Surviving Akathisia & Protracted Psych Med Withdrawal | An Interview with Matt Marin
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"I hate the way that the psychiatric system has disease-ified all of these Human experiences". Well said.
Yes & what he said at the end about being human & life is supposed to b uncomfortable very real statement there
Similar story here. Barely survived a 3 year akathisia trip from abilify for, get this, anxiety. I even told the doctor I had what I thought was diskanesia, because he told me that was a possible side effect. He told me no, and gave me more meds. Slept 19 hours a day for almost 3 years. Honestly, I feel like I died and came back to life. Then 5 months later, I tapered off benzos and had a injury from that. Not to mention other more minor injuries from buspirone, gabapentin, clonazepam and Paxil. Almost off everything now and I have zero anxiety, zero depression and I feel better in my life than ever. Just grateful to be alive Honestly.
I'm glad to hear that you are feeling better now and almost off the drugs. I've been through it too, protracted withdrawal from lexapro and xanax. The ironic thing for me is that I was originally put on these drugs for mild to moderate anxiety, but the absolute terror and dread I experienced during withdrawal makes my original anxiety seem like nothing by comparison.
Am in it now and titrated over 5 months. In 5 wks totally destroyed. No help anywhere dont know if I will survive
I am where yu were and I don’t know if I will survive. No support network, old live alone extremely frightening and Drs are uneducated on these effects and why we get this.
Excellent interview ; it is stunning and horrific what this man has gone through. There is a big lawsuit underway about Benzos. When I told my own doctor that my pal was on a Benzo; he gasped in disapproval and when my friend went to him he said you have been on these too long and took him off; would you believe many symptoms that had been attributed to his ptsd actually disappeared, so the Benzos had been causing symptoms that he was supposedly being treated for.
Hello; I have witnessed what you are going through with a friend. But I want to encourage you that a new doctor helped him get off and he accomplished this despite being hooked for some twenty years. There is a lawsuit currently and websites; I hope there might be some information that could be useful. All best to you. @@volt8684
It is horrifying what happened to you in the psychiatric hospitals, I'm so sorry. The gaslighting by the medical professionals blaming the patients for the toxic, damaging drugs THEY prescribe which CAUSE the harm. Thank you for sharing your story. The system is desperately broken and people need to be made aware of how extremely dangerous these drugs are.
Exactly. It’s Crimes Against Humanity. There ARE much safer ways to heal peoples emotional issues.
So true, I am on Clonopin and have been for 40 years. Now my doc wants to take it away. I am 65 and the damage is done. I cant spend the next few years withdrawing. It is barberic torture, inhumane and many people do take their lives. I have to go through hell because I was prescribed these drugs at 21 years old.
Breaking folks down at the most vulnerable times of their lives. The worst thing is that little hint of a smirk when they smugly tell you that your symptoms are simply the result of delusion. It's like "hey *you* are the guy who came to *me* and since l happen to be a much bigger expert in what the patient is actually experiencing and feeling than the patient themselves it is obvious that you the patient is such a paranoid contrarian that you are blaming what is clearly making you much better. I think we better get you on an anti psychotic medicine and let's start you off on one of the older ones first because they make you sleepy and that should calm you down because you're obviously quite agitated by your delusional evaluation that these pills are actually simply making you worse. That's impossible. Believe me I know exactly what's happening to you because l did some med school two decades ago. Even if in fact we don't have a clue how most of these drugs actually work. Haven't got the faintest clue."
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I’m almost off Prozac after 17 yrs. It has been so hard. My dr has been ZERO help. Thank God for this channel that helps me feel normal. Thank you for this work. Praying for all of us.
Pleased to hear you're free of it.
I had awful suicidal thoughts on Prozac & made an actual attempt, was hospitalised, never will I take ANY anti depressants😮 have other coping methods.
The doctors will gaslight you because they don't want to admit that the drugs they prescribed to you caused you harm. If they were to admit that, they know it opens them up to liability, so they just gaslight patients and act like it's all in your head.
I took it for a few months as a teen and got worse and worse. Became genuinely suicidal. I quit myself by tapering over the course of a week or two and luckily had no symptoms. In fact I felt better than ever. When I told my dr at the next visit, he literally LAUGHED at me and said I would kill myself. I ended the appointment early and never went back. Over 5 years later I'm still doing better. Exercise and meditation have helped me more than prozac ever did, but I understand the answer isn't so simple for everyone. I still get depressed for a few days sometimes, but I always snap out of it. I'm optimistic for my future and I love my life now. I have ups and downs. That's life, and I love it.
@@gryaznygreebTO GOD BE THE GLORY! That’s wonderful to hear ❤️🙏🏼
That’s awesome, Stephanie!
Prozac was one of the many antidepressants that I took. I’ve been on a plethora of antidepressants and antipsychotics over the past 3 decades.
Because of the help of this channel, I too, have taken myself off of Effexor. It’s been several months, it’s been unpleasant, and my personal psychiatrist has not been an active participant in helping my journey.
I’m still “married” to benzodiazepines, (Klonipin,) and look forward to the day that hopefully I will be free from that as well.
Best of luck to you in your journey, and all your endeavors.
Isn’t it just wonderful that we found this doctor who cares about people who he’s never even met?!?! I’m grateful to live in this time of technology, where we have access to information and expertise.
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Peace, love and mahalo!
Now I'm addicted to Witt-Doerring psychiatry.
I am, too, but suffer from severe OCD and misophonia and so many young people like this lovely, intelligent, young man use "upspeak" when they talk and I go nuts after five minutes. 😢
@@jeanmank742 What is "upspeak"?
@@christineh.6465 Ending each phrase ot sentence as if asking a question? You know?
😂😂😂 🙌🫶
They do offer so much great information!
@@jeanmank742I don't notice it that much. But the end of sentence word upward inflection occasionally, not every sentence.
His tone of voice is pleasant imo.
Today’s psychiatry is at an insanely obsolete state that refuses to realize its own (lethal) flaws by refusing to listen to patients’ experiences. I’m mortified. How can these doctors supposedly here to help deny our mere experiences. We pay the price with our own damaged brains and bodies for years. This is criminal. I hope this channel helps raise consciousness (isn’t that the point of psychology lol pun intended) on these issues. 2 years off, still suffering.
Thank you Matt for your work.
It's been a real horror show. The last thing you need experiencing withdrawals and pssd is to be gaslit about it. How they can sit there unfazed by what they're hearing is just unbelievable. The psychopathy needed to completely disregard a sensibly put patient experience. It's been 14 months for me after my 8 day Ritalin run-in.
I've commented this a few times now: But when I tapered myself off of prozac 5 years ago as a teenager and then told my psychiatrist, he literally laughed, like chuckled at me, and said, "You're gonna kill yourself if you quit it." I said "I already quit taking it and feel better than I've felt in years." Then I laughed in return, and never went back. 5 years later I'm happier than ever. I've had depressive episodes since then but I learned to defeat them with exercise, meditation, and finding ways to feel inspired. I love life now. That psychiatrist was the biggest POS I ever met. He prescribed me several meds and incorrectly diagnosed me bipolar type 2 despite 2 later therapists (Not psychs, they couldn't prescribe meds) telling me they believe it was just a cycle of depression + anxiety when not depressed. The wellbutrin he prescribed me actually caused me not to sleep for 2-3 days because it is literally a cathinone, same class as "bath salts" an NDRI, and then that just confirmed to him I had manic symptoms. If he thought I had BPD 2 why the fuck did he prescribe me a medication that increases noradrenaline and dopamine without also prescribing an anti psychotic? I'm no pharmacologist but even I know that is a recipe for disaster. It's almost like he wanted me to believe I needed meds when I didn't.
