@@b.m.5068 I think it would be closer to Tamil, which is older than Sanskrit. Cos it has now been proved that the Indus Valley civilization moved southwards in India towards Tamil Nadu.
Yes... Sanskrit is the language not had a script (लिपि).. In northern regions in India we learnt Sanskrit by devnagari script in schools, some years later I got to learn that in southern, East and West regions they have their own versions of scripts on Sanskrit, even in ancient time Sanskrit written in many different scripts. Because of the technology I got to learn many valuable information, that I didn't even knew in my highschool times.
I personally prefer the Devanagari script though all Bengali Hindu religious scriptures use the Bengali script and Odiyas the Odiya script for Sanskrit. I am a Bengali.
Okay ... Please tell me then how 👉 OM 👈 👉ॐ👈 the divine sanskrit/hindu word is written in any other language other than sanskrit .. let me clear you on this 👉ॐ👈 is written like this in any other language of the world because om is not just a word but a symbol 👉ॐ👈 Until we don't write om like this it's not considered to be divine .. in india many people keep there name om but they have write their name like this 👉ओम👈 & they are not allowed to write their name like this 👉ॐ👈 because om is not just a word but a symbol & this symbol is in sanskrit ... Sanskrit is 1960831121 years old & next year on the auspicious first day of chaitra navratri it will be 1960831122 year old
Sorry dear, Rig Veda is not first text, but Adharva Veda. It originated before 10000 BC . So all assumptions about the origin of languages are in different ways, and not just as said in this Video. Rig Vedic period was above 700 AD. So this is the last one. Adharva Veda's root subject was Black Magic. It originated for the safety existence in that time. So we must rethink about the origin of languages.
It's physically impossible to travel back in time, although there are theories on how it can be achieved but that would require unimaginable levels of energy and technology which would require millions of years for humans to achieve. Although I remember reading that New York Times said in an article in 1903 that it would take 1-10 million years for man to achieve technology to fly and 2 months later Wright Brothers invented airplane, we are just one breakthrough away from becoming intergalactic civilization, who knows maybe the next Einstein is sitting somewhere in the world looking at the sky and wondering why we see stars in the past.
Here is the thing we lack in India. We are willing to build a god damn time machine and use it to go 'back' in time, just to prove a point. The day we start thinking, to use that same time machine to go ahead of time, may be we can contribute to make this world better..
@@karthikpaniyoor5348 that is an incredibly stupid way to think! People thought going to the moon was wasteful and stupid but the resulting technologies helped our civilization tremendously. Going forward is physically possible and quite simple in theory anyways, you just have to travel as close to the speed of light as possible and time and distance will slow down considerably for you, meaning you could theoretically travel to the nearest star and back in a matter of months or even days but due to time dilation 4.5 years would have passed on earth, that is according to theory of relativity, this would however require unimaginable amounts of energy to reach close to light speed. Traveling back in time is currently considered impossible since you theoretically have to travel faster than light speed but that is impossible due to laws of physics as we currently understand them and if anyone could come up with a valid way to do that then I would say they would be the most important person in the history of mankind. Greatness isn't achieved by discarding impossible challenges. As for India I've seen quite a few Indians boast about their scientific achievements but those same people don't even understand basic scientific concepts and are not proud of the achievement itself but rather of the fact that "we did it" Which is incredibly unhealthy way to think about science.
@@rishavkumar1250 Pali prakit predates sanskrit. Sanskrit is fake news 😂 kuch bhi aake gapod do paper pe. Sabke proof mil Gaye bas ye brahman dharam ke proof nahi milte na ramayan na mahabharat sab bas fek rakha hain paper pe. Abe andhbhakto jake R.s Sharma ki ncert hi padh lo ek proof nahi de rakha hain kahi pe. Indus Valley civilisation mil gayi Buddha mil Gaye written form me ashoka mil Gaye Pali prakit mil gayi brahmi script or dhamm script me Gupta ke inscriptions mil Gaye sabke mil Gaye lekin brahman ki comics ka ek proof nahi mila na kisi ashokan pillar pe na megasthanese na dusre traveller me. Brahmano ka sab kuch Mughal ke time likha gaya aur 1000 saal se purana hain hi nahi kuch . Aaya samaj wale bolte hain lakhs of years old haan shayad dinosaur ke saath daudte honge brahman. Sarasvati river ka mention hain Abe gadho koi bhi kudhai me proof nahi mila tumhara jaha sarasvati river Bol ke khoda vaha bhi buddhism hi mila. Koi kaam me apne kuch bhi bolta rahe to wo Indian culture ho jayega kya. Indian culture wo hota hain jo logo ka culture ho sari dynasty sab log Pali prakit ka use kar rahe hain. Brothers ne aake khoja Indus valley civilisation ko Ashoka ko aur brahman claim karta hain hun 5000 saal purana hain abe 5000 saal se tum log ek dusre ke jaan ne bolke aarahe ho Sanskrit to tum logo to pata hi nahi tha Indus valley cilvilisation ka na ashoka na. Ashokan pillar ko shivling bol ke paisa kamane lage kahi par hanuman ki gada bol Diya pillar ko. Brothers ne aake decipher kiya Pali prakit ko. Tum logo ki Sanskrit Pali prakit se hi evolve hui hain 7 th se 8th century ad me aur classical to aur baad me aayi hain mughals ke time. Ye fake news mar failao ab sab pakad me aagaya hain.
We some are learning & interactive with language Pali & also well versed with bramhi script. That doesn’t mean these languages are alive. Off course they are dead language. It’s our personal interest for which we are taking part.
@@palashvijay4814 but most of the mantras they chant is in sanskrit.. so.. obviously they'll have to use the language.. but yeah they can misuse it and do scam people...
My mum is an Indonesian, and she taught me that almost every (if not all) inscription in sanskrit that were ever found in Indonesia was written in palavan script. That was an info that has been sleeping for many many years, but when I read the title of this video I was like, "aren't sanskrit written in pallava?"
@@mol-lyn Because too many people, culture, country think these days, they are very special, they inventrped the wheel, when they are probably very likely,even if partially, influenced by something earlier, something not so purely "they as they think". And this shows a web of connection between us.
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 Farming was around long before the Egyptians. Medicine is not culture nor an invention. Neither are math or astronomy. Printing would turn out to be a necessity and it would have been developed whether the chinese had technology for it first or not. You cannot patent nor invent a natural phenomenon or an evolutionary trait, so I don't know where you're getting the lucid dream and meditation parts.
When I hear the word,”Sanskrit” I said to myself,this is something sounds familiar to me, I got to watch the whole video. There are so much inscriptions written on the walls of the famous Angkor Wat temples in Cambodia. We called it,” the language of the Khmer during Angkor Wat era”. I don’t have a lot of knowledge in regards to the Khmer histories
Khemer were Buddhists. Hindu is Persian word meaning Black, Dacoit, Thief, etc. Hinduism didn't exist when Buddhist monks or Buddhism arrived in Cambodia.
@@ShellyShelly-f2gHindu is derived from Sindhu river called by then Greeks. Also Buddhism is way neo then original Saharan (current Hindu). Gautam Buddha (Siddhartha) was a Hindu before his followers started calling themselves Buddhist.
Very nicely packaged heap of crap. An honest history of language is the need of the hour. When these unbathed unkempt murderous villains showed up on our shores in the 1500s they didn't know how to spell grammar studies. Now they're telling us their ancestors taught us! What a ludicrous egotistical statement. Luckily Indians are questioning the basis for their assumptions and all will be revealed in time.
What is the Nepali origin? I'm guessing you derive ancestry from Indo-Europeans because your language and customs are Sanskritic but also more Chinese-looking features than someone from Bihar or UP.
@@elborrador333 Our history is diverse... Some of our ancestors migrated from indus valley whlist some of us have mongolian/ tibetian origin... Just like hindi, nepali language is derived from sanskrit too... Some people believe that nepali language was actually derived from Khas language which in turn was derived from sanskrit...
@alan hembrom you said "nepali are indo aryan" so i thought you were referring to the nepali people... but yes sanskrit language is an indo aryan language
@@edwardspencer9397 he may be PhD Holder in his place.. Coz of that still he is in doubt. Edward.. Brother.. English is newly Born.. I mean to say when ur/his ancestors were living in caves, my ancestors explored abt universe.. Wrote Vedas , Purans n etc.. So don't try to be judge here.. He has done PhD in missionary.. Edward what u understand by "Vedic science" ?
The earliest form of Sanskrit is that used in the Rig Veda (called Old Indic or Rigvedic Sanskrit). Amazingly, Rigvedic Sanskrit was first recorded in inscriptions found not on the plains of India but in in what is now northern Syria.
@@asura2600ji woh sanskrit ke words hi uss hue hai uss inscription me . Uss inscription ki language hurrian hai par uss inscription me bahut se words aise hai jo ki sanskrit ke hai naa ki hurrian language ke 😊
@@asura2600 ji iss video me hi bataya gya hai ki lipi aur bhasa me difference hai aur Sanskrit ko kayi lipio me likha jata tha pahle aur aap ek baar acche se mittani kingdom ke baare me padhiye unke naam bhi sanskrit me the aur unke inscription par sanskrit ka bahut jyada prabhav dikhta hai saaf saaf.
We are actually taught in school that in Hindi and Odia, the languages that I learnt, the letters are arranged based on where we voice those sounds and I always found it pretty neat.
Does any other language contain the scientific structure and vibratory efficacy of Sanskrit? perhaps not? Sanskrit is very unique and original to India just like the concept of zero!
Hindi and Odia are not much similar But Odia pronunciations are really tough for Non odias.Odia is a Classical language, odia has such sounds that doesn't exist in hindi
@@Saikalyan19 Classical Sanskrit has the subset of the same grammar rules but new vocabulary (borrowings) albeit smartly adjusted to the Vedic phonetic rules. And the vocabulary set of BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit) is one more else with grammatical rules still more reduced to the basic aspects. I can read and understand Mantras, Dharanis and short Sutras in BHS but I can't virtually understand Vedic Sanskrit. The same with Latin - I can read and understand medieval historical chronicles, legal documents and magical incantations but from the Classical Latin I barely understand Julius Caesar. A simplified subset of the same grammar but new and smaller vocabulary similar to the modern languages.
@@theodiscusgaming3909 Sanskrit never evolved . It was created to be rigid and not changed . Hindi is not evolved Sanskrit it is mix of Prakrit and Indo -Iranian languages .
@@JohnDoe19991 Vedic Sanskrit is a little different from Classical Sanskrit. The Sanskrit which we study today has many new or changed words and grammar.
@@kunalrao2134 No, there is no evidence that has been peer reviewed. I understand that post-colonial states feel a sense of shame and consequently hype up their native histories, but at some point you’ve got to be mature and objective about things.
I am a linguistic enthusiast. Your presentation is quite studied. You made aspects simple. It indicates your laborious background work to prepare this. Great sir.
1)Keezhadi excavation already shown link between INDUS SCRIPT and TAMIL BRAHMI. Tamil people have tradition writing name on pots. Lower layer in keezhadi dated to 1000BC found similar with indus script along some Graffiti marks. Middle layer date 600 BC found with Graffiti mixed with tamil Brahmi. Above layer have fully developed tamil brahmi. 2) pulimankombai inscription assumped date to be 490BC . Azhagankulam, Kodumanal,porunthalur, adichanallur,etc excavations shown tamil brahmi dated to 600-500BC.
@@francisrajanlobo2698 brahmi is term coined and agreed by scientific community. Brahmi is borrowed from Phoenician alphabet around 1200-800BC.. English/german Latin alphabet also evolved from Phoenician alphabet. Tamili is referred in pali literature to denote tamil scripts. Tamili is not scientific term, it's regional term.
@@manikandan-ml9gd 1200 - 800 bc not any proof have. Pali not related with tamili. Even paali word of school. Change in pali language like. So proof have in scientific. Science proof only world accept too not in religion way. UNESCO told 1430 ad times record make it. Approved.
@@manikandan-ml9gd phoenician alphabet around both side coin. Greek king name antides have. Antides have 1,2,3,4 . Greek antides long year only give too. 2200 or 2300 times not in 1500 - 800 not like? Greek carbon dating 2200 / 2300 times only. Pali or tamli you can not read or speak directly but later bali word loan get it. Seven PODAGOAS times relationship with east asia time. Indonesia, sumuthara, java settle people.
Now this is called a well researched and very well articulated video....people who commented on your previous video most probably don't know how complex the study of languages and scripts is. And they probably got that shallow knowledge from internet. Kudos to you
I was taught or told like Sanskrit is the oldest language of earth and every language on earth evolved from it. Now after watching this video i'm speechless
Another great video! Suggestion for future video: what is the history of written numbering systems? What does it mean that modern numbers are Arabic numerals? How did those evolve and how does it relate to language?
Arabic numerals originate in India - It's interesting, many of the Indian writing systems shown in this video have their own corresponding number systems, including the old Brahma script ("Hindu-Arabic numeral system " on Wikipedia has a table of them). Eventually a set of numbers was modified for use by the Arabs, and this system was popularized in Europe in the early 1200s by Fibonacci. I would assume that the number systems evolved in a similar way with the other Indic scripts.
@J D Dear friend, I understand your emotions, However one must be vigilant of the times he is in and hence act accordingly, not forgoing the truth but with the times. Therefore I do not confirm with you as per. It is true that, out of all the existing civilizations, India is the oldest and hence it's not far fetched to assume all other civilisations must have borrowed from India on the simple basis of logic and reason which is also supported with evidences, however civilizations develop in tandem and borrow from one another. In the case of India, the earlier and contemporary civilizations from which India had much give and take are extinct and there remanants have formed the newer civilizations who also have cooperatively developed with India albeit borrowing much and giving less, which would be a normal course of events for Senior-junior. The Indian development has categorised these phenomenon of holding the truth but respecting the times, as 'Shruti' and 'Smriti', The Indian civilization of today is not outside of time or of natural course of events and hence is subject to all the natural developments that occur for a civilization. This cycle of time has all the ingredients as described through unravelling of Historical development of this world and India is a part of it. Nonetheless I agree with you on the Spiritual level, not forgoing the truth. The Shruti are timeless and so is the Sanatan Dharma, once cycle leads to another and the repitition goes on but for one who has attained 'Moksha'. The smritis however are bound to this timeline and true only for this 'Manvanter'. Shree Rama, Shree Krishna are the 'Avatars' within this Manvanter, that is with the times.
The earliest Sanskrit inscriptions were found in what is now northern Syria and date back to around 1450-1350 BCE. These inscriptions are written in cuneiform script and are considered to be the earliest form of Sanskrit, also known as Old Indic or Rigvedic Sanskrit. The inscriptions were left behind by the Mitanni people, who ruled over the upper Euphrates-Tigris basin during this time. Although the Mitanni spoke a language called Hurrian, many of their kings and local elites had Sanskrit names. The inscriptions also mention Vedic gods such as Varuna, Mitra, and Indra, and are thought to be roughly contemporaneous with the composition of the core of the Rigveda.
This was such a well-made video, thank you so much! Your precise way of expressing yourself makes your concepts not only easy to understand, but also avoid ambiguity and some common points of misunderstanding. Obviously, people with an agenda and a personal identification with specific languages may not agree with you, but the objectivity with which you present what is historically known is admirable and provides a useful tool for the layperson interested in linguistics. Thank you!
The invention of the Semitic written system is not the shape of the letters or the addition of some letters and vowels or the order of the letters. It is the abstract idea of reducing human language into primary unit sounds that can't be divided farther and assigning a written shape to that unit sound. this brilliant idea reduced the use of characters by a factor in the thousands.
@Star Star Although, cuneiform is a mostly syllabic writing system with really abstract shapes, that would have been even more abstract by the time the Phoenician alphabet was invented
I greatly appreciate all if your video presentations. I have learned a lot from you. The Cambodian language used a combination of Khmer, Sanskrit, and Pali. The written Khmer language was derived from the Abudiga Brahmi script that appeared in ancient Cambodia around the 6th century. Since then, the script had transformed about seven times to look like the present written form that is used in Cambodia.
@True Light even murayans and guptas did, u ll find beautiful hindu - Buddhist fusion in entire sea countries. And we know that ashoka spread buddism in sea countries
What a great video ✅. I’ve really been looking for the ages of the vedas and found so much conflicting info, this is was by far the best I’ve seen, thank you 🙏
It may be that one culture finally reached prominence and began trading with another culture and the languages mixed by accepting new products and definitions from another culture. This alleviates the burden of deciding which came first.
