Hacksaw Ridge (2016) - Court (Trial scene) [1080p]
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- This movie speaks for itself. In my opinion - it deserved the oscar. At least Andrew did. But anyway, I think that Mel and his crew did a great job, so I highly recommend to watch the full movie when you will have the time to do so.
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You do realize that he hated that uniform as much as he hated himself. With all the medals he wished he never earned. But without it nobody would take his boy's case seriously. So he went on a last battle wearing the one thing that took everything from him to save what is left of his humanity. Tragic yet profoundly beautiful.
That's surprisingly well said
He was ashamed of the praise because he was alive and his friends weren't. It's absolutely true to life
The sentiment of your statement that came from the heart could not have been said any better.
My hand will sustain him; surely My arm will strengthen him. No enemy will exact tribute; no wicked man will oppress him. I will crush his foes before him and strike down those who hate him. My faithfulness and loving devotion will be with him, and through My name his horn will be exalted. - Psalm 89:21-24
A very underestimated aspect of the movie.
"Privat Doss, you are free to run into the hellfire of battle without a single weapon to protect yourself." Don't know why, but it is that line in this scene that gives me the shivers everytime.
It's because the presiding officer personally disagrees with the outcome of the case specifically because of the massive amount of personal risk Doss is taking up by refusing to use violence when needed in a combat unit.
Meanwhile in stalingrad.
I would have thought that guy was either insane or suicidal I am a pacifist myself but even I believe a man has a right to have a weapon to defend himself if he has no choice but to fight
Meanwhile, in WW1 there were bagpipe players that marched onto the battlefields.
@@axelreboot8475 It was never about rights. It was about belief. Doss had the right to carry a weapon. He didn't want one. He wanted to save lives, not take them. When it comes to saving lives, a gun is about the most useless piece of kit you could possibly bring.
I love how the judge in this hearing showed respect enough to respond his salute and the colonel withdrew the charges in a tone that showed respect to the private as well as an apologetic tone.
It could be that, but it also could be the fact that the Buck Colonel knew there was no way he was going to win when a One star comes in in support of Doss.
I'm not sure it was an apologetic tone, but it showed that he had great respect for the order of the military. There was certainly humility in his voice.
Lol, the guy literally didn’t even know the law and was a judge. “Respect” that’s rich
Am I blind, where is this salute?
@@krazed0451 it’s when he saluted the man sitting at the the table I think
Japanese: *attacks Pearl Harbor*
Pvt. Doss: "And I took that personally"
Meme format never fails 😂
"So anyway, that's when I didn't start blasting"
@@Kosh800 So anyways I started carrying
Okay fine. That's all I needed.
*”so anyway, that’s when i started saving”*
Any man standing in their Great War Uniform has all the respect, just saying. "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away."
Sam Smith I just heard that from Bob Ross interestingly enough.
Respect...…. 1st Battalion Coldstream guards. Cpt Ret.
“Fade away” *mr stark, I don’t feel so good ;(*
@@turtleruski1915 huh, tis spider man aint need no rich man to help him, he is better than tom
I was shocked to not see the guards snap to attention seeing that uniform.
Most impressive part of this scene is the dad still fit perfectly in that uniform.
Still in regs
People were not fatfucks back then
There was no “obesity crisis” back then. People stayed their natural shape till they died.
Strict liquor regimen
Probably the good side of The Great Depression
My wife and I had the honor of meeting Desmond Doss in the early to mid 1980's in CT when he came to testify to his experience in WWII. It is an understatement to say he was a humble man. He was the kindest, most honorable man I ever had the privilege to speak with. God was most certainly with him. The book was far better than the movie. My guess is, Mel Gibson had to dial it back as to seem more believable. Amazing story, amazing man, amazing God who shielded and guided him.
I heard they did have to dial it back. Because if they showed more than his heroics at Okinawa it wouldn't be believable.
GOD OUR FATHER AND CREATOR WILL NEVER LET DOWN THOSE WHO TRUST AND HONOR HIM. DESMOND DOSS PUT HIS FAITH AND TRUST IN THE HANDS OF HIS PRECIOUS LORD AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LORD PUT TO SHAME ALL THOSE WHO REJECTED HIM, WHO MADE FUN OF HIM, HUMILLIATED HIM, FOR WANTING TO SERVE GOD AND HIS FELLOW MEN. NEVER MESS WITH A CHILD OF GOD.
What is the name of the book?
I think the book's name is Desmond Doss: Concientious Objector.
Doss wasn't the first soldier to not bare arms in world wars. I know of one famous Australian and rescued a lot of men until a sniper got him.
You know it really speaks to his integrity to face that court-martial. Forgetting the plea deal entirely, he could've avoided the trial by going through boot camp without mention of his intent to not take a life and simply never fired or aimed his weapon from the point onwards. Instead, he voiced his objection openly and proudly. That's just really something else.
2 years old, but whatever lol.
I think that's a dangerous precedent. The people around him needed to know his CO about taking a life. About so much as picking up a weapon. The scene in Saving Private Ryan comes to mind where the scared US troop was moving up the stairs slowly whilst the other guy was getting stabbed (not that I'm trying to shame him either, psychology is hard to break) - you're expecting someone to fight to defend you and boom - they don't. You need complete honesty and trust in a unit (speaking like I was in any military lol when I'm not).
