A Rosetta Stone for the Indus script - Rajesh Rao

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  • View full lesson: ed.ted.com/lessons/a-rosetta-s...
    Rajesh Rao is fascinated by "the mother of all crossword puzzles" - how to decipher the 4000 year old Indus script. At TED 2011, he tells how he is enlisting modern computational techniques to read the Indus language, the key piece to understanding this ancient civilization.
    Talk by Rajesh Rao.

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  • @RSivaSanjayChannel
    @RSivaSanjayChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I want to hear the news
    *"FINALLY THE LEGENDARY INDUS SCRIPT DECIPHERED!!!"*
    BEfore i meet my death

    • @ragunandhanvenkatesh1281
      @ragunandhanvenkatesh1281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here it is: It Belongs to Tamils. I watched a youtube channel sangatamizhanTV a tamil channel but showing every proofs. Archaeological sites in Tamil nadu search the web well. You would get the answer

    • @RSivaSanjayChannel
      @RSivaSanjayChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ragunandhanvenkatesh1281 sorry i didn't find the video
      And one thing better u call it Dravidian, which is the precursor of the south indian languages, and existed before the birth of all these languages
      Tamil might have retained many of the proto Dravidian vocabulary, but that doesn't make it the mother of these languages.

    • @ragunandhanvenkatesh1281
      @ragunandhanvenkatesh1281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RSivaSanjayChannel Not even Dravidian. It's Proto-Dravidian. Dravidian is now the entire south India constituting four states. But Proto-Dravidian is the Ancient time referring Tamil and it was the language spoken by Nagas of entire India when no other present indian languages did not took birth. Infact Dravidian is Sankrit name including Aryavarta (North of India) and Dravidia (South of India). It just mentions the place not language family.

    • @pranabmallick01
      @pranabmallick01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ragunandhanvenkatesh1281 It belongs to humans

    • @ragunandhanvenkatesh1281
      @ragunandhanvenkatesh1281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pranabmallick01 haha I hope it should be Sanskrit or Hindi and we have to look at the North Indians now

  • @anselmdanker9519
    @anselmdanker9519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, looking forward to successful deciphering of the indus script !

  • @avirajsinghmehta1857
    @avirajsinghmehta1857 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    can we not translate from Mesopotamian script if they were trading so someone may had written down something

    • @zenengineer9277
      @zenengineer9277 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      gu-ab-ba-ki e-duru me-luh-ha = Guabba, village of Meluhha, was recorded as somewhere in Lagash city-state's (of current southern Iraq) realm, circa 2000 BCE. Meluhha was Sumerian for the civilization discussed in this Ted Talk. It was a trade/ex-pat colony listed with 4600 textile workers, bronze working and Lagash royal granaries, among other things. Hasn't been found yet. Likeliest spot for a dual language artifact. Look up "Shuilishu cylinder seal" from the de Clercq collection of the Louvre and you'll find more.

    • @sachindaftari
      @sachindaftari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indus Rosetta will be in Iran.......

  • @MrOnlineRoaster9
    @MrOnlineRoaster9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you make a stamp with this seal, the name that gets imprinted in reverse, which means the language should be read from left to right after imprinting.

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger1342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great overview on the Indus script (aka Harappan script). Amazing what one can logically deduce. By the way, the Indus script has some similarities to the Rango Rango script, also undeciphered . Rango Rango is believed to have originated in a more primordial form in South Asia.

    • @southernwind2737
      @southernwind2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/45KBDozIhII/w-d-xo.html

    • @gooddayok
      @gooddayok ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is now called Saraswati Civilization

  • @nostradamus2625
    @nostradamus2625 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Egyptian hieroglyphics, Chinese characters and the Indus pictograms seem to be similar since they are mostly contemporary. The pictures are remarkably detailed …ox cow etc..so there must be some meaning.
    Most people are right handed so writing on clay tablets using impressions means we will have a laterally inverted image. So their writing may be left to right but since it is transferred to clay, it might appear as right to left.

