IMO sleep is probably one of the biggest if not the biggest keys to healing and recovery. I used to carry around a grocery bag of supplements to sleep i spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on different supps. The benzo and antidepressant withdrawal insomnia is like being in a pressure cooker with a ticking time bomb attached to it because as each night goes by with little to no sleep the less sane you become and the more desperate you become leading you to make mistakes out of desperation. I would stay awake for 5 days then sleep for 1 or 2 hours except the most cruel thing about it is I would wake up thinking I finally slept but when I checked the time only an hour or 2 went by but it felt like i had slept the entire night its like 8 hours compressed into 2 hours. It took me about 1 and half years to get 4 hours of sleep. Im about 3 years out now and I can sleep 6 to 9 hours no supplements .Thank God What helped me a lot was daily prayer doing extended water fasts eating carnivore diet no processed foods or sugars lots of good clean water. If I needed anything to help fall asleep its warm milk with honey and or chamomille tea. Its better not to use supplements because a lot of supplements mess with your neurotransmitters and mixing them together confuses your nervous system even more because they are synthesized by the same metabolite in your liver. Your brain and nervous system is desperately confused during withdrawal and needs to get back into homeostasis and that takes time and takes what I would describe as a non toxic , supportive healthy environment. For me i kept making the same mistakes going from doctor to doctor because i didn't know better all they were doing were trying to kill me with more pills or basicaslly not believe me. You cannot heal in the same environment which made you sick so if you get sick from pills a doctor gave you then you cant heal from more pills another doctor is going to give you. When it came down to the final straw it was just me and God and that's it. God basically in the simplest terms cocooned me guided me and protected and over time i started healing. God led me to heal but not in the way I wanted but in the way God wanted by basically showing me EVERYTHING wrong about me.
You are helping me stay alive, because of how vulnerable and brave you are. The horror you live on pills is something worse than hell, there's not a word for it yet. It is not human, but I have accepted it somehow. Psych meds have destroyed what I believed to be life.
I know that place intimately. I walked through many days of it. It distorts time. It is a different dimension. It is worse than hell. I am so sorry that you are going through it. But please hold on for the other side of it because life will be better than you can imagine when you heal.
Thanks for the video Matt. Insomnia is my absolute worst symptom. 20 months off alprazolam and still not sleeping much. I hope to get my sleep back someday like you did.
❤ I keep reminding my self to just live one moment at a time. Thanks so much for not being selfish and helping so many of us any way you can. Also please, I love the videos but your volume is so low. Perhaps you can speak into a louder mike or something. That would be awesome!
Hi Matt Thank you for providing wonderful content. I have severe chronic insomnia that started after being placed on klonopin. I was in it for 3 years for chronic anxiety by my Dr. I have been off for 17 months and my sleep has never returned. I know its from the klonopin but Dr wont admit it. Always slept well before. Now the only thing that helps is Lune 3mg. But not all the time. I feel my sleep will never returned. Im 54 and exhausted. May God Bless You
Hey Matt! I recently found your channel and have been really impacted by your story. It's been truly unsettling to hear about the pain/suffering you and others go through as a result of SSRI/benzo withdrawal. I was totally ignorant to this issue prior to watching your videos. I haven't personally dealt with the same situation, but have experienced similar (albeit much less severe) symptoms like agitation, RLS, difficulty sleeping, depression/fear at night, etc. This is just a shot in the dark, but I recently came across some videos on TH-cam that use sound frequencies to calm the brain/body. It sounds kind of trivial, but I was honestly SHOCKED at how effective these sounds are for alleviating my own symptoms. I immediately thought of you and other SSRI/benzo withdrawal sufferers and wondered whether they would be at all effective for your symptoms. If you're interested, I'll put a few links to the videos I've found to be the most helpful below. There is a ton of content like this on the TH-cam channel "Meditative Mind" as well. Best of luck in your healing journey, I'm praying for you! th-cam.com/video/goyZbut_KFY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/uAbUeZfZNOI/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/TxkyFCeWAxs/w-d-xo.html
So refreshing to hear you Matt talking from an highly evolved perspective about this issue as I have seen in your videos. You have gained it not without a price, but also got a life-long source of infinite meaning you can now provide to yourself and to others. Wish you so much luck. Me myself has also been through too fast tapering. now do it crazy slow, and still not easy. I understand you so deep. I have learned to not tell family and friends about symptoms because the only answer is "Then why are you weaning the med 🤦♂️" so i leave it to myself and to people who also going through this. Keep going. You got it!
Thank you for the feedback it means a lot. I’m sorry you’re having to deal with it, but good for you for going really slow. That’s the best way to do it, but it’s frustrating and requires so much patience. You got this! Keep going. Sending love!
