Ancient India Ruled The World | William Dalrymple talks to Ash Sarkar

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  • The Silk Road has dominated the way we imagine the trading relationship between Europe and Asia to have worked in antiquity.
    In his new book, The Golden Road, William Dalrymple busts that myth. He sat down with Ash to talk about the origins of algebra, Indian gems in Anglo-Saxon Britain and why Genghis Khan was scared of India.
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  • @AnBreadanFeasa
    @AnBreadanFeasa 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +31

    Absolutely first class video and interview... love it.
    I knew much of the fragments... Hindu numerals, algebra and algorithms, Alexander the Great and the Mongols, but this stitched so many threads together.
    Thank you, Novara and Ash... and of course, William.

    • @itaz6276
      @itaz6276 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Hindu numerals? You mean Indian numerals - created by Indian Buddhists and expanded in mathematics and algebra by an Uzbekistan Muslim .. India is a mixing pot of culture and language

    • @user-g5hdk8a7
      @user-g5hdk8a7 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@itaz6276 Hindu was basically a geographical term used for Hind/India. Meaning Hindu and Indian are interchangble in historical terms. Buddhists and all living in Hind are also Al Hindi

  • @johnholmes2490
    @johnholmes2490 วันที่ผ่านมา +124

    Wonderful that Novara Media is not just a political stopping off point. The wider your menu of programmes is, the greater you will grow this site. Excellent interview!

    • @SusieGee1
      @SusieGee1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And this doesnt allow NOVA to spread falsehood and misinformation

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pure Fakery... Hindu caste forbid sea travel... Brahmins face ex communication and relegation to lower caste.... is the penalty..

    • @gregorystevens6540
      @gregorystevens6540 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      🎉🎉🎉

  • @jonathandunn9302
    @jonathandunn9302 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I love these down streams, love hearing about topics that don't always get the attention they deserve

  • @interested-q4d
    @interested-q4d วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    yes, it was William told me about the part the methodist church played in the Indian mutiny pulling down mosques and Hindu temples until it all kicked off 1857 in Cawnpore. Very educational.

  • @mabrahamlee5
    @mabrahamlee5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Excellent. I could listen to Dalrymple all day. A favourite writer of mine. Thanks, Novara.

  • @radman1136
    @radman1136 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    Well ... I bought Anarchy because of Novara, so ... I guess I'll order The Golden Road. Thx Ash, Mr. Dalrymple. Hello from Portland Oregon.

  • @pausereflect5911
    @pausereflect5911 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Would have been wonderful to SEE photos/videos of the sites and artifacts he was talking about PLEASE ❤

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think you may have to buy his book!

    • @pausereflect5911
      @pausereflect5911 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@juliewake4585 I've been through his past interviews.
      Right now, I'm more interested in CURRENT geopolitics.
      It STILL would have helped to SEE the images and even the book cover

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pausereflect5911yes indeed.

  • @alizsyed6831
    @alizsyed6831 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Well done, Novara Media, Ash!
    Keep it up.

  • @Mu3az523
    @Mu3az523 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    In sudan 🇸🇩 we have a game called amber see when the father lift his child in his shoulder I recently knew it means the king of sky in Hindi

  • @workingtoseethelight8244
    @workingtoseethelight8244 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    The Elon Musk of Alexandria? Let's have a bit more respect for Alexandria over here!

  • @maxgodwin398
    @maxgodwin398 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    What a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful interview. Extraordinarily informative!

  • @julian5883
    @julian5883 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Utterly fascinating, thank you Ash/Novara and William!

  • @gregorystevens6540
    @gregorystevens6540 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    I’ve watched this twice lol so interesting

  • @LexChaoticus
    @LexChaoticus วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    People argue about which civilization came first and not what we can learn from them.
    This adds more pieces to the puzzle for my understanding of the past, thank you!

  • @rnandkumar
    @rnandkumar 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Superbly engrossing. I wish all his books and research could be used to make documentaries.

  • @davidwright8432
    @davidwright8432 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    OK, I'm sold! I'm going to buy the book. As I do all of William Dalrymple's work. Thanks for an informative and entertaining interview. Learning that rhubarb is from India is worth the time, alone!

  • @adeshmukhb
    @adeshmukhb 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    @42.55, how is it richness when our native languages and culture/traditions are suppressed and some foreign languages are forced upon us??!! Beyond comprehension..!!

  • @MarkScott-n4f
    @MarkScott-n4f วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    What does he think of Peter Frankopan's New Silk Roads?