Deriving a new verb in turkish 1.(Der-mek= ~to set layout & to provide)=ter'kib & ter'tib etmek (used after the verbs which ending with a consonant) Verb+"Der" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (ter-tir-tür/der-dir-dür/er-ir-ür) Verb+"Dar" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (tar-tır-tur/dar-dır-dur/ar-ır-ur) (ak-mak>aktarmak)(bakmak>baktırmak)(almak>aldırmak)(çıkmak>çıkarmak)(kaçmak>kaçırmak) 2.(Et-mek = ~ to make) (mostly used after the verbs ending with a vowel sound and when the suffix "der" was used before) Verb+"T" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (t-it-üt) Verb+"T" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (t-ıt-ut) (ak-mak>akıtmak)(bakmak>bakıtmak)(yürümek>yürütmek)(yırmak>yırtmak)(öldürmek>öldürtmek) 3.(Eş=partner) (together or with partner)-(all together or altogether)-(each other or about each one) Verb+"Eş" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (eş-iş-üş) Verb+"Aş" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (aş-ış-uş) (gör-mek-görüşmek) (bulmak>buluşmak)(uğramak-uğraşmak) (çalmak-çalışmak) 4.(Al / El)= come to a state/a form through someone or something (to get being ...ed) Verb+"El" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (el-il-ül) Verb+"Al" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (al-ıl-ul) (it's used as N to shorten some verbs) (gör-mek-görülmek) (satmak>-satılmak)(vermek>verilmek)(yemek>yeyilmek/yenmek) 5."En"=own diameter(self environment)=(about own self) Verb+"En" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (en-in-ün) Verb+"An" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (an-ın-un) (gör-mek>görünmek) (bulmak>bulunmak) (tıkamak>tıkanmak) (kıvırmak>kıvranmak) Mak/Mek...(emek)=exertion /process Git=Go (verb root) Git-mek= to go (the process of going) (Git-der-mek>gittirmek)=1.Götürmek= to take away (2. Gidermek=~to resolve) (Git-en-der-mek>gidindirmek)= Göndermek= to send Gel-mek= to come (Gel-der-mek>geltirmek)=Getirmek= to bring 1.Gelmek...2.Getirmek...3.Getirtmek...4.Getirttirmek..5.Getirttirtmek..and it's going so on Dür-mek= to roll it up (to make it becomes a roll) Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis ( törmek=old meaning)-(to stir it , to mix it(current meaning) (döngü)törüş/törüv=tour (törüv-çi=turqui)(tör-geş=turkish)=tourist...(törük halk=mixed people in ownself) (Tör-en-mek)>dörünmek= to rotate oneself /(2. to turn by oneself) (Törn-mek)>Dönmek= to turn oneself (Dön-der-mek)>döndürmek= to turn something (Dön-eş-mek)>dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something (Dön-eş-der-mek)>dönüştürmek= to convert/ to transform Yürü-mek= to go on (to walk) (Yürü-et-mek)>yürütmek= to make it go on (Yürü-et-der-mek)>yürüttürmek=to be provider ensuring it's going on simple wide tense for positive sentences Var-mak= to arrive (for the thick voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Ar-ır-ur) Er-mek= to get (at) (for the subtle voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Er-ir-ür) for negative sentences Ma=not Bas-mak= to dwell on /tread on (bas git= ~leave and go) Maz=(negativity suffix)=(ma-bas) =(No pass)=Na pas=not to dwell on > vaz geç= give up (for the thick voiced words) Ez-mek= to crush (ez geç= ~think nothing about) Mez=(negativity suffix)=(ma-ez) =(No crush)=doesn't > es geç = skip (for the subtle voiced words) Tan= the dawn Tanımak= to recognize (~to get the differences of) (Tanı-ma-bas)= tanımaz= ~doesn't recognize (Tanı-et-ma-bas)= tanıtmaz= doesn't make it get recognized (Tanı-en-ma-bas)= tanınmaz= doesn't inform about oneself (doesn't get known by any) (Tanı-eş-ma-bas)= tanışmaz= doesn't get known each other Tanışmak= to get to know each other =(~to meet first time) Danışmak= to get information from each other Uç=~ top point (Uç-mak)= to fly (Uç-a-var)= Uçar=it flies (arrives at flying) (Uç-ma-bas)= uçmaz= doesn't fly (~gives up flying) (Uç-der-ma-bas)=(uçturmaz)=uçurmaz= doesnt fly it (doesn't make it fly) (Uç-eş-ma-bas)=uçuşmaz= doesn't (all)together fly (Uç-al-ma-bas)=uçulmaz= doesn't get being flied Su=water (Suv)=fluent-flowing (suvu)=Sıvı=fluid, liquid Suv-mak=~ to make it flow onwards/upward (>sıvamak) Suy-mak=~ to make it flow over Süv-mek=~ to make it flow inwards Sür-mek=~ to make it flow on something Suv-up =liquefied=(soup) Sür-up(shurup)=syrup Suruppah(chorba)=soup Suruppat(sherbet)=sorbet sharap=wine mashrubat=beverage (Süp-mek)=~ to make it flow outwards (süp-der-mek>süptürmek)>süpürmek=to sweep Say-mak=~ to make it flow one by one (from the mind) = ~ to count ~ to deem (sayı=number) (bilgisayar=computer) Söy-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (Söy-le-mek= to make the sentences flowing through the mind =~to say, ~to tell ) Sev-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (to the heart) = to love Söv-mek=~ call names (to say whatever's on own mind) Süy-mek=~ to make it flow from inside (süyüt) =Süt= milk Soy-mak=~ to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob ) (Soy-en-mak)>soyunmak=to undress (Sıy-der-mak)>sıyırmak= skimming, ~skinning Siy-mek=~ to make it flow downwards =to pee Siyitik>Sidik= urine Süz-mek=~ to make it lightly flow from up to downwards (~to filter, strain out) Sez-mek=~ to make it lightly flow into the mind (~to perceive, to intuit) Sız-mak=~ to get flowed slightly/slowly (~to infiltrate) Sun-mak= to extend it forwards (presentation, exhibition, to serve up) Sün-mek=to expand reaching outwards (sünger=sponge) Sın-mak=to reach by extending upwards or forwards Sin-mek=to shrink (oneself) by getting down or back (to lurk, to hide onself) Sön-mek=to get decreased by getting out or in oneself (to be extinguished) Sağ-mak= ~ to make it's poured down (Sağanak=downpour) (sağ-en-mak)>sağınmak=~ to make oneself poured from thought into emotions (Sağn-mak)>San-mak= ~ to make it pour from thought to idea (to arrive at the idea) Sav-mak=~ to make it pour outwards (2.>put forward- set forth in) (sağan)=Sahan=the container to pour water (Sav-der-mak)>(savdurmak)> savurmak (Sav-der-al-mak)>(savurulmak)> savrulmak=to get scattered/driven away (Sav-en-mak)>savunmak=to defend (Sav-en-al-mak)>savunulmak=to get being defended (Sav-eş-mak)1.>savaşmak=to pour blood / to shed each other's blood (savaş= the war) 2.savuşmak=to get spilled around.(altogether-downright)=(sıvışmak=~running away in fear) (Sav-eş-der-mak)1.>savaştırmak=(~to make them fight each other)2.>savuşturmak =(ward off-fend off) Sürmek = ~ to make it flow on something (Sür-e--er)= sürer = lasts /gets go on /drives / spreads on (Sür-der-mek)> sürdürmek= to make it continue (~to sustain) (Sür-der-e--er)= sürdürür = makes it last forwards ,(makes it continue) (Sür-ma-ez)= sürmez = doesn't drive / gives up fllowing on / skips the spread of (Sür-der-ma-ez)= sürdürmez =doesn't make it go on (doesn't make it continue) (Sür-al-ma-ez)= sürülmez =doesnt get driven by any.. (2.doesnt get followed by any) Sür-en-mek> sürünmek= (~to makeup) (~rides odor) (~to paint oneself) Sürü-mek= to take it away forward / backward on the floor (Sürü-e--er)=sürür=takes it away forward (Sürü-et-mek)=(sürütmek) sürtmek=~to rub (Sürü-al-mek)=2.sürülmek=to get expelled (Sürü-en-mek)=2.sürünmek=to creep on (Sürü-en--der-mek)=süründürmek=~to make it's creeping on (Sürü-et-en-mek)=sürtünmek=to have a friction (Sürü-et--eş-mek)=sürtüşmek=to get rubbed each other (Gör-mek)=to see (Gör-e-er)=görür=(that) sees (Gör-ma-ez)=görmez= doesn't see (Gör-en-ma-ez)= görünmez= doesn't show oneself (doesn't seem) (Gör-al-ma-ez)= görülmez= doesn't get seen by any.. (Gör-eş-ma-ez)= görüşmez= doesn't get seen each other (Görs-der-ma-ez)>göstermez=(that) doesn't show (Görs)=(Khorus) Göz=Eye (Görs-et-mek)>görsetmek=to make it visible (Görs-der-mek)>göstermek=to show 1.(la/le = to make via)-~getting by means of ~to do through it -to make by this way ~getting with ) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.le-mek-..la-mak) (.le-et-mek- .la-et-mak) (.le-et-der-mek-.la-et-der-mak) (.lemek-.lamak) (.letmek- .latmak) (.lettirmek-.lattırmak) Tıŋı= the tune (timbre) Tıŋı-la-mak= to get the sound out >(Tınlamak=~reacting /answering )(~to take heed of) Tıŋ-mak= to react vocally Tıngırdatmak=to try playing the musical instrument Tiŋi-le-mek=to get the sound in >(Dinlemek= to listen) Tiŋ-mek=to get at the silence >(Dinmek= to calm down / to get quiescent 2.(laş/leş =(ile-eş)= (to become equal with.) (to get the same) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.leşmek-.laşmak.) (.leştirmek-.laştırmak) (.leştirtmek- .laştırtmak) 3.(lan/len =(ile-en)= (to become with)- (to get like this )(to have -this way.) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.lenmek-.lanmak.) (.lendirmek-.landımak) (.lendirtmek- .landırtmak) by reiterations (Parıl Parıl) parıl-da-mak= to gleam (Kıpır Kıpır) kıpır-da-mak (Kımıl Kımıl) kımıl-da-mak by colors Ak= white Ağar-mak = to turn to white Kara= black Karar-mak=to become blackened Kızıl= red Kızar-mak= to turn red (to blush) (to be toasted) by a whim or a want Su-sa-mak= to thirst Kanık-sa-mak öhö-tsu-ur (öksür-mek)=to cough tüh-tsu-ur (tüksür-mek/tükürmek)=to spit out tıh-tsu-ur (tıksır-mak) hak-tsu-ur (aksır-mak) hap-tsu-ur (hapşur-mak)=to sneeze
Only if Nalanda survived, all these questions would have been answered, as Nalanda library stored manuscripts in every scholarly language of that time.
@@fuzzyblue74 What is your purpose to prove here Bharat never had Buddhism in rural areas which has always been the majority of the population Buddhism was in only some cities of northern India and it ended because of the invasion and introduction of a much more violent religion Islam and Buddhism doesn't allow you to weild weapons Buddhism is not a religion for ages it just can't survive of the basis of peace Now I expect you to be from the abhramic religions if yes then tell me what was the need to kill all indigenous religions from japan Philippines Australia Indonesia newzealand Egypt Iran Africa and Americas Who are you to decide your religion is supreme and jesus/Allah is one true god
The Sanskrit language is written in numerous scripts in different regions across the Indian subcontinent. The use of Devanagari is fairly recent. The present Devanagari script (the most widely used script to write the Sanskrit language) is a fusion of different North Indian scripts. The Sanskrit language can be written using many different scripts (depending on which region of India uses a particular script). There are so many different ancient scripts and ancient languages of India that this topic of scripts used in India deserves a video of its own in order to understand what languages were written in which scripts and which scripts were utilized to record which languages in India's history. For example: A list of eighteen ancient scripts is found in the early Jaina texts, such as the Paṇṇavaṇā Sūtra (2nd century BCE) and the Samavāyāṅga Sūtra (3rd century BCE). These Jain script lists include Brahmi at number 1 and Kharoṣṭhi at number 4, but also Javanaliya (probably Greek) and others not found in the Buddhist lists. To add to this complexity: The Brahmi script is the originator of most of the present Indian scripts, including Devanagari, Bengali, Tamil, and Malayalam, and also Dravidian scripts derive from the Brahmi script. The sudden appearance of the Brahmi writing system is one of the great mysteries of writing in India, as there is no evidence of inscriptions beforehand. The Kharosthi script s the sister script and contemporary of Brahmi. It was used in the Gandhara culture of North-Western India and is sometimes also called the Gandhari Script. Its inscriptions have been found in the form of Buddhist Texts from present clay Afghanistan and Pakistan. Kharosthi of northwest Pakistan and Afghanistan seems to be clearly derived from the imperial Aramaic script used by the Persians who ruled over parts of the Indus Valley for two centuries until the arrival of Alexander the Great. The Gupta script (also known as the Late Brahmi script) was used for writing Sanskrit in the Gupta period. It gave rise to the Nagari, Sarada and Siddham scripts which in turn gave rise to the most important scripts of India such as Devanagari, Bengali etc. The Nagari script was an Eastern variant of the Gupta script. It is an early form of the Devanagari script. It branched off into many other scripts such as Devanagari, Bengali, and Tibetan etc. It was used to write both Prakrit and Sanskrit. The Devanagari script is the main script at present to write standard Hindi, Rhajastani, Marathi, Maithili, Kashmiri, Sindhi, and Nepali as well as Santhali, Konkani and many other Indian languages. It is also used presently to write Sanskrit and is one of the most used writing systems in the world. It is composed of Deva meaning, (God) and Nagari meaning, (city), which meant that it, was both religious and urbane or sophisticated. Other scripts, such as Gujarati and Bengali, were developed or derived from Devanagari. The Grantha script is one of the earliest Southern scripts to originate from Brahmi. It branched off into Tamil and Malayalam scripts, which are still used to write those languages, It is also the predecessor of the Sinhala script used in Sri Lanka. A variant of Grantha called Pallava was taken by Indian merchants in Indonesia, where it led to the development of many South-East Asian scripts. It was used in Tamil Nadu to write the Sanskrit Granthas and hence, was named Grantha. The Tamil script is the script used to write the Tamil language in southern parts of India and Sri Lanka. It evolved from Grantha, the Southern form of Brahmi. According to the epigraphers- All Indian scripts are derived from Brahmi. There are three main families of scripts: 1. Devanagari, which is the basis of the languages of northern and western India: Hindi, Gujarati, Bengali, Marathi, Dogri, Panjabi, etc. 2. Dravidian which is the basis of Telugu, Kannada 3. Grantha is a subsection of the Dravidian languages such as Tamil and Malayalam, but is not as important as the other two. Regional linguistic differences also helped Indic writing proliferate into many scripts in both South and Southeast Asia. It became prestigious for every major language to have its own script, though what evolved into today’s Devanagari (which began to emerge by the 7th century CE) script retained a special prestige due to its close association with Sanskrit.
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I feel like it's important to mention that languages can not only be conveyed via writing and sounds, but also by signs/gestures. Not *entirely* relevant to the topic, but I saw the definition of language at the beginning, and the sign language teacher inside me couldn't help but reminds others like always lol
女性愛理ん your point is very true.. As anthropologists we often struggle with the question when human "language"-like communication started, since our vocalchords did develope a quite late, but socialization needed a form of language and this could go back in time as far as 70k years ago or even further
IIRC the definition i learnt uses the word "Medium". For comunication the language is a "Code" and the sounds are gestures the "Meduim" where that code is transmitted. It's a good model, is adaptable for a LOOOT of different times of communication
@Nihilist Seeker well current Nepali bhasa is also standardized from khas bhasa . I am no expert on this I am sharing this from someone else view which I thought was legit .
@Nihilist Seeker Sanskrit can't be a common man's language buddy lot of work is done to make this scientific language. It's a work of geniuses not a command man
@Nihilist Seeker so you think Sanskrit was comman men language? It just doesn't fit with evolution does it? I believe some cult of geniuses made it from lot of hard work
Really appreciate the research that goes into creating these videos. Always so much to learn and think about! Thank you for being such a thorough educator :)
The modern writing of Sanskrit like devanagari and bramhi might be younger. But linear A, b and IVC script itself was writing Sanskrit only and that makes it the oldest written language. The transformation from surviving IVC script (which are just seals with name of the person) to brahmi to other Indian written languages is quite apparent and impossible to unsee once you see it and the only reason 'experts' are not making the connection is dishonesty and agenda
@@deepika2440 but most scholars argued that the Brahmi script had originated earlier than the 3rd century BCE. This claim is based on the composition of a set of texts, the Brahmanas, which were attached to the Vedic literature during the 6th century BCE. The Brahmanas are the only section of the Vedic corpus written mostly in prose, unlike the earlier sections of the Vedas which are hymns for recitation, specially designed for oral transmission.
@@deepika2440 Sanskrit was the language spoken by the elite as early as at least 2000 BCE and Prakrit was the dialect of the masses. Both Sanskrit and Prakrit were written in the Brahmi script.
@@deepika2440 Sanskrit (or Prakrit) belongs to Tamils and has been predominantly used by Tamil kings (Chera/Chola/Pandias - Devars - Lords) to promote unity, culture, religion, economy, literature, knowledge, and science (Linguafranca). This can be gauged from the fact that these kings not only ruled the entire India but also the world. They have been the once dominant world power and are the true natives of Indus Valley Civilization. Later Sanskrit has been adopted by various other kings and dynasties of Indian sub-continent.
No one cares. No one. This video is about Sanskrit, please don't spam all videos with , "Oh, what about Keezhadi, Keezhadi, Tamil is oldest....oh...." Meh. Sanskrit is in a different league altogether 🏅🏅🛕🙂
Well the whole theory that Brahmi came from Aramaic is no longer valid, because more pre-Ashokan inscriptions have been found recently of earlier time than 250BCE. Examples include Brahmi script of Anuradhapura, Srilanka of 5th-6th century BCE, Tamil Brahmi script from Kaladi, Tamilnadu from 4th century BCE. Please include them.
Yeah, it is strange that he only did partial research on this topic... Why would anyone talk about something so complicated like sanskrit and risk making mistakes - like the one you mention. There are many other mistakes in this video, so it is clear that youtubers just dnt have the respect for foreign history, systems or culture.
@@summergram Plus they read more from colonized British fake history of Aryan-Invasion Theory, so anything Indian has to be imported from middle-east and Central Asia. :-) The Indus valley civilization and following Vedic civilization are a nightmare to them. Because other older civilizations like Babylon, Egyptians, Roman, Mayan are destroyed easily by the European, but only Indian and Chinese civilization stood tall to those invaders and still thriving.
There are Jewish burial tombs around 300bc in South India. So contact with middleast and india is very old. They might have introduced early version of ibrahim script. Writing systems are adopted based of ease of writing. Just like we use english alphabets while texting in our mother tongue using phones. Becoz it is easier to type. It is very possible Indians might have dropped native scripts for foreign ones. We still haven't deciphered Indus script. Until then we can only make conclusions based on evidence we have. i.e. brahmi might have roots in Phoenician
This is a good video. Although many emotional statements will fall out based on where we live and what language we love, this rational way of understanding and accepting will have to be done. Which is the oldest is good to know. Can you make something like which is the most influential? Also why was chinese, japnese etc left out. Or did I miss that video! Anyways thank you.
The Chinese and Japanese script have no relationship with the other writting systems discussed. The point of the video was to show how most writting systems descend from Egyptian Hieroglyphs thanks to the spread of the Phoenician Alphabet. The Han Characters were a Completely independent development. Just like Sumerian Cuneiform, Mesoerican Glyps and many many others
Look into Dravidian scripts used in India, they must have evolved from a ancient script/ language (idk which) that existed in Southern Asia, which later evolved into Southern India as proto - Tamil and other SE Asian countries as their own scripts. Also it's strange that a lot of Korean and Tamil worlds seem to match, despite the two countries (India and Kor) being nowhere near one another. Could be due to trade which we know the Chola empire with their massive navy would thrive on trade with ancient China/ Korea and other East Asian countries.
@@JOJO-of8vl Another possibility... One of the ancient Korean royal family was from Ayodhya in North India. I got to know very recently but was surprised that some Koreans are aware of this. I don't remember the details but there are a few TH-cam videos on the subject.
I'm impressed by the depth and understandability of your videos. They're so clear, and well explained, I love them. I'm definitely subscribing, maybe getting some posters in the future. I'm a bit history buff, and language / writing systems are the part that interests me the most, the un-cracked languages and systems are like the enigma codes of our day, and I love learning about them and the attempts made to decypher and understand them. The ones we have cracked, it's like if I wrote something today, and 5,000 years later they were able to find it out (poor people, getting their hopes up and it'd probably be some really awkward letter constantly apologising that I couldn't think of anything to write down and telling them I'm sorry I wasted their time).
Rig Veda mentions things live the river Saraswati which dried up around 7-9000 years ago , and it speaks of such as if it were present at that time. This and other findings suggest the Rig Veda is even older, and considering the fact that most hindu texts were originally passed down orally , it could only mean that the vedas are even older.
What a religious text can't possibly absorb information from other sources and must be a first hand accounts of the event it is quoting. Is what you sound like. The old testament mentions events in the distant past before it was composed, no rational person goes huh must be contemporarnoius accounts of events.
@@ANTSEMUT1 bro I never said that. I only mean to say that recent evidence suggests that Hinduism is older than what western historians suggest. To be very honest tho, I personally believe there is no One religion called Hinduism in reality. It's a conglomerate and it is dynamic unlike Abrahamic Ones.
@@ANTSEMUT1 bro , the bible is full of shit that absolutely sounds like fiction. Hinduism is completely different from even the western idea of a religion. We're open to questioning, debate and everything else. Just to let you know the context , I myself am an Athiest Hindu, and also a Statistician and a man of Science.
@@SattickDas2001 you framed it like it was a primary source for those events, not a second hand account it got off something earlier and incorporated into it's mythos. Also Hinduism probably has roots in proto Indo European religion conglomerating with indus valley religion and other indigenous religious motifs.
@@ANTSEMUT1 anyways , do some research before you say sometimes. The vedas aren't even religious texts , they are a set of hyms that were originally passed by word of mouth. So it is obvious that quite a lot of information there is pretty dubious. But the archaeo-astronomical data present in the texts can help in uncovering a lot of information that we are yet to know!
8,212 BCE -- The Veda or Vedic hymns are a set of religious hymns that were introduced into the societies of Earth. They came forward in spoken tradition, memorized, from generation to generation. "The Hymn to the Dawn Child'' includes an idea called the "cycle of the physical universe": the creation, growth, conservation, decay and death or destruction of energy and matter in a space. These cycles produce time. The same set of hymns describes the "theory of evolution". Here is a tremendous body of knowledge which contains a great deal of spiritual truth. The Vedas were learned by them, memorized and carried forward verbally for 7,000 years before being committed to written form.
Whatever you have written may be true because the Indian subcontinent had had a long oral tradition of passing the acquired knowledge to future generations but the timeline of 7000 years does not seem realistic for the simple reason that the Harappan civilization preceded the Vedic civilization and Harappan civilization is estimated to have existed till 2500 BC. More information is expected on this.
Informative and well-presented. Thank you. Please note that the first half of the word "Sanskrit" is pronounced like the English word suns, not like the English sans.