My testimony: I “innocently” started to take a hypno-benzo in 2017 due to some bad exam panic/insomnia (even more addictive than regular benzo and from there it spiralled until … Cold turkey and then 4 months of Sertraline. After nearly 2 years of this bs Im not suicidal or psychotic anymore (i didnt have hallucination but my goodness). I have become an old slow lady physically n mentally in the span of a few years…maybe check out spiritual medicines bcos theres always an underlying story beneath all this. Wish u all the best ❤
Thank you for making this video, particularly in response to a request to make it. That last part really helped me as I too could not be convinced that my sleep will ever return to normal, but this video has given me hope. I'm currently knee-deep in the shit, but I am still using the tools of the system (IE drugs). My goal is going to be to get off as many as possible and just stay stable with low doses of what seems to be working with little effect. I'm sure a lot of these videos have given a lot of people hope...
Sis I’m sry you went through that with the ketamine. I’m also off a gabaergic and Prozac and was thinking about ket but I def will stay away so thx for sharing
During the withdrawal your cortisol levels are going to go up whether its from the withdrawal itself or the stress from the withdrawal I dont know but because of that its like 10x harder to sleep because you have the withdrawal and then the insomnia then the cortisol going up from the insomnia and withdrawal causing more insomnia. So its super important to try to lower those cortisol levels and destress as best you can. Accupuncture helps in my experience but only temporarily and can be expensive. But most of all STAY AWAY FROM TOXIC PEOPLE AND TOXIC ENVIRONMENTS. I know you might be desperate but toxic friends and family arent going to help
Hello Matt Thanks for your honesty and courage in sharing your experiences to help others. My son is having similar problems with his psych meds and watching your videos has given me resolve to seek an integrative psychiatrist who can wean him off these chemicals. My son is chemically sensitive, has developed akathisia which none of the hospitalizations or psychiatrists recognized. He was pacing furiously and in terror and anxiety. Their explanation is his anxiety caused the pacing. If experts are ignorant who can you trust? One question, did you ever consider ECT? Thanks for your response.
I’m so sorry your son is going through akathisia. No, I would never consider ECT especially for akathisia. Sadly I have never heard of any treatment being very effective for it, it’s really about surviving it and waiting it out. I have a video about akathisia worth checking out. I’m sending it guys a lot of love.
This had nothing to do with this particular TH-cam video this information I am giving from experience. For anyone who feels suicidal thoughts if you feel it today wait until tomorrow and see how you feel tomorrow before you try and commit it because there is a chance that the following day you will not feel the same after you have rested and also invest in an eyemask to block out light while you rest it makes all the difference. So remember if you feel suicidal ideation wait till the following day I guarantee you will not feel the same way the next day. Don't worry the feelings will come back and every time they do wait until the next day and if you sleep the night before that is a plus
I had to revisit this video. I got a small break of sleeping two better for one and a half nights. Im terrified Matt. I cant go back to sleep because everytime I jolt awake is the existencial fear with the pshycosis and my nervous system cant calm down. The terror of the anticipation of waking up is what Infeel keeps me in the loop. Two nights ago I was shaking uncontrolably about to call 911 when I decided to drink a supplement that has vitamin B12 zinc and magnessium. I took a small zip and it stopped almost immediatly so I took it all. This was when I actually slept. Other times I wonder if I made it worse by everytime I jolted awake I would pop a melatoning and got so sleepy, at times it afforded me a few more minutes asleep but the experiemces while awaking were severe and more disturbing. I stopped the melatoning. Then my throat would itch and Inwould suffocate so I begun poping hallz every minute I woke up. Now I think that actually made it bad too. I am recupeeating from covid and I only slept good one night. I had to take an expectorant and a pain killer for the covid and so my sleep went bye bye again and I was jolted awake with a horrific new sensation that never ends,it never calms down. I avoid it and been awake since. I feel I cant do this anymore. I mean that. I feel like how can I just go through this without any help. Ive taken teas but I dont really know if they make things worse or not. This is long and all over the place but my brain is fried. As a last resort I had taken to try and sleep on the floor outside on my front porch. It worked once. Now it has been a fail. For some reason I cant even stand my bed. I dont even feel my self or know who I am. I feel like in autopilot. Its horrific.
I was like that too. I could not stand my bed. I would nod off and then jerk awake with gut shivers and terror. For 2 years I would get less than 2 hours of sleep. I never yawned. I never felt sleepy. I call them toxic naps because waking was worse than no sleep. But it gets better. Calm returns, terror leaves and sleep comes slowly back into your routine. Started with 4 hours, then 5, now 6 or 7. Once you start sleeping you will gain confidence that this is beginning to end. Light at the end of the tunnel. Hang in there. It gets better.
