Duskblade: One Of The Worst Items Ever Made | League of Legends

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  • Duskblade of Draktharr may very well be the "Ryze" of items, undergoing countless variations all just as problematic as the one that came before. Despite being reworked and readjusted so many times it eventually got taken out of the game for being too problematic. Today we'll be going over the history of Duskblade, one of the most hated items in League of Legends.
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  • @oneofthe12sionmains70
    @oneofthe12sionmains70 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1413

    Never forget that Rito said “we found invisibility to have too much frustration so we need to change this” and decided to replace invisibility with INVINCIBILITY

    • @Moakmeister
      @Moakmeister 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

      They often do the exact opposite of what they’re saying. Remember when they reduced Asol’s damage and claimed it made him “burstier?” I remember.

    • @BrutalSalamander1
      @BrutalSalamander1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +201

      "Are you tired of not seeing an enemy and being mostly powerless against them? Well now you CAN see them while being completely powerless against them!"

    • @TrueHylianKnight
      @TrueHylianKnight 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      That shit confused the hell out of me, I figured with them being "Untargetable" I could still hit them with untargeted AoE attacks right?
      wrong.

    • @doglopmaz
      @doglopmaz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The issue was the constant invicibility, that was the frustrating part, made the item an issue with reset champs like yi

    • @RavenDumpster
      @RavenDumpster 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It was so cool having an ability that already has zero counterplay be put on an item and used on champs that you already can't see or target 🙃

  • @itchyballsl
    @itchyballsl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +722

    the final version of duskblade was the worst for sure

    • @d_camara
      @d_camara 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      Current version is the best tho

    • @lillyie
      @lillyie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      duskblade is so overloaded it's split between multiple items
      it's vision denying component became umbral glaive
      it's passive upon getting a kill went to opportunity
      and the bonus auto damage and slowing is now voltaic cyclosword
      talk about being an overloaded item

    • @firek4306
      @firek4306 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I always felt like the final version of duskblade was just an ARAM item, it was disappointing in SR and ultra OP in ARAM to the point almost everyone was bulding it

    • @LexisVoyage
      @LexisVoyage 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@d_camaraits gone though???

    • @firek4306
      @firek4306 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@lillyieand the Nightfall passive kinda got turned into stormsurge

  • @lillyie
    @lillyie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +302

    duskblade is so overloaded it's components became split between multiple items
    the vision denying part became umbral glaive
    the passive after getting a kill became opportunity
    and the bonus damage on autos and slow is now voltaic cyclosword

    • @livingreverie5951
      @livingreverie5951 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Not to mention when Umbral first arrived
      Dusk got split Again with Sanguine Blade but that was removed

    • @jurivjerdha2467
      @jurivjerdha2467 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      and now with how much yuo need damage ingame unbral became literaly the most unpurchased iteam ever . That passive needs to be added to voltaic .

    • @jazzmair
      @jazzmair 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      stormsurge, opportunity, umbrave glaive, cyclo-sworl. wow, this item is cringe and overloaded

    • @lillyie
      @lillyie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@jurivjerdha2467 yea i've never seen anyone outside of senna players build umbral glaive

    • @livingreverie5951
      @livingreverie5951 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jurivjerdha2467 for laners yes, for supports that is just False
      its like a core on Senna, Pyke, and AD Shaco but youre not wrong.

  • @annenoose6444
    @annenoose6444 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +536

    i hope he talks about the history of bork and how crazily its been overtuned over its life time. (the dang thang used to do like 7 different things)

    • @velconx15
      @velconx15 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      The Ryze of items

    • @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.
      @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      200 years of game design experience.

    • @ashtonshephard3852
      @ashtonshephard3852 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think since they reduced borks passive damage in like season 12 it's been an okay item

    • @skelet8337
      @skelet8337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      You know i think we just got used to it since it's release Bork has never been bad it has been either decent item or straight busted for years so we just ignore how op it is and except anyone that can use the stats will build it.

    • @Topunito
      @Topunito 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ashtonshephard3852 it's crazy on some champs tho, like on irelia or jax it's a gargantuan first item powerspike that lets them beat some 2 item champs

  • @SuperWeeb9000
    @SuperWeeb9000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    I hated the last version of duskblade, the tool tip only said that you would become untargetable not invincible, but they never fixed that, it was infuriating watching someone get the proc, and then stop taking damage from ignite or dots, and walk away with next to no hp instead of dying. I think the vanish from the first mythic version would've been fine if it had like a 10 second cd.

