I judge your very weird, off-meta builds.
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as a way to spice my gameplay up, i asked my twitch community for their weird, off-meta builds, stuff they thought no one was running. and then i gave them a spin.
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Datto might be the only creator that I don't actively skip through ads. There's too many gems like "meta this, meta that, when was the last time you met a girl?"
Thanks for trying my dunk build❤️
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shit had me rolling
This man cooked an entire community. This should be movie of the week.
Couldn't help but read this line in Rhulks voice. The ad read was cool too I guess, once I got to it.
I’m a girl and still called out 😭
All 12 of us Heartshadow fans have finally been given some recognition.
Ong I been using this build for a minute
I'd like to try it if only the dungeon dropped it
I’m going to try this one out!
One of the better applications of Heartshadow is Crota; if nobody brought Tractor Cannon (or if you just wanna use this to extend someone else's Tractor Cannon) you can do a Heartshadow heavy attack into an aggressive shotgun shot and then back to Heartshadow for another heavy to perma-weaken Crota and do reasonable-ish damage at the same time. Shoutouts to Aegis for pioneering that one.
@@diegocj02bruh fr fr the rng in this game is cursed
That meta transition is probably my favorite ad sponsorship I've ever seen
I love Salvation's Grip now. With a Wave frame it's just bowling with Ice.
I initially read this as blowing with ice and it made me think of her...😢
Its pretty cool gun! What do you run it with?
You run dimensional hyper whatever it is? The heavy stasis wave frame?
@@zachstinnett5475how would that work if they have the HEAVY exotic on?
in my experience wave frames shatter one crystal and then the wave proceeds to cease to exist lmao
Datto doing the sponsored bit like jez now is amazing
Totally not me fanboying over getting into a Datto video with the Heartshadow build.
(Build is from Selfu back in season of the seraph, adapted for the new armor mods and Greaves buff this season)
Definitely was one of the more surprising and unique builds selfies made
Congrats and you have good taste
Waiting for Selfu to come back. Man went away again after showing up for Craftening.
I did use weavewalk with the dawn chorus build before it was nerfed(they nerfed threadlings/NTTE turret dmg when you are in weavewalk), you tag the enemy with sky-burner then enter the weave, the scorch ticks deploy perched threadling, the scorch ticks also regenerate melee energy.
You will always have full melee as long as you dont over use it+ have invis/dmg reduction on command.
Just wait until people find out about my strand hunter build with graviton forfeit and rat king
I have a funni Strand Hunter build with Stompies for PvE, the exotic weapon of choice isn't really off meta, but I'd say the build and playstyle kinda is, especially for it being PvE and not PvP
Rats
@@jackr.t.4459 if you havent tried it, you should try manticore with stompees in pve, that airborne dr should work with the floaty mechanic it has, and the catalyst also gives dr on kill
Invis and beyblades?
You WHAT!?
I hope we as a community use this time to Get Silly With It. Feels like we used to get silly with it more often but then the content mill took over. This is a great start.
6:58 Isn't Circadian_Wolf the guy that helps Myelin Games with his lore videos? The dude is one of the best lore masters I've ever come across. The guy knows things.
I knew I recognized that tag! Good eye
I've been using a stasis titan setup with Cadmus Ridge Lancecap and Wicked Implement (with diamond lance, rally barricade, and the Wicked catalyst, ofc). Against other builds idk how it would compare but the build carried me through pretty much any GM after the nerf to Strand suspend.
buried bloodline for devour, hoil for regen, stasis titan with cryoclasm and either lance or shard on shatter.
get devour up, then start chucking nades, slide to break, then barricade / lance / melee something to get the nade regen flowing while you kill things with your gun, then do it all over again.
alternatively, bloodline + armamentarium + shards + leg mod that grants armor charge on subclass pickup + nade kickstart.
very kill heavy to keep going but throwing glacier nades and sliding into them like a human bowling ball is tons of fun
For Gambit, I have the invader build that I use all the time.