Doss saved a lot of people, and I am in NO WAY trying to deter from that - but if you are that CO about not killing anyone, then you shouldn't be allowed to join the military - with no shame about not joining it (tbh there are VERY few cases where I'd want to fight in a world war or the like - we've been fighting for thousands of years and we still do it, something has to change). Army support services? Sure - but not in combat.
@@borgCube100Your comment reeks of ignorance. So we should get rid of an important asset because of our own morals beliefs? You do realize there is no reason to not let snyone serve unless they were likely to betray the unit right? Why do you think a medic shouldn't be allowed to serve just because he doesn't want to kill the enemy? As if he wouldn't still be of use. And if even after knowing all the lives he saved you think someone with his beliefs shouldn't serve then you seriously have something bad going on up there in your head
@@TOBY-jy7bz Lol amazing, you're the one calling ME ignorant and talking about "something bad" going on up there without actually reading or understanding the comment.
Instead you've come back with a moronic Americanism about "PERSONAL BELIEFS WEHH"
I never once said he, or people like him, shouldn't be barred form ALL services or as a medic. Merely not in an active combat role - which is very common as the entire Armed Forces can't just be made up of rifle-men.
But please, continue to make yourself look fucking stupid by crying that people who won't actually fight are safe for their squadmates and makes sense in the brutality of war. Doss was a 1 in a billion person.
@@borgCube100 combat medic is literally a support service, you don't shoot people as a medic, you drag them to cover and do your thing. the gun is a weapon of last resort
@@ironboy3245 "last resort"
I'm not implying that medics have to be all John Wick. But it's a battlefield scenario. If you can't/won't fight then you're a liability in literally every other case than Doss. Save lives in field hospitals away from the battle.
Anyone disagreeing is doing so because they respect Doss (which I do too), not because they can/do find fault in what I'm saying.
CO's in the field don't want to kill but are happy to allow for everyone else to do it for them.
Hugo Weaving is great in this. A broken down man who still has enough pride to put on his old uniform and step up for his son.
I loved that part
Incredible watching this and seeing absolute loyalty, morality, patriotism and love of our this country and everything it stands for...
Randy Magnum he beat his wife and children but sure..
FBI we got em Either you didn’t watch the movie or you’re not mentally developed enough to understand it’s not as black and white as that. I’m not defending his father’s alcoholism or his physical and verbal abuse. He is however, a prime example of severe untreated PTSD. He fought in WW1 and saw hell and he did not know how to overcome it and deal with it. Doss’ mother attests to that in the beginning of the movie. This scene is moving because despite Desmond’s upbringing and the treatment he endured with his father, and despite him absolutely HATING the idea of both his son’s signing up to join in WW2, he still went and fought for his son’s right to not bear arms and stand up for his child. His father knew that he’d spend time in a military prison if he didn’t. If it weren’t for him, he’d have never saved those 75+ men, including wounded enemy soldiers.
Ali B I’m pretty sure FBI meant it as a joke. Calm your fucking ass down.
Such a brave instance of a father standing up for his son.
jackinthebox4934 I agree
Well the story is made even more touching knowing the backstory. The Father hated his service, he suffers PTSD from WW1 and turned to drinking to help deal with it. He was generally a very hard father and getting his love was even harder. So the fact that he put aside his fears and trauma from the past, facing his demons so that his son could go do what he wanted to do is the embodiment of a Father's love
@@Slemoster Yeah that might well have been the most open he saw his father in his life, dude was willing to uncover all that for his son.
The man stood for millions in ww1, you really don't think he wouldn't stand for his own son, do you?
@@saeedatenzi WW1 was not a war of ideology it was a war of empires, no one was fighting for freedom or liberty they were fighting to preserve the old European order. More than that he was clearly scarred in his service having seen some of the heaviest fighting the US would experience. Many people, most people probably, would find that hard to overcome even for their loved ones let alone climbing back into the uniform and pushing your way into an ongoing court martial for them.
As a man who wore his own uniform for 18 months in the army (though not in combat but in national service during peace time) any soldier who feels a uniform is "outdated" dares not call themselves one no longer. In the end, they did right by this soldier and honored him by letting him in. I did get teary eyed I will admit.
A year and a half? How did that happen if you don't mind me asking. I'm not hinting at anything disrespectful. Any amount of military service is impressive to me. I'm just curious is all.
@@KarlPHorse He might not be American, I served in the US Army for 6 years; Some countries have mandatory service, which is 18 months-2 years depending on what country they are in. The US military is an all volunteer force but other countries have different laws & regulations depending on those countries policy.
Examples of these countries that have compulsory service are: South Korea, Israel, Vietnam, Brazil, Bermuda, Greece, Norway, Sweden, ETC.
@@KarlPHorse how about you Karl? You are being disrespectful and it's not any of our business.
@@stevek8829 There is always that one angry dude on the internet.
@@stevek8829 he is not being disrespectful in any obvious way, and saying "I'm not hinting at anything disrespectful" is there to dissuade any notion of disrespecting the time he served in any overt way
And he understands that it is none of our business by saying "if you don't mind me asking" which gives him an polite way out if he feels like replying but not elaborating
If anyone is being disrespectful here it is you
one thing i absolutely love about this movie is that des father wasnt the stereotypical uncaring ptsd drunk. he loves his family he loved his country and even with his ptsd he was one hell of a father throughout the whole movie... was honestly so refreshing from the usual ww2 era movies.