@@thetruthseeker5448 the speaker begins by suggesting that original Sunskrit [which he knows not how to pronounce) is "probably" from Aramaic. By the end of his presentation even he himself doubts his own original comments. there is the suggestion that Sanskrit may have been invented by someone,, May i suggest that "Like the table of the atomic elements" Some great sage received it in his consciousness and it continued on, Too many linguistic connections show that it existed long before any middle eastern languages, In the indus valley archeological discoveries of recent years the skeleton of a Yogi in Lotus posture has been dated at about 7,000 years - how many millennia prior to that was required to develop this advanced science and what language did they speak?
@@federicoparente3310 dude, he never made those claims, he said language isn't the same as script (and it isn't, otherwise German and English would be the same thing as Latin), and that the sanskrit language is ancient and rich, there's just no evidence of it being written down before it came in contact with Greeks and Persians. He never claimed Aramaic is a linguistic ancestor of sanskrit, he never said anything you claim he did.
@@utubetruthteller Dude, I don't think so. If you find clearly about the history of Tamil language, it had caused far more impact than Sanskrit language. The history that we are learning about languages of India is been biased and deceived by current ruling system.
@@shanmugamshan2459 mere rhetoric wont convince people, if tamil was so great why dont tamil priest dont use tamil mantras for puja, sanskrit grammar is superior to any other indo European languages like Latin and greek, English let alone tamil language, its quite futile to argue against that.
I liked to see that many of yours viewers are very enthusiastic to know about ancient languages like Sanskrit.. and thier comments in your comment box is not a single rubbish thay said in their comments..👏👏 very knowledgeable information you have shared with us
Hey Matt thanks so much for keeping up with your videos really helping me with quarantine, always look forward to vids, you are among my favourite TH-camrs
The earliest Tamil writing is attested in inscriptions and potsherds from the 5th century bce. Three periods have been distinguished through analyses of grammatical and lexical changes: Old Tamil (from about 450 bce to 700 ce), Middle Tamil (700-1600), and Modern Tamil (from 1600).
Many Indians here misunderstood. The video does not state that Sanskrit emerge around 500BC but all the scripts that was used to write sanskrit did not trace back further than 500 BC. Not that the Indian civilisation did not have a writing system of their own or that they did not write down Sanskrit using whatever script they had but sometime in 600 to 500 BC Indian scholars seem to have taken a liking for the Aramaic system. They did not use the actual ancient Aramaic symbols which can be seen in modern Hebrew but they use the system and created their own circularic square symbols to write their languages both sacred and temporal.
Just to add PS. Ancient people were not bothered by narrow ultra nationalistic pride. If foreign cultures had something good that they coulf use , they readily adopted them to their own use.
This is a very interesting video. Kindly put some light on Odia scripts too. During ancient time it was called as Kalingan script. The modern name of Kalinga is Odisha (Britishers called it Orissa)
@@ANTSEMUT1 you wanna fight English ? Ok . Let me tell you why Britishers is correct . 1) my autocorrect didn’t highlight it 😂 2) The British = the term ‘Britishers’ . The British called it Orissa = Britishers called it Orissa .
Thanks for giving useful insights about the languages like Vedic Sanskrit ( which was the language of Vedic hyms), the indigenous Prakrit languages of ancient North India and later Classical Sankrit (which was literary and religious language of later Hindu literature.) And scripts such as Brahmi and Devnagri (which is used to write Modern Sanskrit, Hindi, modern Marathi etc. The present day North Indian languages are probably a mixture of indigenous tribal and regional languages, Sanskrit and many loan words from Persian, Afgan and Turkic languages.
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802keezhadi findings are the best examples for it it dates back to 3rd Century BCE same as Ashokan Brahmi and there are lots of similarities between Tamizhi and the letters inscription in the pots of Mohenjodaro
Grand Saraswati of Earliest Rig Veda times, Different from her flow in Ramayana times, Greatly Reduced in Mahabharat times. These phenomena are dated long back by the researchers from the time you mentioned.
@Jonita Singh 200 years later U, Me, Every Being Existing Now will be myth to the then existing generation. And this is the truth of the thinking capacity of the human mind. We go to where we come from. Just a fleeting memory ☺️
@Jonita Singh Vishnu atop a snake in milk of ocean is from the Purānas which are metaphorical but Ramāyana and Mahābharata are called Ithihāsa meaning - So happened.
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho It was said to be located in Then Madurai under the patronage of 89 Pandya kings,[2][3][4] during this period. It is said to have lasted for 4,440 years, and this would put the First Sangam between 9600 BCE to 5200 BCE.[5][6]
allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho in how many comments you blabber like this? Can you show proof of Sanskrit scripture on rocks, pillars , stone tablets or pot sheds dating back 300 BCE. Video clearly tells that we dont have any such proof.. talking about million years ago blah blah blah is waste. Atleast prakrit has edicts 300 BC proof. Why not we didnt get proof of Sanskrit scriptures. On wide spread indian land, you say sanskrit is mother for all new languages and old languages but still you didn't have scriptutures and edicts olders than 100 CE. Simply show an epic or vedic text dating 1400 AD, which claims itself many thousand years ago. What if the guy who wrote just wrote it with poetic exaggeration? And now I can create a language that is similar to sanskrit and copy and use all letters and meanings from sanskrit and i can claim all those older kings are from my language. Will you accept? Have some logic sense and lateral thinking.. if I'm the ruler, and destroy the other language, and then 1000 years from now who would know the difference. Since there are contemporary languages like sanskrit in later ages, tamil used many words from sanskrit/ prakrit. It happens because thousands of years people from different languages living and communicating. Jain and buddhist monks who travelled and spread intermixing of languages.
2:30, yeah, I get really upset nowadays lmao, when people can't tell the difference between Spoken Language and Written Script. The 2 are entirely different. You can adopt any script and ascribe it to any language. Language is primarily spoken rather than written. Heck, you can literally even hypothetically write English with Arabic and Farsi letters أس ا هٔم دُوٍگ رايت ناو، سي؟ إت'س إنگلِش، بَت إن ء دِفرهنت سكرِپت. Yeah, I may have actually spent a while with it lol, coming up with Grammar rules as well, but see my point? You can easily adapt any writing system to any language.
I saw in quora somebody who was arguing that the Turkish Latin alphabet made much more sense than the English Latin alphabet by writing English sentences in Turkish and they were much faster to read. I’m wondering now what would happen if languages were just transcribed in whatever scripts were used in a place, I.e. if you are writing English in Israel, you’d write it like this: הלוֹ! האַוֹ אר יוּ? אַי אם גוּד, תנק יוּ! אַי פינד דיס רילי איזי!
FYI.... In Mahabharata which is also in sanskrit..... there is a river mentioned known as 'Sarswati' and this Lost Saraswati river dried up some 5000 years ago..... and i am giving you the data mentioned by British reaserchers who once came to India just to loot Wealth from India around 250 year's ago
From where did you get this 5000 year old script? Is it kept in some museum? Have you seen it? Can you tell me the names of this British researchers or where are their research papers published? Please send me the references, if you have any. I won't accept Whatsapp university forwards as evidence 🤣
@@paragdesai1370 so u r trying to say that u don't accept sources from what's app University but u fully trust British sources..... r they ur forefather's or what 🤔
Thanks for the difference between writing system and language... Kindly consider making a separate video on South Asian Languages, Indian languages, Tamil (recently written Tamil dated to 600BCE by kiladi excavation) Its a humble request to see all in one place.
@@seigeengine Sorry ! Always you ppl in disputed mind... What to do myths become history... But True never can be hide or steal ! One day it will come out... 600 BCE it's just beginning !!!🤷🏿♂️ Our govt didn't done full excavation more than acre of land is there !!! Aathichanalur excavation report waiting for more than 30 yrs... That dated beyond everything !!!
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho he is showing archeological proof of tamil recently. Meanwhile you show similar to sanskrit. Otherwise litreture wise tamil is 10000 yrs and mythically 50000 yrs old. So dont post your stories mythically, post archeologically with proof like him.
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho show the proof man like tamil. Sculptures, pots any thing. Simply dont overwhelm here. If you have proof post the link or else shut up.
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho aadichanalur excavations proofs tamil is 3000 years older and the tamil brahmi scripts has indus valley scripts letters.
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho who said I'm lying first release the papers of excavation done by ASI in aadichanalur even court order to release them but there is no response from central government and ASI
Well explained! I must admit I was completely confused about Sanskrit and it's writing systems, the relationship with Hindi, etc. Thanks Matt for making this video!!! Love the writing systems videos, please keep them coming!! I secretly hope you have something to say about Chinese characters as well lol.
3:33 you're wrong. Evidence 1- River Saraswati which has flown twice in history- before 10,000 BC the first time and then between 6000-4000 BC the second time. Rigveda has hymns about the intense flow of river saraswati.. so intense that Rigveda describes it as alive river. If Rigveda was written in 1500 BC it would've never known of Saraswati. Evidence 2- There's an archaeological site in Sinauli, Western UP, India which is estimated to be older than any even the Masopotamian civilisation. Rigveda describes 3 processes of cremation after death. Remains from all 3 burial/ cremation processes have been excavated from Sinauli. This again rejects the claim that Rigveda is only from 1500 BC, but actually much older text than that.
@Moon Cahn ok.. I'll take the challenge. I challenge you to give me evidence of these so called 'Aryans' first. After that we can talk on lengths about Saraswati river. Challenge accepted
Deep Underground, Now How Deep It Is, And How Wide, How Much Distance From One Point To Anonther Point ?. And Saraswati Is A Hidden River From Everyone Eyes. It Is Not Above The Ground To Be Called Saraswati River, Then Who Name This River ?
@@ln1050 Are you mad? RV clearly talks about Saraswathy as the Mother of all rivers. There are 27 references to Saraswathy in RV from its earliest mandalas. This is the reason why White geologists and Indologists wanted Saraswathy to be in Afghanistan, Iran and anywhere but India. They tried to call Saraswathy a mythical river while accepting all other rivers mentioned in RV as real rivers. The paleo channel was first traced by Britisher Oldham. There are more IVC sites in Saraswathy bed than Indus bed. Rakhigarhi/ Birrhana are almot 8000 years old. My surmise is that RV was being continuosly composed over a very long period of time, a time when writing was not invented and it developed into the urban culture that is IVC. Migration may have happened in 1500-2000 BC but these migrants did not bring RV to India. There are seals in IVC which depict Yoga asanas. And Yoga was composed by Patanjali. You can see a continuous chain of civilizational change/ advancement from early RV texts (Mandala 9) to end of IVC after which Ganges becomes the foremost river for Indians. As for this PIE bull shit is concerned it has no legs to stand on since this hypothesis is never falsifiable. It is a figment of imagination of Superiority drunk white men who wanted to appropriate anything worthwhile to whites. Mark my words - In a 50 to 100 years time Whites would have appropriated yoga, vedanta also saying this was practiced in Greece and was handed down to Indians by the early Greeks.
It’s a new invention at its time and evolved over time and not related to other languages as shown here, other references shown might have originated from Sanskrit as history has shown us that Persians are very good at copying things.
the reconstruction of the Sarai Nahar Rai 11thousand yer old fossil in Uttar Pradesh looks like your average b rahmin. Now who is the moolnivasi? Lol Search sulkalmakh (30k years prior) account over at twatter!
@@-LTUIiiin you stop being a Arab wannabe first and secondly, stop using lemons and turmeric too. Lemons and turmeric come from India only. Persians only know copying Indian culture and texts, even Al-gebr copied Algebra from Aryabhatta only.
Ancient gurus believed in transferring knowledge directly from the teacher to the students. They believed that writing it down and students reading it later could result in incorrect or incomplete understanding of knowledge. Only elite used classical Sanskrit and only intellectuals used vedic.
What Ancient gurus believed was false ,in transferring knowledge directly from the teacher to the students was not reliable. With changing time & scientific evolution passing on knowledge verbally result in incorrect or incomplete understanding. Nobody is sure; till date of its authenticity. Domestic as well as others Contemporary write ups not even mentioned any of Vedas pre Jaina or Buddhist Era.
@@neoananda Writing down limited the understanding of things. It confined the knowledge or left it to an uneducated mind to form its own opinions or interpret it in what way he feels. Terrorism is a big example of this.
Anandh Krishna You are taking, "writing" (script) for granted. When these things were compiled there was no writing nor a surface to write on, which were invented much later.
@@asi2765 This was quite common across the world I believe. Historians and writers in the ancient roman syria also believed that orally communicated information was stronger than scripted information. To the point that if same info was available in these two forms, the one in oral form was given more weightage But this is unfortunately not true
@@nomadicpolestar5538 Every language is different for sure there are lot of problems when comes to vocalization but don't call it ugly. Do you know the letter 'ழ' (zha) in Tamil which you can't even find or pronounce properly in other language? It suppose to spelled 'Thamizh' but many people simply keep saying 'Tamil'. Even in Telugu to pronounce 'zha' they use 'ழ' in the writing system.
@@nomadicpolestar5538 it's the most beautiful language to those who speak it. Sanskrit, Hindi and other north indian languages sound horredous in comparison. The other Dravidian languages contain many Sanskrit vocab, but Tamil is the least influenced by Sanskrit.
Hi UsefulCharts! Great video as always, and I'd hate to be another commenter acting as an "expert," but at 8:05-ish I noticed you made the offhand remark that the contact with Greek culture led to the movement from symbolic to human depictions of the Buddha in the Indian subcontinent. When I was taught AP Art History (about six or seven years ago) it was my understanding that that was a common theory. While the timing for the change was appropriate, archaeological evidence would seem to debunk it as the change happened seemingly simultaneously across the subcontinent, rather than radiating from the Northwest. Again, love your content--I think you are very thorough and spread a great deal of enthusiasm for history through your content--but I'm just curious if the understanding of this development in art history had reversed/where or when your research is from--thanks!
I don't know the case specifically, but in general, in history or archaeology "seemingly simultaneously" really means there just isn't enough information to distinguish which happened first, because they don't know the date accurately enough. Remember that a person can walk across the whole of India in less than 2 months (bringing ideas and objects with them), and radio carbon dating (for example) can have errors in the range of decades or more. Without an inscription with the dates of each piece, it's hard to tell the difference between things that happened over several decades, and something that happened on the same day.
@Raghib Qazi The derivation of Brahmi is not even remotely as obvious as you made it out to be but yes the point about sculptural variation does have a clearer connection with the Greeks of Antiquity. After Alexander, there were many substantial Greek communities within India and strong cultural syncretism between the different groups. There were even Indo-Grecian Kingdoms for a time and it was under those conditions that the change in Indian visual art occurred. So to that end it's quite clear that there is both a correlation and likely causation going on there. The same just can't be said about Brahmi deriving from Aramaic with as much conviction. This entire video should highlight to you that even coming up with a general connection between the two systems is pretty difficult. Let alone any bona fide correlation. So really that's down to speculation and effectively the most educated guesswork we can come up with until more evidence presents itself.
@@stormveil Hey Stormveil, appreciate the response! Sorry in advance for the text blob but I should say that "seemingly simultaneously" more happens to be the wording I chose rather than a description of certainty. When this was being taught it was taught as definitive, and I should say that my teacher was no layman (I believe he worked at the National Gallery at some point, not sure). You make a good point about travel speed compared to archaeological dating timescales; but while it is true that people and ideas can travel very quickly, especially compared to standard deviation in archaeological dating, I don't think that changes much. No disrespect, but if it was just a matter of an idea spreading then that would make sense, wouldn't that imply that Indians were kind of like "Oh shit, why didn't we think of depicting the Buddha's image with an image of the Buddha?" It's been a long time since my archaeology or Sanskrit studies (and longer still from that Art History course) but the reason why the Buddha was depicted through visual metaphors, I believe, was somewhat theological--therefore the shift to use imagery of a person (though the person is so idealized and archetypal, the sculptures are in not a few ways still a symbolic depiction) would need to be a change in religious thought, not aesthetic thought. At least, that's how it seems to me--I am by no means an expert and there are a lot similarities which make the Greek influence case still compelling, but the archaeology doesn't really support it.
Thank you for the great video, it was very informative, as always. I see by the comments that Biblical literalists, apparently, do not have the market cornered when it comes to bloated egos and false, wildly outrageous, claims regarding their religious texts. Thank you, again, for presenting what we know about the history of Sanskrit based on the actual facts and existing evidence.
This is really interesting. I'm Korean and haven't heard of Phags-pa script so I looked it up, and there are substantial evidences that Hangul was somewhat influenced by it. It's nice to know another interesting writing system exists.
I think only nationalist Koreans would be. I'm intrigued by this fact. Need to learn more about it. TIL. Also, many Koreans know that our culture and language are not entirely original.
It’s historically written that the shape of Hangul consonants was inspired by Mongol Seal Script. Mongol Seal Script is speculated to be Phagspa, but we can’t say for sure. I don’t see a reason to be triggered. I’ve looked up Phagspa and can see the similarity, but apart from the shapes there isn’t any relation. It’s like how Cherokee is related to the Latin alphabet. Took the shapes and turned it into something else.
My only issue with rig veda being the first written text available of brahmi is that the grammar used in rig veda is extremely complex and that level of complexity doesn't just spring out of nowhere. All languages start out simple and there must be some brahmi text available out there where they first wrote simple sentences before jumping into something as complex as the hymns. The level of refinement in sanskrit language and especially in rig veda implies there it was probably around for quite some time. It must have definitely started off as a crude language and i'm sure people experimented with its writing for several centuries before it reached the level of complexity you get to see in rig veda. The problem is that Indians have always been bad at archiving and maintaining their old records. We have no care for it, even now. I'm sure it was even worse back then. Unlike the greeks and romans and sumerians where every child was taught to write, so anyone could scribble nonsensical stuff on the walls while being piss drunk (which has now become a gold mine for historians) Indians reserved the ability to write only to the elites. So we have very few records of anything and there was no concept of historians in India. So it's better if you leave sanskrit entirely out of your timeline or at least mention that it's all just a speculation because we have lost a LOT of books during invasions and burning of our ancient libraries and just sheer lack of interest in maintaining old stuff. You'll never accurately know when sanskrit began to develop because we rarely maintained any written records of anything. No major country has ever done such a horrible job at maintaining its own records as India has. And i'm saying this as an India. So sanskrit is a very tricky language. You'll probably never know how old it really is.
The thing is that the rig veda existed looong before being written. All the text was already there, transmitted oraly from generation to generation. As soon as a writting system was adopted you just transcribe phonetically, the language itself has NOTHING to do with the writing. As an analogy if I learn the IPA I can learn to transcribe a folk story from any culture, let's say that i go to Iceland for example. And i start to transcribe Islandic tales. That a language with quite a deep grammar and complex folklore!! And yet, i can simply transcribe the sounds with the IPA and the text would then be written. The grammar is all preexisting I'm just making 'Sound drawings' Here nobody is arguing about the text itself. Indian cultures did a LOOOT of memorization anyways, so they didn't have a NEED for writting initially. That's why when they adopted the system it was pretty much like it appeared out of nowhere in full force. The language was already there, but here we are just talking about writing, which is a physical thing, and one that we can study, date and compare. And the complexity of a language has nothing to do with writing! The Indoeuropean, ancestors of most or the people in Europe and northen india had an even more complex language, and yet they never developed a writing sistem of their own and all we know about their language and culture had to be reconstructed via linguistics. So yeah, never mix those 2 things up, writing is one thing, language is another very different thing
You're missing a small part of the puzzle here, which is that Sanskrit and its complicated grammar didn't appear out of nowhere. It had an ancestor, Proto-Indo-Iranian, from which it inherited its grammatical structures, which in turn descended from Proto-Indo-European, and PIE is like 6k years old which is enough time for a language to develop complex grammar.
Yes i'm 100% agree with U and that's why today i don't have minimum interest to hear what those so called Historians, scientist r talking about it, because whatever they r saying is their own(individually) concocted theories, hypothesis, bla bla, except have any concrete proof... again waste of time !!..
