World Superbike VS MotoGP - Ben Spies tells the REAL DIFFERENCE Between Them...
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- Ben Spies is an AMA Motorcycle Hall of Fame’r that had an incredible road racing career both in the US and in Europe. Ben rose to fame racing in the glory years of the AMA Superbike Championship and his battles with Aussie Matt Mladin are legendary. The GFC in 2008 force Ben to look for opportunities to race overseas and in 2009 he made the move to the WSBK Championship and then onto MotoGP. Ben is one of the nicest guys you can hope to ever meet and I loved getting the chance to talk his career and life.
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Let. Your. Guest. Finish. A. Sentence. Without. Interrupting.
The cringe of this interviewer might not be intentional. I'm still trying to figure this out.
I found that when he interviewed Jeremy McGrath.
People want his input just as much as the athlete
@Ethan-jm9pt you still need to let the person interviewed finish answering the question ask. That is common sense stuff
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Colin Edwards (Texas Tornado) also said you could set up a superbike perfectly but with a MotoGP bike there was always something that you could never get quite right.
He always had chatter problems
Totally true...!!! Team, engineers and mechanics are 75% of the bike behavior
F**k ya, Ben Spies! This guy left America, went to World Superbike raced on Tires (Perrelli) bike brand (Yamaha) AND TRACKS he DID NOT KNOW and still won the championship on the first try. Plus, he’s the only guy to beat Matt Mladin when he was dominating AMA, this guy is a true badass…
I havent even heard his name since early 2000s this man was savage when he raced ama im with you bro dude was and still is bad ass
Elbows !!!! One of my favourite riders of that era. Can't wait to watch the whole thing 👍
I just hope Jase manages to mention Jiu Jitsu about 10 times 😜
I thought Hayden beat Mladin when he was dominating?
@@renorailfanning5465 My bad, yes Nicky won in 2002. Matt won in 99,00,01,03,04,05 and 09. Spies won 06,07,08 (crazy racing at a crazy level) and WSBK in 09.
@@renorailfanning5465 nope! not a championsip.
Had the worst breaks in motogp…his swingarm literally broke at Laguna Seca! But damn he dominated SBK….and the fact that you gotta win twice in a weekend is even crazier!
I remember his bike running out of gas. WTF!!! 😠
Even sent him out on a cracked chassis in a race.
I also remember Ben saying this about his time in GP @yamaha. He said whenever they found a setup he liked and was comfortable. They would go and change something. Then he would not like the change.
Then the time they stuck with what he liked. He Won that race at tt assen.
@@s2wheelsthat was at Laguna Seca. Yamaha really fucked him over to get Lorenzo on the team. It’s almost like they put him out there on purpose with a busted bike to get him off the team. By the time he switched to Ducati, his shoulder was done and he could not race to win. So fuck Lin Jarvis and Yamaha
You're a great interviewer, but please let the guest speak without interrupting them. It is uncomfortable to watch. Thanks for not losing your temper Ben.
It's called a conversation, it's gypsy tales style of interview.
he answers his own questions lol
@@daddy5225 You don't even interrupt your guest if you wanna have a good conversation...
Not quite as bad as Joe Rogan, he invites people on & speaks at ( not too) them the whole show!
@@daddy5225 No it's not, it's rude and we want to hear the interviewee. No context where cutting someone off in conversation back and forth is proper.
last American racer to show up on the international scene not confused... and brutally honest about his own skillz & sensitivity on the top level machines
What about those in Moto2 they don’t represent the U.S ?
@@PixelRacer64 which American Moto2 contestant has sniffed the Moto2 championship?
they bad@@PixelRacer64
I live in the U.S and know a lot of friends who are into motorcycle racing. The pathway here in the U.S always leads to dirtbikes. There's almost no youth program for street bike racing. It's just not a thing like it is in Spain and Italy.
@@roberto_ik5640 I don't know if they're "bad" per se, just not as focused on winning world championships as their predecessors...
2 minutes in and the interviewer has interrupted the guest twice... goodbye
Riders of this caliber ? Please let them talk uninterrupted . . Massive knowledge
ben is a legend...if only injuries never come to him,im pretty sure he is still competing in world champioship today
Listening to Ben shows how good Valentino is as he rode Suzuka 8 hrs (Superbike) and won with Colin Edwards.
