learned touch typing on a manual typewriter, and if the teacher caught you resting your wrists, you were in big trouble. Times change and I got into the habit of resting my wrists. I'm actually enjoying holding my hands up as I learned to do so long ago. I did build a riser out of Legos for the K4 to give it more tilt. I'm loving my Keychrons, and my typing is improving.

    • @heshamkisher6523
      @heshamkisher6523 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you're enjoying it! I'm pretty much the same in the sense that I'm also fine with my hands floating above the keyboard but I do have the palm rest on order (my first palm rest was the Logitech one that I used with their MX Keys and I love it!). Your idea with the lego is genius!

  • @hm5800
    @hm5800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    You seem to have this preconception that Gateron switches are Cherry MX clones, therefore they are worse. Which is so far from the truth. Most people would actually say Gaterom switches are equal if not better than Cherry MX switches in general. I think you're just subconsciously affected by the brand name as Cherry MX is sort of the "standard" outside the MK enthusiast community.

    • @Yt-qi9ot
      @Yt-qi9ot ปีที่แล้ว

      I like cherry better than gateron. Less finger fatigue.

    • @dasdadasdasd4917
      @dasdadasdasd4917 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Yt-qi9ot you may need a bit lighter switches, it has nothing to do with a brand

    • @SpeedBuff420
      @SpeedBuff420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Yt-qi9ot just shows how much you dont know about switches.

  • @senget
    @senget 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Got the K2 red switch when it first launched on Kickstarter. Initially that thickness did turn me off but I eventually got used to it, without a need for wrist rest.

    • @StrangerDanger352
      @StrangerDanger352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's it so far ?
      Would you recommend me buying it?

  • @SnowyNowak
    @SnowyNowak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    "There is a slight tactile bump that's not as pronounced as Cherry Browns"
    Implying that Cherry MX Browns have a pronounced tactile bump in the first place

    • @mathewchen3847
      @mathewchen3847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Seriously, you can hear the difference in if a switch is tactile or linear and lubed cherry browns just sound like linears

    • @hannibalkim
      @hannibalkim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Cherry browns are like scratching than a bumb. Worst tactile named switch.

    • @daniellombardi3670
      @daniellombardi3670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      And implying that cherry MX are better than gaterons....like, their switches are so scratchy, I feel reds are almost more tactile that browns (although that is not hard)

    • @ahmedt3807
      @ahmedt3807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he should try zilents

    • @369standrealfine
      @369standrealfine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah lol I stopped after that sentence

  • @neettim
    @neettim หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had my K2 for a while now and my wrists are constantly being stressed. I wanted to see if others had an opinion on it because this keyboard was so popular. Thanks for your segment on it!

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Didn't notice the band aid until you mentioned it...

    • @vinicius401
      @vinicius401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @mattbmxer
      @mattbmxer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read your comment and then made it my mission to find the band aid before he mentioned it.
      Mission failed.

  • @dannywinget
    @dannywinget 4 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    THICC BOI

  • @davidguo1829
    @davidguo1829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Bought one of these as my daily workhorse keyboard about two months ago, and wanted to share my own experience after watching this video.
    1. Thickness. Agreed that it's too thick. Highly recommend getting a palm rest, or if you are cheap like me, using a rolled up towel :-)
    2. Switches. No complains. I've used cherrys before on some high-end keyboards, and the Gateron browns on my K2 stack up well.
    3. Inconsistency. Doesn't bother me. The inconsistency might be noticeable when doing a keyboard "review", but in reality, you're mostly likely to be focused on what you're doing on the screen, rather than letting you ear be annoyed by the sound difference between the enter key and the space bar.
    4. Price difference between official site and Amazon. I was shocked at first too. Then I realized the price on the site doesn't include shipping, while Amazon has free (or close to free) shipping. So it all evens out.
    5. Battery life and Bluetooth connection. Good enough that I don't even think about battery life or Bluetooth connection.
    Overall, let's just say it's several millimeters away from being the perfect keyboard in its price range.

    • @codyfournellcsrf5164
      @codyfournellcsrf5164 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      so I use bt. Headphones and mouse... Would this cause issues with any of them? I'm scared of dropped connectiom

  • @glennismade
    @glennismade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of the complaints you list (not being cherry, click/squeeky enter key, hight, brown switches etc) are actually not issues with the board. But, rather enthusiast level details. Cherry are not worth the money in my opinion. Like at all, Gateron are great switches and are great value for money.
    The squeak is purely down to stabilisers not being the best and are simple enough to replace and/or loop up. The switches are are entirely personal preference. (as are key caps).
    So, I hate to say this, but comparing a custom board form Keychron or Idabao etc with a G-SKill is a little iffy.