@@gryaznygreeb I had a similar experience fseeking help for suspected borderline. They diagnosed me with adhd and gave me stimulants which of course jacked me up all to hell which made my nervous system to shut down. With borderline traits you are already disassociating and depressed. Then after stimulants I couldn't associate at all. I'm still recovering 15 months later. If anyone else did that to someone you'd say they're trying to kill you. They took everything from me that makes life worth living.
The "old school" psychiatric community believes they are the end all to what is correct. That cloak they wear like an armor to anything or anyone who questions them or their methods. This was a community that only a few decades ago would create brain damaged humans in the name of treatment by sticking an ice pick into the eye socket and breaking into the brain from that thin bone above the eye socket and fishing around while asking the patient to sing something until they couldn't anymore. I wouldn't trust a thing that one of these doctors do. They would prescribe the same outcome chemically today.
Absolutely right; imho it is medieval... those who dismiss the complaints of patients simply do not know the reality of what some side effects are like and how tough it is to get off them. There is a massive lawsuit underway by Benzo survivors
It makes me shake when i watch this because my son is on a psych ward and he has been horribly injured. You give me hope.
That must be horrid. All this suffering is often worse on family. I do hope you remember to take care of yourself.
I've been in, perhaps, something similar to your son & there is always some silver lining to dark clouds, IMO.
Best wishes
Also, if I were you I wouldn't watch too much of these, because although informative, they also take one down a rabbit hole & it can be like watching 'fear porn'....as they call it. Everyone is affected differently & sometimes these are worse case scenario's.
Thank you for your comments!
@@sTraYa249"When you get the message hang up the phone".
Not meant in an absolute sense. However we must always remember that mountains are mountains and rivers are rivers.
Otherwise we may mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself.
Hospital phsyc wards aren't bad but others can be horrible. I feel for some of those people. Allot of times they're completely normal when they take their meds correctly.
This describes the hell I’ve been living from gabapentin/Valium injury.
I have sent this video to loved ones in hopes that they watch the entire thing and perhaps peruse the comments in order to understand what I’m going through.
I sadly don’t think most will. We are truly on our own & the only solace sometimes is to realize we aren’t alone, sadly so many are aware of this and experience this.
I do not see how these drugs are even available - save for extreme circumstances.
They certainly should not be given our cavalierly & patients shouldn’t be left to figure this out on their own with ZERO support from the medical community that put them ON these medications.
It’s barbaric.
Currently riding out a terror surge, simultaneously feeling grateful for all that I have - but terrified of losing it, and some day soon, I will lose it all.
I cannot work. It’s so hard to heal under the duress of complete helplessness and future homelessness.
Cannot get awarded disability.
My heart is with everyone who has suffered Injury from medications, especially those with no, or dwindling support.
I’m so sorry for everyone suffering.
I agree & am going thru the same things as you right now w benzos of 20 plus yrs now this will b my 4rth or 5th time I think...I'm 42 n got stuck in all this at 16 but not medicated w it till 18 yea..so I can't believe this is still happening as I thought it was just a 90's "thing" ugh...it's ruined my life w everything literally been homeless lost my relationships or got into bad abusive one's still in this but trying to get out n get my life back but rn the withdrawls are too bad..& if I have any chance again at this point I'm nver going back on these or two a psychiatrist ever again tbh...it's not worth loosing ur life literally in every way shape & form..like he's stated this makes u so miserable to the point were u just want it to end...but I guess "fortunately" 4 me I have gone thru this more than once & I maybe? A bit stronger now & how to deal w it? I hope? I dunno but yes ur not alone no one is in this & the whole system of all this I wish you best of luck in ur journey of recovery ✨️
OMG....I am so sorry to hear your story and your suffering. It's so sad that so many people like us are dealing with so much mental pain. I too am suffering and praying that one day I can live a normal life without depression & anxiety. I am sending positive energy your way and want you to know that people care about you. 🙏
Gabbapentin is the devil. I had SUCH a bad reaction thank God bc I got right off right away. I'm so sorry you're going though this. I'm going through this w getting off Cymbalta. God bless you🕊
Yea I went to a psych ward once . What a nightmare of lies and ignorance. There is no help for us . We are on our own
This young man is an inspiration. I can't even fathom the level of suffering that he and others have been through because of the so called "medicine" presented to us by this corrupt and evil system. He is right: we can't succumb and we can't let them win. I am convinced that those at the very top want us weak, dependent, confused, helpless, and cut off from knowledge of ourselves and of the divine.
Matt turned the tables on this by using it to become stronger, more awake and aware, and more resilient.
Hearing this gives me hope that maybe if enough people wake up, we can rise above the influences that were meant to enslave us. Bravo.
This young man is so wise and so open, honest... I really hope he follows the path that he's on helping others...and realizes that without his personal horrific and first hand knowledge he wouldn't be here changing the world. Matt you truly are a gift from God.
Want to be friends?
I had Akathesia for 4-5 months & it was a living hell. I barely slept. I very rarely ate. I lost about 60 lbs & paced/walked back & forth in my small apartment non-stop. I kept going back & forth to my psychiatrist & they just kept increasing my meds. I couldn't even sit still in their office. I was hospitalized twice. Once by my doctor & 2nd time I admitted myself because I was suicidal. It was a nightmare. No one understood. My doctors said they had never seen this before. I prayed & prayed & prayed for relief. It was only after my 2nd hospital stay where all my medications were discontinued that I finally got relief. Even then it took another month of being off meds to stabilize...I feel for anyone going through this. I had sooooo much anxiety from going through this..Im scared to death of meds now & am only on 1 that is non addictive...I never knew this is what I had until seeing this video...Crazy how even my doctors said they had never seen this before...Im soooo thankful to have made it through this because it felt like it would never end
I experienced a similar situation for 10 months, psychiatrists did not know akathisia and it took 3 hospitalizations to understand and heal me!
Also had akathesia, many years ago now. You describe it perfectly when you say it's a living hell. If any doctor or psychiatrist had to go through it they would think long and hard about prescribing these awful drugs so easily. There has to be a more humane and compassionate way of treating human distress. Psychiatry has to change radically.
@@annepilkington255 I totally agree. I'm soo thankful to have made it through it & 🙏 for the 1s that are still suffering
I take Efexer ..4mg of xanex and 200mg of seriquil..I feel catatonic..can't speak with people I love and barely leave my bed..if I could rewind after my 21 day coma..I would of never touched any of this garbage
@@nickmorgan8434 hope you are able to heal soon 🙏
Recently I fractured my spine in 4 places and am healing slowly and mindfully without drugs. It’s been incredibly painful, but everything I’ve been through in my 51 years on Earth pales in comparison to benzo withdrawal. I walked through the fires of hell on Earth that is benzo w/d and I’m not sure how I survived. I came out warrior status!
Oh my gosh. That is horrible. But if you can make thru the hell of benzo recovery you can do anything. I am currently recovering from benzo use and am looking forward to being mostly normal again. Did you fully recover from benzo?
