In this video I talk about receiving unsolicited suggestions from loved ones and doctors while in psych med withdrawal, as well as how to cope with it.
Whenever a family member tells me to “calm down”, even though I’ve explained them the symptoms 20 times, I almost burst into tears… You are my family, please listen :( My brother gets it, my wife also, to a degree, that’s it.
Matt, reminding us that we are suffering from a central nervous system injury is vitally important. I can easily forget and get lost in self-loathing. Recognizing that truth is an immediate mood changer for me. Thank you so much
Thanks mate you are amazing 🙏🏻 I’m 5 years PAWS next week 23rd of July. I’m still healing however I continue to heal and get better every year. I look back at my journey and can’t believe I was strong enough to hold on for the ride. I was so angry for years and especially after my investigation into 14 Doctors. Love and peace from Perth West Australia 🇦🇺 ❤️✌🏻🙏🏻
@@Heymattmarin thanks mate ✌🏻 Yeah it’s been a learning journey. I’ve uncovered many problems within the system and helped many family members go through their own health issues. For example, I was able to identify my mums statin induced muscle myopathy when many other doctors couldn’t. I literally saved my mums life and now she’s doing amazing 🙏🏻 I also didn’t enter the experiment in fear of myocarditis and all the other health issues that came from the “you know what”. At the time my heart Palpitations were so bad I couldn’t sleep on my left side. Anyway I guess what I’m saying is, from my major health issues I’ve become more conscious and willing to educate myself. Thanks for everything you’re doing mate ❤️✌🏻
Matt your sense of humour and unbridled authenticity is amazing. Despite your troubles. Of all the TH-cam commentators on all this you are the most real! (I also think Dan philosophical phishing is a close second). You are so good at telling it how it is. Much love ❤
Also your potential for real advocacy and cutting through bullsh**! The shot glass analogy is bloomin’ brilliant. I’d love you to accompany me on my next GP visit. 😂
Matt, you are AWESOME! Thank you for doing what you're doing! Very much appreciated indeed! ❤ I took Xanax for 23 years, in 2020 I learned about big pharma so decided I needed off these meds... most of us don't have a clue what we are in for since docs decided not to inform people. Maddening indeed! Been tappering since April 2021, haven't had any since 10-22. I am almost 69 years young! It's been the hardest thing I have ever done!
After 10 hours of severe palpitations and headache I find myself tearful with validation. Thank you for sharing your journey and experiences, it helps a lot (33f, 21 meds over 14 years continuous use, 3 week taper by a dr April 2022, med free and WD month 16.)
@@mitch5222 headaches, scalp, neck and shoulder pain, pain at base of skull, sensory issues, temperature regulation issues, nausea, digestive issues, weight loss, loss of appetite/disgust towards food, insomnia, TMJ, palpitations, tremors, weakness, dizziness, brain fog, delay in responding/speaking, derealisation, forgetfulness, irritability, fatigue, bruising more easily, hypersensitivity to chemicals/smells/dehydration/low blood sugar, eczema (never had before), sore eyes and sensitive to sunlight, runny nose, muscle aches and zaps. There are probably more. First 10 months symptoms were unrelenting, since then small sporadic windows and changes in frequency of each symptoms hour on hour, day on day or week on week. I still class myself as debilitated by this and completely reliant on support. I am in a figurative hell but remain determined and hopeful for my recovery.. Are you experiencing anything similar?
@@Heymattmarin I have been able to watch more of your story and feel compelled to add: Wow Matt, what a journey you have endured, survived and continue to overcome. Not only that, using your experience to educate and validate others too. I can relate to a surprising amount of your journey, what hope you offer me. I am so sorry for what you’ve experienced, Matt. Hope and healing CS
Hello Matt! I’m on 20th month of akathisia and I’ve hit a bit of a gully. Your videos are so inspiring. I compare things year to year, I just pray 2024 will be better than 2023.
Your light shines so brightly, Matt! It's such a pleasure to watch your videos! I really shows that this experience has given you a great depth of understanding and spiritual maturity. I believe some of us choose these challenging paths before coming here so we can make a big jump in our soul evolution by going into the dark and holding on to our inner light. Even in pitch blackness and even if everybody around us is calling us crazy. No one will ever be able to take this strength and clarity from you again. Blessings.
love this so much! thank you for your brutal honesty and for being so genuine with us. as we all know, it’s a rocky and uncertain journey, but as you say; there’s always light within the journey and (most importantly) at the end of it. one thing we can take from our journey is such a deep sense of gratitude, a wealth of intellect and experience, and a greater love and appreciation for the people who helped us through it. i’ve been very lucky for the relatively stable and successful experience i’ve had with withdrawal, but people like you have still helped so much with understanding everything and gaining more knowledge on this subject. again, thank you!
Omg I love you! That's what I'm told on the groups, practice your breathing techniques. I'm fucking breathing. My nervous system is gone, it's gone, and all I can do is want to jump out of my skin, my body. Definitely missing a few cards.
Hi Matt, I am writing just to ask you how you are doing as it's been a while since your last video! I really appreciate the wise, courageous and beautiful person you are! I watched all your videos and the gave hope, strength and courage to keep going with my own withdrawals.. I really hope your health is getting better and that if you're not on TH-cam it's just because you are busy living your own life ❤ love from France !
Hey, Matt. It's AK from NJ. Love you Matt! You are one of the most awesome people I know. You have a heart as big as the distance from where you are in LA to where I am in NJ! ❤️❤️❤️ Keep up the amazing work. You are saving lives! Sending you a big hug all the way from the other side of the country and sending a big hug to each and every one of you that is experiencing or that has experienced chemical injury. The power of love cannot be underestimated. It is literally first aid for this injury. It's all about love, healing and light as Matt talks about all the time. The power of goodness will vanquish all darkness and evil. Virtue will undoubtedly prevail. We must all remain strong. We are all so so strong. Anyone that's been through this hell or is going through this torture is as strong as iron! It takes super human strength to prevail and if you are watching Matt's videos and are reading the comments you are alive, so keep going. We must continue on. We'll get through this! As Matt says, "The only way out is through" and we will get through this together. Let's all remain strong and we will see the greatest good for each other and for the world at large. It is the most beautiful thing that we are here supporting each other. The power of standing together and supporting each other is so great it will heal the world. G-d is with us. Love you all! ❤️❤️❤️
This was so beautiful to read ❤️ love you, my friend! We all can and will get through this together. And it’ll likely be the hardest thing we ever have to do. But we’ll be the strongest versions of ourselves for it.
By the way I get everything that you are saying, I know it's hard to really convey in words and emotion what it is really like to go through this, I really appreciate you trying your best to do that
The invalidation and advice has had me in a rage. One of the reasons I’ve had to completely isolate, my cns can’t tolerate another human yet I’m so so lonely. No one is safe to me Thanks Matt
I know the feeling. This journey can be incredibly isolating in a very unique way. But in this community we have each other! And we all know what happened to us. You can do this ❤️
Yes, it is awful that no one innerstands us... what got me through was knowing and FEELING that I WILL HEAL! Please let the rage go, you'll feel much better. ❤
Please know that while many people, perhaps even most, don’t understand, there ARE people who will accept you as you are, believe you, and support you in your journey.
