ARE TAYLORMADE P790 IRONS DEAD!? SHOULD YOU BUY TAYLORMADE P770'S?!
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- ARE TAYLORMADE P790 IRONS DEAD!? SHOULD YOU BUY TAYLORMADE P770'S?! SHOULD YOU BUY TAYLORMADE P770 IRONS OR TAYLORMADE P790 IRONS!? Taylormade have just launched their new 2020 irons including the Taylormade P770, Taylormade P7MC and Taylormade P7MB... but which irons should you buy? What are the best irons of 2020? What are the longest irons of 2020? The best irons for mid handicap golfers? The best irons for high handicap golfers? The best mid handicap golf clubs? Best high handicap golf clubs? It’s got to be one of the Taylormade P770 vs Taylormade P790 irons right? Let’s do it... and let’s do it now!
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I changed for the 790's and I love them. Long, Forgiving, but looks good in the bag and offers feedback and a great feeling at impact. + I can outdrive my friends with the 4 iron which is a beautiful ego booster before making a double bogey :)
It's a 3 iron with a 4 stamped on it.
Golf buddy of mine just got the p790’s and I was well impressed! So impressed that I just had a fitting for new irons!! It wasn’t even close p770 with the kbs tour stiff 120 was clearly the club for me! Tried the titleist t100 and t100s, tried the p7mc and the p770.. I came from ap2 714’s and I’ll always be fond of those but.. onwards and upwards!
My whole bag was titleist and I wanted the t100 but the looks, feel and forgiveness of p770 was enough for me to put them in the bag!.. yesterday
P790 was too far for me and I didn’t like the shaft options I tried but it’s easy to see how some could love them they are nothing short of revolutionary in my opinion.. it’s a new class
Still got my first edition p790 irons and I love them.They took me from 15 down to 7 in 5 months along with my exo 7 putter.
I have the P790's. The shaft fit for me made a world of difference to how they performed. Absolutely love them, best move I've made, I'm enjoying golf again after just about giving up! Taylormade are making some fantastic irons nowadays. I recommend anyone looking for new irons to try them and I'm sure they will be impressed.
Thank you for that comparison yes I definitely would like to see that comparison outside hitting into a green. I would like to see how quickly they stop when traveling at the speed and distance.
I tried, tested and was fitted for the P790's just after lockdown was eased and they are fantastic. I play off a 7 hcp and I love them.
Such a great incite, and explentions of your feelings of your different views, always love your video's. Although I could never own something that's so new it's still nice to see people play with nice equipment to maximize there game
I just tested both of them today. 770 was in my opinion looking really awesome, but unfortunately a touch less forgiving than the 790... and forgiveness is what i need from my irons. From the distance perspective, 790 is slightly longer, and the feel and confidence were better. I just made the order for the full set :-) I am very far from 190 carry
Mid Handicapper. Got fitted for 790’s last year and have absolutely loved them. They are forgiving and still provide enough stopping spin for the greens. It always will be what’s best for each golfer though. Good video.
Went in to get fitted for the t100s, looked and swung the 770s love them and bought them
P770 is right up my alley. If I hadn’t just bought the Titleist T100-S I’d be taking a long look at these!
Great comparison!
Would love you to do this kind of review with the new mizuno jpx919/921 forged if you’ll be getting them! Love this type of comparison!
Just got fitted for the 790 today and they swing and hit like a wet dream. Fell in love right away. I did try out the Mizuno Pro 225 but as soon as my fitter handed me it the first thing I said was the head felt heavy. 790 I was very consistent even mis-hits were great. Pro 225 mis-hits were awful but if I did get a good swing I smacked it well but no better than the 790. But the good swings were 1 outta 5 with 225. Now the wait for my order which I was told 3 weeks.
Thanks for the evaluation, for me performance trumps everything always & keeps it simple because I can measure performance.
I was fittwd for the P790s this spring. I really like them. I dont care for stronger lofts. I prefer more traditional lofts. I may consider doing a split split set with the P770s and P790. P790 4-6 and P770 7-pw
Great head to head and I would love to see you take them out on the course and do the head to head there. I got fitted for the P790’s last year and I absolutely love them, I went for them because now I’m in my 50’s I wanted something a bit more forgiving with a bit more length
I just got fitted and ordered the P770’s. I hit the P790’s as well and they just felt a little firmer to me. Both great, but the P770’s felt softer and I was getting more spin on them, most likely due to the bit more loft. I don’t think anyone can go wrong with either. It just depends on what you are after. Distance/forgiveness- P790, some distance/some forgiveness in a smaller head size-P770.
