ELAC Debut Reference Review | The Magic is Back
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Update: on the Speaker Leaderboard, I meant to place the Debut Reference above the SVS Ultra in the Bookshelf category as well. I was so focused on whether it could beat the UB5, I didn't consider if it was above or below the SVS Ultra. I've made the change accordingly.
Joe N Tell sweet video Joe! These are some pretty speakers. I'm glad he went with the front port. Like you said, not everyone can out them away from the wall!
As always, great review, Joe!
Also, I wanted to thank you for the heads up on Just Audio's giveaway as I am the contest's winner for the Debut Reference speakers! I plan on using them as my desktop speakers for music and gaming (large desk at 84 5/8" length and nearly 3' in depth) with a Denon PMA-600ne stereo amp. Pretty excited and shell-shocked as I've never won anything before!
I originally planned on giving them to my parents as an early anniversary gift for a 2.1 system if I won, but they refuse to take the speakers from me, apparently.
Another awesome Elac speaker! Nice review again! Thanks Joe!
Nicely done Joe. I was actually waiting for a pair to review but after watching this video, I don't know if I have anything more to add. As such I just sent them an email to send me the tower version instead. Well done Joe.
@@johnsweda2999 Yeah and I know some other channels will be coming out with reviews of these speakers too. I am curious what else more can they add as I thought this review was pretty complete. What would be cool is if I still had all the popular stand mount speakers and I do an ABCDE comparison. Sadly I don't have them anymore.
Your place looks well suited for floorstanders so that will be good. I've noticed a lot of variation between bookshelf speakers and floorstanders from the same line. Although they should theoretically sound similar just with slightly more sensitivity and more low frequency extension, it doesn't always play out that way in real world scenarios. For example, the ELAC Debut Reference floorstanders have the slot port at the very bottom near the floor (whereas it would be off the ground if placed on stands) and it also has 2 more cylindrical ports in the back. I just noticed those are also using 5.25" drivers instead of the 6.5" on the bookshelf.
@@joentell Yeah and also it is harder to integrate multiple drivers with floor standing. As such you are right that it is just more than extension. I personally like floorstanders more maybe because I have the room for it. Regardless which one I get, I am sure they will sound great but what I am expecting is that unlike the debut 6.2, they will not blow me away because these days,budget speakers sounding great is an expectation. Hopefully I am wrong and they will blow me away.
Yes towers will be awesome! I hope they send you them. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on them.
@@stopthefomo Hello mr. FOMO. When can we expect another update about LG CX 48" smaller pixels arrangement and what benefits will this bring to the table. Would this increase or decrease the risk of burn in ?
Great video Joe! Elac makes some great speakers and have quite a few fans.
I put a video up of an older ELAC 5.1 speakers I picked up for $350 but they are much older than these.
These new models look pretty sharp, love those grills! The quality of your videos is something I am shooting for, keep it up!
Incredible performance for that price and size. And that grill!! It looks so great, I would not even mind using those!
Great sound demo. Thanks for the review Joe.
Yey been waiting!!! For a proper review👊😍
So excited to finally see these! I will be using them if I were to win the contest, upgrading from my current Debut 6.2's. I bet my little PS Audio Sprout would love these!
Been waiting for this review! I'm glad they rated as high as they did. They sound great.
It deserves it. This is the 3rd generation and is double the price of the previous versions so I expected it to be good.
@@joentell I like Elac's approach to continuous improvement of the Debut line of speakers. I hope that we see a similar approach soon with the Uni-Fi line, particularly a step up in that pesky sensitivity/impedance rating. Seems to be price room somewhere between the Debut Ref and the Carina lines.
As always... amazing sound demo, review, and precision. My go to as always from back in the days. Great Job As Always.
Thank you! 🙏
Joe N Tell Check out my comment for the giveaway. Keep up the hard work 😓!!!
Thanks for the Leaderboard Ranking. It is a great tool!
