Three HIGH VALUE speakers! Klipsch RP600M vs Triangle BRO3 vs ELAC Debut Reference | A Comparison!
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- Which speaker is best for you?
#Klipsch #Triangle #ELAC
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Klipsch Triangle ELAC
Power Sensitivity: 96dB 90dB 86dB
Impedance: 8ohms 8ohms 6ohms
Advertised FR Range: 45Hz-25kHz 46Hz-22kHz 44Hz-35kHz
Weight: 16lbs 14.4lbs 18lbs
Driver Compliment
Klipsch RP600M: 1x 1" Titanium tweeter w/horn. 1x 6.5" Metal woofer.
Triangle BRO3: 1x 1" Soft Dome Tweeter. 1x 6" Paper woofer
ELAC DBR62: 1x 1" Soft Dome Tweeter. 1x 6.5" Aramid Fiber woofer.
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For more information:
Klipsch RP600M Product Page:
www.klipsch.co...
Triangle BRO3 Product Page:
www.trianglehi...
ELAC Debut Reference DBR62 Product Page: www.elac.com/s...
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Links to my original reviews:
Klipsch RP600M
• Review! The Klipsch R...
Triangle BRO3
• Stunning affordable sp...
ELAC Debut Reference DBR62
• Review! The ELAC Debut...
People don't understand the joys of those British-sounding speakers until they experience it. These ELACs sound a lot like the Celestion DL8s I started my hi-fi journey with. It's a more holistic approach to sound. Andrew Jones is one of very few people in the mainstream of hi-fi that seems to understand this. Everybody else is out chasing frequency extension to 40 khz, and he's building speakers with rolled-off highs and midbass warmth because that's actually what most people want to listen to.
That was just a fantastic summary everyone could understand. You have a way of succinctly articulating like no other reviewer. Thanks Sean!
What? No sound clips? But I want to hear how the speaker sound in your room over the Internet on my phone! 😆
I know. Another "talk talk talk" video that doesnt LET ME JUST DEMO THE FREAKING SPEAKERS SO I CAN JUDGE FOR MYSELF!
LMFAOO good one.
yeah full hd youtube 320kbit, great headphones and all 3 level matched. You are gonna hear the differences, so still useful.
Just use your 8-track tape player to pretend.
As always I want to buy all three for my different moods
Could just be the triangle with 2 different amps or a good power amp with tho different preamps is your best bet
I purchased the Elac Debut Reference and have them partnered with the Denon PMA-800ne, with a Pro-ject RPM3 and I can say I could listen to these all day. Just a solid all around speaker, but they do better on speaker stands and away from the wall with a little sub too.
Gratz, William!
I think I would tend to lean more toward the Triangles. I've listened to some older versions of Triangle bookshelf (Really, they should be called stand mount speakers) and they were magnificent!
The imagining was amazing and the sound stage was huge. Thanks for doing the comparison!
You nailed it Sean! This was a perfect review other reviewers should learn from. I really like that you always take into consideration different listener preferences, different amplification types, and speaker placement variations.
Based on your review I’d choose the Triangles, since I can’t live without laser-focused imaging, but I already own KEF LS50s ))
3rd time I'm watching this video
Borea, incredible detail and deep controlled bass.
I like that you note placement and room size. Too many reviewers just talk about the speakers as if the room dimensions or limits in placement are irrelevant variables. For example, why buy a speaker for its bass extension if your only option is to place its rear port next to a wall?
My taste is a tad toward the bright side--I love that bright shimmer. So of these three, the Klipsch?
Very informative. My take from listening to you is that I would prefer the Elac.
Solomon Stewart
Me too
I just bought the elacs and i cant stand them
Would love to see a round up video of all the best speakers that require minimum space at the back. IE. Something like a foot or less!
Sean, love this new review format. It is exactly what I, as a neophyte beginning my journey into the audiophile community, am looking for from a review---comparisons among similar products in similar price ranges so I can make an informed buying decision or increase my knowledge about gear in a category. Thanks for the hard work!
I - Need- the- BRO3's- in- white- very- badly... going through new bookshelf speaker withdrawal...
Sean D Yes ,the white ones would round out my black Klipsch rp 160’s.😁🙌🏻
Ok
Sean - just what we all want. Informed comparison. Nicely done
Triangle BRO3 or Focal Chora 806 ?
Thank You !
The RP600M's have palpable and crisp deep bass. Far better overall than Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2's in a direct comparison.
Love my rp600m's! I have them paired with the Vista Audio Spark and for me magic! I would like to get the Dayens Menuetto though... Thanks!