I think the 9 world titles show that too
@@JamchesterBoozle yes but I am talking about the transition from MotoGP to Superbikes.
He literally said Superbike is easier cuz you can feel it more bro...
@@henry247 superbikes are easier but totally different from a MotoGP. Also keep in mind that you don't get lot of testing for 8 hours Suzuka.
@@cranky1812 MotoGP riders train with Superbikes and Motocross bikes on the off season bro
I remember watching Ben vs Mat and my adrenaline was through the roof, after the race my arm pits sweating 😂😂😂 some of the best yrs, good to see you champ 🏆
Absolutely no one better on the planet to talk abouot the differences between these two styles of motorcycle.
Too bad he didn’t get to do much of the talking.
Think Biaggi could say one or 2 things
Awesome to see Ben giving an interview. Such a demon on the breaks. Got to see Ben a lot in TX when you came to a CRMA.
I was a CMRA member from the mid 80s til the early 90s. I really miss Oak Hill and TWS.
Mr Spies, sir you simply rocked. I followed you during your time in the AMA and in the Super Bikes series and it was a pleasure to watch, sorry about MotoGP, I humbly believe it was perhaps a combination of a completely different bike, race medium, not having a crew who is familiar with your style of riding bike set up and many other little things that in the end make a very big difference, all said and done I have no doubt that when your name is mentioned it will be associated with that of a premier superbike rider👍👍.
I got to see him double his one year in WSBK. Miller Motorsports park in Utah. It was so awesome!!
Good to see and hear from Ben. Always remembered as one of the best!
Rode with you in East Texas some years back, Love some SPIES! Still have my signed photo of him jumping in MX
I absolutely loved watching him ride AKA Man-Handle a Superbike. It was beautiful , it really was. He knows how to Pull the Pin !
2009 WSBK was the greatest sport entertainment I've ever seen. Elbowz is the man.
We need more from Ben Spies!
What a talent and an amazing man!👏✊️
The track he's referring to is B.I.R. Brainerd International Racway in Minnesota USA. The Front Straight Is an NHRA 1/4 drag strip turn one is at the end after where the 300mph cars leave the strip. It's one of the fastest corners on a road course in the world. It's very scary. For a track with very little elevation change its an awesome track.
So glad he said about the stiffness. Now I understand why I never did well on my Honda RS 250. Or at least I have another reason now.
Should have become one of the greatest/most successful motorcycle racers - such a shame about those debilitating injuries.
Spies is the man. Please get JAKE GAGNE on gypsy tales!
So cringe having you interrupt guests. Learn from jre. Didn’t your parents teach that basic manner.
Gypsy Tales could you please offer the name or site you mentioned that gave a detailed description of the workings of a MotoGP bike. Thanks.
BIR was awesome track for my RC-51. Fun times!
He should have stayed in world sbk, who knows how many titles he would have won. And btw my dear host of the show, let the man speak!
Mat Mladin now that would be an interview!
The interviewer thinks the audience cares what he thinks about motorcycles when he's interviewing Ben Spies about SBK and MotoGP? Are you kidding me, dude?
2009 World Superbike was VERY EXCITING with Ben Spies! I tried to watch after Ben left but it was never the same.
3:09 No, it will traverse/climb the bump requiring more suspension travel. Therefore the better suspension is way softer leaned over and firms up on the way out.
My first helmet was Ben's replica I loved that shell
Does anyone know the european chanel that hes talking about? Sound interesting
Does anybody know the European youtube channel that he was referring to, hosted by the guy who really explains how the bikes work? Cheers
I read a Jonny Rea interview regarding his time in Motogp and how he couldn't go any quicker. His team manager told him what he needed to do to push the bike to the next level, he said that to go faster he needed to generate more grip, and that those at the front would brake so hard up to the apex that they took the tyre up to another level of traction, and, of course, if you didn't push it hard enough, when you released the brake, you would go down.
I love Ben, he used to have a great burger place in Dallas.
Ben Spies appear on WSBK by surprise, so great to see him win with Yamaha.
If he found a huge difference between four stroke GP bikes and Superbikes, imagine how he would've felt dealing with the 500cc GP bikes !
He's talking about the chassis stiffness. I doubt those two strokes were as stiff as even modern WSBK's
500 might be much more stiffer. I guess due to those been so light.
NO WAY, Spies? Awesome guest dude!