You're an angel 😇 Matt and will become more and more an important voice in this travesty of medical malfeasance impacting 20 percent of the population directly and 100 percent indirectly. You're beautiful inside and out.
Your voice is important. The more people like yourself that share, the better it will be for all people who experience these injuries. Thank you so much for sharing. It means a lot to all of us out there who have experienced this. Whether it was for a month or for years.
Matt Marin !! Thanks so much for your kindness. It’s really appreciated. I’m 69 lady going through this. 29 months. I’ve had it pretty bad. Aka. Dp/dr muscle twitches have lessened but still not there yet. Weird tight muscle feeling in my rib cage, like pressure. Heard about this. Hope it will leave. Anyway your a diamond in this rough road. Wish you the best in Kauai I love it there. Aloha. Paula in San Diego
Thank you so much, Paula. I’m so sorry you’re in it too. I hold onto the windows and success stories constantly, and so many have gone through what you and I have and live happy lives now. We can do this, keep going ❤️ and I’m here if you ever need support
Im dying. I cant dont this anymore. I want to go back on the drugs to stabilize this horrific feelings but I also know what that means. It is so extremely difficult to remember positive things when each attack is back to back and in each one it feels new or worse and the agony
You are in the worst of it right now. It will not always be this intense and someday it will be all the way better. You can do this. Please keep going ❤️
I've had a lot of experience with meditation. I had a bout of Akathisia that lasted two months. One night I willed myself to sit down and after struggling for about 30 minutes, I was able to meditate and sit in the same chair for two hours. I went to bed thinking maybe I had put an end to the madness, but the next morning I woke up and the pacing started all over again. I was never able to get back to that calm state, no matter how I tried to get back there. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I’m sorry. I find that those types of healing modalities can transform a lot of things, but they don’t seem to touch neurological injuries like this. It’s not fair. But this does heal with time. Keep going ❤️
19 months ago I took citoplram for mild anxiety & the next day I had an adverse reaction. Which was akathisia etc. I’m still not healed & I just recently had to take an antibiotic which charged my symptoms up. Im sensitive to literally everything. If you know anyone who has healed after a setback or can relate please comment below. These drugs are terrible I wish I never took them. Thank you so much for making these videos & try to spread the word! I’m the same age as you, I will be subscribing 😊
Thanks for the video Matt! 2 things - 1. You offered to support folks with akathisia a while back if they needed it. Can you reach out to me please? 2. Can you do a video on breathing issues from benzo withdrawal and how you dealt with that? My experience caused me to reinstate bc i couldn't get a breath in well enough to even fall asleep for a minute. In other words, i wasn't falling asleep and waking up the rest of the night. I wasnt able to fall asleep period because of how badly i couldn't get a deep breath enough to relax my body and fall asleep. After a week of literally zero sleep. I reinstated. Now im going to taper off soon.
I’m so sorry about what you’ve experienced, and I honor you doing what you have to do for yourself in your recovery process. I do offer coaching/support calls, and you can find my contact info on my website www.othersidehypno.com
Thanks Matt for your words of wisdom and encouragement. I want to start therapy but I never know how I will feel the day of. After 17 months I’ve had to cancel one after another appointment. I may only have 1-2 hrs a day I can function. Is it too soon? Your helping me so very much. Keep going. ❤
I’m sorry you’re in it too. Keep going, it will get easier and easier until it’s gone. A lot of people, myself included, find it unhelpful and premature to start therapy at certain phases of this injury. I think there’s a time for it, and if it’s too soon, it’s too soon. Sending you a lot of love.
Just started my weening process off Zoloft and Wellbutrin. I quit caffeine in preparation and I think that really helped. I know it’s a long hard journey in front of me. I’ve gotten through heroin addiction but this seems scarier because I don’t know what to expect. Also I am not telling anyone I’m doing this because I know everyone will just tell me to stay on them, kicking heroin I had a lot of support and encouragement.
I dealt with opiate withdrawls and methadone to taper slow and it took years back in the day and got off them...I never imagine in this lifetime i am dealt yet again drug withdrawals on 225 mg venlafaxine and my doc drop me as a patient left me a yr prescription, im taking one tiny bead out but i need my weed to actually get functioning within my body plus dealing with maybe endometriosos, adenomyosis and fibromyalgia. its more torture and suffering added on top more n more ... its sooo fucking heartbreaking ans soul wrenching
You are not alone. Been through the ringer myself with these. I was diagnosed with a vestibular disorder bc of this lexapeo and Xanax poison. Did you have a vestibular disorder? It’s called PPPD. It’s a neurological disorder but I know in my mind it’s from these meds. Unbalanced and have this rocking sensation in my head when I’m sitting
Hey Matt, I can so relate to the trigger word " Just Breathe"! I'm 6 months in a ct ( valuim) For 5 months of that I have had a difficult time breathing. Like my diaphragm isn't functioning at full capacity. I don't go to the doctor cuzz I don't want to deal with the gaslighting. I'm just trying to bide time to see if I gets better. Did you have this symptoms? It's very debilitating. Cant walk very far or stand very long.
Have you considered microdosing magic mushrooms? You probably have and I’m sorry if that triggers you. I’m down the rabbit hole too and I feel the first happiness and I’m just learning about it and starting it. Disregard if you’ve already tried this. I feel for you big time. I know that you’re going to help a lot of people when you find your way back to balance. Keep being real it’s really helpful . Thanks for being vulnerable. Ps: I’ve never commented on anyone’s posts ever- it comes from the heart. The microdosing for me has helped at least shift it. Not for everyone I guess, but there’s a lot of stuff on it online. 🙏big hug
Hi Matt, another question - Are there ways to tweak coping skills to work better or certain ones that do work better? Or any mindsets or CBT or chronic pain or life perspectives that help drive you to want to live? I saw your vid on akathisia and it was good. I feel like i tried everything when i was going through akathisia before being put on Ativan and now i have to get off Ativan and experience it all again. I HAVE to learn to cope or else my partner and others will leave me. Plus i need to in order to live. Thank you so much for all you do. ❤
To be totally honest, I’ve kindof cut and pasted a lot of pieces of random wisdom into my own survival mechanisms over the years. The biggest things for me have been learning to notice the symptoms and not attach to them, and acceptance. But it took me a long time. It’s like a muscle you build.
Thank you Matt. I am over 4 years beyond a 10 month benzo taper and while many of the worst symptoms have resolved I have been rendered completely disabled by it. Appreciate your videos.