Thanks James, great content as usual 😊
JR is about the first reviewer to discuss the fact that a high handicap could be due to any number of factors other than irons. I hit my irons really well but have major problems off the tee which raises my score. A lot of others would suggest a game improvement iron, but I currently hit MP25's and I hit them well. Cant hit a driver to save my life unfortunately. Point is, I really appreciate him pointing that out.
Gonna stick with the first gen P790's & Apex 19's. They're all I need.
Just taken delivery of P790 after 8 yrs of MP59’s. They were ordered about 7 weeks ago just before the TM new irons were brought out - even though I couldn’t try the new irons I’m in no way disappointed with my choice. They are of course stronger lofted than the MP59’s which I had from 4 - PW plus 52 and 60 wedges. So I’ve gone for 5 - PW and 50, 56 and 60 wedges ( the milled grind wedges look stunning as well). Anyway just in time for our club championship comp this weekend.........
James, I noticed your smash factors during the testing and I know Sinjin would not be happy. :) Imagine what those distance would look like if you were up in 1.42 area for Smash? :) WOW. Nice video. Thanks for doing these head to head tests.
Went for fitting this spring. Went with mizuno hot metal pro. Just better feel tighter landing zone then 790s. Love my M5 driver.
Take them out on the course. I’m close to getting fitted. Definitely want to look at these
Could you do a video on the couple of different stiff shafts available on the jpx921 forged. I currently have older Dynamic Golds S300. Would love to know what the difference would be with stock shafts in the stiff.
Really enjoyed this. Patiently waiting for my P770’s to arrive. Should hopefully arrive when we come out of lockdown. Won’t be able to hit them by then 😂
Thanks James. You've made my decision for me. 770 it is. Seriously thou. I tested the original 790. 180 yard 7 iron scared me down the bottom end with my gaping. The 770's if 10 yards shorter makes me feel better with the bottom end so they are definitely getting tested. My current 7 iron is gaped at 164y - 30.5 degree loft but it is old tech now (Speedblade) so I expect these will be faster off the face and also getting fit would put me in the right shaft flex etc. I think these would combo great as well with the 790 4 iron and maybe even 5 given that TM's website has them being supplied in 1 degree weaker loft on order.
go in with a open mind and try everything. I wanted the p770 recently and after looking at the specs they actually were the worse clubs for me. I hit about 10 different heads and narrowed it down to the mizuno 921 tours, mp20 blades, srixon z forged blades, t100s titleist in the end spec wise the srixon z forged come out on top. And they also felt the best and hit just like I wanted....You need a open mind when buying clubs. I had the p770 spinning way to high and I lost about 15m in distance due to my launch angle.
Hi James , just had a fitting including both of these , P790 was way longer and tighter dispersion for me , order placed , there coming Dec 17
Would love to see Mark the mid handicapper and you take the P770 and the JPX921 forged out on the course. Mizuno is saying with the hotter materials is why they are juicing lofts because the ball is going higher. Changing lofts is supposed to make ball not gonas high but consumer benefits by gaining a few yds. My current TA7 7 iron goes 160yds so if I can get a consistent 10 extra yds, I would likely upgrade.
I bought the original P790 and had the lofts weakened by a couple of degrees by a fitter, to bring my yardages between clubs closer. (ie 7 iron 32.5 from 30.5) this gave me more spin and control. Yes I did lose some distance, but hitting a 7 iron 190yds is bordering ridiculous as you’ll end up having to put a couple of gap wedges in the bag to compensate for the lofts being too strong.
Needless to say I’ve fallen in love with the P790’s. They are in a league of their own and are the club that most new clubs on the market are compared to and they still out perform them.
My advice is Don’t bother paying £1300 for the P770’s. Pay £900 for a set of P790’s then get the lofts weakened for about £100 by a professional fitter. You’ll have the same lofts as the P770’s, more forgiveness and you’ll be £300 better off to put towards that new Driver you want! 👍👍😂😂
I've go the the p790 there amazing clubs the perfect world would be a combo set of both p790/p770.