  • @Cinekeysbytommy
    @Cinekeysbytommy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    2:17 It's the little details that count. We all appreciate your hardwork guys ! (I'd like to know how you did that)

    • @smallaluz
      @smallaluz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its a fairly simple morph transition (can be done in vid editors like sony vegas after effects etc)

  • @tatwo_
    @tatwo_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    11:10 Dollar shave club would have been fitting sponsor for this. :P

    • @e21big
      @e21big 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @00Shaurya.
      @00Shaurya. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmfaooo

  • @simonholmqvist8017
    @simonholmqvist8017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    "There is a slight tactile bump that's not as pronounced as cherry browns..."
    r/mechanicalkeyboards: "You son of a...!

    • @Donbros
      @Donbros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      :DDD do non enthusiasts know what tactility is?

    • @juultoo
      @juultoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Donbros no

    • @simonholmqvist8017
      @simonholmqvist8017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Donbros Mech keyboard beginner: mmm... love this tactility.
      Enthusiast: Uh, you mean scratchyness, rigth?
      btw, I'm writing this on a ducky cherry brown keyboard

    • @Donbros
      @Donbros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@simonholmqvist8017 cherry switches: you want clicky feel but hate clicky switches, you choose brown and understand that it scratchy red, so you get red expecting it not to be scratchy and feel that it is not smooth XD basically if you are into linears cherry here at least have some unique keys options like black, silver speed or silent red/black. Brown is the only choice if you are only into tactiles

    • @darkripjaww
      @darkripjaww 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Donbros What about Clears?

  • @Bensonisalsobenz
    @Bensonisalsobenz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nuclear Nadal! You've done your dream job since Aladeen abandoned you! Great content! keep up the good work!

  • @adamchatko
    @adamchatko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd really be interested in the details about your custom Varmilo keyboard... looks awesome! :)

  • @NeoChromer
    @NeoChromer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Typing this on a keychrone, its just awesome! Using on mac and windows.. love it

  • @Dr_Aien
    @Dr_Aien 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Random comment but GOD DAMN the lightning of this shot at 6:17 is beautiful !
    Well done Eber !

  • @SomeGirth
    @SomeGirth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I'm not understanding the fascination with cherry. My gat browns are better than every cherry switch I've tried.

    • @wombit
      @wombit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      reply above me is definitely the type of person to buy a mac

    • @widow3151
      @widow3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i love my gat reds!

    • @hrvojekrsnik6572
      @hrvojekrsnik6572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      For starters even gat are naming their switches according to standards Cherry set. Cherrys were the original that started the mechanical keyboard craze and for the longest time were the only real choice as nothing really came close. Only in the last few years we've seen other manufacturers coming up with decent switches of their own. No wonder people still consider them to be the golden standard. You can be pretty sure every company making their own switches are comparing themselves to Cherry.

    • @wombit
      @wombit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hrvojekrsnik6572 tldr

    • @melissadelonghi6131
      @melissadelonghi6131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wombit Five sentences is too long for you to read? OMFG, that's just sad.

  • @krmendez8
    @krmendez8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got mine but I'm returning it. If you read about the customer service experiences your jaw will drop. One dude posted that they wanted to send him a replacement switch and said that he would have to solder it on. Incredible.

  • @dstarr3
    @dstarr3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Are you saying "Wal-Mart grey keycaps?"

    • @a3ng25
      @a3ng25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if he is...he said he loves them lol

  • @remusb
    @remusb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! I think it's the first review to mention the ergonomics and the fact how much matters the height of the keyboard

  • @happyheartslee
    @happyheartslee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    KEYCHRON K2 :Just dropping by to contribute my review after seeing so many reviews on youtube and i finally got one.
    I am a newbie in mech keyboards. So this is my first one after going through so many videos and finally deciding on this one. PERFECT.
    I really like this keyboard, typing on it right now. It charges well, connects well and just wonderful to type on. I use it for programming and normal tasks,no gaming. So for people like me, it is perfect! Previously I was all out Logitech and I though they were the best, I know now. This is better!
    But it is heavy. I got the aluminium base. So i dont think it is suitable to take outside.