@@LanceJones-mh7tz I am protracted. 6 years off in November from benzos and 4.5 years from AD after 25 years of polydrugging. It’s hard to gage where I am right now because of my back but I’m definitely getting better every year! Last year I had a huge 8 month setback from supplements and then I was starting to live and work part time again. And then I fell. It’s been a long road to recovery for me but I will never stop believing I will get back to live the second half of my life on my terms and fully. Good luck Lance!
You are an absolute WARRIOR 💯
@@LanceJones-mh7tzhey Lance! Still recovering in my 6th year. I wonder if the neurological damage and muscle issues are permanent. Its made healing my spine that more difficult. 😢
@@estelled389thank you 😊
Akathisia is like being burned alive/ the only dread that I could put it into words is that it sort of felt like how I always imagined the victims at the top of world trade center felt before jumping to their deaths in order to spare themselves from the flames.
Akathisia is hideous. It really is, anybody that knows.
A friend had a break down from school stress. The psychiatrist put her on meds. She came to visit and fell asleep on my couch. She was not the same person. Had she cleaned up her diet and got more rest, she would have been fine, but no they've drugged her up instead and turned her into an unrecognisable zombie.
Sooo Sorry. It’s despicable, that these Meds change and harm People!
Pray she becomes her old Self!
The original tests done on these Drugs in the 90’s Showed these awful Results.
The Drug Companies ignored these results! 🙏🏻
My god such a strong and beautiful man! He shines so bright 🙏🌞
These drugs are literal poison. Thank you for sharing your sorry. I’m currently tapering benzos. It’s hell.
Hi Ashley it can be done; my veteran pal got off them; I think it helped that after years of being on a scary array of meds including benzos, he finally had a good doctor who disapproved of benzos; validated him. There is a big group which is now involved in a lawsuit and I hope that all of you who are going through this can be compensated although frankly what you have endured no amount of money can help; you just want to get back to normal. I had read Dr. Peter Breggins Driving Soldiers Crazy With Psych Meds and he and his wife have published material and there may be some remedies suggested; I am not sure; I know it alerted me to what my vet pal was going through, other people were dismissive; tended to blame the patient who is the victim.
Same here..been on them for ovr 20 yrs stay strong 💪 we got this
I've been on 4 mg of Xanax 10 years I take all of them at night just to fall asleep..I want this anymore
The psychological aspect is, to me, the most dangerous. And, it is not so much psychological as it is chemical/physical. That distinction must be understood. You don’t ‘work’ on those symptoms…you endure them until healing occurs.
Matt explains his symptoms so well. Thank you!
It took me quite some time to realise I had akathisia because I didn't pace. I had the pain in my diagram and the feeling of absolute terror, but my brain told me I'd die if I moved even an inch. So I became frozen in fear. Now am doing quite well nine months post-taper.
What were you tapering?
@@adamwiseman6117 Diapam
@@pikkuoowow, how scary to be afraid to physically move.
Disassociation Matt describes. Observing the self go through torture, being aware of the symptoms, and not wanting to go through them, is real.
I paced like a wild tiger in a small cage
Been mostly frozen for two months
Matt has been through so much
What insight and intelligence
He has a natural sense of empathy that you know is missing in much of this whole process
Money, bureaucracy, big pharma, greed, and people just not caring how their decisions impact lives is a serious problem
This should not happen to anyone
But his age and youth might help him through to the other side
He has been through hell but he seems to have resilience, courage, and a desire to survive
Some people don’t make it
He can really help people because he understands what the rest of us have been through- getting trapped in that psychiatry rabbit hole
and struggling through bad advice, misinformation, or just a general
Lack
Of concern for human beings
He is exceptional and like a ray of light for fellow sufferers; thanks to him lives may be saved from having to go through this kind of ordeal.
I lost 71 lbs in 90 days at one point during my Klonopin taper. That abdominal tearing & the rapid weight loss during my taper, and the tinnitus explosion after my jump, were hallmarks of my taper & jump.
In fact, I was so distracted by being unable to live with the freight train in my head that I didn’t notice the tardive akathisia and tardive dystonia erupting. I was only getting 1-2hrs/night of sleep for the first 4-5 months off. That gradually increased to 3-4 by 9 mths.
At the same time, I experienced a peak of post acute symptoms around 7-9 months off. The myoclonus was so bad. I’d wake feeling physically gonged on the head. I’d fly out of bed, drowning in my upper sinuses, head pulled back in dystonia and air hunger. Each morning nearly killed me for the first year off.
I wished that I could say it’s gotten easier 3 years later. I didn’t even start pacing until 14-18mths off. The dystonia in my feet has gotten worse with the pacing, but the dystonia in my back has gotten better. I felt physically whipped in the back, or hit with a sledge hammer, every 15 seconds for the first year. That stuff ended about 2 years off.
The pain sitting or laying got insanely worse. Year 3 has been worse than Year 2, but not as bad as Year 1. Cognitively, I’d steadily improved since the beginning, but I’m just waking up more and more into my damaged body. That can be a really hard part of this.
I didn’t know this kind of pain existed on earth. Nothing works for it either when you have akathisia & dystonic pain. Even opiates give this quick tolerance building appearance and don’t work 20% of what they used to work and you PAY with more akathisia & dystonia for seeking relief. Sleeping in akathisia is like trying to fall asleep in the trunk of a moving car. It’s been 24/7 for 3 years and counting. People cannot imagine. It’s like ALS + Parkinson’s + “insert worse thing ever”.
Sorry, like Matt, I could keep going.
How long did you taper and from what? @kevk741
My prayers go out to you
@@eleecesanders7342 I really (only) had two meds in the mix the two last times I came off medications. Klonopin + Methadone (for pain). I discontinued the Methadone nine months before the benzo, but my world didn’t entirely separate until the benzo stoppage. I had made 3 quick taper CT attempts in the Fall of 2018/Spring 2019 and ended up reinstating both drugs ever lower and then trying to jump again a few months later. I made my jump from Methadone on Sept 2019 and my jump from Klonopin in May 2020.
Note: most of my worst symptoms erupted month and months off the medication. I believe tardive neurological symptoms coming off daily opiates are way more common than they make it look. Just like antidepressants. I believe tardive symptoms coming off after years of cumulative use are being missed. I believe half of opiate use disorder is lower level akathisia and anhedonia. I believe opiate users are getting akathisia from being Narcan’d. I believe a lot of things now. I believe once hurt, you are prone to akathisia coming back. The only difference now is that I know that I’m right.
I found a lot of my physical trauma from meds was requiring renal recovery, and digestive treatments. I won't get into the details, but I found a naturo-path MD that had both training. Saved my life really.
It can be really difficult to persevere through each disappointment or unsuccessful attempt.
Keep seeking help and finding what works for your healing. We are our own first and best advocate if capable to be!
Sad bro. They really fucked us with these meds cause they felt like that was the only option .😊
Something you said just described exactly what I go thru if I try to nap…TERROR SURGE. I try to describe to others what it’s like. It’s not when it’s dark out and I go to sleep. It’s just trying to rest any other time of day. I can’t even start to drift off without insane thoughts going through my brain and then a gasp and jolt! I’ve been on about 17 different meds and went through ECT. Please, please tell me more if you can. Your words are the closest I’ve come in 2 years to describe the feeling. I came out of it all 2 years ago but I believe I have more hidden, lasting symptoms.
Thank you for sharing,
Natalie
❤ keep on keeping on. You know you're not alone.
