Judging new Final Shape exotic weapons based on 20 seconds of footage.

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ความคิดเห็น • 626

  • @ordohereticus5530
    @ordohereticus5530 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +712

    Remember that Swarmers was initially marketed as only spawning threadlings from tangles.

    • @whiterose2321
      @whiterose2321 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +163

      Final warning was also marketed as “charged tracking rounds” im holding hope for the trace

    • @wood5596
      @wood5596 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +124

      Osmiomancy was marketed as an extra grenade charge too lol

    • @Kirito_DualWielder
      @Kirito_DualWielder 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +90

      Cenotaph was mentioned as improve trave rifles

    • @adamstaples9158
      @adamstaples9158 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Feel like swarmers is getting overhyped right now just because it has insane synergy with horde shuttle. Without it I don’t think it’s that strong, it’s just one of the few things that works with strand warlock.
      Point taken though, they always leave out the rest of the exotic perk description. The book is far from written on these exotics.

    • @heyblaise
      @heyblaise 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      And Abeyant Leap's trailer mentioned nothing about granting Woven Mail.

  • @sparky00777
    @sparky00777 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +901

    The glowup Zen Meteor deserved

    • @life-destiny1196
      @life-destiny1196 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      Long Hawkmoon

    • @andrewford7243
      @andrewford7243 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      In terms of function? Yes. Appearance? God no

    • @Andrew-ry9be
      @Andrew-ry9be 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@life-destiny1196 Falcon's Sun

    • @cayde-7745
      @cayde-7745 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Reminds me of shards in a way​@@andrewford7243

    • @benjaminprince8654
      @benjaminprince8654 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@life-destiny1196longmoon even

  • @drinkwater3453
    @drinkwater3453 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Oscar worthy performance

  • @victorbertini5614
    @victorbertini5614 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    Just remember... lament's exotic trait was advertised as "pierces barrier champions"
    And when jt released, not only it had more to it that just anti barrier, but it did a shit load of damages

    • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
      @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yeah, there are two things to an exotic weapon. First is its intrinsic trait, then second is the special perk.

    • @superbob24
      @superbob24 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      and the most overlooked part, it heals a shit ton which helps a lot on contest mode encounters with no boss DPS needed.

  • @th3stainedrose
    @th3stainedrose 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +292

    Ngl I really like the idea of Kvostov being on QS's level. Even if this is the like, 3rd time we got it back. BUT its also the final of this saga and it makes me feel nice.

    • @FurorAeternumXBL
      @FurorAeternumXBL 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I just like seeing the ricochet bullets thing finally being used in destiny. Tons of other games have it in some capacity, and it’s always sick.

    • @Cryptic211
      @Cryptic211 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@FurorAeternumXBLhardlight crying if khvostov’s ricochet is really good

    • @FurorAeternumXBL
      @FurorAeternumXBL 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@Cryptic211 it looks like functionally they’re way different. Like Hardlight bounces off surfaces, and Khvostov bounces between enemies. Kinda like a Jakobs from BL3

    • @Spooqi
      @Spooqi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I hope Khvostov will still have those customizable perks like the original, as well as a "classic" ornament

    • @LowLifeDust
      @LowLifeDust 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      People can be mad it's back for a 3rd time but tbh I like that it was our first gun and one of the last we use in the saga

  • @SALEENS7GTR5
    @SALEENS7GTR5 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Bro was dropping a LOT of hints when he was talking about the Golden Sniper. How naive we were.

  • @Andrew19972
    @Andrew19972 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Bro was lying straight to our faces this whole vid with this "reaction" XD.

  • @adummy9664
    @adummy9664 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +199

    I'm wondering if what will make the Heavy Trace Rifle special is that it will essentially be "Prismatic" element and work with every single elemental synergy, like counting as a Void weapon for Volatile Rounds but also counting as a Strand weapon for Unraveling Rounds, and so on. (Especially with Prismatic being able to mix in so many different effects at once.)

    • @IcorthwasTaken
      @IcorthwasTaken 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Huh. That would make sense, but then why wouldn't have Built-in Osmosis then?
      In my opinion, it looks like it cycles through random status effects on kill.

    • @Levigumba
      @Levigumba 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Or breaking a shield changes the element of the trace to that element, and applies the appropriate debuff for that subclass, like jolt, unravel, scorch, volatile, and slow

    • @awesomeguy9513
      @awesomeguy9513 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This is also that traveller beam gun mentioned wayback but it being prismatic in the sense that it’s all the elements in 1 would work. It could either be the element of your super or maybe it’s a random pattern of the elements but breaking a shield will give you the buff corresponding to the shield broken like smash an arc shield and other stuff has volt shot.
      Hard light and boralis have the hood reload to swap element but don’t think this trace will have that cause trying to swap between/to 5 different elements seems a bit clunky

    • @Jacksonmontyart
      @Jacksonmontyart 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I’m assuming it just matches the damage type of the enemy’s shield. We see strand and solar in the same area, and it starts with void.