Love that freaking Spark. Gratz on the setup!
@@ZeroFidelity Thank you!!!
Chris Wright
Klipsch, JBL, Cerwin Vega same deal. Good for rocking out
Kind of reminds me of "Goldilocks and the three bears". One is too hard, one is too soft, and the one in the middle is just right.
As long as you're Goldilocks, not papa bear...
;)
@@jimshaw899 I bought the papa bear and I'm looking forward to when they arrive!
The triangles seem to be the best choice if you already own a good quality subwoofer, also check out the 40th cometes... since they are leaner in the lower frequency range. Just buy a Rel S510 :) 3500 dollars CAD. Haha
No need for a sub
The triangles are so frikkin gorgeous. All great looking speakers. I am thinking the triangles, iota vx and a rel t7i will be my system sometime in the future.
Was thinking the same thing. The klipsch have a unique look with the copper color and wave guide/"horn", but the triangles look pretty sweet too with the black and white contrast. Elacs prob most boring looking of the three, still nice looking speaker though
Great vid, helps alot! Any chance next trio features Dali and Klipsch and maybe KEF? Thanks.
Triangle for me 🙋🏼♀️ , hard to beat the French on quality
How about these compared to the Elac UB52 ?
Klipsch are very nice for rock, metal, electronic...
Triangle are very nice... FOR EVERYTHING ELSE and rock too :D
I got to compare the RP600m against the JBL 530 and I thought the 530s totally out classed them.
I've had the 530's and can (kinda) get that.
The JBL 530's are more pleasant sounding but also less transparent. Pay your money, make your choice.
The RP600m have okay transparency. The treble is a bit hot and the drivers are metal so you get a coloration...but I wouldn’t call that type of coloration transparent. It’s that distinct Klipsch sound that is pretty consistent through their product line. Things get different with the Heritage Line.
@@ZeroFidelity I have both of them, can't resist a bargain, got the 600m at intro price of $439 and 530 at blowout $299.The JBLs give you a center stage, sheen, concert seat while the Klipsch puts you on a lively crowded, raw, barstool.
I just put together my first system and paired the IotaAVX with these Triangle speakers. I am beyond pleased with the result and I haven't adequately broken in the system yet. Waiting on my U-turn TT and I'll be set.
I understand the ELAC DR62 just came out, but what's with everybody forgetting that the UniFi is a BETTER SPEAKER!!!
please review the q 3030i
I love this comparison format! Thank you 👊🏻
Andddd of course, what little natural light makes into the house began to disappear shortly before I hit the 'record' button on my camera. Oh well. From the cave, it'll have to be. Anyway.. Yes people, at 2:08, I know there are in fact other options. Ya don't need to remind me of the JBL 530's. Also, no need to ask about any other speakers like Maggies, Monitors, Q's, Polk, and the list goes on. This video is exclusively about these three well-distributed, easy to access bookshelf speakers that I reviewed at this channel.
Please do a side by side comparison of every speaker......EVER in the same video just joking Sigh..... While I think there is real value to this type of comparison videos, I do wish there where more show rooms for people to listen for them self's. If only so I can get some friends off of the 40 dollar Logitech all in one computer speakers............. I know to many people who think all speakers sound the same.
@@__-vo7iq Heh That's exactly it. There would be if more dealers who could better accommodate these situations if enough people gave a sh*t about a good listening experience. I guess that's the whole chicken and the egg scenario.
@@ZeroFidelity Andrew made a great video on this very topic. His conclusion is that we all, collectively, have killed the traditional hifi store by auditioning to the gear on display and getting advice from the seller, but then buying from the cheapest online store. And I'd have to agree with that, even if it's not the sole reason, in my opinion. We can't have it all. Either we support local shops for them to be able to keep the physical location open and all the costs involved, or we'll pretty much be stuck with the online trial periods and have the shipping back and forth hassle.
@@limp6986 - There are a number of factors that have B&M dealerships regulated to endangered status, none moreso than general consumer behavior. The bottom line is that few people on this planet know or care about fancy audio systems. And of the people who are aware of them, even fewer have the inclination to spend big bucks on a stereo rig and then spend hours of their time in front of it. We are a rare breed, indeed! This is the largest contributing factor - by far. Everything else in Andrews video is worth putting out into the audiophile world, but I wouldn't say audiophile behavior has killed off the B&M market. Quite the contrary - we're the only ones keeping them around.
