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Lmao, i literally just had a conversation with a friend about how they tried to fix yoricks uninteractive design... by reworking him. Yet he's still as (if not a little more) uninteractive than before. He's less of a lane bully i suppose, but it barely matters when you win lane against yorick anyways since he will just end up splitpushing all game.
Less of a lane bully? HAH Every Yorick player, no matter mastery, just farms up ghouls and chucks E at you, chunking your HP if you’re not able to shield or heal. And you’re 100% right when you say he’s less interactive. All Yorick players either sit under turret and chuck E at you, or they free farm and chuck E at you. He always outsustains you. Unless you’re Nasus.
@@nicklasveva don't know man, old yorick just spammed his ghouls and you couldn't do anything. This new (current variation i should say) yorick has to actually hit an ability. As much as i love the old yorick (the damn bastard) he didn't have to hit anything on you.
@@TheMikeTrumpet to be honest, I don't think I ever played against a single Yorick pre rework in over 1300 hrs. So maybe I'm biased having only watched videos of him laning.
New A sol is not engaging to play. Because of his new passive your whole gameplan is to farm until you're ultra tanky and deal 25% max hp per second with a 33% execute. Old A sol was so damn fun and demanded actual skill to handle his balls correctly
@@milothan-poirier570 Yeah it’s really a shame, I loved how his R used to line people up with his W too, and the minimum Q range made it so he had to be very aware of his positioning, now he just flies away mid-combat with Rylai’s and you can never touch him
It is natural to have popular and unpopular champions, There is no inherit reason to force a champion to be more popular. Reworks should aim to fix problems in champion's kit, it shouldn't always aim for high pick rate
Yorick dealing too much damage with his slow E and ghouls => Riot solution = Nerf til unplayable. Meanwhile Yone and Ksante handshaking banging everything. LMAO
Man I miss my boy ASol so much. Haven't played him more than a handful of times ever since they reworked him. He was so unique and was one of the only champions in the game that actually HAD to pay attention to his positioning.
@@zoramarslink5788 No way. He can be melee range now and still do damage. Old ASol absolutely HAD to make sure he was hitting enemies with his stars or he'd be useless.
@EddyConejo most ranged champions have to pay attention to their positioning in order to not die. Not to mention all the skills in the game where it matters on how you land them, like Darius/Lillia, Camille/Aatrox, Azir, etc.
@@zoramarslink5788 Yeah but unlike them his damage is a little more effective anyway, they have actual workings of positining, all he has to do now is hold a button and hope it does more damage. Rather add burn inbetween positioning to add it overtime while keeping safety.
aurelion sol to me became a completely new champion, he doesn't feel like his old self anymore, even with the flight, that's the only thing left of him and even that doesn't feel the same because it's not a roaming tool anymore. overall they sacrificed his whole personality and Pretty passionate small group of a sol mains, for general audience so everyone can play him, but now he's so boring that i feel like nobody plays him
Idk I tried playing original Asol and his gameplay was just so annoying to me. It really did not live up to what a space dragon is to me just like what riot said they had an issue with. New asol does have a new ide ntity and it did sacrifice his original fanbase but I think it was for the better. His abilities are awesome now. Broken? Maybe but awesome and id rather fun and broken then boring and unintuitive
@@austinbrusenhan4068 Aatrox was really cool, I think it’s nice to have more top laners that rely on attack speed other than Kayle and Yone. The whole blood well mechanic was really cool, having to earn your revive, and the W toggle to sacrifice healing for damage is a really neat feature. Now champions one shot you anyway while healing and being invulnerable (Gwen) or have a whole bunch of other overloaded bs you don’t need hands for, that has little to no counterplay, making it frustrating to play against
@dankmemes8254 Yep, except they made him even more boring and less cool somehow. They gutted my boy good. You know it's bad when the used-to-be number 1 Morde main quit the game after the rework. Shits tragic.
Asol on arena, when you get the star augment , and it becomes old asol Stars, combining with his new e and r, is so satisfying to play ! Like cant they do that, like you suggested? It genuinely feels nice to play, and they all synergise so well
my hope is they make a new champ with an ability simmiler to his balls,they dont even have to make them a midlane mage. they could make them a lethality AD assassin jungler,i just want a champ to have his balls.
It would make the champ fucking broken, it would force him to be nerfed even further than he already has been since his launch and would force more of his power budget to be put into something people won’t like
Another reason, just to mention, Ryze was a nightmare was his durability back then combined with Spellvamp existing. It made his effective health really high just because of the spamming of spells getting him so much health back really quick.
@@TheMagicianOfGaming Old Aatrox had one good thing, the lore Aatrox lore is the best without a dispute, but they had to delete the old Aatrox and give the new one the lore, and I do not know what distinguishes the old Aatrox he was the worst champions in top lane without a dispute. It was weak and his gameplay was not distinctive. The new one is better than the old one in every way
@@TheMagicianOfGaming Where the popularity is more than 10%, while the old one was not played by anyone, even those who cry over it now. Also, the new one is considered the best top champions ever in the history of lol and is played in pro games / low elo / high elo everywhere, while the old one was considered the weakest top champion ever in the history of lol. And believe me, those who cry about it have never played it at all, and do not believe every word they say
I miss old league so so sooooo much. All those old champions are just so nostalgic to me and I am still sad that they reworked Swain and Yorick, Kayle, Sion and especially Aatrox, like that. There isn't anything of their old identity left in modern league. I also miss the old runes and masteries and stacking the same items twice or even thrice on some champions I also love the old item icons. I wish we could play old League once more even if just for a day or two
you would love it until the nostalgia fades and you will then see how unbalanced it was. it was only so fun back then because everyone was so shit and nothing was figured out yet.
As someone who has played quite a lot of games with yorick, i am absolutely fine with how his power budget is split between himslef and his ghouls/maiden. In his current state he is pretty reliable if you know how to play him, I only wish that I could command maiden to move/attack someone like u can with tibbers, even if she had to be first nerfed in stats.
Vars talking about merging the new asol with his old stars is exactly what I think should’ve happened. His old kit’s main problem was the lack of control over people getting close to him, I think if they want to keep the dragon breath they could make it a flight only ability
As an old Yorick otp, I quit playing the champion because its role changed drastically. Pre rework Yorick was kind of a duelist summoner with great splitpush potential, but after the rework he became a juggernaut with the worst ult AI I've ever seen. I play it sometimes but I don't like it as much as previous one (even knowing he needeed the rework so much)
I don’t think Kayle is bad I just think the game around her does fit her design. She is a champ that wants to farm and level up but late game now is 25 minutes. By the time she’s finally coming online the game is over. I also miss old Yorick he was fun to play. New Yorick feels like his ghouls were an after thought.
i dont think thats true most of my games are going above 30 mins and i ve had a few 1 hour ones . compared to season 13 in my experience games tend to last a bit longer
have you tried playing old soraka in the jungle back then ? friends calling for a gank : Nurse ? I need mana and health please :D t'was not very effective but it was fun x)
I really miss old Starfall. It gives Soraka that fun battle mage feel while being a Support, which is rare to nonexistent for Supports nowadays. Now every Enchanter has to play in the backline or they risk getting blown up by damage creep.
as an old yorick player, he was significantly funner before the rework, each ability had a use and a purpose, new yorick is pretty boring...now you either A. Get stomped in lane so you split all game OR B. you stomp lane and teamfight AND splitpush
11:22 I totally agree. When i started playing league about 2 years ago i loved old asol, but i was still a noob so i played other champs to get the hang of the game. I started to main a more difficult and underperforming champ because i liked her design and playstyle (just like old asols) this was when Taliyah got reworked. It was known back then already that an asol rework was coming so i didnt feel there was any point in learning him just for it to be useless later. I love his voice lines, his model is amazing and his character concept is stellar. He is just soo boring to play and imo has kayle syndrome
A friend bet that I wouldn’t main Asol when I first played, got him m7 like the day before or day after the rework and never touched him again due to how much I hated it.
Part of me wants to consider Gragas a failed rework simply because he was originally a full AP burst mage with almost 0 counterplay to his Q and to this day he's still mainly played as a full AP burst character. The delay on his Q damage doesn't matter when its AP scaling is so monstrously high, he can still 100 to 0 you in an instant
I have seen FULL MR GALIO get blow up in one and half rotation from a 3400HP, almost 0 CD gragas, I do not think he's op, but God damn his ratios tankyness and healing can get pretty stupid sometimes
I love new yorick, and I’ve gotten used to his jank. I think his primary problem is that bruiser just sucks on him. Ghouls get one shotted by everything, even if you go bruiser, so lethality is the only option
riot NEEDS to add ao shin to the game and just make it release asols kit. he was not super unpopular at launch and they deleted what was imo the most fun battle mage in the game. i honestly dont think his og kit would even be op in todays age
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I loved old asol. He was never baned or heavily nerfed because of his pick rate. I could always play him and most players underestimated the roams and the dmg he had. Landing a huge Q was even more epic than the new ult. The rework is so boring, but I still play him out of the love I have for the Champion. It does not have anything that made him fun before.
I remember landing a 4 man giga Q in a baron pit and that felt so insane, sure he was shit early as well back then, but his gameplay didnt consist of just watching someone die while disintegrating their healthbar just with Q....
@@idirbouchdoug1567 his main damage never was his Q back then. It was a stun to help hit your W on enemies. Q > W > ult > W was something you'd do for example. His main damage laid in his W, and I think that was what people didn't get about him. He had a kiting playstyle where you'd max Q last and do short trades while you scaled up.
I still dont understand the argument that reworks and vgus dont make the company money, as if Irelia, Fiora, Karma, Evelynn, Ahri, Akali, and Ezreal arent at least 10x more profitable now they look and feel incredible to play.
