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Great vid- its ok to put a sense of blame on companies- making a good quality product is very important- its called integrity. Glad i found ya i enjoy your honesty.
The only thing that's changed is how much more confident you come across in this video as compared to the last one about the k2. The fact of the matter is if you want a board that checks all the boxes budget, rgb, wireless, hot swappable. I dont think there are many options out there, the keyboards you review on this are missing atleast one of those features so no the k2 is still the go to board for all the features at a cheap price..
@@pqdb7303 I got a cat instead. much more reliable and they at least push stuff off a desktop instead of spilling it on the keyboard. The worst part is my former g/f wouldn't even offer to replace it. saying, you have so many keyboards why do you need to replace that keyboard? completely oblivious to the value of that keyboard.
You're saying it like it's a bad thing that she tried to clean it with running water. Probably would've worked if you cleaned and dried it properly and didn't plug it in for another day or two.
@@RCmies Tried that. Didn't work. I put it in a drying box for a month after removing the keycaps and drying all the water I could reach. The motherboard itself was floating in the water. when she gave it to me? All she did after rinsing it was set it on the counter where it sat for two days till I got home from an off-site meeting. I can confirm the switches are working but they are soldered to the motherboard. I can trace power to the first chip but no voltage over the chip. I can't replace the chip since I lack the required equipment. I can replace the entire keeb for $69 so it's not worth spending hours de-soldering and testing the mainboard. then replacing chips and capacitors that have been shorted out. All its good for now is parts unless I get a replacement motherboard. Then I have to de-solder and resolder the switches.
I just ordered the K2v2 hotswap. It's pretty much the only affordable prebuilt 75% option that has an ISO option, therefore it is still by default the best option. May end up giving it the typical silicone case filling, switch lubing, stab swap treatment, may not. Was planning on going a bit more premium for my next keyboard, but my current one is rapidly deteriorating and i'm in acute need of a new one so i went the easy route and ordered the K2.
My exact issue as well. I've been heavily considering buying the KC84s and just learn the ANSI layout, however, I don't want to be forced to do that just to get a slightly better keyboard. I seriously don't understand how most keyboard manufacturers dont offer both ANSI and ISO layouts now that they often offer both 60%, 65%, TKL and so on. IMO it's a loss of a huge consumer group on their part and seriously annoying for us non-americans
Usually special keyboard software is only made for Windows, and that is completely uninteresting to me as I use Mac and Linux. I purchased the Keychron K2 *because* it doesn't require any special software, it's a great keyboard, I can configure it as I wish, and I don't need any custom junk software.
@@awwkaw9996 Yeah me too I use linux and most keyboard manufacturers dont support it even though linux is fully willing to support their produst. Its very frustrating
I got the RK84 looks great but they should've include keycaps for Mac users, I also don't care about software. Probably going to pic up the K2 like how it sounds nd like the black and white theme
Omg I just found your channel tonight as I was looking at the K2 v2, and I watched all 3 of your videos on the Keychron K2 (and K2 v2). I had no idea the lore went so deep. Thank you for the succinct reviews and the emotional rollercoaster. 10/10 would laugh and cry again.
I appreciate your honest update to your past recommendation and taking the time to reevaluate the product in an unbiased manner. All while being yourself and having fun. I love the outtakes too! Keep up the awesomeness!
I've had my eye on the RK84 for a while now. I just thought it seemed like the perfect place to start in the world of mechanical keyboards and customizing them. I might get it for myself as a graduation present this year... hmm...
PHEW! You can't imagine how happy you've made me. I just bought my first mechanical keyboard last week and I got me this Royal Kludge (after some crazy research). I love my RK keyboard and you made me love it even more. So happy I made the right choice!
best timing , i have looking for k2v2 from 2months and until now its out of stock and since then i have been waiting now i don't need to wait really really thank you ❤
For some reason I've been nervous about trying a 75% keyboard because it feels like it would be claustrophobic, but the RK84 being both cheap and moddable has me tempted
I’m by no means a keyboard enthusiast, however, I’m a programmer, so having a good keyboard is a must for me. I love mine so much that I’ve been recommending the K2 to anyone looking for a nice keyboard. I love its wireless connection and the general typing experience. Sound? I’ve heard the “sound tests” made by some reviewers, but honestly I don’t see myself choosing one keyboard (or switches) over the others just by how they sound. The K2 for me sounds... great... I guess... SW seems to be a good option to have, but for some general customizations I’m using autohotkey; it works great! My point is, this keyboard is awesome for those just looking for a great typing experience (without being nit-picky) and nothing more.
@@mocachino__ Damn I don't think I have ever, and I mean ever, used the right hand shift key... Like.. After reading your comment I legit had to look down to remember where the right shift key even is! Everyone uses their peripherals so differently and it's always interesting to hear about something like this. The numpad and arrow keys being well spaced are the important part for me!
i inherited my husband's old K2 (non-hotswappable) when he upgraded and it honestly got me into keyboard modding and custom mechanical keyboards! i have two other options that are hot-swappable and sound much nicer with more modding options and yet for some reason i still go back to my K2 for primary use. dunno why, i just love it
it's all fun and games when you're an ANSI user. Us ISO users, on the other hand, have to suck it up and use whatever is available. or conform to not having all of the needed keys and use ANSI keebs.
I appreciate the insight into what Keychron is doing! I actually picked up the Keychron C1 after seeing all it could do for such a low price. Swapped in some Kailh Box Pinks and I'm really enjoying it now!