I hear you, I’m so sorry you’ve been through it too. More healing will come. It’s inhumane and deeply unfair how long this can last for some of us. Please keep going. Sending love to you ❤️
I'm not in a good place.. stuck on my taper for a while at a very low level (Ashton Manual) My CNS) is NOT ok and everything is a trigger , meaning i can't even argue anymore, my whole body goes into a panic. Like this isn't even normal. There's something really really wrong 😢 I am not like the rest .. i barely can drive anymore either. It got a lot worse
The community is small because many people just want to move on. But a lot of people remain disabled by symptoms in perpetuity, something people going through tapers don’t want to hear. If you’re unlucky enough to be one of those people, you find yourself in the position of having to explain things to others who are complaining about people not believing them during their own issues which is maddening on an entirely different level than the one where people who haven’t experienced it can’t understand it because people just need to extrapolate their own experiences a bit…but often can’t or won’t.
My family! Have tried over and over to explain and now they’re convinced I need to go back to the doctor. I have a text from my doctor which says he does not know what to do at this point. He thought about putting me on meds for TD, uh, no. Then something about a neuropsychiatrist. I love the recent texts from my family saying “you need to start physical therapy for your brain injury”. Uh? And now my lifestyle is being called unhealthy and they won’t support that, uh, wtf are these people talking about?? Where is this crap coming from?? My mom still thinks it’s just anxiety.
I’m so sorry. It’s so unfair. It’s the meds! That’s just the truth. I always recommend that people have their friends/families that are supporting them watch medicating normal. It’s very informative and can help get people to believe this. I believe you. We all do. Sending love ❤️ keep going!
I have been what feels like acute withdrawal from 6 months, but am still on .7mg of the meds. I got withdrawal even doing a 10% taper reduction. Now I don’t know if I am healing or if it’s better to get off completely to know each day is for sure a day for healing. But I can’t get akathisia for months and months the symptoms I have are so severe I’m hanging on by a thread
@@Heymattmarin I’m sorry to hear that. I hate that we have to make these kinds of platitudes to each other. It should have never happened to us in the first place.
Wrongly diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar one 20 years ago after taking 3 days worth of Zoloft. I’ve been stuck in the mental health system. With antipsychotics, can you have relapse psychosis if you try to go off?
Hi Matt Happy New Year I hope you're doing well I have a question for you about things that you may have tried supplement wise, I was wondering if you could list a few of the things that you tried, that did not work, or caused more problems, I've been trying multiple different things with mixed results to keep this simple maybe you could just name some of the substances you might have tried that did not work things like magnesium fish oil, ashwagandha l-theanine CBD oil lion's mane, microdosing, I think I heard you talk about some of these things and some of your other videos I don't have the time or my brain cannot process watching anymore of these videos, so maybe you can help me out, thank you in advance once again I send my blessings to you and your family
I tried everything you just listed and it all provided almost no relief and made all of my symptoms worse. I know it’s a harsh truth, but I wish someone had told me sooner that there’s not really a way out of this via supplements. Time, rest, and good nutrition are the only way through this. I have found that a lot of supplements just further mess with our bodies which are extremely fragile in the wake of these toxic drugs. The only supplements I currently take are for my gut because I truly have to, and I’ll be making a video about that at some point. I hope this helps and I’m sending you so much love.
@@Heymattmarin thank you Matt, God bless you you definitely been through a lot I can tell it's hard to believe the human mind and body can withstand something like this, it just feels as though this is never going to end, but thanks for your reassurance on that, good luck with your future that you have a bright future ahead of you
@@alessiaamanda9435 my timeline is a bit messy, so it’s hard to answer that question. I began my journey by cold turkeying klonopin at the instruction of my doctor. I went into intense withdrawal from that, but was still on a very high dose of Prozac, which I simultaneously began tapering. And I think being on the Prozac, in a way, kindof buffered the benzo withdrawal a bit, even though it was still pretty awful. It wasn’t until I was off of Prozac for about two months that things went from really bad to a level I could not believe. I think it’s because the drugs take several weeks to fully leave the body. I’ve heard similar timelines from a lot of people in the withdrawal community. I hope this is helpful and I’m sending you a lot of love on your healing path.
Well man I just tried to leave you a comment and it looked like TH-cam didn't allow it to go through, it just disappeared, anyway for now I was just curious I watched your interview and I was wondering why you were on antibiotics Tama and what kind of antibiotics
I was on antibiotics for what looked like a really painful skin infection which I now believe was caused by withdrawal. I believe it was florquinalone or however you spell that. Which is known for frying gaba receptors. So it was a double whammy on my very fragile nervous system. I would avoid antibiotics during this recovery process if and when possible.
I have gotten onto benzos because of antidepressant withdrawal and reinstated the original antidepressant because it was so bad. I don't know when I will ever feel normal again and constantly have a headache and feel fatigued and restless. I am very scared for the future and am unsure what to do.
Hi Matt, I am just wondering how you are doing? I see you haven’t made any videos in several months. I hope it’s not because you’ve had another setback. Thinking of you sending good vibes.
Thanks for checking in. I’ve been waiting to make an update video for when I’m doing better to hopefully spread some hope. It’s been very rough lately, I’m sorry to report. Still committed to healing and helping others through this though. I hope you’re well, and thank you for checking in.
Dang!! I’m not trying to be weird but you look really amazing. In this video. You look like a male model today you look like you’re feeling good today you could totally be a model or actor! You are super handsome
@@mitch5222 this is just a suggestion, please don’t mind me if this is unsolicited but it helped me to look at videos and literature to do with emotional regulation specifically and the vagus nerve, or polyvagal theory as it is sometimes called. It personally helped more than the stuff I had learned years previously around anxiety.
@@mitch5222 yes I can make a video about this. Like I said in this video, I think it’s a lot about understanding what phase of the journey you’re in. And if you’re injured by psych meds, there’s an inconsolable phase many people go through where nothing really works to calm us down. And that phase is about survival and getting to the phase in which you can work on it.
@@Heymattmarin it is 6 and half years already. I didnt sleep for 4 days. I dont know if this is just me and my anxiety about getting old and alone. How can i know what is healing and what is from normal anxiety and depression?
Hi Matt, have you or anyone you know tried l-theanine for withdrawal. Also has anyone used a trained homeopathic doctor for this. I too am in this pickle.