    • @maxomega3
      @maxomega3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      see I distinctly remember them (kinda) fixing that by changing it from invulnerability to deleting projectiles, which was still stupid, but at least DOTs like ignite killed again

    • @antonioreconquistador
      @antonioreconquistador 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The vanish was pretty fucked because it gave champions a get out of jail free card, and stealth/untargetablility champions another. The mythic item bs made it so that it was your best option if you dealt good enough damage to utilize the stealth at all. I wouldnt want it on a new item, it made never-tuned master yis and samiras into invisible demons.

  • @Soepstengel2000
    @Soepstengel2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    If I can add my 2 cents: Duskblade to me always felt like more of a DotA item than a LoL item. It's something that, the moment you get it, basically adds a whole new feature to your character instead of enhancing the existing, unique identity that they already have. The risk with items like that is that every character ends up feeling/playing the same.
    The whole point about removing interactivity is a big one, but for me the fact that Duskblade turned every champion into the same unstoppable instakill persona was the real kicker...

    • @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.
      @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow what an awesome comment!
      This is genuinely a very good take!

    • @maciejkleszczynski9808
      @maciejkleszczynski9808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      " the moment you get it, basically adds a whole new feature to your character" is precisely what makes items good imo. Now the feature needs to be reliant on what your character already has. For example Rylai is good when you can reliably proc it and you dont already have a slow on the abilities that you apply the effect with. Duskblade is on the negative side of this because it didnt require anything from a champions kit - you could proc it on adc as well as on an assasin. This item may not have been ideal but it at least was an attempt to be an interesting choice, much better than items like Rabadons, Infinity Edge etc.

    • @1dingerr
      @1dingerr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      The biggest problem is items that create 0 counterplay. Rengar/Khazix with duskblade for example, can one shot the carry before anyone can cast a spell and then become untargetable and run away. Being able to one-shot isn't OP, being able to one-shot with 0 risk is. That's also why zhonyas is a bad item and should be reworked or removed at this point.

    • @Notllamalord
      @Notllamalord 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I don’t think that’s a huge problem design wise, it’s items like those (heartsteel, rocket belt, etc) that create interesting and varied builds. The problem with dusk blade was the invuln

    • @99temporal
      @99temporal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but the big thing about dota items is that the majority of them have counterplay IN OTHER ITEMS, so you are never hopeless
      Like, if duskblade was a dota item, i'd just buy a Dust of Appearance for 80 gold and badabing badaboom

  • @GuardianGrarl
    @GuardianGrarl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Pyke: *gets Duskblade*
    Everyone on enemy team: *d e a d*

  • @Abdelrahman-Darwish
    @Abdelrahman-Darwish 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You forgot one of the most broken uses of duskblade during its first few iterations when it had the nightstalker passive even when it was on cooldown you could ping the item and it will tell u weather or not u were spotted by a ward by a prompt in chat saying seen or unseen which was super useful for not buying control wards and not wasting trinkets

  • @omgodification
    @omgodification 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Holy shit playing against any assassin with duskblade was absolutely miserable

    • @worldiefeard8396
      @worldiefeard8396 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Honestly, it was even more miserable to play against *bruisers* with duskblade. At least Assassins there was the possibility to kill them before they kill you, but you weren't killing a Lee Sin, Aatrox or even Master Yi before they'd slice you to death and proceed to mow over the rest of the team while being invulnerable

    • @omgodification
      @omgodification 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Lets just agree it was miserable to play against duskblade period man

    • @APimpNamedSlickback09
      @APimpNamedSlickback09 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@worldiefeard8396duskblade aatrox was so fun seeing people disappear

  • @mercadier6312
    @mercadier6312 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    When the end of mythic items came, the #1 item change I was most happy about was "Duskblade is being removed". Not adjusted, not nerfed, just flat out deleted.