Survey the existing playerbase just before the rework. Look at the champs you mentioned, before they were reworked they already had sizeable playerbases so when you give them a glowup you're guaranteed a sizeable return on investment if you get it right. Now look at Skarner, in what universe do you turn a profit with Skarner? Now look at Lee Sin and Teemo, you can smell the mint printing RP.
I am a main of new asol and I have some thoughts On one hand, his current iteration is super fun and satafying, along with being very thematically enriching, but in the other, i cannot help but think that maybe a more skill expressive version of his current version would have been better. Maybe the amount of stars he has would scale with his stardust and every third hit could work Like the burst on his current Q
The problem with old asol is that they had a solution and didn't wanna commit to it, in unlimited spell book and Urf for example he gained stars as he leveled up, with rylai and phase rush you would become a pretty hard to remove champ without losing damage. Ps: that change would actually be more fit for a STAR FORGERER than the non star forgerer that he is now, now he is only a little dog with digestive problems
I think the problem is talking about champion identity, like what is champion identity? I think most often champion identity is getting confused with champion fantasy, which is just a part of the identity. For example besides the fantasy, you also have power spikes, is it late game champion or is a lane bully? That is something they recently messed up with Corki forexample, changing the identity of the champion. As an old Irelia main, for me the new irelia is more stat checking then the old one. Do you have your passive stacked? You most likely win. On top of that they messed with identity, now Irelia is a level 1 monster if she can get her passive, before she was really strong at level 4 and especially 5 which made her quite unique in power spikes. Another thing I dislike heavily is the minion modifier on the Q, the Q now deals additional damage against minions making her Q feel weak against champions and makes it harder to actually execute someone with it for the reset. Like they could have made Irelia Q do the old amount of damage while if she dashes to a marked target deals way less damage, like 80% less. Generally I would like to just see an update on her kit, more towards her old kit in terms of identity. But I feel like that will never happen as most old irelia players probably moved on to different champions.
I absolutely despise the new Kayle design. She went from a menacing angel of justice to another generic Hot Girl™ who plays more like an annoying mosquito that evolves over the game.
i think its kinda cool that you have to work around the control difficulties of yorick and i also love the maiden release mechanic. lethality makes the champ so much more thougtful to play too
OKAY OKAY OKAY we don't have to crap on my main man Yorick like that, he is the only Champ of his kind. Pretty much a Summoner Class that is a True summoner, not just the Ult 7:50 Having Maiden be threatened by focusing agro on a target under tower is good design, if you could control maiden better it would be unfair to play against. 8:00 If he was limited by summoning them actively, that would limit how many he could summon as quickly. 8:15 Takes time to set up is a frustration? No that's how he plays. He is slow and weak on his own and snowballs like crazy, his minions always die in one auto attack and maiden isn't that hard to kill. The difficulty of controlling the Maiden and Ghouls is a balancing factor that makes it to where the enemy laner can play around him. If we had the agility to command Maiden and Ghouls, Yorick would be Pick or Ban or nerfed into the ground.
You understand that current maiden and to a lesser degree the ghouls stats are so op BECAUSE they suck so much? Even Anni/Ivorn are more reliable and therefore more succesful as summoners. Not even talking about Asir. Hell if you like yoricks summons so much Malzahar must be also on that list, right? I realy can just roll my eyes when i read peoples comments, where you can clearly see that the person is incapable to look beyond there own two feet. And what made me comment is what grinds my gears even more is when those people get even one "like". Professional shit eaters
The problem with the new asol the his q is a channeling ability means you can't move during it the old asol had a lot of mobility because his w used to give me movement speed and old asol was more better then the new one
I absolutely loved Ryze the moment I touched the champion, coming from an Aphelios main. He was fun, powerful, consistent and skill expressive - except for his ult having nothing to do with the rest of his kit and is dogshit in anywhere but highest pro, and the reward for full-iteming being blown up by a yasuo/adc with just half of your money. It's absolutely disgusting how little Ryze does compared to current Asol despite being arguably much harder to play, even Brand - who punishes enemies for piling on top of him - even Cass, who has much better kiting and single target damage. I just wish he could do anything else on ult - get a massive shield, spell vamp, even constant mana regen for a short time, move speed/burn after each spell flux - but he just doesn't do enough at all and feels so underwhelming. Riot should really do something about such an iconic champion being low pick rate despite having the potential to be the Garen of Mages
He must be reverted to his 8.9 version with 6 rank Q, 2 rank R and shields with single-target stacking E. This is the only way we save our blue Jesus from oblivion
Old Yoric >>> New Yoric Old Yoric was my main. It was fun, simple, had various build paths and had almost infinite team battle variations. New Yoric is boring, has only two build paths and it is always played the same. Skarner after his first rework >> Current Skarner I played Skarner as a support as a counter to any other melee support. It was great fun and beyond viable. Old Aatrox >> Current Aatrox Old Master Yi > Current Master Yi AP Yi got outright erased. Old Fiddlesticks > Current Fiddlesticks Supportsticks was also outright erased. Old Kayle > New Kayle Old Pantheon > New Pantheon Almost every rework Riot does it a failure. Only successful rework Riot ever done was Urgot (and maybe also Warwick with Sion).
To be fair, I don't agree with the Irelia part. Yes, her rework was extremely overloaded when it first got released, and it took Riot several years to balance her; however, her current state (approximately after reducing 5 stacks to 4 stacks in 11.14) she is pretty balanced and healthy. She is a high mastery champion with a steep learning curve but she hasn't been a SoloQ terrorist or pro-play manace for a long time. She has dedicated mains, occasional players and a decent popularity without being an actual problem in neither low or high elo. I think she is one of the successful reworks considering she hasn't been a balance outlier for most of the last 6 years.
Playing against her remains a nightmare. She doesn't needs much to get ahead, and it is very hard to play or punish an irelia when she has a small lead. Edit: I think the problem in the rework is that new Irelia's burst damage capability is part of her identity, while the old one didn't
No other champ curbstomps nearly all matchups with a slight lead and a 900g item. Irelia has the best ability in the game for lane control, which is enabled by slowpushing. So you can't push or she'll freeze for free, you can't contest the wave because she'll jump you and you can't let her push for free because she can dive you and regain all her health on a single wave with 1 full item. The champs that stop Irelia, outside very specific matchups, are in the midlane or supports who can cc or burst her. But until they're relevant, she has completely free rein in the top lane. If you pick Irelia get hit by a skillshot or is unable to carry with a free lane, that's not the champion being balanced - that's you making mistakes and being bad. And if pro play presence mattered, champs like Aatrox should be nerfed to oblivion. But they don't, because they're balanced. They just have features that work better in pro play than in soloq.
@@nivyan Saying that she curbstomps most match-ups is wrong tho. Yes, she has some match-ups (mostly ranged top laners) that she does stomp but most top laners can actually counter or out-trade her pretty easily. She has below average base stats compared to most juggernauts and early game bullies, so she tends to get stat checked often by them. I agree that she has good wave control hence her consistent gold income but this has always been a case even before her rework; also there are many champions that can manipulate waves better than others, this is not a point that makes her either unfair or overpowered, it is something that prevents her falling extremely behind against champs that statcheck her. Also, she has far better match-ups in the mid lane than she does in top lane. She rolls over asssasins and mages until latter outscale her. There’s no world a level 9 Orianna, Talon, Azir counter BOTRK Irelia better than an even Trundle, Voli or Tryndamere. Supports are designed to protect their carry and protect against most champions by either with their CC or shields/heals. It’s not something that can only be applied against Irelia nor something bad for the game. Lastly, Aatrox has been nerfed or changed several times due to pro-play and his current state is flawed due to him being so bounded to Lethality to function.
@@yigitmete2510 If you think most top laners counter or out-trade her, you're playing her very wrong. Weak stats don't really matter when you have the best tools to dodge abilities while controlling whether or not you want to engage.If you engage against a statcheck and you fail, that's not the champ being bad - that's you failing to realize that you're not ahead and/or failed to play the matchup properly. Mid Irelia isn't as common because she can't abuse her wave control and mobility as much. Irelia can't snowball as easily with a jungler often walking through the lane. The difference is that mages/assassins can usually trade or set up a revenge kill for the jungler - while top lane is an island. Top laners, who are already behind, just get curbstomped while Irelia lifesteals all her life back. The point of mentioning supports is that Irelia is usually squishy if she can be bursted - but without cc she's unkillable. Few top laners both have the cc, burst and tankiness to single-handedly deal with Irelia, and none when she has a lead. That's the point: You need at least 2 coordinated champions to beat an Irelia with even a small lead, while she has some of the best tools in the game to outplay them. We're not discussing Aatrox: I brought him up to point out that pro play presence is irrelevant in this context - because Aatrox is still around and played a ton in SoloQ despite pro play dominance. And we're not even talking about how braindead Irelia' easy matchups are and how game defining she gets from it.
Kayle's ult is the worst part for me, she has free reign to do whatever she wants while I have to run for my life, it's like trynda's ult, press R to outplay
Yeah it’s really stupid, especially on a scaling champion that can kill you in 2-3 autos. I also hate Rengar’s W, Briar’s E and Bel’Veth’s E, etc, for the same reason. It feels really dumb getting point-and-click one shot by someone while you’re not even allowed to figh back, and often you have to burn Flash or Ult just to survive, while those champions lose nothing. It’s just terrible game design. Gwen W is another I hate, both for the fact it blocks all exterior damage, but it also grants her a lot of bonus resistances, and with her already high base resistance scaling, she becomes a tank with only Steelcaps (not to mention the amount of healing she gets from her passive, which always deals 70% of her total damage as %HP regardless of how many abilities she misses. Seriously fuck that champ’s design)
@@D00ML0RD1 the champs I play only have 1 second cc. And with cho'gath is not really reliable to land Q, specially with all the movement both those have
lmao Vars saying "I miss the boops" when 1 year ago he said the rework was good Maybe the league community is starting to miss the ASol that took skill, was respectable and was unique ? Took yall 1 year but hey we got there congrats
I don't think Old Irelia was as stat checky as you're saying. Her E needing timing and understanding the fight to know if a slow is as good as it gets or knowing if you should wait for the stun was a cool interaction. Positioning yourself to ult changed a lot the amount of heal you'd receive and her W having duration made her open for clear windows when she was vulnerable. She also had 2 play styles on laning phase depending if you wanted long or shorter trades with one leveling E and the other W which is pretty interesting IMO. There is nothing wrong at being an auto attacker besides of what Riot seems to think and I honestly think old Irelia was more nuanced than current Jax, a "similar" champion.