As a reviewer I feel sorry for you guys. You review a speaker and then get asked about comparing them to 1000 other speaker and I am willing to bet it never ends.... I'm guilty. I've asked about Totems hawks and magnepans more than once. As a guy watching your reviews I instantly want to know how something compared to something your reviewing as a way to measure against something we know.
I do Thomas and Stereo the same way and I definitely apologize because you guys are more patient than myself. I would lose my mind If I was reviewing certain equipment and the comparison questions never end... thanks for your thoughtful and articulate reviews man!!
Btw.. I have auditioned a ton of your suggestions and the freaking Magnepan 1.7i, rel 10" sub, with a rouge 3 tube amp blew my mind. I dont see how you can get all that much better at any price....lol. thanks again!!
Sean, you're a god send... You reviewed the exact 3 speakers I've been mulling over for the past 2 months. I don't care much for production value.. if it's a talking head video or not.. I'm here for your take on all things audio. I value your honest opinion, your insight, and you channel is the closest thing to me being able to audition these audio gear. If you feel burnt out.. take some time off man, will definitely miss your videos, but you've given me a ton of entertainment and information already, so thank you!
That said.. I'm heading towards the Triangle Bro3 paired with a Yamaha 801..(was between that and the pm8006) Always wanted a pair of Andrew Jones speakers.. see what makes him so legendary.. but eh.. maybe next time.
A god send? Really? That's funny!
I've never met anyone on TH-cam or anywhere else that I would consider a "god send".
@@stephenoverton8352 LoL.. you ain't got nothing better to do huh, quite pathetic. Zero Fidelity reviewed the exact 3 speakers that I was researching for the past month.. a side by side comparison. You find a video on TH-cam reviewing these 3 speakers.. you tell me. Godsend is a figure of speech.. I was being over dramatic.. you want to take it literally.. fine.. rub you the wrong way? take your skeptical, pathetic, troll-ass somewhere else.
Bun C how are you liking them? I am also looking to buy a pair - also - did you get a stand?
@@bunc7406 I like your comment return some people are just anal with saying that the review on speakers were God send👏🤣
Totally agree... for Sean may very well be the Godess Sendess of all TH-cam speaker reviewers..., and for him to align so perfectly with your needs is awesome! Sean has extensively reviewed 3 out of the 4 speaks that I am considering... If I can only get a pair of Goldenear BRX's (with the Reference Tweeter, Woofer and Crossover) in his hands I too will be in heaven :)
I gotta say, Sean nailed the RP-600M sound in his description. I had guests over the other day and had them powered by a Tube amp. The guests said it sounded like a live performance....
what tube amp? Sean says Kefs (my speakers) can be a bit too much in the hight end. maybe the tube amp will even it out?
@@joem5994 muzishare X7. I've owned a bunch of different class of amps and this class A tube amp is hands down head and shoulders above the rest. Not sure what the deal w class A is but it adds so much soul to the music. Go class A if you can afford to...just fills out the bass and treble so much better
Ramisdad
Yes Class A with a Klipsch is a go
@zerofidelity
I sincerely want to thank you for the effort that you put forth in these videos. I have only been following your channel for about 3 weeks, but in that time it has helped me sort out what I am looking for in the terms of audio qualities. You have a very nice way of describing what various audio components can, and cannot do.
My honest request is that you give me your take on the Ohm Walsh products. Z Reviews and Steve Guttenberg have been giving them truly over the top recommendations, but neither of them have your way of describing what the components are good, and not so good at. They both tend to be overly enthusiastic about what is working for them at the moment. I understand based on several of your recent postings that you are looking to dial down your involvement in doing speaker reviews. However it would mean an awful lot to me if you could give me your take on the Ohm Walsh speakers.
I appreciate the heartfelt request Andrew. I used to have some Ohms back in the day. Wasn't a fan at all to be honest. But if an opportunity comes to check them out again, I will. :)
@@ZeroFidelity Briefly what didn't you like about them?
@@__-vo7iq Unrefined and muddy sounding. Like Bose 301's, only less pretty. This was the Walsh 2000's, I believe.
Thanks for the input... The other takes on these speakers that are out there sound too good to be true. I find that usually when things are too good to be true that they are...
Wow! Great, comprehensive comparisons in under 15 minutes! Gracias seniõr.
For listening to music and watching movies, for example, you cannot go wrong with Klipsch. Even their entrance level R series are good. But you have to enjoy crisp treble forward presentation. The rest of the soundstage is acceptable too, though. I know this review was on bookshelf speakers, but I include towers.