Hi Matt… Thank you so much for these TH-cam videos. I am actually too sick to write what I really want so my husband may send you an email. I am wondering what your opinion is of using cannabis for pain or sleep. I, like you, am extremely sensitive and have had several setbacks due to having to take antibiotics and from a steroid and lidocaine injection for another chronic pain condition I suffer from along with this horrible , acute protracted withdrawal from being taken off of 4 mg of Klonopin in four weeks and 200 mg of Seroquel discontinued overnight. I have been bedridden for 16 months with so many symptoms. then I get this condition called pudendal neuralgia, which is also one of the most painful, chronic and progressive pain conditions. They also have support groups for this because so many want to end their lives because of the constant intense pain with really no cure. Anyway, I got off track here but I just wondered what your opinion is of using cannabis? Did you ever try it? I am scared too but at the same time I don’t know how much longer I can survive these two torturous conditions at once. Thanks again. 🙏❣️
Hey there. I’m so sorry you’re going through this. My lived experience was really bad with using marijuana/CBD during my withdrawal. It made all of my symptoms way more severe. Unfortunately, a lot of people in this injury find that anything that affects the nervous system in any way causes setbacks. I know it’s horrible to have to sit and wait, but I do think time, rest, and good nutrition are the name of the game. I wish you a speedy recover and I’m sending love ❤️
Everyone is unique. Weed helped me with the nausea. I had lost an extreme amount of weight and getting nutrition was the most important symptom for me to address.
Sorry to hear all you have gone through. I am also on psych meds and want to come off eventually, it’s very corrupt what is happening with psychiatrists. You mentioned that valerian and l thianine supplements didn’t help? Were they high strength and do you think a camomile tea would have a negative affect?
I don’t think the natural supplements are gonna prevent healing but I do know they can make symptoms worse for some people, from experience. That type of stuff affects everyone differently. I’d just suggest caution and trying things one at a time at low doses and working up if there’s no problem. I am not a medical professional, so anything I say is just person to person. Not instructing you to do anything.
@@Heymattmarin hello, thanks for reply. I understand you cannot give medical advice. I was just wondering about chamomile tea as I assume it is weaker than taking a valerian root capsule?
@@XZoZoX2020X chamomile binds to benzo receptors from what I understand. Natural stuff is probably way less dangerous, but I still wouldn’t. I would get way worse symptoms after the sedative effect when I took it.
I'm confused because I was on medical marijuana for a year. 5.5 months off thc ! I thought I had paws from thc! Is paws the same as your nervous system out of whack? There are people going thru weed paws and they take supplements and medication and are still healing. So I'm confused. I'm trying not to take anything. I want to heal. My symptoms are head pressure and tightness. Theres like a ball of anxiety on left side of head. I have restlessness in my body. Dont think its akathisia it's more like restless leg syndrome. I go pee only a tiny bit and it's like every half hour. The pressure in my head makes my neck hurt bad because I have cervical stenosis I also get heart palpitations when I go to bed and o yes depersonalization. Did you get depersonalzation?
I can't say anything for sure, but I think drugs in general have the potential to dysregulate the nervous system long term. All of the symptoms you describe sound like PAWS to me, though I can never say for certain. Please hang in there and keep going. Healing is coming.
I live alone and when I get less than 3 hours of sleep I get very emotion and unstable I’m not even tapering right now due to external factors This is terrifying My brain is injured from COVID to begin with and I got the vaccines and one booster
Matt question, I know you’ve said you had worse depression due to this, does it come in waves, because mine does, and I know due to these meds, do you know what’s up with that. Like why do we have those dang waves?
I don't know why this healing journey is so nonlinear, but I think it's because there's so much damage and dysregulation that our body has to recalibrate a lot of different systems and they kindof take turns. That's what it feels like for me at least.
I’m sorry you’ve been through it too. Yes, my contact info is on my website which is in my bio. I offer coaching/support and hypnotherapy. Email me and we can set something up if you’re interested. Hang in there and keep going ❤️
You often mention gut issues. You're taking some peppermint gells? Not sure where to get those or what they do. Could you do a video on your gut problems? This is a huge iissue for a lot of us but not many know how to deal with it or whats happening in there. Thanks.
Yeah absolutely. Was planning on making one. It’s gonna be a long one, the gut issues have been the longest piece of my journey through this as they started before I even got off the meds. Thanks for the inspo, I’ll make it soon 🙏🏼
@@Heymattmarin Out of the 75 or so symptoms, my gut was up there as the worst. Even now it's still giving me grief. Don't have a clue what to do for it, but my guess is there's nerve damage. I am so happy for the quick response and that you're going to help! Out of all the videos I've seen over the years on drug withdrawal, I relate to you the most.
Matt may i ask you, i take 50mg ssri for morning and 0.5mg benzo in evening for just a week, then now i withdraw for day 3 and i have insomnia, am i safe?
@@Heymattmarin no am not taper off it, it's my first time use it, i just only get that from my psychiatrist just for one week then i imediately found its bad effect, so i take my quit of it, am i safe?
Currently suffering from nocturnal panic attacks that has followed me into my daily life as well. Panic attack on panic attack. It’s only been 4 days but i feel like i’m already going crazy…
Thank you Matt. I sleep in increments , CT since January 20. But I need a sleep routine. I have to lie down around 10 pm even though I’m not sleepy. Then I sleep choppy. Do you need to go sleep at the same time every nite ?