I've mostly been playing close-quarter playstyles in League since Season 3, I'll just yap for champs and reworks that I reached Mastery 6 or higher for those who'd like a long read. 1. As long as there exists a way for Ryze to scale both ways between AP and Mana, he's never going to find a healthy spot; either he's an unkillable battlemage w/ tank+mana items while still AoE-gunning your team, or too weak to do either. 2. ASol was unique and fun back then, a battlemage with very satisfying "boops" with his star orbits-but is overshadowed by how depressing it is to fight any champ that dashes within his "no-no zone". Now, he's constantly spewing fire (even though lore-wise he views biting as "uncouth", and insists that stardragons only reserve their breaths for a dire situation or a grand finale). Vars is correct, he just needed abilities to consistently force enemies into his orbit like his current E+R. 3. Goodness, it's so polarizing to play Kayle. Back then you're a part-time ranged AP Tryndamere. Now, you're susceptible to being bullied even by a Nasus/Dr. Mundo until reaching Lvl 13 with 2-3 items. It's even worse when you realize that she can't go ideally anywhere else but Toplane if you really want to reach Lv16 ASAP. 4. I miss Volibear Q flip and E knockback. I know, they had to differentiate his Q from Singed E, plus apparently a lot of his teammates' skill issues are exposed by that displacement (missing skillshots when Voli flips the target)... But having an AoE cc, even just a short one, just makes so much sense on a godbear. Also helps with his job as a tank/juggernaut, but Riot said "Nope we goin' Ohmwrecker turret diving for 2 seconds." 5. Mordekaiser = AP Darius now. Made him more satisfying to play? Probably w/ isolated Q, but that's it. Instead of having the ability to command the dead enemy, he just gets THEIR HIGHEST BONUS STATS. Effective? Yes. Respects either his original or his new identity? Nope. 6. Skarner is good now. A bit too good in terms of CC (and also with his poke, as evident in pro play). However, now that his kit doesn't scale with anything major but HP and maybe Ability Haste, he's now even more reliant on having decent teammates than ever before. Also he's now a xenophobic boomer, lol. 7. As a Lv32 Aatrox main: STOP SAYING IT WAS BETTER THEN: HE WAS A BAD MASTER YI WITH A G.A. PASSIVE UNTIL TWO PATCHES BEFORE HIS REWORK. HE'S NOT RIVEN 2.0 EITHER, HE NEEDS PREP AND SPACING BEFORE ALL-INS; WHEREAS SHE'S GOOD TO RUSHDOWN WHENEVER. Do I miss the revive? Sometimes, but it's not necessary and not as much as I miss Old Aatrox E being a unique narrowing skillshot, ALONG WITH A FEW PATCHES AGO WHEN HIS CHAIN USED TO PULL CONSISTENTLY. XD
I agree on Asol - but I really dont think old Irelia was better -I played her excessivly - but not anymore after rework - but I still share the opinion that her rework made her a better champ.
I disagree with irelias rework mostly because i think you missed one main thing about reworks. Those old champs were eating their respective creative space. Lets use Aatrox as an example. Greatsword weilding being of death is a hugely applicable thematic that a lot of people would enjoy. But does old Aatrox feel like hes weilding a greatsword? Not really, but he was still eating the thematic space. Nocturn is another example of this. He doesnt really hit the horror of the shadows thematic with his kit, and if he was reworked they might not preserve parts of his current kit just for nostalgia when that would defeat the purpose of making an actual horrors of the dark themed champ. To my point irelia feels way more like a blade dancer now where as before she felt more like a muscle brawler akin to Vi or Jarvan. But thats just my 3 cents.
Yeah I love Irelia’s rework too, it adds a lot more skill expression and counterplay to her kit. The only issue is her passive + Bork absolutely deleting you when she shouldn’t be strong enough to, I wish she had less on-hit damage and relied more on needing to hit her abilities or something. It’s like how Yone and Yasuo were with Lethal Tempo, running you down with just autos, not even needing to Q..
I agree with this, except with the part about old aatrox, he never was intended to be using a big sword, he was a demon-thing artisan of war who used a way thinner sword that he uses know (and he did lift it with just one hand) the actual aatrox could fit perfectly his old style, the only mistake was making him Riven 2.0
@@obsessedwithcats exactly this, also I would mention the fact that Irelia (and other champions like yone and yasuo to be fair) shouldn't be able to build any tank item like jak'sho just because they already have they "two damaging items"
@@giovannicampostrini6309 new Aatrox feels like his older brother that came and said 'stop stinging them like a bee and make place for big boys, i'll show you how to flat them to the ground', but why he's so ugly;/ Besides explanation that it was boring is dull, he had a attack range (475 afair)/dmg buff on ult, but Kayle has it permanent and on steroids...and she somehow isn't played in pro and Aatrox actually was
@@model84 nah, totally the opposite, new aatrox feels like his the bratty spoiled younger brother who blames everyone for what he has passes through, old aatrox did have a way cooler personality, the new one is just overputting things on the champ thinking it would make him cooler like "yeah make him more angry, bigger and with a bigger sword" but in the end it just feels meh
I got into league just a few weeks ago and as soon as I saw Irelias kit, after thinking I prefer ranged mages in this game, I instantly saw how fun she could probably be. I come from OW where I main genji and the similarities with the dash resets immediately caught my eye. It’s a tough learning curve cause with all the matchups, systems, items runes etc in league, but when you get everything to work and mark multiple enemies… damn her current kit is satisfying
i always was so frustrated with riot for completely removing his passive the way they could've just brought his new E and R and made passive still endlessly skaling on stars giving him extra star on every 50 stacks, capping at 8 stars and after just increasing the max health % dmg of the passive
Mordekaiser is my least favourite so far. Even in Aatrox' case, at least the end result is fun to play. Current Mordekaiser is extremely boring though. Swain is, plain and simple, a mess. At least he's getting another rework.
old Yorick was fine, he just needed a kit modernization. Give him hard cc maybe on W and some mobility like a conditional dash on E like azir and he will slide right in.
On old asol q, I feel if they made it where you can hold q and his stars will rotate in an elipse following your cursor up to a certain range and had his stars rotate a little faster when he wasn't just hold using q would have helped him while not killing his whole character
Ngl zac's alt ult grew on me while playing him support being able to control where the enemy champs stood was so huge yet at the same time could be devastating to your own team if used inproperly
His current ult is way more reliable and more usefull than the reworked one imo. But that's just me. With his Current Ult you can do alot of chaos during a teamfight and displace the whole enemy team, wich i prefer over a slow and telegraph attack.
easy fix on aurelion sol: (Edit: i wrote this comment before watching the aurelion sol part XD) keep his orbiting stars and old W but merge it into one ability, where at lvl 0 he has 0 stars orbitting him, and level up gives him one, 3 lvl 2, and 5th 3 keep his new flight, it's fine keep his new passive keep his new E and R he really doesn't need his stupid breath attack make it so if you hit 3 orbs you deal extra damage but it works in a way that if you miss, the 3 stack passive resets so it adds a reward to positioning good, keeps his old dynamic playstyle while being useful with the new spells
the reason why they never added more stars for old asol is because it does wonky things for your DPS. if he goes from one star to two it literally doubles his damage output for example. it makes for extremely sharp and frustrating powerspikes that are hard to balance around.
What if they used the stars, in conjunction with the stacking passive. Each stack giving the stars a slightly increased rotation speed (a teeny tiny amount). It would not be too hard to balance properly either.
Funny thing with Irelia is that she is really matchup dependent espacially on top. While Riven, Camille and Fiora can all jump towards the enemy or away Irelia can only go in if there isnt a random minion wave that gives her an out. She has to commit to fights. I guess thats also the reason she has been better in mid lately as the matchups there are better
the w change gave xin zhao more target access, but moving the atk speed steroid to the dash interferes with said target access. If the knockup went to dash and the atk speed went to q empowered autos, he could at least choose whether to empower himself against the melee infront of him, or the marksman he's trying to space to.
Talking about champions who had their previous identity removed in exchange for a rework and not mentioning Poppy or Mordekaiser (both of his reworks) feels like a crime. They changed Poppy from this Juggernaut to a full tank with any attempt at going full damage being nerfed in some regard if it even has the chance to exist. While Mordekaiser had that happen to him twice. Being changed from his original version to a bot laner for some reason then again with his vgu to something that really isn't even slightly close to either version except you can sometimes have metal floating around you.
Old Morde (Post S5 Bruiser Update) - literally just needed current Morde's E and fixing the spaghetti code ult in order to be a cool champ. RIP drake ghostie
Imagine A Champ That Has An Orbit Passive Like Old Asol. Maybe A Robot Champ With Drones That Orbit And Act As Very Small Hitbox Spell Shields That Can Tank An Enemy Skillshot.
As someone who mained old Sol and still mains him to this day, I love what the rework has done to him. His abilities feel so much better, and now I can actually use bushes.
Never forget how they deleted Aatrox and made Riven 2.0 in his place. Old Aatrox was actually good, playable, and enjoyable to play as, with, and against, in the single patch just before they deleted him from the game entirely.
It was weird that they decided to buff him into a solid state before the rework dropped, but it was just that: a patch. It is unlikely that Aatrox would have remained in that "perfect" spot as the intrinsic issues of his old kit always caught up to him.