    • @KamitsukiLuciela
      @KamitsukiLuciela 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The Taken Centurion has an Arc shield like they always do when they have one, though, so it would have disintegrated in an Arc effect and not Void if the gimmick was matching the shield you pop.

  • @luhcsgrimm8857
    @luhcsgrimm8857 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +285

    Oh. We turned Shin Malfur into a Gun :)

    • @atsukana1704
      @atsukana1704 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Always have done

    • @twistedgale
      @twistedgale 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@atsukana1704you said it wrong

    • @DragonKnight90001
      @DragonKnight90001 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ……..you know we still haven’t met the damn guy only through the lore

    • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
      @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Naw we turned Cayde into a gun the moment we saw him again 💀

    • @ningyo5855
      @ningyo5855 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DragonKnight90001 The Drifter did

  • @abhisheknag4773
    @abhisheknag4773 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Bro was truly in Entertainment industry.

  • @shadowboy0126
    @shadowboy0126 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    Still Hunt's existence to me is really interesting cause it speaks to a sort of Arms Race the Hunter who presumably made it, is trying to fight.
    The Red Legion took our light, the Lucent Hive have the light and can use Void Suppression. The purpose of this weapon is to make sure, even without the Light, that the Guardian can wield Golden Gun. Its a gun presumably crafted by a Hunter for not only other Hunters but the other classes as well. A gift for the Lightless.

    • @DEADSKULLZ31
      @DEADSKULLZ31 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I really like this interpretation, and we have Lumina that shoots condensed healing balls that also buff damage akin to well, and the titan glaive that makes a mini bubble.

    • @Dorian_Kellum
      @Dorian_Kellum 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Did you write the lore page?

    • @shadowboy0126
      @shadowboy0126 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@Dorian_Kellum no but they should definitely hire me to do so

    • @tyleredenburn8919
      @tyleredenburn8919 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@shadowboy0126 bde

  • @thebrickler
    @thebrickler 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Played us like a goddamn fiddle.

  • @cleanboi9136
    @cleanboi9136 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    DEALS MASSIVE BONUS DAMAGE TO SHIELDS

    • @bl00dkillz
      @bl00dkillz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Better be anti barrier by default

    • @Mrz_gotban
      @Mrz_gotban 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      ​@bl00dkillz it better be anti everything bro😭

    • @idkwhattonamethisyoutubeac4737
      @idkwhattonamethisyoutubeac4737 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Mrz_gotban I think people are sleeping on trace rifles too much. They'll get like a 20% buff to damage, and some trace rifles like wavesplitter are already pretty good.

    • @masterchief2303
      @masterchief2303 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Meh

    • @Shoegaze-
      @Shoegaze- 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Considering how trash most exotic heavies are it doesn’t seem that bad. Take this over truth or tlord any day

  • @mrpotatoes4083
    @mrpotatoes4083 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Who’s back after Datto’s recent video

  • @dannycarey5244
    @dannycarey5244 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Looking back at this video, I am betrayed.

  • @RoseHasThornes
    @RoseHasThornes 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    Hey Datto, if you look at the reticle on the sniper just before killing the Hive Knight it shows 2 bullets underneath. Assuming the angle switch was of the first bullet again, and based on the spacing in the hud, presumably that means 3 bullets.

  • @mutantraze3681
    @mutantraze3681 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +175

    Microcosm HAS to have some other exotic perk otherwise arbalest is simply better in every way. Arby one shots any shield (especially the 1 mil shield in GOTD) so the damage bonus is minor

    • @heyblaise
      @heyblaise 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I can't believe how many people are overlooking the fact that a Trace Rifle instantly melted an Elite/Boss Hydra.

    • @ShadowNova300
      @ShadowNova300 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

      @@heyblaise I can't believe you're overlooking the fact that its a teaser and only 20 SECONDS so of course they're gonna make it look god tier.

    • @heyblaise
      @heyblaise 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ShadowNova300 Ah yes, foolish me. “Let’s increase the damage in our test build to make it look better than it is in the live game!”
      Some of you all need to get your brains checked out.

    • @cgpxae2119
      @cgpxae2119 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      You just discovered the arbalest nerf

    • @Jacksonmontyart
      @Jacksonmontyart 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@heyblaisehow about that it killed enemies with solar void and strand ? That last clip has strand and solar. I’m guessing it matches all damage types

  • @axelfure
    @axelfure 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Every seventh bullet ricochets… As we use abilities to add clear an entire arena.
    That said the sniper is sick!

    • @awesomefuzz4008
      @awesomefuzz4008 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's gonna be pretty neat for PvP though. Should be a fun option to punish the current teamshot spam.

