Of ALL such videos this is the most fascinating. The Academic people CANNOT be expected to understand this as this video covers a far greater area. This is far far less falsifiable. We will have to wait till the present batch of Academics have retired. The present batch of Academics have a Western BIAS. The deciphering of this script has many effects. On the other understanding of World History. That the Europeans are a SUPERIOR CULTURE AND THEY EDUCATED THE Indians. This will prove that the reverse is true. The Western Academia cannot accept this.
Here is a better idea : Since all academics are BIASED (except the ones that don't question us, they are not biased), maybe we should create a new system. Where no academics or outsiders are allowed to comment. Academics are bunch of fools who pass comments on "superiorirty", which we totally dont. Peer review is for idiots. We should make a nice echo chamber and pat our backs on how superior we are. Those stupid Europeans and their stupid research. We are clearly superior. Some people might think this who idea of cultural superiorirty is childish. They are all biased. We are the truly unbiased people. We are the smart.
@@yajnadevam My bro. Sincerely appreciate your efforts. But I need an answer for one question. If IVC was sanskrit speaking, why the PGW culture , which is the successor of IVC, lacked a writing system?
Amazing work.....On one of the Bihar's Sonbhadra cave walls, a doorway is carved and beside it is an inscription which has not been deciphered to date. The inscription is said to be in the Shankhalipi. Shankhalipi or shell script was a modification of Brahmi script that was in use at the time. Shankha means conch shell and the script has ornate spiral characters arranged in neat lines to form sentences. *It is said that this undeciphered inscription gives the magical code to unlock the doorway*
Brother this is tooo amazing 🤩 We know that no one in the academic community will ever accept this, but don't the archeologist who are actually intrested to know things without any bias interested to look into this with a scientific lens?
Yes! All these bloody archaeologists are biased. Whereas only people like the ones on this youtube are completely dedicated to a scientific bent of mind. If they never do research with a predefined conclusion in their mind, how will they do anything worthwhile? they need to just take our great scriptures and tell us how everything fits accordingly. that's all they have to do and yet you see all this stupidity going around. what's the point of doing all that unnecessary gymnastics. I wonder when the world of these dumb academics will learn the superiority and power of our divine scriptures... We used to be even more advanced than the aliens residing in Sutala and rasatala loka. I'm so proud of our great heritage. Also, the academic field needs to abandon all their biased textbooks and whatever foolish research methods and research data they have so far and take up our Sanatan scriptures only, they will get the best knowledge regarding everything in the world that has existed and will ever exist.
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg There are gatekeepers who prevent truth to come out, if you say BS, then that is what tamil Propagandist say about Indian Government.
I have downloaded your paper.. my message to you.. Dear Sir, Very interesting work.. I would go through this paper and give my feedback.. My informal thesis was early Sumerian spoke Tamil well and wrote in Tamil. And, regarding Indus, you can see few of my works in academia..though initial attempts.. I would review my own works after reading yours.. One of my postulate about Indus was that the scripts could be read indifferent of any languages, in that sense logo syllabic just about same method used by Sumerian.. Great work.. congratulations..
Do you think you would make a whole detailed video for the whole paper on the decipherment. I think it would help in exponential terms in increasing the reach of your research.
We are eagerly waiting for the next video on the progress of your research. Had your study gained more acceptance in international journals? Any new discoveries from your translations?
Thanks for your brilliant work . Since I know Tamil , Sanskrit and I am a Geneticist , I am fully convinced of your findings . Even population Genetics wise as Neeraj Rai’s findings completely support Our civilisation is continuous from Vedic period till today , during IVC period Vedas were written in IVC script which is nothing but an earlier form of Brahmi which ultimately evolved to Brahmi to Sanskrit and Tamil . Our people are indigenous and we have no North / South , Aryan / Dravidian divide . One race , one language and one culture . We are diversity in Unity and that is expected as change is the law of nature . Evolution of humans or languages or culture continuously evolve .
At 02:51 It is stated that Indus script is found in Qutub Minar. Does this mean that Kutub Minar was built using materials after destroying an ancient prehistoric site?
Eagerly waiting for follow-on video on more translations! When will you will be doing the next presentation? Some interesting questions to answer would be : 1. Why unicorns ? 2. Purpose of seals? 3. Which rigvedic tribe lived in IVC ? 4. Any historical event captured in the texts ?
The seals you picked in this presentation were very interesting. Like the one on Soma had a glass too. It kind of buttresses your point. Also, the gem entrance.
This is super cool!! 👍 So the IVC was infact a vedic civilization with their language being Sanskrit in pre-Brahmi script? How does all this relates to Dravidian languages & overall South Asian people in the light of 2019 paper on DNA Genome sequencing? *I'm no expert or academician but a rationalist freethinker who follows this subject & the politics behind it. ❤ from Canada!🇨🇦 ❤❤
Sanskrit means refined Prakrithm. Then how this unspoken Sanskrit is ancient and mother of languages. th-cam.com/video/Cy-B_ip21Lo/w-d-xo.html&si=ChcXYW_V_IhJCbCR Tamil is mother of languages including Sanskrit and English
Great work in deciphering the Indus scripture. Thank you for sharing. Curious about the direction of writing from right to left. The seals when stamped will present the script as a mirror image on the object which would have to be read from left to right? Some artifacts are not seals (copper plae, sign board at entrance, etc)but are still read from right to left. Can you please explain this? Thank you.
Everything is read right-to-left. Seal impressions are also read right-to-left, but since seals cause a impression that mirrors their surface, actual seals may be read left-to-right. In practice, no one read actual seals. Copper inscriptions are the same as bas-relief inscriptions, they are read like any other writing.
Hello Yagna Devam, if you are viewing my comment.. I discussed about this finding with my other friends who believe in AMT stuffs. They were of course not interested in taking a look at this findings by giving arguments that its not published in any prestigious journals ( which i feel is a intellectual dishonesty on thier part ). However an interesing out come from those discussion was, they challenged to applay the same cryptographic methods to others deciphered languages such as Sumerian and Acadian. If the method produces the same results that are accepted by the historians then it will testify the method. So i wish you take up this challenge!