Is your sleep still choppy? or can you sleep uninterrupted? How many hours do you usually get? Can you nap during daytime? My sleep is very choppy and can’t sleep past 4:00am and completely lost me napping capability. It’s been 7 months since I stopped.
@@Comecloser80 if you watch the end of the video I share that I now sleep 6-8 hrs a night uninterrupted. I can nap occasionally, but I also lost that ability and don’t get to do it a lot. It’ll come back though I believe.
I’m going to make a video in the next few days about supplements in general so keep an eye out for it. But magnesium didn’t do much for me personally, might’ve made me worse. Everyone is different though!
I’m in acute. I reinstated. It’s not working. Nothing is working. In such extreme pain and akathesia. Insomnia from hell. Dark thoughts. I’ve been on and off sertraline for twenty years. I made it 14 months off last summer and this happened. Reinstated for three months. Went off for ten months. Thought I was over it. It’s all back worse than ever. I’m 55. I can’t live this way. My original reason for taking was nothing!!! They gave them out like candy. PMS. Mild anxiety. I am heartbroken 💔 angry and so sick
I had never heard of this. Never knew it existed. The doctors totally missed it last summer and this summer because I was so long off. They thought I had some rare disease. Maybe tick born. Tons of tests. Nothing. I finally connected it. Searched SSRI long withdrawal omg!!!! I found my people. So horrible these stories. I know what you suffered Matt. Omg. It’s unreal the level of pain. I am in shock from it. Speechless
I’m being forced down from my benzodiazepines. I’m 56, soon to be 57. And I keep wondering why suffer like this? Why? I’m five years from one grandfather’s death, ten from the other. What have I to gain from this suffering? What? I’m serious. Why?
@@Heymattmarin I see! Well, thanks for sharing. Mine was effexor. I developed extremely dry skin. Good for you for making these videos and the reach they have. You seem like a genuine dude. Keep making them!
hey Matt! i'm going through withdrawals right now because i stopped cold turkey Aug 4. i had the worst insomnia for 2-3 weeks (like i could only sleep for about 30mins-1hr a day) until it got better. i'm able to sleep 4-5hrs a day now. BUT i don't feel sleepy or drowsy. i just sort of close my eyes and am able to sleep (which i'll take as a win). but does the drowsy feeling come back eventually? i'm worried about this 🥲 thank you for your videos! you have no idea how you saved my life 💖 i hope you're getting better and better each day!
update: now i feel like i have the flu. i have body aches right now and the lower part of my back (the muscle at least) hurts when i move. idk if thats normal or maybe our bodies just get sick after days of not sleeping properly 🥲
Thank you Matt for your generosity of spirit. We need to bring all these stories ti a workd in denial of this crisis. It is truly hiding in plan sight❤ blessings
How in GOD'S name did we get hooked on this garbage? Where were the doctors in telling us this stuff was ok? I get a bit angry sometimes. Listening to you is making me extremely nervous as I too suffered from akathesia. I never want to experience that again.
IMO sleep is probably one of the biggest if not the biggest keys to healing and recovery. I used to carry around a grocery bag of supplements to sleep i spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on different supps. The benzo and antidepressant withdrawal insomnia is like being in a pressure cooker with a ticking time bomb attached to it because as each night goes by with little to no sleep the less sane you become and the more desperate you become leading you to make mistakes out of desperation.
I would stay awake for 5 days then sleep for 1 or 2 hours except the most cruel thing about it is I would wake up thinking I finally slept but when I checked the time only an hour or 2 went by but it felt like i had slept the entire night its like 8 hours compressed into 2 hours.
It took me about 1 and half years to get 4 hours of sleep. Im about 3 years out now and I can sleep 6 to 9 hours no supplements .Thank God
What helped me a lot was daily prayer doing extended water fasts eating carnivore diet no processed foods or sugars lots of good clean water. If I needed anything to help fall asleep its warm milk with honey and or chamomille tea.
Its better not to use supplements because a lot of supplements mess with your neurotransmitters and mixing them together confuses your nervous system even more because they are synthesized by the same metabolite in your liver.
Your brain and nervous system is desperately confused during withdrawal and needs to get back into homeostasis and that takes time and takes what I would describe as a non toxic , supportive healthy environment.
For me i kept making the same mistakes going from doctor to doctor because i didn't know better all they were doing were trying to kill me with more pills or basicaslly not believe me.
You cannot heal in the same environment which made you sick so if you get sick from pills a doctor gave you then you cant heal from more pills another doctor is going to give you.
When it came down to the final straw it was just me and God and that's it. God basically in the simplest terms cocooned me guided me and protected and over time i started healing.
God led me to heal but not in the way I wanted but in the way God wanted by basically showing me EVERYTHING wrong about me.