The only brand that makes stuff somewhat in the “ballpark” on price with the same type of feel as Klipsch (albeit a few hundred bucks more) are the Tannoy Revolution XT6 series.
Now that is a fantastic set of speakers that separates them self from the competition. But you’re looking at $1100 CAD for the towers (good price) for those Tannoys.
Comparison rather than more traditional review type presentation helps make the point that there's something out there for everyone.... More than just that the subjective preference is what needs to be considered when making a choice...... I'm not in the market for loudspeakers at this price point, but it was still a high value vid, strong on information 👌🏻
Great notes on three different speakers that are in competition with one another. I've had the ELAC DBR62 speakers here and I have the Triangle speakers here now. I've tried them on three different integrated amps; NAD C 316BEE, Cambridge Audio AXA35, and the Denon PMA-600NE. Thanks for your thoughts on how all three of these speakers differ.
And which of both speaker do you prefer? The ELAC or the Triangle?
@@basiema.4185 As Sean so eloquently pointed out, each speaker brings something different to the table. Ultimately, it's whether or not we like those differences that make up what we prefer, right? As I stated above, I had the ELAC DBR62 here and I have the Triangle Borea BR03 here now. Hopefully, that answers your question.
The Everyday Audiophile which amp do you think sounds best with the Triangle? Have you also tried the PS Audio Sprout with the triangles?
Vic I haven’t heard the PS Audio Sprout. For my uses, it doesn’t have enough connections. But, from the integrated amps I’ve used with the Borea BR03 speakers, the Cambridge Audio CXA60 is my favorite
The Everyday Audiophile Great. Waiting to try the BR02 with one of these, or the IOTAVX. Thanks for the sharing!
Agree with your review! I compared the Triangle to my Rp-8000f Klipschs and the Triangle sounded best with music but Klipsch is better for movies.
Very much appreciated this one, you narrowed my decision down very well. I especially enjoyed the section at 4:28 where you mention positioning and touch on front vs. rear ported. I was in the camp that was under the impression that front ported immediately meant that it would perform better against a wall, and honestly it had made me gloss over the Klipsch even though from your descriptions it seems that they're likely the best option for me.
Good job Sean !!! Love to pair the elac with the Emotiva Stack . The E-S has that forward sound a lil on the bright side of netural 😆
And the winner is bro 3
Wow, good vid, this is a tough choice, I love all 3.
Wow🤯🤯🤯 what a fantastic review this is how it's done people comparison like this down to the point of a very understandable very unbiased but I know you love the triangle LOL but you gave those other speakers a fair shot and accurate summary one of your best reviews bro👍👌👍💪💪🙌🙌😎😎
Hi Sean , is iotavx enough for elac these speakers ? Or should buy the iota stack along with the pa3 ? or it’s not a good combination? I would originally get iotavx , the speakers and after two months the pa3 . Please please let me know your opinion.
Just ordered the Triangles today.They will be replacing the Elac debut 6.2s. Those were nice, just want a little more exciting sound. Running of emotiva TA-100 integrated amp.
Hi Bacon Blitz! Are you happy with your new speakers? I am thinking of buying an elac or triangle but can not decide
Same happened to me. I owned Elac Unifis, too smooth, too boring sound. Got Triangles and love the sound! Lively, band in room tone.
Great video. Thank you. Would love to see a comparison of the Klipsch RP800f and the Triangle Borea BR08. Maybe compare against the Dali Oberon 5 or 7?
I will go with Kef q350
Triangle with IotaVX yes!!! Would love to see that review!
Great job Sean! Cramming a lot of quality information into a short time format.I was really interested in the older Elac speakers at one time and I'm sure that I would love to own these or the Bros but I've got a doorway on the back right wall of my living room and to have speakers that need to be out from the wall would be a disaster sence they would always be getting walked into. I finally settled on a pair of JBL Arena 120s paired with a Velodine subwoofer after a rave review from Z-review so I have the Arenas right against the wall flanking my TV. Probably not ideal but have to work with what I've got. Love to hear your thoughts on these speakers sometime. OK, I've rattled on enough, again loved your review.
Sean, I'd like to express my gratitude to you. You helped me a lot. I've been considering these particular Klipsch or Elac as a highly likely purchase, but you (what a good luck!) compared both of them with BRO3, and I made my choice. I ordered the last ones at sale price (luck again!) right after your review, and now I am really enjoying these wonderful speakers. Sean, you were so precise in your description! Due to that I got exactly what I've been looking for . Thank you very much! Askar, Montreal
I have the Klipsch's older brother (RB 61 II) paired with the Reisong A10. The Reisong is a tube amp producing 6 watts/channel. The Reisong has a bit of roll off in the treble, which makes it a REALLY good match for Klipsch bookshelf speakers. It has good mids, too.