This method is described by Claude Shannon, the father of information theory in his 1945 paper. I have just manually applied it. Everything you do on your computer today from encryption to compression to signal over channels is from that paper. If one doesn't "accept" it, they may as well shut their computer and go live in the mountains. But to answer the question, Linear-B was also deciphered in a similar manner (but not as thoroughly). My paper also meets Shannon's criteria of correctness of decipherment. Everyday, thousands of cryptograms are solved using the same technique. There are also websites that solve cryptogram using the same method: quipqiup.com
@@yajnadevam True, i have confidence in your methods. But i also wish your work to be recognized by national and international journals for it to be accepted worldwide. The main argument they pose is "We can not look at these scripts as encryptions, only historians can testify it!" ( God knows why 😅). One way to surpass that is by passing a test of re-deciphring any other well-known(ancient) language using same methods and publishing the same in reputed journals, that could help. (as suggested by my other friends during the discussion)
@@subramanyam2699 This site solves cryptograms in over 25 languages rumkin.com/tools/cipher/cryptogram-solver/ Everyone who did not spend time to read the paper makes a random demand saying can you also do X or Y. All of them have been done already.
@@yajnadevam Sure. I will take a look in to it thank you. And all the very best for your future journey. Wish your work gets the due recognition in the academic criticals, that it rightly deserves. Pranam.
The inscriptions found in Indus valley is also found in keeladi and archeologists found out the evolution of indus script in to various stages and finally into Tamil brahmi. As per this video if indus script is related to Indo European/ Sankrit then how will you explain its evolution to Tamil Brahmi
The earliest Brahmi/Indus mixed inscriptions are in Haryana 1800 BCE. The earliest pure Brahmi is in Sri Lanka in Prakrit. Keeladi has both Sanskrit and Tamil words written in Brahmi. Tamil Brahmi is derived from Sanskrit Brahmi by adding a few Tamil specific letters.
Absolutely . I am fully in consonance with your decipherment of Indus Script having knowledge of Tamil and Sanskrit . Every word or sentence you have deciphered is meaningful . You will get recognition , I am sure. Keep giving lectures in all fora and get it published in Indian ASI journals . Best luck
Keeladi is sangam settlement we even found skeleton of foreign people from Europe and even far east Keeladi is earliest known sangam site And script and language is totall different thing Keeladi may have been Tamil speaker but script may have used of north western region due to sangam of culture
@@yajnadevam Tamil brahmi is much simpler than brahmi. Language evolves from simple form to complex form. So Brahmi possibly came from Tamil brahmi. Also, Tamil brahmi found in keeladi has some character resemblance with the indus script. So there may be a relation between them.
@@siran804how much you study linguistic ? Language do not evolves from simpl to complex that's not work in term of language In linguistics in sankrit it's called apabhramsa ( the corruption) language corrupt from complex to simple ( like Dharma , became dhamma in Pali ) Dharma is much complex compared to dhamma Old English is much harder to pronunciation and speak than today English
I'm a biologist and I somehow ended up here, very interesting as well as convincing. Looking forward to more discussions and ideas. Subscribed!! But I need to study biology now, lol instead of linguistics and cryptography. Oh, and someone pointing out Tamil Brahmi script somehow seems to be derived from Indus script and how that contradicts this, would like to know your thoughts about this once this is published. Also, I would like to urge you to keep using the platform and to continue to create content as there aren't many Indians creating content in the scientific/research community over on TH-cam or any other platform that I'm aware of!!
Script is script is does not bind by spoken language You can write any language with any script Brahmi of Tamil does not prove anything about "language" of indus Just like Urdu which is indo aryan but uses west asian origin script Brahmi spread in south and the regional language been written in Brahmi
We can't reject that logographic approach, at this stage, but we could do after comparing with your work, or trying with present form of Tamil.. look at single and double letter words pooling Sanskrit and Tamil, say just to start with..or, my point is to say, it is too early to reject..keep them aside suspended for a while.. One of my/our postulate to decipher Indus, numbers in the texts could be useful, further those one letter and two letter words..pooling them.. see our ppt on counting 1 to 10 in Sumerian, Tamil, Indus and Gondi..
Amazing work really! Thanks so much for this! Few questions though If the language in the scripts is proto Sanskrit then is it in fact the proto Indo European language? Does it have the features of this language which had pitch accents, 3 genders, 3 numbers 8 cases etc. Could you please explain the almost 1000 year gap between the disappearance of the indus script and the appearance of brahmi ? Do you think there are any intermediate forms that haven’t been discovered yet? Why do you think the direction of writing reversed in the brahmi script ? My guess is because the people got used to writing left to right designing the seals 🧐 Does it have any connection with the kharosthi script which was also an abugida written from right to left that is believed to be derived from Aramaic. We have Sanskrit and Prakrit languages written in this script as well. Thank you
1. The language seems to be Paninian Sanskrit, not proto-Sanskrit. It does have gender and number including duals. Im unsure if it has pitch accent. This is a topic for further research. I believe there are 8 cases, most are attested. 2. There is no 1000 yr gap. There is a 650 yr overlap. The first Brahmi is around Keezhadi 600 BCE and the last Indus inscription in Sanur 50 CE. There are also at least 6 mixed Brahmi+IVC inscriptions spanning several centuries. 3. Some old Brahmi inscriptions are R->L. They may have changed direction with a change of materials. 5. Karoshti is a topic for future research. The aramaic claim is a guess based on everything being descended from Aramaic, its neither proven nor falsified yet.
@@yajnadevam I think it was not just presumption. All over India we can find hundreds of inscriptions in Prakrit, Kannada, Tamil, Paali and other languages. Not even a single inscriptions in Sanskrit until later Gupta period. IVC script may be the original form of Brahmi and the language might have been a Prakrit language.
1. does all seals are deciphered. 2. Did we get some info like about geology historical event etc from these decipherment or any math science related things 3. At 34:30 third symbol from bottom looks like swastika
1. All seals can be read. There is some effort in transliteration and translation. We are working on it. 2. Mostly religious and cultural information 3. Unlikely, they had clear swastikas from the very beginning.
@@yajnadevam Pls check your decipherment once again. Seriously, I see no possibility that it could be sanskrit. That too you are claiming pannian sanskrit! How on earth can it be panninian sanskrit?? Pannini dates back at the max to the 6the century BCE while IVC at its prime is 5000 years old!!! And if it was sanskrit, why there's absence of writing in the north till the mauryan era???
@@yajnadevam Follow up question. You talk about mitanni agreement sanskrit words. If it were the indians who migrated there, then why did they not carry their IVC script?? What's the necessity to use cuneiform script instead of their own script???