The sad thing is they released a mini-rework that make him fun and playable like a few month before the rework, and people start picking him up and play him because of it too
The blood well and W damage/lifesteal toggle were such cool mechanics, I’m sad they’re gone now. Wish more champions played like he used to, I guess Yone or Gwen is the closest, but it’s not the same
Imagine designing a champion to have a high skill floor and really good skill expression empasizing positioning but then punish mains anytime they do well for years and then replace it with a Veigar VGU Asol didnt have a place in league apparently but Yuumi does?
Tether was nice, on click stun for any assasin that would try to jump on your adc along with heal on Q. But old Rell had one tiny bity problem... she was a god damn snail as soon as she jumped off her horse. 280 MS even minions move faster than that.
Tell me, please tell me that Galio was gunna be covered. Don't give me wrong he is completely functional now and very fun BUT not in comparison to his OLD version! 😢
I would increase Irelia's q cooldown. Just give her a window where if she messes her q resets you can counterattack. Now if she misses it's like it doesnt matter with her 5 s cooldown, she's about to jump on you or heal back up through spamming q in no time after she messed up the resets, it makes canceling her q through well timed cc and predictions feel so bad because it just doesnt matter.
@@rambo-ram-0 Low emerald, i wouldn't say that's high elo but wouldn't say it's low low elo either lol. I don't think giving her windows when she is at a disadvantage is anything crazy. You can zone her out and deny her passive, but you expose yourself to ganks and the second that happens your advantage goes out the window and irelia has a monstruos advantage state. And when she gets vampiric scepter and mr or ad boots crashing the wave on her tower your advantage also flies away because she gets passive and healed back up, you can't zone her out anymore. I think she should be more punishable if played correctly against her, not anything crazy. She's not really an issue in TF but her laning phase is very frustrating to deal with. And it's a general consensus to the point where it's memed on. I think you are in the wrong and my complain is very legitimate.
nah low emerald is good. Weird i normally only see gold or below complain about Irelia out of all the champs But i get your point if the irelia plays it right the laning phase can be annoying, but you have less pressure than her cause you know you gonna prob outperform her in teamfights
Some people might love Fiddle VGU, but kit-wise he's clunkier than ever. I used to trade all day with QWE, but now it's a no-go with no-ult. The higher the elo, the less likely you're able to get the ultimate off in an effective manner because of vision and knowledge. Back in the day, I could E bounce and melt their team over walls when they come to clear vision prior to objective fights. The new E can cancel a channel/silence faster, and has more cast-range, but pales in comparison to what his old one did. by late-game I had teams staying worlds-apart from each other to avoid the bounces. He was my first main, and pentakill. Haven't played more than 5 fames on him since rework.
it brings it flaws defenintly, since fiddle is too relient on it's ultmate for pressure, as w is too restrive, e situational and Q is fun just needs something to follow up.
@@alexcat6685 Absolutely. I was never a fiddle player myself, but he was fun to pick up and play now and then. His old kit was much simpler, but fully functional, especially in 1v1 scenarios. The old W single-target drain was much better sustain than his current AoE drain. I do like the new passive, where he basically gets a free ward+sweeper combo, but the rest of his kit never felt right to me. His old kit with the bouncing crow that silenced, and the single-target fear was adequate enough to use in teamfights. You simply feared away the most dangerous enemy, and made the fight a lot more favorable to your team, also by bouncing crows, silencing the enemy. Even if you were behind, you were still a good use to your team. Unlike today's version, if you fall behind on him, you are being a huge detriment to your team.
pls make a video about the big class updates back then when they reowrked adcs, assasins, mages. Would be so nice to see cuz alot of the reworks got reverted
I would rather they go back and remove Yone, I have a recording where Yone chased me past THREE Turrets and killed me. I DODGED EVERYTHING Yone threw at me, I dodged his Q knock up, I dodge his ult, if I could doge it I evaded it.
The sad part about ryze is that I really like the champion but I had to stop playing it because it's very clear that riot doesn't want anyone to play it. Ran into basically the same problem with hwei. Just a lot of people pretending the character is good because it can "potentially" do a lot when in actuality it does nothing and what it does manage to do, is always outclassed by every other character like it. I found a nice comfortable home with syndra though so it's all good.
I used to like the original Kayle support because her heal was surprisingly powerful if you built into it. I went to her after Soraka started hurting herself for her heals. I actually really like Aurelian Sol's new rework, it makes him a LOT more fun to play. I take him support because people don't really know how to play around him a lot and once he gets Rylai's he can slow very effectively to allow teammates to catch up.
Bias up front, I was one of the few people who old asol really clicked with. But new asol sucks balls. He's like veigar ult became a champion. Not fun to play as or against. Personally, I think all old asol really needed was passive ghosting. The most frustrating part of playing him was minions pushing you out of range during ur w. Getting rid of that would've made him tolerable for the people who loved him, less intimidating to pick up as a new player, and most importantly wouldn't mean getting rid of a playstyle you cannot find anywhere else. Don't get me wrong, he'd still have a reasonably low pickrate, but there's 150+ champs in league, there's obviously room on that roster for niche champions.
This is something I was just talking with my sister regarding Aurelion Sol. His old passive MUST be reinstated. In my opinion, here's what I would do to fix Aurelion: Regain old passive and Q. Retain current W, E, and R. That said, I like the idea of making Center of the Universe his new Q mixed in with his W toggle.
It would be cool if you made a long form video detailing their life. It would be a lot of effort but it would add a whole new layer to them. Short form might work better depending on whatever you feel like. Anyway cool cat
Just a silly idea, but thinking about it it might just work. With the show Arcane Rito added the paralel world feel/impression, and with Zilean and Ekko being time manipulators they can launch a new event, where a chrono disaster caused past versions of reworked champions to show up. Either have them as playable characters, or enemy, or both. Imagine old AP Sion vs today's HP harvesting hulk.
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i mean, irelia mains love the rework
i just miss the old Q sound
and its sasd that the balance team has no brain cells
Come on Vars did we really need a 15 minute video on why you think Skarner was more submissive before his rework.
What.
😂 what?
I don't understand 😅
Ayo?
I did understand his argument about the wait we've had to endure to finally see Oiled Up Skarner, got the rework before it was delivered
Lmao, i literally just had a conversation with a friend about how they tried to fix yoricks uninteractive design... by reworking him. Yet he's still as (if not a little more) uninteractive than before. He's less of a lane bully i suppose, but it barely matters when you win lane against yorick anyways since he will just end up splitpushing all game.
90% top do that to be fair he is just a little bit more efficient.
Less of a lane bully? HAH
Every Yorick player, no matter mastery, just farms up ghouls and chucks E at you, chunking your HP if you’re not able to shield or heal.
And you’re 100% right when you say he’s less interactive. All Yorick players either sit under turret and chuck E at you, or they free farm and chuck E at you. He always outsustains you. Unless you’re Nasus.
@@sortilien2099 true, but for me this is a special case. Since they reworked him and he still has the same problems.
@@nicklasveva don't know man, old yorick just spammed his ghouls and you couldn't do anything. This new (current variation i should say) yorick has to actually hit an ability. As much as i love the old yorick (the damn bastard) he didn't have to hit anything on you.
@@TheMikeTrumpet to be honest, I don't think I ever played against a single Yorick pre rework in over 1300 hrs. So maybe I'm biased having only watched videos of him laning.
I badly miss Asol's balls. I wouldn't say I was great with Asol, but I did enjoy his play style, and I do not like the playstyle of his new Q.
Where are my balls, RIOT?
I miss his balls too uwu
same here! now Asol is a grounded stats checker with an execute.
New A sol is not engaging to play. Because of his new passive your whole gameplan is to farm until you're ultra tanky and deal 25% max hp per second with a 33% execute. Old A sol was so damn fun and demanded actual skill to handle his balls correctly
@@milothan-poirier570 Yeah it’s really a shame, I loved how his R used to line people up with his W too, and the minimum Q range made it so he had to be very aware of his positioning, now he just flies away mid-combat with Rylai’s and you can never touch him
There are over 150 champions, and for some reason Riot thinks that if a champion has less than 1% pick rate that means they have to "fix" it
It is natural to have popular and unpopular champions,
There is no inherit reason to force a champion to be more popular.
Reworks should aim to fix problems in champion's kit, it shouldn't always aim for high pick rate
Yorick dealing too much damage with his slow E and ghouls => Riot solution = Nerf til unplayable. Meanwhile Yone and Ksante handshaking banging everything. LMAO
@@E_D___ for Riot it is all about SKINS. low pick rate means low skin sales!
It is normal for champions to have a popularity rating of less than 1% when Cait alone has 20% and Ahri alone has 20%. and Aatrox 10%
But 10 get picked every game
Man I miss my boy ASol so much. Haven't played him more than a handful of times ever since they reworked him.
He was so unique and was one of the only champions in the game that actually HAD to pay attention to his positioning.
Well, he still has to worry about positioning. Probably more so now than before.
@@zoramarslink5788 No way. He can be melee range now and still do damage. Old ASol absolutely HAD to make sure he was hitting enemies with his stars or he'd be useless.
Riot punished asol mains for their champ having a high skill ceiling and floor
@EddyConejo most ranged champions have to pay attention to their positioning in order to not die. Not to mention all the skills in the game where it matters on how you land them, like Darius/Lillia, Camille/Aatrox, Azir, etc.
@@zoramarslink5788 Yeah but unlike them his damage is a little more effective anyway, they have actual workings of positining, all he has to do now is hold a button and hope it does more damage.