Absolutely agree that Klipsch speakers do well with female vocals. From the nearly-whispered vocals on "Come out and Play" by Billie Eilish to the not even near to whispered "Der Holle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen" from "The Magic Flute" by Diana Damrau, Klipsch nails it.
If you're building a system for a small room or a computer sound system (near-field), and you like female vocals and other mid-heavy musical genres, the Klipsch, paired with the Reisong is tough to beat.
Is the klipsch more efficient than the triangle in room?
I will be using an 8 watt set amp and was wondering which of these two bookshelves would be easier to drive?
Klipsch claims 95db but stereophile measured 90.
Interesting. I had the opposite experience with the ELAC - tried them out for a few days and the high-end felt brittle and flat through the rest of the spectrum compared to by UB5s
Excellent review as always, thanks.
Those speakers are considered a tier above Elac b6.2 / b5.2?
I like sealed box' s. Hard to find these days
ATC... wonderful sound, but sooo expensive
Verry informative video. Glad it didn't include listening clips.
I still have the ELAC 2.0 debut. An older version I assume, mine has a circular front base port. your description of the sound of these ELAC matches mine . I upgraded to the Focal Aria's largely because MY ELAC's sounded wonderful at volume but died a sudden death at verry low volumes they flattened out totally. ( I might try them again now the rest of the system has improved).
Sadly USA Vs Europe is not a level market with import taxes for both sets of customers designed to make you buy local thus protect their own business's. but at £900 +, the Focal's simply get better and better as you improve your system.
Excellent review💯
This guy does a great job.
Which of the three would be best for near field/desktop use?
Hey Sean, Loving the comparison videos dude! I’ve had the bro3’s for about a month now and am over the moon with these guys. I’ve been running them back n forth with a marantz pm7000 and my Cambridge cxa80. Two completely different sounds. I’m dying to know what they sound like with iotavx. Thrilled to hear that you may do a video on the pairing. Looking forward to that. Good stuff, man... Thanks!
Your C.A. is love!
Do you have them close to a wall? Only reason I haven't bought them yet is that I'd have to put them near the wall
I have them on stands which I generally keep about about a foot and a half off the back wall. I do however move them out into the room when I can. They definitely benefit when they have some room to breathe but still sound great when closer to the wall. Being that they are front ported I don’t think it’s detrimental having them a little closer to a wall.
I have a PM7000N hooked up to a pair of Q Acoustics Concept 20s. I'm wondering if the BR03s would be a significant upgrade from the Concept 20s. The Concepts are good, but a bit more bass extension would be welcome. I mostly listen to prog rock and have my TV hooked up to the amp via optical.
Ryan Thomas how’s the difference like between the marantz and Cambridge?
I am really looking to set up good stereo set up for music listening and going crazy with million brands. Listen to mostly pop like music, hiphop at times.
I am trying to spend around 5k and like you mentioned, something I can listen for hours and not to fatiguing and bright.
Any combo suggestion for towers vs bookshelf with int amp?
I've never heard the triangle and since the adorama link won't load for me I probably never will. I wonder how much of their appeal is just having a paper cone which has become rare these days. Paper is still a great cone material and is great at preventing breakup. Light and naturally damped.
hmm. Loaded just fine for me. www.adorama.com/triborteb35v.html
Are you using a VPN? Quite a few retail sites won't connect to a VPN service. If so, disable it and try again.
Try Adirondack Audio and Video in NY. adkav.com/product/borea-br03/
That's where I ordered mine.
I really like this direct comparison, very helpful. Steve Guttenberg made a comment once that if you are going to own multiple sets of speakers, you should vary the type: a cone/box, a waveguide, an electrostatic etc. What's your opinion on that? And would you agree with his comment?
I don't think there's a right or wrong way to do it. Own whatever the f*** makes you happy. That said, I see where he's coming from. Each different design type will deliver a distinctly different sound.. so the idea is that you'll have multiple systems that sound totally different from one another. This will allow you can play whatever music you're in the mood for on the system that sounds best for it.
If I already have a sub, would the Klipsch be the way to go? I have RB-51 II's now, but looking to upgrade.
If you want ear piercing treble
About Elac Debut Reference, for a normal 50% music - 50% movies, do you think something like a Denon 3500h would be a good match?
Yep.