  • @varsas
    @varsas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Interesting review, looks like they might have addressed the profile issue in v2 and other models. What are the alternatives wireless mechanical keyboards in the same price bracket?

  • @Angryjenkinsdigital
    @Angryjenkinsdigital 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    white backklight, brown mechanical switches, I'm a happy camper. Wrist rest is DEFINITELY a necessity. I own a fluffy one for gaming sessions, considering the sleek wooden k2 one though.

  • @smigglesmiggles614
    @smigglesmiggles614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Could you review the latest version? They added an incline to the keyboard and I was wondering if it made much difference.

  • @therion961
    @therion961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've got a Keychron 2 v2 and it is a great keyboard. Very happy with the purchase. Not uncomfortable at all to type, love the RGB. Very pleasant keyboard. Could it be possible that you are biased toward other companies?

    • @JechtNH
      @JechtNH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could it be possible that two human beings have a different opinion?

    • @therion961
      @therion961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JechtNH outrageous! Lol

  • @amadorosendo6949
    @amadorosendo6949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey guys, people that are thinking of getting this keyboard, do not get scared of this review or change your mind. The company has made changes to the keyboard build and it is a lot slimmer. :)

  • @AndriasKosasih
    @AndriasKosasih 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got the blue switch Keychron K2. The first unit they sent me had actually a defective key. I had to smash down the key for it to work. They send the replacement immediately including all shipping costs by them.
    Don't think it is quite fair to compare it to GSkill KM360 wired keyboard for $50 considering Keychron K2 is both wireless and wired. I got mine for $59.20 during Black Friday sale. This is my first TKL keyboard. I have to say I am quite happy with it. The main attraction for me is that this is wireless and the perfect keyboard for my HTPC. Yes it is quite fat, but I tried gaming with it and it feels fine. No windows Bluetooth connectivity issues.

  • @NaveTGT
    @NaveTGT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Nothing against you, Ibra, but I have some stuff I'd like to mention.
    As the main man to review keyboards on the HC channel, I'd like you to try out different options that you haven't, because by the looks of it, you are lacking some knowledge that could elevate this video and plenty of future videos you'll make about keyboards.
    Mainly, I'm talking about callouts like such:
    7:34 "Traditional Cherry switches" is a mention that has practically lost it's meaning within the keyboard community a while ago (although a lot of us love some of the Cherry switches), and it started to lose its meaning last year with practically every other keyboards manufacturer either making their own switches, like the Romer G and Razer's switches, but with others going with different options like Kailh switches and Gateron. Also, most of the most praised switches from the community are somewhat Gateron based like Zeal's switches that use the Gateron housing, or the currently very popular Gateron Inks. Heck, one of the best stock linear switches is the Kailh x NovelKeys Cream switches.
    7:50 Your preference is your preference, but I'd love a video that explains your experience with keyboards and switches, because as far as I remember you've never uploaded a video of any 'premium' switch. Saying that, maybe give a go to a completely custom one or a build using a hotswap board or something, check out some TaehaTypes videos or something and learn new things that you could share with the audience. I'd love to watch that!
    8:07 You're calling out a squeak or something - Would that be just the switch spring sort of echoing because they use Cherry profile switches on a pretty much huge hollow space within the case as far as I know (although if this is a retail version of this keyboard, expect some lesser quality switches, that'll happen with Cherry and Kailh as well because not every single switch is perfect). Also, you're comparing several keys without mentioning the stabilizers at all, might be lack of lube or a lower quality stabilizer that causes that as well.
    8:30 If you'd tell someone that you have a wireless, bluetooth, mechanical keyboard that has a 4000 mAh battery and charges via USB type C for 69 bucks, I'd expect them to understand the 'unbinned' switches. For this price point you're getting much more than most keyboards on the market.
    Reason I'm mentioning this is because I really like keyboard content. I've started this EXPENSIVE hobby a couple of years ago with the GMMK TKL that I've modded slightly to perform better and be quieter, and am slowly maturing it and getting closer and closer to my (hopefully) endgame set. Problem I have with the mainstream tech channels is that channels like yours, Jayz2Cents, RandomFrankP and even LinusTechTips is that while you do go for the mainstream angle and have the mainstream knowledge, if you could increase the info you can share to your audience, such as what Frank did with him diving into custom mechanicals and recently even Linus went ahead and made his own (and has some more videos on the way according to his FB), which could elevate this content, as it did in my opinion to one smaller channel by the name of BadSeed Tech.
    Typing this on a GK64S (99USD for a wooden case, aluminum plate and the hotswap bluetooth board with a 4000mAh battery) with currently Kailh Box Royals (around 55 bucks for 90 switches) until Drop ships the aqua Zilents and SA Miami Night (99USD)

    • @AtomicBleach
      @AtomicBleach 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @NaveTGT
      exactly. Nice review of his review. lmao. But seriously comparing gateron browns to mx speeds and complaining about bigger key noise which is easily fixed by checking the grease on the stabilizer bars, just makes this review seem uneducated. Also thought it was strange that he didn't mention keychron's other keyboards, the fact that they have optical switches, and hotswappable boards now.