Heard them live over the weekend great sound and design. If I win they will be a great addition in my new office vintage setup.
Thanks Joe, You're my new favorite reviewer!
Looks like an amazing speakers for price/quality ratio. It looks like Elac speakers are slowly penetrating into upper mid market with same consistent quality. Can't wait to experience these speakers. Keep up the good work Joe!
Incredible speaker value and an absolute "nailed-it" review! You are the MAN!!!
Great looking speakers, love the new port design, looks much more sophisticated
Loving the look of these!!
Great review as always...
I already have the debut 2 5.2 and for me they sound damn good considering their price, it would be interesting to compare these two bookshelf in my small bedroom
Great review as always!!!
Great review, I would uses these as a nice two channel system in my home office.
Good to hear they did these right. Thanks Joe.
Love the new look of the speakers!
I'm still happy with my ELAC Debut B5 speakers but would love to hear what the Debut Reference speakers sound like in person.
Man, I was just thinking about reference speakers then, boom, your vlog comes up. It’s like the same analytics Amazon uses to find out your interest. Haha! Keep your vlogs coming bro.👍
😂 Will do!
Really enjoying this channel. As an amateur audio person I’m learning a lot.
Awesome! Happy to have you here!
Great review, I need to hear these.
Solid review! Thanks!
Once again an excellent video. !!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for reviewing these with the Yamaha.
Mr. Joe firing on all cylinders in 2020 I see!😉🤔😬 Another great informative review without the nonsense fluff and Balony of some other reviewers as of recent!🤔🙄🙄🤥🤗
Thanks for thedetailed review.
I’m in the planning stages of building a home theater. I was already planning on using the reference series speakers for the surround system. It would be awesome if I could win these!
Nice Review and I tend to agree as I had a first hand listen to these this weeeknd.
Great review
These are very good speakers. Balanced, with excellent bass respone. I can see why some people are saying that they're the best available under 1K.
Doing good work Joe.
When I looked at the freq response of both speakers I realized the Debut Reference has its upper bass stronger but drop off faster than the other one. Maybe this explain why they are more sensitive on room placement. Thanks again for the video and demo!
These would look great in my living room!
wow i am loving this. good job
could you test the Jamo S 809 5.0 system + the S 8 ATM and what subwoofer would you recommend for it?
Thanks Joe, I liked the affordable Pioneer towers that he designed. I hope to hear some of his Elacs soon.
I love those FS52's!!!
Really excited to try the Reference. I have the Elac UB5 and the Debut 6.2
We can help with that!
These sounded a bit warmer than the UB5 in your sample. Is that do to the woofer cone material?
I used to own a pair of Platinum Audio speakers, so it should be interesting to see how they match up to my vintage (Carver, Rotel) equipment. It's good to know that l can refer to another audio repair spot.
Great job Joe, I love your channel...
Thanks man!!!
It's great to have a leaderboard.
Nice review!
This is a very nice review. I am not used to such level of quality making in the speakers review kind of area. Looked like a review from videographers or photographers which I watch also quit often.
Great review, hoping to win these in the drawing.
Those sound pretty sweet through my new Philips X2HRs :D
We entertain a ton, and these speakers (I’m buying a pair if I don’t win) will be be a prominent part of any dinner party. They’ll match perfectly with our furniture and should sounds amazing in our dining/living room! I’m so looking forward to owning these babies! Cheers!
Awesome!
Great video Joe
I like those walnut veneer boxes.
Hey Joe I subscribed to you because of your speaker list and because of your good reviews. Thank you
Thank you!
I've always loved ELAC speakers
Hoping you'll try RSL one day, they look great and sound great too.
use them on my vintage pioneer system .. glad to find this site as i need some equipment fixed
Cool. Tell them I sent you. 😉
It's our specialty!
Love the review
Thanks for the review. I'll put these on my wish list, but they're a bit out of my budget.