    • @parispeyrovian7205
      @parispeyrovian7205 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That is a great book by “a real historian “ not everyone can say bunch of lies and call themselves historians.

    • @zzzzz653
      @zzzzz653 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Peter Frankopan is a friend & acquaintance of William. William’s book is partly inspired by Peter’s book because as per William it was very Sinocentric.

    • @priyesh12tiwary51
      @priyesh12tiwary51 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      True some of them are fake like Peter​@@parispeyrovian7205

  • @wavingcat5
    @wavingcat5 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Omg the dad on Goodness Gracious Me was right!

    • @davidpaterson2309
      @davidpaterson2309 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      When the son announces that he’s becoming a Christian:
      Jesus? Worked for his father? Indian! Mother was a virgin? Indian! Fed 5000 people with 5 loaves and 3 fishes? Indian picnic!
      Some of the best lines in British comedy.

    • @wavingcat5
      @wavingcat5 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidpaterson2309 🤣😂😂 oh that is priceless. Absolute gold. This is what we need!

  • @Givingvoicedoco
    @Givingvoicedoco 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I lived in a small fishing village on Golpalpur on sea in Orissa in late 79 early 1980 .i used to watch fisherman launch large double hulled outriigers to sea with huge sails . I read later this is from where Oshaka launched his big empire of South East Asia a few hundred years BC

  • @KC-lc8dx
    @KC-lc8dx วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This was fascinating! Thank you both!❤ from Canada

  • @EyeLean5280
    @EyeLean5280 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This should be interesting.

  • @mananpareek6572
    @mananpareek6572 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I cannot express how much I admire Mr.Dalrymple for acknowledging R.C. Majumdar. He was the best and most qualified historian to have led the Indian history education after independence but unfortunately the government of India in 47 completely sidelined him and brought all the card holder communist "Historians" as education ministers and educational institute heads. Most of the things the speaker said in this interview are basically taboos in Indian academia, still controlled by far left ideology. Mr. Majumdar wrote 10 volumes of Indian History without any support from History department of Institutes, about freedom struggle, people, culture, Sepoy mutiny, tribal revolt, ancient dynasties, and Northeast Indian history in 11 volumes on Indian History. That's how extensively he researched throughout his life. It's nice to see Mr. Dalrymple mentioning him, because no academic in India does.

  • @angklungeds
    @angklungeds 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Great! Looking forward to hear from Will on Novara!

    • @intello8953
      @intello8953 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How is this comment 3 days 👀

  • @sandyanarayanswami5708
    @sandyanarayanswami5708 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    A very nice interview that I enjoyed as much as I did reading "The Golden Road"!!

  • @indibhart5731
    @indibhart5731 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Went along to hear William at Bury St Edmunds a few weeks ago. Great to see a pact house.

  • @indibhart5731
    @indibhart5731 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Went along to hear William at Bury St Edmunds a few weeks ago. Great to see a pact house.

  • @mikethomas9551
    @mikethomas9551 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    William Dalrymple is an incredible writer. It would benefit everyone in Britain to read "The Anarchy" as it makes sense of a lot of modern British history.

  • @colibri1
    @colibri1 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This is so good. You could also interview Tony Joseph on the genetic history of India, equally fascinating.

  • @ekamsat429
    @ekamsat429 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Many puerile quips aside, the host manages to put together a fascinating conversation. Looking forward to reading the book.

    • @ekulio
      @ekulio วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What an incredibly backhanded compliment

  • @vintagestuffguy1998
    @vintagestuffguy1998 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    This was a really good one - really interesting interview subject and good discussion

  • @fredrickdemello2260
    @fredrickdemello2260 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Aajaa nachle bro

    • @runescape_systemsthinking
      @runescape_systemsthinking 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nacho pran bhore nacho!! This used to come on a bengali tv show

  • @brucehazen8982
    @brucehazen8982 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Marvelous program! Stokes my fascination with India, and may get me to travel there once more ♡

  • @gevaann-voiceofgaia3715
    @gevaann-voiceofgaia3715 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so interesting. How we have been a connected world for so long xxx

  • @jero4059
    @jero4059 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great, just great.

  • @elmersbalm5219
    @elmersbalm5219 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    A friend gifted me Nine Lives. Loved it so much that I devoured the Mughal trilogy. Have to read this too.

  • @paulwhetstone0473
    @paulwhetstone0473 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thank you so much for this extended interview which unfortunately covered more than time allowed.