In my opinion. The L80 and RK 84 sounded great. I've looked at stock sound test for the K2 and reviews. I really like it! It seems like a great keyboard for its price. I'm hoping to get the k2 soon. Thank you Switchyyyy
Channels like yours really make my day, my boss said all computer keyboards were the same, so I recommended him your channel, he was like: "ok... im wrong"
I bought the RK84 after my wife told me to calm down off the custom KB hype. As a first keyboard anyway. I'm very glad she did because I love the board. I ordered some Gazzew BobAgum silent linears to pair together. The board feels very premium for what it is. During your blind test, I figured the RK84 was either the first or second option due to the factory lubed stabs
I have been using my RK84 for a couple of months now, and despite the loss of the two USB type A ports on the board, I love using it. It's really bang for the buck.
I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a K2V2, then happened upon your video. I watched, I listened, I absorbed; and you know what? I heard the "blind sound tests" and #3 was clearly the one that resonated with me. Thanks for helping me move ever-closer to my decision.
4 > 2 > 1 > 3 on the sound. I love these custom keyboard options but the make or break it factor for me is if they have international layouts or not. Many only support US English unfortunately. Also extra key caps for Mac/PC modifier keys is a nice touch.
I have been hearing a lot of problematic stuff about Keychron on places like Reddit lately, so I was feeling worried about the K2 V2 that I bought some months ago as my first mech keyboard. However, I do appreciate what you said at the end about not blaming yourself if you got a K2 before. For me, the K2 V2 just feels nice, which is all I needed after years of hurting my fingers on laptop keys. And I'll stick to it until the day it gives out. Maybe then, the competition will give me something interesting to try. More power to you. Stay safe always.
I bought a K6 a few weeks ago and I really like it. I also have the RK71 and there is a big difference in how it feels and sounds. I prefer the Keychron. I also saw that many people had issues with their Keychrons but they seem to have sent new keebs to all of those people which gave me confidence when buying one. I'll do some mods to my K6 and really make it mine. if you also have one, don't stress, just because there are better keyboards out, it doesn't make your sh*t.
I personally prefer ISO layout and was able to get the K2 in a UK ISO format in stock whilst I was looking for a keyboard, that ended up being the final factor in making choice. Thankfully I’m yet to find an issue I couldn’t solve with a mod.
I may be dated, but I like the Filco Majestouch Ninja TKL a lot. The lettering facing towards the eyes instead of bird's eye view is icing on the cake.
well, I found a k2 with a nordic layout, and that is a must. Most "good" keyboards on the market don't offer this specific type of keycap. And getting a keycap set that fits a nordic 75% layout is easier said than done. Gonna have to schtick with my k2 I guess.
Personally, I won't be happy until keyboards in this price range ship with appropriate national layouts. If a keyboard has a 1000 kr/100 € price tag, there is no excuse to save a few cents on logistics by cramming 3 layouts into 1 big mess.
You guys should look at the Tecsee purple panda switch, for 70 it’s about $30 they have a POM stem and a PME housing, btw they are really good for the price, also they feel a little bit like Holy Pandas, just more budget.
What bothers me the most about Keychron is their keycaps are SO cheap. The paint starts to come off after a few months' usage. I REALLY LOVE the grey keycaps and the font that they use on them, they look super clean but it's a shame that they don't last long and I couldn't find any keycaps on that market which looks about the same.
I got my sister a Keychron for Christmas, and upon borrowing her keyboard a few weekends ago when working from her place, I noticed a small chip on the left shift key. I thought maybe she was rough with the keyboard or something, but it's nice to hear that at least the quality issue is something more widespread beyond her use.
But it's not cheap. It cost like 50usd to buy their stupid keycaps. I have a shitty 10usd keyboard that I used for many years and the keycaps still look brand new
what a great review, i will definitely be buying this for my grandmother, she has been diagnosed with alzheimer:(, but thankfully i can give her the present every day and she will be so happy all the time!
I have the K2 V2 and from your sound test I could guess right away which keyboard it was! I hear ya, but I still really love my keyboard. No problems at all with mine, so far. But all of this competition is good, regardless. I just like the fact that it's mac compatible without needing to mess around or fuss with it. Keep up the great content!
@@SwitchandClickOfficial btw. L80 was my favorite sounding. I use a glorious compact for work everyday though. I love it and the sound, might mod it soon
Welp, trend moves on. And people start using new stuff. If you want to follow trend, go on. It only gonna poke a hole in your wallet. Me? I'm pretty content with using Space65
I still ordered a K2 because it seemed more Mac ready. I know they both work on Mac and Windows, but the K2 had the key caps already in the box for MacOS.
just got the rk84 a week ago. amazing keyboard for the price. It is hot swappable and has a real good bluetooth connection. Happy to see it being recommended here.
I understand your points, I chose a Keychron K6 because as a french-canadian, I was searching for an ISO layout which is still pretty uncommon. A new PBT keycap set and I'm a happy camper but I'm pretty new to the game. I will surely become more critical with use.
I got the RK 84 this week, but I'm finding that the Bluetooth and wireless connections are unreliable. I'm getting a lot of missed key-presses and software sticky keys.
Please update if the new unit still got the same malfunction. I kinda want to pick up a new keyboard for on-the-go and rk84 is kinda cheap enough for my budget
Thank you so much for that video! I almost bought the k2 but watching your video made me change my mind and made me save some money too! Thanks for your content!
This is so bittersweet for me, since your channel is what first led me to Keychron. Bought the K2 and currently using the K8 (until I’m summoned by the GMMK Pro flex batch overlords). You’re right - they worked well but there’s better stuff on the market today!