Hi Matt, I watched part of your interview with DrJosph I feel for you brother, I am currently at close to a year, still having bad withdrawal symptoms amongst other things, some windows here and there, but it seems as though it is getting worse at times, the biggest problem for me at the moment which started about a month ago is trouble swallowing food tr meaning that it seems like the food is getting stuck somewhere along the way, and having breathing problems shortness of breath, and bad headaches, I am curious that you had said that you were on multiple antibiotics, I'm wondering why you were on antibiotics, and what kind of antibiotics, also I've been on LDN for a while now, for reasons I don't really want to get into other than that I'm taking it for cancer, you had mentioned that you were having trouble with that and getting off of it, I got what you said, maybe you can just answer the question about antibiotics, and how are you doing now, thank you in advance, I am sorry that you had to suffer like this, I know it sucks I never ever expected to have this kind of a problem, it was never talked about, when I was prescribed the medicine, and the doctors have no clue, when I tried to talk to them about tapering and getting liquid and tapering strips they just shut me off, anyway I'm glad you have a great support system, I struggle with that I have a couple friends that I've been sounding off but no family to speak of, anyway have a merry christmas, and a happy New Year with your very supportive family I'm really glad you have that, By the way I was on 20 mg of Prozac when I tapered down precariously, I was under doctor care, but when I told him that I was coming off and what I was doing they turned a blind eye, I sent them information on tapering and response I got from the nurse was what makes you think that the doctors don't know that's already, well if they knew they would have been advising me
Have you heard of neuro-emotional techniuqe which addresses the nervous system component in trauma such as you have experienced from the broken conventional mental health system. Neuro-Emotional therapy is not talk therapy and works rather rapidly in expert hands. It is also known as NET therapy. It is thought to be better than EMDR , with less residual negative aftereffects. Bless you and your courage to share and help others. When patients are not fitting neatly into the medical algorithms, most doctors cannot innovate.
I have tried all kinds of things along those lines and unfortunately found that nothing helps this type of injury very much other than time. The best way to put it is that it’s a hardware problem, not a software problem. Our bodies need time and rest to repair the receptors that get fried in this type of injury. And then after that is when it could be beneficial to do neurological retraining. But trying to retrain a chemical fried nervous system is kinda like telling someone whose hands are broken and in casts to shuffle a deck of cards. In my opinion.
Hi matt, I will try this again, I'm about close to a year being off of Prozac, having a very difficult time at the moment, lots of headaches dizziness unbalanced, headaches, but I'm also battling a serious disease, I sympathize with you, I am very happy that you had support that you did, other than a couple of friends that I sound off to, no supportive family around me it's hard to find support in this matter, I wrote the doctor off that was prescribing the medication, because of their non understanding about good tapering practices, I kept myself from dialing 911 at least three or four times, knowing I would end up in the hands of people that had no clue of what is going on, but anyway my main problems now are breathing problems, and swallowing, it seems like food gets stuck somewhere along the way, that has just happened in the last month the breathing issue is very disconcerting,, not being able to exercise, the fatigue hanging on the things, so I don't pass out, just like you just making it from the kitchen to the bedroom fortunately I've been able to 8 fairly well but lost a lot of weight through this process, I was very athletic, now I am pathetic, anyway I hope you're doing better, and you have a wonderful Christmas if you celebrate that and have a Happy New Year a young guy like you hopefully will be able to recover fully and be out in the world, my world has disintegrated
You are not pathetic. You are injured and you will recover even if you don’t believe it. Please keep going. I’m sending you a lot of love. Merry Christmas ♥️
I was kidnapped by my abusive father and put in a psychiatry hospital. He did this to punish me. I live in a 3rd world country. No laws or human rights.
@@Heymattmarin makes sense, sending you lots of healing. Did your first window come when you were already in Hawaii or before? Like where exactly were you when you felt it
Try explaining to family how you can safely drive in chronic akathisia and tardive dystonia, but you can’t make lists or bend over to clean your apartment to save your life.? (Or at least your dignity). I tried to tell my sister that not many people in chronic akathisia were living alone and that, if I was going to keep doing it, it was like Ukraine, I needed “Weapons, weapons, weapons.” Her response was, “Oh Kevin, you are not in Ukraine.” I was like, “No, I’d rather be.” Note: I also tried to tell her that I was dying for the last 4 years, 1 1/2 hrs away and she said, “There is dying, and there is thinking you are dying. I’m done. Goodbye.” Apparently she doesn’t understand that I had to mourn the loss of over a dozen friends since March 2021 or that my partner, who has been suffering since 2009, didn’t also lose her brother to Effexor? Most of my friends were several years off, some almost a decade. Some people improve, some people decline and well… It’s just like tapering. Some people taper to a spec of dust and still get crippled. I think Shipko is right about a few things. He doesn’t understand shit about benzo injury but he does understand a lot about tardive issues. If your first 5% cut is ugly, your chances of having tardive stuff at the end go way up. My pacing erupted nearly 18 mths off. My friend’s erupted 22 mths off.
I’m so sorry for what you’ve had to walk through. I wish I could make people understand this injury, but they just can’t. You can and will improve, no matter how nonlinear your journey has been. I really believe that. It’s unbelievable what this stuff does, but people do make full recoveries. Please keep going ❤️
Whenever a family member tells me to “calm down”, even though I’ve explained them the symptoms 20 times, I almost burst into tears…
You are my family, please listen :(
My brother gets it, my wife also, to a degree, that’s it.
I’ve been chemically incapable to calm down for 20 months, is my answer.
I don’t know why they keep saying it…
I’ve heard this before!
Ok, if you can just unplug me from the wall socket I might just calm down 🙄
Matt, reminding us that we are suffering from a central nervous system injury is vitally important. I can easily forget and get lost in self-loathing. Recognizing that truth is an immediate mood changer for me. Thank you so much
I’m glad it helps ❤️ I need to be reminded of it a lot in the beginning of my withdrawal. It’s just true.
Thanks mate you are amazing 🙏🏻 I’m 5 years PAWS next week 23rd of July. I’m still healing however I continue to heal and get better every year. I look back at my journey and can’t believe I was strong enough to hold on for the ride. I was so angry for years and especially after my investigation into 14 Doctors. Love and peace from Perth West Australia 🇦🇺 ❤️✌🏻🙏🏻
I’m so glad you’re trending upward! I’m sorry you’ve had to go through it at all though. Love and peace back ❤️
@@Heymattmarin thanks mate ✌🏻 Yeah it’s been a learning journey. I’ve uncovered many problems within the system and helped many family members go through their own health issues. For example, I was able to identify my mums statin induced muscle myopathy when many other doctors couldn’t. I literally saved my mums life and now she’s doing amazing 🙏🏻 I also didn’t enter the experiment in fear of myocarditis and all the other health issues that came from the “you know what”. At the time my heart Palpitations were so bad I couldn’t sleep on my left side. Anyway I guess what I’m saying is, from my major health issues I’ve become more conscious and willing to educate myself. Thanks for everything you’re doing mate ❤️✌🏻
@@brendansmyth5053 that’s amazing. Yes, there are so many diamonds to be mined from this shitheap of a situation. I’m glad you’re able to see them!
@@Heymattmarin ✌🏻❤️🇦🇺
@@brendansmyth5053how long and how many meds did u take?
Taking a Tramodol gave me relief to have a break from nervous breakdown!