  • @rohankumarpanigrahi7475
    @rohankumarpanigrahi7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Here's my one cent :
    Its possible that the direction of writing was left to right only but since it's a seal it will be stamped on something and in doing so the impression created would be from left to right and be read as that as well

    • @sreeharshayarlagadda3083
      @sreeharshayarlagadda3083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      even i am of the same opinion

    • @suryan6668
      @suryan6668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its right to left.
      th-cam.com/video/XHU9DV1xi2o/w-d-xo.html

    • @rohankumarpanigrahi7475
      @rohankumarpanigrahi7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@suryan6668 let's assume you are to make a seal for English language on clay you would right right to left on the seal instead of writing cat you would write tac with letters inverted laterally in doing so you would write t in the ending on the seal and threby a cramping of the letters there in the right end.Giving the impression to the person observing the seal that you wrote right to left .But since the original intent was to create a seal which will be laterally inverted on being stamped the original final text and language would be written left to right.

    • @ragesh29
      @ragesh29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically.. we have a problem in accepting a right to left script 🤪🤪

    • @theisheep2676
      @theisheep2676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very clever, I didn't realise that !

  • @lihggttghj9936
    @lihggttghj9936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    maybe the jar thing on the end of most sentences is like a full stop ( or period) to mark the end of a sentence so when there were two its kind of like ellipses if you get what I mean ( ellipses is ...)

    • @user-ly6wx2bu6t
      @user-ly6wx2bu6t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a really interesting idea but I think they could be expressions too

    • @JadeEdittz
      @JadeEdittz ปีที่แล้ว

      I also think it's a full stop

  • @sagunshrestha2558
    @sagunshrestha2558 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Since it was used for stamp the writing suppose to be opposite.. Left to Right..isn't it?

    • @rajatuploader
      @rajatuploader 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's what I was also thinking..

    • @zenengineer9277
      @zenengineer9277 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When looking at a "seal" it is a "negative" (has cavities). When looking at its clay "seal impression" it is a "positive" (has protrusions). You always read the "positive" - be it NW Indian, Middle Eastern, east Mediterranean or Egyptian. It's more obvious when you see a rotary or cylinder seal. Chinese red-ink stamp "positive" zhusha seals are an exception since they print to a smooth surface, but you still read the end result, not the seal itself.

    • @bunga_raya96
      @bunga_raya96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What if the cramped text was the next line of the sentence? As in if the line starts from the left ends to the right and begins on the left again.

    • @dogemcmosin9587
      @dogemcmosin9587 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same its mirrored from how it would have been read or appeared.

    • @filmwale5188
      @filmwale5188 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe they are not stamps

  • @bluepebbles7885
    @bluepebbles7885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work mate. Me myself south indian.

  • @ramakrishnansubbiyan1764
    @ramakrishnansubbiyan1764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strong💪 man Mr. Rao..

  • @knightcrooked
    @knightcrooked 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yajna Devam’s methods seems promising and scientific. As per his decryption algorithm’s results Brahmi seems to be just a standardization of Indus Script itself.

  • @sanjayroy219
    @sanjayroy219 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Recently I watched a video in you tube in which seals are deciphered in gondi language. It is a tribal language. They are explaining the symbols still used by them

  • @Theghoulette
    @Theghoulette 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they did have rulers and an organised religion, but instead of building monuments or using gold, I think they decorated with plants and flowers. Along with keeping their streets and homes clean, and bathing being a huge part of their civilisation, I think they showed their wealth by how immaculate and beautiful their cities and ports were. I feel the IVC was far more advanced than any other culture at the time, and still even more advanced than some places today.

  • @godbless5150
    @godbless5150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Tamil Nadu Keezhadi excavation site symbols has similarities with indus valley civilization symbols

    • @southernwind2737
      @southernwind2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch this link too th-cam.com/video/45KBDozIhII/w-d-xo.html

    • @N_ei_L
      @N_ei_L ปีที่แล้ว

      Woah really???

    • @Bhuvanfire
      @Bhuvanfire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@N_ei_Lyes it is

  • @jakobeckert
    @jakobeckert 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would also like to find out!!!

  • @dsen4923
    @dsen4923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right to left in stamp/seal, when done the impression its left to right, did anyone considered that?!!

  • @abdulghani2110
    @abdulghani2110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Other lectures pl.