Best wishes, sweetie : )
I can relate. Went through benzo withdrawal a few years ago. The feeling of terror and the physical symptoms along with the thoughts of doom and gloom are just about unbearable at times. Time and self care seemed to be the BIGGEST factors for my own healing along with appropriate supplements. A slow taper is also HUGE, probably the biggest factor next to time. If you can, research supplements to help with withdrawal. ALWAYS consider any current medical conditions and interactions first. Just because something is a supplement, it can interfere oftentimes with psych drugs. SSRI's mixed with certain supplements can induce serotonin syndrome, etc. So treat possible interactions seriously, do your research! I'm not a doctor but what I found helpful through my own research was N-acetyl cysteine, Magnesium, and valerian root. 💙
That is encouraging. @@JenErin29
Hi Natalie. Me too
What’s the first one?
Matt, your comment at minute 23:00 about how "people don't need to be drugged into oblivion" was so spot on and exactly what I was saying the entire time I was being detained in the psych ward against my will after a psychotic episode following the starting and stopping of Prozac and ketamine. I somehow managed to decline all meds and told the psychiatrists that the people were all over-medicated and mis-medicated. Of course they didn't like me at all. I started convincing other patients to decline meds and then I was sent home. They care about only two things : drugging people into oblivion and money. Im so terribly sorry for your experience. I've had a similar one and there is a way out with Brain Saver Protocols. Its all natural and works amazingly to repair damage that has been done by these pharmaceutical monsters.
Wow... do tell people more about the Brain Saver Protocols; I have never heard of it and I can see that people are desperate for any relief; maybe this is it...
@@elizabethabbott2982 trust me!! I tell everyone I meet and I even called Dr. Josef's office and told them I would do an interview and asked them to tell everyone about this. I tell people every day, all day. Its the only thing that matters to me after what I experienced. I get very triggered because so many of my friends died at the hands of bad doctors and pharmaceuticals. Its a lot of work and discipline but if you want to heal badly enough, you do it
In the 90’s I worked in a community mental health setting and at the time the conventional wisdom was if a depressed person was given an antidepressant and then experienced a mania or manic state that meant they were actually bipolar. When the most obvious variable was the medication. I cannot believe that 30 years later this propaganda is still being promoted. So glad to have found your channel Dr Josef and so happy this young man found his way back to health.
Yes!! Still happens today. I’ve seen it.
Brilliant guest. Spot on. My bestie was badly bi polar, had akathesia and committed suicide 3 months later. He was a dentist. His brother, a doctor, was the most egotistical, disconnected, narcissistic, controlling, ignorant dickhead who took over the family dynamic that was disdainful and intolerant of my friends illness. That was October 2nd 1995, RIP Ciaran.
He really had no support. I couldnt cope with it. All he needed was one good, understanding friend. Mea Culpa Etiam.
I went through very serious opiote withdrawl after years of using and then later I went through benzo withdrawl and benzo is by far the worst. I had mini strokes, I had seizures ended up in the hospital unable to speak, forgetting how to speak only being able to write things down to communicate. My head was jerking back non stop in the hospital they didn’t know how to treat me and basically kicked me out while In my mind I genuinely thought I was mentally handicapped standing there at the exit door of the hospital feeling literally helpless wanting to walk into traffic just to make it stop. I’ve never been able to stop benzos entirely because the severity of the symptoms are just too dangerous to me and I have tried and tried to quit for 20 years now it’s just a never ending battle of trauma
by far, benzo withdrawal is many times worse than opiate withdrawal. been through both several times in my life. actually, experiencing benzo withdrawal for two days back in 2011 was a catalyst for me being able to easily kick my 12 year opiate dependence because I realized it was like a "walk in the park" compared to benzo withdrawal. haven't touched an opiate since June 2011. My battle with benzos unfortunately continued until 2017, but eventually got through those as well. Almost didn't make it, though. Wishing you all the best and hope you'll one day be able to break free of those shackles.
What I've learned is when the message says dial 911 for a psychiatric emergency. DON'T DO IT
True!
Why, did you wind up in an automatic 72 hr hold?
51/50
Also cops may shoot you
The poor patient may appear menacing or may legitimately be angry; why would they not; I sure would be furious if I was suffering like that and the docs did not seem to understand.@@Native722
Most likely the suffering individual will lose their life. 75% shot by cops.
Wow!!!! Matt is one of the best guests I’ve seen on a channel like this! His thorough descriptions of adverse reactions, problems amongst medical professionals and even personal lessons learned was so captivating!!! 👏 Whatever his calling is, he has the potential to make an insurmountable impact on victims of psychiatry. Don’t stop Matt!!! Please!!
And Witt-Doerring, this channel is one of a kind!!! Thank you!!!
You’re giving me hope!
Agree.
It’s all recognized, electrocuted , aka , is a living hell . It’s torture. They don’t have a clue .. we need acknowledgment and spread the awareness . WorldTaperingDay . Thank you for this interview 🙏
How can doctors still prescribe the Benzos when so much evidence suggests they are risky.
I saw the arrogance and inhumane treatment my daughter as well as other patients were being treated in the psych ward. When my daughter had protrated withdrawl they said it was my fault (because I didn't like the drugs) and was causing her "brain damage" every time she would get off the drugs. They didn't see the drugs as causing the brain damage.
I love this kid he’s so well spoken and puts it very well. They did that to me in 1995. I spent 11 days in the psych ward at 26 years old it was a nightmare and I didn’t comply because I knew they were killing me with drugs. These drugs are evil and have evil spirits in them. I’m a child SB survivor and severe complex ptsd , plus adhd with autism. They tried to say I was bipolar when I wasn’t. The medication made me crazy.
Still On klonopin for anxiety and nightmares but almost off now 28 years on klonopin ugh .. a micro dose. Praying to go completely off soon.
❤
🙏💓🙏
The U.S. mental health industry is all about creating lifetime customers. How much can the doctors, pharma companies, pharmacies, etc extract from each patient during the course of their lives? This is why there is a "disorder" and a "cure" for pretty much every state of being human. For me the absolute most difficult and trying periods of my life were a result of overcoming the long term side effects and withdrawals from the very medications that were supposed to make life easier. I can tell by watching this channel that there are millions of others who've had similar experiences.
So sad to see young people injured by drugs like this! Rather than confronting with life's realities they are told they are not normal and they should take drugs. Who decided the things would be so easy! ❤🎉😢 Well done young man. You are helping other people to come out!
Does Matt have a TH-cam channel? His story/path resonates with mine a lot. Particularly feeling life on ADs just wasn't right... despite doctors telling me I'd be on them for life. Hellish years of wd now slowly thawing out. I've been off all psychiatric meds since 2021.
Good for you. I’m sorry you have to go through this like Matt and so many others. I can’t imagine the hell. You are on the right track. Try to eat a very very clean diet. Then fast on and off. Meditation and breathing correctly. Pray to God and play 528 hz music while you sleep. God Bless you and keep going. You will get better and better
I relate to this young man's story about psychiatric hospital stay. My adult son was assaulted while in the hospital. His face had multiple fractures and he had a concussion. I don't think That really helped his trauma. I was so angry. We need better mental health care facilities.
Thankyou for sharing, Matt. May you be completely free of psych meds and their tortuous withdrawal effects as soon as you are able - in the mighty name of Jesus Christ, who is the Great Physician … I am praying for your complete recovery. Never give up on the journey of being free and back to yourself one day!!!