THANKS FOR SAVING MY MONEY!! I almost had my mind set for the Keychron K2 V2 because it was the only 75% hotswap i knew, but now i know that theres another option with better stuff, now i have more money for better switches and keycaps, thank you veryyy much you really saved me a lot of money
I've got an RK84 and I'm a fan of it but when using wireless with the 2.4ghz it often misses double key presses which is a pretty big issue for a keyboard. I haven't had issues with Bluetooth or wired though. I've modded the hell out of my board so I can't really vouch for anything else about it stock
Thank you for making this video, I was really interested in getting the Keychron K6 as i saw it in your other videos, but after your mention about the RK84, i think I'll go with your recommendation!
And here I was considering getting a K8, since a Keyboard with both wireless and wired modes (to switch between my gaming rig and a laptop without having to unplug cables and stuff) would improve my QoL. The RK84 seems like a nice, probably better alternative (I prefer TKL but since the RK84 technically has the same keys, shouldn't be much of an issue), sad that it's only in white it seems, and other RK keyboards that are in black don't seem to be up to par.
Hm... well, it's not something I would insist on. But having the option of reprogramming everything about the keyboard, without it being dependent on the OS or drivers or installed software is a nice touch. There's always the option of a VM for the software, so that's not an issue in my opinion. I use a Win-VM for other such proprietary stuff as well. For example, I would really like to remap the screenshot key, it is too easy to touch it by mistake on the K3 and it's pretty annoying...
Did you test the RK84 2.4GHz connection for your self? It is really bad... But I also still think it is a better budget option then any Keychron board.
I'm currently looking around for a 75% and it's looking like K2 so far - the usb hub on RK84 is tempting, but they only offer the selection of basic red, blue or brown switches out of box, not to mention much blander looking keycaps.
seeing this video 2 hours after i've opened up my keychron k2! now I'm worried if made a bad choice. "worried-face" i think this was a really great video though! you guys seem to make better and better videos each week, and i love it!
So there's no way I can buy v1 on their official site 🤔also the hotswappble versions keycaps which are white see bad as compared to the one with grey keycaps,this company is good but their keyboards are so weird in terms of selecting which one to buy.
Based on sound, I like #4 for the space bar stabs, and #1 for the rest of the keys I would want to mod all of the options though: Neoprene, thicker keycaps, lubed+filmed switches, and clipped+greased stabs. With more and more companies offering pre lubed switches, and even pre modded stabs, I can image we will have some entry keyboards in the future that dont require any mods to out of the box.
I just bought my first proper prebuilt keyboard. Got a Gamakay TK68, a 2.4ghz wireless 65% with gateron yellows. About €90 shipped and I'm super excited!
Randomly stumbled across your channel today… (erm… “randomly” … I was googling for keyboards recently 😬) Anyway, very cool channel. Currently watching reviews and may even purchase soon. 😁
Yeah, me too. Arrived like a week ago :D :D Keychron didn't ship to my country so had to use forwarding service to get it - additional shipping costs. Then after receiving it found out that a local shop had just started selling them at MSRP a week after my purchase... :D So this video makes me think maybe I should sell it quickly and get the Royal Kludge instead?.. Hmmm.. :D
its still a good keyboard ... and it's also ported to qmk by a bunch of guys in the community so i don't find it so bad after modding it a little bit ... also it's a 80$ keyboard
I love your videos, I'm literally just stepping into the world of customizable mechanical keyboards. I mean I already have 3 mechanical kb's but they're from these bigger gaming manufacturers and I'm just not really feeling satisfied with their products. I feel that there is something missing, there has to be better stuff out there. So I'm doing my research but yeah it's a daunting world to get into lol. It was a lot easier to find better mice (ie. not Razer) but the KB world is a whole different animal. And like you said things are changing so fast, I feel like I just sat down in a roller coaster and things are going to get wild. But I want to be part of this ride so here I am. Let's go lol
@@SwitchandClickOfficial Quick question, I saw in another one of your videos that you used to play the MOBA Heroes of the Storm. I play an RTS called Age of Empires 2 and in terms of mechanics it's similar to a MOBA. I was just wondering what kind of keyboard do you recommend for MOBA/RTS type games? Personally what I'm looking for is a quiet linear keyboard that actuates very fast. Currently I have a low profile KB from Havit and while it's great, I just feel it is a bit too firm. The shorter key-travel is good but because the keys are firm it doesn't feel as fast as it could be. Also it has blue switches and the clicky-ness doesn't really add anything to the experience, if anything it's distracting. PS: I love your mouse, the MM710/711 is amazing. Mine stopped working so I got the MM720 which is even lighter but has a form factor that takes some getting used to.
Just got the K8 UK ISO, it went out of stock really fast... There is a demand for ISO variants, shame that everyone is so stuck on ANSI US layout for smaller form factors.
Hey Betty. I have given this a very, very long thought and have been researching non-stop. Thanks to your videos, I have decided that my first mechanical keyboard purchase is to be the Royal Kludge RK84. It is also the first time I will be going to a smaller form factor, from the full-size. I am enjoying it so far and with the amount of moldability this keyboard has, the possibilities are endless! Also I love your subtle humor and silent screaming in your videos xdd keep it up!
@@HyeonsikLi it’s been a year? Wow. So far it’s still going great. I’ve changed switches and keycaps and did the usual tape mod and foam mod. I still have the stock switches and keycaps. I highly recommend this keyboard even today
@@jorel3176 ah nice. I was thinking about getting a new one. I have a ducky which is not bad but for some reason i always have typos on it. Its really bothering me.
I've been using the K6 daily for a few months and my only complaint is that they decided it should have a dedicated backlight button but no delete key. I can only hope they someday release software to remap it. Other than that (and some chipped keycaps from carrying it around without a case) I've been happy with it.