The BR03 sounds so tempting 😬 Your comparison really helps people narrow down their choices. 👍👍
hushpuppykl
Lively and a tad bright, matching is important
Great rundown. I know I’m late to the party on this, but this helps with some issues I’m having buying my next set of speakers for a build.
Declare a winner, and the other 2 companies stop sending you their products. Haha.
lawl. Don't care about that one bit. Rather bored with reviewing gear. There simply is no such thing as a winner unless you have very specific taste/bias.
That's why all TH-cam phone "reviewers" stick to reading spec sheets now, throw in casual observations, and call it a day
Thanks for this effort.
I happen to have these Klipsch's and I agree. Especially on older recordings (60s-80s), where the producers may have boosted the content above 7K Hz (estimated), the 600Ms can get a little bright and tiresome. This is true of remastered CDs, as well as older vinyl, and it comes through on streams. I must assume that recording engineers may have done this to enhance brightness -- or it may be because of the too-often used large diaphragm condensers (I'm looking at you, U-47's), which have a rising response that is thought to make vocals 'crisp'. But on instrumental music, that rising response is irritating. Or, perhaps it had something to do with overzealous mastering. But for whatever reason, the CD's, vinyl, and streams of music *recorded* after 1995 or so come through the Klipsch's magnificently. Chesky recordings (for example) put the artists right there in the room.
... Context...
I happen to be driving them with a Denon PMA600NE with 45 watts or so at 8 ohms. Inputs include a Schiit Modi 3 for USB streaming, a DVD deck feeding digital to the coax DAC input on the Denon, and a Denon high output MC cartridge, which works well into the Denon MM phono input.
The room is 24' x 34' x 17' high. The Klipsch's are placed on a 45 degree diagonal to the room walls. There is an old JBL powered subwoofer in a room corner, set to 60 Hz and below. SPL's up to 100 dB @ 10' seem fine, but not effortless. The subwoofer will be the only item to get replaced, currently planned to be an SVS product.
-Just one man's view.
Thanks for sharing, Jim!
Jim Shaw Jim I can appreciate where you are coming from regarding the tiresome and bright nature with the Klipsch’s I recently replaced my RP160’s with the BRO3 and I’ve come to the conclusion a lot of 60-80’s recordings were simply poorly engineered or engineered to be played on a mono AM radio.
I find the better the gear the worse some of it sounds to my ear. I love Motown but the engineering was awful on a lot of it.
My fix is to listen in mono and it sounds much better.
It not just Motown either listening to the Four Season most tracks sound like they were in different states, the separation is so bad and poorly layered.
The better our gear the more imperfection will be revealed sometimes we can have too much of a good thing.
On the other hand well recorded music is a pure joy on both the Klipsch’s and the BRO3.
@@balooo2863 So, I'm not the only one, Ty? My salvation, somewhat, are the tone controls on the Denon. A few dB down on the treble control on such material tames the harshness, mostly, but doesn't kill the presence. Previous speakers apparently just didn't emphasize this. But, like you, newer recordings, played on the same cartridge, CD deck, or streaming on Amazon HD Music sound just fine.
Unfortunately, or not, I have hundreds of old vinyl discs and a few CD's that need this treatment -- most from before 1995. If I didn't have that treble control, I'd have to change out the Klipsch's. But when the Klipsch's are good, they are *very very good*
Jim Shaw
I am considering purchasing a Schiit Loki to address the tone issue. Not sure why the audio world has moved away from equalizers and tone control.it is easier to go this route rather then chasing warmer speakers or amps in my opinion and less expensive.
@@balooo2863 There's a good reason and a bad reason. The good reason is that if you put multiple tone controls on a stack of gear, it goes all phase shifty and mumbo jumbo. One set, well done, is nice.
The bad reason is that audiophiles are obsessive and compulsive, but lack science. ;)
I, too, have been considering a Loki. But unfortunately, I don't have a "tape loop" on the Denon to support it. I use all three sources, CD/DAC, Vinyl, and USB Streamer. If you have a tape loop, you're ready to use the Loki.
Great video! Thanks, Sean! Hmm, kind of thinking none of these are going to unseat my Dynaudio Audience 42's (circa 2008 - of the Excite and current Evoke lineage). Wish I had a way to audition the Evoke's and Buchardt's.
I had some Danes from that era. I think its all in what you want. But if you love that 'Audience' sound, then yeah, it's best to stick with what ya have.
Stick to what you have. Those are classics which newbies raised in gaming would never learn to appreciate. Dynaudios are solid!