Omg him explaining looking pregnant and benzo belly i remember going through that same process it was brutal. Not being able to stand up straight feeling like my back was broken, diarrhea, etc feeling like I was being shocked over and over, definitely pacing non stop back and forth oooof just thinking about it brings back ptsd
I have seen adverse reactions to someone having an accidental rapid withdrawal from Benzos; I never heard of Benzo Belly... that is a new one for me... but... the horrors of my friend withdrawing I will never forget. It was not his fault...
What did you do to fix your stomach? I have that now from taking benzodiazepines under a doctor’s care.
I almost died from benzodiazapines.. I only took them off and on for 6 weeks prescripted for sleep while I had a virus. I knew about the fourth week that something was going wrong so I stopped them shortly after and I went to hell. I never knew these drugs could do such damage. It's been 10 years now and finally I'm healing. My experience was indescribable and I truly almost didn't make it. 😢
10 years. I also took 2 weeks with 4 weeks rapid tapper , 2 years off . How did you last 10 years? Did you take other meds during this time?
@@Ioana3065 it was extremely hard.. I almost didn't make it. And no I didn't take any other meds after that, not even otc meds.. I met a girl going through the same thing and her and I saved each other's life basically.. I haven't taken any meds of any kind for 10yrs and never will. I wear a medical alert bracelet now that says " fatal reaction to all OTC/ prescription drugs " .
@@Ioana3065yeah there has to be a lot more to that than just the one explanation of the benzos because I don't even truly believe that it was benzo withdrawal I believe it had something to do with any type of genetic deformation possibly from the virus or another cocktail of meds that are not described here
Thank you so much for this interview and everything you @re doing. You are saving lives and doing humanity a wonderful service and a voice to milloins of people who have been horribly oppressed
I love all your metaphors that give life to what can't be described. What a great guest. Matt, thank you. So much. For your wonderful heart and generosity.
PS: I think we need to slow the roll on the “we all heal” part of this and leave remove for the people who don’t heal or those who have declined or died. My partner has been suffering from akathisia since 2009, even 2001 depending. Her brother lost his life from Effexor in 4 months. No meds before, 39 yr. old psychiatric nurse, 4 kids, beautiful wife and home.
Sure, I know people who have improved, but some are over a decade (even 35 yrs off) and still suffer immensely. It’s fine to be positive about trying to heal from brain injury, but let’s treat it like it is one. There is a permance for some of us. People aren’t going to get compensation if they think we go back the way we came? I’ve been doing this since 1993 and my partner 2001. At what point are we calling this the “other side”?
Agreed.
yup, went through intense withdrawal in 2007 after 13 years on the poison Klonopin. was doing well for about 5 years got cancer and ended up crashing hard Ns back on for 4 years now off 3.5 years and i’ve been diagnosed with peripheral and autonomic neuropathy and my neuro is pretty well convinced the 17 years of benzos out of 25 have tragically changed my brain and CNS/ANS … i’ve get less thing s year to live and am 57 … F**k big pharma and Drs ignorance …. i own the years after the internet and slowly realizing i was dependent and terrified of getting off … for good reason these poisons KILL tons to people and if you get out it’s unlikely you will ever be the same again sadly.
IM 67. This is my third try to wean off. Im doing this totally alone. My family have never been supportive, but its lack of understanding on their part. My friends at this age only want me when Im 'fun'. They have no idea. This is the last try, after over 30 years of the worst pharmacutecles. Im scared shitless to do this alone. One way or another though these drugs are going to kill me in the long run. And its been one hell of a long run. To think it all started from childhood trauma of being sexually abused by a family member you love and think you can trust.
I hope you get some help from somewhere and feel better soon 🙏
This interview helped me so much. I love the wisdom and eloquence this was explained. Totally relate. Thank you Dr. And Matthew! 💜💜
Edit: Just FYI if you have akethesia walking in nature helps. If you go alone go on paths and in parks around some people though. But nature really helps focus your mind on it and you feel better sometimes. It helped heal me through a month of it in the past. ❤ I’m an avid hiker and nature lover now. I had so many good thoughts there that helped and God does reveal himself and his live through it. ❤
I had very similar experience that Matt had. Eg prozac made my extremely depressed and tired. Seroquel gave me the worse insomnia and anxiety. And I was told it is not possible, the problem was me. Being off now, my sleep is slowly improving but still dealing with protracted withdrawal and damage that I am not sure would ever heal. Seroquel caused paralytic ileus which necessitated most of my colon to be removed, plus all the endo & metabolic issues. There are no words to really describe the horror of psych drugs.
😢 oh dear, that is awful! Sorry to hear about your colon.
I feel I can relate.
I had renal failure in process from 3 meds that should "never be combined", before being prescribed seroquel for a 230 lb man, as an underweight 28 yr old. I was unwittingly involved in a experimental study to advance Seroquel for off label use, which they were particularly interested quakifying for PTSD.
I have cPTSD and was never disabled before my first antidepressant for reporting having a panic attack to my University Psychiatrist.
Recovering my digestion to eat solid foods, took approximately 5 years.
First year, coffee enemas were my friend, along with prescribed supplements, probiotics, and protein shakes for 3 years.
Still do exercises when needed for the hiatal hernia I wound up with. Now when I read renal failure I see "organs seeking nearest exit to leave the body".
Took 15 years to get approval for a hemorrhoidechtomy, by then I was stage 4, (last year).
Now I have stupidly debilitating sleep complications since the surgery. 🙄😑
They know not what they do.
They do love to talk down to me, act like I am a cautionary patient, as soon as I explain my medical history.
I had ileus. Sorry yours ended up with surgery. There will be court cases over this soon.
yes for all you guys have gone through; I hope you win a million dollars apiece. May the saints preserve you as they used to say in the old days. @@eugene54547
Weird body pain: a feeling of dark toxicity, actually indescribleable all over, strange electric stuff sort of like a type of electrocution, sort of like the need for a seizure that keeps going, very intolerable, such strange feelings in the head especially the eyes maybe like there is electricity going crazy running around the head. All energy and focus in the head like the head is
cut off from the rest of the body.
Dark presenses and insane foreboding fear all the time. Intense burning at the top of the head. Strange emotions and feelings in and on the face that are not your own. Horrible demonic energy that is biting and electric on the upper back. Have to keep moving, can never relax, if I do relax great fear overwhelms.
The worst of the worst was (early on) that any thought I had was a searing pain like bright laser light shining into my brain. This was when laying down to sleep and I out of desperation trained myself to not think, I had to and it was hard. Anywhere I touched my body with my hand was emotional pain that was intolerable (this was only a few weeks). Also most of what I hear others say. And more.
I am past this and doing well. It is possible.
Things that helped. Love myself. I didn't share any of this with doctors. (Lorazapam, and early on propanenal and zyprexa are the only drugs involved) walking daily around a lake very slowly as that was all I could manage. I began eating meat, was a vegetarian for decades when the trouble started. Drank clay water first thing in the morning, half a tsp of quality edible clay in glass of water. Never gave up, enjoyed the simple things, like when the symptoms backed off, or eating a piece of fruit. Jinn shin jutsyu. When it felt like a seizure was coming (and never did) I would put one hand on the back of my neck and the other on my tailbone. This made it more tolerable. I have a ton of jinn shin tips too many to list. There are books and websites.