Matt your sense of humour and unbridled authenticity is amazing. Despite your troubles. Of all the TH-cam commentators on all this you are the most real! (I also think Dan philosophical phishing is a close second). You are so good at telling it how it is. Much love ❤
Also your potential for real advocacy and cutting through bullsh**! The shot glass analogy is bloomin’ brilliant. I’d love you to accompany me on my next GP visit. 😂
Matt, you are AWESOME! Thank you for doing what you're doing! Very much appreciated indeed! ❤ I took Xanax for 23 years, in 2020 I learned about big pharma so decided I needed off these meds... most of us don't have a clue what we are in for since docs decided not to inform people. Maddening indeed! Been tappering since April 2021, haven't had any since 10-22. I am almost 69 years young! It's been the hardest thing I have ever done!
How are you now?
After 10 hours of severe palpitations and headache I find myself tearful with validation. Thank you for sharing your journey and experiences, it helps a lot (33f, 21 meds over 14 years continuous use, 3 week taper by a dr April 2022, med free and WD month 16.)
Thank you for watching and I’m so glad that it’s been helpful. Sending love to you and wishing you speedy healing ❤️
@@Heymattmarin thanks Matt, wishes for your continued healing too
@@Cstothwhat are your symptoms?
@@mitch5222 headaches, scalp, neck and shoulder pain, pain at base of skull, sensory issues, temperature regulation issues, nausea, digestive issues, weight loss, loss of appetite/disgust towards food, insomnia, TMJ, palpitations, tremors, weakness, dizziness, brain fog, delay in responding/speaking, derealisation, forgetfulness, irritability, fatigue, bruising more easily, hypersensitivity to chemicals/smells/dehydration/low blood sugar, eczema (never had before), sore eyes and sensitive to sunlight, runny nose, muscle aches and zaps. There are probably more. First 10 months symptoms were unrelenting, since then small sporadic windows and changes in frequency of each symptoms hour on hour, day on day or week on week. I still class myself as debilitated by this and completely reliant on support. I am in a figurative hell but remain determined and hopeful for my recovery..
Are you experiencing anything similar?
@@Heymattmarin I have been able to watch more of your story and feel compelled to add:
Wow Matt, what a journey you have endured, survived and continue to overcome. Not only that, using your experience to educate and validate others too. I can relate to a surprising amount of your journey, what hope you offer me.
I am so sorry for what you’ve experienced, Matt. Hope and healing CS
Hello Matt!
I’m on 20th month of akathisia and I’ve hit a bit of a gully.
Your videos are so inspiring.
I compare things year to year, I just pray 2024 will be better than 2023.
Keep going my friend! Healing is happening, truly!
Your light shines so brightly, Matt! It's such a pleasure to watch your videos! I really shows that this experience has given you a great depth of understanding and spiritual maturity.
I believe some of us choose these challenging paths before coming here so we can make a big jump in our soul evolution by going into the dark and holding on to our inner light. Even in pitch blackness and even if everybody around us is calling us crazy. No one will ever be able to take this strength and clarity from you again. Blessings.
Thank you. Really needed this today. Means a lot. Blessings to you.
love this so much! thank you for your brutal honesty and for being so genuine with us. as we all know, it’s a rocky and uncertain journey, but as you say; there’s always light within the journey and (most importantly) at the end of it. one thing we can take from our journey is such a deep sense of gratitude, a wealth of intellect and experience, and a greater love and appreciation for the people who helped us through it. i’ve been very lucky for the relatively stable and successful experience i’ve had with withdrawal, but people like you have still helped so much with understanding everything and gaining more knowledge on this subject. again, thank you!
God bless you Matt for speaking your voice.
So much love and gratitude to you and the team ❤️
Absolutely one of the best videos on benzo withdrawal ever!
God bless you Matt
You do a great job Matt
Thank you Matt for your time , love and all you do.
Thanks for making this video!!! Sooo needed
Thank you for being a voice Matt. You're appreciated ❤
Thanks for stepping up and sharing your invaluable knowledge.
You are such a blessing!
Hoping and praying you are okay Matt.
Omg I love you! That's what I'm told on the groups, practice your breathing techniques. I'm fucking breathing. My nervous system is gone, it's gone, and all I can do is want to jump out of my skin, my body. Definitely missing a few cards.
5 months off and struggling!
@@kelogd6012 I hear you ❤️ keep going. Healing is happening.
@@Heymattmarinstacking days!
Thanks for what you’re doing man. I was profoundly injured by psych meds, my physiology radically changed. But I’m still here 💪
I’m 6 years 9 months off small amount of Prozac , off benzo 7 years 9 months ….sick, hopeless , I can’t breath ……inhumane
So sorry for your ordeal, it is inhumane
So inhumane. But more healing will come. Keep going ❤️
It's so inhumane. I'm here with you💕🥲
Hi Matt, I am writing just to ask you how you are doing as it's been a while since your last video! I really appreciate the wise, courageous and beautiful person you are! I watched all your videos and the gave hope, strength and courage to keep going with my own withdrawals.. I really hope your health is getting better and that if you're not on TH-cam it's just because you are busy living your own life ❤ love from France !
Hey, Matt. It's AK from NJ. Love you Matt! You are one of the most awesome people I know. You have a heart as big as the distance from where you are in LA to where I am in NJ! ❤️❤️❤️ Keep up the amazing work. You are saving lives! Sending you a big hug all the way from the other side of the country and sending a big hug to each and every one of you that is experiencing or that has experienced chemical injury. The power of love cannot be underestimated. It is literally first aid for this injury. It's all about love, healing and light as Matt talks about all the time. The power of goodness will vanquish all darkness and evil. Virtue will undoubtedly prevail. We must all remain strong. We are all so so strong. Anyone that's been through this hell or is going through this torture is as strong as iron! It takes super human strength to prevail and if you are watching Matt's videos and are reading the comments you are alive, so keep going. We must continue on. We'll get through this! As Matt says, "The only way out is through" and we will get through this together. Let's all remain strong and we will see the greatest good for each other and for the world at large. It is the most beautiful thing that we are here supporting each other. The power of standing together and supporting each other is so great it will heal the world. G-d is with us. Love you all! ❤️❤️❤️
This was so beautiful to read ❤️ love you, my friend! We all can and will get through this together. And it’ll likely be the hardest thing we ever have to do. But we’ll be the strongest versions of ourselves for it.
@@Heymattmarin❤
By the way I get everything that you are saying, I know it's hard to really convey in words and emotion what it is really like to go through this, I really appreciate you trying your best to do that
I love the way you are describing everything and how authentic you are being with this situation! Thank you for your amazing videos! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🩵
Hey Matt I hope this finds you in a better place. I miss seeing your videos
The invalidation and advice has had me in a rage. One of the reasons I’ve had to completely isolate, my cns can’t tolerate another human yet I’m so so lonely. No one is safe to me
Thanks Matt
I know the feeling. This journey can be incredibly isolating in a very unique way. But in this community we have each other! And we all know what happened to us. You can do this ❤️
Yes, it is awful that no one innerstands us... what got me through was knowing and FEELING that I WILL HEAL! Please let the rage go, you'll feel much better. ❤
Please know that while many people, perhaps even most, don’t understand, there ARE people who will accept you as you are, believe you, and support you in your journey.