    • @minguigui9741
      @minguigui9741 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@awesomefuzz4008 If you’re getting 7 shots off you’re not getting the full pvp team shooting experience

  • @hamsterpixel
    @hamsterpixel 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    One thing I’m noticing about the trace rife is that the beam itself is white, kinda similar to the beam the traveler shot in lightfall. My guess is that the ‘massive bonus damage to shields’ is going to be adaptive munitions on crack, fully adapting to any shield and then some, and possibly also generally being considered all damage types at once for the purpose of activating exotics, fragments and the like.
    Also can we talk about this getting announced right after Bungie decided to re-define deterministic chaos as a high-damage full auto heavy with anti-barrier capabilities.

    • @karrotlord
      @karrotlord 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I noticed that too. Trace Rifles' beams match their element but Microcosm's isn't any of them. Thought it might be arc at first but it isn't.

    • @skeletor8951
      @skeletor8951 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Microcosm was indeed explicitly described as a "Traveler Beam Trace Rifle" back in the TFS reveal.

  • @juiceboxhero3250
    @juiceboxhero3250 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    The reason I believe it could synergize with celestial is because the description of the gun specifies Golden Gun shots, not something like “fire more powerful explosive bullets. It just straight up says “fires Golden Gun shots”

    • @rasenshuriken7771
      @rasenshuriken7771 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Me to Atrax-1 after using my super:
      “But wait, there’s more!”
      **pulls out the portable Shin Malfur**

    • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
      @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The reason I believe it doesn't synergies with Celestial is because of Celestial's description. "Precision final blows reduce the cooldown of your Super. Modifies Golden Gun to fire a single, high-damage shot. Targets defeated by that shot give you Super energy and explode." It modifies the Golden Gun super to fire a single, high-damage shot. I hope you are right in its synergy, but I highly doubt they will allow that.

    • @hamsterpixel
      @hamsterpixel 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 if it turned the golden gun shots into a mini izzi that would be pretty cool

    • @byrmaxson
      @byrmaxson 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm betting it will. It's not about it being classified like a Super as Datto said, way I see it it will work like the various synergistic Exotic Weapon/Armor combos, like Weapons of Sorrow with Necrotic Grips or Lumina with Boots of the Assembler and so on. They'll force the synergy directly, so it will work with Nighthawk since it "modifies Golden Gun" but not with SES since it's not an actual Super.

    • @DEADSKULLZ31
      @DEADSKULLZ31 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@rithvikmuthyalapati9754the description of mothkeepers says nothing about synergy with Ex Diris, and Necrotic Grips says nothing about synergy with Thorn Osteo Striga, and Necrochasm.

  • @mifoon8727
    @mifoon8727 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +131

    Every 20 second trailer we’ve seen for the final shape exotics are being judged a little too harshly. People need to remember that the five word summary is not the exotic description, it’s the fantasy the exotic fulfills.
    Exhibit A: Final Warning. The trailer just said it had tracking rounds. What it fully has is tracking rounds, a lot of extra damage on headshots when fully charged and aiming down sites, and it unravels the target.
    Exhibit B is trinity ghoul. Namely for its catalyst, everyone who played during forsaken remembers how the bow was a bit lackluster and how the catalyst completely turned it around and made it one of the best weapons in the game.
    Same goes for the armor. We don’t know how much damage the rockets on the Titan armor do. We don’t know if the suspend on the warlock chest piece happens on kill, delay, or charge it with multiple needles for a bigger suspend. And we don’t know if the hunter armors grenades do anything arc related, like jolt or blind.
    They may all be complete garbage But like I said, all we know is the idea/fantasy they’re supposed to fulfill. Not the whole description

    • @DustiestBoar734
      @DustiestBoar734 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      cenotaph and swarmers also great examples for underwhelming in the trailers and w in game

    • @breakout8904
      @breakout8904 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DustiestBoar734 Osios aswell

    • @Dream146
      @Dream146 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ah yes my fantasy of breaking shields slightly faster, soon it will be a reality.

    • @mifoon8727
      @mifoon8727 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Dream146 yeah like arbalest, and that thing defined the damage meta for a bit. It also one shots energy shields and barriers and pierces through other shields

  • @ValiantNomad
    @ValiantNomad 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    I think it would be cool if the trace rifle is kinetic but causes explosions in the type of whatever shield it destroys. Like killing a void shield and creating a void damage explosion when the shield breaks, etc.

    • @JamesRival
      @JamesRival 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      That’s normally how shields work

    • @huggleston6936
      @huggleston6936 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      @@JamesRival but that only happens when you break the shield with a weapon matching the element, they want it to happen regardless of the trace rifle's element.

    • @ValiantNomad
      @ValiantNomad 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@JamesRival I mean a damaging AoE explosion, like Volatile.