We don't yet know if the Indus Valley script was a remote ancestor of later Indian scripts. There may be clues in the symbols found on later pottery further South, but this is a taboo subject for publicly-funded researchers in present-day India, because of the possibility that the Indus Valley culture was the ancestor of South rather than North Indian civilisation. Much like how Rhodesia restricted the study of Zimbabwe.
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 the westerners of today are not afraid of it. There is simply more evidences to be found owing to the fact that a great part of our history including scientific facts was not written down to be clearly understood. It will take some more years. Irrespective of whether discoveries were done by any country I think we ought to give credit to everyone that discovered these long time back and in modern times and also that we don't really need to have a heated debate on the same topic
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 I certainly agree with you man. I am more of a globalised thinker. Maybe that is the reason we are even having this conversation. The truth is most of the people won't even read all this but definitely hear it because I guess it's much easier 😅. I believe that if the westerners have to change this it's our own duty to come out and convince them with proper research and proof. I believe that this will make a huge change in the history circles around the world. As far I understand they do not hate india in anyway and many of them are sure that they haven't understood anything about the Indian civilization fully. That's the only reason I tried to reason with you. You can start a TH-cam channel yourself (or we. I still have a lot to learn about these things so..). This will be helpful for all of us. Jai hind bhai
I think I will agree. We have not put enough research into any of the histories to be exact. But as far as I know Dravidian culture did exist almost at the same time as Aryan culture which has close ties with Sanskrit than the Indus valley. I maybe wrong but we cannot make a strict outline on which is older
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 I agree that burning books and whole libraries is to be deplored. North Indians are not the only victims here: the same has happened everywhere. Aztec, Inca and Phillipine records destroyed by Spanish priests, Syriac MSS of Kerala destroyed by Portuguese priests, wholesale slaughter of scholars and burning of books by the Yellow Emperor, similar actions by early Christians in Italy, Greece and Egypt, looting and destruction of monasteries by Protestants, Red Guards in Tibet ... Any change of religion, and sometimes foreign invasion, may lead to this erasure of history, starting by banning the old songs and stories. We should treasure, preserve and understand what we have left: too often nobody can be bothered. E.G. the still buried library of Herculaneum, or the several centuries' worth of temple records slowly decaying in Trivandrum.
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 I agree with you on Nalanda. To just imagine the wealth of knowledge lost...But I think there is too much White bashing here. Brahmi script was deciphered by a White man (just like Egyptian Hieroglyphs) . Ajanta was discovered by White man.. I can go on listing contributions of Europeans in shedding light on our history. The real damage to our culture, civilization and heritage was caused by the people who were the rulers BEFORE Europeans came.
For your information, Iranian languages are derived from Sanskrit not Sanskrit derived from them And south Indian languages are known as Dravidian languages and Dravidian itself is a Sanskrit word Every time india is related with Europe and middle east by westerners, why not Europe and middle east related with india You would research findings based on east as well as west, not only west, west always want to go over east
These are childish comments. In Persia the language has also undergone change from time to time. Pre-Avestan, Avestan, Pahlavi, Tajik, Dari, Sasanian and finally Arbic etc have mixed and undergone many changes. You speak about Sanskrit which has many words from Avestan Persian language which mixed with Indian Pali/Prakrit languages majorly in 7-8 century AD forming Classical Sanskrit language in 12th century AD. It could be written only after evolution of Devnagari Script. You can refer Avestan dictionary. All those words first mixed with Sanskrit then in Urdu, Prakrith, Hindi, Marathi and Gujarati.
@@GD-dx6eg you said it can be written only after evolution of devnagri script, this shows your illiteracy level and hate 🤣🤣. Sanskrit don't have any 1 specific script unlike other languages , and oldest written document of Sanskrit as a script is 3500 year's old(carbondated Proof). And for your information Sanskrit doesn't have a single word from any other languages, this again shows your WhatsApp University knowledge 🤣. Every Sanskrit word and structure is made from a predefined "dhatu" . It is not like other languages that you can make any word or stole a word, there is not a single word in Sanskrit without a Dhatu, this dhatu (Bij) system was adopted to maintain the purity of Sanskrit language, so that no any word of other language can be added.
You might also want to look into the variants of Brahmi used in Southern India & Sri Lanka. It's typically called Tamil Brahmi script although the language used is a very early form of Tamil which has some similarities to sanskrit being used in the Dravidian grammatical pattern. There are Brahmi inscriptions being found, especially in Sri Lanka that are from about 600-300 BCE. There's still a lot of academic discussion on the matter & no clear consensus, but the running best guess is that sanskrit was a standardized language created around 1800- 1500 BCE period as a lingua franca across the Indian subcontinent after the end of the late Indus valley civilization around 2000-1800BC and migration of Indo-European speakers into the region followed by or coinciding with the migration of Dravidian speakers (indus valley people & possibly the Elamites from Eastern Persia) eastwards & Southwards due to the changing climate (this was around the bronze age collapse & periodic of acute climate change & reduced precipitation) & increasing migration of Indo-Europeans from the Northwest (Central Asia was also facing droughts & steppe peoples such as the Indo-Europeans migrated both westwards into Anatolia & eastwards into Persia & India) These two groups in India at that point then more or less coalesced between 1500 to 1000 BCE into the Vedic civilization in the north Indian plains (saptasindhu region) & the Tamil civilization in South (Kaveri river basin) with the Narmada & Tapi rivers of central india acting as a de facto border area. Then over the intervening 800 years to Alexander's time the Sanskrit developed into regional dialects & vernacular languages called Prakrits (much like Latin & the romance languages in Europe) with the Southern group following Dravidian grammer & becoming classical Tamil & the Northern groups becoming classical Sanskrit & eventually Pali (the language of Buddhism) & the other North Indian Prakrits. The Rig Veda is generally considered to be an amalgamation of hymns which existed from much longer in the past, some probably originatingwith the Indus valley civilization - typically the ones praising Shiva & Vishnu as well as those about the Saraswati river (which dried up before 2300BCE based on geological evidence); while others probably coming from the Aryans - typically those praising Agni & Indra the stereotypical Indo-European Gods as well is those describing prayer rituals around fire pits; with some being composed later around the migration period such as those praising the river Ganga & Yamuna which became the sacred river following the drying of the Saraswati & migration of the Indus valley peoples into the gangetic plains. Edit: I'm a biotechnologist/geneticist in India working with Anthropological survey of India on historical migration patterns of people in the Indian subcontinent based on mtDNA & Y chromosome haplotyping. This topic has been an area of active interest for me for a long time although my knowledge of the linguistics is limited. I really hope you make more videos about early India since a lot of Indian history is really considered as beginning post Alexander's arrival since literally records from before then are extremely scant & much of what's been understood is from archeology or religious literature (hindu & Buddhist texts) many of which were lost, altered or even deliberately destroyed in later centuries.
As you said they were deliberately altered destroyed to make sanskrit as old language and vedas as literature of India. Have you ever considered Tamil with its vast classical literature not found in any indian languages comparable only to vedas. Vedic and sanskrit scholars did all those distortions and delebrate alteration to supersede Tamil literature which is more indigenous to India and secular. Vedic texts are nothing but stolen Tamil texts after Indus valley i.e tamil civilization was overrun by aryan invasion. Tamils and their classical antiquity has been suppressed by vedic scholars till now trying hard to prove sanskrit as indigenous to India.
@@deenabandhu5526 what do smoke man?? Go on read some real books and come out of your bubble made by marxist communist to create differences between us. I do agree tamil is old and no one disagrees on that. Both sanskrit and tamil developed separately. Sanskrit is old too but i agree tamil is older. So what both are our indigenous languages. Feel proud of it rather than claiming some one has stolen something. Both sanskrit and tamil are our treasures. And there is nothing like aryan invasion. There is a 2 crore prize money to prove aryan theory. Go on if you think you can win the cash prize. Stop dividing us. I am odia which is also a classical language and has more than 1500 year old history, thus a classical language. I respect odia sanskrit and tamil all languages for having such a great history, just feel proud. No one is superior. All of us indians have same dna admixture thus no such thing as aryan invasion. Research about rakhigarhi excavation which refutes aryan theory.
@@shreyansrout9341 Thank you, finally someone who's actually knowledgeable & speaks sense. I'd recommend reading the work of Dr. Anindya Sarkar from IIT Kharagpur, I've had the pleasure of working with him. He's from the Geology dept. while I work in the Biotechnology department. His recent paper in Nature Scientific Reports show a clear progression of civilization in the Indus-saraswati region from 7500BCE to 1500BCE with the development, rise & fall of the Harappan civilization (IVC). Like you said, the Aryan "invasion" idea was completely fabricated by the British scholars of the early 1900s because they had to come up with a framework that showed the subjugation of Indians by outsiders as the historical & right thing to do. Modern scholars almost universally accept that there was no invasions of any sort. Furthermore, there is proof that even the Dravidian languages were developed later in the 1500BCE to 800BCE period when it became classical Tamil of the Sangam period. The Indus language & the languages of the civilization in South Iran contemporary with IVC & Mesopotamia called the Elamites probably were the ancestors of the modern Dravidian languages. During 1800BCE to 1200BCE there was a large disruption to the monsoon pattern in India resulting in the desertification of most of the core IVC region as well as the general reduction in rainfall & drying up of most of Asia & Africa, from Egypt to China. This is the period, when the Saraswati river had already dried up & rains started failing that there was large-scale migration of Harappan people East & South into the gangetic plains & Kaveri-Godaveri basin regions. This also included the Elamites (pre-Iranians) because much of Iran also became arid at this period. The so called "Aryans" were probably people of the Oxus civilization (also called the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex or BMAC) who were contemporary to the mature IVC & had extensive trade & cultural exchange between them. Central Asia during this climate disruption became very dry with almost no rain for decades at a time, leading to destruction of the Oxus civilization, who's people knew of the fertile land in India & migrated South into the Indo-Gangetic plains, bringing their language & culture with them & mixing into the remnants of the IVC culture giving rise to Vedic India. Sanskrit was developed during these tumultuous times as a sort of Lingua franca in Northern India with more elements of the Indo-European language of the Oxus people being incorporated into it while the more unmixed Indus valley & Elamite languages survived in South India to form the Dravidian languages with classical Tamil. Even the Hindu cultural differences in modern India show this with South Indian primarily being Shaivite & Eastern India mostly Shaktivite (Rudra & Shakti/Devi) which were mostly Indus valley derived Gods while vedic cultures were much more involved with Indra, Agni & Prithvi which are more Indo-European god's derived from the Aryans.
@@deenabandhu5526 Indus valley i.e. Tamil civilization were overrun with Aryan invasion? Which year did you learn history, 1930? If you want more details read my other reply, but Aryan invasion was a myth. There was no invasion nor was the migration of Aryans (Oxus civilization people who migrated South into India during the bronze age collapse due to desertification of central Asia) the reason for the collapse of the Harappan civilization. You're correct in saying that Indus civilization is the ancestor of Tamil civilization, before the migration of Aryans the Indus valley civilization & the Elam civilisation of Southern Iran were proto-dravidian speaking groups who migrated East & South into India during the same period (because the drying of Southern Iran to Saraswati valley & failure of monsoons) & gave rise to Tamil culture in the Kaveri-Godaveri basin. I don't think you've actually read Tamil Sangam literature, given that you seem to be spouting theories used by Dravidian purist politicians & scholars from 100 years ago but Tamil (both the language & culture) formed in South India after the Indo-European peoples had already arrived in Northern India. Tamil & Sanskrit developed as sort of cousin languages over 1500BCE to 800BCE period where they mutually effected each other's development, you will find many similar word roots in both languages. Also Tamil revivalists & Dravidian politicians distorted the Tamil literature creating absurd theories like Kumari Kundam based off old Pandyan legends of lost submerged Tamil civilizations & entire continent that submerged from which Tamil originated & how it is the first & oldest language as a method to polarise the south Indian population & get votes in the 1980s during Gandhian rule eras. The actual legends is of land that submerged off Mahabalipuram & between India & Sri Lanka which were probably derived from ancient oral legends recounting the flooding at the end of the last ice age, similar to tales of Dwarka.
Man, I wish the Indus Valley hieroglyphs are deciphered in our lifetime.
they would have deciphered and used it for their own benefit or neglected it because it did not benefit them.
I think they have been deciphered. Read it somewhere
Look up for Sue Sullivan and her deciphering system
She says that it is Sanskrit
@@b.m.5068 I think it would be closer to Tamil, which is older than Sanskrit. Cos it has now been proved that the Indus Valley civilization moved southwards in India towards Tamil Nadu.
That would unfold a world of ancient knowledge. We need another like Rakhal Das Banerjee.
Yes... Sanskrit is the language not had a script (लिपि).. In northern regions in India we learnt Sanskrit by devnagari script in schools, some years later I got to learn that in southern, East and West regions they have their own versions of scripts on Sanskrit, even in ancient time Sanskrit written in many different scripts. Because of the technology I got to learn many valuable information, that I didn't even knew in my highschool times.
I personally prefer the Devanagari script though all Bengali Hindu religious scriptures use the Bengali script and Odiyas the Odiya script for Sanskrit. I am a Bengali.
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Okay ... Please tell me then how 👉 OM 👈 👉ॐ👈 the divine sanskrit/hindu word is written in any other language other than sanskrit .. let me clear you on this 👉ॐ👈 is written like this in any other language of the world because om is not just a word but a symbol 👉ॐ👈 Until we don't write om like this it's not considered to be divine .. in india many people keep there name om but they have write their name like this 👉ओम👈 & they are not allowed to write their name like this 👉ॐ👈 because om is not just a word but a symbol & this symbol is in sanskrit ... Sanskrit is 1960831121 years old & next year on the auspicious first day of chaitra navratri it will be 1960831122 year old
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Sorry dear, Rig Veda is not first text, but Adharva Veda. It originated before 10000 BC . So all assumptions about the origin of languages are in different ways, and not just as said in this Video. Rig Vedic period was above 700 AD. So this is the last one. Adharva Veda's root subject was Black Magic. It originated for the safety existence in that time. So we must rethink about the origin of languages.
Just imagine how many historical questions and mysteries time travel could solve.
It's physically impossible to travel back in time, although there are theories on how it can be achieved but that would require unimaginable levels of energy and technology which would require millions of years for humans to achieve.
Although I remember reading that New York Times said in an article in 1903 that it would take 1-10 million years for man to achieve technology to fly and 2 months later Wright Brothers invented airplane, we are just one breakthrough away from becoming intergalactic civilization, who knows maybe the next Einstein is sitting somewhere in the world looking at the sky and wondering why we see stars in the past.
@@caseyclover1647 most likely we need an alien material to achieve it.
Here is the thing we lack in India.
We are willing to build a god damn time machine and use it to go 'back' in time, just to prove a point.
The day we start thinking, to use that same time machine to go ahead of time, may be we can contribute to make this world better..
Just imagine how many historical questions and mysteries time travel already created! =P
@@karthikpaniyoor5348 that is an incredibly stupid way to think! People thought going to the moon was wasteful and stupid but the resulting technologies helped our civilization tremendously.
Going forward is physically possible and quite simple in theory anyways, you just have to travel as close to the speed of light as possible and time and distance will slow down considerably for you, meaning you could theoretically travel to the nearest star and back in a matter of months or even days but due to time dilation 4.5 years would have passed on earth, that is according to theory of relativity, this would however require unimaginable amounts of energy to reach close to light speed. Traveling back in time is currently considered impossible since you theoretically have to travel faster than light speed but that is impossible due to laws of physics as we currently understand them and if anyone could come up with a valid way to do that then I would say they would be the most important person in the history of mankind. Greatness isn't achieved by discarding impossible challenges.
As for India I've seen quite a few Indians boast about their scientific achievements but those same people don't even understand basic scientific concepts and are not proud of the achievement itself but rather of the fact that "we did it" Which is incredibly unhealthy way to think about science.
Glad you mentioned the the difference between Composed and Written. Many people still believe we have a 5000 year old copy of Rig veda in a museum.
Yes , the reason they used to heard that , as me used to believe that crap too.
@@shahidachoudhury6925 then there are idiots who think Rigveda didn't exist before 400 CE
Nasty bruh 🤣😂🤣
@@rishavkumar1250 😁 I know them
@@rishavkumar1250 Pali prakit predates sanskrit. Sanskrit is fake news 😂 kuch bhi aake gapod do paper pe. Sabke proof mil Gaye bas ye brahman dharam ke proof nahi milte na ramayan na mahabharat sab bas fek rakha hain paper pe. Abe andhbhakto jake R.s Sharma ki ncert hi padh lo ek proof nahi de rakha hain kahi pe. Indus Valley civilisation mil gayi Buddha mil Gaye written form me ashoka mil Gaye Pali prakit mil gayi brahmi script or dhamm script me Gupta ke inscriptions mil Gaye sabke mil Gaye lekin brahman ki comics ka ek proof nahi mila na kisi ashokan pillar pe na megasthanese na dusre traveller me. Brahmano ka sab kuch Mughal ke time likha gaya aur 1000 saal se purana hain hi nahi kuch . Aaya samaj wale bolte hain lakhs of years old haan shayad dinosaur ke saath daudte honge brahman. Sarasvati river ka mention hain Abe gadho koi bhi kudhai me proof nahi mila tumhara jaha sarasvati river Bol ke khoda vaha bhi buddhism hi mila. Koi kaam me apne kuch bhi bolta rahe to wo Indian culture ho jayega kya. Indian culture wo hota hain jo logo ka culture ho sari dynasty sab log Pali prakit ka use kar rahe hain. Brothers ne aake khoja Indus valley civilisation ko Ashoka ko aur brahman claim karta hain hun 5000 saal purana hain abe 5000 saal se tum log ek dusre ke jaan ne bolke aarahe ho Sanskrit to tum logo to pata hi nahi tha Indus valley cilvilisation ka na ashoka na. Ashokan pillar ko shivling bol ke paisa kamane lage kahi par hanuman ki gada bol Diya pillar ko. Brothers ne aake decipher kiya Pali prakit ko. Tum logo ki Sanskrit Pali prakit se hi evolve hui hain 7 th se 8th century ad me aur classical to aur baad me aayi hain mughals ke time. Ye fake news mar failao ab sab pakad me aagaya hain.
We're learning Sanskrit in school and I love languages. Especially I love to see people outside India discussing Sanskrit and what they have observed.
It’s a dead language. No one speaks it and no one understands it either. It’s comparable to Latin which is also dead.
@@NoName-ny1bt learning Sanskrit is super beneficial to intellect and if one can learn Sanskrit, they can easily learn most languages in South Asia.
We some are learning & interactive with language Pali & also well versed with bramhi script. That doesn’t mean these languages are alive. Off course they are dead language. It’s our personal interest for which we are taking part.
@@palashvijay4814 but most of the mantras they chant is in sanskrit.. so.. obviously they'll have to use the language.. but yeah they can misuse it and do scam people...
@@NoName-ny1bt it's not dead language bro..😂😂😂.. I can read sanskrit..
My mum is an Indonesian, and she taught me that almost every (if not all) inscription in sanskrit that were ever found in Indonesia was written in palavan script. That was an info that has been sleeping for many many years, but when I read the title of this video I was like, "aren't sanskrit written in pallava?"
It's hindu gods communication language 🙂
@@ghosthunter8664 and also the language of most ancient sages.
Kindly. Post photo of PALLAV alphabets
Pallav Script associated with Pallav Dynasty of South India is very similarly arranged like the Devanagari...
sanskrit has no written script. Pallava is Tamil script
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@@mol-lyn why not
@@mol-lyn Because too many people, culture, country think these days, they are very special, they inventrped the wheel, when they are probably very likely,even if partially, influenced by something earlier, something not so purely "they as they think". And this shows a web of connection between us.