  • @Factsworld_001
    @Factsworld_001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    pali and Dravidians can be the key

  • @chetangupta4484
    @chetangupta4484 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    please see another interesting video on INDUS SEAL by Dr Puneet Gupta on You Tube for further insight.

  • @vellayanv4672
    @vellayanv4672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fish sign is the letter which sounds 'La' or simple 'L'. So it is not 'Elumeen' but 'EliL' and the other one not 'Arumeen' but 'AruL', which are common tamil names.

  • @liamredmill9134
    @liamredmill9134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Without a Rossett stone,You need to know two things.1every craft ,and products domestic and traded,2- proto art/symbols-petragliphs that formed these much later formulations 10-20k before,found throughout the trading world

  • @demaskatorr
    @demaskatorr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ciekawe, ciekawe ...

  • @chethan93
    @chethan93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It has been completely deciphered here - th-cam.com/video/ncDRDSKl8uk/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SangamTalks
    IVC script is a pre-cursor of Brahmi script and all the inscriptions so far available in IVC are written in Sanskrit language!
    A tight slap on the faces of people trying to prove IVC script to be ancient Tamil with political motivations in mind.
    To people saying that Keezhadi excavations also contain things matching IVC script, it just shows that the whole of Indian subcontinent has a shared common culture and history for more than 5000 years.

    • @romerising5865
      @romerising5865 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been seeing you spamming this in all of the videos regarding indus script. That discussion is one side of the coin and the world would like to see a peer reviewed paper. I also could show videos that says the indus script is old Tamil and all the grafiti found on IVC are found only in Tamil areas outside of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

  • @chiragshah7911
    @chiragshah7911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since he said that these seals were probably used to as stamps... A fish with seven lines could also mean that the piece of luggage had 7 fishes in it.

  • @Sumerian_Tamil
    @Sumerian_Tamil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have read Dolavira wall sign to both give the name of the place Dolavira and message to travellers..that accomodation, water, food, protection to people and goods are provided..the place name in Tamil to mean same is thOL veerar, that is soldiers who would carry your goods to safety..this is the place, where you get them.. but, I have read that as what Parpola recommends to just try to read of people of Dravidian languages speakers, particularly Tamil. Using M C Kangali's input that wall sign can be taken as the fort of Irungol or Kondala Desam.. If we could seperate the signs with respect to time place, we might get better picture...

  • @malanders7305
    @malanders7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about the Munda languages?

    • @southernwind2737
      @southernwind2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch this link too th-cam.com/video/45KBDozIhII/w-d-xo.html

    • @DeependraSingh11
      @DeependraSingh11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Austro Asiatic! Came from east not west!

  • @darrelhenley-mc9dw
    @darrelhenley-mc9dw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the source of the rongo script

  • @ritswik
    @ritswik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He casually f bombed the audience 😆

  • @morekozhambu
    @morekozhambu ปีที่แล้ว

    Deciphering the Indus Script as a Cryptogram - th-cam.com/video/ncDRDSKl8uk/w-d-xo.html

  • @Dummyerer
    @Dummyerer 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those microphones take up too much noise I don't want to hear.

  • @jaymishra722
    @jaymishra722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not a script ... I think such advanced civilization might be using some sort of values like on coin for trade purpose.

  • @tronalddump2267
    @tronalddump2267 ปีที่แล้ว

    here is the updated version
    th-cam.com/video/iF_nJ4vfG-A/w-d-xo.html

  • @igyw
    @igyw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great info. you can tell he was very nervous because he can't deliver his punchlines 😩😂

  • @suryan6668
    @suryan6668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    th-cam.com/video/jfGCqaOLuCI/w-d-xo.html
    Prof poornachandra jeeva deciphering indus valley script.

  • @vajjichandrapavan5821
    @vajjichandrapavan5821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    who are here from IIST for Visual communication exam.

  • @yajnadevam
    @yajnadevam ปีที่แล้ว

    Script has been deciphered th-cam.com/video/ncDRDSKl8uk/w-d-xo.html

  • @Shoutlikeatwebpunktd
    @Shoutlikeatwebpunktd 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's the Roman alphabet not the English ...