Ruinous Effigy, Wanderer Tangle, Eager Edge sword. The idea is to prep up whatever ball you want or need before invading. Then you use either Ruinous to dunk on people you see close to the bank, using your grapple to catch them off guard. Or you use a tangle to fly across the map and hunt them down
Dude! I wanted this video to be twice as long! These are such fun videos that the community have been posting and I want more.
I personally like to combine the two types of turrets we have in D2 (Bleak Watcher and Edge of Intent) along with Osmiomancy Gloves, Iceflare Bolts, and just the fastest grenade regen and as many special ammo finders to fill up the battlefield with healing and freezing turrets
I call it "Winter's Remedy"
Arc-lock, The Stag, arc weapons (Delicate Tomb or Grand Overture, depending on if you want ad clear or DPS), spec for maximum traces. Nothing crazy, just constant rifts with souls and 25% damage reduction. A fantastic utility option people aren't using. Another Warlock option, again not too convoluted - Strand-lock, Karnsteins, Vexcalibur - strand suspend, solar cure and resto, void overshields off the glaive; glaive melee kills cause 3x cure and procs resto; use the obvious melee etc mods and the obvious Strand artifact mods this season.
@TDT the ole "glock and balls" for the ruinus effigy
I got you a build that I really love! It’s called Fast As F*** with Friends and it’s a Lumina and Speedloaders on a solar subclass. After dodging near a teammate for a bit of extra stats, get a kill with lumina and shoot your friend. Rinse and repeat for up to an additional 50 AE, 55 handling and reload speed, 0.89 reload modifier and 35% more damage basically all the time for you and your friends. It does feel like a bit of work to pull off but with a healing grenade and the dodge that gives you radiant on a solar special weapon kill (I use a judgement of kelgorath with incandescent and demo for the upped healing grenade charge but it’s just preference), you can just keep up 55% increased damage and a ton of handling and reload speed (which really offsets the whole, “having a heavy clunky glaive” thing) basically for free. The only issue with this build is that it doesn’t really work solo, good luck proccing lumina on yourself, but yeah have fun with this, it’s one of my favorite builds ☺️
When I want to mix things up a bit I play with the exotic SMG 'The Manticore' combined with the Titan Leg Armor 'Lion Rampant' and damn near spend more time in the air than on the ground. Obviously I'd never waltz into a Raid/Dungeon or GM nightfall with this set up but its fun to use when patrolling or doing low level strikes from the Vanguard list.
I love using stasis Titan! I feel like to be effective you need to make shards and have all the fragments that give you an overshield or damage resistance. I feel like you need the shatter slide as well, but that's more personal preference. I honestly just enjoy shattering crystals
I’m an average player who always struggled with lost sectors.
Tried the heartshadow build and I’m in love. Never completed lost sectors more efficiently. Had a ton of fun with it.
Thanks whoever suggested it in this video.
6:26 Try swapping in the Weavewalk aspect, since it uses Melee Energy. Also the scorch ticks triggers the threadligns you generate while in weavewalk :)
I have a solar titan build with Precious Scars that’s dummy fun. Basically use the melee radiant fragment, and then all the fragments that boost scorch and ignitions, and let the uggo hat do all the healing. Use a good incandescent weapon (Zaoli’s works well), and just blow stuff up while giving everyone heals.
I dunno that it’s GM ready, but it’s so low effort and fun, it’s worth a try. I use it in Coils and dungeons/raids - the res over shield is nice, too.
I have a pvp build that I consider off meta since I'm probably the only hunter who plays strand in pvp without threadlings or threaded spectre. Also, I've never ran into anyone using it against me.
Spoiler: It's literally just my strand PvE build but in PvP.
Grapple grenade
Whirling Maelstrom + Widow's Silk
Fragments: Ascent, Generation, Binding, Transmutation
Exotic: Cyrtarachne's Facade
Primary: Any strand primary you like. Quicksilver is accessible enough but the iron banner strand auto is nice too. Personally I use Rufus' Fury.