I don't know where you live but for Europe I found a very good price from a german website hidden-audio.de, I just bought mine there. They had brand new one at 500€ the pair and returned refurbished ones at 420€ a pair. I took refurbished as they are discribed with no defaults.
I did not like the forwardness of the Ub5 in the upper mid range. Thank you for describing the voicing of these speakers! Thanks Joe for the measurements too!
Well done Sir!!!
Looking for these to be used with Cambridge Audio's latest. Seems like a good match.
Great review ! How hard are Ubi 5 to drive ? Is 80 watts enough ?, a lot is being said about how hard these speakers are to drive, but I really like how they sound.
Thanks for the review. The Debut Reference sound like they have a lot of harshness in the treble vs the Unifi. Is the sibilance that noticeable in person?
Big shout out to Baltimore Maryland and I've been in the store. I use them in my living room for my listing pleasure.
Thanks Rick!
Do you think you could get the kef r5's in for review I'm strongly considering them but either no one has heard them or they don't have any at my nearby dealers
I owned the original Debut and liked them for music, but did not like them at all for home theater and I ended up replacing them. I’d love to try these and see how they compare now.
Hey Joe N Tell, love the Elac Debut 6.2 and can't wait to hear the Reference. But with the Adante AS-61 line being on close out at twice the price, would you jump over the Debut line and grab the AS -61? The very best thing I love about the B6 and 6.2 is the fact I can play things loud without the fear of blowing a tweeter or mid that will cost several hundred dollars. That makes this speaker FUN!
It seems that these bookshelf speakers are an ideal product to upgrade to. Thanks for the comparisons.
nice video, i like the information about audio
Great job man!
Thanks! 🙏
Great job!
Makes me want to build a set like your Dinas
Thanks for review of these. I just wondering if did a review on polks 703 speakers. Keep up great work love the reviews
Not yet
The Reference will be a great value when on sale. Maybe next Black Friday? I picked up two pair of B6.2 on Black Friday 2018 for $75 each.
how this elac debut dbr62 compare to kef q350? your opinion?
Hi Joe, Please advise if I can use an active speaker for HOME Hifi use? I am looking at ATC SCM50ASL or ATCSCM100ASL. Thanks.
Just started watching your videos and I think I'm going to keep watching. Great work!
Hi Joe! I have a couple questions. You mention that the DBR62’s do better with higher end equipment. Would you consider my Denon X4700H to be a better AVR to power these Elac’s correctly to give me an overall better audio experience?
Also, can you link me to the white speaker stands you used in this video?
Hi Joe,
Your review and your Speaker Leaderboard got me really interested in these speakers. I am sold. The tough decision is to decide on a matching amplifier. Between Cambridge CXA60 and Yamaha A-S501, which one will be a better match for these new ELACs?
Ideally, a small Class-D amp like Yamaha WXA-50 or Denon PMA-60 is preferred, but I couldn't find many glowing reviews praising these class-D amps when paired with ELAC speakers.
BTW, this hifi setup will be used in a small-medium living room for listening to classical music, audio books, and movies at 40%, 30%, and 30% split.
Just Audio is a great place to get your older gear repaired. You won’t get it back overnight, but my 2 repairs to older Marantz and McIntosh units were done right.
Thanks Bill!
I was thinking of hooking up elac reference with the Rel T5i woofer, for a nice 2.1 system for watching movies. Woupd you recommand a diff speaker?
How do you feel these would work with a middle of the road Yamaha receiver? Can it provide enough power and handle the load of this speaker for theater use? One day my BIC Venturi's will die and I haven't decided what I'll replace them with.
Would these be ok as main system speakers in a living room with a sub and a nice 2 Chan receiver?
Hi Joe, greetings from Spain.
Would the Elac Debut Reference be good companions for a Marantz 2252? What do you think of pairing vintage amps with modern speakers? What other options do you recommend for the Marantz 2252?
Thanks!
