I plan on turbocharging mine in a year or two but I’m interested in seeing solutions for the oil pressure issue during hard right hand turns. Right now that seems like the biggest issue with the car, I have no doubt the engine can hold up to 300 horsepower reliably
@@haifai3916 yea I’ve seen a couple baffled oil pans but I’ve yet to see actual telemetry data of the oil pressure issue on right hand turns being completely solved by it
@@Jez4prez1 yea I’ve seen killerB’s baffled oil pan. I’m still waiting on that one TH-camr to put out his telemetry data on the oil pressure during right hand turns with it on
@@haifai3916 I mean it’s a 30k car gotta keep that in mind. The only problem with the motor is the oil pickup / pressure issue which can probably be fixed altogether with a properly designed baffle. Plus it’s got better compression than the last generation should easily be able handle some boost up to 350 hpr. I’m already buying the car so I’m willing to take the chance and fix the issue with after market support
The SME kits come with a larger volume sump with a huge baffle plate to stop oil splashing into the timing cover. So far so good with our workshop car!
@@pvs_tuning I would be interested to know if there is some reliable data on the sump mods and if you can purchase one for a NA stock engine separately? Guy in the US doing some serious testing with the R/H turn low pressure issue, including Killer B baffles etc I have not tracked mine but thought if the SME stuff worked, it may be a worthwhile mod curing the oil pressure and any silicon issue at the same time.
Where did people find out about the octane learning? Where does it explain how to do octane learning? The fact there’s no confirmation it’s successful and that it requires such a process makes me feel it’s a dealer specific function so they can do region specific tuning.
Be mindful of the same transmission in the gen1. 300ftlbs the gears start to disappear. Lets develop some transmission swaps to hold the power since that is the weakest link.
If this guy is doing track work he may want to look into getting his sump custom baffled to survive right hand bends under G's . It's been proven they starve of oil when sending it in right corners , if you don't believe me check out the video some guy's did on the issue before old mate comes back with spun big end shell's and out of spec turbo clearances blaming you for the failure.
Hey mate I got a question would you say a harrop sc running 13psi is too much for a fa20? Tuned correctly of course. I’m running 11psi at the moment and want to run the 13psi pulley.
So far, no. The standard fuel pump and rails have supported 12psi on E85 which equate to 350kw and 550NM. Anymore than that will require a full fuel system.
What kind of injectors are being used? My gr86 was the r&d car for the vortech supercharger kit and I know I'll be pushing the limit of those come dyno day
We used ID1050's in this and many of our other turbo cars in the past supplied by Racefix Parts: www.racefix.com.au/shop-rf/p/id1050-xds-injectors-set-of-4-subaru-brztoyota-86
I gained 35 hp with custom tune so it’s at 235 at wheels. Delicious tuning kit with Ecutek using local tuner. Will be adding the JDL turbo kit next and keep boost low. I’ll try to keep it under 320 hp to keep stock clutch. I only have cat back exhaust and intake and should have upgraded header and front pipe because the e85 tune magnified the torque dip 3-4.5k rpm. 2nd gen still needs a better header when adding more power.
Superchargers proved to be fairly inefficient on the 2L, what makes you think it will be any different on the 2.4? Modern day turbos have very little lag and turbo setups produce far more torque and power than supercharger setups with less strain on the motor. Whats not to like?
@@kresnik_ss That is simply untrue... Boost on a modern ball bearing turbo with efficient wheels on a high comp engine does not come on late like a freight train like a 90's journal bearing turbo would. With electronic boost control we can ramp the boost in by RPM too so we can literally bring the boost and torque in like a supercharger, not convince why you would want that though. If you're et on supercharging w can also supply, fit and tune Harrop supercharger kits :)
An oil cooler is the absolute minimum. We've had a lot of luck with the standard rad and fans in the 2L cars and the 2.4L shouldn't be any different. A vented bonnet would also be a good consideration if you're doing a lot of track time. Racefix Parts is our local distributor, hit up Alek for any orders or enquiries: www.racefix.com.au/contact-us
For ppl that are intrested thats about 320hp and 300 tq to the wheels
Damn this motor is trash compared to the k24 then
and thats with no e85, then its 430hp and 400 tq
@@swaginih too bad all youre getting is torque steer in your honda
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt still faster, and better built motor than the whole boxer series as a whole honestly.
I was interested to know that, thanks
Cracking work as always and an absolute pleasure to work together once again. Thanks team!
Love you guys pioneering forced induction on FA24
I plan on turbocharging mine in a year or two but I’m interested in seeing solutions for the oil pressure issue during hard right hand turns. Right now that seems like the biggest issue with the car, I have no doubt the engine can hold up to 300 horsepower reliably
Ansix Auto sells a baffle system. They also sell an oil pan with an inspection hole for the RTV issues.
@@haifai3916 yea I’ve seen a couple baffled oil pans but I’ve yet to see actual telemetry data of the oil pressure issue on right hand turns being completely solved by it
@@Jez4prez1 yea I’ve seen killerB’s baffled oil pan. I’m still waiting on that one TH-camr to put out his telemetry data on the oil pressure during right hand turns with it on
@@Smitaye- Bottom line is that the FA24 is junk. It’s good that the GR86/BRZ has a great afternarket for engine swaps.
@@haifai3916 I mean it’s a 30k car gotta keep that in mind. The only problem with the motor is the oil pickup / pressure issue which can probably be fixed altogether with a properly designed baffle. Plus it’s got better compression than the last generation should easily be able handle some boost up to 350 hpr. I’m already buying the car so I’m willing to take the chance and fix the issue with after market support
I'll be getting this car and calling you guys as soon as I have it in my hands to give it powaaaa
Love the turbo sucking sound, so gooood
Great work! Can it handle those right turns though
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They did throw a huge baffled sump on it
The SME kits come with a larger volume sump with a huge baffle plate to stop oil splashing into the timing cover. So far so good with our workshop car!