  • @idio-syncrasy
    @idio-syncrasy 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ash is quite simply a very impressive person.

  • @robinhazell6019
    @robinhazell6019 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Buddhism arrived in Thailand with King Asoka at Nakhorn Si Tammarat in the south. Even toady, the Thai Royal rituals are actually Hindu and NOT Buddhist.

  • @Storyraymond
    @Storyraymond 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very interesting talk! So many details I didn’t know. Thanks.🙏

  • @Thomas_basiv
    @Thomas_basiv วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    His podcast with Anita arnand is so good

    • @sararichardson737
      @sararichardson737 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Anita Anand is as a nail scratching a blackboard to listen to. Very difficult to listen to an otherwise great podcast

    • @Thomas_basiv
      @Thomas_basiv 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@sararichardson737 That's incorrect i'm afraid, she's brilliant

    • @sararichardson737
      @sararichardson737 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Thomas_basiv I didn’t say she wasn’t. Her pitch and incessant interruptions really ruin the podcast for me. If she would just rein it back a tad it would be far less irritating and more comfortable.

    • @artspooner
      @artspooner 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sararichardson737I love Anita Anand’s voice so you may be very much alone in your opinion!

  • @lyndamonchak4072
    @lyndamonchak4072 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I definitely want to get and read this book

  • @leighfoulkes7297
    @leighfoulkes7297 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Came off as really nice man, I'm going to getting my hands on this book.

    • @fuzzbang
      @fuzzbang วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ALL his books are super engaging. Start with Xanadu

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pure Fakery... Hindu caste forbid sea travel... Brahmins face ex communication and relegation to lower caste.... is the penalty..

  • @MichaelLoda
    @MichaelLoda วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Will Dalrymple is the best!

  • @adeshmukhb
    @adeshmukhb 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    All the knowledge used for denigrating Indian native Renaissance aka Indian nationalism..!! What a waste..!!

  • @VitthalGucci
    @VitthalGucci 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Finally under the Marathas! The British took over not fron the already crushed Mongol/Mugol but the Marathas!

  • @RitaRajaa
    @RitaRajaa 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ash Sarkar would be wonderful to have on the Empire podcast with William

  • @hadzana3558
    @hadzana3558 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    YES. Finally someone talks about it.

  • @onepartyroule
    @onepartyroule 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Is this from a Goodness Gracious Me sketch? (Anyone else remember the Sanjeev Baskar character?)

    • @burtyactual3272
      @burtyactual3272 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@onepartyroule superman Indian paraphrase "in what other country do know where a man can run faster than a speeding train" still funny

    • @onepartyroule
      @onepartyroule 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@burtyactual3272 Hehe, I always remember the one where he says the royal family is Indian because they all work in the family business and have arranged mariages xD

    • @selmaunsley6683
      @selmaunsley6683 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Santa clause, red suit big beard Indian

    • @wavingcat5
      @wavingcat5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Lol I commented “omg, the dad from Goodness Gracious Me was right!”

    • @wavingcat5
      @wavingcat5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Indian!

  • @illuminatusdeus3051
    @illuminatusdeus3051 25 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    India was like ancient Greece, basically divided by with common general culture and beliefs. Essentially, I feel a great deal of resemblance between ancient Greece (Athens/Sparta and whathaveyou) and India (far too many tribes to remember). Not quite nation states yet, but there is that intangible commonality found in nations. Btw, Islamic invasions in India, barring those in Sindh, have been central asian... basically, they were Turks from Kazakhstan or Turmenistan... even Afghans. Arabs had some migrants to the South of India, peacefully establishing their mosques (there is a rather old one out there).
    So, this Hindu vs Muslim thing is beyond my understanding. It's Central Asia that invaded, nothing to do with Islam (Islam = Arab). And even with Persians, they were invaded by Islam and normalized and that created this Shia-Sunni fork in Islam itself.
    And besides, I feel Hinduism is rather old, it's more comparative to Judaism or something, not Islam. Islam is one of the more younger world religions. Sikhism, I feel, best equates with Islam. Not Hinduism. They literally worship fire or use it as a medium of worship, these were times when fire may have been discovered. It's way too old, and naturally carries a lot of baggage etc.

