Is It The Same Iron? TaylorMade P770 Iron VS TaylorMade P790 Iron
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2020
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I compare the new TaylorMade P770 Iron against the very popular TaylorMade P790 Iron looking at the different in looks and also performance all measured using TrackMan.
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I made the decision to trade my P760s to the P770s and finally played my first round with them yesterday and loved them. I owned the P790 before the P760s and I just couldn’t get used to the size but still wanted more distance and forgiveness. The P770s are very similar to the P760s size with a lot of added benefits for my game. I picked up at least 8 yards but didn’t lose spin or stopping power.
I'm waiting for my 790s to arrive from Taylormade and while I wait really enjoyed this particular video. Very comprehensive and just what I was looking for. Or course I only hit the 790s during the (very comprehensive) fitting but right now I feel like I made the prefect choice.
I bought the 2019 P790’s earlier this year and when I first saw the new P770’s I felt immediately envious. Love the look and the higher lofts of the P770’s but definitely not worth the upgrade for me. If your irons are a few years old and you’re looking to upgrade however, then the P770’s would definitely be my choice.
Michael, I remember that you were a big fan of the original P770. The new P770 is the same size, identical offset, and slightly strongly lofts (0.5 degrees) in some irons, but not across the board. I would be interested in seeing a comparison between the original P770's and the new 770's. Because the specs are so similar, it would be interesting to see the influence of hollow body and foam vs a non-hollow bodied iron of nearly identical spec.
I will stick with the 790 s
I hit this high enough and achieve 6500 spin from the 7 iron. Very good irons and a big improvement in my opinion from the old p790
I don’t think I would upgrade, I like the forgiveness of the P790’s
lots of test say that P770 are the same forgiveness
Hey Mike great job as usual I game the p790 s I wouldn't upgrade only because IAM not a good enough ball striker the smaller head ,,lower lofts I believe a mishit with the p770 you'll get punished!!! 17 HC can't afford that lol still haven't broken 80 but when I got game this p790 are very nice ,I just sold the older P770s and I'll tell ya what a difference in looks talyormade has done a beautiful job with the new p770 absolutely stunning ,, maybe in couple years I can move on to a semi forged blade !!! Ty great job !!!!
Thanks for the review Michael. Perfect. The P790’s look too chunky for my liking but I like their performance. Maybe I’ll bend the jP770’s as you suggest.
From address the 790 has a tad more square looking toe but that was all I could see. I couldn’t notice the 0.1 ~ 0.2 mm difference in offset either. Both top lines are thin enough for me. I need to check the soles again but I bet they’re very close.
For most people without the speed of Michael, I would have thought that breaking the set at 7i would work by carrying P770 7i-PW and carrying P790 6i & 7i but strengthen the loft a little (maybe only by 0.5 degree), that way your P790 7i would be the equivalent of the P770 6i
TM they have a fitter chart for combo on the P Series, google it
I have both P790's and P770's. I've played my P790's all summer but I just had to have the 770's! They're so good, the P790's are going up for sale!
I ordered the P770s but having a bit of buyer's remorse. Wondering if I should've just gotten the P790s instead. What do you like more about the P770?
I have both the 790s and the MCs (which I believe has around the same lofts as the 770s?) and I found that the stronger loft on the 790s only added around 5 to 7 yards on center sweet spot shots for the shorter irons....
Sold my P790s for the P770s, had a great 3 yrs with them, but really looking forward to forging a relationship with the 770s (5-Pw), and with me selling the 790s (4-Aw), I've only had to fork out £350 for these... bingo...
Good feeling isn’t it...hope they work for ya
Do you find the kbs 130x softer feeling than x100? For me I found the KBS much better feeling. X100 felt crazy stiff for me. Fantastic content as usual Michael!
Would be good if you could add land angle to the review data on the videos
Love the videos Michael, thanks a ton for putting out useful information!
One thing I don't understand in comparisons though, if there's such a different in the loft, then why not compare an 8 iron of the 790 to a 7 of the 770?