Secondary: Your favorite shotgun/glaive
Gameplay: Aggressive. You exist to do 2 things: make tangles and grapple melee anything that moves.
Every time you grapple you get woven mail, even if you just quickly tap and cancel it to leave a grapple point. Any kill with woven mail active spawns a tangle. Grab the tangle, throw it into a crowd while grappling onto it to fly through the map and melee whoever is in your way. Survivors of the melee are to be executed via shotgun/glaive or they will die to the maelstrom if they don't move quick enough. The tangles, Whirling Maelstrom and the grapple points all serve to keep up your grapple usage as you can grapple to them with no cost. This will ensure you have woven mail, tangles, maelstroms and melee kills all game.
Your -whirling maelstroms- green beyblades of death are not to be underestimated either. If you can't make it to a tangle to pick it up, shoot it to have it roam around after any neaby enemies. Note that while you can't pick up enemy tangles, you can shoot shoot them to spawn your own green beyblade.
The Void Titan with heart shadow looks realy fun, might give a try and the stasis hunter as well.
Oh hey I love the Ruinous builds! Space Jam with Blink/Devour (or stasis lock to help Ruinous because it’s the worst base trace rifle, and it gets a sizable damage bonus on frozen targets) was my fav party loadout before I quit playing the game in season of the deep. Glad more folks get to appreciate it now!
i present to you one of the builds of all time: "oops! all overshields!"
as the name suggests the goal is to be able to get an overshield from every weapon and ability equipped. if it wasn't already obvious this is a void titan build. this is not what i would call an endgame build. or a pvp build. or a particularly useful build.
aspects: bastion + offensive bulwark
fragments: can't remember the fragment names off the top of my head (will maybe update after i wake up (its 1am in my time zone))
melee: throwing shield
grenade: vortex grenade (applies weaken with the proper fragment)
class ability: whichever barricade you prefer
exotic armor: no backup plans (armor mods aren't super important across the board so run whatever you feel like)
kinetic slot: a (legendary) shotgun of your choice (1-2 punch recommended for punching reasons)
energy slot: vexcalibur (catalyst optional, but i personally use grave robber)
power slot: any (legendary) weapon with repulsor brace (for example, the regnant heavy grenade launcher (regnant can also have destabilizing rounds, so probably run that in the other column))
with this, you can get an overshield from 1) your barricade, 2) your (charged) melee, 3) your kinetic slot, 4) your energy slot, and 5) your power slot (provided whatever is blown up is weakened/volatile first (being able to apply weaken with a grenade helps)). ironically, you don't get an overshield with bubble (the super i usually use with this build) unless you wear the helm of saint-14 (i think).
"but," i hear you ask, "why?" the answer is twofold: having an overshield speeds up your grenade recharge rate, allowing you to weaken chunky enemies more frequently. more importantly, though, having an overshield gives you a ~25% damage boost (i think) to both your shotgun and vexcalibur melee. Getting kills with either also refills your overshield and refreshes the timer (up to 15 seconds with the fragment). this was definitely better when double special was a thing, but probably still works fine overall (i haven't played the game in months). if it doesn't, switch out the kinetic slot with a weapon of your choice and the exotic armor to whatever you prefer, as, at least for me, vexcalibur is used more in the build, since being able to guard with the glaive provides a quick and easy way to get a bit of overshield, which is all you need to gain the benefits listed above (though i am biased as a glaive enjoyer).
as an added bonus you become purple. barricades and guarding with vexcalibur also make your allies purple. this is good because purple is the best color.
Loved the invis Titan/Heartshadow build. Not sure if it's "off-meta" but I love using Titan stasis w/ Veriglass and icefall Mantle. Usually with wave frame and Bump in the night (or Dragon's breath). Spec aspects and fragments so being near crystals reduces damage and crystals cause more damage. I've used it in some Master LS and GMs pretty well.