You can remap keys in regedit. This means every keyboard you’d connect to that windows will have that key remapped, because you changed it in windows itself. Maybe this helps you if you use one system.
@@Ken_Jones As far as I can tell, the backlight key is not passed through to the computer. So no way to remap that specific key in software. Still using the keyboard almost daily. I've long since given up any hope of the promised software since it sounds like they're focusing on QMK with *some* of their newer boards and basically abandoning the rest. I'm disappointed but ultimately unsurprised.
Thank you for this video. I was looking for a 75% for my upcoming Mac and this tics all the boxes. Going to order this soon. Also your personality is awesome and your humor is 10/10. Thank you again!
daxa rebrand dari royal kludge, m84 dari rk84 dan m71 dari rk71. pantes ga ya dipuji "merek lokal kualitas internasional!" kalo cuma rebrand aja? the rexus daxa brand of keyboards are rebrands of royal kludge, m84 from rk84 and m71 from rk71. does it really deserve the praise "local brand with international quality!" if they're just rebrands?
did some research apparently daxa or Rexus Daxa m84 is only available in indonesia. tbh i would like them to expand their market, because i really interested in their product.
@@raxndau5905 yep, that’s what I found, too. It looks like it’s the newest revision of the RK84. It says it also features USB 3.0, mine only have USB 2.0 if I’m not wrong but I’ll test it later...
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Great vid- its ok to put a sense of blame on companies- making a good quality product is very important- its called integrity. Glad i found ya i enjoy your honesty.
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The only thing that's changed is how much more confident you come across in this video as compared to the last one about the k2. The fact of the matter is if you want a board that checks all the boxes budget, rgb, wireless, hot swappable. I dont think there are many options out there, the keyboards you review on this are missing atleast one of those features so no the k2 is still the go to board for all the features at a cheap price..
My girlfriend spilled a coke on my K2. She then washed it under running water. It is now a good doorstop.
Did you get a new girlfriend after that?
@@pqdb7303 I got a cat instead. much more reliable and they at least push stuff off a desktop instead of spilling it on the keyboard. The worst part is my former g/f wouldn't even offer to replace it. saying, you have so many keyboards why do you need to replace that keyboard? completely oblivious to the value of that keyboard.
You're saying it like it's a bad thing that she tried to clean it with running water. Probably would've worked if you cleaned and dried it properly and didn't plug it in for another day or two.
@@RCmies Tried that. Didn't work. I put it in a drying box for a month after removing the keycaps and drying all the water I could reach. The motherboard itself was floating in the water. when she gave it to me? All she did after rinsing it was set it on the counter where it sat for two days till I got home from an off-site meeting. I can confirm the switches are working but they are soldered to the motherboard. I can trace power to the first chip but no voltage over the chip. I can't replace the chip since I lack the required equipment. I can replace the entire keeb for $69 so it's not worth spending hours de-soldering and testing the mainboard. then replacing chips and capacitors that have been shorted out. All its good for now is parts unless I get a replacement motherboard. Then I have to de-solder and resolder the switches.
@@patrickwingert2018 wait youre not joking? Oh my god
Betty, I absolutely love where your channel is going. The editing and natural humor is such a huge win, well done.
Glad you like them!
351 likes and the only comment is the creator?
i mean its not insanely rare but its just a bit unusual
@@DeltaModelX what are you talking about? lol. It happens all the time.
i got my keychron k2 v2 for 7$ at a bin store soooooooo i’m very happy with it
What a DEAL
@@SwitchandClickOfficial what's your opinion on leopold fc750? I was actually able to get my hands on one, and I got it with clear switches for $120
Leopold is highly regarded and has very nice stabilizers
@@SwitchandClickOfficial i have a keychron K8 😎😎😎
I just ordered the K2v2 hotswap. It's pretty much the only affordable prebuilt 75% option that has an ISO option, therefore it is still by default the best option. May end up giving it the typical silicone case filling, switch lubing, stab swap treatment, may not. Was planning on going a bit more premium for my next keyboard, but my current one is rapidly deteriorating and i'm in acute need of a new one so i went the easy route and ordered the K2.
I was searching for my first keyboard and loved the 75% format, can I ask what ISO is?
@@kyoyeou5899 ISO is the keyboard layout most of the world uses as opposed to ANSI layout that's common in muricas.
Pretty much the only reason I ever went with Keychron in the first place was because they had Nordic layout keyboards
My exact issue as well. I've been heavily considering buying the KC84s and just learn the ANSI layout, however, I don't want to be forced to do that just to get a slightly better keyboard. I seriously don't understand how most keyboard manufacturers dont offer both ANSI and ISO layouts now that they often offer both 60%, 65%, TKL and so on. IMO it's a loss of a huge consumer group on their part and seriously annoying for us non-americans
@@rikke9278 Yeah right on. There ought to be more ISO
Usually special keyboard software is only made for Windows, and that is completely uninteresting to me as I use Mac and Linux. I purchased the Keychron K2 *because* it doesn't require any special software, it's a great keyboard, I can configure it as I wish, and I don't need any custom junk software.
Good point!
I agree completely, I see software as a *big* negative when deciding on a keyboard
@@awwkaw9996 Yeah me too I use linux and most keyboard manufacturers dont support it even though linux is fully willing to support their produst. Its very frustrating
@@deepakshivraj4881 yeah, I'm in the same boat.
I got the RK84 looks great but they should've include keycaps for Mac users, I also don't care about software. Probably going to pic up the K2 like how it sounds nd like the black and white theme
why do i feel like you have more smile in this video than any other video you made.