  • @user-uv8tc3yu7y
    @user-uv8tc3yu7y 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Do you Mr Rajesh that the Indus Script is deciphered.It is the Tamil language of ancient India.

    • @southernwind2737
      @southernwind2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @mastermind918
    @mastermind918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    before 500 years malayslis were tamils cherans , before 1500 years kannadigas were tamil karunaadu , 2000 years back telugus were tamils first generation cholas and pallavas , 10000 years back everybody in Afghanistan to Indonesia were tamils , 30000 years every tribe groups around world were tamils .... the name tamil may derived so later only bcos if everyone speaks the same language and same ethnic group there is no any need to us to name our ethnicity and language. pls make search about this you will come to know about the truth.

    • @southernwind2737
      @southernwind2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @pranabmallick01
      @pranabmallick01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Uhhhh......!But the Indus Valley Culture is not like Tamil Culture

    • @southernwind2737
      @southernwind2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @Pranab Mallick
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    • @mastermind918
      @mastermind918 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pranabmallick01 if you have knowledge without any ego you will agree it's the civilization of tamil every archaeologist know this

  • @safwan3659
    @safwan3659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    milsten

  • @ModiTohGayo
    @ModiTohGayo ปีที่แล้ว

    Indus Valley script is Deciphered by GONDI tribal language of India.

  • @ramakrishnansubbiyan1764
    @ramakrishnansubbiyan1764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Data code intelligent language👄💬👄💬 only
    One language Tamil♂️ another option English♀️❤❤

  • @mohansatpute5948
    @mohansatpute5948 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meen is a Sanskrit word.

  • @sujayraomandavilli4732
    @sujayraomandavilli4732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is enough direct and indirect evidence that it was logo-syllabic. Read my papers

  • @Abc-nb9yt
    @Abc-nb9yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hindu walleycivilisation script on this soap stone stablets are only very short sentences like 5 or 10 letters that is impossible express stories, only very simple thinks. Instead the cunieform character of Babylon they was able to tell a king love story fior exemple

  • @abdullah.a.nahyan
    @abdullah.a.nahyan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deciphering the Indus Script is the worst nightmare of modern-day Hindutva revisionists who proclaim that Sanskrit is the aboriginal language of the Indian Subcontinent!

  • @Sajidsh3r
    @Sajidsh3r 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why is that man in such a hurry. Slow down man. Breath and relax.

    • @SSchithFoo
      @SSchithFoo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Too fast for you?

  • @ramakrishnansubbiyan1764
    @ramakrishnansubbiyan1764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    Why logical magical🎩🔮🎩 language👄💬👄💬
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  • @pasug
    @pasug หลายเดือนก่อน

    99.9% indus valley civilisation script is Dravidian language.

  • @udayabhanupanickar
    @udayabhanupanickar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Some research has established that there was no Aryan Invasion or immigration, all are descendents of Dravidian.

    • @Hassan-uh1so
      @Hassan-uh1so 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Udayabhanu Panickar i find this really hard to believe

    • @southernwind2737
      @southernwind2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @southernwind2737
      @southernwind2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      More evidence watch this link tps://th-cam.com/video/ToojNq01M6M/w-d-xo.html

    • @theamazinghippopotomonstro9942
      @theamazinghippopotomonstro9942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Source? Because most people who believe that are just Indian nationalists trying to rewrite history

    • @ragesh29
      @ragesh29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes.. whatsapp university research..

  • @francisxavier4866
    @francisxavier4866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir,
    This is a Tamil language Not a Dravidian language.

  • @panderichthys_rhombolepis
    @panderichthys_rhombolepis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    'YOUR-ip (Europe), not 'you-ROPE'.

  • @joshuacastaneda4270
    @joshuacastaneda4270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can hear all the little smacks his mouth makes

  • @StarPlanet56789
    @StarPlanet56789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't waste time from so called guru's. Here from the authentic Tamil' s. Tamil's are the original inhabitants of India. Tamil's ruled all of India in ancient times. The language of the Harappans,Indus , Mohenderajo and Keeladi was archaic Tamil. Tamils ruled ALL if India isin ancient times. Close all your debates and accept what to many out there is bitter truth. You can't hide truth from the sun. Tamil's are the only living classical race in the world. No Tamil's No India.