  • @looneymar9153
    @looneymar9153 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    only thing making it notable for me is it going from "Zed - The Item" to "KhaZix - The Item" to then "Thank fuck there isn't a whole ass champion that would be doing this without needing the item"

  • @Wildcat12
    @Wildcat12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Please god cover Bork. It has consistently been a problem that it feels like people refuse to acknowledge as an issue. That item did more than most of the mythics and basically every champ that can reasonably build it does. It single-handedly allowed builds like tank Yone to exist since it alone did more damage than building two crit items. It gives a massive burst of power on completion from stats alone, has CC, and acts as anti-tank and sustain. And it has one of the best build paths of any item in the game with both Recurve Bow and Vamp Scepter. There has never been a point in years where this item was actually bad.

    • @lillyie
      @lillyie หลายเดือนก่อน

      i like to think bork as gen 2 snorlax: sure it's meta defining and every team has one, but:
      if they ban Snorlax, Zapdos becomes broken.
      If they ban Zapdos, water types have no counters.
      If they ban water types such as Cloyster, Suicune and Starmie, ground types would dominate.
      it's the same way in league
      nerf bork: tank meta arises due to lack of ways to deal with tanks(remember they nerfed LDR to no longer have giant slayer passive)
      nerf tanks, the meta becomes "who can deal the most damage"
      nerf damage, tanks would be dominant again

  • @Keln02
    @Keln02 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It's a conceptually flawed item.
    Assassins need to pick the time and moment to snipe a target.
    If they fail to do so, they either miss the target, or fail to survive.
    Giving them an item that gives the a free escape means the positioning minigame isn't playing defenders advantage that hard

  • @strongerthanever2039
    @strongerthanever2039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Can't believe when you were listing most meta-breaking mythic items, you didn't mention divine sunderer.

    • @99temporal
      @99temporal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      divine sunderer was... ok. It was good for the majority of it's life time, but not even close to how broken banner, zzrot and ardent censer were at their peak

    • @strongerthanever2039
      @strongerthanever2039 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@99temporal What are you talking about? None of those were mythic items. I was talking about that part of the video when he got to s11-13.

    • @guifdcanalli
      @guifdcanalli 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@99temporalAre you a dirty bruiser player? That item was the epitome of why mythic system was a mistake, it was changed, reworked, nerfed and abused SO much over the course of just 3 years, it made low damage tanks fall off meta just because there was no way to trade against a 2s cd % shred+heal
      Divine Sunderer was the definition of overtuned

  • @Topunito
    @Topunito 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I started playing in season 8 so some of my most enduring memories of any sort of item or build come from the lethality miss fortune i played back then. duskblade gave me joy. that was a fun build.

  • @kreeperkiller4423
    @kreeperkiller4423 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of the things that made the last iteration of duskblade so versatile for attack damage champions was the percent increase in ability damage. Almost every single champ who wanted to deal damage with their abilities that scaled with AD now could realistically go duskblade, regardless of how their kit functions

  • @fernandocorreawitt6510
    @fernandocorreawitt6510 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Draktharr was a pretty good idea when it comes to its second iteration, when it had a vision-denying aspect. Then it became a bursty burst for bursty burst champions to add burst in top of the burst they already had, and then added the free exit card by adding invisibility and then untargetability, excluding one of the crucial weakness assassins had.

    • @einjharrelraca
      @einjharrelraca 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The last duskblade was so hillariously busted that even after removing half of what the damn thing did is was STILL the defacto second best item in the game. (if you didnt just consider sunderer a game mechanic considering how it was in EVERY game like i did.

  • @NargiKyrad
    @NargiKyrad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    that reaper comic with the duskblade almost made me fall from my chair

  • @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.
    @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    I did not knew Duskblade was 8 years old, I thought it was 3 or 2 and that it came out in 2021 with the Mythic item system.
    EDIT: Why the did I got so many likes?
    I guess you are all a bunch of new players as well that related with my statement.

    • @auag7208
      @auag7208 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lmao same, I started playing (very casually) a couple years before the shop rework, and until this very video I thought Duskblade was introduced with mythics!

    • @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.
      @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@auag7208 Same.
      Got into the game back in 2021, the tail end of it.