You're an angel 😇 Matt and will become more and more an important voice in this travesty of medical malfeasance impacting 20 percent of the population directly and 100 percent indirectly. You're beautiful inside and out.
Your voice is important. The more people like yourself that share, the better it will be for all people who experience these injuries.
Thank you so much for sharing. It means a lot to all of us out there who have experienced this. Whether it was for a month or for years.
Thank you so much. The encouragement means a lot.
Matt Marin !! Thanks so much for your kindness. It’s really appreciated. I’m 69 lady going through this. 29 months. I’ve had it pretty bad. Aka. Dp/dr muscle twitches have lessened but still not there yet. Weird tight muscle feeling in my rib cage, like pressure. Heard about this. Hope it will leave. Anyway your a diamond in this rough road. Wish you the best in Kauai I love it there. Aloha. Paula in San Diego
Thank you so much, Paula. I’m so sorry you’re in it too. I hold onto the windows and success stories constantly, and so many have gone through what you and I have and live happy lives now. We can do this, keep going ❤️ and I’m here if you ever need support
Thank you 🙏
Im dying. I cant dont this anymore. I want to go back on the drugs to stabilize this horrific feelings but I also know what that means. It is so extremely difficult to remember positive things when each attack is back to back and in each one it feels new or worse and the agony
I am just so sorry. There is no worse suffering than what we endure. Hugs to you :(
You are in the worst of it right now. It will not always be this intense and someday it will be all the way better. You can do this. Please keep going ❤️
Thank you 🙏❤️
Hope ur doing ok. Thanks for ur videos
I've had a lot of experience with meditation. I had a bout of Akathisia that lasted two months. One night I willed myself to sit down and after struggling for about 30 minutes, I was able to meditate and sit in the same chair for two hours. I went to bed thinking maybe I had put an end to the madness, but the next morning I woke up and the pacing started all over again. I was never able to get back to that calm state, no matter how I tried to get back there. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I’m sorry. I find that those types of healing modalities can transform a lot of things, but they don’t seem to touch neurological injuries like this. It’s not fair. But this does heal with time. Keep going ❤️
19 months ago I took citoplram for mild anxiety & the next day I had an adverse reaction. Which was akathisia etc. I’m still not healed & I just recently had to take an antibiotic which charged my symptoms up. Im sensitive to literally everything. If you know anyone who has healed after a setback or can relate please comment below. These drugs are terrible I wish I never took them. Thank you so much for making these videos & try to spread the word! I’m the same age as you, I will be subscribing 😊
I know many people who have healed from setbacks. Keep going. It’s gonna be ok.
Thanks for the video Matt!
2 things -
1. You offered to support folks with akathisia a while back if they needed it. Can you reach out to me please?
2. Can you do a video on breathing issues from benzo withdrawal and how you dealt with that?
My experience caused me to reinstate bc i couldn't get a breath in well enough to even fall asleep for a minute. In other words, i wasn't falling asleep and waking up the rest of the night. I wasnt able to fall asleep period because of how badly i couldn't get a deep breath enough to relax my body and fall asleep. After a week of literally zero sleep. I reinstated. Now im going to taper off soon.
I’m so sorry about what you’ve experienced, and I honor you doing what you have to do for yourself in your recovery process. I do offer coaching/support calls, and you can find my contact info on my website www.othersidehypno.com
Thanks Matt for your words of wisdom and encouragement. I want to start therapy but I never know how I will feel the day of. After 17 months I’ve had to cancel one after another appointment. I may only have 1-2 hrs a day I can function. Is it too soon? Your helping me so very much. Keep going. ❤
I’m sorry you’re in it too. Keep going, it will get easier and easier until it’s gone. A lot of people, myself included, find it unhelpful and premature to start therapy at certain phases of this injury. I think there’s a time for it, and if it’s too soon, it’s too soon. Sending you a lot of love.
Just started my weening process off Zoloft and Wellbutrin. I quit caffeine in preparation and I think that really helped. I know it’s a long hard journey in front of me. I’ve gotten through heroin addiction but this seems scarier because I don’t know what to expect. Also I am not telling anyone I’m doing this because I know everyone will just tell me to stay on them, kicking heroin I had a lot of support and encouragement.
You’re not doing 1 drug at a time?
I dealt with opiate withdrawls and methadone to taper slow and it took years back in the day and got off them...I never imagine in this lifetime i am dealt yet again drug withdrawals on 225 mg venlafaxine and my doc drop me as a patient left me a yr prescription, im taking one tiny bead out but i need my weed to actually get functioning within my body plus dealing with maybe endometriosos, adenomyosis and fibromyalgia. its more torture and suffering added on top more n more ...
its sooo fucking heartbreaking ans soul wrenching
You are not alone. Been through the ringer myself with these. I was diagnosed with a vestibular disorder bc of this lexapeo and Xanax poison. Did you have a vestibular disorder? It’s called PPPD. It’s a neurological disorder but I know in my mind it’s from these meds. Unbalanced and have this rocking sensation in my head when I’m sitting
Do you have this sensation while you are walking?
Hello dear Matt, i hope youre doing well and haven't heard from you in a while. I'm sending my warmest love to you!!
Freja
You’re essentially leaving the farm of an organized crime ring. This is normal and relatable.
Subacute is such a long long limbo, I’ve had like 1 year of it.
Untold suffering.
Hey Matt, I can so relate to the trigger word " Just Breathe"! I'm 6 months in a ct ( valuim)
For 5 months of that I have had a difficult time breathing. Like my diaphragm isn't functioning at full capacity. I don't go to the doctor cuzz I don't want to deal with the gaslighting. I'm just trying to bide time to see if I gets better. Did you have this symptoms? It's very debilitating. Cant walk very far or stand very long.
I’m so sorry. Yes, I dealt with those symptoms and they improved with time. Keep going ❤️
Have you considered microdosing magic mushrooms? You probably have and I’m sorry if that triggers you. I’m down the rabbit hole too and I feel the first happiness and I’m just learning about it and starting it. Disregard if you’ve already tried this. I feel for you big time. I know that you’re going to help a lot of people when you find your way back to balance. Keep being real it’s really helpful . Thanks for being vulnerable. Ps: I’ve never commented on anyone’s posts ever- it comes from the heart. The microdosing for me has helped at least shift it. Not for everyone I guess, but there’s a lot of stuff on it online.
🙏big hug
Made me worse but I’m glad it helps you ❤️
Hi Matt, another question - Are there ways to tweak coping skills to work better or certain ones that do work better? Or any mindsets or CBT or chronic pain or life perspectives that help drive you to want to live? I saw your vid on akathisia and it was good.
I feel like i tried everything when i was going through akathisia before being put on Ativan and now i have to get off Ativan and experience it all again. I HAVE to learn to cope or else my partner and others will leave me. Plus i need to in order to live. Thank you so much for all you do. ❤
To be totally honest, I’ve kindof cut and pasted a lot of pieces of random wisdom into my own survival mechanisms over the years. The biggest things for me have been learning to notice the symptoms and not attach to them, and acceptance. But it took me a long time. It’s like a muscle you build.