    • @ValiantNomad
      @ValiantNomad 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@huggleston6936 And yeah that too. Either Kinetic or a new "prismatic" element type that changes to match shield types. Think there's a weapon perk that does that too.

    • @JamesRival
      @JamesRival 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@huggleston6936
      Maybe

  • @PG-20
    @PG-20 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    Died 2017
    Born 2024
    Welcome back Zen Meteor

  • @Ligmanuttz
    @Ligmanuttz 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +166

    The opinion is here

    • @Paxus147
      @Paxus147 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Our*

    • @twistedgale
      @twistedgale 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Paxus147no

  • @MrTmm97
    @MrTmm97 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Id be suprised if the sniper didn’t work with Celestial. We have a couple warlock exotics that have synergy with weapons. Thorn/Osteo/necrocasm + necrotic grip is a big one but also lumina and boots of the assembler. Titan Saint 14’s Helm work with the class specific Glaive bubble last I checked. It’s about time hunter got one of their own.
    Edit: someone else pointed out hunter interaction between the Ex-Diris Hive-like special grenade launcher and moth keepers wraps arm exotic armor

    • @commandacrunch
      @commandacrunch 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Hunters have mothkeeper wraps with Ex Diris

    • @shallot4991
      @shallot4991 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Saint helm does not synergize with the glaive, id honestly rather not have another malfiesance situation where you’d only want to use it on a hunter because of their exotic

    • @MrTmm97
      @MrTmm97 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@shallot4991 it does now. It didn’t when the Glaive was released but now you can even run stand and get an overshield from Saint 14 helm with the Glaive. Try it yourself and you’ll see. They made the change when they buffed the exotic glaives awhile back because no one used them

    • @papertowels9162
      @papertowels9162 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@MrTmm97 Can confirm. Played Gambit, there was a Saint titan with the glaive. Blind as a bat in there.

  • @DerultimativeOzzy
    @DerultimativeOzzy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Trace Rifle could maybe fire all 5 elements at the same time and be interesting as a strong allrounder kinda gun. Always useful on every Surge and other elemental gimmicks on a heavy weapon level basis. The color of the beam looks kinda white after all and could make sense in the narrative for Final Shape as a symbolic piece of new beginnings and completion. Also would make sense why it deals " massive damage" to shields, despite the game having Arbalest, which is designed to deal " massive damage" to shields as well!

  • @darthbob1337
    @darthbob1337 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    First FPS_Doug reference in the channel 10/10

  • @itszigzag
    @itszigzag 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    The quintessential factinian is here!

  • @Con5tantine
    @Con5tantine 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The Pyramids have a shield that nothing could pen, except the Traveler could. The Exotic Heavy Trave Rifle being Kinetic AND anti-barrier AND having all the anti-barrier verbs from each subclass would actually make a lot of sense.
    Also, calling its Catalyst having disruption break 😂

  • @Daniel-mo7bj
    @Daniel-mo7bj 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Answer to the question what as Kvostov synergies with: Strand, the perk that generates grenade energy when dealing damage goes hard with anything that has multiple damage instances like my Kinetic Tremors + Explosive Rounds Midnight Coup; which can be 3 damage triggers on one target when KT is also active

  • @CGR1410
    @CGR1410 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    For kvostov Imagine beeming a buff target in the middle of a bunch of small ones and all ur ricochet bullets kill all the small ones around without shooting them once. And also this should be craftable and completely customizable

    • @10rio
      @10rio 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      or just throw 1 grenade..

  • @GhostoftheTenthEye
    @GhostoftheTenthEye 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    they said red death is coming back. i just want. my fucking zhalo supercell man. if that happens. i die happy

    • @thaddeushamlet
      @thaddeushamlet 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      For reeeeeaaaal.
      Yeah I know there's riskrunner but I want that auto rifle range and stability plus super gain
      😫

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I want my fucking First Curse.

    • @devinwillis768
      @devinwillis768 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Zevox144That should be last words catalyst when aimed down sight w/ a range increase imo

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@devinwillis768 No, fuck denying me my proper weapon.

  • @SpitOutTheFork
    @SpitOutTheFork 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have 3 major questions regarding the “Still Hunt” sniper.
    1. As most people are asking. Will Celestial synergize with the Goldy Shot?
    2. Given that this is a weapon. Will the Goldy shot gain an increase to its damage from Surge Mods?
    3. If both of my previous questions turn out to be true. Will they stack?

  • @tucker2138
    @tucker2138 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    He sits upon a throne of lies

  • @boingbong7348
    @boingbong7348 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I wanna see the sniper synergise with Celestial to convert the charged shots into 1 shot when doing the special reload a la Izi.
    Granted it being something anyone equips is based on if the shots are built up through kills alone or damage.