    • @KaiserAventus
      @KaiserAventus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same, but i am playing League for maby 8 years or So 😂

    • @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.
      @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KaiserAventus Based

    • @99temporal
      @99temporal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the same feeling, but for the opposite reason
      Duskblade feels like one of the new items, because i was already a veteran when they added lethality to the game(along with the assassin rework)

  • @bioraidos5454
    @bioraidos5454 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man the days of duskblade yi on aram were a nightmare. At least when it made you invisible there was still some way to counter it because you were invisible, not invincible. Then came the final version and oh my god. "Oh you worry about the invisibility? Well no worries! We took it out! And now who wields it is UNTARGETABLE!"
    Whoever thought that was a good idea was high

  • @jackt.8201
    @jackt.8201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I used to abuse full lethality + dark harvest rune + duskblade AD evelynn jungle. Her old E used to proc on hit effects whilst having an 100% AD ratio. She would literally, and I mean this wholeheartedly, one shot squishy targets with 1 ability because it was that powerful. You used to even sneak in a Trinity force too, to get the additional sheen affects. It was severely broken, and I abused it to get to Diamond before Evelynn was reworked, and unfortunately, lost any and all AD scaling.

    • @NaySan
      @NaySan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You probably used Thunderlord's Decree. Dark harvest was introduced in 7.22 while Evelynn was reworked in 7.20.
      New Evelynn also proc on-hit effects with e. I facepalm hard when I see Eves rushing stormsurge instead of lich bane, despite the fact that lich deals more damage, has no cd, no condition, and proc automatically.

    • @99temporal
      @99temporal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NaySan old ad eve used to use the battle bloodlust rune(that i forgot the real name... what is today's conqueror) or the deathfire touch one, if i remember correctly(sometimes the stormraiders surge, which is nowadays phase rush)

    • @akang69420
      @akang69420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ahh yes, the old duskblade+trinity+hydra

  • @TheDoctorOfThrills
    @TheDoctorOfThrills 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let's also not forget the terror that was lethality Miss Fortune during the first iteration of duskblade. She was one of its main users because of how Double Up worked.

  • @darkmatter9651
    @darkmatter9651 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That one clip where the master yi runs into fountain after getting a quadra and then he AFKs XD

  • @EddyConejo
    @EddyConejo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Final version of Duskblade on Illaoi was such a nasty combo. From 3 items forward if you could hit your E on someone that person was basically dead.

  • @Blu_Moon_Owl
    @Blu_Moon_Owl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Only been playing League for a year now so I experienced v4 and v5 of Duskblade. It was ALWAYS on a Samira or Miss Fortune when playing and it mainly sucked and rarely were we able to stop them before they popped off, but at least for me the last version of Duskblade was my personal favorite even though it wasn’t good for the game. I liked it on Rengar because if I managed to get my one kill, duskblade would save me from getting attacked by the other enemies and it felt awesome. Interesting how much it changed only to be gone for good

  • @MajinMattPlays
    @MajinMattPlays 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone who remembers when Duskblade was first introduced, I'm glad to see it go. Assassin Items in general needed a huge rethink and Duskblade was one of the prime examples of that since it was always incredibly powerful or nerfed into the ground. I've not played enough S14 to judge them now but I'm hoping they're better.

  • @gotted4439
    @gotted4439 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    idk why i smiled when i saw young redmercy
    good old days

    • @katoshuu
      @katoshuu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't watch him anymore, what happened?

    • @twrk139
      @twrk139 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@katoshuuwe all grew up

    • @ventu7907
      @ventu7907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@katoshuuhe de facto retired

  • @MemeAdicction
    @MemeAdicction 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the heathiest version of duskblade was the one with an slow+dmg on basic and invisibility on takedowns. Granted was a high risk high reward playstyle because you didn't have that big of a burst and can't just go in brainlessly or you just die by AoE, AoE cc, not point and click CC, but once you get the timing it helps the purpose of being an assasin go in burst someone get out wait for CDs. It just was overshadow by other OP items which was sad honestly.

  • @Ekaidseaky
    @Ekaidseaky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Im suprised duskblade in its final form lasted so long. It made aram and fighting anyone using it. Just a terrible experience

    • @magical571
      @magical571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, couldn't be happier it's gone

    • @FranciscoJG
      @FranciscoJG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would take Guardian Angel over that abomination on ARAM any day.