One interesting point is I was down to 1/4 mg of lorazapam, for years and could not get off. I had never heard of micro-taper. A bad situation happened and i lost my home and began living out of my old car. Within one month i was able to get off. One month after struggling for years. When i go to sleep there are no frequencies. No electricity. I turn my cell phonee off and wrap in aluminum foil. No smart meters, no neighbors WiFi. My nervous system is able to finally relax... a bit more. I had been on lorazapam since 2003 on and off. I did not realize the weird symtoms were associated. Went back and forth from 1 mg to 1/4 mg to 1 and 1/2 mg. Until about 2016 I settled on 1/4 mg until summer of 2021 when I became homeless and a month later off. My whole body can feel the difference at night, no longer in a large apt complex but rather my old car in an isolated rural type area. First year symptoms were bad but getting better all the time. I am 68 years old and now on no medications.
Thank you for describing all your symptoms in such a descriptive way. Many of them resonated with me.
Thank you for sharing, Akathisia almost cost me my life a year ago. Its pure torture, I shouldn't be here, but I made it. Many people had acute akathisia like me, within 2 days. Can you talk about this sometime?
What did you take?
Agoraphobia🚫⚠️
I hid !
When We had a new patio put in.
I hid .
When my daughter in-law came out to visit.
I hid .
When my second granddaughter was being born.
I hid.
When someone knocked on the door
I hid .
I had all the windows covered and all the doors locked for 4 years.
When my daughter passed away,
I was still hiding.
When my mother passed away
she had no words to say.
I hadn't seen her in 7 years
I was even too afraid to answer
the phone.
When my oldest daughter needed me,
She was going into surgery.
I hid 💔
I was hiding.
When I thought I was having a heart attack. ..
I hid from everything and everyone.
Not by choice,
this is what the medication had done.
Agoraphobia, nervous system injury,
brain damage....
iatrogenic injury ⚠️💔
Why ?
Well, you see...
I took my medication as prescribed.
It was supposed to help me sleep
but,
it gave me agoraphobia instead.
I wasn't able to sleep again for 4 years
let alone leave the house.
I was a prisoner of my own
mind and body.
Consumed by
the worst Terror and physical pain
you could ever imagine.
This pharma injury is truly inhumane.
Years later I'm still trying to recover.
I tried so desperately to explain
what what's happening to me .
But it fell on deaf ears .
all I received was disbelief.
So I hid.
Because I knew,
their idea of helping me
would have ended me.
I know that sounds dramatic.
But ,
their idea of help is to give me more
of the same poison " medication "
that did this to me.
And since my pleas had fallen
on deaf ears.
I had to hide.
To save my life !
Do you know what your medication is capable of ?
I'm so sorry of what you experienced Matt in the psych wards because the medical community is suppose to be there to help people. The way I describe the akathisia to others feels like all your insides are trying to get or crawl out so the pain and mental symptoms just stop! Thank you both for doing these interviews and advocating for the people❤
Matt thanks for your truthful story keep fighting for your health. You deserve it friend. A friend from Canada
I agree with Matt. My son wanted to start on some med because he felt
awkward meeting new people ! I told him there'd be something wrong if he
DIDN'T feel awkward ! I gave him a crash course on Big Pharma and being
a smart kid, he listened & learned. Vit.D3 took care of my depression.
I’ll be on my benzo until I die after watching these.
Can't blame you one bit!
Oh, ditto! I've been on klonopin for THIRTY FREAKING YEARS. I can't even taper a half milligram for one day. I pay horribly for it. The sick part is I'm being blamed for "always having to up the dose!!"
@@aprildawnmeans2663 you can lower the dose if you believe it Or even skip a day … it’s mind over matter.. not necessarily go off but this is the truth… I’ve been on klonopin 28 years, still am but now on .125 originally I was on .75. It’s possible I just had to believe it.
@@aprildawnmeans2663
Same here. I’ve been prescribed Klonapin for about 10 years now, I’m 64 years old and have lung issues. I don’t think I would live through the withdrawal. Seriously. Why do they keep giving people these drugs. I was only having trouble sleeping when I was prescribed these pills, if I had known what they do I’d have just dealt with the (temporary) insomnia. Jesus Christ have mercy on all of us.🙏♥️
@@aprildawnmeans2663aA half mil of tritiation water is doable. It would be much easier with water tritiation. I was able to drop 2 mil a day in water. It takes more time, but it’s withdrawal free.
This guest is SO INSIGHTFUL!! I am getting sp much out of this interview. Thank you for posting!!
I've been off paxil for years now, thank goodness, but starting it was the most terrifying experience I have ever been through. Far worse than the original symptoms for which it was prescribed, PTSD. I am a grandma now, watching others go through their own struggles. Before internet I would comb shelves at the library looking for different perspectives. Mad in America is a book that remains prominent in my mind. In recovery rooms we say you're only as sick as your secrets.
I'm loving your channel!!! Too much medicalizing of practically all health conditions across the board, but especially with the psychotropic meds, and it seems to start with our kids....It has to stop!!!
For those in protracted over 10 years ... I'm so sorry. 😥
Dear Matt....if you are reading this I want you to know you saved my life. I have been thinking about suicide for the past 5 months because of the horrific existence I have been living through. I related to every single word you said. It could have been me being interviewed. Just knowing there is a chance of recovering is good enough for me and I now have hope. No one believed me when I told them I have not slept for days and I even went to the ER due to lack of sleep. I thought I was the only person who is dealing with this type of injury. I am so screwed right now because without alcohol or benzos I have no chance at sleep. My anxiety level is a 10 at night and bedtime is the worst part of the day for me. Lack of sleep has caused me so much pain I can barely take care of myself. As I said I was at the jumping point and ready to end it but after watching this video I have a glimmer of hope that I will recover. My other option is to just stay on benzos the rest of my life ( I turn 62 in July) and if that is what is needed to keep my anxiety in check and sleep at night then so be it. It's better to be on medication and alive versus off medication and taking my life. I am so confused and also so very grateful to God I stumbled on this video. I feel like you are truly are the only person on this planet that understands what I am dealing with. I am so happy you made it through the darkest of times. You are an inspiration to so many people. You should write a book because your story needs to be heard. You would be on Oprah your story is so powerful. I am going to check out the intercompass group now which you mentioned in the interview. So thanks for that info. And thank you Dr Josef for the most important YT video I have ever watched. I am going to reach out to your practice as well to see if you may be able to help me. I hope everyone watching this video has a sense of hope and your life is getting better.
I love you all🙏.
Matt, you seem to be in such a profound state of grace. I so appreciate how you express your experience (both with words and the embodied wordless terror) and the tragic sequence of events. Harm was done and seemingly no responsibility taken by those prescribing these incredibly dangerous medications. I'm livid too. Keep shining your light bright. 🙏
Thank you Matt for your story. I have been on a benzo for 4o years, yes 40 years. I completely understand every thing you have been through and continue to go through. I have had trials of tapering and the symptoms are barberic. I was 20 and I didnt know what this drug was, it only stopped my extreme anxiety. Despite all I am a nurse . Retired now. I feel like my cognition, memory and neurological damage is now evident to family and friends.How I wished I would have never walked into a mental health clinic. I am so very proud of you!
Wow dr Joseph you are such a voice for these people who are suffering from this. Thank you for be so patient and give them a space to talk about it.
So must wisdom in this video
Subbed immediately, due to your brief concise natural intro, and M really was a great guest, straight away he explained things in a way i related to, about sensitivity. I think that there ate precursors we only realise about later (if we have been left to our own devices as kids and teens despite our clear anxieties and otherness.
