Google did the same and nailed it. It isn't neccessarily bad if they keep improving and tweaking the software. Hardware isn't everything.. I think MKBHD's results on blind camera tests have shown that multiple times already.
It really is. Samsung should be ashamed of themselves. It's like they don't even want to sell phones anymore. You'd think with competition being stronger than ever they would step it up. But they haven't done enough.
@@AceOfHearts001 Yes there is. Im using the Fold 3 as well. I love the info on the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro but since it has not dropped in the US I'm afraid of damaging the phone and having to pay an outrageous amount of money to get it fixed.
How many major changes does your car model receive year by year? Major changes on a yearly product is unrealistic because you aren’t supposed to upgrade every year. If you waited every 3 or so, you would see and feel a major difference.
As wish as a community we would agree to not buy this phone, due to the minimal changes. I know it won't happen and people are going to always buy the new phone because they have no impulse control. But man if only we could REALLY hurt their bottom line buy not doing a single purchase. Maybe then they would invest more on R&D to give a product that's actually worth the price
Judging by all the comments I have read on various youtube chanels it would seem everyone is dissapointed so hopefully they will get the message. Personally I was VERY excited for this reveal only to be complely dissapointed.
@@Leo23XR my ZF4 screen protector cracked, removed it and worked fine about 6 months until I made sharp dot on the inner screen and eventually phone went dead. I think it went dead from the folding mechanism and power cable snapped, but Samsung did not want to check that and no warranty possible. They asked about 500 to fix. Will move away from Samsung after 12 years and try other brands, like Oppo or smth.
I'm changing to fold6 from my fold5 as I'm changing phones each year to the latest processor as I care for a larger screen which the fold6 had it a bit bigger (personally don't care care about camera and s-pen since I hardly use them), too bad vivo has no intranational model and pixel tensor 4 is still as compare to snapdragon
Idk about this years fold and flip 6. I'll wait for the unpacked event to make my final decision. What I'm truly hoping for is the (if true) fold ultra. If anything, the S25U will definitely be a for sure purchase. Thanks Sal for keeping us informed on the latest news 💯
If they think I am going to buy the same fking Fold for the third straight time they are insane...What a massive disappointment. I am interested in the white version of their watch though.
@@ronervine unless they intentionally leaked bad info about things staying same and then bam July 10 they surprise everyone and make the changes we all want lol
@donniethesportsguy893 Man lol 😆 I thought the same thing ! Fingers crossed 🤞 as that would be awesome. They are up against stronger competition in the foldable market now, so they must know loss of market share is probable with this release.
@ronervine man, I bought a Galaxy watch too and after a year, I am thoroughly disappointed. Laggy software and unreliable step tracking. Floor counts is also out of whack. This means other health tracking features may also be crappy, but I don't exactly have a way to test them. Realizing now that it'd be better to buy something more accurate and reliable like a Garmin (that is if you care about the accuracy of the fitness stuff).
Samsung makes all of the folding screens for every company using them. EVERY foldable sale in the world is a Samsung sale. For their semiconductor company and not the phone division sure, but they definitely don't really care that much. I'll still only buy a foldable that has a pen, so Samsung and honor are the only options
Even with a Fold 3 I'm unimpressed by the fold 6... just the battery not lasting as long as it used to, might be the only reason to get the fold 6 with a good trade-in option
My wife has a flip and it's a disaster! In the middle of the screen the screen damaged because of folding the phone, you will see shattered glas. When she flips the phone it makes now this weird sound like their is sand in it. It's just a mess, never buy a folding phone
Samsung Should Have Redesigned The Camera, they Should Have Put The Same 4 Cameras on the Z Fold 6 From The Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, Samsung Also Should Have Made it Ip68 , Samsung Should Have Also Made the Z Folf 6 Bigger Just Like the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, That is Called an Upgrade😎,Samsung😎
I'm actually happy it doesn't have the same screen as the S24 Ultra. The matte thing sounds great on paper, but now you have to get Samsung's matte protector, because if you put a regular screen protector on it, it'll mess up the anti-glare thing.
I think I’m sticking with my z fold 5. I need the 1tb and according to the price, it’s still too high with a trade in. Nope! I won’t be buying the same phone twice, this year. I do want the ultra watch though.
I'm debating if I should trade in my Fold 4. I'm not looking for major changes/improvements every year; however, samsung has been underwhelming lately. I'm really looking at Pixel Fold and even Iphone 16 Pro Max.
@shahreiftaylor1687 I agree. I'm currently paying for it, and I used it a couple of times. It's totally worth it. Let's hope the products are even better than the leaks.
Phones need to be launched once every 2 years. There is almost no upgrade whatsoever. They should take their time and launch alternate years. So one year is for S series, next year for folding phones, next year again for S series, etc
Samsung should either seriously improve a lot of feature and build quality for its fold series OR decrease the price aggresively. No other option to save this series 😅😊
@alphaspartan yeah that's true. 2k for nearly the sane phone as last year is crazy though. Let's see what happens in the unpacked event. Maybe they surprise us. Iv got a fold 3 and was banking on a bigger front screen this year but If not I'm swapping to a honor fold v3 when it's released next year
My Fold 3 battery life is Crap, i had to have it Replaced due to the Battery Swelling up inside the phone causing my Fold 3 to Separate, i want to upgrade but ill just wait until the unpack event to make my decision, thanks Sal.
I'm changing to fold6 from my fold5 as I'm changing phones each year to the latest processor as I care more for a larger screen which the fold6 has it a bit bigger (personally don't care care about camera and s-pen since I hardly use them), too bad vivo has no intranational model and pixel tensor 4 is still as compare to snapdragon
Wooohooo, the new Samsung fold 5b. 💩...🤷 Really thought they'd have a s24 front screen size and matching camera this time around. Really hate my narrow fold 5 front screen. Pixel anybody?
Which if they have the international version, if don't have, Samsung still wins by support and available in all countries. I rather buy Samsung then buy a non-international Chinese rom version which don't support most countries
I am slightly underwhelmed by the lack of significant innovation in the new phone's design. To remain competitive in the market, it is crucial to keep pace with the advancements introduced by Chinese manufacturers.
Currently using the fold3 didnt upgrade to the fold4 because the differences where small same with the 5 same with the 6... so I'll get a camera upgrade front screen upgrade if i get the Z6 for around 1800 euros? Yeah... thats not interesting at all..
This is like a bad joke, I would have even understood if the Fold 6 would cost 1500 or less so that Samsung could achieve more sales and market share. And a Fold 6 Ultra with a normal front screen, 5000mah battery and S series camera for 2000 then okay, everything done right, but like this it will really flop and i'm so pissed and tired of Samsung
If you are into foldable smartphones, avoid Samsung. There are plenty of other android foldable options. It would be nice to see foldable phones from Apple, but they are a decade behind. It's gonna take a while for them to catch up 😂
Wait for Pixel Fold 2, right around the corner and that's gonna be a BIG upgrade 🔥 Samsung has become Apple, just look at that useless aspect ratio of the outer display.
Same camera for the past 4 generations. Absolutely disgraceful.
Google did the same and nailed it. It isn't neccessarily bad if they keep improving and tweaking the software. Hardware isn't everything.. I think MKBHD's results on blind camera tests have shown that multiple times already.
It really is. Samsung should be ashamed of themselves. It's like they don't even want to sell phones anymore. You'd think with competition being stronger than ever they would step it up. But they haven't done enough.
*3
@@Vahndamme some ppl just don't understand
@@VahndammeNice job defending Samsung.
404 Flagship features not found! Seriously getting tired of Samsung teasing and then failing to impress.
Imagine how I phone users feel
@@YakAttack915happy, fulfilled, enjoying their live knowing they can use their phone for phone stuff
the magic v3 will stomp it out of the buisness
I have the zfold3, was holding out for the 6......lets squeeze another year out of the zfold3 and hope the 7 has what we want.
there are other foldables in the market!
@@AceOfHearts001
I think the trade in offers Samsung does and the woeful resell value of folding phones means he has to stay with Samsung
@@AceOfHearts001 Yes there is. Im using the Fold 3 as well. I love the info on the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro but since it has not dropped in the US I'm afraid of damaging the phone and having to pay an outrageous amount of money to get it fixed.
Buy an S Ultra 😂
Exactly
Being a samsung fan ... sad to Samsung following footsteps of apple .. nothing changing from year to year
At least with their fold phones their actual flagship s series has been changing immensely these past years
How many major changes does your car model receive year by year? Major changes on a yearly product is unrealistic because you aren’t supposed to upgrade every year. If you waited every 3 or so, you would see and feel a major difference.
@@FreeTheRobots its a $2000 phone and they lost their top spot in the foldable phone market so....
@@thechillmaster5836Yep. Vivo, Oppo, and Xiaomi are kicking Samsung's butt.
@FreeTheRobots My Tesla has major upgrades at least once a year, can't see why a phone that costs 2k can't
In other words, the same fold as last year & the year before basically
And the year before that 😅
No the price is expensive this one.
@@azaypandeyy6384 good point! Yet people are excited
As wish as a community we would agree to not buy this phone, due to the minimal changes. I know it won't happen and people are going to always buy the new phone because they have no impulse control. But man if only we could REALLY hurt their bottom line buy not doing a single purchase. Maybe then they would invest more on R&D to give a product that's actually worth the price
Judging by all the comments I have read on various youtube chanels it would seem everyone is dissapointed so hopefully they will get the message. Personally I was VERY excited for this reveal only to be complely dissapointed.
I agree! Let's not support this disappointment. Let's hurt their sales. We have the control to make them do something about it next year.
I'm with you! I've really been wanting to get a foldable but this device is way overpriced and is inferior to the 24ultra. No way am I getting it.
Unless there's a massive secret revealed, I think I'm good with my Fold5. I mean, the 6 looks nice, but only if I still had my Fold4.
I have a ZF4, and I'm sticking with it until the S25U comes out. I'm done with Samsung foldables.
@@thundergato84 Same. Fold4 trade in for S25U
@@Leo23XR my ZF4 screen protector cracked, removed it and worked fine about 6 months until I made sharp dot on the inner screen and eventually phone went dead.
I think it went dead from the folding mechanism and power cable snapped, but Samsung did not want to check that and no warranty possible. They asked about 500 to fix.
Will move away from Samsung after 12 years and try other brands, like Oppo or smth.
I'm changing to fold6 from my fold5 as I'm changing phones each year to the latest processor as I care for a larger screen which the fold6 had it a bit bigger (personally don't care care about camera and s-pen since I hardly use them), too bad vivo has no intranational model and pixel tensor 4 is still as compare to snapdragon
@@Leo23XR it's preference if u can't tell, no need to insult someone like u just did
They've literally done nothing to improve it. Still with the shitty 10mp front camera!? Wtf.
Bro the phone looks like an ultra now and flips. What else u want u greedy bastard
Damn so its like Fold got no changes except for minor change design. This is lame
Flip 6 cover screen has been downgraded to IPS
Shame on TM ROH for insulting their Flagships and fooling their customers
I'm sure if this flops it'll be down 1500-1400 in no time.
Yea, im good with the 5, still no slotted s pen, no quad speakers. No 5k battery, can u use the s pen on the front screen?
Cool. Still not buying though.
More for me
@@YakAttack915 get scammed buddy
What is really going on with Samsung this time around. I’m starting to move away from them.
Dude me too.
Go to honor. As Samsung fan i bought magic v2 fold super happy with it
I've been a Samsung guy since the S10. Have gotten a new device every year. I'm thinking it's time to move to someone else. Maybe back to OnePlus.
Idk about this years fold and flip 6. I'll wait for the unpacked event to make my final decision. What I'm truly hoping for is the (if true) fold ultra. If anything, the S25U will definitely be a for sure purchase. Thanks Sal for keeping us informed on the latest news 💯
Downgrading ZFlip6 from OLED to LCD? No way
And increasing price
That has to be a mis-type
I am really hoping it is a typo.
It's a typo. Lcd screens can't be foldable to my knowledge
@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot But the cover display
Why would they do this?!
continued cost cutting by TM Roh @@Steven-e7c
If they think I am going to buy the same fking Fold for the third straight time they are insane...What a massive disappointment. I am interested in the white version of their watch though.
Sure you will be the first one preordering 😂
Couldnt agree more with what youve said. I have always upgraded my folds to the newest versions, this year I wont be.
@@ronervine unless they intentionally leaked bad info about things staying same and then bam July 10 they surprise everyone and make the changes we all want lol
@donniethesportsguy893 Man lol 😆 I thought the same thing ! Fingers crossed 🤞 as that would be awesome. They are up against stronger competition in the foldable market now, so they must know loss of market share is probable with this release.
@ronervine man, I bought a Galaxy watch too and after a year, I am thoroughly disappointed. Laggy software and unreliable step tracking. Floor counts is also out of whack. This means other health tracking features may also be crappy, but I don't exactly have a way to test them. Realizing now that it'd be better to buy something more accurate and reliable like a Garmin (that is if you care about the accuracy of the fitness stuff).
Still rocking my fold 3
so I guess I'll be waiting another year... or maybe just going with the google pixel
stop waiting for Samsung, not worth it
@@airforce_12553 true
What a HUGE fckn dissapointment. Shame Samsung, youve lost a long time user of your products. Im switching. Lazy, lazy, lazy
Was hoping I would be moved to purchase the z fold 6 coming from the fold 2 but looking like vivo x fold 3 pro is the move to make
Agreed.
Too bad no international model, so no go for me, Chinese rom versions don't even support some counties
@@arthur_pd I believe there's a global version now
@@michaelantoine2800 yes, but it's they usually release about half a year later at q4-q4 and I rather not wait that long
IP48 will not be enough to save Samsung.
😂😂😂
"I'll see you in the parking lot!"
Samsung makes all of the folding screens for every company using them. EVERY foldable sale in the world is a Samsung sale. For their semiconductor company and not the phone division sure, but they definitely don't really care that much.
I'll still only buy a foldable that has a pen, so Samsung and honor are the only options
@@cheeeeezewizzzWhat does making displays for other companies have to do with the lack of innovation?
I can't see much of an upgrade since Fold3
Now I know why the trade-in deals are so good
Even with a Fold 3 I'm unimpressed by the fold 6... just the battery not lasting as long as it used to, might be the only reason to get the fold 6 with a good trade-in option
My wife has a flip and it's a disaster! In the middle of the screen the screen damaged because of folding the phone, you will see shattered glas. When she flips the phone it makes now this weird sound like their is sand in it. It's just a mess, never buy a folding phone
The theme here is “the phone of last year”. 😂. Still the best foldable in my opinion. ZF3 still going strong. ZF8 might be the upgrade FYI
Samsung Should Have Redesigned The Camera, they Should Have Put The Same 4 Cameras on the Z Fold 6 From The Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, Samsung Also Should Have Made it Ip68 , Samsung Should Have Also Made the Z Folf 6 Bigger Just Like the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, That is Called an Upgrade😎,Samsung😎
Just 4400 mah battery ?? When other companies are providing 5000 mah in their foldables 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
I'm actually happy it doesn't have the same screen as the S24 Ultra. The matte thing sounds great on paper, but now you have to get Samsung's matte protector, because if you put a regular screen protector on it, it'll mess up the anti-glare thing.
My favourite Samsung news page. Hi Sal from Australia 👋🏼
Hey Chris! Thank you! I appreciate it :)
With this cover screen ratio a lot of apps won't work properly.. I'm an owner of z fold 5 and a lot of apps just don't behave normally
I won't buy it until the outside screen is bigger and the camera module is equivalent to the ultra
Gemini put up a reminder to remind Samsung that it is a 2000usd phone 💀
I think I’m sticking with my z fold 5. I need the 1tb and according to the price, it’s still too high with a trade in. Nope! I won’t be buying the same phone twice, this year. I do want the ultra watch though.
After Zfold 4 & zflip 4 Samsung hasn't doing any big changes in their foldable department 🤦♂️😡😭
I'm debating if I should trade in my Fold 4. I'm not looking for major changes/improvements every year; however, samsung has been underwhelming lately.
I'm really looking at Pixel Fold and even Iphone 16 Pro Max.
I wasn't gonna, but getting a free year of samsung care is hard to ignore.
@shahreiftaylor1687 I agree. I'm currently paying for it, and I used it a couple of times. It's totally worth it. Let's hope the products are even better than the leaks.
Phones need to be launched once every 2 years.
There is almost no upgrade whatsoever.
They should take their time and launch alternate years.
So one year is for S series, next year for folding phones, next year again for S series, etc
Untel they change the camera to a 108pixel back
32pixel front
That the time ill buy the fold lineup
When are they finally going to give us a reasonable front width (like a normal phone) and an S-pen that fits inside? Is it that hard Samsung? Come on!
People wants foldable to get thinner each year, and now the fold6 is thinner(unfolded) then the s24u, so it's hard to put a s-pen into it
Samsung should either seriously improve a lot of feature and build quality for its fold series OR decrease the price aggresively. No other option to save this series 😅😊
I'm excited for the fold 7..
Anything on buds 3 pro or watch ultra??
They should just release this phone every 2 years 🤷
boycot samsung! treating loyal customers this way while looking for profit by increasing price
Go buy a iphone u beach !
@@Zb07 I phone is even worse with their upgrades. They don't even have a foldable yet. Years behind
Do you actually buy a phone every year?
Inflation been really bad around the world, the $100 increase on $1800 is actually not that much.
@alphaspartan yeah that's true. 2k for nearly the sane phone as last year is crazy though. Let's see what happens in the unpacked event. Maybe they surprise us. Iv got a fold 3 and was banking on a bigger front screen this year but If not I'm swapping to a honor fold v3 when it's released next year
IPS display instead of OLED???
Maybe the flip screen downgrade was to prevent burn in? I'm not sure.
I think I might as well stick to my Fold 4
My Fold 3 battery life is Crap, i had to have it Replaced due to the Battery Swelling up inside the phone causing my Fold 3 to Separate, i want to upgrade but ill just wait until the unpack event to make my decision, thanks Sal.
Downgrade from OLED to IPS for the Flip6 Front Screen? That's a L to me. I'll stick with my 5.
I'm changing to fold6 from my fold5 as I'm changing phones each year to the latest processor as I care more for a larger screen which the fold6 has it a bit bigger (personally don't care care about camera and s-pen since I hardly use them), too bad vivo has no intranational model and pixel tensor 4 is still as compare to snapdragon
we need wqhd+ for all samsung phones now, its time for samsung to show why they are the best manifacturer!
Wooohooo, the new Samsung fold 5b. 💩...🤷 Really thought they'd have a s24 front screen size and matching camera this time around. Really hate my narrow fold 5 front screen. Pixel anybody?
Samsung becoming more and more like Apple..
Dex on flip?
Z fold 3 looks good 😂
The competition does everything better
honor fold 3 will litteraly be murdering samsung right now
Which if they have the international version, if don't have, Samsung still wins by support and available in all countries. I rather buy Samsung then buy a non-international Chinese rom version which don't support most countries
OnePlus Open all day long 😂😂😂
Yeah, Samsung's deluded
Samsung, is now doing, what Apple does...lack luster changes...unfortunately
Dude ? Where is the improvement ? I didn't notice a single eye catching improvement here .