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 Farming was around long before the Egyptians. Medicine is not culture nor an invention. Neither are math or astronomy. Printing would turn out to be a necessity and it would have been developed whether the chinese had technology for it first or not. You cannot patent nor invent a natural phenomenon or an evolutionary trait, so I don't know where you're getting the lucid dream and meditation parts.
When I hear the word,”Sanskrit” I said to myself,this is something sounds familiar to me, I got to watch the whole video. There are so much inscriptions written on the walls of the famous Angkor Wat temples in Cambodia. We called it,” the language of the Khmer during Angkor Wat era”. I don’t have a lot of knowledge in regards to the Khmer histories
Yes khmer were Hindus so they used sanskrit is thier religious prayers etc. u are from Cambodia??
Didn’t expect to see Cambodia mentioned! I get really excited when I learn more about my parent’s country
Khemer were Buddhists. Hindu is Persian word meaning Black, Dacoit, Thief, etc. Hinduism didn't exist when Buddhist monks or Buddhism arrived in Cambodia.
@@ShellyShelly-f2g my family is half buddhist
@@ShellyShelly-f2gHindu is derived from Sindhu river called by then Greeks. Also Buddhism is way neo then original Saharan (current Hindu). Gautam Buddha (Siddhartha) was a Hindu before his followers started calling themselves Buddhist.
As a Greek, I learned a lot from you about these other languages, and cultures, your presentation was very good. Thank you
I am indoGreek
@Games Account that is Indica
The travel diary Indika of Megasthenes the Greek ambassador (of Hellenistic period) to India during the period of Emperor Chandragupta Maurya
Very nicely packaged heap of crap. An honest history of language is the need of the hour. When these unbathed unkempt murderous villains showed up on our shores in the 1500s they didn't know how to spell grammar studies. Now they're telling us their ancestors taught us! What a ludicrous egotistical statement. Luckily Indians are questioning the basis for their assumptions and all will be revealed in time.
Hey did u know that Bhaarat was called INDIA by Greeks.
Thank you..
But now this name is used for political conspiracies by Fools 😂😂
As a nepali, i love our language...
It reflects our culture and history
What is the Nepali origin? I'm guessing you derive ancestry from Indo-Europeans because your language and customs are Sanskritic but also more Chinese-looking features than someone from Bihar or UP.
@@elborrador333
Our history is diverse...
Some of our ancestors migrated from indus valley whlist some of us have mongolian/ tibetian origin...
Just like hindi, nepali language is derived from sanskrit too...
Some people believe that nepali language was actually derived from Khas language which in turn was derived from sanskrit...
@alan hembrom
no not all of us...
i think we know our history better than you, thank you...
Nepali is Mix up of Sanskrit Pali and Brahmi..... Khas language is Similar to Eastern European language
@alan hembrom
you said "nepali are indo aryan"
so i thought you were referring to the nepali people...
but yes sanskrit language is an indo aryan language
this person is the clearest speaking person I have ever listened to, he should be a teacher, maybe he is.
I don’t know his job but I know in a video he says he studied religion in university but he is basically a teacher with this channel
@Tian Wang
he himself needs to learn more..
@@wennick4859 gud point.. He learned it coz they need to learn or else he can't Fool others.. Even he doesn't know much what he was talking abt..
@@desilonda9857 He has a PhD is languages and religion. Read his about us page. Stop doubting him. What are your qualifications?
@@edwardspencer9397 he may be PhD Holder in his place.. Coz of that still he is in doubt.
Edward.. Brother.. English is newly Born.. I mean to say when ur/his ancestors were living in caves, my ancestors explored abt universe.. Wrote Vedas , Purans n etc..
So don't try to be judge here..
He has done PhD in missionary..
Edward what u understand by "Vedic science" ?
The earliest form of Sanskrit is that used in the Rig Veda (called Old Indic or Rigvedic Sanskrit). Amazingly, Rigvedic Sanskrit was first recorded in inscriptions found not on the plains of India but in in what is now northern Syria.
it was not rigvedic Sanskrit instead vedic gods name in syria & some Egyptian contracts.
it means before Sanskrit we spoke something else.
@@asura2600ji woh sanskrit ke words hi uss hue hai uss inscription me . Uss inscription ki language hurrian hai par uss inscription me bahut se words aise hai jo ki sanskrit ke hai naa ki hurrian language ke 😊
@@NishantKumar-ry9rp words Sanskrit k h per script or language alag h ye muje pata h.
@@NishantKumar-ry9rp these gods & deities are of pie origin
@@asura2600 ji iss video me hi bataya gya hai ki lipi aur bhasa me difference hai aur Sanskrit ko kayi lipio me likha jata tha pahle aur aap ek baar acche se mittani kingdom ke baare me padhiye unke naam bhi sanskrit me the aur unke inscription par sanskrit ka bahut jyada prabhav dikhta hai saaf saaf.
We are actually taught in school that in Hindi and Odia, the languages that I learnt, the letters are arranged based on where we voice those sounds and I always found it pretty neat.
Bo Bo Black Sheep
You're right. Our languages aren't random (finite)collection of symbols, each witrh a sound, that might change too.
Does any other language contain the scientific structure and vibratory efficacy of Sanskrit? perhaps not?
Sanskrit is very unique and original to India just like the concept of zero!
Hindi and Odia are not much similar
But Odia pronunciations are really tough for Non odias.Odia is a Classical language, odia has such sounds that doesn't exist in hindi
We used mug up sanskrit dhatu (odia lipi) otherwise get beaten and thrashed by our sanskrit guruji in school.
@@alexparakan i don't know its just Indian education system , completely outdated.
Also, Vedic Sanskrit (the language of Rigveda) is different from Classical Sanskrit we study today. Languages evolve over time.
Nope
Sanskrit never evolve
@@Saikalyan19 Classical Sanskrit has the subset of the same grammar rules but new vocabulary (borrowings) albeit smartly adjusted to the Vedic phonetic rules. And the vocabulary set of BHS (Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit) is one more else with grammatical rules still more reduced to the basic aspects. I can read and understand Mantras, Dharanis and short Sutras in BHS but I can't virtually understand Vedic Sanskrit.
The same with Latin - I can read and understand medieval historical chronicles, legal documents and magical incantations but from the Classical Latin I barely understand Julius Caesar. A simplified subset of the same grammar but new and smaller vocabulary similar to the modern languages.
@@Saikalyan19 It did evolve. You might have heard of a product of its evolution, it's called Hindi.
@@theodiscusgaming3909 Sanskrit never evolved . It was created to be rigid and not changed . Hindi is not evolved Sanskrit it is mix of Prakrit and Indo -Iranian languages .
@@JohnDoe19991 Vedic Sanskrit is a little different from Classical Sanskrit. The Sanskrit which we study today has many new or changed words and grammar.
Rigveda mentions Sarasvati river multiple times. The river according to geological findings vanished around 1900 BCE
there is no geological findings.
@@Tamilhistoryguy there is.
@@kunalrao2134 No, there is no evidence that has been peer reviewed. I understand that post-colonial states feel a sense of shame and consequently hype up their native histories, but at some point you’ve got to be mature and objective about things.
🤣🤣😂
@@Kolgai again, there is.
I am a linguistic enthusiast. Your presentation is quite studied. You made aspects simple. It indicates your laborious background work to prepare this. Great sir.
1)Keezhadi excavation already shown link between INDUS SCRIPT and TAMIL BRAHMI.
Tamil people have tradition writing name on pots. Lower layer in keezhadi dated to 1000BC found similar with indus script along some Graffiti marks. Middle layer date 600 BC found with Graffiti mixed with tamil Brahmi. Above layer have fully developed tamil brahmi.
2) pulimankombai inscription assumped date to be 490BC . Azhagankulam, Kodumanal,porunthalur, adichanallur,etc excavations shown tamil brahmi dated to 600-500BC.
Tamli not tamil brahmi,
Prahmi kirutham 2200/2300 old Greek mythology king names time. Already tamili languages before 2490 times
@@francisrajanlobo2698 brahmi is term coined and agreed by scientific community. Brahmi is borrowed from Phoenician alphabet around 1200-800BC.. English/german Latin alphabet also evolved from Phoenician alphabet. Tamili is referred in pali literature to denote tamil scripts. Tamili is not scientific term, it's regional term.
@@manikandan-ml9gd 1200 - 800 bc not any proof have. Pali not related with tamili. Even paali word of school. Change in pali language like.
So proof have in scientific. Science proof only world accept too not in religion way. UNESCO told 1430 ad times record make it. Approved.
@@manikandan-ml9gd phoenician alphabet around both side coin. Greek king name antides have. Antides have 1,2,3,4 . Greek antides long year only give too. 2200 or 2300 times not in 1500 - 800 not like? Greek carbon dating 2200 / 2300 times only. Pali or tamli you can not read or speak directly but later bali word loan get it. Seven PODAGOAS times relationship with east asia time. Indonesia, sumuthara, java settle people.
@@francisrajanlobo2698 please don't blabber and waste my time.. 🤦
Now this is called a well researched and very well articulated video....people who commented on your previous video most probably don't know how complex the study of languages and scripts is. And they probably got that shallow knowledge from internet. Kudos to you
I was taught or told like Sanskrit is the oldest language of earth and every language on earth evolved from it. Now after watching this video i'm speechless
@@theinevitable8000 so what have u lernt now that sansikirt is it self drived from other older script and its not the oldest one .
@@doityourselfpakistan6535 yes it is derived from other languages
@@theinevitable8000 marathi, bengali, punjabi and hindi all North Indian languages evolved from sanskrit
@@theinevitable8000 no it is not derived from any languages other languages has been derived by it
Another great video! Suggestion for future video: what is the history of written numbering systems? What does it mean that modern numbers are Arabic numerals? How did those evolve and how does it relate to language?
Arabic numerals originate in India - It's interesting, many of the Indian writing systems shown in this video have their own corresponding number systems, including the old Brahma script ("Hindu-Arabic numeral system " on Wikipedia has a table of them). Eventually a set of numbers was modified for use by the Arabs, and this system was popularized in Europe in the early 1200s by Fibonacci. I would assume that the number systems evolved in a similar way with the other Indic scripts.
Originated in India translated in Arabic and reached europe
No, they’re Hindu-Arabic - a combination, not derivation
Jared Bowden Correct
@J D Dear friend, I understand your emotions, However one must be vigilant of the times he is in and hence act accordingly, not forgoing the truth but with the times.
Therefore I do not confirm with you as per.
It is true that, out of all the existing civilizations, India is the oldest and hence it's not far fetched to assume all other civilisations must have borrowed from India on the simple basis of logic and reason which is also supported with evidences, however civilizations develop in tandem and borrow from one another. In the case of India, the earlier and contemporary civilizations from which India had much give and take are extinct and there remanants have formed the newer civilizations who also have cooperatively developed with India albeit borrowing much and giving less, which would be a normal course of events for Senior-junior.
The Indian development has categorised these phenomenon of holding the truth but respecting the times, as 'Shruti' and 'Smriti', The Indian civilization of today is not outside of time or of natural course of events and hence is subject to all the natural developments that occur for a civilization. This cycle of time has all the ingredients as described through unravelling of Historical development of this world and India is a part of it.
Nonetheless I agree with you on the Spiritual level, not forgoing the truth. The Shruti are timeless and so is the Sanatan Dharma, once cycle leads to another and the repitition goes on but for one who has attained 'Moksha'.
The smritis however are bound to this timeline and true only for this 'Manvanter'. Shree Rama, Shree Krishna are the 'Avatars' within this Manvanter, that is with the times.
The earliest Sanskrit inscriptions were found in what is now northern Syria and date back to around 1450-1350 BCE. These inscriptions are written in cuneiform script and are considered to be the earliest form of Sanskrit, also known as Old Indic or Rigvedic Sanskrit. The inscriptions were left behind by the Mitanni people, who ruled over the upper Euphrates-Tigris basin during this time. Although the Mitanni spoke a language called Hurrian, many of their kings and local elites had Sanskrit names. The inscriptions also mention Vedic gods such as Varuna, Mitra, and Indra, and are thought to be roughly contemporaneous with the composition of the core of the Rigveda.
It's absolutely entirely different from
This was such a well-made video, thank you so much! Your precise way of expressing yourself makes your concepts not only easy to understand, but also avoid ambiguity and some common points of misunderstanding. Obviously, people with an agenda and a personal identification with specific languages may not agree with you, but the objectivity with which you present what is historically known is admirable and provides a useful tool for the layperson interested in linguistics. Thank you!
Just tell me one thing, did he gave any solid reference anywhere in this video supporting his claims?
@@theidleguy9041 So, his statements are baseless?
@@su-mu Ofcourse. He gave little or no references for his claims
@@theidleguy9041Agree. I wish he gave some references somewhere: Did not find any in the description either.
The invention of the Semitic written system is not the shape of the letters or the addition of some letters and vowels or the order of the letters. It is the abstract idea of reducing human language into primary unit sounds that can't be divided farther and assigning a written shape to that unit sound. this brilliant idea reduced the use of characters by a factor in the thousands.
Ancient Egyptian phonetics is also thought to be based on primary units of sound, without any representation of vowels
@Star Star Although, cuneiform is a mostly syllabic writing system with really abstract shapes, that would have been even more abstract by the time the Phoenician alphabet was invented
I wish u give up your religion and come back to Sanatana Dharma ...
I greatly appreciate all if your video presentations. I have learned a lot from you. The Cambodian language used a combination of Khmer, Sanskrit, and Pali. The written Khmer language was derived from the Abudiga Brahmi script that appeared in ancient Cambodia around the 6th century. Since then, the script had transformed about seven times to look like the present written form that is used in Cambodia.
Pali originates from Sanskrit btw
@True Light even murayans and guptas did, u ll find beautiful hindu - Buddhist fusion in entire sea countries.
And we know that ashoka spread buddism in sea countries
What a great video ✅. I’ve really been looking for the ages of the vedas and found so much conflicting info, this is was by far the best I’ve seen, thank you 🙏
No one knows the age of vedas. Even the 3500 years is just an estimate by colonizers. Do not takes assumptions and prejudices as hard facts.
It may be that one culture finally reached prominence and began trading with another culture and the languages mixed by accepting new products and definitions from another culture. This alleviates the burden of deciding which came first.
Oh gosh, the research in this video...Stellar work!
I just discovered your channel and I’m really enjoying it. Thank you for producing this type of content in a scholarly and unbiased way. 🙂
Deriving a new verb in turkish
1.(Der-mek= ~to set layout & to provide)=ter'kib & ter'tib etmek (used after the verbs which ending with a consonant)
Verb+"Der" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (ter-tir-tür/der-dir-dür/er-ir-ür)
Verb+"Dar" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (tar-tır-tur/dar-dır-dur/ar-ır-ur)
(ak-mak>aktarmak)(bakmak>baktırmak)(almak>aldırmak)(çıkmak>çıkarmak)(kaçmak>kaçırmak)
2.(Et-mek = ~ to make) (mostly used after the verbs ending with a vowel sound and when the suffix "der" was used before)
Verb+"T" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (t-it-üt)
Verb+"T" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (t-ıt-ut)
(ak-mak>akıtmak)(bakmak>bakıtmak)(yürümek>yürütmek)(yırmak>yırtmak)(öldürmek>öldürtmek)
3.(Eş=partner) (together or with partner)-(all together or altogether)-(each other or about each one)
Verb+"Eş" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (eş-iş-üş)
Verb+"Aş" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (aş-ış-uş)
(gör-mek-görüşmek) (bulmak>buluşmak)(uğramak-uğraşmak) (çalmak-çalışmak)
4.(Al / El)= come to a state/a form through someone or something (to get being ...ed)
Verb+"El" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (el-il-ül)
Verb+"Al" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (al-ıl-ul)
(it's used as N to shorten some verbs)
(gör-mek-görülmek) (satmak>-satılmak)(vermek>verilmek)(yemek>yeyilmek/yenmek)
5."En"=own diameter(self environment)=(about own self)
Verb+"En" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (en-in-ün)
Verb+"An" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (an-ın-un)
(gör-mek>görünmek) (bulmak>bulunmak) (tıkamak>tıkanmak) (kıvırmak>kıvranmak)
Mak/Mek...(emek)=exertion /process
Git=Go (verb root)
Git-mek= to go (the process of going)
(Git-der-mek>gittirmek)=1.Götürmek= to take away (2. Gidermek=~to resolve)
(Git-en-der-mek>gidindirmek)= Göndermek= to send
Gel-mek= to come
(Gel-der-mek>geltirmek)=Getirmek= to bring
1.Gelmek...2.Getirmek...3.Getirtmek...4.Getirttirmek..5.Getirttirtmek..and it's going so on
Dür-mek= to roll it up (to make it becomes a roll)
Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis ( törmek=old meaning)-(to stir it , to mix it(current meaning)
(döngü)törüş/törüv=tour (törüv-çi=turqui)(tör-geş=turkish)=tourist...(törük halk=mixed people in ownself)
(Tör-en-mek)>dörünmek= to rotate oneself /(2. to turn by oneself)
(Törn-mek)>Dönmek= to turn oneself
(Dön-der-mek)>döndürmek= to turn something
(Dön-eş-mek)>dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something
(Dön-eş-der-mek)>dönüştürmek= to convert/ to transform
Yürü-mek= to go on (to walk)
(Yürü-et-mek)>yürütmek= to make it go on
(Yürü-et-der-mek)>yürüttürmek=to be provider ensuring it's going on
simple wide tense
for positive sentences
Var-mak= to arrive (for the thick voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Ar-ır-ur)
Er-mek= to get (at) (for the subtle voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Er-ir-ür)
for negative sentences
Ma=not
Bas-mak= to dwell on /tread on (bas git= ~leave and go)
Maz=(negativity suffix)=(ma-bas) =(No pass)=Na pas=not to dwell on > vaz geç= give up (for the thick voiced words)
Ez-mek= to crush (ez geç= ~think nothing about)
Mez=(negativity suffix)=(ma-ez) =(No crush)=doesn't > es geç = skip (for the subtle voiced words)
Tan= the dawn
Tanımak= to recognize (~to get the differences of)
(Tanı-ma-bas)= tanımaz= ~doesn't recognize
(Tanı-et-ma-bas)= tanıtmaz= doesn't make it get recognized
(Tanı-en-ma-bas)= tanınmaz= doesn't inform about oneself (doesn't get known by any)
(Tanı-eş-ma-bas)= tanışmaz= doesn't get known each other
Tanışmak= to get to know each other =(~to meet first time)
Danışmak= to get information from each other
Uç=~ top point
(Uç-mak)= to fly
(Uç-a-var)= Uçar=it flies (arrives at flying)
(Uç-ma-bas)= uçmaz= doesn't fly (~gives up flying)
(Uç-der-ma-bas)=(uçturmaz)=uçurmaz= doesnt fly it (doesn't make it fly)
(Uç-eş-ma-bas)=uçuşmaz= doesn't (all)together fly
(Uç-al-ma-bas)=uçulmaz= doesn't get being flied
Su=water (Suv)=fluent-flowing (suvu)=Sıvı=fluid, liquid
Suv-mak=~ to make it flow onwards/upward (>sıvamak)
Suy-mak=~ to make it flow over
Süv-mek=~ to make it flow inwards
Sür-mek=~ to make it flow on something
Suv-up =liquefied=(soup)
Sür-up(shurup)=syrup Suruppah(chorba)=soup Suruppat(sherbet)=sorbet sharap=wine mashrubat=beverage
(Süp-mek)=~ to make it flow outwards
(süp-der-mek>süptürmek)>süpürmek=to sweep
Say-mak=~ to make it flow one by one (from the mind) = ~ to count ~ to deem (sayı=number) (bilgisayar=computer)
Söy-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (Söy-le-mek= to make the sentences flowing through the mind =~to say, ~to tell )
Sev-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (to the heart) = to love
Söv-mek=~ call names (to say whatever's on own mind)
Süy-mek=~ to make it flow from inside (süyüt) =Süt= milk
Soy-mak=~ to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob ) (Soy-en-mak)>soyunmak=to undress
(Sıy-der-mak)>sıyırmak= skimming, ~skinning
Siy-mek=~ to make it flow downwards =to pee Siyitik>Sidik= urine
Süz-mek=~ to make it lightly flow from up to downwards (~to filter, strain out)
Sez-mek=~ to make it lightly flow into the mind (~to perceive, to intuit)
Sız-mak=~ to get flowed slightly/slowly (~to infiltrate)
Sun-mak= to extend it forwards (presentation, exhibition, to serve up)
Sün-mek=to expand reaching outwards (sünger=sponge)
Sın-mak=to reach by extending upwards or forwards
Sin-mek=to shrink (oneself) by getting down or back (to lurk, to hide onself)
Sön-mek=to get decreased by getting out or in oneself (to be extinguished)
Sağ-mak= ~ to make it's poured down (Sağanak=downpour)
(sağ-en-mak)>sağınmak=~ to make oneself poured from thought into emotions
(Sağn-mak)>San-mak= ~ to make it pour from thought to idea (to arrive at the idea)
Sav-mak=~ to make it pour outwards (2.>put forward- set forth in) (sağan)=Sahan=the container to pour water
(Sav-der-mak)>(savdurmak)> savurmak (Sav-der-al-mak)>(savurulmak)> savrulmak=to get scattered/driven away
(Sav-en-mak)>savunmak=to defend (Sav-en-al-mak)>savunulmak=to get being defended
(Sav-eş-mak)1.>savaşmak=to pour blood / to shed each other's blood (savaş= the war)
2.savuşmak=to get spilled around.(altogether-downright)=(sıvışmak=~running away in fear)
(Sav-eş-der-mak)1.>savaştırmak=(~to make them fight each other)2.>savuşturmak =(ward off-fend off)
Sürmek = ~ to make it flow on something
(Sür-e--er)= sürer = lasts /gets go on /drives / spreads on
(Sür-der-mek)> sürdürmek= to make it continue (~to sustain)
(Sür-der-e--er)= sürdürür = makes it last forwards ,(makes it continue)
(Sür-ma-ez)= sürmez = doesn't drive / gives up fllowing on / skips the spread of
(Sür-der-ma-ez)= sürdürmez =doesn't make it go on (doesn't make it continue)
(Sür-al-ma-ez)= sürülmez =doesnt get driven by any.. (2.doesnt get followed by any)
Sür-en-mek> sürünmek= (~to makeup) (~rides odor) (~to paint oneself)
Sürü-mek= to take it away forward / backward on the floor
(Sürü-e--er)=sürür=takes it away forward
(Sürü-et-mek)=(sürütmek) sürtmek=~to rub
(Sürü-al-mek)=2.sürülmek=to get expelled
(Sürü-en-mek)=2.sürünmek=to creep on
(Sürü-en--der-mek)=süründürmek=~to make it's creeping on
(Sürü-et-en-mek)=sürtünmek=to have a friction
(Sürü-et--eş-mek)=sürtüşmek=to get rubbed each other
(Gör-mek)=to see
(Gör-e-er)=görür=(that) sees
(Gör-ma-ez)=görmez= doesn't see
(Gör-en-ma-ez)= görünmez= doesn't show oneself (doesn't seem)
(Gör-al-ma-ez)= görülmez= doesn't get seen by any..