P790 4-7 iron p770 8-PW
I got fitted for p770 on Friday don’t come until October but they are a thing of beauty. Bought the sim dhy today and it’s also superb
Hi James, would love to see the P7MC compared to the Titleist T100’s
Love my p790 dont think I'll change for sometime,distance stay the same ,very forgiveness love the new club p770 but I'm keeping these.
The 2.5 dergrees less loft + 5 mph ball speed + lower spin = 10 yards of difference for you, all the small things make a big difference as clearly shown.
Or just hit the 6 iron in your current set and achieve the same results.
My P•770s arrived this morning, so exited to play tomorrow!
I am tempted by the Sim Max irons and I'm not sure if these are too blade-like for me?
Great video. How do they all compare to old p790 old p770 vs new and also the p760?
Could you do some videos on teaching a beginner how to swing a golf club? What you look for etc
It would be cool to see these compared to the p760s on course!
Rule of thumb is 3-4 yards per degree of loft. Take the upper end of that being 4 and multiply by 2.5 degrees and there’s your 10 yards James
Plus it has around 600 rpms more of spin.
Can we get some mid handicap testing with mark? Would be good to see the P770 with slower swing speeds...
question.. so could the shot shape you are applying effect the overall distance? noticed 'draw' under classification? offset making you shape it that way?
Would love to see a head to head P790/770 vs JPX 921 HMP / Forged
Would be interested to see how the P770 compared to the JPX 921 Tour.
So many options! I do love the 770s, have a set on order. I really couldn't feel a difference in forgiveness with the 790 and much preferred the look and feel.
I'm calling it. 2025, TaylorMade announces the P710, P720, P740, P750, and P780. Sibling rivalry pushed to the brink of human limits.
Being fitted this sat for my irons with my pro , will go with whatever works , love the look of 770s but will they be for me ?, the new Sirixons look good and apparently perform aswell , heard the p790s can get a flyer which can go another 15 20 yards that could me a loss of a shot
I had an older set of TaylorMade clubs and now got fitted with the Titleist T300. Would like to see the comparison between the T300 and 770. Thanks
More nice golf shoes I see James!! 😍 you must love been sponsored by Adidas
20 HC and just fitted for P790 hitting them fantastic
love this James I really need to try the new P770 I have just noticed your Left foot is turned out at address? Please give us your thoughts on this?
James..great job again. I have a problem about the distances. I game p790 currently and love them. They play great and feel great. I have played them on simulators and, like yourself, had many 7 irons that went 185 to 200yds. I've never gotten that result on course. It does go 175 ish. I'm curious if other p790 players have seen similar results on simulators to course...seems like something about how the ball reacts and how simulators pick it up makes them go farther than what happens on course. Please give them fair shakes out in the real world.
I agree, the talk of distance variation has not been my experience with 790s. I don't care about launch monitors, only how it performs on the course.
What do you do at the bottom end of your bag then because would these cause a big gap from the pw to your next wedge
P790s took me from 15 to 7 in 5 months so I ain't changing.Along with the epic flash driver and 3 wood and gapr mid and exo7 putter I'm finally happy with my set.
How much did you play? :)
I doubt it
790s are a bit of an anomaly. They are extremely forgiving but they actually suit a better player with high speed and spin. Fast players that hit the ball with lag and compression won't notice fliers with them and the low spin lends itself to hitting it closer to the pin. Just my personal opinion. I really want to demo the 770 to compare.
during iron fitting tried the P790, but they just didnt produce the shot flight and grouping i was looking for... ended up with the JPX 919 forged just before Mizuno launched the 921...
I just demoed both of those and I wanted the P770s. They look amazing but if I miss hit it a little I lost 10 yards of carry so I decided on the P790s.
Would like to see a comparison between p770 and Mizuno jpx919. Since I got the jpx919’s last year, not going to be switching clubs any time soon. But curious minds always wonder if their is something better out there.
I'd like to see Foxy compare these on the course. His game looks a lot closer to mine.
Nice work. P770 v MP20 HMB perhaps?
Thanks James. Great video! 12-14 handicapper here I play m2s. I am torn between these two clubs. I have been fitted for 790 about 3 weeks ago. Taylormade has these irons on back order for some reason. My golf pro is being very patient and answering all my questions regarding the p790 Now the 770 are out. Uggg. I feel like I’m paying premium price for a old outdated 790.and the research I’m doing isn’t helping matters, learning about fliers and low spin issues Why are the 790s hard to get if the P770 is now available?
Glad that you have shed some light on this issue. I’m still confused as ever🤷♂️
The 790s aren't outdated & I'm not sure I would buy a full set of P770 because they're mainly designed to be easier-to-hit long irons in a combo set with the P7MB/P7MC. I'd want to test the 8-9-W before considering buying.
P790 & PXG created an entirely new category and P790 is probably the best-selling iron ever. Don't think twice about your purchase (and I'm a Mizuno guy).
@@canyonaro Thanks for the reply. I have the p790s now. I played my first round last Sunday. I love them! I didn’t score better but I had way more feedback from shots and was able to shape the ball better than my m2.
So happy I stuck with the p790. No buyers remorse from me. 🙏
I keep going back and fourth on p770 and p790. I cant believe how good the new p790 looks!!! Ive lost a club and a half after turning 50. My shortgame is good, but would love to find some yardage.
The 2021 P790s are the best looking clubs I’ve seen… but mine won’t be here until the end of August (ordered in May)
Great review! I’m in somewhat of a minority/unique situation since I don’t hear about it much…I’m a good ball striker, about a 7 handicap with my irons (per Arccos), but my putting is like a 25 HCPer and my driving is up and down from a 10HCP to a 20HCP due to two hip replacements and back issues not allowing me to practice driver much…anyway…I love the look and feel of a smaller head/MB/blade which is what I grew up learning on. But, due to not playing as much, I’d love something more forgiving that gives me good distance, but isn’t too big…with a 7 iron swing speed around 80mph my biggest challenge is height on the longer irons (5-7). The stronger lofted distance irons have stronger lofts and lower CG (making the CG too low for me as I have good shaft lean and hit in the right area most of time…so, using GI clubs, I hit them too low…wonder if I took the 790s and just weaken the lofts a little bit (degree or 2) it would help get that height….I don’t need a 7 iron to go 175…current one goes about 150. 160 would be good as my gapping would be better at the top end.
P770’s look 👌🏻
Going for a fitting soon so these might be the ones for me. I’m not the best golfer but I need to look the part 😂
A Camo driver would look good in the bag next to some new irons as well 😉🤞🏼
Might want to also check out the P7MC. Great looking shallow cavity back might be a better fit. I think Rick Shiels picked the MC's to use. Check out review.
Actually Bridgestone J15 Driving Forged irons back in 2015 had hollow headed cavities. I was always interested in those but they don’t look as nice and the Taylormades. But a plus is they have slightly less offset.
bought and sold my p790's went back to the old 770s because I couldn't take the hotshots long. not in the Mizuno Pro 223 and love them.
Before i was using Mizuno jpx iron and TP5X ball, then when to TM lab and fitted with p790, it was 5 to 10M longer then my mizuno sets, At first round on my new TM Iron I regretted to fit with p790 because of ball control around the green no great, after the round and spoke to the club pro and he said to me just try TP5 ball more spin, yes it fix the problems and i get more control under 100M shot.
All it boils down too is price and what you can afford if you take into account fittings and the cost of golf sets it can be very expensive.
Them p790's 😲😲🔥🔥 if only they weren't so expensive
I would go p770’s, I found the p790’s went to far and made it hard for gapping but can’t wait to try the p770’s when we are out of lockdown and our local shop gets them in
I would love to see you demo PXG 0211!
770s are my next set. Love it
I have the original P790 and love it.
Great info. Subscribed. Add a bit more lighting. Well done.