    • @EggyWeggyIII
      @EggyWeggyIII 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think that’s the most likely. These shots are most likely just scaled up piercing shots with a special effect on them. They for sure aren’t going to do golden gun level damage. Maybe they do but they won’t do precision. But just combining any charge shots you have into one with the same damage as all 3 could be good enough and it seems balanced enough.

    • @Joemama-xw2wy
      @Joemama-xw2wy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EggyWeggyIII It’ll probably do around Izi damage, if anything. Maybe a bit more.

  • @ZGamingGuy
    @ZGamingGuy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm guessing the trace rifle will gain a buff relevant to the shield it breaks for a period of time

  • @thatcup6475
    @thatcup6475 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think khvostovs perk will function in a way where the bullets ricochet through enemies until everything is its area is dead meaning you could end up getting a ton of bullets bouncing between as chip damage while you shoot making more and more till the room is cleared. That would be really cool at least imo

  • @eyelessjack4213
    @eyelessjack4213 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for putting an ancient meme in there, I know feel very old. You're the best Datto.

  • @tactlesscloud2784
    @tactlesscloud2784 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    "Honey, wake up. Three new Datto opinions just dropped!"

  • @Vextral4653
    @Vextral4653 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Knowing bungie the trace with be needed for the raid. Happens pretty often where people go “ this weapon is gonna suck “ then its secretly good

    • @noble3887
      @noble3887 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This just reminds me of what happened with dragons breath when season of the wish launched. Everybody was shitting on it for like a solid week, then we figured out we were just using it wrong.

  • @knightofavalon86
    @knightofavalon86 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Zen Meteor. Yes, thats what they used to call me. That was my name.
    I am Still Hunt. And i come back to you now at the turn of the tide."

  • @TheNukedNacho
    @TheNukedNacho 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If I remember the lore right, Shaw Han used Golden Gun to create a Well of Radiance(sorta) to give some Redjack frames Golden Gun auto rifles.
    Or it could just be Radiant.

    • @jobeariotheog883
      @jobeariotheog883 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the way the super works in lore is that you can imbue a gun with the power which is what he did

  • @RageR203
    @RageR203 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bungie: "Let's share Goldie ult with everyone as a SR"
    What a world...

  • @gimmibox
    @gimmibox 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Charging up weapons to get a super is a fun new thing. Like in the future a sword that can throw daybreak projectiles

  • @herbal_teafling738
    @herbal_teafling738 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another case for Microcosom being Kinetic is that it’s perk has to do with shields, and really the only other exotic weapons that have perks tied to taking out shield are Arbalest and Bastion, both kinetic weapons. Elemental weapons already give bonus damage to their corresponding shield type anyway and cause an explosion. Either that or it’s like a Tessalation situation where it changes based on your subclass/super element or maybe even constantly fluctuates between damage types while firing

  • @memlordnord567
    @memlordnord567 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As far as the nighthawk question goes, the helm of saint exotic thats meant for ward of dawn also applies to the exotic titan glaive so its very much possible that nighthawk might work with still hunt

  • @doomskull7549
    @doomskull7549 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 0:24 you can clearly see some some kind of giant explosion on killing that hydra, maybe something like breaking a shield charges the weapon to cause an enormous explosion on next kill
    Additionally, at 5:12, you can actually see the bullets ricochet (before the camera does a flip). The bullet ricochets after a very short delay and ricochets in 2 directions at once. This is very clearly a different effect to the giant, white ricocheting round shown at 5:14. The former is probably the 7th shot, and the latter may be some kind of kill clip or special activated part of the perk, for a much higher damage shot

  • @Jvggr
    @Jvggr 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They absolutely have the power to do exotic synergies, look at ex diris mothkeepers
    But it’s entirely up to the sandbox team deciding if that would be too good or not

  • @joshtenney4143
    @joshtenney4143 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Kvostov I assume the richochet hits up to 7 times, and I hope the richochet increases in damage up to 7x normal damage.

    • @elizabethhicks4181
      @elizabethhicks4181 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I so, so hope the mag is 49 as well. 7 ricochet bullets in a mag that each ricochet 7 times?

  • @androski5247
    @androski5247 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It feels like they went with describing the extra perk on Microcosm when the intrinsic must have so much background stuff going on.

  • @brandonperry2253
    @brandonperry2253 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Maybe it’s an ultimate version of The Fundamentals on the trace rifle

  • @theta-rx2
    @theta-rx2 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am excited to see what the trace does, my guess is that it either does all elements at once or that it switches to match when you damage a shield.
    Khvostov I am hoping is craftable
    also I really hope nighthawk works with the sniper, less for the one shot (izanagi does that) but more for the explosions or something

  • @verdinant_jay
    @verdinant_jay 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the heavy trace rifle amplifies the explosion that happens when you break a shield could be interesting. Essentially if anything uses a shield they will be cooked because of the explosion being a guaranteed kill on anything below a champ.