I actually use a similar build to the first one! Instead of Hoarfrost I use Armamentarium, since it gives more control over where I place my crystals and has less risk involved. I used cryoclasm instead of diamond lance because it was significantly more fun to slide into crystals and remove half the map. It can actually hang in higher level content, since the overwhelming burst dps will nuke champs almost instantly. Very fun build! I use Appetence and Indebted Kindness with it for some extra kick
oh im definitely trying this one out
Verglas + envious assassin on waveframe. Shoot crystals, swap to waveframe, shoot and swap back to bow. Kills reload with envious and charge the crystals back
Cool to see some love for Ruinous Effigy. There's something so satisfying about dunking orbs with it for fun
Stasis Hunter, Radiant Dance Machines, Gambler's Dodge, you fill in the blanks.
Dodge, shuriken spam, freeze everything. There's your build.
Hi Datto, one build that i have been having fun with that was talked about in chat (original poster was a twitch user named Xtra) was the Stylish Excecutioner Monte Carlo setup. The goal of the build seems to be to emulate suppressing glaive from the witch queen launch season.
To start the chain get a melee kill that procs stylish excecutioner. Then activate the beyonet on Monte and your next stab after the too stylish debuff wears off will weaken and turn you back invis. While invis activate the beyonet again and repeat.
The original user that posted the build used khepris sting on hunter for this as they said the damage increase would help get a smokebomb kill. In my testing the 50% increase to the shit damage of smokebomb is still shit damage and found either omnioculus or graviton forfiet to be better for this.
The build is extremely fun and if you'd like i can post my dim link.
Super glad for this video. Could use some new builds to start having fun again during this downtime
I run something very similar to the first build! I replace hoarfrost with Precious Scars or CRL and use a Demo+Headstone Horror Story and Indebted Kindness. I feel that Scars does a pretty adequate job of giving you just enough survivability to stay in the fight even when the content gets a lot harder. Indebted does an amazing job at taking out beefier enemies while being ammo efficient, and Horror Story makes an absolute joke of your grenade cooldown. I went from being a Void main to Stasis Main over the course of this year and I'm so excited for the rework which I hope we get before Final Shape.
Love these types of videos. Hope to see more in the future.
I personally use a Monte Carlo for a weighted knife centric build. Forget what the aspects and fragments are, but it's built around keeping Radiant uptime for as long as possible, trying to get precision kills with the knife because it'll refund the knife, your dodge (which should be Acrobat for more Radiant), and give you Radiant. Pairs nicely with Sixth Coyote, Sealed Ahamkara, and Ophidia Spathe.
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My current favorite build is a void hunter support build focused on making the enemies take more damage and to do less damage. I was lucky enough to get a lethal abundance with slice and onslaught so when i dodge i go invisible and after shooting someone they get severed. On top of that with the artifact perks and void subclass fragments picking up an orb of power gives both unraveling rounds and devour. With this i use divinity as my special weapon and i use the single shot tether with the orpheus rig exotic to fire tethers all the time and make orbs for everyone.
Loved this video. Hope to see a part 2
This was kind of cool to see! Would definitely watch more off-meta builds videos
Verglas and Stasis Hunter is my absolute fave. I usually use Frostee5 with it to just get more crystals via my grenade, but mayhaps I'll try Bakris for a little while
PLEASE make more of these videos, these builds are so fun. The heartshadow especially.
Datto PLEASE do more of these build showcases. Love it.
Not quite sure if this has been covered already or how off meta this is, but something I’ve been running quite a bit lately is heirarchy of needs+prometheum spur+mindspun invocation with shackle grenade+weaver’s call. The main fragments that you need are thread of generation and thread of mind. The idea is that you camp in your rift with weaver’s trance and guidance ring and pick off enemies from afar.
With the scorch strand setup, I run something similar, but with Tommy's matchbook, and weavewalk. Because DOTs can pull threadlings whilst you're generating them in the weave.
that dawn chorus one is fun with weavewalk, as the burn ticks both increase weavewalk's duration and cause hatchlings to start attacking enemies immediately
Bungie nerfed that exploit a while back, it doesn’t work anymore.