You are helping me stay alive,
because of how
vulnerable and brave you are.
The horror you live on pills is something worse than hell, there's not a word for it yet. It is not human, but I have accepted it somehow. Psych meds have destroyed what I believed to be life.
I know that place intimately. I walked through many days of it. It distorts time. It is a different dimension. It is worse than hell. I am so sorry that you are going through it. But please hold on for the other side of it because life will be better than you can imagine when you heal.
Thanks for the video Matt. Insomnia is my absolute worst symptom. 20 months off alprazolam and still not sleeping much. I hope to get my sleep back someday like you did.
I believe you will. It’s not fun to hear this but just give it time. Your body is very smart. Keep going ❤️
❤ I keep reminding my self to just live one moment at a time. Thanks so much for not being selfish and helping so many of us any way you can.
Also please, I love the videos but your volume is so low. Perhaps you can speak into a louder mike or something. That would be awesome!
Hi Matt
Thank you for providing wonderful content.
I have severe chronic insomnia that started after being placed on klonopin. I was in it for 3 years for chronic anxiety by my Dr. I have been off for 17 months and my sleep has never returned. I know its from the klonopin but Dr wont admit it. Always slept well before. Now the only thing that helps is Lune 3mg. But not all the time. I feel my sleep will never returned. Im 54 and exhausted.
May God Bless You
Hey Matt! I recently found your channel and have been really impacted by your story. It's been truly unsettling to hear about the pain/suffering you and others go through as a result of SSRI/benzo withdrawal. I was totally ignorant to this issue prior to watching your videos. I haven't personally dealt with the same situation, but have experienced similar (albeit much less severe) symptoms like agitation, RLS, difficulty sleeping, depression/fear at night, etc. This is just a shot in the dark, but I recently came across some videos on TH-cam that use sound frequencies to calm the brain/body. It sounds kind of trivial, but I was honestly SHOCKED at how effective these sounds are for alleviating my own symptoms. I immediately thought of you and other SSRI/benzo withdrawal sufferers and wondered whether they would be at all effective for your symptoms. If you're interested, I'll put a few links to the videos I've found to be the most helpful below. There is a ton of content like this on the TH-cam channel "Meditative Mind" as well. Best of luck in your healing journey, I'm praying for you!
th-cam.com/video/goyZbut_KFY/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/uAbUeZfZNOI/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/TxkyFCeWAxs/w-d-xo.html
Thank you 🙏🏼
So refreshing to hear you Matt talking from an highly evolved perspective about this issue as I have seen in your videos. You have gained it not without a price, but also got a life-long source of infinite meaning you can now provide to yourself and to others. Wish you so much luck. Me myself has also been through too fast tapering. now do it crazy slow, and still not easy. I understand you so deep. I have learned to not tell family and friends about symptoms because the only answer is "Then why are you weaning the med 🤦♂️" so i leave it to myself and to people who also going through this. Keep going. You got it!
Thank you for the feedback it means a lot. I’m sorry you’re having to deal with it, but good for you for going really slow. That’s the best way to do it, but it’s frustrating and requires so much patience. You got this! Keep going. Sending love!
@@Heymattmarin Thank you! 💛
My testimony: I “innocently” started to take a hypno-benzo in 2017 due to some bad exam panic/insomnia (even more addictive than regular benzo and from there it spiralled until …
Cold turkey and then 4 months of Sertraline. After nearly 2 years of this bs
Im not suicidal or psychotic anymore (i didnt have hallucination but my goodness).
I have become an old slow lady physically n mentally in the span of a few years…maybe check out spiritual medicines bcos theres always an underlying story beneath all this. Wish u all the best ❤
Thank you Matt! ❤
Thank you for making this video, particularly in response to a request to make it. That last part really helped me as I too could not be convinced that my sleep will ever return to normal, but this video has given me hope. I'm currently knee-deep in the shit, but I am still using the tools of the system (IE drugs). My goal is going to be to get off as many as possible and just stay stable with low doses of what seems to be working with little effect.
I'm sure a lot of these videos have given a lot of people hope...
heeey another video from you, always appreciated. Much love❤
Thanks Matt ❤
Thanks Matt, your message was great ❤️
Thanks for another informative vid! Keep up the great work
Thank you, Matt.
as you said i made also the experience the caffeine is a big trigger for many symptoms and it is very underestimated.
Sis I’m sry you went through that with the ketamine. I’m also off a gabaergic and Prozac and was thinking about ket but I def will stay away so thx for sharing
During the withdrawal your cortisol levels are going to go up whether its from the withdrawal itself or the stress from the withdrawal I dont know but because of that its like 10x harder to sleep because you have the withdrawal and then the insomnia then the cortisol going up from the insomnia and withdrawal causing more insomnia.
So its super important to try to lower those cortisol levels and destress as best you can. Accupuncture helps in my experience but only temporarily and can be expensive.