Last three videos were like that too
Omg I just found your channel tonight as I was looking at the K2 v2, and I watched all 3 of your videos on the Keychron K2 (and K2 v2). I had no idea the lore went so deep. Thank you for the succinct reviews and the emotional rollercoaster. 10/10 would laugh and cry again.
Is this keyboard theory now
I appreciate your honest update to your past recommendation and taking the time to reevaluate the product in an unbiased manner. All while being yourself and having fun. I love the outtakes too! Keep up the awesomeness!
I've had my eye on the RK84 for a while now. I just thought it seemed like the perfect place to start in the world of mechanical keyboards and customizing them. I might get it for myself as a graduation present this year... hmm...
I’m still using my K2 but I’m always happy when there’s competition! More choices for me when I want a new/replacement keyboard in the future!
True that. Competition is amazing
PHEW! You can't imagine how happy you've made me. I just bought my first mechanical keyboard last week and I got me this Royal Kludge (after some crazy research). I love my RK keyboard and you made me love it even more. So happy I made the right choice!
best timing , i have looking for k2v2 from 2months and until now its out of stock and since then i have been waiting
now i don't need to wait really really thank you ❤
wrong, i just bought a k2 and modded it silent black inks and lube, couldnt be happier, even without the mods the gateron reds were buttery smooth.
For some reason I've been nervous about trying a 75% keyboard because it feels like it would be claustrophobic, but the RK84 being both cheap and moddable has me tempted
It's worth af bro, got it and did foam mod and stabilizer mods. It's amazing
“It used to be a big thing in 2019”
Why am I feeling like a old grandpa hearing that.
Because 2020 lasted approximately 23 years. Especially March
@@jonathanphang worked just like Thanos' finger snap. All such coincidence.
I’m by no means a keyboard enthusiast, however, I’m a programmer, so having a good keyboard is a must for me. I love mine so much that I’ve been recommending the K2 to anyone looking for a nice keyboard. I love its wireless connection and the general typing experience. Sound? I’ve heard the “sound tests” made by some reviewers, but honestly I don’t see myself choosing one keyboard (or switches) over the others just by how they sound. The K2 for me sounds... great... I guess... SW seems to be a good option to have, but for some general customizations I’m using autohotkey; it works great!
My point is, this keyboard is awesome for those just looking for a great typing experience (without being nit-picky) and nothing more.
Do u have the brown ones
Also is the v1 better
sounds like exactly what i needed to hear! thanks. Also, as a non-keyboard enthusiast is hot swap still better?
I'm a dev, can confirm. Got the v2 (brown switch) and my only issue coming from 100% is getting used to the short right shift key.
@@mocachino__ Damn I don't think I have ever, and I mean ever, used the right hand shift key... Like.. After reading your comment I legit had to look down to remember where the right shift key even is! Everyone uses their peripherals so differently and it's always interesting to hear about something like this. The numpad and arrow keys being well spaced are the important part for me!
i inherited my husband's old K2 (non-hotswappable) when he upgraded and it honestly got me into keyboard modding and custom mechanical keyboards! i have two other options that are hot-swappable and sound much nicer with more modding options and yet for some reason i still go back to my K2 for primary use. dunno why, i just love it
it's all fun and games when you're an ANSI user.
Us ISO users, on the other hand, have to suck it up and use whatever is available. or conform to not having all of the needed keys and use ANSI keebs.
Betty is legit the only keyboard youtuber I enjoy. Her videos are the best. Her demeanour is perfect. Keep up the great work
Thanks dude
I appreciate the insight into what Keychron is doing! I actually picked up the Keychron C1 after seeing all it could do for such a low price. Swapped in some Kailh Box Pinks and I'm really enjoying it now!
In my opinion. The L80 and RK 84 sounded great. I've looked at stock sound test for the K2 and reviews. I really like it! It seems like a great keyboard for its price. I'm hoping to get the k2 soon. Thank you Switchyyyy
I literally just bought one today, and then got recommended this video. It's still a good buy, right?
Channels like yours really make my day, my boss said all computer keyboards were the same, so I recommended him your channel, he was like: "ok... im wrong"
It’s nice to hear you have a good laugh in the video :)
I bought the RK84 after my wife told me to calm down off the custom KB hype. As a first keyboard anyway. I'm very glad she did because I love the board. I ordered some Gazzew BobAgum silent linears to pair together. The board feels very premium for what it is.
During your blind test, I figured the RK84 was either the first or second option due to the factory lubed stabs
hopefully this video will spread more awareness to consumers and ultimately bring down the prices of Keychron :P
I just got the K4 v2 and I am completely in love! This thing is freaking amazing!!!!
Me too! And I am looking at the new K7 on Kickstarter 😂
I have been using my RK84 for a couple of months now, and despite the loss of the two USB type A ports on the board, I love using it. It's really bang for the buck.
how you lose the 2 usb? cable + 2.4ghz?
I'm this close to pulling the trigger on a K2V2, then happened upon your video. I watched, I listened, I absorbed; and you know what? I heard the "blind sound tests" and #3 was clearly the one that resonated with me. Thanks for helping me move ever-closer to my decision.
I'm so glad the RK84 is getting the recognition it deserves.
i heard the wireless is terrible tho, like spotty at 1-2 feet terrible
@@alexanderle3936 I don't use the wireless, however I have seen some reviews on amazon saying that as well. I'll have to test it out.
@@alexanderle3936 I believe it's only the dongle. Bluetooth works fine as, well, any other bluetooth
@@alexanderle3936 i have one. it's 1ft terrible in my case.