(Gör-eş-ma-ez)= görüşmez= doesn't get seen each other
(Görs-der-ma-ez)>göstermez=(that) doesn't show
(Görs)=(Khorus) Göz=Eye
(Görs-et-mek)>görsetmek=to make it visible
(Görs-der-mek)>göstermek=to show
1.(la/le = to make via)-~getting by means of ~to do through it -to make by this way ~getting with ) (used after the nouns and adjectives)
(.le-mek-..la-mak) (.le-et-mek- .la-et-mak) (.le-et-der-mek-.la-et-der-mak)
(.lemek-.lamak) (.letmek- .latmak) (.lettirmek-.lattırmak)
Tıŋı= the tune (timbre)
Tıŋı-la-mak= to get the sound out >(Tınlamak=~reacting /answering )(~to take heed of)
Tıŋ-mak= to react vocally
Tıngırdatmak=to try playing the musical instrument
Tiŋi-le-mek=to get the sound in >(Dinlemek= to listen)
Tiŋ-mek=to get at the silence >(Dinmek= to calm down / to get quiescent
2.(laş/leş =(ile-eş)= (to become equal with.) (to get the same) (used after the nouns and adjectives)
(.leşmek-.laşmak.) (.leştirmek-.laştırmak) (.leştirtmek- .laştırtmak)
3.(lan/len =(ile-en)= (to become with)- (to get like this )(to have -this way.) (used after the nouns and adjectives)
(.lenmek-.lanmak.) (.lendirmek-.landımak) (.lendirtmek- .landırtmak)
by reiterations
(Parıl Parıl) parıl-da-mak= to gleam
(Kıpır Kıpır) kıpır-da-mak
(Kımıl Kımıl) kımıl-da-mak
by colors
Ak= white
Ağar-mak = to turn to white
Kara= black
Karar-mak=to become blackened
Kızıl= red
Kızar-mak= to turn red (to blush) (to be toasted)
by a whim or a want
Su-sa-mak= to thirst
Kanık-sa-mak
öhö-tsu-ur (öksür-mek)=to cough
tüh-tsu-ur (tüksür-mek/tükürmek)=to spit out
tıh-tsu-ur (tıksır-mak)
hak-tsu-ur (aksır-mak)
hap-tsu-ur (hapşur-mak)=to sneeze
Only if Nalanda survived, all these questions would have been answered, as Nalanda library stored manuscripts in every scholarly language of that time.
Shameful us still have bakhtiyarpur
It had a 14
Million books
in a 14 storey building
search who and why buddism was destroyed
@@fuzzyblue74 What is your purpose to prove here
Bharat never had Buddhism in rural areas which has always been the majority of the population Buddhism was in only some cities of northern India and it ended because of the invasion and introduction of a much more violent religion Islam and Buddhism doesn't allow you to weild weapons Buddhism is not a religion for ages it just can't survive of the basis of peace
Now I expect you to be from the abhramic religions if yes then tell me what was the need to kill all indigenous religions from japan Philippines Australia Indonesia newzealand Egypt Iran Africa and Americas
Who are you to decide your religion is supreme and jesus/Allah is one true god
@@MAHIPALKUMAR-b9r says who ?? I’ve studied history n all old monumental places, do u know nalamda was a Buddhist place ?
Thanks, i had a test on ancient languages, i'll make the best of this!
This was excellent. Thank you for making this
I can't believe that I found that so interesting, but I did indeed. thank you for so kindly sharing. Be well. Bye now
The Sanskrit language is written in numerous scripts in different regions across the Indian subcontinent. The use of Devanagari is fairly recent. The present Devanagari script (the most widely used script to write the Sanskrit language) is a fusion of different North Indian scripts. The Sanskrit language can be written using many different scripts (depending on which region of India uses a particular script). There are so many different ancient scripts and ancient languages of India that this topic of scripts used in India deserves a video of its own in order to understand what languages were written in which scripts and which scripts were utilized to record which languages in India's history.
For example: A list of eighteen ancient scripts is found in the early Jaina texts, such as the Paṇṇavaṇā Sūtra (2nd century BCE) and the Samavāyāṅga Sūtra (3rd century BCE). These Jain script lists include Brahmi at number 1 and Kharoṣṭhi at number 4, but also Javanaliya (probably Greek) and others not found in the Buddhist lists.
To add to this complexity:
The Brahmi script is the originator of most of the present Indian scripts, including Devanagari, Bengali, Tamil, and Malayalam, and also Dravidian scripts derive from the Brahmi script. The sudden appearance of the Brahmi writing system is one of the great mysteries of writing in India, as there is no evidence of inscriptions beforehand.
The Kharosthi script s the sister script and contemporary of Brahmi. It was used in the Gandhara culture of North-Western India and is sometimes also called the Gandhari Script. Its inscriptions have been found in the form of Buddhist Texts from present clay Afghanistan and Pakistan. Kharosthi of northwest Pakistan and Afghanistan seems to be clearly derived from the imperial Aramaic script used by the Persians who ruled over parts of the Indus Valley for two centuries until the arrival of Alexander the Great.
The Gupta script (also known as the Late Brahmi script) was used for writing Sanskrit in the Gupta period. It gave rise to the Nagari, Sarada and Siddham scripts which in turn gave rise to the most important scripts of India such as Devanagari, Bengali etc.
The Nagari script was an Eastern variant of the Gupta script. It is an early form of the Devanagari script. It branched off into many other scripts such as Devanagari, Bengali, and Tibetan etc. It was used to write both Prakrit and Sanskrit.
The Devanagari script is the main script at present to write standard Hindi, Rhajastani, Marathi, Maithili, Kashmiri, Sindhi, and Nepali as well as Santhali, Konkani and many other Indian languages. It is also used presently to write Sanskrit and is one of the most used writing systems in the world. It is composed of Deva meaning, (God) and Nagari meaning, (city), which meant that it, was both religious and urbane or sophisticated. Other scripts, such as Gujarati and Bengali, were developed or derived from Devanagari.
The Grantha script is one of the earliest Southern scripts to originate from Brahmi. It branched off into Tamil and Malayalam scripts, which are still used to write those languages, It is also the predecessor of the Sinhala script used in Sri Lanka. A variant of Grantha called Pallava was taken by Indian merchants in Indonesia, where it led to the development of many South-East Asian scripts. It was used in Tamil Nadu to write the Sanskrit Granthas and hence, was named Grantha.
The Tamil script is the script used to write the Tamil language in southern parts of India and Sri Lanka. It evolved from Grantha, the Southern form of Brahmi.
According to the epigraphers- All Indian scripts are derived from Brahmi. There are three main families of scripts:
1. Devanagari, which is the basis of the languages of northern and western India: Hindi, Gujarati, Bengali, Marathi, Dogri, Panjabi, etc.
2. Dravidian which is the basis of Telugu, Kannada
3. Grantha is a subsection of the Dravidian languages such as Tamil and Malayalam, but is not as important as the other two.
Regional linguistic differences also helped Indic writing proliferate into many scripts in both South and Southeast Asia. It became prestigious for every major language to have its own script, though what evolved into today’s Devanagari (which began to emerge by the 7th century CE) script retained a special prestige due to its close association with Sanskrit.
Out side of India : oh great video
Inside india : this is not correct ,he know nothing ,he is saying what westerns know😂
*Inside India:* We invented nuclear weapons in 7000BC. We wuz kangz!! Bharat mata ki jay!!!
Broooo 😂😂😂
@@KhukuriGod what an absurd headcanon claim... Lol.. Whatever dude.. Whatever floats your boat...
@@KhukuriGod idea of nuclear weapons and aerodynamics is in the indian scriptures.
Bharat mata ki jai is permanent.
@@KhukuriGod savage !! 😂
Sir, I only want to comment that you are matchless, unique.... I have no words to describe you, simply matchless, great, very studious and very useful, and true to the point
Mr P you have mastered the art of ass kissing. You will do very well in Indian politics
@@ajazio ok Al Haramain perfumes Hyderabad
I feel like it's important to mention that languages can not only be conveyed via writing and sounds, but also by signs/gestures.
Not *entirely* relevant to the topic, but I saw the definition of language at the beginning, and the sign language teacher inside me couldn't help but reminds others like always lol
女性愛理ん your point is very true.. As anthropologists we often struggle with the question when human "language"-like communication started, since our vocalchords did develope a quite late, but socialization needed a form of language and this could go back in time as far as 70k years ago or even further
There can be whistle register out of it or a finger flicking register ...
IIRC the definition i learnt uses the word "Medium". For comunication the language is a "Code" and the sounds are gestures the "Meduim" where that code is transmitted. It's a good model, is adaptable for a LOOOT of different times of communication
Mam what does this signs mean?
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Learned about Prakrit & Brahmi Lipi.
Aural tradition is still prevalent in religious institutions that teach samskrit hymns.
Thank you for an illuminating documentary on the language ,Sanskrit.
He's wrong about the dates.
Sanskrit maybe is standardized form of prakrit because the meaning of prakrit means natural and Sanskrit means civilized or standardized
Good point
Are u fool? Prakrit has descended from vedic Sanskrit
@Nihilist Seeker well current Nepali bhasa is also standardized from khas bhasa . I am no expert on this I am sharing this from someone else view which I thought was legit .
@Nihilist Seeker Sanskrit can't be a common man's language buddy lot of work is done to make this scientific language. It's a work of geniuses not a command man
@Nihilist Seeker so you think Sanskrit was comman men language? It just doesn't fit with evolution does it? I believe some cult of geniuses made it from lot of hard work
Really appreciate the research that goes into creating these videos. Always so much to learn and think about! Thank you for being such a thorough educator :)
Hi
The modern writing of Sanskrit like devanagari and bramhi might be younger. But linear A, b and IVC script itself was writing Sanskrit only and that makes it the oldest written language. The transformation from surviving IVC script (which are just seals with name of the person) to brahmi to other Indian written languages is quite apparent and impossible to unsee once you see it and the only reason 'experts' are not making the connection is dishonesty and agenda
@@deepika2440 but most scholars argued that the Brahmi script had originated earlier than the 3rd century BCE. This claim is based on the composition of a set of texts, the Brahmanas, which were attached to the Vedic literature during the 6th century BCE. The Brahmanas are the only section of the Vedic corpus written mostly in prose, unlike the earlier sections of the Vedas which are hymns for recitation, specially designed for oral transmission.
@@deepika2440 Sanskrit was the language spoken by the elite as early as at least 2000 BCE and Prakrit was the dialect of the masses. Both Sanskrit and Prakrit were written in the Brahmi script.
@@deepika2440 Sanskrit (or Prakrit) belongs to Tamils and has been predominantly used by Tamil kings (Chera/Chola/Pandias - Devars - Lords) to promote unity, culture, religion, economy, literature, knowledge, and science (Linguafranca). This can be gauged from the fact that these kings not only ruled the entire India but also the world. They have been the once dominant world power and are the true natives of Indus Valley Civilization. Later Sanskrit has been adopted by various other kings and dynasties of Indian sub-continent.
What a deep and meaningful explanation. Thank You so much.
7:05 we don't have any surviving examples of writings in India before 250BCE.
Meanwhile Tamil Brahmi in Keezhadi " Am I a joke to you?"
please don't call it Tamil Brahmi... it is actually Thamizhi
No one cares. No one. This video is about Sanskrit, please don't spam all videos with , "Oh, what about Keezhadi, Keezhadi, Tamil is oldest....oh...."
Meh. Sanskrit is in a different league altogether 🏅🏅🛕🙂
I think the uploadeder is a blind or deaf to see your comment
@@naiyayika if you don't care y comment
@@sathiyangovindasamy7929 No it is not.
Well the whole theory that Brahmi came from Aramaic is no longer valid, because more pre-Ashokan inscriptions have been found recently of earlier time than 250BCE. Examples include Brahmi script of Anuradhapura, Srilanka of 5th-6th century BCE, Tamil Brahmi script from Kaladi, Tamilnadu from 4th century BCE. Please include them.
Yeah, it is strange that he only did partial research on this topic... Why would anyone talk about something so complicated like sanskrit and risk making mistakes - like the one you mention.
There are many other mistakes in this video, so it is clear that youtubers just dnt have the respect for foreign history, systems or culture.
@@summergram Plus they read more from colonized British fake history of Aryan-Invasion Theory, so anything Indian has to be imported from middle-east and Central Asia. :-) The Indus valley civilization and following Vedic civilization are a nightmare to them. Because other older civilizations like Babylon, Egyptians, Roman, Mayan are destroyed easily by the European, but only Indian and Chinese civilization stood tall to those invaders and still thriving.
There are Jewish burial tombs around 300bc in South India. So contact with middleast and india is very old. They might have introduced early version of ibrahim script.
Writing systems are adopted based of ease of writing. Just like we use english alphabets while texting in our mother tongue using phones. Becoz it is easier to type.
It is very possible Indians might have dropped native scripts for foreign ones.
We still haven't deciphered Indus script. Until then we can only make conclusions based on evidence we have. i.e. brahmi might have roots in Phoenician
@@bineshsukumaran1994 What exactly is this evidence that you mention. I am much interested. Kindly share it.
soo true , i waa going to comment the same but don't need to now😬👏
This is a good video. Although many emotional statements will fall out based on where we live and what language we love, this rational way of understanding and accepting will have to be done. Which is the oldest is good to know. Can you make something like which is the most influential? Also why was chinese, japnese etc left out. Or did I miss that video! Anyways thank you.
The Chinese and Japanese script have no relationship with the other writting systems discussed. The point of the video was to show how most writting systems descend from Egyptian Hieroglyphs thanks to the spread of the Phoenician Alphabet. The Han Characters were a Completely independent development. Just like Sumerian Cuneiform, Mesoerican Glyps and many many others
Well explained! Great video! Thanks !
Look into Dravidian scripts used in India, they must have evolved from a ancient script/ language (idk which) that existed in Southern Asia, which later evolved into Southern India as proto - Tamil and other SE Asian countries as their own scripts.
Also it's strange that a lot of Korean and Tamil worlds seem to match, despite the two countries (India and Kor) being nowhere near one another. Could be due to trade which we know the Chola empire with their massive navy would thrive on trade with ancient China/ Korea and other East Asian countries.
@@JOJO-of8vl
Another possibility...
One of the ancient Korean royal family was from Ayodhya in North India.
I got to know very recently but was surprised that some Koreans are aware of this.
I don't remember the details but there are a few TH-cam videos on the subject.
@@anilvashist6758 the story of queen Heo Hwang Ok and King Kim Suro.
Bravo! Another, entertaining and enlightened video.
I'm impressed by the depth and understandability of your videos. They're so clear, and well explained, I love them. I'm definitely subscribing, maybe getting some posters in the future. I'm a bit history buff, and language / writing systems are the part that interests me the most, the un-cracked languages and systems are like the enigma codes of our day, and I love learning about them and the attempts made to decypher and understand them. The ones we have cracked, it's like if I wrote something today, and 5,000 years later they were able to find it out (poor people, getting their hopes up and it'd probably be some really awkward letter constantly apologising that I couldn't think of anything to write down and telling them I'm sorry I wasted their time).
Thank you so much for putting all these together for us.
Rig Veda mentions things live the river Saraswati which dried up around 7-9000 years ago , and it speaks of such as if it were present at that time. This and other findings suggest the Rig Veda is even older, and considering the fact that most hindu texts were originally passed down orally , it could only mean that the vedas are even older.
What a religious text can't possibly absorb information from other sources and must be a first hand accounts of the event it is quoting. Is what you sound like.
The old testament mentions events in the distant past before it was composed, no rational person goes huh must be contemporarnoius accounts of events.
@@ANTSEMUT1 bro I never said that. I only mean to say that recent evidence suggests that Hinduism is older than what western historians suggest. To be very honest tho, I personally believe there is no One religion called Hinduism in reality. It's a conglomerate and it is dynamic unlike Abrahamic Ones.
@@ANTSEMUT1 bro , the bible is full of shit that absolutely sounds like fiction.
Hinduism is completely different from even the western idea of a religion. We're open to questioning, debate and everything else.
Just to let you know the context , I myself am an Athiest Hindu, and also a Statistician and a man of Science.
@@SattickDas2001 you framed it like it was a primary source for those events, not a second hand account it got off something earlier and incorporated into it's mythos. Also Hinduism probably has roots in proto Indo European religion conglomerating with indus valley religion and other indigenous religious motifs.
@@ANTSEMUT1 anyways , do some research before you say sometimes. The vedas aren't even religious texts , they are a set of hyms that were originally passed by word of mouth. So it is obvious that quite a lot of information there is pretty dubious. But the archaeo-astronomical data present in the texts can help in uncovering a lot of information that we are yet to know!