@@TheMysticHustleMittani ruled over a majority non Aryan hurrian populace who used cunieform script. Hence IVC script was not used. Another fact which conclusively proves that Mittani were from IVC is the presence of Indian Zebu cattle in West Asia at that time. The same point also refutes your "IVC was dravidian fantasy" bcoz people in the South have high lactose intolaerance which couldnt have been the case of they were originally from a place which abounded in cattle.
🪔 🚩 🇮🇳 👌🙏✊️ 🇮🇳 🚩 🪔 I guess old scripts in 1300 year temples in Bharat might help... Also, if you could get your hands on old scripts around this area...
I personally sent your paper to an actual historian and he did take a look into it. Turns out he didn't understand alot of things, and doesn't think he got it.
@@yajnadevam So the guy is indian, and recently did podcasts with 2 indian podcasters, Vaad and Dostcast. His name is Jay Vardhan Singh And this was his response when i asked him what he thinks of your paper: "I did go through the article not the video, as it was too long for me to watch. Frankly, there're many points which I couldn't understand. That is probably has to do with the fact that I don't know enough about linguistics. So in short, I can't say whether his finding are valid or not."
@@yajnadevam here is my heartfelt suggestion, there are actual professionals who are ready, happy and eager to look into your work, but i think it is hard to from the consumer's pov to get what you want to say. I have personally sent your work to many young indian TH-camrs who make content on stuff that would cover this, but guess what not one made it with complexity of the paper. So, here is what i think you should do, take your time and put the whole paper in lecture format on youtube. It may be a series of short videos, series of long videos, one or some super long videos. But, please, do one thing, please make it easier for the consumer.
I was convinced for a whole blissful two minutes but two things don't make sense -- 1. As mentioned in one of the questions, the sanskrit being produced doesn't really match the vedic style or vocabulary. It reeks of someone using a Sanskrit dictionary to find the word from meanings. 2. The probability calculation doesn't include the improvement of chances when you clump the aspirated and unaspirated words together. For a string of length n with each character having two possible consonant forms, that 2^n. But loved the regex part of the talk. It is rare to see a terminal window in a non-tech talk. Wish you and your decipherment all the best!!
what if it is like sumerian cuneiform which is a combination of syllabic and logographic with markers? then this approach will fail, as it would wrongly associate a logogram or even marker as syllable.
Indus script is abugida and the inscriptions are Sanskrit. The probability of the script or the language being anything else is zero. You would solve the subgraph isomorphism problem and prove P=NP if you can show it to be anything else. In which case, you may as well claim your million dollar prize from Clay institute www.claymath.org/millennium-problems/p-vs-np-problem
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg There are over 100 claims, they are all wrong. Mathivanan is claiming L->R direction, and i havent seen his translation of long seals.
Just read the abstract.. interesting.. If Brahmi is standard version of Indus and Tamilee predating Brahmi.. we have Tamilee in the pathway, further, Tamil should also stand test and do better, as in his case using Sanskrit.. Irrespective of any other, if Sanskrit is proving as the best fit, then alternatively, was Sanskrit itself reconstructed or forward encrypted to restructure words from proto Dravidian or ancient form of Tamil..to camouflage.. note Loganathan observation that Rig Veda was ancient form of Tamil..
U say that in qutub minar has indus script, so could it be possible that qutubuddin aibak is not the person who built it?? Also i saw a video of Neeraj Atriji in which the guest spoke how qutub minar is not built by qutubuddin aibak but much earlier and it had 27 windows opening towards 27 temples, which were a pratika of 27 nakshatra and it has some significance as a clock with accuracy upto 2 secs.
A muslim maulvi first wrote a book as to why Qutub was not built by any muslim. Anyone who knows basics of Islam knows how offensive musical instruments are in a religious structure. th-cam.com/video/Lens-aiSXqg/w-d-xo.html
@@yajnadevam I think animal sacrifice is not there in vedas as per slokas. Actually ashwamedh yagam is totally different ritual. It was debunked by one doctor in my state in telugu . I wish you might reconsider it
@@crazythings6358 Details of how to sacrifice animals and which meats are best preferred by gods are given in vedas. Hindus were always meat eaters. Buddhist and Jains made Hindus vegetarian.
It’s really interesting, but classical Sanskrit didn’t really come up until standardization by panini in 400 BC. It was Vedic Sanskrit at least in 2000 BC. How do you explain the simultaneous existence of these two varieties in the Indus Valley and why don’t we find any literature from this civilization like the Vedic literature in Vedic Sanskrit which again doesn’t mention anything about the Indus Valley people?
The biggest dichotomy... People with literature leave no building i.e vedic civilization... And tge people with extensive architecture just leave small seals and no literature... This is a paradox solved by this discovery.. RigVedas fully describe saraswati as a mighty river... It is only in last vedas and mahabharat that saraswati is described as ending in thar desert . This alone shd put vedas back to 4000 BC atleast. This solves the puzzle....❤ The IVC is the vedic civilization
😂😂no Can see the remains of jain stupas and ayyagpata excavated from kankali tila expedition in Mathura which was at crossroads of trade upto gandhar Afghanistan The pair of fishes is clearly seen and it is one of asthamangla sign Jainism whose ancient name is Shraman dharma or anekantawad also called shamanism or shramanism It's first tirthankara rishabhnath or adinath whose sign is bull and guardian diety is gomukh yaksha and yakshini chakreshwari mata whose vehicle is Garuda Tirthankar rishabhnath or adinath, son of vaivashtha Manu or nabhi kulkar and attained nirvana on Mount Kailash
Sanskrit means sanskaarit(modified) that is modification of Pali paakit(prakit). your assumption is biased as your statement assumes sanskrit is oldest language. To further clarify, you can refer this videos: 1. th-cam.com/video/kciMbc98AMQ/w-d-xo.html 2. th-cam.com/video/9S7ZojhtDl4/w-d-xo.html
Sankrit not mean modified it mean refined , structured and it is named to classical Sankrit ,refined for scholary work , official work among the noble class , Prakrit mean natural kinda like go with the flow kinda language Prakrit is street language Sankrit is official or scholarly language , You cannot do work with go with the flow language 😂 Example = British English ( more soffescticated ) Africo Americans ( natural ,street language) British English stand out more proper grammatical , verbal and it is older form of English Afro American is free language and other version of English ( it is natural because nobody holding language for perfaction )
What is happened to Sankrit is happened to all language around the world Even tamil , noble tamilian spoke much more ancient word with proper grammer , Latin ( which hold on to ancientness ) and vulgar Latin ( street Latin, easily can acceptable with improper way to speak, without grammer)
Indeed sangam Tamil from 500 BCE is closest to todays Tamil. But the archaisms of 2500 BCE are believed to be preserved in Tulu, Kodava and other Dravidian languages more than Tamil. I haven't studied Dravidian linguistics enough to have any informed opinion on this matter.