4 > 2 > 1 > 3 on the sound. I love these custom keyboard options but the make or break it factor for me is if they have international layouts or not. Many only support US English unfortunately. Also extra key caps for Mac/PC modifier keys is a nice touch.
I have been hearing a lot of problematic stuff about Keychron on places like Reddit lately, so I was feeling worried about the K2 V2 that I bought some months ago as my first mech keyboard.
However, I do appreciate what you said at the end about not blaming yourself if you got a K2 before.
For me, the K2 V2 just feels nice, which is all I needed after years of hurting my fingers on laptop keys. And I'll stick to it until the day it gives out. Maybe then, the competition will give me something interesting to try.
More power to you. Stay safe always.
Thanks Betty .. was sitting on the fence ..Keychron it Royal Kludge .. this video pushed me towards RK84 ..
I bought a K6 a few weeks ago and I really like it. I also have the RK71 and there is a big difference in how it feels and sounds. I prefer the Keychron. I also saw that many people had issues with their Keychrons but they seem to have sent new keebs to all of those people which gave me confidence when buying one.
I'll do some mods to my K6 and really make it mine. if you also have one, don't stress, just because there are better keyboards out, it doesn't make your sh*t.
Just bought the RK84 as my first mechanical keyboard! Thank you.
Are you going to put out a full review of the RK84? Would love to see it!
Honestly the 75% design will always be my favorite, I'll have to give this keyboard a try.
I personally prefer ISO layout and was able to get the K2 in a UK ISO format in stock whilst I was looking for a keyboard, that ended up being the final factor in making choice. Thankfully I’m yet to find an issue I couldn’t solve with a mod.
That`s the point. I like large enter button too.
I may be dated, but I like the Filco Majestouch Ninja TKL a lot. The lettering facing towards the eyes instead of bird's eye view is icing on the cake.
Does anyone else get the vibe that she is the sweetest person ever, you give off great energy!
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well, I found a k2 with a nordic layout, and that is a must. Most "good" keyboards on the market don't offer this specific type of keycap. And getting a keycap set that fits a nordic 75% layout is easier said than done. Gonna have to schtick with my k2 I guess.
This is it, is very hard to to find good Nordic Layout.
My reasoning as well.
I’m looking for custom key caps for my K2 any suggestions?
Personally, I won't be happy until keyboards in this price range ship with appropriate national layouts. If a keyboard has a 1000 kr/100 € price tag, there is no excuse to save a few cents on logistics by cramming 3 layouts into 1 big mess.
@@justsomeguy5103 well yes i agree but cant you just chsnge the caps
Betty! I just bought the RK84. Thanks!
You guys should look at the Tecsee purple panda switch, for 70 it’s about $30 they have a POM stem and a PME housing, btw they are really good for the price, also they feel a little bit like Holy Pandas, just more budget.
I saw your Keychron V2 K2 review and watched this. You've improvde so much in a short amount of time. 😊
What bothers me the most about Keychron is their keycaps are SO cheap. The paint starts to come off after a few months' usage. I REALLY LOVE the grey keycaps and the font that they use on them, they look super clean but it's a shame that they don't last long and I couldn't find any keycaps on that market which looks about the same.
Keychron sells PBT keycaps now for a fair price.
I got my sister a Keychron for Christmas, and upon borrowing her keyboard a few weekends ago when working from her place, I noticed a small chip on the left shift key. I thought maybe she was rough with the keyboard or something, but it's nice to hear that at least the quality issue is something more widespread beyond her use.
q1
But it's not cheap. It cost like 50usd to buy their stupid keycaps. I have a shitty 10usd keyboard that I used for many years and the keycaps still look brand new
what a great review, i will definitely be buying this for my grandmother, she has been diagnosed with alzheimer:(, but thankfully i can give her the present every day and she will be so happy all the time!
I have the K2 V2 and from your sound test I could guess right away which keyboard it was!
I hear ya, but I still really love my keyboard. No problems at all with mine, so far. But all of this competition is good, regardless. I just like the fact that it's mac compatible without needing to mess around or fuss with it.
Keep up the great content!
I've just recently gotten into this space and your direct and honest approach is very welcoming. Great video, keep it up!
Awesome, thank you!
@@SwitchandClickOfficial btw. L80 was my favorite sounding. I use a glorious compact for work everyday though. I love it and the sound, might mod it soon
Huh, it makes zero sense to me how the look of a keyboard can be outdated in a matter of months. Damn.
Welp, trend moves on. And people start using new stuff.
If you want to follow trend, go on. It only gonna poke a hole in your wallet. Me? I'm pretty content with using Space65
OMG I WAS subscriber when you're channel was I think below 20k AND OMG I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!
I still ordered a K2 because it seemed more Mac ready. I know they both work on Mac and Windows, but the K2 had the key caps already in the box for MacOS.
just got the rk84 a week ago. amazing keyboard for the price. It is hot swappable and has a real good bluetooth connection. Happy to see it being recommended here.
Wow the editing on this one is really cool!
So glad to hear it!
Thank you S&W!!! This video was perfect!
Glad you liked it!
I understand your points, I chose a Keychron K6 because as a french-canadian, I was searching for an ISO layout which is still pretty uncommon. A new PBT keycap set and I'm a happy camper but I'm pretty new to the game. I will surely become more critical with use.
I appreciate the honesty, and I am so glad to have caught this video before I went with Keychron.
Thank You!
I got the RK 84 this week, but I'm finding that the Bluetooth and wireless connections are unreliable. I'm getting a lot of missed key-presses and software sticky keys.
Update: I have returned the unit, but will be purchasing another one. I'm pretty I just got a bad one.. Hopefully this 2nd one will work fine!