  • @NoBloons
    @NoBloons 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "There isnt prismatic weapons"
    You fools. Tesselation has been telling us all along.

  • @emerald6597
    @emerald6597 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    macrocosm meta for simmumah ur-nokru (real)

    • @bl00dkillz
      @bl00dkillz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      With cenotaph mask again

    • @emerald6597
      @emerald6597 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bl00dkillz honestly running this with retraced and appetence and cenotaph might be funny

  • @DTNNooby
    @DTNNooby 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    what if the "deals massive damage to shields" means it does like MASSIVE damage to shields, blasting right through the shield and the health. like a 1 second proc of like 300%

    • @notcheese8177
      @notcheese8177 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Arbalest exists

    • @Yumiaia-26
      @Yumiaia-26 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@notcheese8177the idea there saying has potential to be stronger yknow, i don think thas how there going wi it bu still

    • @bl6628
      @bl6628 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@notcheese8177 Arbalest doesn't not do what they described

  • @ericx6969
    @ericx6969 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    we still don't have an arc or void exotic hand canon I think lol

    • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
      @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Damn, that's true

    • @papertowels9162
      @papertowels9162 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nor a strand or stasis one. Solar is the only element hand cannons have. All the rest are Kinetic.

  • @ThatSpecificIndividual
    @ThatSpecificIndividual 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My guess is that it massively increases shield damage. Like transfer the damage against the shield and damages the target again.

  • @tylerking6518
    @tylerking6518 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The one thing I'm concerned abt with the golden gun sniper is that the lucent hive knight at the end had a glow that looks like he was finisher range so that leads me to believe the damage might not be that good if they needed the knight to be that low in order to kill it. Obviously a regular golden gun doesn't one shot there either but still

  • @stoutyy
    @stoutyy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Put this on the acting resume

  • @angelousmortis8041
    @angelousmortis8041 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For Celestial Nighthawk working: There's precedence with Helm of Saint-14 providing Starless Night to Edge of Action's Mini-Bubble. Given that the latter works, I'd be surprised if Nighthawk doesn't.

  • @MegaAdams00
    @MegaAdams00 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think all of these look super fun. And he's right, things don't need to perfectly synergize. I think the trace rifle I'm the least excited for but I still am excited to see what it can fully do. I didn't get into D1 so I don't know what kivostov used to be but I love my auto rifles and it looks fun. The sniper looks dope to. Somebody turned their hunter friend into a gun lol.

  • @Tsukidal
    @Tsukidal 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd love to see Ember of Combustion activate on the new sniper, that'd be super fun

  • @psycho_hunterz7316
    @psycho_hunterz7316 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No speculation at all that the different element explosions from the trace rifle might just be because the enemies it hit had void shields, arc shield, strand shields and solar? Instead of thinking it matches your subclass energy.
    The 2 first enemies gives of a small purple cloud, the Ogre gives of a blue cloud before they zoom in on him dieing from void (assuming the beam itself deals void), the 2 next gives of a green cloud probably having strand shields and the Hydra prbably had a solar shield maybe maybe?
    "Deals massive damage to shields"... So they probably just took photage when shooting at enemies with different shields. (Speculating)

  • @Yimster06
    @Yimster06 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’d be cool if the trace rifle applies elemental debuffs to nearby enemies based on your super when you pop the shield of an enemy

  • @wwr90
    @wwr90 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An alternative to Riptide is Aurvandil w/ reconstruction chill clip. Should freeze in 2 shots in TFS. Downside is you have to focus gunsmith engrams to get it

  • @Sylv925
    @Sylv925 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if the still hunt is special ammo it's going to be an amazing neutral game exotic and might even rival izinagi depending on the damage, if it's a heavy weapon it might be alright for boss dps since you'd be able to fire off a celestial shot then follow it up with three more shots from the sniper.

    • @KamitsukiLuciela
      @KamitsukiLuciela 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They usually specify if a weapon type that's normally Special is Heavy & Primary is Special, no? Just look at Microcosm, they specified very clearly that it will be a *Heavy* Trace.

  • @thomasstone3368
    @thomasstone3368 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The trace rifle might function like Tesselation where it adapts its damage type to match your subclass

  • @SirShadeyy
    @SirShadeyy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bungie has a bad habit of showing the worst parts of each exotic in these trailers. Hopefully there’s more functionality in these
    Also, Microcasm seems like the post-raid exotic quest. Probably won’t see it for a bit imo

  • @Jacksonmontyart
    @Jacksonmontyart 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That first weapon has void strand and solar shields broken. I’m guessing it breaks all damage types.

  • @amberheardslawyerprofessor5266
    @amberheardslawyerprofessor5266 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Remember no expansion is coming and it’s onto Marathon after June. It’s Joever.