BIR Turn One Baby!!! On the old track layout.
Spies was a fuckin beast on a race bike. Especially when he took the title from mat mladin on the AMA circuit. It was a pleasure watching him race
What was that youtubechannel of that european guy? I couldnt make it out
Where’s the full talk at
Bro, love you are interviewing him, but when he is explaining something about the bike please let him finish with his words. I wanted to hear what he had to say and I don't believe it was what you cut him off to say. Nonetheless, great interview and happy I found your channel.
What’s the TH-cam channel he mentions?
Ben Spies aka “Elbows”
Ben will always be my super Superbike king!!!
here in Spain we can see a lot of replicas of his helmet on the road
Always wondered this so great to hear it from the horses mouth
Don't interrupt something you don know about to approve like you know jack about it.
Brilliant video!
frame suspension flex is a interesting subject.
hard to explain.
a real thing you just have to feel i quess?
i can maybe share something about that...
i have expirience with dirtbikes, speedway/longtrack bikes and a bit of racing on tarmac.
so, those speedway/longtrack bikes, it has fuck all on the bike compared to most other disciplenes in racing motorcycles.
frame/engine/throttle/front swingarm (no telescopes or anything fancy) no back suspension in speedway and a clutch.
so on a harder surface like sturdy grass, or clay for example,
in the corners you feel the frame twisting and bending, especially when you not consistent with the throttle.
but anyway, what i am trying to say, i advice a lot of people in racing to try a speedway or grasstrack/longtrack bike, it really gives you feeling with wheel spin/grip, frame suspension and throttle control.
just because it doesnt have all kinds of crazy suspension with superb dampers and stuff, its a more spartanic feel you have to get with the bike in cornering.
but again its just an perspective from a really nuanced way of racing motorbikes.
just thought to share it here, might interrested a lot of riders i quess
peace!
“Shazy” suspension 😂
From what I observed , MotoGP is not fun to ride , more often than not you see riders struggling and everyone complaining , Yes they've the fastest machinery but fastest doesn't mean everything , the racing experience matters more , I as a fan would want a neck to neck racing experience rather than all this crap winglets that make the bike look ugly af , whereas WSBK is peak rider +performance phenomena , and much more fun to watch .
Not loving how this dude seems like he's explaining things to SPIES!!
Sbk is much better because you can technically build those bikes yourself if you have the money, and 2 races a weekend plus superpole race is way better then some prototype Ducati’s and some garbage bins with Yamaha and Honda emblems
Tires in 09 were much softer and easier to turn and lean. They must have brought Motogp tech to the street which was a huge mistake cuz street tires suck for leaning and feel. Great for wheelies but that's who buys the most bikes isn't it?
No
Ben ‘Elbow’ Spies 🤩🤩
Just let Ben speak always like your channel
Miss Spies, im an aussie but we need to see some americans back in the GP, sick of the italian and spanish guys smashing us all hahaha
Im spanish and im sick of spanish riders too😂 some of them are dirty
Cut down by injury. Not fair at all.
Also mismanaged by the Yamaha motogp team
"mhm" "yeh yeh yeh" "yeh" "right"
I really have no interest in what the interviewer has to say plus the Australian accent is probably the worst of the English accents to listen to.
So it is obvious he couldn't ride a GP bike as it should be but many comments say he shouldn't have gone to WSBK? Better there with success than be a grid filler. Oh, and Bayliss was better.
In other words, the GP bike takes way more balls to max out.
Idk if this problem is only unique to me, but I have an issue with your videos man, the audio is just too damn low. Like if I'm driving or something else that's relatively noisy, all of your videos, I have a real hard time hearing even when the volume is maxed out on everything. And I do not have this issue with other videos. So I hope you see this and possibly adjust things since I'm driving most of the day and would like to hear your stuff man cuz a lot of these guys I love. Or maybe I'm the only one with this issue and I'm deaf or something. If that's the case, ignore my comment.
Hey we don’t CARE what YOU think. SHUT UP and let Ben SPEAK. That’s why we clicked on it.
It is about what you want from the interviewee, not your own opinion
Yet everyone was hating on bautista being 2 sec off after 1 day
we cant please every one on how good a rider play
And with a spine injury!
I liked his mom.