@@jerryjazzbo2845 Thanks, Jerry! You know this hobby, you get that itch and lose your mind. I honestly still love them and this line was a classic for sure. I would bet there isn't a huge difference between these and the current Evoke's. I don't think they even made much of an improvement in the Excite series when they replaced Audience, they just knew these were underpriced! I'm going to be sticking with them for some time, just keeping my eyes and ears peeled. Appreciate your support!
@@ZeroFidelity They were underpriced at the time and hard to beat today! I do like them a lot, but you know this hobby...
Right now I'm listening to Toto XIV album from my early 1990s' B&W 500 Series speakers. Even though they sound ok to me (an amateur listener), it makes me wonder how much the equipment has moved on during the past 30 years. Maybe It's time to go to a shop for some test listening. Thank you for this very informative video! By the way, these three speakers look beautiful...
Congrats on a great video! From what you said I would buy the Klipschs for my home Cinema and one of the other two for my music listening room. Probably the cheapest among them.
thanks for yet another great comparison review ! can you please also kindly continue these series with a comparison review video of
three high value floor-standing speakers? thanks in advance!
I'm so over anything klipsch. They are good for HT (I have them as side and rear surrounds) but not articulate or detailed compared to others. "Forward and loud" isn't the same as detailed. Klipsch titanium tweeter is mediocre, and the crossover is cheaply made. I don't like klipsch for 2 channel listening.
I had to give mine away, couldnt stand the overhyped RP600M anymore. I was so disgusted they just had to go in the end and told my friend to sell them to get something else for himself as well for the money. Way better speakers in the price bracket. Its always listed bright treble etc, lack of imaging etc as point that can be fixed, what they dont talk as much about is the crazy midrange suckout where all the important details are. This suckout is also in measurements. Never gonna get anything klipsch ever. If you end up hating klipsch theres no going back.
@@gtk_NO Agreed. My listening skills were set aside while I owned them. As of 2020, I have no more klipsch. No more tinnitus factory shout boxes. All of my speakers now are transparent, detailed and have a MUCH flatter response.
@@scottlowell493 I just dont get the appeal. Out of a lot of speakers tested these klipsch tick all the wrong boxes and does not sound remotely like any of the other speakers (which is probably the point ). Bad image, Tinny metallic sound and I dont see how the so called dynamics they bring can make up for that. They are not even easy to drive, that is a lie too , measured minimum impendance drops to 3.2 ohms @ 200hz. However klipsch are a reviewer favourite across the board which was what drove me to test them which is annoying considering the price is $960 over here, that puts them allmost at double the Elacs and the Triangles as well. You have to be very careful with these klipsches as there is an initial honeymoon with them with what you think you hear is clarity and such, but once you had them in your system for a while you hear them for what they are.
@@gtk_NO I HATE metal tweeters. I hate them in a horn even more. The most resolving speakers I have heard use silk, cloth and other textiles in a tweeter.
The klipsch's ringy tweeter and dropout serve to exaggerate things, not reveal them. A bad recording will be extra harsh, not because of superior resolve, but inferior quality.
The crossover in the rp600m consists of bargain basement parts. 15 cent electrolytic caps and cheap inductors and sandcast resistors. Putting audio through that is like pouring fine wine down a corroded lead pipe before drinking it.
The appeal? LOUD, IN-your-face presence. No articulation. they are NOT transparent, they have NO dimension.
And yes, this applies to the new Cornwall IV, Heresy and others with the extra nasty titanium midrange. If you value loud and attack over quality reproduction of sound, Klipsch the THE BEST at that.
Amazing bro.
I think i'm gonna buy the smaller Klipsch RP500M for my bedroom. I already ordered the Bottlehead 2a3 SET Stereomour amp. Pretty sure it will have enough volume.
The Triangle BR 02 are great as well. Also consider Q Acoustics speakers which are so underrated.
Klipsch are okay and they do quite a few things really well but, man oh man that damned treble! Yoweee! It hurts. I have never heard these with a tube amp though so maybe that would help with these.
I prefer the Elac. It weighs the most.
I was thinking (yeah it is hurting me doing so), that given they are roughly all the same price and are all fairly decent, I think aesthetics is therefore the key.
So....Klipsch look cheap....they are out of contention.
Triangle vs Elac....hmmmm.....I'm not sold on the white driver or dual ports on the front - looks rather tacky.
Just leaves the Elac's....yup they look very conservative, but without detractors.
So....my take is it has to be the Elac's.