You think after the war the judge was like “damn, I almost threw that guy out of the military” ?
No, because virtually none of this happened IRL
@@BoxStudioExecutive , what did happen was that a young man believed that he could go into battle with God's protection and no gun, and save his fellow men.
If you don't think that's plausible, possible, or real than I don't know to say except that, although I didn't serve in the military, I did have a nickle-plated semi-automatic handgun pointed at me on a train in Brooklyn, New York in the late 1980s or early 1990s (after the Bernard Getz incident) and the young man couldn't shoot me although I had just pushed him on the floor after he'd attempted to rob me.
I don't care what any "genius" says; if God intends for a person to survive and not be killed, that person will not be hurt or killed, even without carrying a gun.
@@oneconcerned I was clearly referring to the trial.
@@oneconcerned You really need to learn not to use run on sentence's!!! Grammar could work for you also!!!
@@kellysheros1
If grammar is your best contribution, I suggest you withdraw.
How much that hurt for me to hear that coming from his father a decorated veteran of the first world war. For his service and sacrifice to be so easily dismissed at least at first by the commanding officer. It took a great deal for him to come in uniform with all the memories of the horrors of war and the loss of his comrades attached to it.
I know what you mean outlaw357.
My grandfather lied about his age to join the army during WW2, He landed in Normandy, and made it all the way to Germany and made it back home without a scare or scratch, then five year later he left to fight in the Koran war, and still nothing bad happen,but for all his hard work he ended up getting drafted into the Vietnam war and was branded a child murderer. The military life is never fair, the men and women give everything and get nothing in return, While killers, drug dealers and rapist get three meals a day, full medical attention and free schooling.
Tristan Lee your grandfather and my grandfather may have been friends during the war and even if they weren't there is a good indication they served together! My grandfather was one of the first to set foot on the beach of Omaha at Normandy, he fought at Sicily, Belgium, and Paris. And he was shot in the leg by a German sniper at Cologne West Germany. He was twice decorated with the purple heart and the the silver star. His name was Corporal Thomas Earl Brumett and his unit was the 1st army first infantrty.
Is that what you think? Are you for real? Please explain HOW is it that his country should have never been involved in these wars, please do tell!
Yeah, america won the WW2, sure, didn't supply germany throughout the whole war and then joined in last moment
@getcha some you couldn't be more wrong. He was protected by LAW that states he could serve as a contentious objector in the field where he could provide support IE medic in this case and could not be compelled to follow an order which breaks a law or treaty of the United States ( making that order an unlawful order ) . He did not "get off" he was in the right . Learn before you speak in ignorance especially about a Congressional Medal Of Honor awardee who did more for humanity in one night than most have done in an entire lifetime . From one war veteran to another thank-you Desmond Doss mat you rest in honor and peace .
Just love how the letter from the Brigadier General was, in kind words, a way of telling those against Doss to shut up and deal with it. That he has rights by Congress and that he is protected by them. And to go against them, is to go against the chain of command.
My grandfather served in The Great War, from I know of him he suffered similar results as this young man did. My Grandfather too had a son serve in the Army during WWII - He was 82nd Airborne - jumped on D-Day, was wounded but survived and tragically like so many others he never made it home - he was killed during Operation Market Garden-and is buried in Holland. Thank you Uncle Richard for making the ultimate sacrifice
Mad respect for ur uncle sry to hear he died
Thank you. Be well and God bless you and your family, friends and your countrymen 😊
My prayers for your family, may your grandfather and uncle’s legacy never be forgotten
Thank you- My best to you and your family 🙏🏻😊
If he is buried in Holland, it's Margraten and I can assure you that a Dutch family takes extraordinary care of his grave and they are held in distinct and dedicated honor and appreciation.
“That’s a Great War uniform”
“Thanks”
Works either way, in my opinion.
His father was in World War 1
That a *Great* war uniform
At first I thought he was admiring the war uniform, by calling it "great", but then I realized he was referring to the "Great War".
Obsidian555 😂
Hugo Weaving's character is the context for the entire film. His suffering, his being part of the bloodiest battle in WW1, the fact he is barely holding on as a man and as a human being, makes his son's transformation (after almost killing his brother) and his steadfast holding to principle incredibly moving to watch. In the end, did not Desmond learn from his father? Amazing film.
It was definitely not one of the bloodiest out of the war lol
Samuel Khurram my great grandfather earned the bar on his dcm medal at the somme, sgt major john regan 1st battalion irish guards
Samuel Khurram respect man ✊🏻
Sorry bruh, nowhere near the bloodiest battle of WWI.
@@praetorxian So what boy, ever been in battle then you have no say. Blood is blood in war.
I watched this with my unit as a training day, resilience, hunt the good stuff, all that jazz.
The scene where they saluted the colonel (the judge) with a perfect salute and he just waved his hand up in response had us rolling in laughter, because that's how real officers actually salute in the army.
This movie was one of the accurate army movies.
Something that’s a very small detail in this scene but I still find incredibly powerful is look at Hugo Weaving’s face when he’s leaving the courtroom, he succeeded in helping Desmond be able to go into battle without a gun but at the same time he’s probably really torn up about it because he’s thinking to himself “By doing this I probably just put an end to my son’s life” Because like everyone else in the movie he was thinking that because he didn’t want to carry a gun that Desmond would be sure to die
I mean if you get convicted of disobeying orders at a court martial theres a chance you get shot anyway
Desmond had the most shocked look on his face seeing his own father (who was a drunk most of his life) walk in, speak up and defend him, especially after reading that letter.