Can you do a video on distracting please & things you do around the house when the mental, intrusive ocd looping, symptoms get bad? 😊
Thank you Matt. I am over 4 years beyond a 10 month benzo taper and while many of the worst symptoms have resolved I have been rendered completely disabled by it. Appreciate your videos.
I hear you, I’m so sorry you’ve been through it too. More healing will come. It’s inhumane and deeply unfair how long this can last for some of us. Please keep going. Sending love to you ❤️
@@Heymattmarin Received and returned
Disabled how?
I'm not in a good place.. stuck on my taper for a while at a very low level (Ashton Manual) My CNS) is NOT ok and everything is a trigger , meaning i can't even argue anymore, my whole body goes into a panic. Like this isn't even normal. There's something really really wrong 😢
I am not like the rest .. i barely can drive anymore either. It got a lot worse
I’m so sorry. I’ve been there. It’s inhumane. Keep going, it’s going to get better with time ❤️
@@Heymattmarin 🙏🏻💜🙏🏻💜
The community is small because many people just want to move on. But a lot of people remain disabled by symptoms in perpetuity, something people going through tapers don’t want to hear. If you’re unlucky enough to be one of those people, you find yourself in the position of having to explain things to others who are complaining about people not believing them during their own issues which is maddening on an entirely different level than the one where people who haven’t experienced it can’t understand it because people just need to extrapolate their own experiences a bit…but often can’t or won’t.
😢i understand
My family! Have tried over and over to explain and now they’re convinced I need to go back to the doctor. I have a text from my doctor which says he does not know what to do at this point. He thought about putting me on meds for TD, uh, no. Then something about a neuropsychiatrist. I love the recent texts from my family saying “you need to start physical therapy for your brain injury”. Uh? And now my lifestyle is being called unhealthy and they won’t support that, uh, wtf are these people talking about?? Where is this crap coming from?? My mom still thinks it’s just anxiety.
I’m so sorry. It’s so unfair. It’s the meds! That’s just the truth. I always recommend that people have their friends/families that are supporting them watch medicating normal. It’s very informative and can help get people to believe this. I believe you. We all do. Sending love ❤️ keep going!
I have been what feels like acute withdrawal from 6 months, but am still on .7mg of the meds. I got withdrawal even doing a 10% taper reduction. Now I don’t know if I am healing or if it’s better to get off completely to know each day is for sure a day for healing. But I can’t get akathisia for months and months the symptoms I have are so severe I’m hanging on by a thread
Hey Matt, haven’t heard from you in a while. How have you been doing? Sending healing energy your way
Having a very hard time. Been in protracted for 3.5 years. Been on a break from supporting/making videos bc I’m trying to stay alive. Sending love.
@@Heymattmarin I’m sorry to hear that. I hate that we have to make these kinds of platitudes to each other. It should have never happened to us in the first place.
Yea gaslighting i hear you
Currently struggling with benzos and terrified to start tapering😢
Hi Matt did you taper together or different timeline.
Wrongly diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar one 20 years ago after taking 3 days worth of Zoloft. I’ve been stuck in the mental health system. With antipsychotics, can you have relapse psychosis if you try to go off?
From what I have heard, yes.
Hi Matt Happy New Year I hope you're doing well I have a question for you about things that you may have tried supplement wise, I was wondering if you could list a few of the things that you tried, that did not work, or caused more problems, I've been trying multiple different things with mixed results to keep this simple maybe you could just name some of the substances you might have tried that did not work things like magnesium fish oil, ashwagandha l-theanine CBD oil lion's mane, microdosing, I think I heard you talk about some of these things and some of your other videos I don't have the time or my brain cannot process watching anymore of these videos, so maybe you can help me out, thank you in advance once again I send my blessings to you and your family
I tried everything you just listed and it all provided almost no relief and made all of my symptoms worse. I know it’s a harsh truth, but I wish someone had told me sooner that there’s not really a way out of this via supplements. Time, rest, and good nutrition are the only way through this. I have found that a lot of supplements just further mess with our bodies which are extremely fragile in the wake of these toxic drugs. The only supplements I currently take are for my gut because I truly have to, and I’ll be making a video about that at some point. I hope this helps and I’m sending you so much love.
@@Heymattmarin thank you Matt, God bless you you definitely been through a lot I can tell it's hard to believe the human mind and body can withstand something like this, it just feels as though this is never going to end, but thanks for your reassurance on that, good luck with your future that you have a bright future ahead of you
@@Heymattmarinhi Matt I want to ask you, how long after you weaned off did withdrawal start
@@alessiaamanda9435 my timeline is a bit messy, so it’s hard to answer that question. I began my journey by cold turkeying klonopin at the instruction of my doctor. I went into intense withdrawal from that, but was still on a very high dose of Prozac, which I simultaneously began tapering. And I think being on the Prozac, in a way, kindof buffered the benzo withdrawal a bit, even though it was still pretty awful. It wasn’t until I was off of Prozac for about two months that things went from really bad to a level I could not believe. I think it’s because the drugs take several weeks to fully leave the body. I’ve heard similar timelines from a lot of people in the withdrawal community. I hope this is helpful and I’m sending you a lot of love on your healing path.
@@Heymattmarin and how are you feeling now did you get better after some time and how long does it get better for you
Well man I just tried to leave you a comment and it looked like TH-cam didn't allow it to go through, it just disappeared, anyway for now I was just curious I watched your interview and I was wondering why you were on antibiotics Tama and what kind of antibiotics
I was on antibiotics for what looked like a really painful skin infection which I now believe was caused by withdrawal. I believe it was florquinalone or however you spell that. Which is known for frying gaba receptors. So it was a double whammy on my very fragile nervous system. I would avoid antibiotics during this recovery process if and when possible.
I have gotten onto benzos because of antidepressant withdrawal and reinstated the original antidepressant because it was so bad. I don't know when I will ever feel normal again and constantly have a headache and feel fatigued and restless. I am very scared for the future and am unsure what to do.
I Hear you. You are not alone. Your story is resonant with so many others I’ve heard. Have you checked out inner compass exchange?
@@Heymattmarin I have not but I will check it out
How are you doing now
i really dont know@@alessiaamanda9435
Hi Matt,
I am just wondering how you are doing? I see you haven’t made any videos in several months. I hope it’s not because you’ve had another setback. Thinking of you sending good vibes.
Thanks for checking in. I’ve been waiting to make an update video for when I’m doing better to hopefully spread some hope. It’s been very rough lately, I’m sorry to report. Still committed to healing and helping others through this though. I hope you’re well, and thank you for checking in.
I’m slowly tapering off Lexapro. 20 mg down to 15 right now. I don’t feel so good.
Not a medical professional but might be good to slow down the taper if you’re having a rough time. Sending love.