I've been waiting so long for any kind of modern Ruinous Effigy build or review
I have an arc titan that uses fists and DARCI to stun practically every thing. darci usually helps put down overloads when ur out of special on a voltshot weapon or at range. not designed for incredible dps, but it is somewhat ok for multipurpose use
One of my favorite builds for ✨visual stimulation✨ is stasis titan with armamentarium and salvations grip. I use salvager’s salvo (and non-wave special GL should work too) because if you line it up right, you can shatter all of salvation’s charged shot crystals with one special GL shot. Lots of fun explosions
i love this video, this should become a regular series
Stasis titan with armamentarium and elemental charge... and Quicksilver storm. You can run this set up with wicked implement or Vurglas but I choose to fuse the Darkness subclasses.
Dispite the nurfs to grenade kickstart you can still use elemental charge and stacks on stacks to significantly buff your grenade regen by constantly getting 4 armor charges per grenade throw.
On top of this you can take advantage of quicksilver storm and to create tangles and your grenades to create lances. Using both of these will help you clear rooms very quickly and control the flow of the battlefield. On top of this having two grenades and a towering Barricade let you make a fort... which is fun and on occasion useful when your teammates inevitably die in a silly place during a GM nightfall.
if you liked ruinous effigy, id recommend trying it out with strand as well. you can grapple while holding the ball and dunk from the air, and its so much fun once you get the hang of it lol. liked the video datto!
Here's my off-meta GM Arc Warlock using Rat King, Vesper of Radius, and a Glaive.
Subclass: Chaos Reach, Arc Soul/Lightning Surge, Electrostatic Mind, Blinding Grenade
Aspects: Beacons, Resistance, Brilliance, Amplitude (Shock and/or Focus work too).
Weapons: Rat King, Albedo Wing (Replenishing Aegis + Lead from Gold) (or approx.), Hot Head/Arc DPS Heavy
Mods: literally anything for high Resilience/Recovery, Insulation on boots, plus maybe a Utility Finisher + Charged Up + Damage mods
Exotic: Vesper of Radius
Gameplan is throwing down Blinding Wells at enemy spawn points, slaying with Rat King to become Amplified (slaying arc debuffed (blinded) targets), cause Health Regen, and become Invisible. From here you can use Glaive to explode Thrall level enemies, Blinding their larger allies, and gaining even more rift energy from Insulation + VoR's innate perk. Find the next add spawn, throw down a rift, clean with Rat King, and probably get your new rift back before your last one left from the double orb pickup of Kinetic Siphon + Spark of Amplitude going into Insulation.
You have Invisibility, Glaive Shield, and Blinding to get you out of trouble, to Rez allies, and all chain into each other meaning you can blind entire floors of adds from thrall up to Unstoppable Ogres!
Been using a Monte Carlo-one two punch shotty-radiant dance machine arc hunter melee build for what seems like forever now and it’s still so much fun
As a warlock main, I cooked up a very fun PvP strand titan build. It contains arbor warden, the aspect that makes your barricades suspend, the fragment which increases how long suspend lasts, grapple, Necrochasm, and a sniper.
Edit: And sometimes if you're lucky, you can throw the barri-nade right on someone and they will take dmg from the barricade and the suspend.
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Astrocyte Jam is uniconically really fun in pve, if you blink straight up from in the middle of a crowd you can apply volatile and then slam dunk to absolutely DISINTEGRATE everything in a 2.5 kilometer radius. It feels like an ultrakill combo the way it synergizes to create a massive explosion.
so i do have a build, play titan use aeon safe with sect of vigor, strand with banner of war, into the fray.
Have thread of transmutation, thread of wisdom, thread of warding and thread of generation, have shackle grenades and rally barricade.
The only required weapon is vexcalibur, its a very heavy support role build but instead of using banner of war for myself i use it for teammates since when they get kills within the banner the duration get increased. Aeons give a 2x resist when they are low heath and swap to vexcalibur to give them and myself overshield and tangles giving woven mail (btw they stack). but i do suggest having lucent blade and void reverses/holster/surge, and proximity ward and dont be too aggressive let teammates do the heavy lifting
With the dawn chorus build, use the melee Regen with scorch to keep weavewalk up for longer and launch threadlings with it, it's fun
Honestly, I’ve been using the kehpri’s void titan build for a while now, but with tommy’s matchbook, and i think it works fairly well. They balance each other out.