  • @petenorton883
    @petenorton883 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great interview. Dinghy is bengali too. I have ordered the book 😀There is one point. While he talks about the trade routes from west india to Egypt. Surely the trade from east India to south east asia was contemporaneous and so just continued as normal when the western trade was interrupted so it didn't replace it. Isn't there also the question of direct India China trade, with ships from china sailing down to malaya on one monsoon and transferring their cargoes to indian ships which then carried the cargo back on the next monsoon to India and visa versa?

    • @dsbdsb6637
      @dsbdsb6637 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yep Dna evidence point to a continued interactions b/w India & South East Asia since earlier periods.
      Check - Indian genetic heritage in Southeast Asian populations

  • @mbronzeinfo7950
    @mbronzeinfo7950 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    WEST INDIES THE SILK ROAD THE SPICES ROAD

    • @elcapitaan1
      @elcapitaan1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      INDIA!

    • @mbronzeinfo7950
      @mbronzeinfo7950 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@elcapitaan1 TEA FROM CHINA DIFFERENT THINGS FROM DIFFERENT PART OF THE WORLD FAUNA FLORA MINERALS HUMANKIND

    • @mbronzeinfo7950
      @mbronzeinfo7950 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@elcapitaan1 LOVE THEM ALL

  • @totonow6955
    @totonow6955 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    6:33 Good grief Charlie Brown!

  • @carlossantos6683
    @carlossantos6683 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The Chinese may disagree with this statement..and not without a reason 😅

    • @silveriver9
      @silveriver9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      China was the epicentre of the ancient world and will reclaim that spot again in the coming years.

    • @elcapitaan1
      @elcapitaan1 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      this silk road as a concept was made popular in the 80s. thats not enough reason

    • @Kids11111
      @Kids11111 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@silveriver9 You can't even keep your birth rate in order lol

    • @silveriver9
      @silveriver9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kids11111 You say it like it is a bad thing. Your tiny population of a country in the eyes of China is seen as just another village. Fertility and ED issues?

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Complete Fakery... Hindu caste forbid sea travel... ex communication and relegation to lower caste is the penalty..

  • @priyamastibhati
    @priyamastibhati 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Good podcast. Did not appreciate Dalrymple’s negative tone of Indian “Nationalists” as if they are some sort of roadblocks on progress. While he indicted Brit colonials, and Marxist historians, he underplayed the deep damage done by the outside elements that came in solely for profits and did not give enough credit to the local culture and knowledge base. On the contrary, he makes them a modern day villain. Expected of a foreigner-to-the-culture. Ash Sarkar did good job overall in the interview.

    • @BBeeblebrox
      @BBeeblebrox 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Like everyone they're brainwashed by BBC and CNN's negative portrayal of the current government. Mr. Dalrymple history wasn't suppressed just post independence, it continues to be suppressed today. Pls have a chat with Dr.Meenakshi Jain and Dr. Vikram Sampath if you want to know the real history which were deliberately left undiscovered.

    • @ComradeRedRoo
      @ComradeRedRoo 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Hindutva nationalists. He’s not talking about progressive nationalists.

  • @bazs7669
    @bazs7669 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fascinating discussion!

  • @utubetruthteller
    @utubetruthteller ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    what before that was even more impressive, basically most of the world was run by Indian philosophy and business