Please update if the new unit still got the same malfunction. I kinda want to pick up a new keyboard for on-the-go and rk84 is kinda cheap enough for my budget
@@benjaminbong please, let us know how it went.
@@frds_skce Did you bought it?
Thank you so much for that video! I almost bought the k2 but watching your video made me change my mind and made me save some money too!
Thanks for your content!
ahh you're welcome!
While Keychron is maybe lagging behind in certain aspects. They dominate one often overlooked. ISO layouts.
Thank God for companies who make ISO keyboards.
This is so bittersweet for me, since your channel is what first led me to Keychron. Bought the K2 and currently using the K8 (until I’m summoned by the GMMK Pro flex batch overlords). You’re right - they worked well but there’s better stuff on the market today!
Nothing wrong with owning some keychron boards, I have no many.
The L80 sounded the best IMO. Which switches were being used in that test?
Damn, just found this channel its one of the best channels Ive found for this topic. Your pace is perfect and your editing keeps it interesting.
Tysm
lmao I probably watch way too many of these videos since I got every keyboard right in the blind test
The pack of features included in the RK 84 (especially the floating keycap designe included) just blew me away i think i'm gonna buy that one.
I liked the #4, the L80, time to look up what keyboard that is.
Same
some days ago i've bought its "cousin" the A80, my first mechanial keyboard! I hope that it is a good keyboard
The quality of your videos have improved so much, so quickly!
THANKS FOR SAVING MY MONEY!! I almost had my mind set for the Keychron K2 V2 because it was the only 75% hotswap i knew, but now i know that theres another option with better stuff, now i have more money for better switches and keycaps, thank you veryyy much you really saved me a lot of money
that's awesome!
ngl , lowkey getting anxious as I bought a keychron a couple weeks back.
Don't be. It's pretty good
Your channel keeps gets better and better I love seeing the progress.
I've got an RK84 and I'm a fan of it but when using wireless with the 2.4ghz it often misses double key presses which is a pretty big issue for a keyboard. I haven't had issues with Bluetooth or wired though. I've modded the hell out of my board so I can't really vouch for anything else about it stock
Thank you for making this video, I was really interested in getting the Keychron K6 as i saw it in your other videos, but after your mention about the RK84, i think I'll go with your recommendation!
And here I was considering getting a K8, since a Keyboard with both wireless and wired modes (to switch between my gaming rig and a laptop without having to unplug cables and stuff) would improve my QoL. The RK84 seems like a nice, probably better alternative (I prefer TKL but since the RK84 technically has the same keys, shouldn't be much of an issue), sad that it's only in white it seems, and other RK keyboards that are in black don't seem to be up to par.
It's not, Keychron is far superior
I think I am going to try the RK84 as a small mod project! Thanks for the content.
Do itttt
I honestly wager the "no-software" as a big plus! I really don't need a software for my keyboard and atleast with this I have total Linux support.
Hm... well, it's not something I would insist on. But having the option of reprogramming everything about the keyboard, without it being dependent on the OS or drivers or installed software is a nice touch. There's always the option of a VM for the software, so that's not an issue in my opinion. I use a Win-VM for other such proprietary stuff as well. For example, I would really like to remap the screenshot key, it is too easy to touch it by mistake on the K3 and it's pretty annoying...
#2 - was genuinely surprised that it’s the RK84! Great video and recommend!
Did you test the RK84 2.4GHz connection for your self?
It is really bad...
But I also still think it is a better budget option then any Keychron board.
I ordered the RK84 without this video’s recommendation. Thank you for making this video though, it helps me validate my choice :)
Glad it was helpful!
I'm currently looking around for a 75% and it's looking like K2 so far - the usb hub on RK84 is tempting, but they only offer the selection of basic red, blue or brown switches out of box, not to mention much blander looking keycaps.
seeing this video 2 hours after i've opened up my keychron k2! now I'm worried if made a bad choice. "worried-face"
i think this was a really great video though! you guys seem to make better and better videos each week, and i love it!
Don't worry at all. Keychron is good, but just are getting expensive and not changing much
@@SwitchandClickOfficial thank you !
Me watching this after buying a k2😭
Me too... but I think it's good too
Return it.
Keychron are still plenty good. They have alot of plate ping, but they're super good with foam modding, and the customer service is good.
No need to worry, you still got one of the best pre-built 75% out there...
@@busybird7149 you shouldnt have to mod your keyboard to not have it sound like a coca cola can
Love listening to you. You are so animated and well spoken. 👍
Oh thank you!
So there's no way I can buy v1 on their official site 🤔also the hotswappble versions keycaps which are white see bad as compared to the one with grey keycaps,this company is good but their keyboards are so weird in terms of selecting which one to buy.
Huh! I just ordered the RK84 yesterday on a whim. Glad to see you are liking it.
Based on sound, I like #4 for the space bar stabs, and #1 for the rest of the keys
I would want to mod all of the options though: Neoprene, thicker keycaps, lubed+filmed switches, and clipped+greased stabs.
With more and more companies offering pre lubed switches, and even pre modded stabs, I can image we will have some entry keyboards in the future that dont require any mods to out of the box.
I just bought my first proper prebuilt keyboard. Got a Gamakay TK68, a 2.4ghz wireless 65% with gateron yellows. About €90 shipped and I'm super excited!
Randomly stumbled across your channel today… (erm… “randomly” … I was googling for keyboards recently 😬)
Anyway, very cool channel. Currently watching reviews and may even purchase soon.
😁
Great video! Seems like you had a great time making this!