Shatter Titan is good with a wave frame if you can't shatter close. I've been enjoying Salvation's grip with Shatter Dive on hunter, usual boops thing around.
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With a crystal build you may aswell carry a hakke weapon. The pistol and scout can break them in 1-2 shots from any range alowing the build to work at anyrange. Very fun in things like alters of sarrow or vex incursion
Salvations grip has quickly become one of my favorite exotics as of late, especially when paired with any wave frame with lead from gold, it cooks in ad dense activities.
So glad to see the orb dunk, I want to try that out now
Devour voidlock, Monte Carlo, Stag, 100+ RES/REC/DIS, and all the ability energy aspects and mods you can find? That's the Ability Uptime build that's been glued to my Warlock since the season started. Retrofit with Target Lock/4th Times, and the Arc Rocket Sidearm with Voltshot make the build stupid fun. You always have an ability to use, devour heals entirely on a kill and extends the timer so it's hard to die if you're cognizant of your surroundings...just stupid, stupid fun. and this season, the only champs i have problems with are Unstops.
I remember a much older version of the heartshadow peregrine, where it used bulwark's damage bonus, and elemental wells (arc from finisher to give bonus damage) to get enough for finisher range, which is a much tighter loop. I should try it again with the buff, looks promising with not needing to worry about melee energy as much
That Ruinous Effigy build is great. I tried it in a Rumble once a long time ago and fell in love.
One of my favorite builds right now is Verity’s Brow & Wavesplitter with a focus of orb generation to continuously feed wavesplitter’s power which feeds back into verity’s.
The fan made wacky builds is great content love to see more of it
So my warlocks primary base form has always been rat king and karnstein. Absolutely fantastic.
But the one that actually surprised me was the final one because that is essentially my warlocks void build but I use it for pve. I used to combine that with warmind cells and essentially any enemy in the game I could blind and still can. The movement is crazy and the orbs generated give me health, blind enemies and the dunk is pretty powerful.
Blinking out of a group of enemies making them all volatile and coming right back to dunk....oh. the explosions. 🥰
Blink got buffed to be by default almost as good as it used to be with Astrocyte, now it feels kinda redundant to use that exotic if you aren't using it to get value out of volatile, so from experience I think Transversive is a better exotic, as you can get to the orbs faster and also find and rush into enemies more effectively.
You still want Astrocyte for the handling depending on your guns.
And Astrocyte still makes your Blink go further, that didn't go away.
😂
I run the Hoarfrost build but without Salvation’s Grip and with Howl of the Storm. You don’t need Stasis crystals coming out the wazoo when your abilities already generate a ton of them, so your add clear is just your abilities and your primary weapon. Your special and heavy weapons should be dedicated to boss damage.
Can we see more of these? I *love* strange theory-crafted build concepts - Sure, they're not "meta" but they really emphasis what Destiny 2 should really be about: build crafting; it's one of THE best parts of the game imo and sadly a lot of creators get so hung up on "the best option available", when plenty of stuff exists that's GOOD, just not broken.
Check out Aegis’s video on heartshadow shotgun swapping, you can fit a shotgun shot in lossesly into its heavy animation spam, plus you can extend tractor weakness with it
I use a statis Titan with Travelers Chosen sidearm and Armamentarium chest piece, Diamond Lance aspect. abilities for days. This is very effective with pretty much every subclass, I just like the glacier wall for defense as well.
for the mask build I run buried for weakening + devour with unending tempest and new crux rocket for dps. bc of bakiris u don't need to rely on surges
I like these kinda off brand vids recently
My word hearing datto say "I used to use stasis a couple of years ago" REALLY puts it into perspective on how long ago stasis came out
Nice to see off meta builds. Hope you do more of these.