He wasn't really a good dad or husband. He was an alcoholic, and it came from a lot of issues within him... at a time there had no help with veterans and ptsd. As Desmond said, "Our dad would beat us just cuz the sun came up."
But he still loved his son's and family though... even if he rarely showed it, like in this moment.
I wonder how many soldiers turned to alcoholic self-medication following their service? My WWI great-uncle took the final solution. I bought a house from from Vietnam vet; there was a mound of whisky bottles in the the woods. My son.... I pray he conqueres his demons. I will always stand in honor of our veterans.
With the world set on tearing itself apart, don't seem like such a bad thing to me to put a little bit of it back together
sung bong kim Best quote I've ever seen.
sung bong kim I love that sense
That’s one line I’ll never forget
I’m Dirty Dan he watched him say it so kinda does
Such a perfect delivery too. This is one of the reason why i kept coming back on watching this movie.
The way his father entered to protect him reminded me as how my father was always there to protect me. He has passed away in 11 March 2021. May his soul rest in peace and the Al Mighty raise his ranks in the paradise
This guy inspired me. I passed my interview for the Army. I just need to pass the medical exam and fitness exam. I hope I get in and if I do, I want to train as a medic to help wounded soldiers
Hey man mad respect. I hope you get to the army and help as much as you can. Thank you for your service in advanced. May God bless your soul❤️
I’m a former and recruiter and infantry drill sergeant. Let me know if you need anything.
Once Agent Smith made his entrance, you knew that things would get real.
**Deep voice while walking slowly towards you** Mr Anderson..
you have a choice
Take the ring, Mr Anderson.
Nice pun bro
not just agent smith but V fighting against the government violating the rights of his son
Is that the truly the way it works? You fight for your country. You lose so much that was dear to you, and then your done with it. The uniform's forgotten. You have no voice.
Aldin Ahmeti Yes that is truly the way it works. The American people do not care. Our medals mean nothing on a resume or even at a government office or in a court of law. All the stripes on our sleeves are imaginary to the world, and any idiot can just put on a uniform and parade around as a service member so says the courts that help imprison us just because it is convenient.
@@jmagana166 I respect, appreciate and thank you for your service. I also know for a fact that there are an incredible amount of people who feel the exact same way as I do.
Well, you become a political football.
Aldin Ahmeti
That is well quoted.
JMagana
I get you are disillusioned and angry at the world. This movie isn't about you - it's about the well named generation that fought in WW2 - and everyone who believes such patriotism is valid. If we don't uphold the value of the fight the greatest generation fought in WW2, no later generation has a claim to their pride. It's why the much maligned Boomers fought to remind people that it wasn't the military's fault that they fought in unpleasant and unwanted wars - Korea and Viet Nam. The military did it's job while handicapped at home. Many were drafted in that latter war, and did not want to be there - but they went and did their best only to come home to ridicule and hate by their own people. So yes now we have people like you that feel the American people do not care. Please be assured that while my generation yet breathes there are many Americans that do care about every one of our military. And i will also say I have faith in the future generations as well - those that hate the military now will some horrible day realize how important they are if we wish to keep our freedom - and how much they sacrifice to do so.
Please - no politics in this - its not about us. It's about our fathers.
@@jmagana166 That's bullshit. We had 3 massive bills to help veterans after the Great Recession. One for homelessness, one for health, and one for jobs. The public overwhelmingly supported all 3 of those bills. They were unanimously supported by every major veteran's rights group in the country.
They had a majority of support in Congress and a president willing to sign them into law. Not ONE of those bills made it to his desk, because Republicans filibustered all 3 of them to keep them from getting an up or down vote.
Don't blame 315 million Americans for the actions of the 50 million assholes who vote Republican.
The first half of this movie is amazing. Sure the last half is good too and quite the spectacle, but the story behind how it all happened is truly inspiring.
The last 25 seconds gave me goosebumps. What a honourable brave man doss was
His face at "Twice decorated..."speaks volumes. Yes, he was decorated for his service, but he feels no pride about it...
I think he lost so much during the war and the horror of it forever scared him he didnt care about medals anymore.
What does twice decorated mean?
@@Ryan-jb4nm we bestow many ribbons and medals of honor and bravery on our men,why ? they deserve it,purple hearts and so on,when you are in the horror of war and see men you serve with going down,you react,the ribbons and medals become part of the uniform,my father had many,he never spoke about what he did,that was his greatest honor among men,god knows what he did,he came back,thank you god
@@Ryan-jb4nm means that you had two situations where you were recognized for the same award. A brother of mine was kept long past our rotation home date. He was given the v for Valor medal during our deployment. During his extended deployment he rushed into a building taking out an enemy machine gun nest. He was awarded the V for Valor again. So he was twice decorated
They call them heroes, but we will never understand the horrors he probably endured to earn that honor
This scene always gets me because, for as violent and gruesome as World War Two became, the First World War can only be described as Hell on Earth. The deaths and genocide of World War Two may never be matched but the way every soldier in the First World War was stripped of their humanity and fed to the gunfire of the enemy with more concern given to their weapons and ammo then their own lives is almost impossible to comprehend. It was amazing to see the survivors of that great conflict represented so well by such an amazing actor.