Very fun
oh man. I literally just bought this a month ago 😅
I just bought Keychron K2 last week... RIP
Yeah, me too. Arrived like a week ago :D :D Keychron didn't ship to my country so had to use forwarding service to get it - additional shipping costs. Then after receiving it found out that a local shop had just started selling them at MSRP a week after my purchase... :D So this video makes me think maybe I should sell it quickly and get the Royal Kludge instead?.. Hmmm.. :D
Same. Just bought it 2 weeks ago 😐
Literally received it two days ago and I think it’s great,
its still a good keyboard ... and it's also ported to qmk by a bunch of guys in the community so i don't find it so bad after modding it a little bit ... also it's a 80$ keyboard
each video i notice some type of improvement, keep up the good work
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I love your videos, I'm literally just stepping into the world of customizable mechanical keyboards. I mean I already have 3 mechanical kb's but they're from these bigger gaming manufacturers and I'm just not really feeling satisfied with their products. I feel that there is something missing, there has to be better stuff out there. So I'm doing my research but yeah it's a daunting world to get into lol. It was a lot easier to find better mice (ie. not Razer) but the KB world is a whole different animal.
And like you said things are changing so fast, I feel like I just sat down in a roller coaster and things are going to get wild. But I want to be part of this ride so here I am. Let's go lol
Thank you so much! I appreciate that.
@@SwitchandClickOfficial Quick question, I saw in another one of your videos that you used to play the MOBA Heroes of the Storm. I play an RTS called Age of Empires 2 and in terms of mechanics it's similar to a MOBA. I was just wondering what kind of keyboard do you recommend for MOBA/RTS type games?
Personally what I'm looking for is a quiet linear keyboard that actuates very fast. Currently I have a low profile KB from Havit and while it's great, I just feel it is a bit too firm. The shorter key-travel is good but because the keys are firm it doesn't feel as fast as it could be. Also it has blue switches and the clicky-ness doesn't really add anything to the experience, if anything it's distracting.
PS: I love your mouse, the MM710/711 is amazing. Mine stopped working so I got the MM720 which is even lighter but has a form factor that takes some getting used to.
@@TheChimples Get ignored son
just stumbled upon your channel! love your work, great videos, we keyboard warriors are loving these
The main problem I find is finding these keyboards in UK ISO layout 😭
Crying in FR ISO other here too....
Just got the K8 UK ISO, it went out of stock really fast... There is a demand for ISO variants, shame that everyone is so stuck on ANSI US layout for smaller form factors.
Don't make me talk about SP ISO.
Yeah, really looking for one with the L shaped return key.
You are the reason I get RK, thank you 🙏🏽
Hey Betty. I have given this a very, very long thought and have been researching non-stop. Thanks to your videos, I have decided that my first mechanical keyboard purchase is to be the Royal Kludge RK84. It is also the first time I will be going to a smaller form factor, from the full-size. I am enjoying it so far and with the amount of moldability this keyboard has, the possibilities are endless!
Also I love your subtle humor and silent screaming in your videos xdd keep it up!
Is it good?
@@HyeonsikLi it’s been a year? Wow. So far it’s still going great. I’ve changed switches and keycaps and did the usual tape mod and foam mod. I still have the stock switches and keycaps. I highly recommend this keyboard even today
@@jorel3176 ah nice. I was thinking about getting a new one. I have a ducky which is not bad but for some reason i always have typos on it. Its really bothering me.
bruh no lie i found this channel like 2 days ago and its helped a lot i love this channel
You're welcome
Out of 4, the third one sounded the best. Turns out it was the K2V2.
I have one of these keyboards and love it. I have no desire to go back to a big keyboard. Don't rubbish it, it is the best......
I've been using the K6 daily for a few months and my only complaint is that they decided it should have a dedicated backlight button but no delete key. I can only hope they someday release software to remap it.
Other than that (and some chipped keycaps from carrying it around without a case) I've been happy with it.
You can remap keys in regedit. This means every keyboard you’d connect to that windows will have that key remapped, because you changed it in windows itself. Maybe this helps you if you use one system.
@@Ken_Jones As far as I can tell, the backlight key is not passed through to the computer. So no way to remap that specific key in software.
Still using the keyboard almost daily. I've long since given up any hope of the promised software since it sounds like they're focusing on QMK with *some* of their newer boards and basically abandoning the rest. I'm disappointed but ultimately unsurprised.
Thank you for this video. I was looking for a 75% for my upcoming Mac and this tics all the boxes. Going to order this soon. Also your personality is awesome and your humor is 10/10. Thank you again!
"it also has 2 USB dongle on the top, this is never been seen in keyboard that are really this small"
me: laugh in DAXA M84
That DAXA thing is exactly the same as RK84 but not really available
daxa rebrand dari royal kludge, m84 dari rk84 dan m71 dari rk71.
pantes ga ya dipuji "merek lokal kualitas internasional!" kalo cuma rebrand aja?
the rexus daxa brand of keyboards are rebrands of royal kludge, m84 from rk84 and m71 from rk71.
does it really deserve the praise "local brand with international quality!" if they're just rebrands?
did some research
apparently daxa or Rexus Daxa m84 is only available in indonesia.
tbh i would like them to expand their market, because i really interested in their product.
@@raxndau5905 yep, that’s what I found, too. It looks like it’s the newest revision of the RK84. It says it also features USB 3.0, mine only have USB 2.0 if I’m not wrong but I’ll test it later...
@@twph.5890 Im from Indonesia and use M84. It is just RK84 with USB 3 but disabled the 2.4ghz feature. But the price are so legit here
Great that there is a sound test, the sound of the keyboard is very important to me