Definitely gonna try that verglas one
My off meta build is pvp stormcaller with getaway artist, blinding names for fast cool down, and then free arc souls from rift and from nade, which also grants amplified, letting the slide melee one shot
I would love more off/meta build videos! I really would like to share some of my builds if i have the oportunity, like stasis titan with 84% damage reducion, stasis hunter spamming all abilities, or void hunter whit really high super regen
Pyrogale not with dragons breath, but tommys matchbook. Get that resto, and use throwing hammer to get your stacks of roaring flames for the dmg. Pretty well balanced in terms of survivability to damage, with ease of use. Tommys shreds with the x2 from its burn mode, radiant and surge mods it never runs out of damage boosting sources.
Oh, I use that Astrosyte build a lot, it works really well with Strand, too
I want to try out the peregrine greaves one for sure. Looks pretty fun
Right now Buried Bloodline is awsome to play with Gyrfalcon and using unravel on the srtifact, the weaken increases unreval damage too and it feels like a weaker version of the Volitle glitch.
So, I really liked the hunter stasis bow build. It`s so much fun in master raids. I believe in master dungeons it will be so nice too
one of my favorites is caliban's hand with forerunner and gunpowder gamble for quadruple nade action. Just need to remember to load your gunpowder gamble bomb last or forerunner will eat it
For me: swap salvation’s grip with finality and use an incandescent elemental. Heavy doesn’t matter but incandescent fixed odds is neat. Goal: same thing. Make crustals, shatter them, profit. Now with explosions. It works in tandem with finality’s whole deal.
I don't enjoy pvp much but ever since I first laid eyes on the dunk build a couple years back I find myself gravitating back to it more than any other (and then getting 1 kill with it across 5 games and quitting again)
I've been running Final Warning and Swarmers on Strand Warlock this season and I'm Finally able to love out my Broodmother Dreams
As someone who used the dawn chorus on broodweaver build a lot last season, it's better to use a legendary with incandescent than it is to use an exotic.
Icefall Mantle and Zephyr (w/ Cold Steel). Mainly for Crota since apparently you can get the Stasis overshield to refresh whenever you freeze and shatter. But also for PvP with Syncopation. I should try it out with Ager's tho. Also, the new Crux RL can get Permeability so it can switch over to Stasis upon Icefall cast. so most weapons with Permeability benefit from Icefall. /ramble
It's probably meta, but it's also just fun. I posted a build on your 10 builds for the season video for Solar Warlocks. I used it all last season, and I'll likely be using it all this season. Mantle of Battle Harmony + 100% radiant uptime + potentially 100% restoration uptime.
Voidlock, veritys brow, vortex nades, travelers chosen, feed the void and chaos accelerant. Throw nade to proc osmosis and devour and volatile rounds, kill 5 enemies and boom you have a baby nova bomb, rinse and repeat. Graviton lance also works but TC gives you a little fall back if for some reason your loop for getting nades back with veritys and devour dont work.
The heart shadow build actually seems hype
Assassin's Cowl on Threadrunner PVE. That's it, that's the build. You get all the Strand hunter goodies like Woven Mail and Grapple and Whirling Maelstrom while also getting like 70% of the safety benefits a Nightstalker would have via grapple melee or regular powered melee kills or finishers. The artifact was mega conducive to it last season because Whirling Maelstrom printed ammo combined with Elemental Armaments (even after that interaction was nerfed), but it may still scratch an itch this season. Great for encounters where getting from point A to B is a big part of the challenge like Abyss or Exhibition. Just don't catch the rope dart unless you're okay breaking invis.
Used to also be great for GMs due to the aforementioned artifact perk last season, but I'm not sure it's as worth it now that it's gone. Whirling Maelstrom is kinda like Witherhoard in that you just set it down in a pack of enemies and it'll kill them all even if you have to take cover, and between grapple and invis you're reasonably decent at rescuing dead teammates.
Might also be a fun PVP setup, but there are a million ways to do Threadrunner PVP right now and some are pretty dominant, so idk about that one.