Rather add burn inbetween positioning to add it overtime while keeping safety.
aurelion sol to me became a completely new champion, he doesn't feel like his old self anymore, even with the flight, that's the only thing left of him and even that doesn't feel the same because it's not a roaming tool anymore. overall they sacrificed his whole personality and Pretty passionate small group of a sol mains, for general audience so everyone can play him, but now he's so boring that i feel like nobody plays him
Imagine punishing the people for liking a champ YOU DESIGNED to have a high skill ceiling and then nerfing him every time players showed it
Idk I tried playing original Asol and his gameplay was just so annoying to me. It really did not live up to what a space dragon is to me just like what riot said they had an issue with. New asol does have a new ide ntity and it did sacrifice his original fanbase but I think it was for the better. His abilities are awesome now. Broken? Maybe but awesome and id rather fun and broken then boring and unintuitive
I feel like there’s actually a reason to play him now. Before he was clunky and unappealing, now he’s badass.
He is one of my favorite champs now. In fact his rework got me back into league
@@Murlocsluvmeat why not then fix the champion instead of sacrificing it's identity?
Totally agree about the mention of mordekaiser. The one we have now is no longer mordekaiser, is a new champion with a mordekaiser skin
Aatrox is the worst case of this. I miss my boy
Nah, I used to like old morde too (the one before the dragon bs), but new morde is simply a better version of him.
@@austinbrusenhan4068 Aatrox was really cool, I think it’s nice to have more top laners that rely on attack speed other than Kayle and Yone. The whole blood well mechanic was really cool, having to earn your revive, and the W toggle to sacrifice healing for damage is a really neat feature. Now champions one shot you anyway while healing and being invulnerable (Gwen) or have a whole bunch of other overloaded bs you don’t need hands for, that has little to no counterplay, making it frustrating to play against
@@ruschev2 modern mordkaiser is AP Darius
@dankmemes8254 Yep, except they made him even more boring and less cool somehow. They gutted my boy good. You know it's bad when the used-to-be number 1 Morde main quit the game after the rework. Shits tragic.
Asol on arena, when you get the star augment , and it becomes old asol Stars, combining with his new e and r, is so satisfying to play ! Like cant they do that, like you suggested? It genuinely feels nice to play, and they all synergise so well
my hope is they make a new champ with an ability simmiler to his balls,they dont even have to make them a midlane mage.
they could make them a lethality AD assassin jungler,i just want a champ to have his balls.
It would make the champ fucking broken, it would force him to be nerfed even further than he already has been since his launch and would force more of his power budget to be put into something people won’t like
Or they could take a look at IO and make him work like that, but no, we have to be clunky
I will never forgive the nerf of the frostbutt irelia splash and model
you have porn addiction
I had literally just got the skin and they reworked her a week later, I didn’t even know it was coming bc I was too busy coming
Another reason, just to mention, Ryze was a nightmare was his durability back then combined with Spellvamp existing. It made his effective health really high just because of the spamming of spells getting him so much health back really quick.
Never forget old Aatrox, who was just straight up deleted from the game.
My first ever main, just for them to turn him into a slower, tankier Riven. What a waste of a champ
The new one 100000000000000000000000 % bettter then the old one you guys are drunk
@OmarAhme-w3h his current form is a lot better, but they changed his ENTIRE identity. There was place in league for both old aatrox and new aatrox.
@@TheMagicianOfGaming Old Aatrox had one good thing, the lore Aatrox lore is the best without a dispute, but they had to delete the old Aatrox and give the new one the lore, and I do not know what distinguishes the old Aatrox he was the worst champions in top lane without a dispute. It was weak and his gameplay was not distinctive. The new one is better than the old one in every way
@@TheMagicianOfGaming Where the popularity is more than 10%, while the old one was not played by anyone, even those who cry over it now. Also, the new one is considered the best top champions ever in the history of lol and is played in pro games / low elo / high elo everywhere, while the old one was considered the weakest top champion ever in the history of lol. And believe me, those who cry about it have never played it at all, and do not believe every word they say
Talk about Malz? His rework got hyped but it just ended up being a huge damage nerf and a token defensive passive.
hyped how? also rip AD malz
Old Malz was so much better. Also, you weren't forced to only build AP, since the malz minions had AD scaling
I miss old league so so sooooo much. All those old champions are just so nostalgic to me and I am still sad that they reworked Swain and Yorick, Kayle, Sion and especially Aatrox, like that. There isn't anything of their old identity left in modern league.
I also miss the old runes and masteries and stacking the same items twice or even thrice on some champions
I also love the old item icons. I wish we could play old League once more even if just for a day or two
you would love it until the nostalgia fades and you will then see how unbalanced it was. it was only so fun back then because everyone was so shit and nothing was figured out yet.
As someone who has played quite a lot of games with yorick, i am absolutely fine with how his power budget is split between himslef and his ghouls/maiden. In his current state he is pretty reliable if you know how to play him, I only wish that I could command maiden to move/attack someone like u can with tibbers, even if she had to be first nerfed in stats.
Vars talking about merging the new asol with his old stars is exactly what I think should’ve happened. His old kit’s main problem was the lack of control over people getting close to him, I think if they want to keep the dragon breath they could make it a flight only ability
As an old Yorick otp, I quit playing the champion because its role changed drastically. Pre rework Yorick was kind of a duelist summoner with great splitpush potential, but after the rework he became a juggernaut with the worst ult AI I've ever seen. I play it sometimes but I don't like it as much as previous one (even knowing he needeed the rework so much)
I don’t think Kayle is bad I just think the game around her does fit her design. She is a champ that wants to farm and level up but late game now is 25 minutes. By the time she’s finally coming online the game is over. I also miss old Yorick he was fun to play. New Yorick feels like his ghouls were an after thought.
i dont think thats true most of my games are going above 30 mins and i ve had a few 1 hour ones . compared to season 13 in my experience games tend to last a bit longer
@@kano101435 Lots and lots and lots of FF15.
I'd trade some lategame power for early ranged attacks
She wasn't really ranged top scum when her range came in at level 11 unconditionally. Now that it's level 6, her players are scum
After thought? Bro most of the time I play against Yorick the Miaden and Ghouls are doing 90% of the damage, their the whole character basically.
Swain should be on here. He is in fact getting reworked again, due to his kit being very incoherent, and his E being a very bad spell
I sure do miss Aatrox. I'd be rocking that dude in Arena on the daily, but now he sits, gathering dust in my collection
old Yorick has something most champions dont have. A truly unique and different experience every game, whilst being fun as hell
Maybe I missed it, but have you looked into Soraka's rework? I still miss old Starfall and giving mana to teammates 😭
have you tried playing old soraka in the jungle back then ?
friends calling for a gank : Nurse ? I need mana and health please :D
t'was not very effective but it was fun x)
Her new one is better overall but I far preferred the old one, star fall all day for the win
I really miss old Starfall. It gives Soraka that fun battle mage feel while being a Support, which is rare to nonexistent for Supports nowadays. Now every Enchanter has to play in the backline or they risk getting blown up by damage creep.
A friend of mine always played soraka mid/top as his pocket pick. I was always dumbfounded when I saw the message he killed the enemy laner.
One for all Soraka was amazing back then. Good times...
as an old yorick player, he was significantly funner before the rework, each ability had a use and a purpose, new yorick is pretty boring...now you either A. Get stomped in lane so you split all game OR B. you stomp lane and teamfight AND splitpush
old yorick was fun to play but extremely frustrating to play against.
11:22 I totally agree. When i started playing league about 2 years ago i loved old asol, but i was still a noob so i played other champs to get the hang of the game. I started to main a more difficult and underperforming champ because i liked her design and playstyle (just like old asols) this was when Taliyah got reworked. It was known back then already that an asol rework was coming so i didnt feel there was any point in learning him just for it to be useless later.
I love his voice lines, his model is amazing and his character concept is stellar. He is just soo boring to play and imo has kayle syndrome
A friend bet that I wouldn’t main Asol when I first played, got him m7 like the day before or day after the rework and never touched him again due to how much I hated it.
Part of me wants to consider Gragas a failed rework simply because he was originally a full AP burst mage with almost 0 counterplay to his Q and to this day he's still mainly played as a full AP burst character. The delay on his Q damage doesn't matter when its AP scaling is so monstrously high, he can still 100 to 0 you in an instant
I have seen FULL MR GALIO get blow up in one and half rotation from a 3400HP, almost 0 CD gragas, I do not think he's op, but God damn his ratios tankyness and healing can get pretty stupid sometimes
I love new yorick, and I’ve gotten used to his jank. I think his primary problem is that bruiser just sucks on him. Ghouls get one shotted by everything, even if you go bruiser, so lethality is the only option
this is not true at all. bruiser is good in some scrappy matchup that invalidate your ghouls and kill you too fast like wukong and irelia.
I miss old Mord for having all his abilities referencing metal songs
riot NEEDS to add ao shin to the game and just make it release asols kit. he was not super unpopular at launch and they deleted what was imo the most fun battle mage in the game. i honestly dont think his og kit would even be op in todays age
Missed the opportunity on corki who's rework just got reverted pretty much entirely
How about we first rework Vanguard to not be Kernel 0-level spyware?
You don't want to give the Chinese government your information?!?
(and before the "you already give it to Google tho why you care now?" arguments come, Google doesn't have literal concentration camps, organ harvesting programs and sexism on a systematic level)
I loved old asol. He was never baned or heavily nerfed because of his pick rate. I could always play him and most players underestimated the roams and the dmg he had.
Landing a huge Q was even more epic than the new ult.
The rework is so boring, but I still play him out of the love I have for the Champion. It does not have anything that made him fun before.
I remember landing a 4 man giga Q in a baron pit and that felt so insane, sure he was shit early as well back then, but his gameplay didnt consist of just watching someone die while disintegrating their healthbar just with Q....
really ?i thought the old Q was pretty overwhelming because it only scaled up the radius. so the damage was always so shit for the effort.
@@idirbouchdoug1567 his main damage never was his Q back then. It was a stun to help hit your W on enemies. Q > W > ult > W was something you'd do for example.