Yes, I keep watching this because of Hugo Weaving His character just blows me away everytime. As I said in an earlier statement, his character really underpins the movie. It is his horror that underlies the drama of Drsmond Doss' decisions. The opening scene, where Thomas Doss is basically awash in sorrow at the graveyard? Wow/
The Great War was a conflict the likes of which no one had ever seen before. The world that marched off for national pride in 1914 was not the same world that emerged from the trenches in 1918. In truth, though, I am one of those who has come to believe that the Great War didn't end in 1918, but truly ended in 1945. For over thirty years, the world tore itself apart through conflict, Revolution, genocide, disease, famine and all manner of horrors. Hundreds of millions of people, soldiers and civilians alike, payed the ultimate price for the birth of the modern world we know today. May their sacrifice never be forgotten.
@@Isildun9 Well said mate. Very well said.
The methods used between the 2 world wars weren't the same. But magnitude of hell and death experienced by Germans and Russians on the Russian Front in WW2 is comparable to the suffering in WW1.
The US wasn't involved in WWI like in II, Korea, or Vietnam. The worst battles of WWI were Canada, GB, France mainly. The Somme, Verdun, Passchendaele, and Spring Offensive were before we entered. Passchendaele was truly hell on Earth. All their sacrifices deserve respect.
I love the duality of sam Worthington and vince Vaughn character. They both like dawes but they also believe his nonviolent philosophy will get him and others killed. I see the conflict in them and it resonates with me as someone who deals with internal conflict. So real. Incredible acting and worthy of accolades.
Watching this portion of the movie brought tears to my eyes. I am so saddened by the fact that I believe there are very few people living in America today who would have done what this incredible man did. We need more heroes like him today before it is too late and America is lost.
Hell I was told by everyone that I wouldn't even make it 1 month into basic training because I was seen as a whimpy pushover. They all were VERY shocked to see me back home in full uniform after finishing training and many of them actually said that they were wrong about me and congratulated me.
If your spirit and conviction is strong enough, you can prove that you are worthy enough to join and do what you can do to help. Unfortunately that same mentality is not shared anymore, just like you said. People all see the military as barbaric and would rather do anything else in their lives. It's sad that we live that way.
The moment you realize Red Skull is SPiderman's dad.
arosequartz yesssss!!!!
You forgot Agent Smith in between those. ^_^
...and the oldest Corporal in the Army apparently
😱
bluehavencd thats what i was thinking
What his father did for him was amazing, I know that their relationship hadn't been good for sometime so this had to be great
You overgrown children and your daddy issues smh
This scene and the prior scene where his father asks the secretary to see his former company commander shows the respect, even reverence, shown those who fought at Belleau Woods, even more than 20 years after the battle. Belleau Woods was a transformative event in the history of the U.S. Military and the Marine Corps. Both scenes so well done where the secretary and the judge go from dismissive to respect in a moment.
This might be the best scene in the movie.
"God gave life, it's was not mine to take." God this movie is so good.
religious sheep
@BarbarossaBMW88ϟϟ says the ignorant, deluded nobody
@@scam very ironic isn't it?
@@neow6289 you don't know what that means clearly
@@zaharahahmad5156 religion is a scam
Isn't it ironic that his dad saved his life and career and Desmond nearly killed him earlier in his life? He spared his dad's life and his dad saved his son's.
And his son saved so many...
not really.
That part was made up for the movie Doss came forward when he saw the original script but understand it was for the movie
Shame it didn’t actually happen
@@JRMAV1 Whether it did or did not, I don't know. What I do know is that CO's were treated without mercy in the military and by the general public.
Signed: Brigadier- General Musgrow ' War Services Commander
Washington DC.
when the judge notice 5:53 that this man who wrote the letter outrank him and all officers together in this room,that is powerfull.
Damn i got goosebumps on my goosebumps
Not quite. Not any old General who outranked anyone else could just order a prosecution nullified by interpreting the constitution. Otherwise it would be very difficult to enforce any law in the military. What actually happened here was the fact that at that time, the U.S. Army was undergoing a strategic reorganization. Pretty much any command (60 some odd at that time) that the Chief of Staff of the Army didn't want directly reporting to him got shoved off into (what later became) 'War Services Command'. This put 58 some-odd Commands which did not function as primary war-fighting units under the umbrella of The War Services Command, making whomever commanded it the second most influential soldier in the A/AAG, and the fifth most influential Commander under the Commander in Chief. One of those Commands happened to be the Judge Advocate. Making General Musgrow, in effect, the second most Senior Legal Advisor of the Army and Army Air Corps and the top eschelon commander of the Judges and their prosecutors. His interpretation of the Constitution was Army legal policy.
Then what's the rank of the judge? What I know a brigadier general is senior to a Colonel or naval captain, and junior to a Major General or rear admiral.
@@maxdecphoenix okay I am confused now, so is War service commander rank or function? I assume he is general with that function or?