Excellent explanation. Removing all confusion. Thanks
दूसरी से हैलो, मैं हूँ कार्यकर्ता नई दिल्ली में। इस भाषा के बारे में आपकी जानकारी के लिए आप शुक्रिया अदा किया गया था।यह इतना जानकारीपूर्ण है!
8,212 BCE -- The Veda or Vedic hymns are a set of religious hymns that were introduced into the societies of Earth. They came forward in spoken tradition, memorized, from generation to generation. "The Hymn to the Dawn Child'' includes an idea called the "cycle of the physical universe": the creation, growth, conservation, decay and death or destruction of energy and matter in a space. These cycles produce time. The same set of hymns describes the "theory of evolution". Here is a tremendous body of knowledge which contains a great deal of spiritual truth. The Vedas were learned by them, memorized and carried forward verbally for 7,000 years before being committed to written form.
Whatever you have written may be true because the Indian subcontinent had had a long oral tradition of passing the acquired knowledge to future generations but the timeline of 7000 years does not seem realistic for the simple reason that the Harappan civilization preceded the Vedic civilization and Harappan civilization is estimated to have existed till 2500 BC. More information is expected on this.
Perfect.....
Where are you from ?
Informative and well-presented. Thank you. Please note that the first half of the word "Sanskrit" is pronounced like the English word suns, not like the English sans.
This video is not fully informative 😐
...and historically and linguistically ACCURATE too. Not based on personal emotions, cultural baggage, myths and legends
@@thetruthseeker5448 the speaker begins by suggesting that original Sunskrit [which he knows not how to pronounce) is "probably" from Aramaic. By the end of his presentation even he himself doubts his own original comments. there is the suggestion that Sanskrit may have been invented by someone,, May i suggest that "Like the table of the atomic elements" Some great sage received it in his consciousness and it continued on, Too many linguistic connections show that it existed long before any middle eastern languages, In the indus valley archeological discoveries of recent years the skeleton of a Yogi in Lotus posture has been dated at about 7,000 years - how many millennia prior to that was required to develop this advanced science and what language did they speak?
@@federicoparente3310 He said Brahmi could be a new invention, not Sanskrit...
@@federicoparente3310 dude, he never made those claims, he said language isn't the same as script (and it isn't, otherwise German and English would be the same thing as Latin), and that the sanskrit language is ancient and rich, there's just no evidence of it being written down before it came in contact with Greeks and Persians. He never claimed Aramaic is a linguistic ancestor of sanskrit, he never said anything you claim he did.
Your channel is the unique on TH-cam that I watch the same video several times! Thank you to share your amazing work.
Didn't think you'd touch make on the language landscape, pleasant surprise! June 19th better come quick.
You can refer tamil language... still its alive..Archaeological findings in keezhdi(tamilnadu)will give more insights
tamil may be as old as sanskrit but it doesn't have same impact as sanskrit
Although you are correct, the current version of tamil is quite different to classical tamil.
@@utubetruthteller Dude, I don't think so. If you find clearly about the history of Tamil language, it had caused far more impact than Sanskrit language. The history that we are learning about languages of India is been biased and deceived by current ruling system.
@@shanmugamshan2459 mere rhetoric wont convince people, if tamil was so great why dont tamil priest dont use tamil mantras for puja, sanskrit grammar is superior to any other indo European languages like Latin and greek, English let alone tamil language, its quite futile to argue against that.
@@utubetruthteller Yes true but no worries, one day the truths will come out.
Quite knowledgeable and quite clear too. Congratulations
I liked to see that many of yours viewers are very enthusiastic to know about ancient languages like Sanskrit.. and thier comments in your comment box is not a single rubbish thay said in their comments..👏👏 very knowledgeable information you have shared with us
Hey Matt thanks so much for keeping up with your videos really helping me with quarantine, always look forward to vids, you are among my favourite TH-camrs
Such a nice video. Very clear and concise. Love such content. It's always interesting to note similarities, patterns and such things.
As an Aramean who speaks Aramaic you really showed me another view of my language I didn’t know existed. Thank you!!
Where do you live?
Scrip
He was just distorting facts, nothing else. He didn't gave any solid reference behind his claims.
Don't get hyper. The video maker is fooling you. May be aramic came out to europe from India. Do some serious research.
@@deepakvaidya425 what are you talking about sir? Aramaic was never spoken in Europe and it's closely related with Ge'ez and Arabic
The earliest Tamil writing is attested in inscriptions and potsherds from the 5th century bce. Three periods have been distinguished through analyses of grammatical and lexical changes: Old Tamil (from about 450 bce to 700 ce), Middle Tamil (700-1600), and Modern Tamil (from 1600).
U r talking about the brahmi script.. it is not a tamil thing but most languages on the subcontinent had their scripts origins from that script..
can you do me a favor: solve the indus valley script? asking for mankind.
@Chitragupta if it were easy, then it would have already been cracked
Far greater minds have failed to do it.. I doubt this guy can
I think already done by Prof U R Rao
@@WangJinZhu that was sarcasm my friend
@@Ss-tt9pp OKK
I like the description of the vid so neat and simple,, feel not stressed
Thank you for this video and the research. Love information about old and ancient language and writing systems.❤️📖
Many Indians here misunderstood. The video does not state that Sanskrit emerge around 500BC but all the scripts that was used to write sanskrit did not trace back further than 500 BC. Not that the Indian civilisation did not have a writing system of their own or that they did not write down Sanskrit using whatever script they had but sometime in 600 to 500 BC Indian scholars seem to have taken a liking for the Aramaic system. They did not use the actual ancient Aramaic symbols which can be seen in modern Hebrew but they use the system and created their own circularic square symbols to write their languages both sacred and temporal.
Just to add PS. Ancient people were not bothered by narrow ultra nationalistic pride. If foreign cultures had something good that they coulf use , they readily adopted them to their own use.
😂 you said it! @@sonnymak6707
Thank you. I am novice student absorbing many of your videos just recently discovering them.
This is a very interesting video. Kindly put some light on Odia scripts too. During ancient time it was called as Kalingan script. The modern name of Kalinga is Odisha (Britishers called it Orissa)
British no "er" you don't call Indians indianers do you?
@@ANTSEMUT1 you wanna fight English ? Ok . Let me tell you why Britishers is correct . 1) my autocorrect didn’t highlight it 😂
2) The British = the term ‘Britishers’ .
The British called it Orissa = Britishers called it Orissa .
@@siddhantmishra3598 We call them Brits, not Britishers
@@siddhantmishra3598 The correct term is Brit’s.
@@avecxesar No, because that means either "Brit is" or something possessed by a "Brit". You mean "Brits". Please learn proper apostrophe usage.
Thanks for giving useful insights about the languages like Vedic Sanskrit ( which was the language of Vedic hyms), the indigenous Prakrit languages of ancient North India and later Classical Sankrit (which was literary and religious language of later Hindu literature.) And scripts such as Brahmi and Devnagri (which is used to write Modern Sanskrit, Hindi, modern Marathi etc.
The present day North Indian languages are probably a mixture of indigenous tribal and regional languages, Sanskrit and many loan words from Persian, Afgan and Turkic languages.
7:14 Sir Tamil inscriptions have been found in India dating to 500BCE
Thank you for the information sooooooooooooooooo much !🎉
I don’t care what came first but I’m really impressed with the amount of research you put in to make this video! Much respect for you brother. 🙏🏻
IIRC, some pots dating to ~500BCE were found in south India or Sri Lanka which had Brahmi script.
Absolutely NO there were no sanskrit scripts in suth india at all. Bullshit
@@mumu6655 But Bramhi script is the mother of both South and North Indian script.
@@itzabhinav2220 it's tamizhi not your Brahmi it's much older than the Brahmi in the ashokan pillar
@@karthick_thiyagarajan any credible source
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802keezhadi findings are the best examples for it it dates back to 3rd Century BCE same as Ashokan Brahmi and there are lots of similarities between Tamizhi and the letters inscription in the pots of Mohenjodaro
Thank you for the knowledge, well done video !! 💖🙏
7:14 Sir Tamil inscriptions have been found in India dating to 500BCE you worked in Sri Lanka as well you should know this.
Bother don't forget Tamil and Sanskrit both have Brahmi which many politically motivated person called Tamil Brahmi which is the same thing
@@gituparnasarma _/
Saaar Tamil older saaar😢😢
@@gituparnasarma no. U should see Aadichanallur recent inscription.
Grand Saraswati of Earliest Rig Veda times,
Different from her flow in Ramayana times,
Greatly Reduced in Mahabharat times.
These phenomena are dated long back by the researchers from the time you mentioned.
True
@Jonita Singh 200 years later U, Me, Every Being Existing Now will be myth to the then existing generation. And this is the truth of the thinking capacity of the human mind. We go to where we come from. Just a fleeting memory ☺️
@Jonita Singh Vishnu atop a snake in milk of ocean is from the Purānas which are metaphorical but Ramāyana and Mahābharata are called Ithihāsa meaning - So happened.
You have not mentioned about Tamil sangam era texts!
Exactly
watching this video is waste of Time. unlimited lier or unmatured
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho It was said to be located in Then Madurai under the patronage of 89 Pandya kings,[2][3][4] during this period. It is said to have lasted for 4,440 years, and this would put the First Sangam between 9600 BCE to 5200 BCE.[5][6]
allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho in how many comments you blabber like this? Can you show proof of Sanskrit scripture on rocks, pillars , stone tablets or pot sheds dating back 300 BCE. Video clearly tells that we dont have any such proof.. talking about million years ago blah blah blah is waste. Atleast prakrit has edicts 300 BC proof. Why not we didnt get proof of Sanskrit scriptures. On wide spread indian land, you say sanskrit is mother for all new languages and old languages but still you didn't have scriptutures and edicts olders than 100 CE. Simply show an epic or vedic text dating 1400 AD, which claims itself many thousand years ago. What if the guy who wrote just wrote it with poetic exaggeration? And now I can create a language that is similar to sanskrit and copy and use all letters and meanings from sanskrit and i can claim all those older kings are from my language. Will you accept? Have some logic sense and lateral thinking.. if I'm the ruler, and destroy the other language, and then 1000 years from now who would know the difference. Since there are contemporary languages like sanskrit in later ages, tamil used many words from sanskrit/ prakrit. It happens because thousands of years people from different languages living and communicating. Jain and buddhist monks who travelled and spread intermixing of languages.
This is the kind of content and research that we NEED alot more focus on! Thank you for making this video.
Excellent video. Thank you. Subscribed.
2:30, yeah, I get really upset nowadays lmao, when people can't tell the difference between Spoken Language and Written Script. The 2 are entirely different. You can adopt any script and ascribe it to any language. Language is primarily spoken rather than written.
Heck, you can literally even hypothetically write English with Arabic and Farsi letters
أس ا هٔم دُوٍگ رايت ناو، سي؟ إت'س إنگلِش، بَت إن ء دِفرهنت سكرِپت.
Yeah, I may have actually spent a while with it lol, coming up with Grammar rules as well, but see my point? You can easily adapt any writing system to any language.
There's a language in Indonesia that only recently adopted a written form and decided to use Hangul.
I mean English itself used to be written in Anglo-Saxon runes, which are different from Latin script.
I saw in quora somebody who was arguing that the Turkish Latin alphabet made much more sense than the English Latin alphabet by writing English sentences in Turkish and they were much faster to read. I’m wondering now what would happen if languages were just transcribed in whatever scripts were used in a place, I.e. if you are writing English in Israel, you’d write it like this:
הלוֹ! האַוֹ אר יוּ? אַי אם גוּד, תנק יוּ! אַי פינד דיס רילי איזי!
@@shayne-1880 Isn't that what Yiddish is in a sense? A language based on German with Hebrew letters?
@@shayne-1880 And of course Hebrew itself changed it's lettering system historically.
FYI.... In Mahabharata which is also in sanskrit..... there is a river mentioned known as 'Sarswati' and this Lost Saraswati river dried up some 5000 years ago..... and i am giving you the data mentioned by British reaserchers who once came to India just to loot Wealth from India around 250 year's ago
From where did you get this 5000 year old script? Is it kept in some museum? Have you seen it? Can you tell me the names of this British researchers or where are their research papers published? Please send me the references, if you have any. I won't accept Whatsapp university forwards as evidence 🤣
@@paragdesai1370 so u r trying to say that u don't accept sources from what's app University but u fully trust British sources..... r they ur forefather's or what 🤔
@@er.abhitwankhede4143 Just give me any evidence which proves Mahabharta/Sanskrit being 5000 years old. Any evidence which can be verified is fine.
@@paragdesai1370 unfortunately the can't link WhatsApp forwards
@@darali568 see Nilesh oak's video to get ideas about what he is talking, converted fool
Thanks for the difference between writing system and language...
Kindly consider making a separate video on South Asian Languages, Indian languages, Tamil (recently written Tamil dated to 600BCE by kiladi excavation)
Its a humble request to see all in one place.
The 600 BC Tamil appears to be heavily disputed, so I wouldn't be too sure it's correct.
@@vve2059 i feel sorry for your poor mind and that you will never broaden.
@@seigeengine
Sorry ! Always you ppl in disputed mind... What to do myths become history... But True never can be hide or steal ! One day it will come out... 600 BCE it's just beginning !!!🤷🏿♂️ Our govt didn't done full excavation more than acre of land is there !!!
Aathichanalur excavation report waiting for more than 30 yrs... That dated beyond everything !!!
@@vve2059 போய் சாவுடா
Yes. Certainly. Prakrit is derived from tamil bhrami and pali language
Thank you for a very detailed and scholarly video.
Try to read about porunthal caves excavation. The tamili (Tamil brahmi) script was found along with paddy carbon dated to 500bce.
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho he is showing archeological proof of tamil recently. Meanwhile you show similar to sanskrit. Otherwise litreture wise tamil is 10000 yrs and mythically 50000 yrs old. So dont post your stories mythically, post archeologically with proof like him.
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho show the proof man like tamil. Sculptures, pots any thing. Simply dont overwhelm here. If you have proof post the link or else shut up.
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho aadichanalur excavations proofs tamil is 3000 years older and the tamil brahmi scripts has indus valley scripts letters.
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho who said I'm lying first release the papers of excavation done by ASI in aadichanalur even court order to release them but there is no response from central government and ASI
@allàh jeśùš mullo aur chiŕstiano ke baap aapkeseho there is a script of jallikattu
Well explained! I must admit I was completely confused about Sanskrit and it's writing systems, the relationship with Hindi, etc. Thanks Matt for making this video!!! Love the writing systems videos, please keep them coming!! I secretly hope you have something to say about Chinese characters as well lol.
Well, I had to post this video in the comments on another video because of Sanskrit being called a written language there. Thanks for clarity!
Earluest sanskrit writing is the Rig Veda dated 1464 CE in the Bhsndarkar Institute
3:33 you're wrong.
Evidence 1- River Saraswati which has flown twice in history- before 10,000 BC the first time and then between 6000-4000 BC the second time. Rigveda has hymns about the intense flow of river saraswati.. so intense that Rigveda describes it as alive river. If Rigveda was written in 1500 BC it would've never known of Saraswati.
Evidence 2- There's an archaeological site in Sinauli, Western UP, India which is estimated to be older than any even the Masopotamian civilisation.
Rigveda describes 3 processes of cremation after death. Remains from all 3 burial/ cremation processes have been excavated from Sinauli. This again rejects the claim that Rigveda is only from 1500 BC, but actually much older text than that.
@Moon Cahn ok.. I'll take the challenge.
I challenge you to give me evidence of these so called 'Aryans' first. After that we can talk on lengths about Saraswati river. Challenge accepted
Deep Underground, Now How Deep It Is, And How Wide, How Much Distance From One Point To Anonther Point ?. And Saraswati Is A Hidden River From Everyone Eyes. It Is Not Above The Ground To Be Called Saraswati River, Then Who Name This River ?
@@ln1050 Are you mad? RV clearly talks about Saraswathy as the Mother of all rivers. There are 27 references to Saraswathy in RV from its earliest mandalas. This is the reason why White geologists and Indologists wanted Saraswathy to be in Afghanistan, Iran and anywhere but India. They tried to call Saraswathy a mythical river while accepting all other rivers mentioned in RV as real rivers. The paleo channel was first traced by Britisher Oldham. There are more IVC sites in Saraswathy bed than Indus bed. Rakhigarhi/ Birrhana are almot 8000 years old. My surmise is that RV was being continuosly composed over a very long period of time, a time when writing was not invented and it developed into the urban culture that is IVC. Migration may have happened in 1500-2000 BC but these migrants did not bring RV to India. There are seals in IVC which depict Yoga asanas. And Yoga was composed by Patanjali. You can see a continuous chain of civilizational change/ advancement from early RV texts (Mandala 9) to end of IVC after which Ganges becomes the foremost river for Indians. As for this PIE bull shit is concerned it has no legs to stand on since this hypothesis is never falsifiable. It is a figment of imagination of Superiority drunk white men who wanted to appropriate anything worthwhile to whites. Mark my words - In a 50 to 100 years time Whites would have appropriated yoga, vedanta also saying this was practiced in Greece and was handed down to Indians by the early Greeks.
It’s a new invention at its time and evolved over time and not related to other languages as shown here, other references shown might have originated from Sanskrit as history has shown us that Persians are very good at copying things.
Haha...so true.
Not really, the Brahmi script is most likely derived from the Aramaic script
the reconstruction of the Sarai Nahar Rai 11thousand yer old fossil in Uttar Pradesh looks like your average b rahmin. Now who is the moolnivasi? Lol
Search sulkalmakh (30k years prior) account over at twatter!
Dont eat samosas then
@@-LTUIiiin you stop being a Arab wannabe first and secondly, stop using lemons and turmeric too. Lemons and turmeric come from India only. Persians only know copying Indian culture and texts, even Al-gebr copied Algebra from Aryabhatta only.
Ancient gurus believed in transferring knowledge directly from the teacher to the students. They believed that writing it down and students reading it later could result in incorrect or incomplete understanding of knowledge. Only elite used classical Sanskrit and only intellectuals used vedic.
What Ancient gurus believed was false ,in transferring knowledge directly from the teacher to the students was not reliable. With changing time & scientific evolution passing on knowledge verbally result in incorrect or incomplete understanding. Nobody is sure; till date of its authenticity.
Domestic as well as others Contemporary write ups not even mentioned any of Vedas pre Jaina or Buddhist Era.
@@neoananda
Writing down limited the understanding of things. It confined the knowledge or left it to an uneducated mind to form its own opinions or interpret it in what way he feels. Terrorism is a big example of this.
Anandh Krishna
You are taking, "writing" (script) for granted. When these things were compiled there was no writing nor a surface to write on, which were invented much later.
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This was quite common across the world I believe.
Historians and writers in the ancient roman syria also believed that orally communicated information was stronger than scripted information. To the point that if same info was available in these two forms, the one in oral form was given more weightage
But this is unfortunately not true
@@neoananda you are assuming a lot of things here ...
Indians are very sensitive. Some North Indians are so sensitive they're 'untouchable' (pun intended).
Thanks for the chuckle 🙂
It's not just sensitivity. It's misinformation being peddled on a massive scale to what seems to be a not so well educated populace.
Can you do a research about Tamil language and tamil-brahmi(Tamili) writing? P.S. Do search about keeladi....
In Keeladi is our just beginning only
See the Nostratic research that speaks about Tamil language
@@nomadicpolestar5538 If you can't speak or read a language properly does.t make it ugly.
@@nomadicpolestar5538 Every language is different for sure there are lot of problems when comes to vocalization but don't call it ugly.
Do you know the letter 'ழ' (zha) in Tamil which you can't even find or pronounce properly in other language? It suppose to spelled 'Thamizh' but many people simply keep saying 'Tamil'. Even in Telugu to pronounce 'zha' they use 'ழ' in the writing system.
@@nomadicpolestar5538 it's the most beautiful language to those who speak it. Sanskrit, Hindi and other north indian languages sound horredous in comparison. The other Dravidian languages contain many Sanskrit vocab, but Tamil is the least influenced by Sanskrit.