@@yajnadevam if you haven’t studied it then don’t make claims like “it is closer to tulu”. The archaisms are distributed in all the children. But Tamil maintains a lot of the old purity. I have studied the phonology and linguistics of both ancient Tamil and Sanskrit. I really like your cryptographic approach to decipherment problem. You should try to run it against archaic Tamil dictionary as well. My assessment is that the Brahmi alphabet started with just basic 12 twelve letters and expanded later to include its many allophones. So am guessing the Indus script would have had symbols for their equivalents.
@@cyb-mTamil does not maintain purity it was made so called pure ,by Puting more non sankritzed word from "other tribal language" Google Tamil linguistic movement , for purity they forcefully put tribal words that was present in southern tribal language distant from sankritzed ( Many of words even did not exists in historically in Tamil ) Tamilan movement tried to triablized language more to make it look it is Oldest and pure
@greaterbharat4175 you are the biggest idiot I have encountered in this forum . Tamil.has the highest vocabulary in any language of the world and there is no need for Tamils to borrow from another language ..don't pull any more shit from your anus in this forum
How does this read with Oak's hypothesis 5561 BC Mahabharat war 12209 BC Ram - Ravan war Over 21000 BP - Rig Veda. Sits well with your proposition that the language is Paninian Sanskrit Also this work is a big blow to dravi-turds , stay safe.
Im not an expert on dating, but recent findings of cotton trade IVC/Israel in 5000 BCE makes early dates slightly less improbable. However, we have no evidence of domestication of cattle until about 8000 BCE, so can't really see evidence for anything beyond that date. This may change as more things are dug up.
@@yajnadevam He has provided multi-dimensional evidence, including geology, hydrology (Saraswati - ऋग्वेद (ऋचा २:४१:१६).'अम्बी तमे, नदी तमे, देवी तमे सरस्वती') astronomy (from references inside the texts - such as the Arundhati-Vasishtha Observation) oceanography (Dwarka) Albeit that his chronology raises more questions than the answers it provides, but that is the nature of knowledge. He is waiting to be disproved. I am not here to bat for him, just that to my lay person's ears you sound like you both are on the same page. Perhaps you can share a platform for friendly a friendly banter Perhaps Sattology
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg The academia had asserted that there was never a Ram mandir in Ayodhya, that submergence of Dwarka is a myth, that the Saraswati is a myth and all that
Hinglish is funny like to do go gu pronounce Taxila Nalanda Vkramshila why destroyed by malech muslim christian both r funny uncultured now trying copy mann silence pra vidya apra vidya only Bharat Gurukulam culture sanskar
@@anitabhadauria2465 are you mad? Read world dna study. It will tell you ivc is Tamil dna. And also it will tell you male Arya brahmin migrated to India after ivc around 1500bc.
@@anitabhadauria2465 go where. ? India is Tamil country. We are here. Same technology in ivc and script is available in Tamil Nadu ( should be across India) whereever you dig archaeologically, it will be Tamil only.
@@அரசன்நாடார் culture of IVC matches most closely with cultures of Rajasthan,Gujarat,Punjab,Haryana. All Indians have 90% same DNA and the mixing found in northern regions of the India is due to Huns,Kushans,Sakas,Yavnas and all of them are much later and adopted the local language,religion and culture
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Read the full paper to get a deeper understanding www.academia.edu/78867798/Deciphering_Indus_script_as_a_cryptogram
@Yajnadevam excellent effort though.
Did you use computer vision and deep learning to solve this prb.
I have seen many videos this is most convincing. Actually it's mind blowing 🔥🔥
Of ALL such videos this is the most fascinating. The Academic people CANNOT be expected to understand this as this video covers a far greater area. This is far far less falsifiable.
We will have to wait till the present batch of Academics have retired. The present batch of Academics have a Western BIAS. The deciphering of this script has many effects. On the other understanding of World History. That the Europeans are a SUPERIOR CULTURE AND THEY EDUCATED THE Indians. This will prove that the reverse is true. The Western Academia cannot accept this.
Here is a better idea : Since all academics are BIASED (except the ones that don't question us, they are not biased), maybe we should create a new system. Where no academics or outsiders are allowed to comment. Academics are bunch of fools who pass comments on "superiorirty", which we totally dont. Peer review is for idiots. We should make a nice echo chamber and pat our backs on how superior we are. Those stupid Europeans and their stupid research. We are clearly superior. Some people might think this who idea of cultural superiorirty is childish. They are all biased. We are the truly unbiased people. We are the smart.
As a westerner I would be very interested to see your work completed and the script deciphered this would open up a whole new world of history.
It is completely deciphered.
Thanks for your open minded view
@@yajnadevam Oh can you link to it?
@@ashmoleproductions5407 www.academia.edu/78867798/Deciphering_Indus_script_as_a_cryptogram
@@yajnadevam My bro. Sincerely appreciate your efforts. But I need an answer for one question. If IVC was sanskrit speaking, why the PGW culture , which is the successor of IVC, lacked a writing system?
Amazing and interesting work sir👏 do keep posting and enlightening us with more knowledge 🙏
Amazing work.....On one of the Bihar's Sonbhadra cave walls, a doorway is carved and beside it is an inscription which has not been deciphered to date. The inscription is said to be in the Shankhalipi. Shankhalipi or shell script was a modification of Brahmi script that was in use at the time. Shankha means conch shell and the script has ornate spiral characters arranged in neat lines to form sentences.
*It is said that this undeciphered inscription gives the magical code to unlock the doorway*
Brilliant analysis man.
You may have solved a 5000 year old mystery.
Great work Yajnadevam
Brother this is tooo amazing 🤩
We know that no one in the academic community will ever accept this, but don't the archeologist who are actually intrested to know things without any bias interested to look into this with a scientific lens?