  • @jjq1986
    @jjq1986 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Microcosm: deals massive damage to shields.
    Arbalest: Am I a joke to you.

  • @thesoup4174
    @thesoup4174 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I’m assuming it’s gonna have the same perk as Hard Light and Borealis . Why else would they update it?

    • @brandonperry2253
      @brandonperry2253 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Right that’s what I’m thinking. Like the ultimate version of The Fundamentals where it can swap between all 5 elements and then maybe u get enough kills and the second perk gives an alternate reload for a prismatic damage type where it literally does ALL 5 elements of damage at once

    • @theredsalmon612
      @theredsalmon612 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@brandonperry2253okay, now we’re cookin

  • @JayJoStanAccount
    @JayJoStanAccount 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The trace could be something like, Whatever type of shield it destroys is the pickup it drops I.E. Strand into tangles, Void in to Breach's, Arc into Traces and so on

  • @CurtisM36
    @CurtisM36 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe the heavy trace feeds into elemental things when you break the shield?! Jolt, ignition, tangle etc?!

  • @greenprotag
    @greenprotag 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With warlocks having exotic armor & weapon synergy for several combinations, it would be nice for hunter to get something like that involving possibly this new sniper.

  • @camrendilbeck
    @camrendilbeck 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am positive that the sniper will synergize. With celestial. They previously said that they want to lean into exotic synergy with exotic armor so it would make perfect sense for it.

  • @snottytoe6957
    @snottytoe6957 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A thing to point out about Khvostov is the fact that before it shows the description, the gun is firing pretty slowly, but when it shows him firing at the goblins the guns RPM is increased by quite a bit.

    • @KillionaireENG
      @KillionaireENG 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's just video editing.

    • @snottytoe6957
      @snottytoe6957 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KillionaireENG It doesn't look like it is. The projectiles going past the guardian are still traveling full speed.

    • @KillionaireENG
      @KillionaireENG 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@snottytoe6957 Bungie have had a history with editing. Remember Tommy's Matchbook? People did in depth analysis and said that the fire rate was 900+rpm. On release? 720. Don't believe everything they put out.

    • @KillionaireENG
      @KillionaireENG 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And even more obvious, they LOVE to sync gunshots with the trailer music. They've always done that.

    • @snottytoe6957
      @snottytoe6957 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@KillionaireENG I mean sure, but consider the fact that Khvostov did previously have the option between either 360RPM or 900RPM in D1, and there is still a whole other half of the weapon that is unknown. Could be a similar perk selection as SUROS regime.

  • @nobbutime
    @nobbutime 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    as far as night hawk, I'm a liiiittle skeptical it'll work, but using the phrase "golden gun shots" and not some other way to describe them gives me hope.

  • @DemonLordSparda
    @DemonLordSparda 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope it does work with Celestial Nighthawk considering Warlocks and Titans could put that effect on the new class item you can craft.

  • @TyWorth
    @TyWorth 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Could be interesting if the trace rifle changes damage types based on the last shield you damaged. Let's it get shield bursts on every single target, not too bad (but not sure it would be worth the heavy slot).

    • @annihilator4413
      @annihilator4413 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably won't be worth the heavy slot UNLESS it changes it's damage type to your equipped subclass, but deals bonus damage to any shield as if it were matching the shield type.
      Though, with how bad heavy ammo drop rates are for Exotic heavy weapons, it may be bad regardless of how good it is.

    • @TyWorth
      @TyWorth 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@annihilator4413 okay this I like cause it gets rid of the issues with fitting it in a build.

  • @freakindon5710
    @freakindon5710 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every exotic has at least 2 perks. An intrinsic origin and a third slot perk. And then sometimes an exotic catalyst. My assumption is that microcosm will grow in damage when it breaks a shield or gains an effect when it eats a shield.

  • @Caydeson-1
    @Caydeson-1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They did say that transcendence will let you break some special shields during the campaign, maybe the Trace can affect them too

  • @oxsila
    @oxsila 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Remember when we thought Dragon's Breath would be mid and it ended up being S tier

    • @Shoegaze-
      @Shoegaze- 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Idk about S tier

    • @oxsila
      @oxsila 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Shoegaze- Dragon's Breath fills the whole that Anarchy left. I'd say it's S tier in terms of heavy exotic weapons. Why do you think otherwise?

    • @Shoegaze-
      @Shoegaze- 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oxsila it’s only good for solo content but even then there are better options and solo challenges are so easy and rarely done the gun just seems not useful. It doesn’t even remotely fill the role of old anarchy which was amazing at everything as it’s only good at prolonged solo dps. I would even argue xeno is significantly better than db as it’s amazing at its role and that role is actually used in speedruns.