Hi Joe,
I have the Debut Reference speakers and, to my ears (in my room and with my equipment), they couldn't beat out the Polk LSiM 703's. Before I got the Debut Reference, I had the KEF Q150's and I was very happy with them until I took part in a trial of the Polk Legend L200's; I really enjoyed my time with those and they made me realize what I was missing with the KEFs.
So, I agree with your finding that the midrange was "lacking" on the Debut Reference compared to the other speakers on your list and that is one reason why I ended up deciding to send them back. The bass was pretty good with the Debut Reference but it didn't beat out the bass response on the LSiM 703's. I was surprised at how dead the cabinets sound on the LSiM703'S; it is INERT. However, I found the KEFs and the Debut Reference had quite a bit of resonance when I knocked on them (in direct comparison to the 703's).
Honestly, I thought that the Debut Reference threw out a very wide soundstage and, again, I agree with you that the center image was very focused. Definitely not "all bad" on the Debut Reference! I guess I just prefer the warmer sound of the LSiM703's; that and they sound more accurate and real, to me, than the Debut Reference (and the KEFs). Thanks for your review - GREAT camera work and video production!
Appreciate that insight. Curious how much larger the LSiM 703 cabinet is. Also, what was the original MSRP on those? I guess I can look that up.
@@joentell The original MSRP was $1499 eight years ago. They have dropped in price significantly and are a bargain today! The cabinet, overall, is larger but the midrange and tweeter are in their own cabinet within the cabinet. Here are the specs as taken by Stereophile's John Atkinson: www.stereophile.com/content/polk-lsiiim703-loudspeaker-specifications
Yeah, that makes sense. I would expect those to be superior.
How are they in the nearfield against the KEF LS50? I'm wanting to replace studio monitors in a DJ setup, but they'll be near a wall in a small room.
Hi Joe as always great video , just do one help I have bought Elac cinema 5.1 and planning to buy AVR so kindly suggest me best avr with Dolby Atmos
Hi, I wanted to know if the elac reference debut make a good team
and does it have quite a bit of power with the Denon pma 600 amp, or does this one fall short? .thanks.
As Elac Reference R62 seriam um upgrade real e consistente em todos os quesitos em relação as Pioneer FS52?
Quality review
I will use them to listen again to my CD collection.
Got my DBR62 for my desktop and run with a sub.
I did install a .1uf 1% metal-poly bypass cap on the tweeter. It made a pronounced difference in the air, detail and "solidity" of treble above 15khz. (fixed that drop off) Best sounding speaker I have heard short of maybe the Burchart-which are close to 2 grand as we know.
Tried that as well, but it didn't work for me, even at 0.1uF the treble became too pronounced and drew too much attention to itself. If anyone is thinking of also doing this mod to add a bit more sparkle it's quite an easy mod but I would go down in value to 0.068uf or even lower at 0.047uf or better just change your amplifier to a more lively model.
If I win I will give them to my church for use in the choir room - they deserve to hear high quality renditions of the songs they will be singing so they know what they're aiming at
Wow, that is incredibly generous of you to do that for them!
Great video
Couple comments Joe - Good review, I enjoy your stuff. I believe that on an earlier interview about the Elac DR A. Jones stated that the cross-over was modified too, helps justify the big price jump over the Debut 2.0. I have L/C/R with Elac Debut 5.2 (BS, cc, BS) and after some initial harshness that seemed to go away over time, they are great with 2 channel music but only ok on HT. When you compare to Elac Uni-Fi and SVS Ultra I assume you mean for 2-channel listening. For HT, the 3-way centers should excel, do you agree ?
Good video. Not a wood veneer but a wood style laminate. But a good laminate. I a saw them in person at RMAF and thought they were amazing for price and good speaker regardless of price.
Nice. I may someday own these.
can the smsl ao200 drive these speakers? I'm looking at these for desktop/nearfield use. I have a a 74 inch wide desk and the speakers will be sitting on a speaker stand all the way to the side of the table and a little further back at around 6 inches off the wall. But my listening position would be at around 4-6 feet away roughly.