I hope you both know that you are helping a lot of people viewing this. Keep going when y’all are able to but rest when u need to and a lot of it 💎💖🌷🥰🐉🔥🔥🇨🇦🙋🏻♀️
Sheit. I accidentally injested marijuana cake at a college party some 45 years ago and had an incredible psychedelic trip where the music playing produced amazing images and sounds in my head. I was told that this is not possible with the pot. I always thought the cake must have been laced with other drugs. But like Matt I may just be extremely sensitive to chemicals. I had repeat hallucinations for years after that. I never touched drugs before or after that. This is a good insight that Matt put out there
Well done Matt, so proud of you
100% agreed - demonising of negative emotions are so wrong
My son also has the extremely extended abdomen looks like hes pregnant. I really hope he gets out of there soon and gets some real help.
Wow. I’m doing a video on benzo belly soon. I hope your son gets help.
@@taperclinicMy psychiatrist never told me that weight gain could be a side effect!
I gained 60 pounds in about three years while taking 0.5 mg of Klonopin twice a day. A small dose but it has caused a huge weight gain. I am chronically fatigued all the time. I sleep a lot, 10 to 12 hours. I wake up feeling exhausted. I barely have enough energy to walk one block much less exercise. Fruit smoothies, salads and eating a low fat, low sodium diet has helped me lose 15 pounds but I am still exhausted and very bloated.
The forged in fire feeling is very real. Thats how i got to where i am after over 100 surgeries. Its otherworldly, perfect words to describe this. God bless everyone going through this.
I can’t believe he didn’t suicide!😳😳😳I have experienced 1/40th of his symptoms and I feel like I have been tortured!! Trapped on the meds that were torturing him but knowing he couldn’t get off them. Can’t imagine the akathisia. I have a very mild case and it’s so so awful!
I know; during an episode triggered by a doctors mistake my pal went into ultra rapid cycling at its peak the mood swings were just four minutes apart: good -bad... to and fro; exhausting for us both but life threatening for him; doc and social worker did not return my calls for help; finally it was the police who helped as in his desperation he took to running on the RR tracks; contemplating suicide. I am still so disturbed that a patient would be put through that, and the powers that be denied any responsibility.
Yup. I agree
I feel Matt’s pain.
I’m also a highly sensitive empath, my metabolism can’t process caffeine, nicotine, alcohol or any type of stimulates, cosmetics, perfumes or lotions.
I’ve suffered from insomnia and anxiety since age 12.
Faith in God and self care, vegetarian diet has helped me cope.
you raise a very important point namely each persons metabolism is different and they will react in different ways; that is why prescribing meds is not yet a fine art.
They doubled down. You want to know how this plays out.
1. I'm the doctor, how dare you question my knowledge.
2. I prescribe this stuff every day, how dare you question my knowledge of these drugs
3. You are the patient, I am the doctor
4. Everything is filtered through these diagnosis
5. Having to take them to get out of the pysch ward.
Crazy but absolutely true stuff
This guy is so brave and so wise. Very great and eye-opening to list to his testimony. Thank you 🙏🏼 ❤
Dear Jesus, please heal us all who are suffering!
Bawling still as I realize how little is understood about individual responses to Prozac and pamelor, Zyrtec, tramadol, ..a decade of horrors and suicidal ideation..
To the point where others, (pastors etc) testify against getting free of the drugs...
As he said, "needed to be on"
.today, fifty years later, drug free and leaning on Jesus" Spirit for clarity, overcoming, patience, acceptance of the moment and believing God is present.
The pain is real. I am so sorry this young man was wounded by that system.
I had akathisia for a couple of years after coming off Lexapro too fast, combined with taking Xanax on and off for several months while trying to deal with the antidepressant withdrawal. The way I describe it is like being microwaved at low power all day. Some people pace because it's that kind of inner energy, but I also was experiencing extreme dread and terror at the same time, so I couldn't move, I was frozen in terror. This would start every morning around 4am, I would be slammed awake by these inner sensations like clockwork. For the first few months of withdrawal, I couldn't sleep at all, so this started when I was able to get some sleep. Like Matt, for several years I would wake all through the night soaking wet. I also have a list of symptoms that's very long, all these symptoms would spiral around and around in a wave like kind of pattern, in the evenings I got a little relief. For 2 years, there was no improvement at all, but then I started getting a day here and there where I didn't feel quite so bad. Something very strange about this condition for me was the way the symptoms would sometimes stop and start at random times. One afternoon I had dragged myself out of the house to do some grocery shopping, I was feeling awful, as usual and just wanted to get it done so I could get back home, I was waiting in line at the check out and suddenly it was like a switch was turned and I felt normal, perfectly fine, I was relieved and thought that whatever was wrong with me was finally over. But a few hours later the symptoms came back. It's taken the best part of 10 years to recover enough so that I can function almost normally again. But I've been left with a CFS type condition, so I have to pace myself, limit stress and live a very simple life most of the time now.
Thank you for your exceptional insight and honesty. I have great empathy for you, Matt. Thank you for addressing 'Benzo-belly'. I suffer from this problem, too. Yes, it is painful and completely disruptive to a person's life. Heightened awareness of senses, me too. Light and sound are too intensive. I hear sounds that no one else hears. Taste and smell, completely intensified. Akathisia is exhausting, mentally and physically. Been there, still doing it.
Matt, you're brilliant. As I'm hearing you at about 1 hour and 20 minutes in, you're acknowledging that, yep, life can be hard. The only way out is through. That society sets us up (in many ways) to fall into this trap! I have to say to you, I'm so sorry for all that you've gone through and are still going through. Sending you healing energy and gratitude, gratitude to both you and Dr Josef!, for all the help that you're passing along to those coming behind you who've perhaps fallen into the trap. Blessings!❤🎉🎉🎉 Blessings and continued healing to you.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. Your description of your journey is so articulate and accurate. I was never able to explain what I was going through and you put my thoughts into words. I shared this with my family and I am hopeful that it will help them understand the last few years of my life.
Reminds me of weaning off anti-seizure meds. Every 3rd or 4th night sleep is still an issue, after 10 years.
Poor Matt you really have been through the ringer.I hope you feel better in the future.
My psychiatrist prescribed Latuda. He watched me develop akathisia and upped the dose! I took myself of this.
Thank you so much for having this young man on, what he said about drug side affects is spot on, every time my children had side affects from shots they were given I was told it was hereditary, like it was my fault my kids were getting sick from their poison. All drugs are witches brew, don’t get me wrong trauma care-fine, pain meds when we break our leg is needed, but pills will never make someone healthy, only purification, and food is poison too, so if we truly want to be better we must eat Whole Foods but anyway, so nice seeing a young person speak truth!!
Truth.❤
I gave up sugar years ago; correct me if I am wrong but it is related to diabetes? and diabetics it seems may have some emotional issues... I dont know much about it but I would like to see what if any role diet plays in moods.
Ty great interview. Eye opening. One word for AKATHESIA IS HELL. I have neuro injury and still drs insist I take drugs. I micro dose benzo but I WANNT OUT.
this is my 3rd Dr Josef interview about this general topic in a row. I'm trembling at this point because it's triggering my anxiety to hear all these super familiar stories. I've been meds free for 10 years and don't really have many panic attacks anymore since ending treatment (it happens but not all day everyday like before)... so listening to these stories, relating to them... it's crazy how it affects you. I'll be fine eventually it's just a thing I deal with; after 20 years I'm confident in saying it won't be me that takes me out.. but I wanted to say I think these discussions need to be brought to a wider audience. Thank you for your work Dr. J
Ive had 30 years of this hell on earth
I hate the way the psychiatric system has disease-ified all of these human experiences . Yep that just about sums it up, don’t face your problems swallow your feelings with a pill
This young man sounds sane and also sensitive, which i think is beautiful.