  • @anilbiz8921
    @anilbiz8921 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    --
    Besides the languages descended from Vedic, there are many languages in the world which are not Vedic in origin but which contain a great number of Vedic Sanskrit words. In some cases the number is greater than that of some Vedic descendants. For example, among the Dravidian languages (drámil → drávil → dráviŕ → támil), the proportion of Sanskrit words in Malayalam is greater than that of the pure Vedic language Kashmiri. There is also a great abundance of Sanskrit words in Telugu and Kannad. In both the Thai and Indonesian languages, there is such an abundance of Sanskrit words that it exceeds that of Pashtu,(1) a direct descendant. Those languages which are not descendants of Vedic or Sanskrit, but which contain a great abundance of Sanskrit or Vedic words, we can call snigdha tadbhava [adopted descendants]. Each member of the Malay group of languages of southeast Asia (Malay, Sumatran, Balian, Javan, Tagalog, etc.) is an “adopted descendant”. The amount of adopted descent among the Indo-Burman languages is not equal in each case; the greatest affinity to Vedic among these languages is found in the Thai language (Siamese). There is no other language existing outside of India that has such a large Vedic and Sanskrit vocabulary.
    Although there is some small Chinese influence in the pronunciation of the Siamese language and dialects, the influence of the Gaod́iiya (Bengali) style of Sanskrit pronunciation is significantly greater. The reason for this is most likely because a prince of Rarh, Sahasrabahu, founded his kingdom there in ancient times. After conquering parts of Thailand and Malaysia, he annexed them into his own kingdom and named his capital Singhapur (Singapore) after the capital of Rarh.(2) Since the country was always shyámala [green] he named it Shyámadesh. In recent times the name of Shyámadesh has been changed, of course, but the word shyáma(3) is still quite current in the peopleʼs daily life there.
    Anyhow, Sahasrabahuʼs conquest of Siam took place approximately two thousand years ago. While staying in Thailand this fact especially attracted this writerʼs ear. Many words that were used in the Bengali of that time (Eastern Demi-Mágadhii) still survive today in their original form in the Thai language. As a final word I will add that without the proper cultivation of the Sanskrit language, it is impossible, not only in the field of the science of language, but also in the world of psychic expression, to be considered a true scholar or learned person. The cultivation and teaching of Sanskrit is indispensable in the world of education. And although it is a little off the subject, it is good to mention here that as far as race or community or nation goes, while the Bengalees are Austrico-Mongolo-Negroid with little Aryan influence, the Bengali language is of pure Sanskrit lineage.
    Footnotes
    [1] We get the word pashtu from the Vedic word páshcáttya which means “native of the west”: pashcát + tyauṋ. It must have two “taʼs” plus y added to the consonants.
    [2] Singur in present-day Hoogly District.
    [3] Siam is the English corruption of shyám. -Trans.
    Shrii P R Sarkar
    Source: Eka to Ekáuṋga (Discourse 12)
    Published in: Shabda Cayaniká Part 2

  • @anilbiz8921
    @anilbiz8921 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Mystic and Historian Shri P R Sarkar commentary :
    Anyhow, last week I was talking about the names of places. The giving of Sanskrit names is not only confined to India; in many countries outside India the giving of names shows the influence of Sanskrit. At one time the Sanskrit language was used throughout the vast region extending from southern Russia all the way to Suvarńadviipa. The southern region of Russia - what is today Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Tajikistan - used to be called Shákadviipa. And the combined name of India and Afghanistan at that time was Jambudviipa, You must have heard the mantra jambudviipe bháratakhańd́e. Of course at that time Afghanistan was part of India. The name for Burma and all of southeast Asia was Suvarńadviipa. Sanskrit is still used to speak with the king of Thailand, however it is pronounced differently. For example, in Thailand ja is pronounced like d́a and ńa is pronounced like d́ha, and ya and ya [with dot] are both pronounced like ya [ja]. The name of the kingdom of Kamboja is pronounced nowadays Kambod́iyá by the people. At that time the kingdom of Kamboja was much larger than the present-day Cambodia. At one time there was a huge Shiva temple there called Ounkárabhat́t́a. Its modern name is Ounkár Bhát́. Now the temple has been practically ruined.
    Although there is some small Chinese influence in the pronunciation of the Siamese language and dialects, the influence of the Gaod́iiya (Bengali) style of Sanskrit pronunciation is significantly greater. The reason for this is most likely because a prince of Rarh, Sahasrabahu, founded his kingdom there in ancient times. After conquering parts of Thailand and Malaysia, he annexed them into his own kingdom and named his capital Singhapur (Singapore) after the capital of Rarh.(2) Since the country was always shyámala [green] he named it Shyámadesh. In recent times the name of Shyámadesh has been changed, of course, but the word shyáma(3) is still quite current in the peopleʼs daily life there.
    Anyhow, Sahasrabahuʼs conquest of Siam took place approximately two thousand years ago. While staying in Thailand this fact especially attracted this writerʼs ear. Many words that were used in the Bengali of that time (Eastern Demi-Mágadhii) still survive today in their original form in the Thai language. As a final word I will add that without the proper cultivation of the Sanskrit language, it is impossible, not only in the field of the science of language, but also in the world of psychic expression, to be considered a true scholar or learned person. The cultivation and teaching of Sanskrit is indispensable in the world of education. And although it is a little off the subject, it is good to mention here that as far as race or community or nation goes, while the Bengalees are Austrico-Mongolo-Negroid with little Aryan influence, the Bengali language is of pure Sanskrit lineage.
    Source: Proper Names - 2 (Discourse 17)
    Published in: Varńa Vijiṋána

  • @BartAnderson_writer
    @BartAnderson_writer 56 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating, stimulating ... Thank you, Novara,!