Bad looking speakers can never sound good in my living room😜
Looking forward to the port video
Can you please do the top 3 tower speakers
Great review as always...and great comparisons...as new to this hobby this kind of comparison makes it easy to not get buyers remorse or better yet, when trying out we can say well “if this speaker sounds like this then that speaker will “sound” like that”...also maybe include 1 higher priced then we can also see what we can get if we go for the more expensive speaker...
In my country there's quite some price difference, all pair price: *Klipsch* €650 *Triangle* €358 *ELAC* €498
Sweet! How would the kef q150 and the b&w 607 compare?
The klipsch are to crisp for me.
Tony C. Apparently nobody gives a shit about a typo in the comment section.
Good job, but I think klipsch wins the battle!!!
Simple question.... if I had to invest in either the Triangle or Klipsch to be paired 50% with a Prima Luna Dialogue integrated tube amp and 50% with solid state which would you pick? I'd love to audition them both but it's not practical? I prefer detail, slightly bright, very acoustical
lol guess that question isn't so simple...
I suppose if you have to ask this question, then I didn't do a very good job in this video. If you like any kind of brightness, then the Klipsch would likely be for you - especially since you you can tune the 'brightness' via positioning.
Of the two it sounds like you'd prefer the Klipsch RP-600M. But I think if you really want detail, slightly bright, that sounds great with acoustic music, I would save up for the KEF LS50, which you can get recertified for $749.99 from Accessories4Less right now. It is worth the extra money in my opinion. I had the Klipsch and they are nice, very dynamic. But I didn't think they were highly detailed or particularly great with acoustic music.
Triangle, but not this one. Save for the Titus EZ. 😱
I thought about the KEF's as well or perhaps the HSU bookshelf speakers. Cost isn't the issue but I'm constantly hearing this price range is the current price/performance set spot.
I prefer the elac but the triangle are by far the best looking speaker.
@ 93...oh....you've thrown me. I thought the Elac's looked the best. Klipsch definitely look a bit cheap....hmmmm
@@nostro1001 there's just something about that white. They are so unique and striking. I adore them. I own the elacs though.
@@93redcamaroz28 Some people seem to like fully white speakers e.g. some of the Elac's in gloss & there's no doubt in a modern/contemporary space they do really look good. So, perhaps these Triangles have a similar appeal
I've not seen them in person, perhaps better in real life, rather than this video.
Still going with my conservative choice, until viewed in person.
Cheers 🎶🎶🎶
I must say this video is even better than the last one. I prefer this order when you talk about different features. :)
Have the Triangle on a 30day trial in my home now. Sounds promising so far. Got them for 403usd on sale, currently the Elacs are 510usd and Klipsch 865usd !!!!! here in Sweden at the moment.
Rob 66 where do you get a 30 day trial from?
@@johnminer7831 A retailer here in Sweden offers a 30day try & buy on Triangle speakers.
here in the uk the triangles are £350 and the klipsch are £680 lol triangles are a much better deal
You can easily solve klipsch’s issues:
Fire straight
Use the grills
Get a subwoofer
Use a tube amp and find the perfect tubes
On the other hand, you can’t easily solve the other two brands problems:
Bass speed problems
Inefficiency
Lack of dynamics
Inability to convincingly reproduce piano recordings
THIS. I have Klipsch + Elekit 8200 and they are besting my Kefs
How you compare Triangle BR03 Vs Q Acoustics 3030i? Thanx
I have the Elac UniFi UF5 floor-stander speakers and I love the balanced and easy to listen to sound they produce. But with good recordings the detail and realism is spectacularly seducing. Truly the audiophile experience. I'm sure the Elacs in this video follow along the same sound signature lines as do my UF5's.. I find that the forward sound-stage and forced dynamics of some of these other speakers is fun, but after hearing balance for a while I just can't go back because I feel I'm being sold the 'wow' factor rather than being seduced into a deep, subtle sound-space chalk full of detail, layers and depth.... I don't need to be amazed on purpose anymore... I need to discover amazement on my own as I sit with a speaker that gently and slowly reveals it's subtle strengths to me over time.... P.S. I am also using Dirac room correction and the result is an even more focused perfection of balance and depth. Dirac corrects the slightly foreward midrange of the Elacs and provides what Andrew probably would have created if he had a few hundred more dollars to spend on the UniFi series.... It's truly an out of body experience! :)
Andrew Jones is the Elon Musk of speakers. There is no comparison for his aptitude. Dudes who buy anything other than Andrew Jones speakers AT THIS PRICE POINT are dumb dudes.
I totally agree!
never heard of triangle
triangle for me.
Tried all 3( and others) , ended up with Swan M300