@@TharsyanJaderuby ज़्ह in hindi
Hi UsefulCharts!
Great video as always, and I'd hate to be another commenter acting as an "expert," but at 8:05-ish I noticed you made the offhand remark that the contact with Greek culture led to the movement from symbolic to human depictions of the Buddha in the Indian subcontinent. When I was taught AP Art History (about six or seven years ago) it was my understanding that that was a common theory. While the timing for the change was appropriate, archaeological evidence would seem to debunk it as the change happened seemingly simultaneously across the subcontinent, rather than radiating from the Northwest. Again, love your content--I think you are very thorough and spread a great deal of enthusiasm for history through your content--but I'm just curious if the understanding of this development in art history had reversed/where or when your research is from--thanks!
Interesting. I hadn't heard that.
What kind of stuff do you study in AP Art History?
I don't know the case specifically, but in general, in history or archaeology "seemingly simultaneously" really means there just isn't enough information to distinguish which happened first, because they don't know the date accurately enough.
Remember that a person can walk across the whole of India in less than 2 months (bringing ideas and objects with them), and radio carbon dating (for example) can have errors in the range of decades or more.
Without an inscription with the dates of each piece, it's hard to tell the difference between things that happened over several decades, and something that happened on the same day.
@Raghib Qazi The derivation of Brahmi is not even remotely as obvious as you made it out to be but yes the point about sculptural variation does have a clearer connection with the Greeks of Antiquity. After Alexander, there were many substantial Greek communities within India and strong cultural syncretism between the different groups. There were even Indo-Grecian Kingdoms for a time and it was under those conditions that the change in Indian visual art occurred. So to that end it's quite clear that there is both a correlation and likely causation going on there. The same just can't be said about Brahmi deriving from Aramaic with as much conviction. This entire video should highlight to you that even coming up with a general connection between the two systems is pretty difficult. Let alone any bona fide correlation. So really that's down to speculation and effectively the most educated guesswork we can come up with until more evidence presents itself.
@@stormveil Hey Stormveil, appreciate the response! Sorry in advance for the text blob but I should say that "seemingly simultaneously" more happens to be the wording I chose rather than a description of certainty. When this was being taught it was taught as definitive, and I should say that my teacher was no layman (I believe he worked at the National Gallery at some point, not sure). You make a good point about travel speed compared to archaeological dating timescales; but while it is true that people and ideas can travel very quickly, especially compared to standard deviation in archaeological dating, I don't think that changes much.
No disrespect, but if it was just a matter of an idea spreading then that would make sense, wouldn't that imply that Indians were kind of like "Oh shit, why didn't we think of depicting the Buddha's image with an image of the Buddha?" It's been a long time since my archaeology or Sanskrit studies (and longer still from that Art History course) but the reason why the Buddha was depicted through visual metaphors, I believe, was somewhat theological--therefore the shift to use imagery of a person (though the person is so idealized and archetypal, the sculptures are in not a few ways still a symbolic depiction) would need to be a change in religious thought, not aesthetic thought.
At least, that's how it seems to me--I am by no means an expert and there are a lot similarities which make the Greek influence case still compelling, but the archaeology doesn't really support it.
Thank you for the great video, it was very informative, as always. I see by the comments that Biblical literalists, apparently, do not have the market cornered when it comes to bloated egos and false, wildly outrageous, claims regarding their religious texts.
Thank you, again, for presenting what we know about the history of Sanskrit based on the actual facts and existing evidence.
This deserves more likes.
Beautifully explained Sir
Try addressing the similarities of Hangul and Ancient Mongol 'Phags-pa script, and you will see triggered Koreans pop up
This is really interesting. I'm Korean and haven't heard of Phags-pa script so I looked it up, and there are substantial evidences that Hangul was somewhat influenced by it. It's nice to know another interesting writing system exists.
Well with an attitude like that I honestly don't blame them.
I was gonna comment this when he mentioned Hangul.
The theory is very convincing.
I think only nationalist Koreans would be. I'm intrigued by this fact. Need to learn more about it. TIL. Also, many Koreans know that our culture and language are not entirely original.
It’s historically written that the shape of Hangul consonants was inspired by Mongol Seal Script. Mongol Seal Script is speculated to be Phagspa, but we can’t say for sure. I don’t see a reason to be triggered.
I’ve looked up Phagspa and can see the similarity, but apart from the shapes there isn’t any relation. It’s like how Cherokee is related to the Latin alphabet. Took the shapes and turned it into something else.
Wonderful job. Lot of research and hard work. Brings lot of clarity .❤️ Love to see more such videos
For the layman.
My only issue with rig veda being the first written text available of brahmi is that the grammar used in rig veda is extremely complex and that level of complexity doesn't just spring out of nowhere. All languages start out simple and there must be some brahmi text available out there where they first wrote simple sentences before jumping into something as complex as the hymns. The level of refinement in sanskrit language and especially in rig veda implies there it was probably around for quite some time. It must have definitely started off as a crude language and i'm sure people experimented with its writing for several centuries before it reached the level of complexity you get to see in rig veda. The problem is that Indians have always been bad at archiving and maintaining their old records. We have no care for it, even now. I'm sure it was even worse back then. Unlike the greeks and romans and sumerians where every child was taught to write, so anyone could scribble nonsensical stuff on the walls while being piss drunk (which has now become a gold mine for historians) Indians reserved the ability to write only to the elites. So we have very few records of anything and there was no concept of historians in India. So it's better if you leave sanskrit entirely out of your timeline or at least mention that it's all just a speculation because we have lost a LOT of books during invasions and burning of our ancient libraries and just sheer lack of interest in maintaining old stuff. You'll never accurately know when sanskrit began to develop because we rarely maintained any written records of anything. No major country has ever done such a horrible job at maintaining its own records as India has. And i'm saying this as an India. So sanskrit is a very tricky language. You'll probably never know how old it really is.
The thing is that the rig veda existed looong before being written. All the text was already there, transmitted oraly from generation to generation. As soon as a writting system was adopted you just transcribe phonetically, the language itself has NOTHING to do with the writing.
As an analogy if I learn the IPA I can learn to transcribe a folk story from any culture, let's say that i go to Iceland for example. And i start to transcribe Islandic tales. That a language with quite a deep grammar and complex folklore!! And yet, i can simply transcribe the sounds with the IPA and the text would then be written. The grammar is all preexisting I'm just making 'Sound drawings'
Here nobody is arguing about the text itself. Indian cultures did a LOOOT of memorization anyways, so they didn't have a NEED for writting initially. That's why when they adopted the system it was pretty much like it appeared out of nowhere in full force. The language was already there, but here we are just talking about writing, which is a physical thing, and one that we can study, date and compare.
And the complexity of a language has nothing to do with writing! The Indoeuropean, ancestors of most or the people in Europe and northen india had an even more complex language, and yet they never developed a writing sistem of their own and all we know about their language and culture had to be reconstructed via linguistics. So yeah, never mix those 2 things up, writing is one thing, language is another very different thing
Languages don't start out simple. PIE is already incredibly complex to understand for the average European speaker.
You're missing a small part of the puzzle here, which is that Sanskrit and its complicated grammar didn't appear out of nowhere. It had an ancestor, Proto-Indo-Iranian, from which it inherited its grammatical structures, which in turn descended from Proto-Indo-European, and PIE is like 6k years old which is enough time for a language to develop complex grammar.
Yes i'm 100% agree with U and that's why today i don't have minimum interest to hear what those so called Historians, scientist r talking about it, because whatever they r saying is their own(individually) concocted theories, hypothesis, bla bla, except have any concrete proof... again waste of time !!..
@@wonderworld7721 Wait, why did you click on the video then?
Your voice is nice, clear and easily listening ❤
We don't yet know if the Indus Valley script was a remote ancestor of later Indian scripts. There may be clues in the symbols found on later pottery further South, but this is a taboo subject for publicly-funded researchers in present-day India, because of the possibility that the Indus Valley culture was the ancestor of South rather than North Indian civilisation. Much like how Rhodesia restricted the study of Zimbabwe.
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 the westerners of today are not afraid of it. There is simply more evidences to be found owing to the fact that a great part of our history including scientific facts was not written down to be clearly understood. It will take some more years. Irrespective of whether discoveries were done by any country I think we ought to give credit to everyone that discovered these long time back and in modern times and also that we don't really need to have a heated debate on the same topic
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 I certainly agree with you man. I am more of a globalised thinker. Maybe that is the reason we are even having this conversation. The truth is most of the people won't even read all this but definitely hear it because I guess it's much easier 😅. I believe that if the westerners have to change this it's our own duty to come out and convince them with proper research and proof. I believe that this will make a huge change in the history circles around the world. As far I understand they do not hate india in anyway and many of them are sure that they haven't understood anything about the Indian civilization fully. That's the only reason I tried to reason with you. You can start a TH-cam channel yourself (or we. I still have a lot to learn about these things so..). This will be helpful for all of us. Jai hind bhai
I think I will agree. We have not put enough research into any of the histories to be exact. But as far as I know Dravidian culture did exist almost at the same time as Aryan culture which has close ties with Sanskrit than the Indus valley. I maybe wrong but we cannot make a strict outline on which is older
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 I agree that burning books and whole libraries is to be deplored. North Indians are not the only victims here: the same has happened everywhere.
Aztec, Inca and Phillipine records destroyed by Spanish priests, Syriac MSS of Kerala destroyed by Portuguese priests, wholesale slaughter of scholars and burning of books by the Yellow Emperor, similar actions by early Christians in Italy, Greece and Egypt, looting and destruction of monasteries by Protestants, Red Guards in Tibet ...
Any change of religion, and sometimes foreign invasion, may lead to this erasure of history, starting by banning the old songs and stories. We should treasure, preserve and understand what we have left: too often nobody can be bothered. E.G. the still buried library of Herculaneum, or the several centuries' worth of temple records slowly decaying in Trivandrum.
@@kuldeepgaurav1419 I agree with you on Nalanda. To just imagine the wealth of knowledge lost...But I think there is too much White bashing here. Brahmi script was deciphered by a White man (just like Egyptian Hieroglyphs) . Ajanta was discovered by White man.. I can go on listing contributions of Europeans in shedding light on our history. The real damage to our culture, civilization and heritage was caused by the people who were the rulers BEFORE Europeans came.
For your information, Iranian languages are derived from Sanskrit not Sanskrit derived from them
And south Indian languages are known as Dravidian languages and Dravidian itself is a Sanskrit word
Every time india is related with Europe and middle east by westerners, why not Europe and middle east related with india
You would research findings based on east as well as west, not only west, west always want to go over east
This is true.. Biased research.. They think everything comes from them and that they are the center of the world
@@Ss-tt9pp yes they can't accept east
I can take this thing, the date shown persia is younger than sanskrit.
These are childish comments. In Persia the language has also undergone change from time to time. Pre-Avestan, Avestan, Pahlavi, Tajik, Dari, Sasanian and finally Arbic etc have mixed and undergone many changes.
You speak about Sanskrit which has many words from Avestan Persian language which mixed with Indian Pali/Prakrit languages majorly in 7-8 century AD forming Classical Sanskrit language in 12th century AD. It could be written only after evolution of Devnagari Script. You can refer Avestan dictionary. All those words first mixed with Sanskrit then in Urdu, Prakrith, Hindi, Marathi and Gujarati.
@@GD-dx6eg you said it can be written only after evolution of devnagri script, this shows your illiteracy level and hate 🤣🤣.
Sanskrit don't have any 1 specific script unlike other languages , and oldest written document of Sanskrit as a script is 3500 year's old(carbondated Proof).
And for your information Sanskrit doesn't have a single word from any other languages, this again shows your WhatsApp University knowledge 🤣. Every Sanskrit word and structure is made from a predefined "dhatu" . It is not like other languages that you can make any word or stole a word, there is not a single word in Sanskrit without a Dhatu, this dhatu (Bij) system was adopted to maintain the purity of Sanskrit language, so that no any word of other language can be added.
You might also want to look into the variants of Brahmi used in Southern India & Sri Lanka. It's typically called Tamil Brahmi script although the language used is a very early form of Tamil which has some similarities to sanskrit being used in the Dravidian grammatical pattern. There are Brahmi inscriptions being found, especially in Sri Lanka that are from about 600-300 BCE.
There's still a lot of academic discussion on the matter & no clear consensus, but the running best guess is that sanskrit was a standardized language created around 1800- 1500 BCE period as a lingua franca across the Indian subcontinent after the end of the late Indus valley civilization around 2000-1800BC and migration of Indo-European speakers into the region followed by or coinciding with the migration of Dravidian speakers (indus valley people & possibly the Elamites from Eastern Persia) eastwards & Southwards due to the changing climate (this was around the bronze age collapse & periodic of acute climate change & reduced precipitation) & increasing migration of Indo-Europeans from the Northwest (Central Asia was also facing droughts & steppe peoples such as the Indo-Europeans migrated both westwards into Anatolia & eastwards into Persia & India)
These two groups in India at that point then more or less coalesced between 1500 to 1000 BCE into the Vedic civilization in the north Indian plains (saptasindhu region) & the Tamil civilization in South (Kaveri river basin) with the Narmada & Tapi rivers of central india acting as a de facto border area.
Then over the intervening 800 years to Alexander's time the Sanskrit developed into regional dialects & vernacular languages called Prakrits (much like Latin & the romance languages in Europe) with the Southern group following Dravidian grammer & becoming classical Tamil & the Northern groups becoming classical Sanskrit & eventually Pali (the language of Buddhism) & the other North Indian Prakrits.
The Rig Veda is generally considered to be an amalgamation of hymns which existed from much longer in the past, some probably originatingwith the Indus valley civilization - typically the ones praising Shiva & Vishnu as well as those about the Saraswati river (which dried up before 2300BCE based on geological evidence); while others probably coming from the Aryans - typically those praising Agni & Indra the stereotypical Indo-European Gods as well is those describing prayer rituals around fire pits; with some being composed later around the migration period such as those praising the river Ganga & Yamuna which became the sacred river following the drying of the Saraswati & migration of the Indus valley peoples into the gangetic plains.
Edit: I'm a biotechnologist/geneticist in India working with Anthropological survey of India on historical migration patterns of people in the Indian subcontinent based on mtDNA & Y chromosome haplotyping. This topic has been an area of active interest for me for a long time although my knowledge of the linguistics is limited. I really hope you make more videos about early India since a lot of Indian history is really considered as beginning post Alexander's arrival since literally records from before then are extremely scant & much of what's been understood is from archeology or religious literature (hindu & Buddhist texts) many of which were lost, altered or even deliberately destroyed in later centuries.
As you said they were deliberately altered destroyed to make sanskrit as old language and vedas as literature of India. Have you ever considered Tamil with its vast classical literature not found in any indian languages comparable only to vedas. Vedic and sanskrit scholars did all those distortions and delebrate alteration to supersede Tamil literature which is more indigenous to India and secular. Vedic texts are nothing but stolen Tamil texts after Indus valley i.e tamil civilization was overrun by aryan invasion. Tamils and their classical antiquity has been suppressed by vedic scholars till now trying hard to prove sanskrit as indigenous to India.
@@deenabandhu5526 what do smoke man?? Go on read some real books and come out of your bubble made by marxist communist to create differences between us. I do agree tamil is old and no one disagrees on that. Both sanskrit and tamil developed separately. Sanskrit is old too but i agree tamil is older. So what both are our indigenous languages. Feel proud of it rather than claiming some one has stolen something. Both sanskrit and tamil are our treasures. And there is nothing like aryan invasion. There is a 2 crore prize money to prove aryan theory. Go on if you think you can win the cash prize. Stop dividing us. I am odia which is also a classical language and has more than 1500 year old history, thus a classical language. I respect odia sanskrit and tamil all languages for having such a great history, just feel proud. No one is superior. All of us indians have same dna admixture thus no such thing as aryan invasion. Research about rakhigarhi excavation which refutes aryan theory.
@@shreyansrout9341 Thank you, finally someone who's actually knowledgeable & speaks sense. I'd recommend reading the work of Dr. Anindya Sarkar from IIT Kharagpur, I've had the pleasure of working with him. He's from the Geology dept. while I work in the Biotechnology department. His recent paper in Nature Scientific Reports show a clear progression of civilization in the Indus-saraswati region from 7500BCE to 1500BCE with the development, rise & fall of the Harappan civilization (IVC).
Like you said, the Aryan "invasion" idea was completely fabricated by the British scholars of the early 1900s because they had to come up with a framework that showed the subjugation of Indians by outsiders as the historical & right thing to do. Modern scholars almost universally accept that there was no invasions of any sort. Furthermore, there is proof that even the Dravidian languages were developed later in the 1500BCE to 800BCE period when it became classical Tamil of the Sangam period. The Indus language & the languages of the civilization in South Iran contemporary with IVC & Mesopotamia called the Elamites probably were the ancestors of the modern Dravidian languages. During 1800BCE to 1200BCE there was a large disruption to the monsoon pattern in India resulting in the desertification of most of the core IVC region as well as the general reduction in rainfall & drying up of most of Asia & Africa, from Egypt to China. This is the period, when the Saraswati river had already dried up & rains started failing that there was large-scale migration of Harappan people East & South into the gangetic plains & Kaveri-Godaveri basin regions. This also included the Elamites (pre-Iranians) because much of Iran also became arid at this period.
The so called "Aryans" were probably people of the Oxus civilization (also called the Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex or BMAC) who were contemporary to the mature IVC & had extensive trade & cultural exchange between them. Central Asia during this climate disruption became very dry with almost no rain for decades at a time, leading to destruction of the Oxus civilization, who's people knew of the fertile land in India & migrated South into the Indo-Gangetic plains, bringing their language & culture with them & mixing into the remnants of the IVC culture giving rise to Vedic India. Sanskrit was developed during these tumultuous times as a sort of Lingua franca in Northern India with more elements of the Indo-European language of the Oxus people being incorporated into it while the more unmixed Indus valley & Elamite languages survived in South India to form the Dravidian languages with classical Tamil.
Even the Hindu cultural differences in modern India show this with South Indian primarily being Shaivite & Eastern India mostly Shaktivite (Rudra & Shakti/Devi) which were mostly Indus valley derived Gods while vedic cultures were much more involved with Indra, Agni & Prithvi which are more Indo-European god's derived from the Aryans.
@@deenabandhu5526 Indus valley i.e. Tamil civilization were overrun with Aryan invasion?
Which year did you learn history, 1930? If you want more details read my other reply, but Aryan invasion was a myth. There was no invasion nor was the migration of Aryans (Oxus civilization people who migrated South into India during the bronze age collapse due to desertification of central Asia) the reason for the collapse of the Harappan civilization.
You're correct in saying that Indus civilization is the ancestor of Tamil civilization, before the migration of Aryans the Indus valley civilization & the Elam civilisation of Southern Iran were proto-dravidian speaking groups who migrated East & South into India during the same period (because the drying of Southern Iran to Saraswati valley & failure of monsoons) & gave rise to Tamil culture in the Kaveri-Godaveri basin.
I don't think you've actually read Tamil Sangam literature, given that you seem to be spouting theories used by Dravidian purist politicians & scholars from 100 years ago but Tamil (both the language & culture) formed in South India after the Indo-European peoples had already arrived in Northern India. Tamil & Sanskrit developed as sort of cousin languages over 1500BCE to 800BCE period where they mutually effected each other's development, you will find many similar word roots in both languages. Also Tamil revivalists & Dravidian politicians distorted the Tamil literature creating absurd theories like Kumari Kundam based off old Pandyan legends of lost submerged Tamil civilizations & entire continent that submerged from which Tamil originated & how it is the first & oldest language as a method to polarise the south Indian population & get votes in the 1980s during Gandhian rule eras.
The actual legends is of land that submerged off Mahabalipuram & between India & Sri Lanka which were probably derived from ancient oral legends recounting the flooding at the end of the last ice age, similar to tales of Dwarka.