His main damage laid in his W, and I think that was what people didn't get about him. He had a kiting playstyle where you'd max Q last and do short trades while you scaled up.
@@bramt2000 i meant underwhelming 😅
@@bramt2000 yeah , his Q barely did any damage.
I still dont understand the argument that reworks and vgus dont make the company money, as if Irelia, Fiora, Karma, Evelynn, Ahri, Akali, and Ezreal arent at least 10x more profitable now they look and feel incredible to play.
Survey the existing playerbase just before the rework. Look at the champs you mentioned, before they were reworked they already had sizeable playerbases so when you give them a glowup you're guaranteed a sizeable return on investment if you get it right.
Now look at Skarner, in what universe do you turn a profit with Skarner? Now look at Lee Sin and Teemo, you can smell the mint printing RP.
@@Hellothere-ss4jq Evelynn rework is dog shit. Removed everything fun from her kit.
Half of those characters were already popular before the reword
I am a main of new asol and I have some thoughts
On one hand, his current iteration is super fun and satafying, along with being very thematically enriching, but in the other, i cannot help but think that maybe a more skill expressive version of his current version would have been better. Maybe the amount of stars he has would scale with his stardust and every third hit could work
Like the burst on his current Q
The problem with old asol is that they had a solution and didn't wanna commit to it, in unlimited spell book and Urf for example he gained stars as he leveled up, with rylai and phase rush you would become a pretty hard to remove champ without losing damage.
Ps: that change would actually be more fit for a STAR FORGERER than the non star forgerer that he is now, now he is only a little dog with digestive problems
6:50 i agree with you about the Passive and E
I think the problem is talking about champion identity, like what is champion identity?
I think most often champion identity is getting confused with champion fantasy, which is just a part of the identity.
For example besides the fantasy, you also have power spikes, is it late game champion or is a lane bully? That is something they recently messed up with Corki forexample, changing the identity of the champion.
As an old Irelia main, for me the new irelia is more stat checking then the old one. Do you have your passive stacked? You most likely win.
On top of that they messed with identity, now Irelia is a level 1 monster if she can get her passive, before she was really strong at level 4 and especially 5 which made her quite unique in power spikes. Another thing I dislike heavily is the minion modifier on the Q, the Q now deals additional damage against minions making her Q feel weak against champions and makes it harder to actually execute someone with it for the reset. Like they could have made Irelia Q do the old amount of damage while if she dashes to a marked target deals way less damage, like 80% less.
Generally I would like to just see an update on her kit, more towards her old kit in terms of identity. But I feel like that will never happen as most old irelia players probably moved on to different champions.
I absolutely despise the new Kayle design. She went from a menacing angel of justice to another generic Hot Girl™ who plays more like an annoying mosquito that evolves over the game.
13:05 watching that made me sad
i think its kinda cool that you have to work around the control difficulties of yorick and i also love the maiden release mechanic. lethality makes the champ so much more thougtful to play too
OKAY OKAY OKAY we don't have to crap on my main man Yorick like that, he is the only Champ of his kind. Pretty much a Summoner Class that is a True summoner, not just the Ult
7:50 Having Maiden be threatened by focusing agro on a target under tower is good design, if you could control maiden better it would be unfair to play against.
8:00 If he was limited by summoning them actively, that would limit how many he could summon as quickly.
8:15 Takes time to set up is a frustration? No that's how he plays. He is slow and weak on his own and snowballs like crazy, his minions always die in one auto attack and maiden isn't that hard to kill. The difficulty of controlling the Maiden and Ghouls is a balancing factor that makes it to where the enemy laner can play around him. If we had the agility to command Maiden and Ghouls, Yorick would be Pick or Ban or nerfed into the ground.
You understand that current maiden and to a lesser degree the ghouls stats are so op BECAUSE they suck so much? Even Anni/Ivorn are more reliable and therefore more succesful as summoners. Not even talking about Asir.
Hell if you like yoricks summons so much Malzahar must be also on that list, right?
I realy can just roll my eyes when i read peoples comments, where you can clearly see that the person is incapable to look beyond there own two feet.
And what made me comment is what grinds my gears even more is when those people get even one "like".
Professional shit eaters
@@TheBall12 lol it's not that serious my guy
@@TheBall12league shitters when someone has a different opinion to theirs
The problem with the new asol the his q is a channeling ability means you can't move during it the old asol had a lot of mobility because his w used to give me movement speed and old asol was more better then the new one
I absolutely loved Ryze the moment I touched the champion, coming from an Aphelios main. He was fun, powerful, consistent and skill expressive - except for his ult having nothing to do with the rest of his kit and is dogshit in anywhere but highest pro, and the reward for full-iteming being blown up by a yasuo/adc with just half of your money. It's absolutely disgusting how little Ryze does compared to current Asol despite being arguably much harder to play, even Brand - who punishes enemies for piling on top of him - even Cass, who has much better kiting and single target damage. I just wish he could do anything else on ult - get a massive shield, spell vamp, even constant mana regen for a short time, move speed/burn after each spell flux - but he just doesn't do enough at all and feels so underwhelming. Riot should really do something about such an iconic champion being low pick rate despite having the potential to be the Garen of Mages
He must be reverted to his 8.9 version with 6 rank Q, 2 rank R and shields with single-target stacking E. This is the only way we save our blue Jesus from oblivion
@@ЯйцеславПаровозgood lord, he even remembers the exact patch 😭
Old Yoric >>> New Yoric
Old Yoric was my main. It was fun, simple, had various build paths and had almost infinite team battle variations.
New Yoric is boring, has only two build paths and it is always played the same.
Skarner after his first rework >> Current Skarner
I played Skarner as a support as a counter to any other melee support. It was great fun and beyond viable.
Old Aatrox >> Current Aatrox
Old Master Yi > Current Master Yi
AP Yi got outright erased.
Old Fiddlesticks > Current Fiddlesticks
Supportsticks was also outright erased.
Old Kayle > New Kayle
Old Pantheon > New Pantheon
Almost every rework Riot does it a failure. Only successful rework Riot ever done was Urgot (and maybe also Warwick with Sion).
To be fair, I don't agree with the Irelia part. Yes, her rework was extremely overloaded when it first got released, and it took Riot several years to balance her; however, her current state (approximately after reducing 5 stacks to 4 stacks in 11.14) she is pretty balanced and healthy. She is a high mastery champion with a steep learning curve but she hasn't been a SoloQ terrorist or pro-play manace for a long time. She has dedicated mains, occasional players and a decent popularity without being an actual problem in neither low or high elo. I think she is one of the successful reworks considering she hasn't been a balance outlier for most of the last 6 years.
Playing against her remains a nightmare.
She doesn't needs much to get ahead, and it is very hard to play or punish an irelia when she has a small lead.
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I think the problem in the rework is that new Irelia's burst damage capability is part of her identity, while the old one didn't
No other champ curbstomps nearly all matchups with a slight lead and a 900g item. Irelia has the best ability in the game for lane control, which is enabled by slowpushing. So you can't push or she'll freeze for free, you can't contest the wave because she'll jump you and you can't let her push for free because she can dive you and regain all her health on a single wave with 1 full item. The champs that stop Irelia, outside very specific matchups, are in the midlane or supports who can cc or burst her. But until they're relevant, she has completely free rein in the top lane.
If you pick Irelia get hit by a skillshot or is unable to carry with a free lane, that's not the champion being balanced - that's you making mistakes and being bad.
And if pro play presence mattered, champs like Aatrox should be nerfed to oblivion. But they don't, because they're balanced. They just have features that work better in pro play than in soloq.
@@nivyan Saying that she curbstomps most match-ups is wrong tho. Yes, she has some match-ups (mostly ranged top laners) that she does stomp but most top laners can actually counter or out-trade her pretty easily. She has below average base stats compared to most juggernauts and early game bullies, so she tends to get stat checked often by them. I agree that she has good wave control hence her consistent gold income but this has always been a case even before her rework; also there are many champions that can manipulate waves better than others, this is not a point that makes her either unfair or overpowered, it is something that prevents her falling extremely behind against champs that statcheck her.
Also, she has far better match-ups in the mid lane than she does in top lane. She rolls over asssasins and mages until latter outscale her. There’s no world a level 9 Orianna, Talon, Azir counter BOTRK Irelia better than an even Trundle, Voli or Tryndamere. Supports are designed to protect their carry and protect against most champions by either with their CC or shields/heals. It’s not something that can only be applied against Irelia nor something bad for the game.
Lastly, Aatrox has been nerfed or changed several times due to pro-play and his current state is flawed due to him being so bounded to Lethality to function.
@@yigitmete2510 If you think most top laners counter or out-trade her, you're playing her very wrong.
Weak stats don't really matter when you have the best tools to dodge abilities while controlling whether or not you want to engage.If you engage against a statcheck and you fail, that's not the champ being bad - that's you failing to realize that you're not ahead and/or failed to play the matchup properly.
Mid Irelia isn't as common because she can't abuse her wave control and mobility as much. Irelia can't snowball as easily with a jungler often walking through the lane. The difference is that mages/assassins can usually trade or set up a revenge kill for the jungler - while top lane is an island. Top laners, who are already behind, just get curbstomped while Irelia lifesteals all her life back.
The point of mentioning supports is that Irelia is usually squishy if she can be bursted - but without cc she's unkillable. Few top laners both have the cc, burst and tankiness to single-handedly deal with Irelia, and none when she has a lead. That's the point: You need at least 2 coordinated champions to beat an Irelia with even a small lead, while she has some of the best tools in the game to outplay them.
We're not discussing Aatrox: I brought him up to point out that pro play presence is irrelevant in this context - because Aatrox is still around and played a ton in SoloQ despite pro play dominance.
And we're not even talking about how braindead Irelia' easy matchups are and how game defining she gets from it.