Yes! All these bloody archaeologists are biased. Whereas only people like the ones on this youtube are completely dedicated to a scientific bent of mind. If they never do research with a predefined conclusion in their mind, how will they do anything worthwhile? they need to just take our great scriptures and tell us how everything fits accordingly. that's all they have to do and yet you see all this stupidity going around. what's the point of doing all that unnecessary gymnastics. I wonder when the world of these dumb academics will learn the superiority and power of our divine scriptures... We used to be even more advanced than the aliens residing in Sutala and rasatala loka. I'm so proud of our great heritage. Also, the academic field needs to abandon all their biased textbooks and whatever foolish research methods and research data they have so far and take up our Sanatan scriptures only, they will get the best knowledge regarding everything in the world that has existed and will ever exist.
That no one in the academic community will ever accept is itself the reason for this to be taken as a biassed version !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wgRead the paper with title " The Major Y-Chromosome Haplotype XI- Haplogroup R1a in Eurasia"
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Did you read?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg There are gatekeepers who prevent truth to come out, if you say BS, then that is what tamil Propagandist say about Indian Government.
Congradultions. This is very much convincing. Wish your work gets the attention it rightly deserves.
I have downloaded your paper.. my message to you..
Dear Sir,
Very interesting work..
I would go through this paper and give my feedback..
My informal thesis was early Sumerian spoke Tamil well and wrote in Tamil.
And, regarding Indus, you can see few of my works in academia..though initial attempts.. I would review my own works after reading yours..
One of my postulate about Indus was that the scripts could be read indifferent of any languages, in that sense logo syllabic just about same method used by Sumerian..
Great work.. congratulations..
Do you think you would make a whole detailed video for the whole paper on the decipherment.
I think it would help in exponential terms in increasing the reach of your research.
Yes
We are eagerly waiting for the next video on the progress of your research. Had your study gained more acceptance in international journals?
Any new discoveries from your translations?
Thanks for your brilliant work . Since I know Tamil , Sanskrit and I am a Geneticist , I am fully convinced of your findings . Even population Genetics wise as Neeraj Rai’s findings completely support Our civilisation is continuous from Vedic period till today , during IVC period Vedas were written in IVC script which is nothing but an earlier form of Brahmi which ultimately evolved to Brahmi to Sanskrit and Tamil . Our people are indigenous and we have no North / South , Aryan / Dravidian divide . One race , one language and one culture . We are diversity in Unity and that is expected as change is the law of nature . Evolution of humans or languages or culture continuously evolve .
D(from Dhanush), U(from Urn) and E( from Harappan E) still exist..... and in English???
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Amazing work!
Great work bro!👍
At 02:51 It is stated that Indus script is found in Qutub Minar. Does this mean that Kutub Minar was built using materials after destroying an ancient prehistoric site?
Eagerly waiting for follow-on video on more translations! When will you will be doing the next presentation?
Some interesting questions to answer would be :
1. Why unicorns ?
2. Purpose of seals?
3. Which rigvedic tribe lived in IVC ?
4. Any historical event captured in the texts ?
The seals you picked in this presentation were very interesting. Like the one on Soma had a glass too. It kind of buttresses your point. Also, the gem entrance.
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I like it. That's important.
I have deciphered the Indus Script. Within one year I will get my work published.😀
Where can we see the work?
Has it been published?? Where can we find it??
Recommended now for obvious reason
This is super cool!! 👍
So the IVC was infact a vedic civilization with their language being Sanskrit in pre-Brahmi script?
How does all this relates to Dravidian languages & overall South Asian people in the light of 2019 paper on DNA Genome sequencing?
*I'm no expert or academician but a rationalist freethinker who follows this subject & the politics behind it.
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Sanskrit means refined Prakrithm. Then how this unspoken Sanskrit is ancient and mother of languages.
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Tamil is mother of languages including Sanskrit and English
Great work in deciphering the Indus scripture. Thank you for sharing. Curious about the direction of writing from right to left. The seals when stamped will present the script as a mirror image on the object which would have to be read from left to right? Some artifacts are not seals (copper plae, sign board at entrance, etc)but are still read from right to left. Can you please explain this? Thank you.
Everything is read right-to-left. Seal impressions are also read right-to-left, but since seals cause a impression that mirrors their surface, actual seals may be read left-to-right. In practice, no one read actual seals. Copper inscriptions are the same as bas-relief inscriptions, they are read like any other writing.
So finally indus valley and dholavira script has been read, vedic culture continuous since then.
So greatful to Yajnadevam Proud to be Indian🇮🇳
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Hello Yagna Devam, if you are viewing my comment.. I discussed about this finding with my other friends who believe in AMT stuffs. They were of course not interested in taking a look at this findings by giving arguments that its not published in any prestigious journals ( which i feel is a intellectual dishonesty on thier part ).
However an interesing out come from those discussion was, they challenged to applay the same cryptographic methods to others deciphered languages such as Sumerian and Acadian. If the method produces the same results that are accepted by the historians then it will testify the method.
So i wish you take up this challenge!
This method is described by Claude Shannon, the father of information theory in his 1945 paper. I have just manually applied it. Everything you do on your computer today from encryption to compression to signal over channels is from that paper. If one doesn't "accept" it, they may as well shut their computer and go live in the mountains. But to answer the question, Linear-B was also deciphered in a similar manner (but not as thoroughly). My paper also meets Shannon's criteria of correctness of decipherment.
Everyday, thousands of cryptograms are solved using the same technique. There are also websites that solve cryptogram using the same method: quipqiup.com
@@yajnadevam True, i have confidence in your methods. But i also wish your work to be recognized by national and international journals for it to be accepted worldwide.
The main argument they pose is "We can not look at these scripts as encryptions, only historians can testify it!" ( God knows why 😅).
One way to surpass that is by passing a test of re-deciphring any other well-known(ancient) language using same methods and publishing the same in reputed journals, that could help. (as suggested by my other friends during the discussion)
@@subramanyam2699 This site solves cryptograms in over 25 languages rumkin.com/tools/cipher/cryptogram-solver/ Everyone who did not spend time to read the paper makes a random demand saying can you also do X or Y. All of them have been done already.
@@yajnadevam Sure. I will take a look in to it thank you. And all the very best for your future journey. Wish your work gets the due recognition in the academic criticals, that it rightly deserves. Pranam.