But most of all STAY AWAY FROM TOXIC PEOPLE AND TOXIC ENVIRONMENTS. I know you might be desperate but toxic friends and family arent going to help
Sending you LOVE💖, LIGHT✨, and SLEEP 🛌 😴 .🇨🇦🙋🏻♀️
I slept unbelievably deeply for 9 hours last night. So I would say it was well received! Love and light and sleep to you my friend ❤️ ✨
Hello Matt Thanks for your honesty and courage in sharing your experiences to help others. My son is having similar problems with his psych meds and watching your videos has given me resolve to seek an integrative psychiatrist who can wean him off these chemicals. My son is chemically sensitive, has developed akathisia which none of the hospitalizations or psychiatrists recognized. He was pacing furiously and in terror and anxiety. Their explanation is his anxiety caused the pacing. If experts are ignorant who can you trust? One question, did you ever consider ECT? Thanks for your response.
I’m so sorry your son is going through akathisia. No, I would never consider ECT especially for akathisia. Sadly I have never heard of any treatment being very effective for it, it’s really about surviving it and waiting it out. I have a video about akathisia worth checking out. I’m sending it guys a lot of love.
This had nothing to do with this particular TH-cam video this information I am giving from experience. For anyone who feels suicidal thoughts if you feel it today wait until tomorrow and see how you feel tomorrow before you try and commit it because there is a chance that the following day you will not feel the same after you have rested and also invest in an eyemask to block out light while you rest it makes all the difference. So remember if you feel suicidal ideation wait till the following day I guarantee you will not feel the same way the next day. Don't worry the feelings will come back and every time they do wait until the next day and if you sleep the night before that is a plus
Yes! Emotions (feelings) will change and pass. Sometimes they get stuck, but hold on and ride it out without reacting.
Hi what were you on and did you taper?
I had to revisit this video. I got a small break of sleeping two better for one and a half nights. Im terrified Matt. I cant go back to sleep because everytime I jolt awake is the existencial fear with the pshycosis and my nervous system cant calm down. The terror of the anticipation of waking up is what Infeel keeps me in the loop. Two nights ago I was shaking uncontrolably about to call 911 when I decided to drink a supplement that has vitamin B12 zinc and magnessium. I took a small zip and it stopped almost immediatly so I took it all. This was when I actually slept. Other times I wonder if I made it worse by everytime I jolted awake I would pop a melatoning and got so sleepy, at times it afforded me a few more minutes asleep but the experiemces while awaking were severe and more disturbing. I stopped the melatoning. Then my throat would itch and Inwould suffocate so I begun poping hallz every minute I woke up. Now I think that actually made it bad too. I am recupeeating from covid and I only slept good one night. I had to take an expectorant and a pain killer for the covid and so my sleep went bye bye again and I was jolted awake with a horrific new sensation that never ends,it never calms down. I avoid it and been awake since. I feel I cant do this anymore. I mean that. I feel like how can I just go through this without any help. Ive taken teas but I dont really know if they make things worse or not.
This is long and all over the place but my brain is fried. As a last resort I had taken to try and sleep on the floor outside on my front porch. It worked once. Now it has been a fail. For some reason I cant even stand my bed. I dont even feel my self or know who I am. I feel like in autopilot. Its horrific.
I was like that too. I could not stand my bed. I would nod off and then jerk awake with gut shivers and terror. For 2 years I would get less than 2 hours of sleep. I never yawned. I never felt sleepy. I call them toxic naps because waking was worse than no sleep. But it gets better. Calm returns, terror leaves and sleep comes slowly back into your routine. Started with 4 hours, then 5, now 6 or 7. Once you start sleeping you will gain confidence that this is beginning to end. Light at the end of the tunnel. Hang in there. It gets better.
Do you have any advice for someone who has had horrible insomnia for almost 30 years? I am not on any medication and never have been. Thanks.
Hi Matt… Thank you so much for these TH-cam videos.
I am actually too sick to write what I really want so my husband may send you an email.
I am wondering what your opinion is of using cannabis for pain or sleep. I, like you, am extremely sensitive and have had several setbacks due to having to take antibiotics and from a steroid and lidocaine injection for another chronic pain condition I suffer from along with this horrible , acute protracted withdrawal from being taken off of 4 mg of Klonopin in four weeks and 200 mg of Seroquel discontinued overnight.
I have been bedridden for 16 months with so many symptoms. then I get this condition called pudendal neuralgia, which is also one of the most painful, chronic and progressive pain conditions. They also have support groups for this because so many want to end their lives because of the constant intense pain with really no cure.
Anyway, I got off track here but I just wondered what your opinion is of using cannabis? Did you ever try it? I am scared too but at the same time I don’t know how much longer I can survive these two torturous conditions at once.