@@war_correspondent i think the judge’s rank is colonel
@@billyjoe8185 Yes, the judge is a colonel. Brigadier General is one star, Major General has 2, Lieutenant General is 3 and General is 4. This is not about the rank of the writer of the letter, but the law in question. It was unlawful for the colonel who brought the charges to try to compel Doss to carry a weapon and bringing him up on charges for disobeying an order for refusing to do so. Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice a member cannot be compelled to obey an unlawful order. This is why the soldiers who participated in My Lai Massacre could not claim they were following orders, since those orders were deemed unlawful. It is a service member's duty to refuse an unlawful order. Doss exercised that right and the letter confirms his right and the judge is forced to rule in his favor, in light of the expert testimony, within the letter. The rank of the correspondent has no direct bearing in the decision, it is a rule of law. The rank does have a bearing in reminding the judge that the court will have to answer for its decision, as every court martial has to answer to scrutiny from above.
Such a fantastic movie and true story. Thank you Private Doss for your service. Such a great movie and fantastic cast
Amongst the many things I took away from this movie is what a great actor Hugo Wallace Weaving is. In everyone of his scenes you could tell that he was a man haunted by the horrors of WW1.
The "War to End All Wars" ended nothing. Instead it devastated many human beings and their families. Unnecessarily as well.
@@zagorith14 Well, WW1 helped to end monarchies all across Europe. Nowadays, just to think about the ideals of monarchies, the "divine right" and some other crap... mankind needed to put an end to this madness. Same goes for fascism in WW2. It sucks that people in power will force the issue and rage war to not lose their privilege
Or Lord Elrond was just tired of the human capacity for war
@@RRRRRRRRR33 Not really and the divine right had gone out the window a long time ago. Russia turned into a communist dictatorship while Poland became an independent nation on 11/11/1918.
@@RRRRRRRRR33 I’d rather have monarchy than some of the stupid ideals being pandered.
The Colonel took one look at his medals and realized that this man is wearing a Silver Star, and a Croix de Guerre, designating that this is a man to be taken seriously.
Made me cry realizing that his dad, wearing that uniform that he had grown to despise was an absolute way of saying, without saying it, how much he loved his son.
The medal on the right looks like a Croix de Guerre, but the ribbon is the wrong color. The WWI medals had a ribbon with alternating wide green stripes and narrow red stripes. Anyone know the reason? Also, does anyone know what the center medal is?
@@George-ip7cw is that the campaign medal? Victory medal for ww1. Angel holding sword and all. Bar across ribbon would be some sort of award, like how the silver star citation was till the Silver Star medal was created and then upgraded upon request?
@@George-ip7cw That's the WW1 Victory Medal, with 2 campaign clasps indicating he participated in 2 different battles or campaigns, he mentioned Belleau Wood, so that's one of them...
@@Mark40930 he also mentioned Lys
For those who don't know, the Croix de Guerre is a french award given only to service members who took part in the campaign in France during WW1/2. What makes it special is the fact that it is one of very few foreign awards that are officially autorized on our military uniforms! In the corps, to this day the 5th and 6th Marine Regiments are allowed to wear that cross as a unit award. Unit awards are not worn in the form of a ribbon or a medal, but rather a band-like ornament going over the shoulder and under the arm
the disdain in his voice...
"twice decorated, I see."
"Yes sir."
He acknowledges he lived by luck when his friends and other good men die
Pvt. Doss: The definition of courage and heroism under fire. And what makes this even more amazing it's a true story. To all that served and are serving now you are heroes. Thank you for your service.
This scene gives me chills. In a few days it will be 7 years since my dad passed. This is the epitome of fatherhood, he may not have liked the choices Desmond made, but hell hath no fury like a real man protecting and supporting his son.
The speech of the father really got me all choked up.
“With the world so set on tearing itself apart, it don't seem like such a bad thing to me to want to put a little bit of it back together.”
Truly inspiring.
That point when a son realizes not only that his dad has his back, but also, his dad knows people and doesn't brag on it.
That point when you realize this entire scene is completely made up and never happened
@@BoxStudioExecutive yes, but still a good scene.
@@mikehilbert9349 Not really, it assumes every single person in that room is totally fucking incompetent at their job, starting from the defense and prosecution lawyers who don't know the law and the judge who knows even less.
This was nothing less than some pathetic attempt to put in some stupid bullshit scene where the government is out to suppress people's freedom of religion
Hugo weaving kills it every time he steps into the screen in every movie. One my favorite actors
04:06: Desmond makes a barely-noticeable head-shake, silently telling his father not to interfere.
nah im sure he just twitched
Unless he twitches by shaking his head left to right - that was a definite negative head shake.
@@julieenslow5915 his head only moved to the left a tiny bit that was definitely a twitch
he was indeed impressed and surprised, he did not know anything about his dad going to help him, people has that reaction, he was in disbelief
nothing there...
Andrew Garfield is such a damn good actor, he deserves an oscar
He got robbed that year. Shape of water, my ass!
I love any film that tells a story of these heroes, but Mel really just did a fantastic job with this one.
I would take up arms for fear. This man - the real one - said he would go into combat unarmed and help. That's courage. That's something a man would do.
@@prestonhong4850 i think it elucidates that people don't actually buy into their religion, just the parts they like. They find legalese, lawyerly ways to 'jew out' of damnation. If Doss actually believed in Hell, he would fear being stuck there. And if he feared being stuck there, he wouldn't make cavilier, arbitrary interpretions about the commandments; rationalizing that 'oh well it just says thou shall not kill, it doesn't say thou shall not assist people who do the killing'.
As a human and a medic, Doss is grade A. But as a theologian i think he falls just like all the others with the pick-n-mix religious philosophy.