    • @Ekaidseaky
      @Ekaidseaky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FranciscoJG yeah 100%. At least GA they don't do damage during it

    • @mollywinegar241
      @mollywinegar241 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Duskblade master yi gave me PTSD with how horrid it was to go against in ARAM. 4/5 pentas in ONE GAME

  • @johangelrodriguez6835
    @johangelrodriguez6835 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    really miss my 3rd Ghostblade. Damage, CDR, Ward Clearingt. It was beautiful, specially with Talon

  • @davidreeding9176
    @davidreeding9176 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Do gunblade next please I miss that item and I miss you

  • @bonic7217
    @bonic7217 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Duskblade:Removed version 14.1
    Aurora:Added version 14.13
    Welcome back , duskblade

  • @daymianhogue1634
    @daymianhogue1634 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    God damn a throw back to Zed ult the item. Really funny they removed duskblade but some of the new lethality items are based on old versions of it... And they were just like "no, the name is cursed make it a new item, dont just revert it" also it and rageblade are the Ryzes of items with all the reworks

  • @stijnvanderhaegen6269
    @stijnvanderhaegen6269 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Kha'zix weeps

  • @h3nder
    @h3nder 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When they added the 5th Duskblade they saw how weak Fizz was and went "what if every AD character could become the Fish?"

  • @PhantomMarth
    @PhantomMarth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thankyou for your content, I thoroughly enjoy the videos

  • @rubinrobo2265
    @rubinrobo2265 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think when the nerf to only make you untargetable and not invincible was present for long enough to also be worth mentioning.

  • @mariannapapikyan4123
    @mariannapapikyan4123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People consider Fizz's E the most frustrating/broken ability to play against because he has untargetability on a basic ability on a short cooldown and they decided to give it to any AD champ

  • @LABVEAS
    @LABVEAS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot the Ezreal jungle incident, shooting Qs out of vision with Duskblade proc in every single one.

  • @PsQueak2
    @PsQueak2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn it Vars, right when I was getting over the trauma and almost forgot about it's existence!

  • @neonavaro25
    @neonavaro25 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember mainly the invisiblity one. The memory of Rengar and Nasus with that thing is seared into my mind.

  • @BLKCLVR
    @BLKCLVR 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I fucking hated Duskblade, after s10 it was the ultimate anti-counterplay item. I think the best version was the first one. It didn't help you annihilate squishies but assassins don't need help doing that anyways. It increased the number of targets that you could do significant damage to, allowing you to chunk people who would survive your burst combo. Probably not enough to finish them off, but enough to force them to base.

  • @Javixk17
    @Javixk17 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rest in peace my darling, until we meet again duskblade

  • @george5387
    @george5387 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My soul left my bad when he mentioned duskblade nasus,that question mark ping was so loud 😂

  • @SquidBow
    @SquidBow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIP, Duskblade. You will always have a place in my heart

  • @ip5676
    @ip5676 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Couple of curious notes from memory:
    Someone you wouldn't expect to use Duskblade 2 was Vayne, who could proc it with invisible tumbles if I remember correctly.
    I think Duskblade/Lethality Master Yi with Hail of Blades was more a product of him having no good on-hit build right after the Mythic item rework, moreso than Duskblade screaming "I'm broken on Yi" (though it certainly was and, even though I'm not a jungler, I had tons of fun with lethality Yi in normals).

  • @bastianpena2696
    @bastianpena2696 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i remember the short but hella fun time with Lethality Briar Duskblade

    • @magical571
      @magical571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you talk about as if briar came not even a year ago lol

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This item was so fun to abuse on Samira making her almost impossible to kill. Although, it was so tilting on a Shaco that could just be permanently invisible.

  • @bart10050
    @bart10050 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did not realise at the time, nor would I have the skill to exploit properly, the degeneracy of Ardent Censer during its meta. Regardless, this is when I found Lulu, and have played her to relative success ever since. So without being the flavor of the month meta player, I've found my main through this meta and it will forever have a special place in my heart.

  • @quivertheprotogen7905
    @quivertheprotogen7905 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know what would’ve saved Duskblade? If its passive had a lethality activation threshold similar to how Warmog’s has a bonus health activation threshold. I’m not sure why that kind of design idea hasn’t shown up again somewhere.

  • @chucklesxcore
    @chucklesxcore 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I swear, Vars speaks for all of us when it comes to our opinions on the shit riot has done with league. But he does it in a well spoken way. glad i found this channel.