Would love to be able to afford to game P790, and I think they look better than the 770s. Maybe the 770s look more compact but the 790 design is just jaw dropping
I think the higher spin rate on the 770s shows the difference between them and the 790s. You’ll be able to hold more greens with the 770 at 5600rpm versus the 790 at 5000rpm
For me 16 HCP, P770s are perfect, the lofts are exactly what I would want, striking of the irons are okay but not as consistent as I’d like, and the looks are incredible, one thing the price! £1000 for a set although worth it, to fork out that much is crazy! 😔
can you compare them against the new mizuno jpx 921 irons james
Old video but just ordered 790s. If your distance is too far you can always get them in retro lofts to dial it back to an appropriate number
Great review James 👍 where was the P760 In The range then I’m confused 😐 ???
The P770's are the replacements for the P760's I do believe.
I would struggle with p790 as a low spin player. I currently use cobra forged tech black irons which are similar loft but spin them around 1000rpm more spin. So if i was in market fir irons definitely 770 over 790.
I game the P790 and they are nice. I am a 10-14 handicap and they are very forgiving. My swing speed is 85/89 with driver so I am pretty short. My 7 iron is 125 ish
If you get fitted for these, then i would say it depends on your golf course, you cannot play low spinning irons on a links or hard running course. But would the TM fitters be more concerned with "WOW look how far you've hit that"
I got fitted with P790s and sticking with them for a long time. I can't afford to get new clubs every 2-4 years.
33 degree 7 iron is pretty "standard" now. For most mid swingers it's around 160.
30 degrees is another 10 yards maybe even more on alot of people.
Got a feeling PXG and Taylor Made were in court over the 790 being a PXG rip off, or visa versa. Perhaps PXG were the first to develop the foam thing, but TM released theirs first. (Or visa versa again) Perhaps my memory is fading, just like my driver used to !!! I’ve been playing original 710 AP2 since their release and love them, especially after a re-shaft. However that 770 may just lure me to Taylor Made finally, they are a sexy iron to be sure. Best I toddle off for a test run.
my 7 iron in my 790’s is suuuuuper hot, i cant control it, it can sneak out there to 180+ and im generally 160-165 with other 7 irons, ive had it checked and its standard lie, i hate pullin it out its cost me alot of strokes in a years time, but i love my 790’s may try these 770’s
Have it bent weak or go to a high spin ball like Pro V1x or Bridgestone Tour B XS. The screamers are from too little spin.
I like the 770's more. They just look better. Low spin wouldn't bother me because you can just use a ball that spins more and of course the land angle is going to help hold greens.
You don't look at the backs of the clubs at address so what difference does looks make?
James, I want the distance of the P790.
i play the original P790s but wow how good do them P770s look
I had a fit for 770’s and 790’s numbers better with 790 but would have sacrificed for look of 770. Don’t want to wait 3 months for them though so went 790!
FIRRRST, Man the look on those 770 omgggggg I hope Ill be able to hit em!
Dude I had the same thought but I had to go with the P790’s couldn’t argue with the numbers.
@@wirick31 Haha fuck! I'll be getting a club fitting very soon, Ill see what's up for me then haha.
The PXG 201s would be a great comparison to the P770s
They look great, but I think the Cobra Forged Tec Copper look even better.
how about mizuno irons,like the jpx 921 hot metal pro,for high handicappers.compared to the taylor made products
Is it just me or is the original p770 look very similar to the 7MC? IF you own the first p770 what is closer? New p770 or the 7MC?
They both should be fantastic considering the price....
I think the P770 is better suited for me because I want a bit more loft and spin vs distance. That and I would prefer a smaller, thinner club head.
2 1/2 degrees of loft and around 600 more rmps of spin would account for the 10 yards.
p790 udi 2i best club in my bag!
Just got a fitting 4 days ago. I tested the Mizuno MP20 HMB, P770 and P790. I had no intentions or considered hitting a Taylormade iron when I went in to the fitting. All 3 sets hit well but one club (for me) was far more superior to the rest. I walked out with a custom order for the P790s and Mizuno T20 wedges. The 790s were perfect for the way I hit the ball, a naturally high launch/ high spin player, which was causing me to lose distance. The 790s helped me find a better balance. I not only was averaging 20 yards further carry with the 790s than my current set but my angle of descent maintained an average of 45 degrees and ball spin was still great with the ability to control and shape shots.
Bottom line is I thought Mizuno’s were going to be good for me and was wrong. The way you play is the key to what club is better for you. Get a real fitting from a well researched fitter and trust the process. You’re likely to be satisfied with the results.