Max Biaggi
MotoGP Busts: Ben Spies
Nope
Who’s interviewing who here? The interviewer is way too intrusive
When interviewing someone, it is customary, if not required, that the person being interviewed does most of the talking.
Which is why I will never watch another of your videos ever again!
STOP talking over your guest. We click to hear Ben not you
Send me a link to your show with Ben and I will take notes.
let the guest talk. smh
🏍️🏁🏆👏👏👏👏😎🤙🏼
Excuses excuses....
Let Ben speak, not interviewer, who's got far to much to say
Ben should have never ridden Superbikes.
Huh?
rudest interviewer i’ve ever heard. let the dude talk. 🤦♂️
Imagine having Ben Spies on your podcast then not letting him speak while you sit there and ramble on. Complete fool.
Stop interrupting and let him speak for crying out loud
Ben is a dudes, dude!!!!
To all those sating let the guest speak...
Get a big fat one up ya....😅
Good convo if u ask me...
U guys got no idea...
You got 4 sentences in without being interrupted, which is 3 more than Ben got in. And he's the one being interviewed.
How can we have no idea when we are here watching the interview? If your a blonde do not let that question confuse you and no you do not have to attempt to answer it
@@user-un5my5bw4j there's ya 1st problem.
You assumed I'm a girl by the name.
I'm just signed in to me wifes account.
Thought it was a good convo..
Like 2 mates having a yarn..
U must be a yank..
U guys are so critical, especially of commentators..
Just relax dude..
For example he was talking about the difference in a corner between the 2 bikes.
The super bike you could get back in the throttle to have weight transfer for front end bite.
The guest then said the gp bike would not weight transfer like that was explaining why and the commentator says it upsets the chassis interrupting his point and completely missed his point about weight transfer. Did that so many times
Also any man that knows how to have a conversation, knows to be respectful and let the other person finish. They taught me this in like 5th grade, you do not interrupt bc you’re selfishly moving on in your mind and missing points, not to mention it’s completely unprofessional and annoying for both the guest and us watching…
This guy has interesting guests but he can never just shut up with interjecting. Please Stop inserting your voice into whatever the guests are saying please it is super annoying, just let them talk.
Why is this guy talking so much ?
the dude who runs the podcast ben came to talk to lol
Interviewer talks waaaaaaay too much. I want to hear Ben, not you try to act you two can relate.
Stop interrupting your guest, honestly. You could be a better interviewer.
It’s a conversation g. Nowhere on any of our platforms will you find the word “interview”
@@GYPSYTALES What a good response to a viewer feedback bruh, keep it up. 👍
@@GYPSYTALES See how you answered and finished your thought, but imagine if I just cut you off and end it with "platforms will you find we respect our guest". See! not at all what you were going to say. And just because you call it chat, tales, talk....does not negate what it is by definition, an interview. No one came here to hear you did they or else you could just blog and talk on a mic about "your" opinions and it would not have any of the same merit as what Ben has to say.
Ben Spies was 2X the rider Nicky Hayden ever was. He just could never slob knob as good. Only theory that makes sense anyway.
Disagree. worst hot take ever. I followed Nicks whole career, Nicky was fortunate to have Honda believe in him at the right time. Nicky did the work and won the title against Rossi. Only reason Nick didn't win two was the gp rule change too 800ccc. It's unfair that Ben got hurt so bad, cut short his career. He had a GP championship in him as well.
@@tonyd7164lmao no he didn’t man, not even close. No way he could compete with stoner, Rossi and Pedrosa every single race
@@TheInfantry98 the 990 bikes were all about sliding it and squaring off the corner. The 800 were smaller high rpm, high corner speed bikes that Rossi, pedrosa and stoner came up on. Your right, Nicky couldn’t ride that style of bike. If they had kept the 990 no rider assist formula Nick would have been a two time champ.
Nicky got a MotoGP title son. You’re talking out your ass. Case closed.
Yikes
WSBK is way better now. moto gp has too many ducati teams. its basicly became ducati gp. thay should make a Naked world cup to. so bikes like the MT09 and stuff become even better because of compettition. my favourit bikes now are Nakeds to be honest. love my 2018 MT09. Wheelies off the trottel at 3rd and 4th
As a hardcore bike guy I have to say my favorite racing to watch is ama superbike and world superbike Motogp is just 🥱 definitely not as exciting as the other types of racing
Because of the aero BS.