Kayle's ult is the worst part for me, she has free reign to do whatever she wants while I have to run for my life, it's like trynda's ult, press R to outplay
I mean i just cc lock them for there ult Direction
Yeah it’s really stupid, especially on a scaling champion that can kill you in 2-3 autos. I also hate Rengar’s W, Briar’s E and Bel’Veth’s E, etc, for the same reason. It feels really dumb getting point-and-click one shot by someone while you’re not even allowed to figh back, and often you have to burn Flash or Ult just to survive, while those champions lose nothing. It’s just terrible game design. Gwen W is another I hate, both for the fact it blocks all exterior damage, but it also grants her a lot of bonus resistances, and with her already high base resistance scaling, she becomes a tank with only Steelcaps (not to mention the amount of healing she gets from her passive, which always deals 70% of her total damage as %HP regardless of how many abilities she misses. Seriously fuck that champ’s design)
They changed Kayles ult to be more frustrating to play vs,her ult now has 0.5s cast and has a larger dmg radius
It's compensated by her nonexistent early game
@@D00ML0RD1 the champs I play only have 1 second cc. And with cho'gath is not really reliable to land Q, specially with all the movement both those have
Nerf Irelia: -5 Movement Speed. If you remember you remember.
better nerf Irelia
@@model84 it wasnt this, but was shortly after ehr rework that she was insnaely OP and the comunity begged Riot for a nerf. and that was the nerf.
Yorick’s ghoul mechanics need some smoothing over but aside from that he’s not really *that* bad imo
I think it would be cool if Asol's old passive moved more like an atom model instead of the fixed orbit movement
You're not alone on the A-Sol comment Vars. I had that same thought about the kit and old stars shortly after his rework dropped.
lmao Vars saying "I miss the boops" when 1 year ago he said the rework was good
Maybe the league community is starting to miss the ASol that took skill, was respectable and was unique ? Took yall 1 year but hey we got there congrats
I don't think Old Irelia was as stat checky as you're saying. Her E needing timing and understanding the fight to know if a slow is as good as it gets or knowing if you should wait for the stun was a cool interaction. Positioning yourself to ult changed a lot the amount of heal you'd receive and her W having duration made her open for clear windows when she was vulnerable. She also had 2 play styles on laning phase depending if you wanted long or shorter trades with one leveling E and the other W which is pretty interesting IMO.
There is nothing wrong at being an auto attacker besides of what Riot seems to think and I honestly think old Irelia was more nuanced than current Jax, a "similar" champion.
Asol had one of the most unique kits in the game and no one really feels like the old Asol. I HATE NEW ASOL.
yeah old asol was so much better and fun
I've mostly been playing close-quarter playstyles in League since Season 3, I'll just yap for champs and reworks that I reached Mastery 6 or higher for those who'd like a long read.
1. As long as there exists a way for Ryze to scale both ways between AP and Mana, he's never going to find a healthy spot; either he's an unkillable battlemage w/ tank+mana items while still AoE-gunning your team, or too weak to do either.
2. ASol was unique and fun back then, a battlemage with very satisfying "boops" with his star orbits-but is overshadowed by how depressing it is to fight any champ that dashes within his "no-no zone". Now, he's constantly spewing fire (even though lore-wise he views biting as "uncouth", and insists that stardragons only reserve their breaths for a dire situation or a grand finale). Vars is correct, he just needed abilities to consistently force enemies into his orbit like his current E+R.
3. Goodness, it's so polarizing to play Kayle. Back then you're a part-time ranged AP Tryndamere. Now, you're susceptible to being bullied even by a Nasus/Dr. Mundo until reaching Lvl 13 with 2-3 items. It's even worse when you realize that she can't go ideally anywhere else but Toplane if you really want to reach Lv16 ASAP.
4. I miss Volibear Q flip and E knockback. I know, they had to differentiate his Q from Singed E, plus apparently a lot of his teammates' skill issues are exposed by that displacement (missing skillshots when Voli flips the target)... But having an AoE cc, even just a short one, just makes so much sense on a godbear. Also helps with his job as a tank/juggernaut, but Riot said "Nope we goin' Ohmwrecker turret diving for 2 seconds."
5. Mordekaiser = AP Darius now. Made him more satisfying to play? Probably w/ isolated Q, but that's it. Instead of having the ability to command the dead enemy, he just gets THEIR HIGHEST BONUS STATS. Effective? Yes. Respects either his original or his new identity? Nope.
6. Skarner is good now. A bit too good in terms of CC (and also with his poke, as evident in pro play). However, now that his kit doesn't scale with anything major but HP and maybe Ability Haste, he's now even more reliant on having decent teammates than ever before. Also he's now a xenophobic boomer, lol.
7. As a Lv32 Aatrox main: STOP SAYING IT WAS BETTER THEN: HE WAS A BAD MASTER YI WITH A G.A. PASSIVE UNTIL TWO PATCHES BEFORE HIS REWORK. HE'S NOT RIVEN 2.0 EITHER, HE NEEDS PREP AND SPACING BEFORE ALL-INS; WHEREAS SHE'S GOOD TO RUSHDOWN WHENEVER. Do I miss the revive? Sometimes, but it's not necessary and not as much as I miss Old Aatrox E being a unique narrowing skillshot, ALONG WITH A FEW PATCHES AGO WHEN HIS CHAIN USED TO PULL CONSISTENTLY. XD
Kayle was the first champion I ever played back in season 2. While I never mained her, the rework felt like I lost something special"
I agree on Asol - but I really dont think old Irelia was better -I played her excessivly - but not anymore after rework - but I still share the opinion that her rework made her a better champ.
one of my issue with reworks too is they dont do what they did with gangplank, an event around him and gamemode was really cool and fun
I disagree with irelias rework mostly because i think you missed one main thing about reworks.
Those old champs were eating their respective creative space.
Lets use Aatrox as an example. Greatsword weilding being of death is a hugely applicable thematic that a lot of people would enjoy. But does old Aatrox feel like hes weilding a greatsword? Not really, but he was still eating the thematic space. Nocturn is another example of this. He doesnt really hit the horror of the shadows thematic with his kit, and if he was reworked they might not preserve parts of his current kit just for nostalgia when that would defeat the purpose of making an actual horrors of the dark themed champ.
To my point irelia feels way more like a blade dancer now where as before she felt more like a muscle brawler akin to Vi or Jarvan.
But thats just my 3 cents.
Yeah I love Irelia’s rework too, it adds a lot more skill expression and counterplay to her kit. The only issue is her passive + Bork absolutely deleting you when she shouldn’t be strong enough to, I wish she had less on-hit damage and relied more on needing to hit her abilities or something. It’s like how Yone and Yasuo were with Lethal Tempo, running you down with just autos, not even needing to Q..
I agree with this, except with the part about old aatrox, he never was intended to be using a big sword, he was a demon-thing artisan of war who used a way thinner sword that he uses know (and he did lift it with just one hand) the actual aatrox could fit perfectly his old style, the only mistake was making him Riven 2.0
@@obsessedwithcats exactly this, also I would mention the fact that Irelia (and other champions like yone and yasuo to be fair) shouldn't be able to build any tank item like jak'sho just because they already have they "two damaging items"
@@giovannicampostrini6309 new Aatrox feels like his older brother that came and said 'stop stinging them like a bee and make place for big boys, i'll show you how to flat them to the ground', but why he's so ugly;/ Besides explanation that it was boring is dull, he had a attack range (475 afair)/dmg buff on ult, but Kayle has it permanent and on steroids...and she somehow isn't played in pro and Aatrox actually was
@@model84 nah, totally the opposite, new aatrox feels like his the bratty spoiled younger brother who blames everyone for what he has passes through, old aatrox did have a way cooler personality, the new one is just overputting things on the champ thinking it would make him cooler like "yeah make him more angry, bigger and with a bigger sword" but in the end it just feels meh
I got into league just a few weeks ago and as soon as I saw Irelias kit, after thinking I prefer ranged mages in this game, I instantly saw how fun she could probably be. I come from OW where I main genji and the similarities with the dash resets immediately caught my eye. It’s a tough learning curve cause with all the matchups, systems, items runes etc in league, but when you get everything to work and mark multiple enemies… damn her current kit is satisfying
I miss old Asol, I would return to the game if I could get those rotating stars again
i always was so frustrated with riot for completely removing his passive
the way they could've just brought his new E and R and made passive still endlessly skaling on stars
giving him extra star on every 50 stacks, capping at 8 stars and after just increasing the max health % dmg of the passive
Mordekaiser is my least favourite so far. Even in Aatrox' case, at least the end result is fun to play. Current Mordekaiser is extremely boring though.
Swain is, plain and simple, a mess. At least he's getting another rework.
old Yorick was fine, he just needed a kit modernization. Give him hard cc maybe on W and some mobility like a conditional dash on E like azir and he will slide right in.
I miss Asol q and w, making a galaxy as you fly by just felt good, then style on them with your movement just felt good
On old asol q, I feel if they made it where you can hold q and his stars will rotate in an elipse following your cursor up to a certain range and had his stars rotate a little faster when he wasn't just hold using q would have helped him while not killing his whole character
3:28 The strongest sorcerer in history versus the strongest sorcerer of the modern era
Old Mordekaiser and Swain were my favorite champs. I played them a ton and now I can't find anyone to main since they're gone.
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As a Mundo main, I like what they did with his rework. They kept most of his kit the same, but now he has an actual passive
Ik it got its own video but I will never forgive the Swain rework
Ngl zac's alt ult grew on me while playing him support being able to control where the enemy champs stood was so huge yet at the same time could be devastating to your own team if used inproperly
His current ult is way more reliable and more usefull than the reworked one imo.
But that's just me.
With his Current Ult you can do alot of chaos during a teamfight and displace the whole enemy team, wich i prefer over a slow and telegraph attack.