  • @henriquemedeiros2840
    @henriquemedeiros2840 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    duskblade of invisibility was the funniest moment I ever had in league

  • @liamfairbairn3374
    @liamfairbairn3374 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Duskblade/stormrazer combo on hecarim when stormrazer waw first introduced is peak one shot meta. You came in like a train hit them once under tower, took 1 tower shot from entire interaction and left with 500 gold. Good times.

  • @markedfang
    @markedfang 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "invisibility on champions that were never considered with the possibility in mind" really hit home,
    especially when the items tooltip didn't actually mention the invincibility, causing a lot of confusion amongst my friends, and to me, who wondered what the imagined counterplay was to 1 squishy dying, followed by 1.5 free seconds of dps on champions specialising in ability resets to sustain their dps.
    Duskblade was a real "gee thanks" item. Riot makes a lot of "cool things," to make a lot of "cool things" happen, usually without consideration of the people on the other side of the screen.

  • @sans-99998
    @sans-99998 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like history stuff about items, do more pls.

  • @puddingsimon2626
    @puddingsimon2626 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Drakthaar is such a cool name idk why there isnt a darkin named like that, would go hard.

  • @stefanristic9245
    @stefanristic9245 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Correction ignite and any other dmg during a period of time could dmg you during duskblades invincibility riot changed it shortly after the items rework

  • @Nartanek
    @Nartanek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ngl i prefer when items are just stat sticks or have a small passive component. Champions should be able to stand on their own without the need of an active from an item to help them with dash, cc or what not. Tiamat and its derivative items are fine i think, so is zhonya because mages are balanced around it since it's always been there. I kinda have the same opinion about summoners spells though, i've been playing the game on and off since season 1 and i always detested the idea of summoner spells, especially flash since it's a no brainer 99% of the time. Don't get me wrong i do use flash myself but i would be glad if it disapeared from the game.

    • @xarao
      @xarao 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      chad ghost lovers rise up!

    • @Rockzilla1122
      @Rockzilla1122 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flatbrained take

  • @MourningSin
    @MourningSin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember when aatrox q got 20% more ad scaling and paired with the 18-20% missing health dmg from dusk was one hell of a time lmao 1.2k ad aatrox LITERALLY one shotting everyone who wasn't a tank

  • @marco2S
    @marco2S 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Started playing in s7 and I somehow absolutly cannot remember duskblade ever having a vision clearing passive.

  • @yoavivker510
    @yoavivker510 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to humbly request a video deep dive into items that gave a certain effect that should only be on certain champions to the entire roster.
    Like the invisibility/immunity of duskblade, the stasis of stopwatch, or the stun/root of everfrost...

  • @SaarlaneKretiin
    @SaarlaneKretiin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    something that is rarely discussed is that HOW FUCKING UNPUNISHING it is to build lethality. 350-400 gold? recall, buy longsword/dirk/hammer. you just cannot take or be forced into a bad recall. you can just mass buy them and its just flat good, and channels into all lethality or other AD items. no thought, no uniqueness.

  • @juangil5680
    @juangil5680 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started in s7 but I remember with the duskblade passive, even if it wasn’t up you would be able to tell if you were on vision or not. So you pretty much had oracle on you at all times which better players were able to completely abuse, that version was probably the craziest one

  • @Max-xp1wo
    @Max-xp1wo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The invisibility of the first version would have worked if it only triggered on kill; takedowns are too consistent to be balanced on a item designed for pentakills. Honestly, takedowns have ruined the skill expression of teamfights.

  • @shinreimyu
    @shinreimyu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who only plays aram, this item makes me hate Pyke with all my heart

  • @badmarch
    @badmarch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The funniest thing is that I used to dodge Hecarim lobbies when the item gave invincibility. It's been so op that even now I consider to ALT f4 when I see the champ in enemy only to remember 3 seconds later that the Immunity is not in hecarim abilities kit.
    The likes of Hecarim and Lethality Vayne went from 10000 to 0 in just one removal of the item and vayne went back to building normal again. It's honest baffleing.

  • @ChristopherGamington
    @ChristopherGamington 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An item should never completely change the identity of a champion, and if it does, you’ve missed the mark.

  • @alanyang7801
    @alanyang7801 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember the VERY FIRST iteration of duskblade allowed you to do 500 flat dmg coming out of stealth/invis. I remember abusing this on Vayne, but this iteration of duskblade didn’t even last a week I believe.