It seems like Samsung improve one thing and downgrade the other😂.
Z Fold does not impress me so I will keep my S23 Ultra because it is a great phone.
I am slightly underwhelmed by the lack of significant innovation in the new phone's design. To remain competitive in the market, it is crucial to keep pace with the advancements introduced by Chinese manufacturers.
Samsung's complacency with improving its tech is starting to get too much now.
So just a thinner, lighter, and boxier Fold 5
Fold 3 2024 edition with a steep price increase!
Such a letdown smh i have the fold 4 and the reason i didn't get the 5 was the same reason I won't get the 6. Samsung has no shame
If they didnt fix the inner screen protector, its a no go for me...began peeling under the hinge bend not 15 months after ownership.
Been really disappointed this year with Samsung; pretty much everything they've done recently has just been low quality garbage
That’s harsh. It’s not trash just not innovating anymore. That I agree with.
Add the space zoom... wtf samsung.... I'd buy it if you'd just add the good camera package....
I may just keep my fold 5 and get the watch ultra, buds pro and the s25u later. Howerver, not sure if i can let go of a foldable.
THEY COULD OF JUST MADE A S PEN LOT AND MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY AND CALL IT A DAY 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, Samsung keeps focusing on a slimmer device and that's not something people are asking for...
I live Samsung, but i can't wait to see Samsung go down the foldable market.
They started it but will definitely go down to the bottom
Does anyone know why foldable phones have raised edges (bezel? Not flat) on the inner screen? For protection or limited by technology?
I'm going to hold on to my z-fold 5 for another year or two and let Google bake on their foldable.
IPS screen on Flip?!?
Currently using the fold3 didnt upgrade to the fold4 because the differences where small same with the 5 same with the 6... so I'll get a camera upgrade front screen upgrade if i get the Z6 for around 1800 euros? Yeah... thats not interesting at all..
So basically No.
That's it
Well guess i'll wait for the ultra 25 and just pre-order that phone since that already promesses to be way better with its upgrades
With increased width and decreased height, the phone now may look more square than z fold 5 is
This is like a bad joke, I would have even understood if the Fold 6 would cost 1500 or less so that Samsung could achieve more sales and market share. And a Fold 6 Ultra with a normal front screen, 5000mah battery and S series camera for 2000 then okay, everything done right, but like this it will really flop and i'm so pissed and tired of Samsung
the camera is such a dealbreaker. no improvement at all. i'll just get the vivo fold x3 pro. samsung really turned into apple
I think samsung is limiting all its upgrade for the fold slim
This is pathetic by Samsung! I won't be getting this! Looks like the Pixel Fold 2 has become more attractive.
Everything Samsung does lately just screams lazy...
Just needs no crease and perfect underscreen camera. No and no, means wait (2-3... 4 years).
Lmfao 😂. And how is this an upgrade again? Even if Samsung gave it to me for free... I'd send it back!
All the noise despite far better foldables already in the market with far less hype.
I prefer the Z Flip 6 having a non-oled display, to prevent burn in
Hoping the Pixel Fold 2 will have big improvements and app support to over-shine the Fold 6
Oh...so other than a few cosmetic changes and newer chips, it's the same as my current fold 4.
If you are into foldable smartphones, avoid Samsung. There are plenty of other android foldable options.
It would be nice to see foldable phones from Apple, but they are a decade behind. It's gonna take a while for them to catch up 😂
I think it's safe to say that samsung doesn't want the Z series to match or beat the S series in features.
Wait for Pixel Fold 2, right around the corner and that's gonna be a BIG upgrade 🔥 Samsung has become Apple, just look at that useless aspect ratio of the outer display.
ips??? dafuq hold up! You cant just say that and then thats it!
Still using the Fold 3 now, guess my next phone will be pixel fold 2
I wouldn't buy this simply down to the GGV.
This looks so good!
Waiting for Fold 8
I really don't get why their most expensive phone doesn't have the best specs
Still waiting for integrated s-pen...... 😮💨