    • @l33yo_30
      @l33yo_30 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts exactly! There are things he pointed out that were not exactly for the lack of words, right, and things he missed or failed to mention that a more knowledgeable person likely won't.

  • @ALNNN024
    @ALNNN024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do have the keyboard but didn't had any issues with BT or with the height of itself, might because I have big hands, nice feedback there and maybe they listen to customers like you said .. I have the brown gatereon / white lights and I'm pretty happy with it 😊

  • @stephenwang7239
    @stephenwang7239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I bought the K4 (brown) and am loving it! I don't feel an issue with the height at all, switching from the Razer Blackwidow V2. I guess it is up to personal preference at the end of the day

    • @blipojones2114
      @blipojones2114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      also just ordered k4, very excited

  • @oscarbarrios
    @oscarbarrios 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    totally agree, I preordered this keyboard and after using it for a week I sold it, it was good on paper but the execution left me wanting something more. Went and bought a Velocifire instead, not the same flexibility of connectivity but a much more solid keyboard.

  • @antonyserralta
    @antonyserralta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought it like a week ago and I'm really please with my purchase. I used to have the Drevo Calibur V2 with outemu brown and I think that switching from outemu to gateron was really nice and also the plus of have it a wireless is just nice. I haven't noticed much of the sounds of the switches because I always use my headphones. I have noticed that the keyboard is a little bit tall, but it help with my ergonomics because it forces me to sit down straight. To summarize: I love the keyboard I just need to change the keycaps but it's hard to find ones that fits the keyboard right side and it makes it harder to live in Mexico.

  • @DannyLrides
    @DannyLrides 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got my K2 from amazon. It came out to the same cost as it would have on Keychron’s website due to shipping chargers whereas I already have amazon prime.

    • @Tennisfiles
      @Tennisfiles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you like it so far?

  • @jasonfoo660
    @jasonfoo660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always nice to see Hardware Canucks talking about mechanical keyboards. Keep up the great work!

    • @Makav3ll1
      @Makav3ll1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He had no idea what he was talking about

    • @jasonfoo660
      @jasonfoo660 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Makav3ll1 lol

  • @FunFreakeyy
    @FunFreakeyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My experience: I have the K4 (the bigger one with a numpad) with Gateron Yellows, the metallic reverb isn't audible, only if I smash the spacebar and hold my head 10cm away from it, so it's no problem from a normal distance. I've about 20cm/8 inch large hands, from middle finger tip to wrist, and the height is no problem, but I don't rest my wrist that much, I'm using my forearm. For the connectivity, works with Android (in Win/Android mode) and Linux (in MacOS mode), don't know about Windows. So your concerns are legit for a lot of people but under my circumstances no problem. The only thing I'll do soon is lubing the switches for the known benefits.

  • @bludangell
    @bludangell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was on the verge of buying one of these having seen them across a number of channels. Clearly their PR bod has been earning their pay check! Time to reconsider me thinks...

  • @AhanuWoW
    @AhanuWoW 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a long-time user of the Keychron K2 mini, I’ve got some insights to share! 🎉
    Keyboard Height: Personal preference matters, and for me, the laying the keyboard flat with the bulky profile works just fine. 🙌
    Bluetooth Performance: My Bluetooth experience was solid, with only minor gameplay lag. Not a deal-breaker! ⚡
    Backlighting Choices: White backlighting is classy, but my inner ADD leans toward the colorful options. 🌈
    Keycap Sets: Standard keycap sets enhance the overall experience. I’ve rocked PTB white keycaps, creating a mesmerizing light show! 🌟
    Sleek Aesthetics: My current build features PTB Black keycap low-profile caps-sleek and sound-improved! 🎵
    Noise Dampening: O-rings on the stems work wonders for reducing metallic clatter. Budget-friendly fix! 🔇
    Switches: I’m a red switch fan, but considering brown switches for backup. Always good to have options! 🔴🔵
    In summary, the Keychron K2 is a fantastic board, especially if you love customizing keycaps. And yes, hot-swappable switches are a game-changer! Which I believe Keychron carry keyboards with this layout and profile that have Hot-Swappable switches.🤓🔥