  • @thedarkknightReturns
    @thedarkknightReturns วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    happy to see you safe

  • @rice4550
    @rice4550 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    India is always so underrepresented in these type of discussions I'm glad this conversation is happening especially without the lunacy of Indian nationalists wet dream of Akhand Bharat

    • @dsbdsb6637
      @dsbdsb6637 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      It is a cultural expression not a political one if you get the drift.

    • @dreamsdesires
      @dreamsdesires 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You an Indian?

    • @dsbdsb6637
      @dsbdsb6637 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@dreamsdesires Yep & i am from India.

    • @dreamsdesires
      @dreamsdesires ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@dsbdsb6637 no was asking about @rice4550..roaming around calling people lunatic .

  • @Justlib543
    @Justlib543 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great insight

  • @Shaggy-839two
    @Shaggy-839two วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    India also trying to eradicate mughal history and follow british jail without trial laws.

    • @kerryf9399
      @kerryf9399 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yes as if it never happened and negating all the positive contributions of that era.

    • @KhattaMeethaOficial
      @KhattaMeethaOficial วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Descendents of Mughal era Are not so much of Patriots , shows 1947 , They lost their credibility there ,what do you expect ,another Breakage by Apeasing these freeloaders ,Comgress Tried 70 years ,,,,

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fakery... Hindu caste forbid sea travel... ex communication and relegation to lower caste is the penalty..

    • @elgonm289
      @elgonm289 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Whole Mughals were trying to eradicate the Vedic Religion, Culture and replacing it a foreign Religion, about time history of Subcontinent came to the fore, you must a Pakistani Muslim

    • @jimjiminy5836
      @jimjiminy5836 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Neglecting the up keep of the Taj Mahal.

  • @savvyn37
    @savvyn37 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Medieval period is screwed by this guy. He is immune to current England situation.

  • @outcastoffoolgara
    @outcastoffoolgara 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Superb interview and Ash presents a brilliant effort to enrich the process of enabling William to deliver his knowledge.

  • @MyKarur
    @MyKarur 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant job Ash. William is a true intellectual with so much depth that India owes him big time for this in-depth focus on India again

  • @utubetruthteller
    @utubetruthteller ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Christianity and Islam suppressed Indian history for so long

  • @TheGoldenflower58
    @TheGoldenflower58 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Such an in depth interview. Interesting questions asked and the answers were completely absorbing.

  • @paulred158
    @paulred158 7 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Willie from Empire. Nice to put a face to the voice.

  • @utopianguy
    @utopianguy วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I don't think Rhubarb is originally from India. There is not even a name for Rhubarb in Indian languages. Rhubarb was most likely cultivated in China first and was potentially one of the most expensive commodity traded at one time and may be Indian traders jumped in on the trade

    • @elcapitaan1
      @elcapitaan1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@utopianguy you can have rhubarb

    • @zzzzz653
      @zzzzz653 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      There are 3 species of Rhubarb that grow in the Indian Himalayas. Moreover, it was known in Ayurveda for its medicinal properties.

    • @utopianguy
      @utopianguy วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@zzzzz653 I did find few rhubarb species growing in Himalayas, mostly in wild. Apparently, it is called revand-chini in Hindi and similar names in other languages. My wife is from Utarakhand but never heard them using Rhubarb in their cooking although my exposure to Uttarakhand culture is relatively limited.
      I see few farms that grow Rhubarbs in India but they seem more like for a niche market. I don't see any large scale farming happening in India. Pretty sure an average Indian not living in Himalayas would not be familiar with Rhubarb.
      Given all this it makes me partly skeptical about the claim that Rhubarbs were first discovered in India

    • @zzzzz653
      @zzzzz653 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@utopianguy rhubarb was never used as food in the past but as a medicine. It is only in the recent past that the Europeans have started eating it as food. That is likely the reason the Indians, even in the Himalayas, don’t use it that much. Furthermore, it is sometimes the case that you do not use a particular substance yourself but you trade it for profit because the other person has a big demand for it. Do they use the rhubarb as medicine in Uttarakhand ?

    • @priyesh12tiwary51
      @priyesh12tiwary51 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@utopianguyIndia consume so much tomato doesn't mean it originated here, basing your theory on consumption is naive

  • @TheTwara
    @TheTwara 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Can we call them Pseudo Hindu Ideologues and not revere them as nationalists.