  • @FilthyGaijin
    @FilthyGaijin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:10 yooo Redmercy and reworked Rengar, now that was a trip down memory lane

  • @AndresLopez-st3lz
    @AndresLopez-st3lz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still remember that game where our jg YI got 2 pentas because he used this item, the enemy team didn't have any CC 😭

  • @LDGRXR
    @LDGRXR หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember during the last rework of duskblade, naayil found out how broken the % health damage and invulnerability was with Aatrox. Almost every game you would see one rushing that item and it was usually game over for top lane. Fun times. Also gp, who could get duskblade and essence reaver by 15mins thanks to bankplank meta, making his q and barrels oneshot before baron was even up lol.

  • @ednorthon
    @ednorthon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 2nd version also suffered from the item pool of Lethality, you had to build a rigid build with almost zero flexibility. It's would have been much better if it had been released today. I used to go Duskblade + full Lethality + RFC Vayne into squishies team, it was extremely snowbally but fun

  • @alexmercer2743
    @alexmercer2743 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Fire Emblem music got me listening close to every word

  • @emmas1366
    @emmas1366 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember playing against a duskblade leblanc as a newbie support/mid mage coming into the game.. the first time i ran into it was probably one of the most WTF moments id ever experience in league even now 2ish years later

  • @forestpacyfista6841
    @forestpacyfista6841 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was wondering... Why don't you make podcast from your videos? I would 100% listen to them cause you have good voice for it and most of the time your sound from videos can live without (still cool) cinematic :3

  • @zacthesecretweapon9931
    @zacthesecretweapon9931 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The number of time i tried to CC an assasin with duskblade just to be nulified because he got the invicibility has to be the most infuriating thing ever

  • @CrazyStarSuga
    @CrazyStarSuga 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe I am mistaken but I believe Duskblade was also built on old Twitch. If I remember correctly, SSW imp was building it on Twitch in the combination with BOTRK on Worlds 2014 which is weird considering you said in the video that Duskblade was only viable with the combination of another lethality items.

  • @gaogoch4133
    @gaogoch4133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahh good ol days of full lethality Wukong starting tripple dorans rushing duskblade ghostblade and one shoting anything and everything!

  • @kaisercheese4011
    @kaisercheese4011 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whenever Vars does the cinematic camera spinning around fights at an angle it makes me get motion sickness ;(

  • @xarao
    @xarao 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    when duskblade only gave you invisibility it was fine because you could still track the person and deal damage to them, after they removed it, the item became broken and overtuned, giving anyone who built it extra damage AND being INVINCIBLE(unless you were affected by a DoT), even mages who did AP damage were building it

    • @datzfatz2368
      @datzfatz2368 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it wasnt fucking "Fine", it was not as terrible as the next itteration but it was still a toxic, unblananced, unfun to play against piece of shit. The only Version of Duskblade that was somewhat ok in design was the vision denial one but even that was way overtuned statswise. Whenever Duskblade existed, it made the game worse. Garbage Item, fuck this item, good riddance. I hope it never comes back.

    • @xarao
      @xarao 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@datzfatz2368 ehhh, i'd rather have full vision of the entire enemy team rather than not being able to see just a single enemy, if they had kept only the invisibility and removed the extra damage it gave, then i guess it would trully be "fine".

    • @datzfatz2368
      @datzfatz2368 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xarao nah man, giving champions invisibility is wrong and stupid. Duskblade yi Proved that more than enough. Duskblade is now exactly where it needs to be. Not existing is the only state it is truly fine in

  • @pcp3
    @pcp3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    conq duskblade draven will be the most enjoyable thing i have ever played in this game. will be missed by me but is the best for the health of the game bc those pentas on samira were always unfun moments

    • @ashtonshephard3852
      @ashtonshephard3852 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You don't miss being oneshot from nowhere in the middle of your team by a talon and then he just hops away without taking any damage because he was invis before during and after his combo?

  • @TheEphemeralEternity
    @TheEphemeralEternity 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How about a video on our lord and savior ohmwrecker?
    Even if it wasn't a good item, I loved making enemies that thought they were safe under tower cower in fear and confusion.