  • @rainingman338
    @rainingman338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sorry but you are not supposed to type with your wrist on the desk. Thats just not how it is done. You either raise your hands up completely, hovering over the keyboard or you but a wrist rest. You can only do the wrist on desk technique on Laptops or non mechanical Keyboards

    • @rainingman338
      @rainingman338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@River_Miles even most low profile keyboards are very unhealthy...

  • @Michael-pg7rv
    @Michael-pg7rv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The BT on this board is actually flawless. I got it set up with 2 devices in like 2 mins with no hiccups.

  • @Excal111
    @Excal111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    recently got myself a K2 to replace my Razer Ornata Chroma V2 because im working toward building out a full wireless peripheral setup. Not sure if i got a newer iteration of the keyboard since mine has a slight angle without the legs extended, might just be because ive got the RGB version. Personally I love it, its very small compared to the Ornata and fits my playstyle for games perfectly, i tend to have my mouse on a very low DPI so i happen to make a lot of large movements. So far the only issue ive got with it, and its more of me than the keyboard, is that the spacing of the keys is just a bit different than the Ornata so i tend to make more mistakes or tap two buttons at the same time when typing. I do agree that a wristrest is probably something that most people will need if theyre going to be using it for typing or extended gaming sessions. love the review, keep it up!

  • @RobCabreraCh
    @RobCabreraCh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a K4 from Keychron. I wanted the number pad for work, and I also wanted to keep the top row of mac specific keys. I'll be using mine with a kvm to jump between my iMac and my windows PC. I can't wait!

  • @rishabhsingh1403
    @rishabhsingh1403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can you share the link to your 'custom' Varmilo? Great key cap color combination. Thanks

  • @mcgothbox1
    @mcgothbox1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this thing but my application may not be 100% real world. I replaced a Apple magic keyboard that was about as thin as they come and was almost impossible to type on. My setup is a MAC mini attached to a Wacom 22 inch drawing screen on a rolling desk so i can draw in my arm chair. The Keychron works great for this as i have to have all things small and portable and as few connections as possible. The thickness is actually great as i have it on my lap to enter passwords and quick searches. My main gaming set up has a full size full rgb with cherry speed switches non wireless.

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought one in their Kickstarter campaign, and I have to say that the biggest complaint I have is regarding it's height. After a week my wrists were hurting badly. I was only able to use it after buying a wrist rest.
    In overall I am very happy with it. Specially as it is one of the few mechanical keyboards that offer Mac keys (really actually following the Mac layout).
    They're not awesome, but very good for the price, imho.

    • @REVENANT310
      @REVENANT310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which wrist rest did you get?

  • @anayravindra8369
    @anayravindra8369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since it is hot swappable you could always swap the gat browns with the cherry speeds

  • @lamclaughlan
    @lamclaughlan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Got one of these with the optical switches and was similarly disappointed with the consistency and feel of the switches. Sold it and bought a Glorious GMMK TKL with Gateron brown switches, and really liking that. I'm preferring how smooth the Gateron brown switches are, better than my ducky with MX browns.

    • @chasedoe2594
      @chasedoe2594 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me it's another story. I used to daily drive Cooler Master Pro L with MX Brown but one of the key went bad and Cooler Master replace me with MX Red RGB instead (they ran out of Blue and Brown). I couldn't bear the linear switch and I kind of need keyboard ASAP and most of the MX Brown keyboard in the market is either out of stock or the price is just crazy for pre-built. So I decide to try Gateron Brown (without trying it out due to covid thing). And TBH I hated it, I just too linear for me.
      I ended up switch back to MX Brown by order HP K10C from China and my Gateron Brown went back into its box.

  • @smitpatel5868
    @smitpatel5868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    which keyboard is it which you used for comparison?

  • @AtomicBleach
    @AtomicBleach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't have the K2 but Im rocking the K4 (numpad version). A thicker 0.75" wrist rest is a must. I haven't had any Bluetooth issues connecting to my PC, using a pcie wifi 6/bluetooth 5 card. You really should do a review on the k4/k6 which come with optical switches. Also saying cherry switches are superior to gateron switches when you have the brown switches is slightly petty. The issues you are having with the larger keys are just due to the support bracket bars needing more lube. Seems to be a QC issue. The hollow sound is indeed due to the large space behind pcb.. I had to lube my backspace and left shift key supports as the squeak was terrible. Also the white led version has less of the cool color tone that you were mentioning and more neutral.

  • @ratulsaha9487
    @ratulsaha9487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the K2 version 2. I fucking love this keyboard. Going from a 30$ mechanical keyboard to this is so great.

  • @gaweyn
    @gaweyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    8:39 G.SKILL KM360? No bluetooth/wireless, totally different layout, why exactly does it come into your mind?

    • @johnlvs2run
      @johnlvs2run 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks to the recommendation, I'm looking at the KM360.
      Many people don't use and don't want a bluetooth/wireless keyboard.

  • @jkmorbo
    @jkmorbo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for pointing out the height issue. It's the only reason why I didn't buy it. I was so close to pulling the trigger but man that keyboard is just way too bulky.

  • @LorenzBarcelona
    @LorenzBarcelona 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Careful with those wrist rests man, putting pressure on the median nerve can cause carpal tunnel

    • @maxix545
      @maxix545 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      so is it better to not use one at all?? I've never used one and I don't have any sort of pain but my keyboards always've been really low.

    • @LorenzBarcelona
      @LorenzBarcelona 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      maxix545 better not to use one and if ever, a soft one would be better than a solid one. I think most ideal is that situation though with a low profile keyboard

  • @saifal-badri
    @saifal-badri 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review, I agree about the white and that was my LED color choice

  • @pendchode
    @pendchode 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great honest review, thanks dude! btw, didn't even notice the bandaid until YOU pointed it out hahaha

  • @OFFLINEMK
    @OFFLINEMK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i came from a HP GK100 and for me this is one of the best keyboards ever, I think for the hight thing put it at the second adjustment where its not the highest on and not the lowest and for the thickness unless your traveling this shouldn't be a problem and even with that it is still smaller than TKl and full-sized so you got to love that. i think over all its a great keyboard but like he said if you come from low profile or a higher end keyboard (idk why u would degrade) its no the best but for new or starter this is a great keyboard

  • @fsfaith
    @fsfaith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm typing this with a K2 right now. I also have to RGB one and I got it on sale so I got it for cheap. Replaced the keycaps for some pudding keycaps to make the RGB look better.

  • @h4ppydr4gon
    @h4ppydr4gon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own the K2 and really enjoy it. I agree you should get a wrist rest if you aren't a floaty typist and yeah, the stabilised keys are a tad soft, but in general it is a great typing experience. I don't feel any wobble when typing, but I will certainly check when I am at my desk. I absolutely love the compact form factor without needing multible layers. But I wish it had PBT caps.

  • @desireco
    @desireco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have K6, it is similarily thick, no issues with it, I have issue with BT connectivity and others had with it

  • @danilocf15
    @danilocf15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2:19 What is this keyboard?

    • @Paperonie
      @Paperonie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Varmilo keyboard

  • @BrianHartman
    @BrianHartman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got the K2 v2, with the slightly angled keyboard. I find it comfortable enough to type on without a wristrest. I do have a wristrest for my K8, though.
    I've replaced the keycaps on my K2, and I do notice that the spacebar has an unpleasant rattle. I could probably use some foam to get rid of it, but I haven't had the keyboard that long and don't want to get into replacing stabilizers and such just yet. :)

  • @jGRite
    @jGRite 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't notice the Band-Aid at all until the end.
    Keychron is dangerous if that happened during the time you were preparing this review.
    Hopefully when I get the K6 it'll be without blood loss.
    I also mentioned this video in the survey they emailed when I "backed" their K6.

  • @user_nosleep00
    @user_nosleep00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yayayayay love the vids keep up the great work

  • @PutsOnLoafers
    @PutsOnLoafers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So far...
    NOTHING has beaten my full size Ducky One
    I mean this beast is a tank!
    If it wasnt for the wear of micro usb socket I'd say this keyboard would last forever on my desk

  • @idkusbuni
    @idkusbuni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thickness isn't an issue if you're not a gamer. You just need to float your wrists when you type.