@@pvs_tuning
I would be interested to know if there is some reliable data on the sump mods
and if you can purchase one for a NA stock engine separately?
Guy in the US doing some serious testing with the R/H turn low pressure issue,
including Killer B baffles etc
I have not tracked mine but thought if the SME stuff worked, it may be a
worthwhile mod curing the oil pressure and any silicon issue at the same time.
i'll be coming to you guys when my gr86 arrives!!
This is very cool. I need to comply with emissions where I live, so probably won't work for me.
any chance of releasing an UEL manifold for this kit?
Where did people find out about the octane learning? Where does it explain how to do octane learning? The fact there’s no confirmation it’s successful and that it requires such a process makes me feel it’s a dealer specific function so they can do region specific tuning.
Be mindful of the same transmission in the gen1. 300ftlbs the gears start to disappear. Lets develop some transmission swaps to hold the power since that is the weakest link.
Great work Tyler
what in the god damn this engine fucking rules, i am getting one. need to save up
If this guy is doing track work he may want to look into getting his sump custom baffled to survive right hand bends under G's .
It's been proven they starve of oil when sending it in right corners , if you don't believe me check out the video some guy's did on the issue before old mate comes back with spun big end shell's and out of spec turbo clearances blaming you for the failure.
Our SME turbo kits include a larger capacity sump with baffling installed.
400nm? 🚀🚀🚀
Can I ask why not swap a fa24 turbo engine out of the WRX? What would be the possible problems that would arise
are there gear boxes for this car ???
Is auto version tuneable?
You're gay
Can you convert this to freedom units?
No
Hey mate I got a question would you say a harrop sc running 13psi is too much for a fa20? Tuned correctly of course. I’m running 11psi at the moment and want to run the 13psi pulley.
😂
Does E85 need a fuel pump upgrade as well?
So far, no. The standard fuel pump and rails have supported 12psi on E85 which equate to 350kw and 550NM. Anymore than that will require a full fuel system.
What kind of injectors are being used? My gr86 was the r&d car for the vortech supercharger kit and I know I'll be pushing the limit of those come dyno day
We used ID1050's in this and many of our other turbo cars in the past supplied by Racefix Parts: www.racefix.com.au/shop-rf/p/id1050-xds-injectors-set-of-4-subaru-brztoyota-86
How much hp do you push with the super charger kit on it?
@@Rysekai dyno day is this week, i'll let you know after. Their first test car made 250 on 4 lbs, but 4 lbs is extremely conservative.
Yes please update me. Im very curious
@@Rysekai Sorry for the late reply, issues came up. The car made 272/212 on the stock pulley (only made 4lbs)
What's possible in making this actually street legal in Australia?
All SME kits can be engineered
How much do you charge after everything, no e85 ?
I spent around 18.5k including everything on my build. Same kit
How do you think these engines would go tuned on e85 but without a turbo? Would there be much gains na and with ethanol?
I think people have tried and gained ~20hp.
Definitely worthwhile when combined with headers. Pretty big gains the whole way through the rev range
I gained 35 hp with custom tune so it’s at 235 at wheels. Delicious tuning kit with Ecutek using local tuner. Will be adding the JDL turbo kit next and keep boost low. I’ll try to keep it under 320 hp to keep stock clutch. I only have cat back exhaust and intake and should have upgraded header and front pipe because the e85 tune magnified the torque dip 3-4.5k rpm. 2nd gen still needs a better header when adding more power.
trying to keept it under 320hp to keep the stock clutch? clutches are measured and limited by torque my guy lol.@@raksterreels4054
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can you say it in English please. I got clutch and gearbox then i don't know what you said. how much hp?
Google kw to hp convertor. Its really that simple
Meanwhile brz and gr86's on the track are getting their engine blown.. anyone here who works on them got something for it?
Straight cut for only 400 hp damn that's a weak gear
😂 ... or over 7 ;P
Whoever puts a turbo on their gr86 doesnt deserve to have one.A supercharger on the other hand would make the gr86 probably the best sports car today
Superchargers proved to be fairly inefficient on the 2L, what makes you think it will be any different on the 2.4? Modern day turbos have very little lag and turbo setups produce far more torque and power than supercharger setups with less strain on the motor. Whats not to like?
@@kresnik_ss That is simply untrue... Boost on a modern ball bearing turbo with efficient wheels on a high comp engine does not come on late like a freight train like a 90's journal bearing turbo would. With electronic boost control we can ramp the boost in by RPM too so we can literally bring the boost and torque in like a supercharger, not convince why you would want that though. If you're et on supercharging w can also supply, fit and tune Harrop supercharger kits :)
Why bother with a can can only handle like 350 without having to do a built motor? Smh. Just get a real car already!!
350 is pretty great for how light it is what are you smoking
@@nt03hamlin what are YOU smoking that’s pathetic.
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350kw is 470hp in freedom units in a 2800lb car... it's literally got better power to weight than a 991 GT3 lol.
@@racefix lol! Dumb fool!!
What kind of cooling upgrades needed for a track car? U.S.A. distributor?
An oil cooler is the absolute minimum. We've had a lot of luck with the standard rad and fans in the 2L cars and the 2.4L shouldn't be any different. A vented bonnet would also be a good consideration if you're doing a lot of track time.
Racefix Parts is our local distributor, hit up Alek for any orders or enquiries: www.racefix.com.au/contact-us