  • @llyavejryn6345
    @llyavejryn6345 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    duskblade yi will always be remembered as a nightmare we lived thru

  • @kirb1430
    @kirb1430 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like how in season 7 they removed the 99% slow for ranged, then in season 11s item rework, draven jhin and mf were busted because of the 99% slow they added back, for no reason as if they completely forgot that part of it.

  • @murloc0518
    @murloc0518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The worst thing was when ADCs were just building lethality ONLY which resulted in them being able to 3, 2 or sometimes even 1 shot you and go completely unkillable for 1.5s

  • @Rank1GalliPlayer
    @Rank1GalliPlayer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite part about duskblade "from a zed mains pov" was how they made a new item with zed ult passive only to then nerf Zed Ult because it was to strong with the new item. They then changed duskblade to version 2 but didn't buff zed back again.

  • @eduardobetancourt6677
    @eduardobetancourt6677 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The final dual blade was hilarious because it was basically an AD mage item that also for some reason still had the invulnerability passive (looking at lethality Yorick and Jayce)

  • @KingStratzah
    @KingStratzah 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Smite we have something similar but no where near as volatile, Shadowdrinker. Has good stats, move speed, and good pricing. The passive basically says “gain stealth for several seconds after killing an enemy god (champion). Though stealth in Smite works in an Interesting way; If the stealthed target is delt dmg, you reveal them as a semi-stealthed target for that instance of damage (DoTs work very well to reveal the target). The item works super well in 1v1 matchups or as a bonus for characters that already have stealth. The item is no where near as powerful as yours and it’s never been meta but it’s kept in the game because it’s just fun to use.

    • @KingStratzah
      @KingStratzah 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, the on-hit effect your item has is wild. We have a character, Thanatos, who’s death scythe does base dmg + % hp dmg. If he could use your item it would be nuts. He already nearly one shots early and chunks late.

  • @vladmatei7171
    @vladmatei7171 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    honestly, remove umbral glaive(only senna and pyke builld it, and when it was meta on midlane assasins and jglers ,it was so boring) bring back duskblade, make it it insta kill the first ward your spotted by , plus a lil damage on auto

  • @georgesummer536
    @georgesummer536 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will never forget Hecarim with Duskblade and Manamune

  • @hims1245
    @hims1245 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot Vayne abusing duskblade invisibility with her R. Never forget Vayne maxing Q and slowing you while she runs at you and dissapear every 1 sec

  • @Korhi
    @Korhi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who frequently plays ARAM, I cannot understate how glad I am this piece of shit item is gone.

  • @JunkMeister.
    @JunkMeister. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I miss building the invisibly version on shaco so bad. Ad Shaco really hasn’t been the same since they removed it last April or may. I never really heard people complain about that version, they should’ve kept it tbh (I’m totally not biased)

  • @max-fu4jd
    @max-fu4jd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While not being exactly balanced and being abused by other classes of champions, the 4th iteration of duskblade was my favourite, it was fun even when i died to a duskblade nasus, but then master yi had to be too damn powerful.
    But man i miss 7 sec of uninterrupted invisibility on kha'zix to screw with yi's head looking for penta

  • @yeetussdeletuss907
    @yeetussdeletuss907 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    god I miss the funny drakktarr passive, i get most people remember the invisibility( and invincibility) but I fell in love with the ability damage increase.

  • @Worstfreelancer
    @Worstfreelancer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think there was a "healthiest" version, but my favorite was the invisibility version because me and my friends would do silly matches in norms where we all built duskblade and then everyone would disappear after a kill. Good times.

  • @skate4life221
    @skate4life221 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    but who else still sad reminiscing about all the pyke pentas from the invis duskblade iteration. my favorite league interaction of all time was healing back to full hp after executing someone on pyke

  • @TheDoctorOfThrills
    @TheDoctorOfThrills 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every time Duskblade was iterated it seemed to be for a specific champion to use it exclusively. Zed first, then Khazix, and so on

  • @Trime8istus
    @Trime8istus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's a weird wish but, Riot could give an second chance to the item by making an champion out of it.
    It's an Darkin, slap something that breaths on the duskblade and make an descent champion out of it.

  • @zinmoney96
    @zinmoney96 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:12 Master Yi leaving the game after failing to get a penta is exactly how I picture Yi players.