@@maxdecphoenix 🤦♂️
@@maxdecphoenix *The movie isn't focusing on his personal beliefs nor the way he sees them, it's about his story. The story of how 75 men, more or less, were saved by a single willing soul when they should've died. When all the rest run away, he was there to remain and help those who were still straggling.*
*If the battlefield was hell on Earth, then Doss was like an angel. Picking up who had still a chance.*
@@SCP--fj2jr the movie only exists because of doss' religious philosophy and how he views it. How stupid to try to say otherwise
@@maxdecphoenix
*Then if that were so, then what is the reason of the whole story concerning the part of where he saved the men? If that were so, then the movie would lose it's meaning, and not many people would be able to enjoy it.*
*Sorry if i get confused unto what you are saying.*
Pvt. Doss sure had a good father help him beat the case.
Francisco Rodriguez He wasn't a good one.
But this shows he got Better.
Bvten vzej bolohg bn
Lmao did you even watch the movie
I think the pun here was "beat"
tias88 yeah lol
What makes me burst out crying everytime is the phrase: "Lord, help me get one more, just one more"...and then 200 rescues later "just one more"
~Those who honor God, him will He honor~
I was an army medic. Proud veteran. I revere Desmond-and I am nothing compared to who he was. Respect.
My God. I'm 59 years old, terminal emphazema and just "now" find out about this wonderful HERO! Puts him up there with Sgt. Alvin York, you think?
Are you really 59 years old?
I'm 12
@@The-ey2im lool
its been 2 years sir please say you are still with us. as a smoker guys like you shake me to the core and i pray i can shake this evil habbit before its to late.
@@hardwirecars still here, struggle everyday, I do vape and have good doctors at SLU in St. Louis, Mo everyday is hard work, you must stop.
Keep fighting the good fight Mark. I never smoked but the Marines make allot of good alcoholics. Trying to quit that as well.
Hugo weaving deserve an Oscar. For his performance on this movie. They even nominated him. Shame on the academy.
Who won instead?
They didn't nominate him for an Oscar
@Goettschwan No were talking about best supporting actor
@Goettschwan it's a pretty good movie
He deserved that but they wouldn't do that
"You are free to run into the hellfire battle without a single weapon to protect yourself"
That line makes Doss so badass 🔥
One thing that I've only noticed after watching this clip here is that the Judge refers to Thomas as "Sir" when he first speaks to him, telling him that he's no longer a member of the military. But after listening to him pour his heart out about his and his son's love for their country and constitution, he says thank you "corporal", as if he's changed his mind and is recognizing him as a soldier.
Just a little detail that I found quite telling
who else here had a full-blown grin on their face when he read that letter
satmtcak me
me!
Me
satmtcak I was like haha you just got overruled
our rights are carved in stone,and no one is going to shit on them,no one,nobody can see into a mans heart,this boy DOSS wanted to serve ,others ran for their miserable lives,its always been that way
One of the Best Movies i watched and this Scene undoubtedly is the BEST one in the Movie. Great acting by Everyone. Thanks Mel Gib.
“With the world so set on tearing itself apart, it don’t seem like such a bad thing to me to want to put a little bit of it back together.”
That line is so gracefully put and Andrew Garfield perfectly portrays the emotion. Oohhh, the acting is phenomenal.
The Red Skull and Spider Man in an alternate universe
Nasty disrespectful salute there Judge, but after the war, I BET he snapped to, when Doss came walking down the path wearing his Medal of Honor!!!
I watch this scene often. I believe it’s one of the most perfectly written and directed scenes in movie history. I cry every time I watch it.
I am an Adventist too. Desmond Doss is an inspiration to me. He inspires me to stay faithful and true.
I will not carry a weapon myself.
This movie gives me goosebumps so many times
“There are many causes I would die for. There is not a single cause I would kill for.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
Which is quite pussy when you think about it. Sure.. not fighting a war for old men sending young to die.. but self defense? To stop another from harming someone.. a myriad of reasons to NOT follow that laughable belief.
It's easy to find things to die for. It's more challenging to find things worth living for (Babylon 5)
Gandhi's message was taken from Jesus. Like Jesus, he considered life to be sacred. To be willing to kill is to kill a bit of your soul. To remove that sacred part of you that values life. Gandhi was smart enough to realize that you can't sacrifice one losing another, and strong enough to know that he could sacrifice his own life before using his own hands to take someone else's. It's respect for life that allows for peace and growth. It's the lack of it that foments war, and eagerness to destroy others. And as an atheist, I don't invoke Jesus nor the sacredness of life lightly or ironically. It's a simple philosophy that helps us understand and separate humanity from inhumanity. Gandhi was one of the most human individuals to exist in modern times.
As a Indian myself I can say 8 out of 10 Indian citizen hate Gandhi for his thoughts. He was a coward who delay Indian independence from 1920-1925 to 1947. The Indian national Congress party was founded by Britishers in response to 1857 rebellion and Gandhi was the center of all of these in his peak. He was the lapdog of the crown.
If you wish for your loved ones to face these horrors that has conquered your courage you have my permission to flee
- Dot Pixis
“With the world so set on tearing itself apart, doesn’t seem like such a bad thing to me to want to put a little bit of it back together”
This is the best war movie in my opinion I’ve watched a few of them in this one is by far my favorite
I love how his dad hugs his wife. One of the few moments in the movie he wasn't angry or hitting someone.