  • @bumbabums-
    @bumbabums- วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No Genghis Khan was not scared of India. He conquered Arabian and Persian areas. He was busy in the middle east. Dude was brutal in technique too

    • @r.b6170
      @r.b6170 วันที่ผ่านมา

      His descendants tried to conquer India; raided, apparently found the heat intolerably and left.

    • @nobilismaximus
      @nobilismaximus วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, he was scared of heights

    • @aqeeldean686
      @aqeeldean686 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@r.b6170yh tell that to Timur and Babur.

    • @biggpicture2930
      @biggpicture2930 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Mughal were the mongol with islamic faith

    • @r.b6170
      @r.b6170 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@biggpicture2930 the type that you're talking of, came to India a few hundred years later; and they preferred to be called " chaghatais", Mughul, for them was apparently a derogatory word.

  • @sdbaral7721
    @sdbaral7721 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Look at the name Ash...bengali sarkar...now a champion?

  • @user-xd9nx9gr5k
    @user-xd9nx9gr5k 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Seemed to be to so interesting but William's constant desk thumping made it unlistenable. Shame

  • @razraza3183
    @razraza3183 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    India was the richest country for most of human history.
    Islamic and British invaders destroyed India.

    • @philosopher8052
      @philosopher8052 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I guess you weren’t listening. India was many kingdoms. The host said 70 according to a Chinese monks.
      You just want to hate

    • @razraza3183
      @razraza3183 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@philosopher8052
      India as a cultural and civilizational whole.
      Barbarians destroyed India.

    • @warship000
      @warship000 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​​"Indians" had also collaborated with the Mughals and the Brits to allow the exploitation..​@@razraza3183

    • @pakiman47
      @pakiman47 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      India reached its pak because of the Muslims

  • @strathyreinn8124
    @strathyreinn8124 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have been listening to Empire on Spotify…presumed the presenters were both 2 decades older!😂

  • @youkeepwalking
    @youkeepwalking วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Learned...plus a kind and decent human being.
    Thank you.

  • @osmanjaro
    @osmanjaro 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Having billy dee as the foremost authority on indian, as an indian... innit.

  • @brian5001
    @brian5001 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is this why it is the rapiest and dirtiest place? I agree, I also think this is why it has the best false coping mechanisms (religion).

  • @MartianInDisguise
    @MartianInDisguise 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What’s really intriguing is the idea that Jesus May have visited India and gotten some of his ideas there

  • @OpenRecords
    @OpenRecords 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic interview, fantastic subject. More like this please!

  • @kateg1137
    @kateg1137 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Just wanna say that gooseberrys also originate from india!

  • @TAinWufu
    @TAinWufu วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think rhubarb is from China actually

    • @priyamastibhati
      @priyamastibhati 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Grows in the entire Himalayan foothills. Likely also in the Chinese Mtn foothills. So it could be native to both; hard to tell.

  • @mikolajdubiel1384
    @mikolajdubiel1384 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is fantastic, I had no idea about half of this stuff and I have a BA in History

  • @Badlighter
    @Badlighter 48 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    A knighthood for this man.

  • @hanahngoh
    @hanahngoh 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why couldnt he answer the last question ❓

  • @LoganJeya
    @LoganJeya 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Incredible conversation Ash!

  • @thegoodthebadthe4skins612
    @thegoodthebadthe4skins612 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Needs more hand gestures 😂

  • @richardallan2767
    @richardallan2767 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Just been to India. However magnificent it clearly was, it is currently a horrific culture. Holding on to the brutality of the caste system, profound sexism, racism, not just to foriegners but to themselves (on the basis of caste, religion and skin tone, both ends of the melanin spectrum) . They have taken the middle class judgementalism and bureaucracy of the British empire and the mindless grindset of hypercapitalism and really run with them.

    • @elcapitaan1
      @elcapitaan1 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@richardallan2767 maybe it was just towards you Richard

    • @longcours
      @longcours 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      You might have a point here, BUT most Indians of all walks of life I've seen were very polite, gentle, highly-educated people, and interacting with them was almost always a pleasure. Between them many tensions always seem to exist, which to me, being rather coming, as a European, from Northeast Asia (decades in Japan, Korea, China), has the added charm of seeing strong and assertive individuals...

    • @snathan3198
      @snathan3198 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Some friends recently visited London, they thought parts of it looked and felt like Pakistan!

    • @dominokid7996
      @dominokid7996 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ok Mustafa, Mohammed

    • @yashmishra17
      @yashmishra17 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      don't comeback ever again !