They're just far too expensive. Just can't justify the price on these, especially when the JPX 921 will be a good £400 cheaper per set
golf is expensive
Now, bend either iron so it has the same loft and off course have the same length of the shaft and we'll call it a day. After all, the P790 7 iron is pretty much a P770 6,5 iron. I also am a firm believer in the old way of benchmarking ballflights in using the 5 iron instead of 7 iron. Both in terms of spin and what kind of smash factor we get from it. You play darts with a 7 iron in modern golf, while the 5 iron is actually useable from the tee as well. If dispersion is a thing of importance (which it should be for any golfer), any golfer under 7 hcp should consider a blade or at the very least an MC as their scoring irons. These two sets should in no way be combined as they are for two different types of swings. Now, if TaylorMade sold the P790 as Ping does with different lofts, things would be different. Just my .02 cents.
Can you test the P7MC vs MP20mmc or
JPX tour 921
Just bought them as a split set, p-7 770 and 6-4 790. I‘m sure they will perform and this with HCP 14. best irons played so far. Just fearing a bit of a gap between 7 and 6, but let’s see. I‘m sure I‘ll love the. Upgrading from callaway x-14 pro. Think they‘ll boost me...
For the gapping, wouldn't the set fit better if you kept either two 7/6 irons of each model?
Are you happy with the combo would you change anything?
TM will fix the gap
Any reviews after owning the combo?
It is interesting as this is the first sign of a manufacturer actually increasing loft instead just pushing the "my 7 iron goes further than yours" mentality.
I just got fit and got the 770s with upgrade steel fiber graphite shafts. At $225 per club this better work!
Did it work
No it didn’t. I sold them on E bay and took a $800 bath😵💫
Would a p760 vs P770 (2020) comparison be more apt? Similar lofts , size and top line. Is the tech in the 770s better than the 760s, especially in the long irons
Loft and Looks basically. Did you feel the 770 was softer?
How about putting both 7s in the bag as part of a combo set? Seems it would work out
Hi Michael, thanks for a great video. Are you testing the clubs with the same shaft, as I feel that is important factor in the data for the comparisons between clubs.
Regards
Chris
Absolutely
9:14
Good video bud. I still have my original 2017 p790 irons. I chose them as I wanted better performance and forgiveness from a traditional looking iron. Yes, I did find the lofts a bit strong for my liking, so I had the lofts weakened by a couple of degrees by a professional fitter. (ie 7 iron from 30.5 to 32.5.) They now give me the gapping yardage numbers and the confidence that I want.
Why pay £1300 for less forgiveness from a smaller headed iron? It’s just a matter of cosmetics and looks as the P770’s will not be as forgiving as the P790’s. You can see that by your dispersion. It doesn’t make sense to me! What makes good sense, is do what I did for a fraction of the cost to your P790’s. Weaken them or just leave them alone and enjoy probably the best iron Taylormade ever made, as every new club in this range are judged against the P790 every time and it holds up against anything else out there.
Calling the P790s the best iron Taylormade ever made is fucking ridiculous. Every club works different for different people. Obviously a low handicapper is not going to think the P790s are close to the best iron Taylormade ever made. The p770 gives you much better feel and doesn't have the flyers the P790s are known for.
And you really think the fucking P7MC or P7MB is compared to the freaking P790s and doesn't hold up haha? If you are a good ball striker you definitely don't want the p790s. And actually in most comparisons the same thing is said. P770s are better for better players and p790s are better for not as good players. AT the end of the day the p790sare basically a cool looking game improvement iron
I take it the 790 are the most forgiving out the 2 due to the bigger size ?
As a 9 HCP I just don´t feel comfortable with the huge gaps in between the P790. It´s also really hard to get a good yardage gap towards your specialty wedges. Also I don´t feel like most fairly better players need that much help with the 9, 8 and 7 irons. As a split set I think these clubs make a tone of sense though.
9Hcp, you will play 4.5.6 P790 7 8 9 PW P770 with the 4 5 6 7 loft adjusted following the TM Combo chart
Played almost all season with new PXG gen 2 P irons but felt something was missing. Got fitted during a TM demo for P790's, and hit them great. Was all set to try them, then TM announced the 770. Long story short, I drank too much one night and ordered the P770 5-W with the same spec as the P790. Either way stay tuned......Either PXG or TM 770 going on eBay soon. Ha ha. Thanks for the video. They arrived next week!!!!