    • @oxsila
      @oxsila 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Shoegaze- "It doesn’t even remotely fill the role of old anarchy"
      Actually it does. You shoot the gun and then forget about it whilst you shoot your other weapons. Xeno is S tier too but it's not a damage over time weapon. You have to solely focus on using Xeno when you do dps.

    • @Shoegaze-
      @Shoegaze- 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oxsila if you actually played the game when anarchy was the meta in like arrivals you would know it was a multi purpose weapon amazing at everything. It was used for ad clear, major kills, and boss dps and was almost best in slot at all three. You also didn’t need to use some silly build to use it.

  • @cleverravenno7
    @cleverravenno7 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that golden gun scene took place in the broodmother strike from what i can see. maybe tangled shore coming back?

    • @AroeOran
      @AroeOran 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is NOT the broodmother area

  • @user-qk8sg2kp7h
    @user-qk8sg2kp7h 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I find it really funny that we got a shield destroying heavy and a pretty mid sounding auto rifle and then a literal ban gun for a sniper

  • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
    @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some of you might have forgotten but the Khvostov 7G-0X aesthetic was an ornament for the D1 Khvostov-7G-0X

  • @vexmythoclast9476
    @vexmythoclast9476 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The talked about the sniper in the original ViDoc for Final Shape. And I’m guessing Microcosm is when they talked about “turning the Traveler’s Beam into an Exotic.”
    I bet Microcosm will be the Raid Exotic.

    • @ratfeet6080
      @ratfeet6080 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      theyve never once revealed a raid exotic in trailers like these fat chance buddy

    • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
      @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They don't release footage for raid exotics until after the raid has been released

    • @vexmythoclast9476
      @vexmythoclast9476 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ratfeet6080
      One Thousand Voices was shown off in the Forsaken Exotic Weapon trailer, to be fair.

  • @CringeConsultant
    @CringeConsultant 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the Trace, is it:
    Enemy has shield of Void/Solar/Arc.
    Trace breaks shield.
    Shield explodes with Void(Suppress/Volatile etc etc Ignition with Solar or Jolt with Arc.

  • @pkmn7777777
    @pkmn7777777 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can’t tell why different elements spawn from the trace rifle, but I’m assuming it’s because they are different element shields.
    Maybe when it destroys the shield it launches an element verb?
    Would love it if it finally brings Kinetic to heavy weapons!

  • @John-nj6xl
    @John-nj6xl 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thing you gotta realise with these teaser trailers that they're just teases. So we're not seeing the whole picture here. I feel like the trace is gonna be way powerful. Cuz they said in the first vidoc that the trace is the travelers light. So there's defo more to it as well as still hunt and khvostov. Can't wait for the red death reveal tho im curious how they're gonns implement that in game as crimson is basically red death

  • @shadowbrain4814
    @shadowbrain4814 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Since Khvostov was the weapon that started our journey, i feel like some level of Prismatic synergy would be appropriate. Granting more charge to our Transcendence, maybe?

  • @colinm.2202
    @colinm.2202 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Vauda for the boom headshot clip. Been a hot minute since I heard it❤

  • @shadowsa2b
    @shadowsa2b 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope the Still Hunt's super shot(s?) Can be charged by killing things like acolyte eyes as well. It could be fun in Warlord's. Beyond that, it feels kinda situational. Something like Onslaught where you can have some cover to get kills before targeting the boss seems like the idea. Otherwise, pseudo primary-ing a sniper might be a little awkward.
    I also hope it can store its charge for later and then just special reload when you want the Golden shot, eveb if you swap weapons. Otherwise itll be kinda tough to use

  • @4VWill
    @4VWill 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Heavy Exotic Trace could have just been a Chaos Reach cannon to go along with the Golden Sniper

  • @JulesTesla
    @JulesTesla 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really wondering since they specifically said that Still Hunt “fires Golden Gun shots” if Celestial Nighthawk will override the dmg output/ammo capacity on special reload…

  • @sine2917
    @sine2917 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the trace rifle is just the traveler beam.. i doubt this would happen.. it could leave like a flower bed (the roots probably would be difficult to make work unless they're subtle and have no collision ofc) of light on the ground like it did to the pyramid ship as like as like a special shot would be cool. I dont know what it would do except maybe a damage or resistance buff while standing in it.

    • @Yumiaia-26
      @Yumiaia-26 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope bu im scared it wont TwT i want true pocket traveler beam

  • @gavinthejanitor
    @gavinthejanitor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i feel like they might make it work with celestial as a specific synergy, but not other general super related buffs

  • @merkamillie
    @merkamillie 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Golden Gun itself was originally a sniper based on the Game Informer magazines that covered prerelease news and info

  • @trunglerfevr
    @trunglerfevr 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope that the trace rifle like causes really big shield detonation explosions or something like that.