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The inscriptions found in Indus valley is also found in keeladi and archeologists found out the evolution of indus script in to various stages and finally into Tamil brahmi. As per this video if indus script is related to Indo European/ Sankrit then how will you explain its evolution to Tamil Brahmi
The earliest Brahmi/Indus mixed inscriptions are in Haryana 1800 BCE. The earliest pure Brahmi is in Sri Lanka in Prakrit. Keeladi has both Sanskrit and Tamil words written in Brahmi. Tamil Brahmi is derived from Sanskrit Brahmi by adding a few Tamil specific letters.
Absolutely . I am fully in consonance with your decipherment of Indus Script having knowledge of Tamil and Sanskrit . Every word or sentence you have deciphered is meaningful . You will get recognition , I am sure. Keep giving lectures in all fora and get it published in Indian ASI journals . Best luck
Keeladi is sangam settlement we even found skeleton of foreign people from Europe and even far east
Keeladi is earliest known sangam site
And script and language is totall different thing
Keeladi may have been Tamil speaker but script may have used of north western region due to sangam of culture
@@yajnadevam Tamil brahmi is much simpler than brahmi. Language evolves from simple form to complex form. So Brahmi possibly came from Tamil brahmi. Also, Tamil brahmi found in keeladi has some character resemblance with the indus script. So there may be a relation between them.
@@siran804how much you study linguistic ? Language do not evolves from simpl to complex that's not work in term of language
In linguistics in sankrit it's called apabhramsa ( the corruption) language corrupt from complex to simple ( like Dharma , became dhamma in Pali ) Dharma is much complex compared to dhamma
Old English is much harder to pronunciation and speak than today English
What's the name of the researcher you said is working on Dravidian languages?
This is in response to the first question in QA
Igor Tonoyan-Belyeyev
@@yajnadevam thanks
Very Scientific
I'm a biologist and I somehow ended up here, very interesting as well as convincing. Looking forward to more discussions and ideas. Subscribed!! But I need to study biology now, lol instead of linguistics and cryptography. Oh, and someone pointing out Tamil Brahmi script somehow seems to be derived from Indus script and how that contradicts this, would like to know your thoughts about this once this is published. Also, I would like to urge you to keep using the platform and to continue to create content as there aren't many Indians creating content in the scientific/research community over on TH-cam or any other platform that I'm aware of!!
Also see my latest videos, it clears up a few more things.
Script is script is does not bind by spoken language
You can write any language with any script
Brahmi of Tamil does not prove anything about "language" of indus
Just like Urdu which is indo aryan but uses west asian origin script
Brahmi spread in south and the regional language been written in Brahmi
We can't reject that logographic approach, at this stage, but we could do after comparing with your work, or trying with present form of Tamil.. look at single and double letter words pooling Sanskrit and Tamil, say just to start with..or, my point is to say, it is too early to reject..keep them aside suspended for a while..
One of my/our postulate to decipher Indus, numbers in the texts could be useful, further those one letter and two letter words..pooling them.. see our ppt on counting 1 to 10 in Sumerian, Tamil, Indus and Gondi..
Amazing work really! Thanks so much for this! Few questions though
If the language in the scripts is proto Sanskrit then is it in fact the proto Indo European language? Does it have the features of this language which had pitch accents, 3 genders, 3 numbers 8 cases etc.
Could you please explain the almost 1000 year gap between the disappearance of the indus script and the appearance of brahmi ? Do you think there are any intermediate forms that haven’t been discovered yet?
Why do you think the direction of writing reversed in the brahmi script ? My guess is because the people got used to writing left to right designing the seals 🧐
Does it have any connection with the kharosthi script which was also an abugida written from right to left that is believed to be derived from Aramaic. We have Sanskrit and Prakrit languages written in this script as well.
Thank you
1. The language seems to be Paninian Sanskrit, not proto-Sanskrit. It does have gender and number including duals. Im unsure if it has pitch accent. This is a topic for further research. I believe there are 8 cases, most are attested.
2. There is no 1000 yr gap. There is a 650 yr overlap. The first Brahmi is around Keezhadi 600 BCE and the last Indus inscription in Sanur 50 CE. There are also at least 6 mixed Brahmi+IVC inscriptions spanning several centuries.
3. Some old Brahmi inscriptions are R->L. They may have changed direction with a change of materials.
5. Karoshti is a topic for future research. The aramaic claim is a guess based on everything being descended from Aramaic, its neither proven nor falsified yet.
@@yajnadevamvery interesting thanks, this clears a lot things 🙂
How can it be any type of Sanskrit? Sanskrit was oral tradition till 1st century BCE.
@@shiva1411 This new evidence falsifies any such presumptions.
@@yajnadevam I think it was not just presumption. All over India we can find hundreds of inscriptions in Prakrit, Kannada, Tamil, Paali and other languages. Not even a single inscriptions in Sanskrit until later Gupta period. IVC script may be the original form of Brahmi and the language might have been a Prakrit language.
1. does all seals are deciphered.
2. Did we get some info like about geology historical event etc from these decipherment or any math science related things
3. At 34:30 third symbol from bottom looks like swastika
1. All seals can be read. There is some effort in transliteration and translation. We are working on it.
2. Mostly religious and cultural information
3. Unlikely, they had clear swastikas from the very beginning.
@user-pd3kr6mh6q most long seals are references to Rigvedic verses, a couple from YV and AV. Iconography and text suggests vedic sacrifices.
@@yajnadevam Pls check your decipherment once again. Seriously, I see no possibility that it could be sanskrit. That too you are claiming pannian sanskrit! How on earth can it be panninian sanskrit?? Pannini dates back at the max to the 6the century BCE while IVC at its prime is 5000 years old!!!
And if it was sanskrit, why there's absence of writing in the north till the mauryan era???
@@yajnadevam Follow up question. You talk about mitanni agreement sanskrit words. If it were the indians who migrated there, then why did they not carry their IVC script?? What's the necessity to use cuneiform script instead of their own script???
@@TheMysticHustleMittani ruled over a majority non Aryan hurrian populace who used cunieform script. Hence IVC script was not used. Another fact which conclusively proves that Mittani were from IVC is the presence of Indian Zebu cattle in West Asia at that time. The same point also refutes your "IVC was dravidian fantasy" bcoz people in the South have high lactose intolaerance which couldnt have been the case of they were originally from a place which abounded in cattle.