Thanks again. 🙏❣️
Hey there. I’m so sorry you’re going through this. My lived experience was really bad with using marijuana/CBD during my withdrawal. It made all of my symptoms way more severe. Unfortunately, a lot of people in this injury find that anything that affects the nervous system in any way causes setbacks. I know it’s horrible to have to sit and wait, but I do think time, rest, and good nutrition are the name of the game. I wish you a speedy recover and I’m sending love ❤️
Everyone is unique. Weed helped me with the nausea. I had lost an extreme amount of weight and getting nutrition was the most important symptom for me to address.
Hey Matt, how is your sleeping now?
Sorry to hear all you have gone through. I am also on psych meds and want to come off eventually, it’s very corrupt what is happening with psychiatrists.
You mentioned that valerian and l thianine supplements didn’t help? Were they high strength and do you think a camomile tea would have a negative affect?
I don’t think the natural supplements are gonna prevent healing but I do know they can make symptoms worse for some people, from experience. That type of stuff affects everyone differently. I’d just suggest caution and trying things one at a time at low doses and working up if there’s no problem. I am not a medical professional, so anything I say is just person to person. Not instructing you to do anything.
@@Heymattmarin hello, thanks for reply.
I understand you cannot give medical advice.
I was just wondering about chamomile tea as I assume it is weaker than taking a valerian root capsule?
@@XZoZoX2020X chamomile binds to benzo receptors from what I understand. Natural stuff is probably way less dangerous, but I still wouldn’t. I would get way worse symptoms after the sedative effect when I took it.
@@Heymattmarin Do you think when your nervous system recovers you could go back to natural things?
@@XZoZoX2020X yes
Matt By any chance did you use / try phosphatidylserine it is used to help excess cortisol
Just wondering if you had any experience with such
I did. I’ve tried so very many supplements. It gave me awful insomnia
@Heymattmarin By any chance ya remember your dose / mg you took ? I know over 300mg will give ya Insomia
@@garysimone4977 I don’t remember sorry. I think it was lower though.
I'm confused because I was on medical marijuana for a year. 5.5 months off thc ! I thought I had paws from thc! Is paws the same as your nervous system out of whack? There are people going thru weed paws and they take supplements and medication and are still healing. So I'm confused. I'm trying not to take anything. I want to heal. My symptoms are head pressure and tightness. Theres like a ball of anxiety on left side of head. I have restlessness in my body. Dont think its akathisia it's more like restless leg syndrome. I go pee only a tiny bit and it's like every half hour. The pressure in my head makes my neck hurt bad because I have cervical stenosis I also get heart palpitations when I go to bed and o yes depersonalization. Did you get depersonalzation?
I can't say anything for sure, but I think drugs in general have the potential to dysregulate the nervous system long term. All of the symptoms you describe sound like PAWS to me, though I can never say for certain. Please hang in there and keep going. Healing is coming.
@@Heymattmarin do you get depersonalzation at all or head pressure and tightness?
@@Terriloo1 yes I experienced all of those. They are much lighter now. Hang in there, it will all lessen more and more over time
I live alone and when I get less than 3 hours of sleep I get very emotion and unstable
I’m not even tapering right now due to external
factors
This is terrifying
My brain is injured from COVID to begin with and I got the vaccines and one booster
One day at a time. Sending love your way.
Matt question, I know you’ve said you had worse depression due to this, does it come in waves, because mine does, and I know due to these meds, do you know what’s up with that. Like why do we have those dang waves?
I don't know why this healing journey is so nonlinear, but I think it's because there's so much damage and dysregulation that our body has to recalibrate a lot of different systems and they kindof take turns. That's what it feels like for me at least.
@@Heymattmarin yeah makes sense. Thanks ❤️
Hey man, any way to contact you?
I am 28 and also med damaged since 5 years
Cheers
I’m sorry you’ve been through it too. Yes, my contact info is on my website which is in my bio. I offer coaching/support and hypnotherapy. Email me and we can set something up if you’re interested. Hang in there and keep going ❤️
You often mention gut issues. You're taking some peppermint gells? Not sure where to get those or what they do. Could you do a video on your gut problems? This is a huge iissue for a lot of us but not many know how to deal with it or whats happening in there. Thanks.
Yeah absolutely. Was planning on making one. It’s gonna be a long one, the gut issues have been the longest piece of my journey through this as they started before I even got off the meds. Thanks for the inspo, I’ll make it soon 🙏🏼
@@Heymattmarin Out of the 75 or so symptoms, my gut was up there as the worst. Even now it's still giving me grief. Don't have a clue what to do for it, but my guess is there's nerve damage. I am so happy for the quick response and that you're going to help! Out of all the videos I've seen over the years on drug withdrawal, I relate to you the most.
@@JoJo65654 thank you, that means a lot ❤️
Matt may i ask you, i take 50mg ssri for morning and 0.5mg benzo in evening for just a week, then now i withdraw for day 3 and i have insomnia, am i safe?
I’m not a medical professional so I can’t answer questions about safety. Did you taper off of the drugs?