Phillip Quast! LOVE that man's voice. Great movie. It should have won for best picture in 2017. Brilliant acting all through by everyone.
Hugo Weaving should of gotten an Oscar nom for this performance, one of his best!!
3:30 this is what we all need right now.
"With the world so set on tearing itself apart, it don't seem such a bad thing for me to put a bit of it back together."
*Still relevant today*
I had goosebumps watching this scene.this scene is so strong and having so much of emotions that anyone can feel proud of being a human.
I love everything about this scene. What makes me sad is that, at the end of the day, the two Doss speeches and almost every word in the letter, the only thing that truely flipped it is only the "Signed by Brigadier General Musgrove" sad truth...
Hard for them to really continue with a court Martial when a Brigadier General sends a letter telling you, in kind words, to shut up and deal with it.
Was this scene even accurate to the real event? Did dos get a court-martial and was it stopped by a letter signed by the general?
@@moxxiiscarlett7141 My point is that if it continued it'd have continued with Doss being found guilty regardless of the argument he put forward, the only reason it went the other way around is because they were overuled. Although this being a realistic depiction of the world it's just sad that moral based opinions and arguments do not prevail was my point.
@@yumenokira7595 i already knew that when I watched the movie. I didn't say anything against your point or not "get" it. I was making a small joke.
@@allaansnackbar4269 No, he wasn't court-martialled in real life. In real life, Doss did end up getting into an argument with a captain named Cunningham who told him only those men who participated in rifle training were allowed passes to go into town. After Doss told him that he didn't have to touch a weapon and that it was stated in his file, the captain tried to humiliate him by forcing a rifle into his hands in front of the men, and told Doss that if he refused to handle to weapon, he would be court-martialled, but Doss refused to do so and deliberately let the weapon fall to ground. As Cunningham started telling Doss that he would now be court-martialled, another officer stepped in and told Cunningham to back off and respect what was written right there in his record. Cunningham relented and gave Desmond the pass, but it didn't stop him from continuing to make Desmond's life a living hell.
The scene with the letter is also fictional. In reality, Thomas Doss contacted the chairman of the church's War Service Commission in Washington, Carlyle B. Haynes and explained Desmond's situation, and Haynes made a call to Desmond's regimental commander, Colonel Stephen S. Hamilton, asking if it was necessary for him to come investigate the situation with Doss. The colonel told him no and that they would straighten things out. Desmond still had to wait for his furlough, but as a result of his father's actions, he was given a 3-day pass to go home and see his brother Harold before he returned to the Navy to go overseas.
"Mr Smith" has finally defeated two soldiers guarding a door.
It's a shame that the uniform is so quickly forgotten. As someone who has served in the military and Law Enforcement for over 18 years... I feel that.
One of the best movies I ever seen in my whole life! The characters,plot,real history it's just so fricking beautiful.
Man what a great answer
Desmond Daws is just a great man of Christ
Shade You add input that nobody really cares about.
Shade whats wrong with being religious
@Shade @1971 tallica Everyone's entitled to their own opinions and beliefs, you can't convince them otherwise🤷♂️ I wish everyone appreciated the Lord and His teachings but we're all imperfect. (:
Is it Doss?
It’s Doss, not Daws
5:25 Dude lookin like he trevor in a cutscene 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The part what is the heavies for me that his father who has struggled with his actions and survival guilt of WW1 since he came home took it out on his boys as a mean drunk found the power to get back in the uniform that he is terrified of to help his son make the same mistake he did. That is true love overcoming your own dread to help your loved ones even if you are opposed to it.
This scene alone makes me cry.Damn.What a masterpiece.
2020!! I still couldn't get over it. I could never get over it. I salute him and each single man who went to the battlefield.
Never thought I would get to see spider man , red skull and Jake sully in the same room
"The time of Elves has passed, Master Elrond. Get out of this court".
Such a powerful line in such a simple yet powerful scene. Thank you, Mel.
Just think If this man was discharged those 75 men he saved would of lost their lives and he never would of been honored with the Medal of Honor and wouldn’t of know this story.
And if those 75 men never went on to live then they would never had children, who wouldn't have had children on so on until the present days generation. And just for an average of 2 children per person after 3 generations thats 600 lives to date that would never have been had he never gone to war.
Including 2 of them sitting on the side of the prosecution.
This was perhaps the most touching movie i have ever seen. The acting environment and sound design are all top notch.
0:45 It's that evil Android from Upgrade.
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for a split second i thought he was complimenting his uniform
Lol "That's a great war uniform."
He was. And recognizing it for what it was. And complimenting and recognizing AND respecting the man inside of it.
@@Incadazant01 nope
@@AngryMaguire He was going by what the military decided. Just because the man follows the rules does not mean he does not care
It easily leans towards a reference to how WWI is also known, but it's fine with both meanings (unlike 'either').
He has a Silver Star Medal, WWI Victory Medal, and I think the other medal is a variation of the Croix de Guerre
4:57
A lot of great actors in this movie. Great cast
The compassion and loyalty Desmond Ross gave was what a person with a heart would do!
I like the combination of pride and shame that the father expresses when the judge says "twice decorated, I see". He's probably thinking about his lost friends
description box says everything.
really great movie, i don't think missing such a movie is fine
The statement that "I was fighting to defend the constitution" is so apt today. Interesting that these words are used in a movie involving Vince Vaughn and Mel Gibson.