@zacthesecretweapon9931 his current isn't bad really fun going ap with it, but I was just saying it made support zac just a little bit better imo
easy fix on aurelion sol: (Edit: i wrote this comment before watching the aurelion sol part XD)
keep his orbiting stars and old W but merge it into one ability, where at lvl 0 he has 0 stars orbitting him, and level up gives him one, 3 lvl 2, and 5th 3
keep his new flight, it's fine
keep his new passive
keep his new E and R
he really doesn't need his stupid breath attack
make it so if you hit 3 orbs you deal extra damage but it works in a way that if you miss, the 3 stack passive resets so it adds a reward to positioning good, keeps his old dynamic playstyle while being useful with the new spells
the reason why they never added more stars for old asol is because it does wonky things for your DPS. if he goes from one star to two it literally doubles his damage output for example. it makes for extremely sharp and frustrating powerspikes that are hard to balance around.
What if they used the stars, in conjunction with the stacking passive. Each stack giving the stars a slightly increased rotation speed (a teeny tiny amount). It would not be too hard to balance properly either.
Funny thing with Irelia is that she is really matchup dependent espacially on top. While Riven, Camille and Fiora can all jump towards the enemy or away Irelia can only go in if there isnt a random minion wave that gives her an out. She has to commit to fights. I guess thats also the reason she has been better in mid lately as the matchups there are better
the w change gave xin zhao more target access, but moving the atk speed steroid to the dash interferes with said target access. If the knockup went to dash and the atk speed went to q empowered autos, he could at least choose whether to empower himself against the melee infront of him, or the marksman he's trying to space to.
Talking about champions who had their previous identity removed in exchange for a rework and not mentioning Poppy or Mordekaiser (both of his reworks) feels like a crime. They changed Poppy from this Juggernaut to a full tank with any attempt at going full damage being nerfed in some regard if it even has the chance to exist. While Mordekaiser had that happen to him twice. Being changed from his original version to a bot laner for some reason then again with his vgu to something that really isn't even slightly close to either version except you can sometimes have metal floating around you.
Old Morde (Post S5 Bruiser Update) - literally just needed current Morde's E and fixing the spaghetti code ult in order to be a cool champ. RIP drake ghostie
Oh it's been awhile since I heard Persona 5's "The Days When My Mother was There." Really fits this discussion for the nostalgia.
Imagine A Champ That Has An Orbit Passive Like Old Asol. Maybe A Robot Champ With Drones That Orbit And Act As Very Small Hitbox Spell Shields That Can Tank An Enemy Skillshot.
As someone who mained old Sol and still mains him to this day, I love what the rework has done to him. His abilities feel so much better, and now I can actually use bushes.
New Asol is WAY better than the old one. Those people who think old Asol is better are trippin
I really miss old Asol :(
Never forget how they deleted Aatrox and made Riven 2.0 in his place.
Old Aatrox was actually good, playable, and enjoyable to play as, with, and against, in the single patch just before they deleted him from the game entirely.
It was weird that they decided to buff him into a solid state before the rework dropped, but it was just that: a patch. It is unlikely that Aatrox would have remained in that "perfect" spot as the intrinsic issues of his old kit always caught up to him.
The sad thing is they released a mini-rework that make him fun and playable like a few month before the rework, and people start picking him up and play him because of it too
The blood well and W damage/lifesteal toggle were such cool mechanics, I’m sad they’re gone now. Wish more champions played like he used to, I guess Yone or Gwen is the closest, but it’s not the same
The most gutted champ to date
Yuumi’s rework was just the worst ever. Like now u have no reason to ever get out of ur host
Imagine designing a champion to have a high skill floor and really good skill expression empasizing positioning but then punish mains anytime they do well for years and then replace it with a Veigar VGU
Asol didnt have a place in league apparently but Yuumi does?
As a person that plays mostly lethality yorick mid I feel offended
Idk if it's mentioned in this video but I miss old Galio, or at least his old ult, was such an epic ultimate
add rell. from a rell main her whole personality disappeared with her tether
Tether was nice, on click stun for any assasin that would try to jump on your adc along with heal on Q. But old Rell had one tiny bity problem... she was a god damn snail as soon as she jumped off her horse. 280 MS even minions move faster than that.
Tell me, please tell me that Galio was gunna be covered.
Don't give me wrong he is completely functional now and very fun BUT not in comparison to his OLD version! 😢
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Bro I can’t watch old asol clips it actually makes me too sad
I would increase Irelia's q cooldown. Just give her a window where if she messes her q resets you can counterattack. Now if she misses it's like it doesnt matter with her 5 s cooldown, she's about to jump on you or heal back up through spamming q in no time after she messed up the resets, it makes canceling her q through well timed cc and predictions feel so bad because it just doesnt matter.
No disrespect but if you complain about Irelia youre either low low elo or Play against Irelking in KR challenger
@@rambo-ram-0 Low emerald, i wouldn't say that's high elo but wouldn't say it's low low elo either lol. I don't think giving her windows when she is at a disadvantage is anything crazy. You can zone her out and deny her passive, but you expose yourself to ganks and the second that happens your advantage goes out the window and irelia has a monstruos advantage state. And when she gets vampiric scepter and mr or ad boots crashing the wave on her tower your advantage also flies away because she gets passive and healed back up, you can't zone her out anymore. I think she should be more punishable if played correctly against her, not anything crazy. She's not really an issue in TF but her laning phase is very frustrating to deal with. And it's a general consensus to the point where it's memed on. I think you are in the wrong and my complain is very legitimate.
nah low emerald is good. Weird i normally only see gold or below complain about Irelia out of all the champs
But i get your point if the irelia plays it right the laning phase can be annoying, but you have less pressure than her cause you know you gonna prob outperform her in teamfights
New asol has high playrate because new asol is super easy to play and extremely stat-checky. Even low and mid elo players spam him.
Gangplank. Avarice blade stacking critplank was hilarious. The barrels are just op.
Some people might love Fiddle VGU, but kit-wise he's clunkier than ever. I used to trade all day with QWE, but now it's a no-go with no-ult. The higher the elo, the less likely you're able to get the ultimate off in an effective manner because of vision and knowledge. Back in the day, I could E bounce and melt their team over walls when they come to clear vision prior to objective fights.
The new E can cancel a channel/silence faster, and has more cast-range, but pales in comparison to what his old one did. by late-game I had teams staying worlds-apart from each other to avoid the bounces.
He was my first main, and pentakill. Haven't played more than 5 fames on him since rework.
it brings it flaws defenintly, since fiddle is too relient on it's ultmate for pressure, as w is too restrive, e situational and Q is fun just needs something to follow up.
@@alexcat6685 Absolutely. I was never a fiddle player myself, but he was fun to pick up and play now and then. His old kit was much simpler, but fully functional, especially in 1v1 scenarios. The old W single-target drain was much better sustain than his current AoE drain. I do like the new passive, where he basically gets a free ward+sweeper combo, but the rest of his kit never felt right to me.
His old kit with the bouncing crow that silenced, and the single-target fear was adequate enough to use in teamfights. You simply feared away the most dangerous enemy, and made the fight a lot more favorable to your team, also by bouncing crows, silencing the enemy.
Even if you were behind, you were still a good use to your team. Unlike today's version, if you fall behind on him, you are being a huge detriment to your team.
pls make a video about the big class updates back then when they reowrked adcs, assasins, mages. Would be so nice to see cuz alot of the reworks got reverted
Damn your Aurelian fix is so good
I miss volibears flip so much...
I would rather they go back and remove Yone, I have a recording where Yone chased me past THREE Turrets and killed me. I DODGED EVERYTHING Yone threw at me, I dodged his Q knock up, I dodge his ult, if I could doge it I evaded it.
The sad part about ryze is that I really like the champion but I had to stop playing it because it's very clear that riot doesn't want anyone to play it. Ran into basically the same problem with hwei. Just a lot of people pretending the character is good because it can "potentially" do a lot when in actuality it does nothing and what it does manage to do, is always outclassed by every other character like it. I found a nice comfortable home with syndra though so it's all good.
I used to like the original Kayle support because her heal was surprisingly powerful if you built into it. I went to her after Soraka started hurting herself for her heals. I actually really like Aurelian Sol's new rework, it makes him a LOT more fun to play. I take him support because people don't really know how to play around him a lot and once he gets Rylai's he can slow very effectively to allow teammates to catch up.
Bias up front, I was one of the few people who old asol really clicked with. But new asol sucks balls. He's like veigar ult became a champion. Not fun to play as or against. Personally, I think all old asol really needed was passive ghosting. The most frustrating part of playing him was minions pushing you out of range during ur w. Getting rid of that would've made him tolerable for the people who loved him, less intimidating to pick up as a new player, and most importantly wouldn't mean getting rid of a playstyle you cannot find anywhere else. Don't get me wrong, he'd still have a reasonably low pickrate, but there's 150+ champs in league, there's obviously room on that roster for niche champions.
I'm glad someone else has noticed that he could reasonably pass as a Veigar VGU I was the same.
This is something I was just talking with my sister regarding Aurelion Sol. His old passive MUST be reinstated. In my opinion, here's what I would do to fix Aurelion:
Regain old passive and Q.
Retain current W, E, and R.
That said, I like the idea of making Center of the Universe his new Q mixed in with his W toggle.
Old Yorick could have been a great support champ. People slept on his potential.
It would be cool if you made a long form video detailing their life. It would be a lot of effort but it would add a whole new layer to them. Short form might work better depending on whatever you feel like. Anyway cool cat
Just a silly idea, but thinking about it it might just work. With the show Arcane Rito added the paralel world feel/impression, and with Zilean and Ekko being time manipulators they can launch a new event, where a chrono disaster caused past versions of reworked champions to show up. Either have them as playable characters, or enemy, or both. Imagine old AP Sion vs today's HP harvesting hulk.