@@Heymattmarin no am not taper off it, it's my first time use it, i just only get that from my psychiatrist just for one week then i imediately found its bad effect, so i take my quit of it, am i safe?
Currently suffering from nocturnal panic attacks that has followed me into my daily life as well. Panic attack on panic attack. It’s only been 4 days but i feel like i’m already going crazy…
Hello @F.reeeje, how are you after the month? Are your panics better?
Thank you Matt. I sleep in increments , CT since January 20. But I need a sleep routine. I have to lie down around 10 pm even though I’m not sleepy. Then I sleep choppy. Do you need to go sleep at the same time every nite ?
I think it helps, but you don't need to be perfect with it. You'll still heal.
Is your sleep still choppy? or can you sleep uninterrupted? How many hours do you usually get? Can you nap during daytime?
My sleep is very choppy and can’t sleep past 4:00am and completely lost me napping capability. It’s been 7 months since I stopped.
@@Comecloser80 if you watch the end of the video I share that I now sleep 6-8 hrs a night uninterrupted. I can nap occasionally, but I also lost that ability and don’t get to do it a lot. It’ll come back though I believe.
Thank you for replying. It gives me hope. I wish you for full recovery soon.
What do you think about magnesium spray?
I’m going to make a video in the next few days about supplements in general so keep an eye out for it. But magnesium didn’t do much for me personally, might’ve made me worse. Everyone is different though!
How long did your insomnia last? Insomnia has been my major symptom.
Hey 👋🏻 how are you now? This is what I'm currently going through
@@Carmen._.Chameleon I’m doing good. I’m functional. Though I’m still on trazodone. How have you been?
@@BrendanHull1 blah! I refuse to go on anything else. It's been 2 weeks of insomnia 😔 Glad you have something that's helping you
I’m in acute. I reinstated. It’s not working. Nothing is working. In such extreme pain and akathesia. Insomnia from hell. Dark thoughts.
I’ve been on and off sertraline for twenty years. I made it 14 months off last summer and this happened. Reinstated for three months. Went off for ten months. Thought I was over it. It’s all back worse than ever.
I’m 55. I can’t live this way. My original reason for taking was nothing!!! They gave them out like candy. PMS. Mild anxiety.
I am heartbroken 💔 angry and so sick
I had never heard of this. Never knew it existed. The doctors totally missed it last summer and this summer because I was so long off. They thought I had some rare disease. Maybe tick born. Tons of tests. Nothing. I finally connected it. Searched SSRI long withdrawal omg!!!! I found my people. So horrible these stories. I know what you suffered Matt. Omg. It’s unreal the level of pain. I am in shock from it. Speechless
@@planetbspace I'm so sorry you're in it too. It is unimaginable but it does heal.
I’m being forced down from my benzodiazepines. I’m 56, soon to be 57. And I keep wondering why suffer like this? Why? I’m five years from one grandfather’s death, ten from the other. What have I to gain from this suffering? What? I’m serious. Why?
Why can’t I just go away calm.
@@Galaxie500IN I just don’t have the answers to those questions. But I know you can get through it. Please keep going. I’m sending you so much love
Matt so looks like after about 30 -31 months off your sleep came back ???
Did melatonin help at all
I experienced really bad suicidal ideation from melatonin. Some people find it helpful but that’s what happened for me.
@Heymattmarin I'll keep that in mind when I actually get into my tapering journey. Much luck to you, despite it all there's hope for us drug victims
What was your offending drug? Did you have hair loss?
The two I was on the longest were Prozac and klonopin. No, but that is a common symptom. I had horrible skin for a long time.
@@Heymattmarin I see! Well, thanks for sharing. Mine was effexor. I developed extremely dry skin. Good for you for making these videos and the reach they have. You seem like a genuine dude. Keep making them!
@@HeymattmarinHi how long were you on it?
hey Matt! i'm going through withdrawals right now because i stopped cold turkey Aug 4. i had the worst insomnia for 2-3 weeks (like i could only sleep for about 30mins-1hr a day) until it got better. i'm able to sleep 4-5hrs a day now.
BUT i don't feel sleepy or drowsy. i just sort of close my eyes and am able to sleep (which i'll take as a win). but does the drowsy feeling come back eventually? i'm worried about this 🥲
thank you for your videos! you have no idea how you saved my life 💖 i hope you're getting better and better each day!
update: now i feel like i have the flu. i have body aches right now and the lower part of my back (the muscle at least) hurts when i move. idk if thats normal or maybe our bodies just get sick after days of not sleeping properly 🥲
Thank you Matt for your generosity of spirit. We need to bring all these stories ti a workd in denial of this crisis. It is truly hiding in plan sight❤ blessings
How in GOD'S name did we get hooked on this garbage? Where were the doctors in telling us this stuff was ok? I get a bit angry sometimes. Listening to you is making me extremely nervous as I too suffered from akathesia. I never want to experience that again.