So you liked the p790 more than pxg?
@@suprand I lthink I liked the heavier shaft in the p790. The PXG is a great soft iron and I'm upset I didn't get fit with the right shaft. They are both similar feeling clubs with the PXG being a bit more plush and softer. Similar distance. My 770s arrive Monday!
Marc Caruso I’m playing the p790s in a 120 shaft (project x stiff )p770 and pxg caught my eye not because I don’t like the p790 I like them a lot. Just like trying what’s out there
Taylormade has provided a handy P700 combo guide with suggested loft adjustments depending on how you want to mix/match. Can be found on this article towards the bottom of the page. www.golfwrx.com/624040/taylormade-p770-distance-precision-redefined/
How does the new P770 differ from the older model? If possible I would be interested in a head to head between those.
like the p760??
I game the old p770. I too would like to see the difference. The p760 is not as chunky as the old p770
I love the look of the P770s. It counts silly but if I hadn’t just bought a new set of irons then these would be in the bag just on looks alone 😂
Michael would you consider adding descent angle to your numbers you show?
I’ll try and remember....
@@MichaelNewtonGolf thank you sir
How much does a split set cost P790 4-6 iron P770 7-Pw?
Hi Mike, which set of the new range of TaylorMade irons would you suggest is best for a Mid/High handicap player??
P770 or P790
Michael Newton Golf
Cheers Mike, I do like the look of the P770, going for a fitting end of the month so might also try the new Mizuno Forged irons as well and see how I get on...
I would love the P770s in the 790 lofts. Im a 790 player at the moment and do love them, but I would be tempted by the P770s, but I do need the extra 10 yards per club. Do you get more feedback from the 770s. If I had a complaint about the 790s its that I don't know how far its going till it lands
I was thinking of it myself. Strengthen the 5 iron to 24° then gap at 4° ~ 5° the rest of the way down. The P770 5i is 25.5° stock and the P790 5i is 23.5°
In a bizarre way, the increased loft (which should be for better players) gets exposed at your swing speeds because it results in the ball with too high a peak height to control - i.e. 120 vs 100 feet - thus you can see why given hot faces manufacturers decreased lofts to avoid moonballs. I was encouraged about the P770s until I saw this test - it reminds me of the 1st gen Titleist AP2s which had tungsten low down in the PW, 9 & 8 and these irons flew too high to control for the Pros - and that is the thing they fixed in the 2nd gen AP2s
Tour Pro’s have been cranking lofts in their irons for years
too high? the goal of scoring irons is to land and stop
Wow. You are miss informed sir
I have hit both, not the same. P790 is a game improvement iron compared to 770, much easier to hit, much farther, more noticeable hollow -techy sound. P770 is a lot smaller heal to toe.
they bothj have the same tech
In my personal testing with specced up 770s vs 790 I found that it was very impractical. Having a distance iron in that kind of a package just produced numbers all over the place. If you are a good enough ball striker to want a club that small, you probably don’t need jacked up lofts and speed foam.
Have 790s and while 770s are so sexy I cannot upgrade and shouldnt
The P770 should be compared against the P760. I have P790 and P760 and I would say the 790 7 iron equals the 760 6 iron.
P760 discontinued now so current range 790,770,MC,mb
@@MichaelNewtonGolf I realize the P760 is no longer in production. I think some P760 owners are wondering if it is worth it to get the P770 since the lofts are very similar.
Why would they put out a players club with so much height? Not what a player would want to see?
A better player can easily knock the flight down as and when required
It sounds like somebody stepped on a frog at 2:16
Loads of frogs in Penrith 🐸
It’s misleading comparing two 7 irons when the lofts are different.
P770 MB vs MP-20 ???
Say whatever, his ball striking and dispersion was much better with the 790's.
Why didn’t you compare the same lofts??? There is a full club difference! If you don’t have full sets of both then say so. Compare the build technology not the number stamped on the bottom. Watch TXG and learn.