You are excellent. So proud of you
Brilliant, but did your decipherment get any recognition?
Any help from you will be appreciated
Thank for the invaluable work!
Please go through the script of Easter Island. Indus valley and Easter Island script are very similar
Thanks bro appreciate it
Do they mention in their writings anything about their origins? Or some disturbance? Trade? Any oligarchy/monarchy or something odd??
Many references to Rig veda, names of Vedic poets and Rig vedic characters, prayers for rain, some trade
Good
Just curious. When you say pre-iron age, do you mean pre-iron age in Europe? India seems to have reached iron age long before that.
meaning before 1200 bce
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I guess old scripts in 1300 year temples in Bharat might help...
Also, if you could get your hands on old scripts around this area...
I personally sent your paper to an actual historian and he did take a look into it.
Turns out he didn't understand alot of things, and doesn't think he got it.
He did not get the method or he did not understand the translation?
@@yajnadevam So the guy is indian, and recently did podcasts with 2 indian podcasters, Vaad and Dostcast.
His name is Jay Vardhan Singh
And this was his response when i asked him what he thinks of your paper:
"I did go through the article not the video, as it was too long for me to watch. Frankly, there're many points which I couldn't understand. That is probably has to do with the fact that I don't know enough about linguistics. So in short, I can't say whether his finding are valid or not."
@@yajnadevam here is my heartfelt suggestion, there are actual professionals who are ready, happy and eager to look into your work, but i think it is hard to from the consumer's pov to get what you want to say.
I have personally sent your work to many young indian TH-camrs who make content on stuff that would cover this, but guess what not one made it with complexity of the paper.
So, here is what i think you should do, take your time and put the whole paper in lecture format on youtube.
It may be a series of short videos, series of long videos, one or some super long videos.
But, please, do one thing, please make it easier for the consumer.
@@yajnadevam the channel name is @JayVardhanSingh
@@yajnadevam btw he also said this- "I like to read about topics like these, I can't watch videos on these topics"
Sanskrit: base language for IVC
IVC : base language for brami
Sanskrit + ivc + brami = Tamil
So the oldest language is sankrit
Between Indus script & Brahmi there is 1000 years gap
I was convinced for a whole blissful two minutes but two things don't make sense --
1. As mentioned in one of the questions, the sanskrit being produced doesn't really match the vedic style or vocabulary. It reeks of someone using a Sanskrit dictionary to find the word from meanings.
2. The probability calculation doesn't include the improvement of chances when you clump the aspirated and unaspirated words together. For a string of length n with each character having two possible consonant forms, that 2^n.
But loved the regex part of the talk. It is rare to see a terminal window in a non-tech talk. Wish you and your decipherment all the best!!
An updated presentation with simpler and stronger proof is coming. If you wish, you can read the paper at independent.academia.edu/yajnadevam
what if it is like sumerian cuneiform which is a combination of syllabic and logographic with markers? then this approach will fail, as it would wrongly associate a logogram or even marker as syllable.
Indus script is abugida and the inscriptions are Sanskrit. The probability of the script or the language being anything else is zero. You would solve the subgraph isomorphism problem and prove P=NP if you can show it to be anything else. In which case, you may as well claim your million dollar prize from Clay institute www.claymath.org/millennium-problems/p-vs-np-problem
@@yajnadevam Dr. Raman mathi vanan has already identified all the indus script as pure tamil !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg There are over 100 claims, they are all wrong. Mathivanan is claiming L->R direction, and i havent seen his translation of long seals.
@@yajnadevam How long is the longest seal ?
If harappan seals represent vedic names , why there is no continous history of writing in north india ?
@@yajnadevam Can you please give under ground archeological evidence of the mahabharath war of so many akshauhinis ?
Just read the abstract.. interesting..
If Brahmi is standard version of Indus and Tamilee predating Brahmi.. we have Tamilee in the pathway, further, Tamil should also stand test and do better, as in his case using Sanskrit..
Irrespective of any other, if Sanskrit is proving as the best fit, then alternatively, was Sanskrit itself reconstructed or forward encrypted to restructure words from proto Dravidian or ancient form of Tamil..to camouflage.. note Loganathan observation that Rig Veda was ancient form of Tamil..
Sir , what is the progress of your work ??.
I hope they can use Ai to decipher Indus script
U say that in qutub minar has indus script, so could it be possible that qutubuddin aibak is not the person who built it??
Also i saw a video of Neeraj Atriji in which the guest spoke how qutub minar is not built by qutubuddin aibak but much earlier and it had 27 windows opening towards 27 temples, which were a pratika of 27 nakshatra and it has some significance as a clock with accuracy upto 2 secs.
True
There are also remains of idols found in Qutub complex and also bells in walls
A muslim maulvi first wrote a book as to why Qutub was not built by any muslim. Anyone who knows basics of Islam knows how offensive musical instruments are in a religious structure. th-cam.com/video/Lens-aiSXqg/w-d-xo.html
Is animal sacrifice means killing the animals?
Yes, it still happens to this day
@@yajnadevam I think animal sacrifice is not there in vedas as per slokas. Actually ashwamedh yagam is totally different ritual. It was debunked by one doctor in my state in telugu . I wish you might reconsider it
@@crazythings6358 Details of how to sacrifice animals and which meats are best preferred by gods are given in vedas. Hindus were always meat eaters. Buddhist and Jains made Hindus vegetarian.
This is one of the unsolved mistri of human kind and so many less view 😭😭😭😭
Yajana Devam only Bhartyam knows
It’s really interesting, but classical Sanskrit didn’t really come up until standardization by panini in 400 BC. It was Vedic Sanskrit at least in 2000 BC. How do you explain the simultaneous existence of these two varieties in the Indus Valley and why don’t we find any literature from this civilization like the Vedic literature in Vedic Sanskrit which again doesn’t mention anything about the Indus Valley people?
How do you know Vedic Sanskrit was till 2000 BCE?
Presumption
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The biggest dichotomy...
People with literature leave no building i.e vedic civilization...
And tge people with extensive architecture just leave small seals and no literature...
This is a paradox solved by this discovery..
RigVedas fully describe saraswati as a mighty river...
It is only in last vedas and mahabharat that saraswati is described as ending in thar desert .