He is very reflective, self aware, introspective, cautious, honest, genuine.
This is a very valuable video of a young man fucked over by the meds and the psychiatric system.
Psychiatry makes someone sick and you get worse each time you get involved with this system.
There is no cure to be expected in those environments.
I am so relieved, glad that this man has more balls and analising virtues.
Stay away from this places, meds, psychiatrist who are not interrested in your wellbeing.
Pharma is a very huge machinery who never sleeps and wants only $$$ and power/control and loves experimenting with people who at the end convert to living crazy lunatics and zombies, who deteriorate physical/psychological/morally/socially, until people are a shell of themselves.
They never really talk to you as a human to human, but see you as a number, a statistic.
Please, stay away from psychiatric institutions and meds.
Start eating very well with dense nutrients, go keto/carnivore, walk in nature, do exercise, have a goal in life, talk to people who really care and who are sane.
I hope you get there.
Life is not easy and planet earth is harsh, but you have to have a purpose in life.
This man is high sensitive and that is good too.❤
So articulate. I am proud of you.
Absolutely right about how people respond differently. In 2010 two high level athletes both friends of mine had a wild reaction to the same anti depressant, Cipralex, (not sure I spelt that right) just weeks apart; they did not know each other. Highly over excited they ran round wildly, naked, until police picked them up. As your guest said there was a comic aspect along with the tragedy, as the police, carrying a blanket to wrap them up decently, had a hard time catching up with them... The police were very good with them although they did not know the history they realized these people were not at fault; they could not control themselves. I emailed an American doctor I had met years ago and asked him if a persons metabolism could influence how they would process a med as both were tremendously athletic. He emailed back with YES and said he was going to bring it up at a meeting the next day. Personally I think a patient should be in hospital under observation when a new med is being introduced or a dosage changed. I say this because although the docs say Call If There Is A Problem.... a person in a manic state does not know they have a problem. Families should be alerted to possible side effects. Really, lives are at risk.
Thanks for posting these anecdotes, I ditched Ativan and Zoloft after three weeks.
Everything you've have spoke on, I have gone through and I am still going through it. I can't eat like I use to. Terrible pain just under the breast bone, lots of gas and severe bloating. I went from 105 lbs down to 87 lbs. My diet is so very limited and it is so scary. Yes, there is like a terrible pressure and it's like your whole abdominal area feels like it's on fire. I get injections of steroids into my abdomen to help with the pain and the fire in the abdomen. I was on Clonazepam for over 30 plus years and it was not a successful ordeal. The GP put me back on it and I am better but still have benzo belly with all that horrible burning pain. Everything you have said, I have experienced and still experience. I am grateful that I can function to more of a capacity then when I was off but my life has become very small compared to before they tried taking me off it. I am alive but it is like hell the majority of the time. I am so hungry and all I want to do is eat the way I use to. I am not a young person and I will not come off this drug again. I almost died the first time and it was really scary. It was the most traumatic thing I've ever gone through in my life and I had a horrible life growing up even into my adulthood. There have been many times I have wanted to just die/kill myself because it's so awful even now. I lean on Jesus to help me through. I don't have anyone to help me and the doctors don't get it or understand. It's a literal nightmare.
Also the pharmacist said to me don’t go on TH-cam lol. And he goes by the guidelines hahaha
I can not believe what im learning on this channel from others, this is amazing and so sad...I completely relate with EVERYTHING this man is explaining ,EVERYTHING...everytime i tried getting off any of these meds. I beat the benzos but the thought that i have 3 more meds to go is exhausting to think of. It actually scares me.
You are talking my language. Yes, affirmative, I concur, thank you.
I will overcome.
God please help me
Praying for you Riley. Keep asking Jesus for help,he will show you the way. God bless you.❤
He will.❤
I’ll pray for you. 🙏❤️
Thank you all. By the grace of God I.made it through.. I've found my way back to.myself. The akathesia has stopped and Ketamine and MDMA cured me of the accompanying anhedonia, suicidality, and agoraphobia. I'm beyond grateful to have my life back.
He is brave for speaking up. I wish he could answer the Dr.'s questions a little more in depth. Dark thoughts, etc. But everyone speaking up deserves a medal of honor.
Something Matt said that really hit home after my roller coaster ride as a psychiatrist's guinea pig 'negative emotions are demonized'. Yes! That was my experience when in fact negative emotions are part of a human's emotional spectrum. I agree when they become a standard baseline in an individual that that is not healthy. But there are times when anxiety and fear are healthy - imagine if you didn't feel them, you'd be thinking you can let a venomous snake or swim during an electric thunderstorm holding a long metal pole or something daft. The same for sadness - it's telling you something, grief, the morbs all of them are important self communicators. This past December I went on an SSRI because I'm almost fully menopausal and was feeling low and tearful. I lasted only just over a week on them and it was a low dose (a generic of Prozac). On the one week mark I couldn't sleep at all. I'm an active dreamer, for me that dreaming during sleep is the equivalent of flushing a psychological toilet. I started sweating like demon, I had a wide eyed psychotic look, I had terrible nausea and a pain in the inside of my left arm (was convinced I was having a heart attack). I stopped them - I'd rather have the morbs than that. And when I sat to think a bit: I was tired, it had been a busy year, it was the first year going to work and going home with no lockdowns. I put in for two weeks leave over Christmas, ordered a series of Midsommer Murders and the classic of Porridge with Ronnie Barker to look forward to and that did the trick.
And you are such a bright man... you've created a path on this horrible experience. Hats off to you Matt !
How do you know you have akathsia?
"Sounded like he was making stuff up" i love this guy
This is such a great interview! Thank you Matt for sharing. So many times through this I was like “YES!” this is how I have felt or similar to what I’ve experienced! I’m NOT the crazy one in this situation 😊! Currently tapering from 23 years of medications. Also began working with a functional medicine doctor & found out I have serious deficiencies…of course psychiatrists would never order labs…so working on all aspects of my body to come out the other side! Thank you guys for putting this out!
I don’t have a soul in my life but my two boys aged 27 and 31. Both are busy and don’t get it. My partner died recently and for reasons I won’t bore you with I lost a whole family and set of friends. I have to find a way to do this alone. I don’t know if there is a community here in Melbourne Australia….. Support is everything.
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I'm from Spain, my husband is from Usa. I found nothing in Spanish about this subject, luckily I speak English and I found websites like benzo buddies, Facebook groups, surviving antidepressants..you can find thousands of us all over the world. Is insane how many of us are going through this and still the medical community is in denial, they keep giving this poison like candies and we are indeed alone and only have each others.
In Melbourne, is there a Zen Buddhist meditation centre there? If there is, ask for the Zen monk/teacher Ekai Korematsu. He can teach you the core of Zen practice.
Absolutely right. When you have zero support.
@@LeticiaRodriguezPerez I couldn’t agree more.
Yes, I always refer to as like being in worse then Hell. And yes “a normal level of anxiety pales in comparison”. Thank you for sharing your story. It’s helping many not feel alone.