  • @johnyle6906
    @johnyle6906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    tactile feedback that's not as pronounced as cherry mx browns..."tactile" haha
    this post was made by the Zealios V2 Gang

    • @frespects9624
      @frespects9624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Box royals gang, literally any switch with tactility gang

    • @szchietzmane6436
      @szchietzmane6436 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frespects9624 even i prefer the scratchy unlubed Outemu Sky than browns lmao

    • @treeleaf6471
      @treeleaf6471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Johny Le this post was made by White Alps gang >>>

    • @gagakserak3914
      @gagakserak3914 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mean callous gang?

  • @horseinthesky
    @horseinthesky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using K2 for about a half a year now. A really nice a high-quality keyboard but the issues Ibra is talking are here. Still a terrific option (maybe the best one) for wireless.
    I would like to hear about this custom Varmilo, please.

  • @q-techservice4475
    @q-techservice4475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Зенит в кадре порадовал)

  • @bigsmoke4627
    @bigsmoke4627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the sound of Gateron Brown switches, they sound very solid.

  • @arupclassic
    @arupclassic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What is that other keyboard you showed while comparing the thickness

    • @mattbeiswenger8465
      @mattbeiswenger8465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He says it in the video "Varmilo TKL"

    • @darandavis
      @darandavis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those don't look like stock Varmilo keycaps though. Anyone know which set those are?

  • @sehrishbalouch7068
    @sehrishbalouch7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe when you type, your hands should be hovering and fingers should do the work of typing. That is the proper typing posture and if you do that your wrists shouldn’t hurt

  • @mattpopovich
    @mattpopovich 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't even notice the band-aid until you pointed it out!

  • @jerry51311
    @jerry51311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:20 what's the name of this keyboard

    • @Dr.Bojangles
      @Dr.Bojangles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it's called Varmilo.

    • @jerry51311
      @jerry51311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bojan Peric Nice! thanks

  • @rossc7277
    @rossc7277 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think not too many people really know true ergonomics. You should type floating your arms, (like a pianist) , not having to press your wrist as it will supress blood flow in your wrist. Remember, we have veins in our wrist, the reason you are hurting yourself. Keyboard should be lowered, not in same level as the table, in such a way your elbow is in 90 degree position. You may need to replace your table to achieve that. I had mine custom made.

  • @micha9670
    @micha9670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your image quality is great!

  • @szchietzmane6436
    @szchietzmane6436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    > Cherry switches
    > Good switch
    Pick one, man

    • @kitzybombflak
      @kitzybombflak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Szchietz Mane him thinking that Cherry = quality is probably all in his head

    • @szchietzmane6436
      @szchietzmane6436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kitzybombflak most people do think like that and that's sad

    • @rynne7153
      @rynne7153 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone push this up!

    • @ArcticFox_27
      @ArcticFox_27 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@szchietzmane6436 that's cause they are high quality, if you think that only zealios and inks are good then you're delusional.

    • @szchietzmane6436
      @szchietzmane6436 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArcticFox_27 if scratchy and lack of choices are what u called high quality then sure mate

  • @ChitruShrestha
    @ChitruShrestha 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought it without wrist rest over a month ago. I hate how hurtful my wrist are now. I wish i would have found this review before it bought it. Thickness is surely a problem.

  • @BestindotechYT
    @BestindotechYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This keyboard is a good option for wireless mechanical keyboard for mac users. Probably not a good option for windows PC/Laptop user.

    • @jellyplayz687
      @jellyplayz687 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cedric Gall it’s designed specifically with mac in mind with mac function keys. It’s alright for windows, but the designers specifically made it for mac, with windows more as an afterthought

    • @ngydat
      @ngydat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jellyplayz687 From Keychron website (on the K2 product page) : "Every K2 keyboard comes with 3 specific keycaps for Mac and Windows, respectively"

    • @ngydat
      @ngydat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jellyplayz687 Also @3:48

    • @jellyplayz687
      @jellyplayz687 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dat Nguyen the keyboard comes, in the box, with the mac keys installed. It works with windows, but if mac keys are preinstalled, it’s pretty clear which one was the original intention and which one was the afterthought

    • @ngydat
      @ngydat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jellyplayz687 true but if you can swap out the key caps + the presence of the switch on the left side of the keyboard allowing you to switch from macos to windows and vice-versa, it can't be that bad to use on windows

  • @TimofejNenarokov
    @TimofejNenarokov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well you can change brightness of lighting especially, just like you do on any MacBook

  • @marksmod
    @marksmod 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:00 Protip: buy a piece of wood. It works and is considerably cheaper. And you can make it any size and shape you want with a hacksaw, sanding paper, varnish and some elbow grease. But a small piece of wood also works

  • @TheJasmine097
    @TheJasmine097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May I ask what keyboard is he comparing K2 to? I can't seem to understand the name of it?