This alone shd put vedas back to 4000 BC atleast.
This solves the puzzle....❤
The IVC is the vedic civilization
@@LS-ql4wpno it was not Vedic civilization
It was shamanic and non Vedic
Vedic aryans were fish eating Brahmins so they used fish symbols in the script Ivc were Vedic people who spoke Sanskrit this guy has solved it
😂😂no
Can see the remains of jain stupas and ayyagpata excavated from kankali tila expedition in Mathura which was at crossroads of trade upto gandhar Afghanistan
The pair of fishes is clearly seen and it is one of asthamangla sign
Jainism whose ancient name is Shraman dharma or anekantawad also called shamanism or shramanism
It's first tirthankara rishabhnath or adinath whose sign is bull and guardian diety is gomukh yaksha and yakshini chakreshwari mata whose vehicle is Garuda
Tirthankar rishabhnath or adinath, son of vaivashtha Manu or nabhi kulkar and attained nirvana on Mount Kailash
Sanskrit means sanskaarit(modified) that is modification of Pali paakit(prakit). your assumption is biased as your statement assumes sanskrit is oldest language. To further clarify, you can refer this videos: 1. th-cam.com/video/kciMbc98AMQ/w-d-xo.html 2. th-cam.com/video/9S7ZojhtDl4/w-d-xo.html
Sankrit not mean modified it mean refined , structured and it is named to classical Sankrit ,refined for scholary work , official work among the noble class ,
Prakrit mean natural kinda like go with the flow kinda language
Prakrit is street language Sankrit is official or scholarly language ,
You cannot do work with go with the flow language 😂
Example = British English ( more soffescticated ) Africo Americans ( natural ,street language)
British English stand out more proper grammatical , verbal and it is older form of English
Afro American is free language and other version of English ( it is natural because nobody holding language for perfaction )
What is happened to Sankrit is happened to all language around the world
Even tamil , noble tamilian spoke much more ancient word with proper grammer
, Latin ( which hold on to ancientness ) and vulgar Latin ( street Latin, easily can acceptable with improper way to speak, without grammer)
Yes, prakrit got refined as sanskrit .
@@greaterbharat4175 Then which is the earlier form ?
Sanskrit or prakrit ?
25:00 saying tulu as old dravidian -- is nothing but bias. sangam tamil is closer to todays tamil than tulu.
Indeed sangam Tamil from 500 BCE is closest to todays Tamil. But the archaisms of 2500 BCE are believed to be preserved in Tulu, Kodava and other Dravidian languages more than Tamil. I haven't studied Dravidian linguistics enough to have any informed opinion on this matter.
@@yajnadevam if you haven’t studied it then don’t make claims like “it is closer to tulu”. The archaisms are distributed in all the children. But Tamil maintains a lot of the old purity. I have studied the phonology and linguistics of both ancient Tamil and Sanskrit.
I really like your cryptographic approach to decipherment problem. You should try to run it against archaic Tamil dictionary as well. My assessment is that the Brahmi alphabet started with just basic 12 twelve letters and expanded later to include its many allophones. So am guessing the Indus script would have had symbols for their equivalents.
Its unlikely to work on Tamil but if you find a downloadable dictionary of archaic Tamil, we can try.
@@cyb-mTamil does not maintain purity it was made so called pure ,by Puting more non sankritzed word from "other tribal language"
Google Tamil linguistic movement
, for purity they forcefully put tribal words that was present in southern tribal language distant from sankritzed
( Many of words even did not exists in historically in Tamil )
Tamilan movement tried to triablized language more to make it look it is Oldest and pure
@greaterbharat4175 you are the biggest idiot I have encountered in this forum . Tamil.has the highest vocabulary in any language of the world and there is no need for Tamils to borrow from another language ..don't pull any more shit from your anus in this forum
How does this read with Oak's hypothesis
5561 BC Mahabharat war
12209 BC Ram - Ravan war
Over 21000 BP - Rig Veda.
Sits well with your proposition that the language is Paninian Sanskrit
Also this work is a big blow to dravi-turds , stay safe.
Im not an expert on dating, but recent findings of cotton trade IVC/Israel in 5000 BCE makes early dates slightly less improbable. However, we have no evidence of domestication of cattle until about 8000 BCE, so can't really see evidence for anything beyond that date. This may change as more things are dug up.
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He has provided multi-dimensional evidence, including geology, hydrology (Saraswati - ऋग्वेद (ऋचा २:४१:१६).'अम्बी तमे, नदी तमे, देवी तमे सरस्वती') astronomy (from references inside the texts - such as the Arundhati-Vasishtha Observation) oceanography (Dwarka)
Albeit that his chronology raises more questions than the answers it provides, but that is the nature of knowledge.
He is waiting to be disproved.
I am not here to bat for him, just that to my lay person's ears you sound like you both are on the same page.
Perhaps you can share a platform for friendly a friendly banter
Perhaps Sattology
@@19683 Let him get approved by academia !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg The academia had asserted that there was never a Ram mandir in Ayodhya, that submergence of Dwarka is a myth, that the Saraswati is a myth and all that
@@19683 Was there ram mandir proof in Ayodhya ?
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Hinglish is funny like to do go gu pronounce Taxila Nalanda Vkramshila why destroyed by malech muslim christian both r funny uncultured now trying copy mann silence pra vidya apra vidya only Bharat Gurukulam culture sanskar
Ivc script is Tamil. Arya brahmin migrated to India after ivc around 1500bc.
Give a single arbhelogical or textual evidence for that
Where did IVC people went?
@@anitabhadauria2465 are you mad? Read world dna study. It will tell you ivc is Tamil dna. And also it will tell you male Arya brahmin migrated to India after ivc around 1500bc.
@@anitabhadauria2465 go where. ? India is Tamil country. We are here. Same technology in ivc and script is available in Tamil Nadu ( should be across India) whereever you dig archaeologically, it will be Tamil only.
@@அரசன்நாடார் culture of IVC matches most closely with cultures of Rajasthan,Gujarat,Punjab,Haryana. All Indians have 90% same DNA and the mixing found in northern regions of the India is due to Huns,Kushans,Sakas,Yavnas and all of them are much later and adopted the local language,religion and culture
🤔🤔🤔 When you say Brahmi you really mean Tamili right!
Brahmi but in Sanskrit Gupta Brahmi not Grantha Brahmi