Dang!! I’m not trying to be weird but you look really amazing. In this video. You look like a male model today you look like you’re feeling good today you could totally be a model or actor! You are super handsome
Thank you that’s really kind of you!
@@Heymattmarinand smart. Any video how to deal with anxiety without meds.
@@mitch5222 this is just a suggestion, please don’t mind me if this is unsolicited but it helped me to look at videos and literature to do with emotional regulation specifically and the vagus nerve, or polyvagal theory as it is sometimes called. It personally helped more than the stuff I had learned years previously around anxiety.
@@mitch5222 yes I can make a video about this. Like I said in this video, I think it’s a lot about understanding what phase of the journey you’re in. And if you’re injured by psych meds, there’s an inconsolable phase many people go through where nothing really works to calm us down. And that phase is about survival and getting to the phase in which you can work on it.
@@Heymattmarin it is 6 and half years already. I didnt sleep for 4 days. I dont know if this is just me and my anxiety about getting old and alone. How can i know what is healing and what is from normal anxiety and depression?
Hi Matt, have you or anyone you know tried l-theanine for withdrawal. Also has anyone used a trained homeopathic doctor for this. I too am in this pickle.
I have and I know many others who have along with countless other supplements. It did nothing for me, sadly.
Hi Matt, I watched part of your interview with DrJosph
I feel for you brother, I am currently at close to a year, still having bad withdrawal symptoms amongst other things, some windows here and there, but it seems as though it is getting worse at times, the biggest problem for me at the moment which started about a month ago is trouble swallowing food tr meaning that it seems like the food is getting stuck somewhere along the way, and having breathing problems shortness of breath, and bad headaches, I am curious that you had said that you were on multiple antibiotics, I'm wondering why you were on antibiotics, and what kind of antibiotics, also I've been on LDN for a while now, for reasons I don't really want to get into other than that I'm taking it for cancer, you had mentioned that you were having trouble with that and getting off of it, I got what you said, maybe you can just answer the question about antibiotics, and how are you doing now, thank you in advance, I am sorry that you had to suffer like this, I know it sucks I never ever expected to have this kind of a problem, it was never talked about, when I was prescribed the medicine, and the doctors have no clue, when I tried to talk to them about tapering and getting liquid and tapering strips they just shut me off, anyway I'm glad you have a great support system, I struggle with that I have a couple friends that I've been sounding off but no family to speak of, anyway have a merry christmas, and a happy New Year with your very supportive family I'm really glad you have that,
By the way I was on 20 mg of Prozac when I tapered down precariously,
I was under doctor care, but when I told him that I was coming off and what I was doing they turned a blind eye, I sent them information on tapering and response I got from the nurse was what makes you think that the doctors don't know that's already, well if they knew they would have been advising me
Have you heard of neuro-emotional techniuqe which addresses the nervous system component in trauma such as you have experienced from the broken conventional mental health system. Neuro-Emotional therapy is not talk therapy and works rather rapidly in expert hands. It is also known as NET therapy. It is thought to be better than EMDR , with less residual negative aftereffects. Bless you and your courage to share and help others. When patients are not fitting neatly into the medical algorithms, most doctors cannot innovate.
I have tried all kinds of things along those lines and unfortunately found that nothing helps this type of injury very much other than time. The best way to put it is that it’s a hardware problem, not a software problem. Our bodies need time and rest to repair the receptors that get fried in this type of injury. And then after that is when it could be beneficial to do neurological retraining. But trying to retrain a chemical fried nervous system is kinda like telling someone whose hands are broken and in casts to shuffle a deck of cards. In my opinion.
Hi matt, I will try this again, I'm about close to a year being off of Prozac, having a very difficult time at the moment, lots of headaches dizziness unbalanced, headaches, but I'm also battling a serious disease, I sympathize with you, I am very happy that you had support that you did, other than a couple of friends that I sound off to, no supportive family around me it's hard to find support in this matter, I wrote the doctor off that was prescribing the medication, because of their non understanding about good tapering practices, I kept myself from dialing 911 at least three or four times, knowing I would end up in the hands of people that had no clue of what is going on, but anyway my main problems now are breathing problems, and swallowing, it seems like food gets stuck somewhere along the way, that has just happened in the last month the breathing issue is very disconcerting,, not being able to exercise, the fatigue hanging on the things, so I don't pass out, just like you just making it from the kitchen to the bedroom fortunately I've been able to 8 fairly well but lost a lot of weight through this process, I was very athletic, now I am pathetic, anyway I hope you're doing better, and you have a wonderful Christmas if you celebrate that and have a Happy New Year a young guy like you hopefully will be able to recover fully and be out in the world, my world has disintegrated
You are not pathetic. You are injured and you will recover even if you don’t believe it. Please keep going. I’m sending you a lot of love. Merry Christmas ♥️
I'm sorry
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How are you now buddy?
Hey Matt,can I contact you some way?
Hey there. Yes, you can find my contact info on my website which is in my bio if you want to schedule a coaching/support call or hypno session ❤️
I was kidnapped by my abusive father and put in a psychiatry hospital. He did this to punish me. I live in a 3rd world country. No laws or human rights.
Time for another update?
I have been holding off until I’m going better because I don’t want to scare anyone.
@@Heymattmarin makes sense, sending you lots of healing. Did your first window come when you were already in Hawaii or before? Like where exactly were you when you felt it
@@djammer I’ve only ever had partial windows. I felt some good ones in Hawaii when I visited in march.
Did you try dnrs or Gupta?
I do not agree. You can advise to pray during accute faze.
Try explaining to family how you can safely drive in chronic akathisia and tardive dystonia, but you can’t make lists or bend over to clean your apartment to save your life.? (Or at least your dignity).
I tried to tell my sister that not many people in chronic akathisia were living alone and that, if I was going to keep doing it, it was like Ukraine, I needed “Weapons, weapons, weapons.”
Her response was, “Oh Kevin, you are not in Ukraine.”
I was like, “No, I’d rather be.”
Note: I also tried to tell her that I was dying for the last 4 years, 1 1/2 hrs away and she said, “There is dying, and there is thinking you are dying. I’m done. Goodbye.”
Apparently she doesn’t understand that I had to mourn the loss of over a dozen friends since March 2021 or that my partner, who has been suffering since 2009, didn’t also lose her brother to Effexor? Most of my friends were several years off, some almost a decade. Some people improve, some people decline and well…
It’s just like tapering. Some people taper to a spec of dust and still get crippled. I think Shipko is right about a few things. He doesn’t understand shit about benzo injury but he does understand a lot about tardive issues. If your first 5% cut is ugly, your chances of having tardive stuff at the end go way up. My pacing erupted nearly 18 mths off. My friend’s erupted 22 mths off.
I’m so sorry for what you’ve had to walk through. I wish I could make people understand this injury, but they just can’t. You can and will improve, no matter how nonlinear your journey has been. I really believe that. It’s unbelievable what this stuff does, but people do make full recoveries. Please keep going ❤️