  • @waynemichaels4518
    @waynemichaels4518 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking at this but ended up going with the anne pro 2... After watching this I think I made the right choice

  • @FredQuijada
    @FredQuijada 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a K4 (typing with it right now) and it's the best keyboard I've ever used.

  • @benbrown9305
    @benbrown9305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    apples and oranges to compare totally different switch types like that... also you're talking about the stabilizers on the enter key. feel like you guys should talk to a real keyboard person before you make these vids

    • @jlu
      @jlu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you talking about the Gateron and Cherry Browns? Cause I thought that was a good comparison. Personally I’d go to a store to confirm that, but it’s interesting nonetheless

    • @benbrown9305
      @benbrown9305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jlu it was the thing about how he didn't like the board bc it had brown switches rather than his other board that had cherry mx speeds. that's not a gripe about the board, it's about what switches he chose for the board. that happened at about 8:00. the stabilizer thing where he doesn't realize stabilizers make the keys sound different happens right after, around 8:10.

  • @strumbi217
    @strumbi217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have keychrone K2 V2. To me it feels really nice to type on(Gateron red). Also I love when keyboard is little bit high so to me that is a bonus. I like the RGB on it but it is not as bright as lets say razer keyboards. But I agreed that if someone goes and buys it not go with RGB because it really does not look nice if keyboard is not pure black or upper model with metal plate scinece it is not that big of difference
    .

  • @lordmoleiv
    @lordmoleiv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when I hear people complain about how "thick" a keyboard is. There are a ton of people complaining about the K8 not being thin enough. Why don't these people buy a low profile board? For Christ sake, Keychron makes one! This is why building a board is better anyways. Just spend the money and build a keyboard that YOU want. Also if you build it right and lube and mod everything like you should, your typing experience will be ten times better than any factory built board.

  • @l33yo_30
    @l33yo_30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel the reviewer is a novice within the mechanical hobby. But since he has a Varmilo "custom" keyboard I guess makes him qualified to review mechanical keyboards. Which is fine for people who aren't too familiar with mechanical keyboards. My problem with this review is the issue he points out how cherry switches are better switch than the gateron the board uses based on sound and feel. He points out the inconsistency of the sound as he is pressing keys that don't have stabs vs ones that do. First of all, the keycaps are of different sizes therefore it will give off a different sound inherently just by keycaps alone. Second, stabilized keys will also produce a different sound based on other parts moving ie. the stabilizers, this also goes for feel. Him also saying his cherry speed is quiet kind of loss credibility for me as cherry speeds are not a quiet switch. I seems to me that this reviewer only knows cherry as the be-all end-all switch manufacturer. Maybe it was the case 20-30 years ago but there are so many good switches out there made by other manufactures now that you can't recommend a keyboard just because it uses cherry switches or not. I used the G Skill keyboard he recommended over this one and it's a $50 keyboard but I wouldn't recommend it over one because it doesn't have wireless capability. Overall this review was a fail. Mainly because of the issue he points out to and the comparison of other keyboards which were conveniently cherry switched.

  • @yogurt2497
    @yogurt2497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe check out the new version. They solved most issues.

  • @cathayjason1208
    @cathayjason1208 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As long as you get used to this board, personally it only took me less than a day, its flawless and amazing to type on. Trust me, just type on it for a day, or a few days, and you wont need a wrist rest.

  • @TornacenseDeFuturo
    @TornacenseDeFuturo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks to youtube they raised the price :(

  • @heshamkisher6523
    @heshamkisher6523 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used the keyboard for just over a week without the palm rest (which I ordered at the same time as my keyboard) due to it being out of stock, so I'm on an eight week wait. I don't find its height to be problematic but I type for around 5 hours a day.

  • @zjenl
    @zjenl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:56

  • @frvrmax
    @frvrmax 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have same problems with K2, bought a palm wrist. BT connectivity is also not so reliable. Still a great device, really enjoy using every day for my work!
    P.S. Like for Зенит!!! 👍

  • @luisangel15
    @luisangel15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:07 name of this one?

  • @5fivezero0
    @5fivezero0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. Waded into the comments and thought you could make a video on the different switches?

  • @isaacsnowcarini4808
    @isaacsnowcarini4808 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful...
    Your voice is like butter!!!!