  • @alteredstate07
    @alteredstate07 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought we were all African?

  • @dicky-duck6632
    @dicky-duck6632 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Something unusual is happening; there have been many claims like this about India recently on TH-cam, both about the past and the future

    • @zzzzz653
      @zzzzz653 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Simply because there are more Indians now on the Internet and many of them like to talk about their ancient past. What is so unusual about it ?

  • @anilbiz8921
    @anilbiz8921 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sanskrit does not have its own script. In the first half of the Vedic era, Sanskrit literature was composed without script. The invention of script was in the latter half of the Vedic era, but despite the lack of script in the first half of the Vedic era, alphabetic classification existed, and thus when script was invented it was also arranged according to the existing practice of alphabetic classification.
    The Sanskrit language was first written in the Bráhmii and Kharośt́ii scripts, which were approximately seven thousand years old. Both these scripts were arranged according to Sanskrit phonetics. In subsequent times, the scripts that arose chiefly from Bráhmii, and secondarily from Kharośt́ii, that is, Indiaʼs original Sáradá script (the original mother of todayʼs Kashmiirii, D́ogrii and Punjabi Sáradá scripts), Nárada (the mother of todayʼs Gujarati, Nágrii, Devanágrii, Moŕii, Curuválii, etc. scripts) and Kut́iilá (Bengali) script, are arranged according to those phonetic rules.
    Sanskrit does not have its own script. Wherever it was written or studied or taught, it used to use whatever script was prevalent in that country at that time. Keeping practicality in mind, if Sanskrit is written nowadays in Roman script, its phonetic practice should be according to its own alphabetic system, that is, the letters should be arranged ka, kha, ga, gha, una… in this way.
    Nowadays several languages descended from Sanskrit are written in Arabic script (Farsi script) for various historical reasons. Those languages are: Sindhii, which is descended from Saendhavii Prákrta (the name of its original script is Láhándei), the Páshcáttya Prákrta-descendant Kashmiirii (the name of its original script is Sáradá - Kashmirʼs Sanskrit books and birth records are still written in this script), Peshawar (Puruśapur) and Afghanistanʼs (Gándhár) language (this language is also descended from Páshcáttya Prákrta - páshcáttya → pashto. Its original script is also Sáradá), Farsi (its original script also came from Bráhmii). In addition to these, there are the Sanskrit adopted-descendants, Baluchi (it is Baluchistanʼs original language belonging to the Dravidian branch), and Bráhoi (it is also a language of the west bank of the Sindhu river-basin. It is also of Dravidian origin as well as being an adopted descendant of Sanskrit). The other important language of this group is Malay (it is the original language of Malaysia and Singapore. It is included within the Malay family of languages and its original script is Kut́iilá (Bengali)). Although Malay is written nowadays in Arabic script for historical reasons, this Sanskrit adopted-descendant has no relation to the Arabic branch of languages. Still, it contains many Arabic words.
    All those Sanskrit-descended languages and Sanskrit adopted-descendants which use ka as their first consonant may encounter difficulties at every step in the construction of grammatical aphorisms and the composition of phonetic rules. The śa rule, ńa rule, and system of conjuncts are all unscientifically and disorderly formulated. In many cases, there being no possible formula to apply, it is said: “thatʼs the way itʼs been done”. I say, even if Roman script is used for convenience in the world of grammar, its alphabetic system must be arranged according to Sanskrit rules. Otherwise it will have to suffer the results of its own errors. Thus ka is the first consonant of the alphabet of Sanskrit-descended languages and adopted-descendants.
    -Shrii P R Sarkar
    Source: Ka to Kandara (Discourse 16)
    Published in: Shabda Cayaniká Part 3

  • @adeshmukhb
    @adeshmukhb 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    In the whole discussion, I get a feeling somehow that William has an axe to grind against the Indian nationalists..!! Every few minutes, he keeps denigrating Indian nationalists for some reason...!!

    • @kdot78
      @kdot78 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      hmmm 🤔 I wonder why

  • @suraj1311
    @suraj1311 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nice

  • @chrisryan9191
    @chrisryan9191 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No it didn't lol

  • @apflewis
    @apflewis วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What an excellent informative enjoyable interview. Thank you.

  • @ludwig327
    @ludwig327 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No it isn't you silly silly man

  • @duncanmclean6416
    @duncanmclean6416 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enjoyed that. Very good

  • @lordjustice6994
    @lordjustice6994 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating