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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ย. 2023
- Which of these INSANE vehicles can beat a Formula 1 car?! We teamed up with @carwow to race a @KTM MotoGP Bike, a World Rally Championship car, a World Rallycross car and a crazy Ford SuperVan 4.2 in a 5 way drag race 🏁
🔥 full vehicle details 🔥
👉 @redbullracing 2012 F1 world championship-winning RB8 car - driven by @VisaCashAppRB F1 driver Liam Lawson 🇳🇿
👉 Red Bull KTM Factory Racing’s RC16 MotoGP bike - ridden by Spanish MotoGP legend Dani Pedrosa 🇪🇸
👉 A 600 horsepower, 2.0L engine Rallycross car - driven by 2019 FIA World Rallycross champion Timmy Hansen 🇸🇪
👉 A 550 horsepower World Rally Championship car - driven by M-Sport Ford World Rally Team’s Adrien Fourmaux 🇫🇷 @MattJones 🇬🇧 and CarWow's Mat Watson 🚙
👉 A 1,500kW (equivalent to 2,040 horsepower) Ford SuperVan 4.2 - driven by Romain Dumas 🇫🇷
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if you had to pick, (if you HAD to) which one of these would you love to take for a spin? 🏁
Rally
Tough call, but we'd be lying if we said anything other than the M-Sport Puma!
F1, driving one has always been a dream
Rally car, you can use it almost anywhere...
Rally car
OK now let's do it again, on DIRT!
Well, let's be fair, F1 cars don't like airport concrete that isn't rubbered in. F1 car would have been way more competitive to the bike with sticky asphalt.
WRC 23 reference?
And if you make it a race track the f1 car will smash everyone.
Build a Top Fuel drag team too
Or in reverse....
The bike driver💀
Mad respect to red bull for bringing all this kit together and for sponsoring so many different categories of motorsport, sports, extreme sports and E-sports. Absolute legends.
Yes, but it wasn't all their kit yet. They have still got the Dakar Rally bike, cars & trucks. When they race on dirt. That will be the time we can see those machines against these cars aside for the MotoGP bike that will obviously crashes in the dirt & also F1 car that will have a massive wheelspin.
Going to look forward for that drag race dirt. I can't believe the WRC 550 HP car has beaten the 600 HP Rallycross car in this race. ☝️
@@leonwiddicombe8947 Win on Sunday, sell on Monday.... who cares that the product has nothing to do with the sports. Brand aura works... I'm all for it, they've created some spectacular videos for me to watch!
One of the best companies imo
We should drink more RedBull to support them.
@@TomVestvikfck no
Most people in the comments (who dont ride bikes) have no idea just how much skill it takes to launch a bike that fast and win that kind of race, top tier respect for Dani Pedrosa!
Absolutely, When you think about the contact patch of the rear tyre on the road plus trying to keep the bikes front wheel down on the ground on initial launch, Dani had it nailed.
Must be more difficult for Dani as he only weighs the same as a damp towel 😅
I have a ZZR1400 it takes extremely good skills to max the power
And I can’t take out 50% of its potential, still I consider myself an experienced rider, been riding for 40 years, all kinds of bikes.
This is why bikers will always be the elite of the elite when it comes to motor sport. I go to watch the world superbikes every year with my dad. Phenomenal. They amaze me every year
Just realised my VMax had half his power...... 😮
That power to weight ratio on the bike is unstoppable. Great race!
Unstoppable until the very top end. F1 is a faster machine not a quicker machine than the bike
@@ThePauliebuck A MotoGP bike will do 227mph and the fastest-ever F1 car is 246mph, 7% difference.
plus electronics allowing the wheel just to come up enough for maxium traction and those new motors are well north of 200 HP on a 400LB machine.
The F1 take the lead in any curve
@@rip.tear. Who said you that? The top speed of MotoGP bike is 367 kmph and that of F1 car is 371... There is no such 7% difference... And one more thing MotoGP bike attain that speed from base 80 kmph and F1 car around 180 kmph...
As someone said....the magic of a F1 car is not how fast it can go straight, but how insanely fast it can go around a curve.
+ Braking
F1 car beats all of these in 0-100-0 (maybe not the Moto GP)
I was surprised the F1 car didn't pip the motogp bike o the line. Then again motogp bikes are built for cornering not acceleration. All these vehicles are built to carry the speed round bends
Red bull dragster??
@@exup35 F1 cars are heavily reliant on downforce for grip. The very firm suspension also makes for very little weight transfer. Weight transfer onto the rear (driven) wheels is preferrable in a drag race. Motorcycles (in general, not even specific to GP bikes) have a tremendous amount of grip relative to their weight and power output. The problem with accelerating quickly on a very powerful motorcycle is trying to keep the front wheel on the ground so that you don't flip over backwards!
I would have loved to see the f1 car with say a 60mph rolling start. Once that downforce has kicked in and he can go full throttle its game over.@@noxious89123
The power to weight ratio on MotoGP bikes is absolutely INSANE!
IKR it's like a Mike Tyson in a Bruce Lee body.
Power to weight ratio will usually win every time, simple physics.
@@bigbosspmbexcept Bruce Lee was a Mike Tyson inside already.
@@smashingintoyouno
1,7 CV por kilo es brutal
We often forget that MotoGP riders sit on missiles.
For example in 2023, Brad Binder was clocked at 366.1 km/h on the Mugello circuit.
i wonder if anyone ever reached 400km/h+ in a bike, in a circuit or not.
@@blackcitadel37yeah, some crazy dude did 400kmh on a bridge with a stock Kawasaki H2R (with a bigger sprocket i think). You can look it up here in YT.
People pass 400 easily turbo busas in a standingile. The late Bill Warner has clocked over 500kmh (311mph) on his 1000rwhp turbo busa in a standing 1 and a half miles(@@blackcitadel37
@@blackcitadel37Kawasaki did, in San Fransisco
@@blackcitadel37jack Jarrod frost, guy Martin, becci Ellis, Philippe la Peru, Chris burns, and so many riders from u.k and u.s have already reached well over 400 kph on a motorcycle.
If you watch the bike you can see that the front wheel frequently lifts a fraction indicating that it's barely in contact with the ground. The rider has it in a constant state of almost going into a wheelie.
Great skill to keep that up. Maintaining control at the point of losing control.
wouldnt they have tc or anti-wheelie for that?
@@daddystu7046 they have but the power is too much. The anti-wheelie technology just helps, it doesnt actually stop a wheelie from happening.
@@margarita053the wheelie control keeps the front wheel just off the ground like you see in the video, that’s when a bike accelerates most efficiently.
Bike creams the lot due to power/weight advantage and bigger balls
I was 100% expecting the bike to win, but damn, it caught me off-guard just how much quicker off the line the rally cars were compared to the F1 car
Indeed....I thought the F1 car would have eaten them..
This is where the weight=downforce kick in. Plus the gear ratios on those cars are oriented at max acceleration as they don't have the chance to go up to 300 km/h on their tracks. But when it starts to get to max speed and the downforce from the spoilers starts working the F1 gets away fast. The bike was the obvious winner due to powet-to-weight ratio, but in corners and on braking they are MUCH slower. If you compare max speed and lap times on the same tracks for F-1 and MotoGP, max speed is always higher for bikes while the lap times are always better in F-1, so imagine how much more efficient F-1 cars are in corners compared to bikes if they manage to win while having lower top speed
@@eckyx9019 f1 cars have a whole bunch of fia restrictions imposed on them. They must be a minimum weight, have a specific minimum width. They have to be 2-wheel driven, there are restrictions on fuel, chassis shape, engine, maximum downforce. There are limits on rpm, on power output, the engines have to be V6 hybrid (no v8), limits on fuel-flow rate, fuel-injection pressure, amount of fuel they can carry and about a million other limits - and the rules change practically every year, slowing the car down, while designers have to constantly find new ways to somehow get that speed back
It's really much harder to make a fast f1 car that can be still be steered while following the fia rules than it is to make some vehicle that goes really fast.
@@vadimzubovich5537 That's not the reason. In fact, the higher the speed, the more downforce an F1 car produces, which equals MORE drag, terrible for top speed. For a drag race, you want less downforce and more mechanical grip to get you off the line. That's why the rally cars are quicker, because they need the increased mechanical grip due to the road surfaces they have to deal with. And they're AWD, versus the F1's RWD.
But the F1 is so much more powerful that as soon as it can put the power down, it'll quickly ramp up it's acceleration.
Also worth noticing that this kinda track surface is much lower grip than normal for an F1, which is why it's really slow off the line here. As for the bike, well, that's just pure power to weight, nothing's beating that.
@@Roman-po8yc yeah, they could make the cars much faster, but they need the rules. If they didn't have them, Mercedes would always win, cause they would always have the more powerful engines. Renault couldn't compete.
The problem now, is that there are so many rules, all the cars end up looking the same
It's the ULTIMATE Red Bull motorsports crossover 🤩
So where is the 2000 horsepower modified Nissan GT-R to smoke them all?
Love it
Redbull pls give me free energy drinks I drink your energy drink everyday
@@Seventh7ArtIf you would go to carwow, you would see that there is no chance for that mate, but fangoys gonna fanboy
The best ever,PLEASE MORE LIKE THIS❤
Didn't just get beaten by the bike - it DESTROYED the field! Dani you are a legend sir!
I slowed down the video and watched the replay at least three times to make sure I saw it correctly. 😂 that van is badass
They don't call Dani a legend for no reason, he really is a legend.
how many motogp championships
@@dmign None, he is considered legend for pushing his limit for giving his best and smileing even if he didn't win any championship.
sordo
@@dmign What's your point ?
Dani is an excellent rider + he's always been a nice guy loved by everyone in the paddock and fans.
I'll always love him more than some multiple championship winners who are total dicks.
What about Matt Watsson. who managed to get a great start that eventually beaten the 600 HP Rally cross car.
It looks like he is becoming a Red Bull driver.
If you're a biker, you know the motogp bike will win before the video even starts
as long as there are no corners or braking zones...
@@GamezGuru1 when was the last time you saw a corner or braking zone on a 1/4 mile drag strip lol?
Or if you have a brain and understand power/weight ratio
MotoGP bike's 1000 cc, but it's lighter than a legal litre SBK.
If you know MotoGP, you know there's nothing faster off the line than a Dani Pedrosa.
Mind-blowing! Watching the F1 Car, MotoGP Bike, and Rally Car go head-to-head was pure excitement. It's incredible to see the different machines in action, each showcasing its unique power and agility. Definitely a race worth watching on repeat!
There's no machine can conquer in the dirt and snow except a rally car..but i love MotoGP and F1 but they just bring it a that old machine..love it.. keep it up guys
Nobody can have a drag race without Mat Watson 😂😂😂
True
Don't forget about Ryan either!
🥚sactly
you absolutely 100% right mate
Bro I was thinking the same... 💀👍
Thank You Redbull for bringing them together ❤
Great stuff to watch! I was actually quite surprised how poor the initial F1 takeoff was... "poor" being relative, of course!
Red Bull x Carwow are such an awesome duo. Hope you guys can continue making crazy uploads like these in the near future. And if I had to pick one of these to take for a spin, definitely the F1 Car, no questions!
Mat truly knows how to launch cars with all that experience over the years!
grip das motormagazin, officalgassed, misha chadourin 💪
To ride a MotoGP bike is my dream.... That will be dream come true, I really love bikes....
I'd take the MotoGP bike without a doubt, riding a bike is a lot more involved than simply sitting in a car and steering a wheel, so much easier to mess up, you focus must be at 1000%, and if you do mess up, most of the time, you go down.
@@Presto_001 Yes, Matt really did a better job in the drag than the actual racing driver putting the 550 Hp WRC car ahead of the 600 Hp Rallycross car with its racing driver. 👏
The only thing left for Matt is to ride that Gp bike & drive that F1 car. 😅
imagine your full throttle in a f1 car and a van keeping pace to your right
Thats electric vehicles for you
electric vehicles can give 100% of the power instantly, gasolin vehicles can't
@@luissuarez8961 with 95% efficiency. Some like to forget that little detail.
It'd be disturbing for any dedicated rev head, that's for sure!
What'd be worse, if it was Joanna Lumley going to the shop for the bread and milk.
A van with over 2K horsepower lmao
I need each one of these full individual angles with pure sound 👌
Nice one Dani 🙂
That van is nutz!
Would be interesting to let them all complete a lap around a track to compare times
Using the reference lap around Red Bull Ring Spielberg would be this result :
Formula 1 2.4 V8 Engine = 1:13.425 by David Coulthard
MotoGP 1000cc Engine = 1:22.643 by Jorge Martin
The other 3 cars probably hit 1:30+ or near 2 minute laptime around that track.
F1 cars always win on track
@@rooztube because they are built to race there. put those cars on gravel though... or not as extreme - put them on some tarmac mountain roads and you see why Rally1 car has this big wing and this gear ratio.
F1 everytime.
@@terkojakobson Yeah, but put a Rally car underwater and let's see how good it is.
Can’t beat the sound of the F1 car. Gets me every time.
music to our ears 😎
Today's F1 sound is a lot worse
The early 2000s v10s were the greatest ever 😩
Yea they need to fix that. Todays F1 cars sound less exciting than my lawnmower.
Reading internet comments since 2014 has made it clear that I am the only person on this planet who likes the sound of modern F1 engines. Somehow futuristic and spaceship like...
Obviously the V8s, V10s and V12s sounded absolutely awesome, but I dont think the modern sound is bad in anyway.
The van crossed the line the same time as the F1 car, never thought I would ever see that happen.
that was intense!
I think, Dani is also the most accomplished of them all-which definitely helps.
it's super easy to lose just half a second at the start; but even this makes for a visible difference at the end of the race at 200+ kph
The way that motorbike even pulls on the Rimac is insane.
when standing its really revving plus the sheer light weight will beat all
@@WELLBRANwith an absolutely elite pilot, sure.
Most people would have absolutely no chance of launching that bike like that.
Rimac has more top speed and way less terrifying and preety safe at that speeds or more also rimac beat moto gp in drag,1 out of 2 rolling race watch video again
Yes but it needs to have the right way to ride it & can put those wheels on the ground. Even a legend like Dani can't even ride it perfectly. You can see there that the bike was still doing wheelie & losing its traction. Equals to reducing it speed.
When he raced the Nevera, the rear was massively wobbling that force him to reduce speed & confidence. It should be perfect. Anyway, you do know that Gp bike isn't setup yet to extract it's full power & torque or even mapped to it's necessary speed. Dani just let his riding dictates the outcome.. He just ride what KTM set coming from the manufacturer. ☝️
@@VarunTomee-kr6nfi believe KTM can 100% go 400 km/hr too it had clocked 366+km/hr in mugello this year hitting another 34km/hr shouldn't be a problem.
That was amazing 🔥🔥
just needed to know the time he crossed the line but this was great too, specially seeing matt here as well.
I really love rally cars and I was surprised that they can perform this good on a straight track.
to go fast off road, you need to be fast on road as well 😉
Rally cars a have incredible 4 wheel drive systems and also antilag for its turbo so get almost instant power.
rallycars have insane traction, they accelerate to 100 kph in under 2sec
Anything longer than the 1/4 mile and they'll be topping out as they have short gear ratios
Rally Cars put all their performance for acceleration. High top speeds aren't that useful in the twisty roads although going 200+kph on dirt/gravel ain't nothing to sneeze at.
Damn Dani... The wheelie control device and the man himself are wonderful
he is wheelie fast 😉
@@redbull ....Get out
@@redbull 🤑
the winglets play a rather big part nowadays as well.
not really big part of keeping front wheel down, especially at a launch@@PhilipMichalke
It just goes to show how incredible them guys are that are road racing on bikes round the TT there just amazing
This is what I found.
Fantastic.
I saw the title and thought "taken a leaf out of Mat Watson's book!" and then within a few seconds THERE HE IS! Such an EPIC line-up
we couldn't make a drag race video without him 😉
it's the collab of all collabs 🙌
Was going to write exactly the same!
It was the thumbnail for me
Drag king!😂
Mad respect for current motogp riders riding these rockets . Get well soon Pecco ❤❤❤
Apparently, he sustained only minor injuries and will be racing this weekend! It's a miracle it wasn't more serious, I feared for the guy.
That crash was horrifying, glad the injuries werent too serious!
@@TheRCScotsmani couldn’t watch the horror show so i turned off my tv. Glad hes ok. Thought his championship was done.
Rally pilots are more skilled
If Pecco landed 180 around it would have been a completely different story, I had flashbacks of the Marco crash, and I’m only watching in on TV.
Amazing races! I was on the edge of my seat lol.
Oh god, just reminded me of how much I love MotoGP!
My bike is about half that power and twice the weight, and it feels like a rocket ship. I can’t even fathom 4x the acceleration. Dani is definitely giving it everything, lifting the tire with every gear change!
It is not 4x acceleration. Get your maths right. Also it is not the bike itself it is the man on the bike.
@@_sneer_🤡
Lol you can’t say it’s not the bike itself. Sure, I and most people wouldn’t come close to him on the same bike, but that bike is an engineering marvel and not even Dani would win on an average road legal liter bike. It’s the bike and the rider together, and same for the other vehicles.
Also, you have no idea what the gear ratio/acceleration of his bike is. Assuming it’s a cruiser (twice the weight half the power), 4x is not a terrible approximation. A new Goldwing 1800 has those weight/power figures and is about 3x less acceleration 0-100mph, and older versions could certainly be 4x. Also, probably would be about 4x less acceleration if going to Goldwing’s too speed. You clearly don’t ride enough nor do enough math to be this condescending.
Yeah I’ve got an old 1000cc and it still scares the heck outta me. I can’t begin to imagine what a motogp bike would feel like 🤯
@@wiggenvan Good Reply
The skill that takes to drive a bike that fast and controlling it is enough to, give this win Dani Pedrosa.
Wouldn't want to get it wrong....like if you were carrying a pillion passenger and they YANKED on the brake!!!!
Man, i still remember when Vinales had to bail out from his bike after a long straight a few years ago because of a brake failure. That was sketchy.
@@AbrahamArthemiusDamn, I remember it very well. So damn scary, thanks god he’s thinking fast and okay in the end. Happy to see he made history with Aprilia as well.
@@AbrahamArthemius What's even worse, that was part two of the Austria double header, with part one seeing both him and Valentino Rossi almost taken out by the crashing bikes of Franco Morbidelli and Johann Zarco.
Then next year he was booted from Yamaha for taking his frustrations out on his bike at that same track. Vinales and Austria have a very spotty history.
The crazy part of motogp isn't the straight line speed like in this race it's the speed they take into the corners and the fact that they are leaning so close to the ground through the corners.
Crazily awesome race!
They should paint the van in a local plumber's livery
It's not just that the bike is so powerful and light, it's that Dani is a top level rider who knows how to put the power to the tarmac.
Oh yeah, that is the absolute truth! there is no one more deserving to be motoGP champ than this guy. And he is so humble as well. Good luck to Dani this year.
Yup a Normal Person Who can Drive a Car can Drive a Rally Car After a Simple Lecture and Some Practice in a Straight line, But Believe Me No Normal Could ever Drive a Motogp Without Months of Preparation even in just a Straight line
You can totally see that front tire perfectly touching and barely lifting off at times, but just for an instant. He putting the perfect amount of power to get max acceleration and speed yet not enough to pop the wheel up (which would obviously do the opposite of what he wants)
Dani is a very talented rider, a true professional. He's also about 100lbs, and had an absolute huge advantage in the straights compared to other motogp riders, to the point when he retired motogp used it as a factor in considering a weight combination rule. This whole thing played into his strengths quite well. On a prepped race surface the e-transit van and the f1 would have had the bike. Both were held back by traction since they cant weight shift like the bike, and had to accelerate their mass. If the F1 had traction control, there would also have been an interesting race.
Siento decir que las motos actuales de moto GP tienen programado en la centralita la salida y junto a una palanca en el manillar que impide que la moto no se levante de la parte delantera en la salida , ofreciendo todo el par posible a la trasera. Dani ya demostró ser un grande y ha hecho grandes salidas sin estar implantado este sistema más moderno en moto GP cuando el corria.
Motogp bikes are insane... Kudos to Danny!! But the fact that the F1 car is from 2012, more than decade old and still goes head to head with the latest racing machines is absolutely remarkable
an F1 from 30 years ago on a full track lap would still be in P1
@@IStMlagainst the other cars yeah but against modern f1 nah. Modern f1 are 10sec faster than 1993 f1
@@0455Javi Give the V10 F1 cars like what Schumaker drove proper slicks and I've better the old gal would throttle the modern V6s. She certainly sounds far better.
@@STAMPDesign but hamilton got the fastest in 2020.
Not really, this particular RedBull F1 from 2012 actually sucks both at launch and at top speed. The 2004 Renault F1 (that was on TopGear show with Stig and had TC, remember?) would have beaten the MotoGP, and i am not shiting you. Honestly this 2012 F1 RB8 makes F1 drag racing look bad.
Realmente é magnífico como fizeram essa junção de disputa com todas as equipes Redbull bom quase todas 😊
Consegue me tirar uma dúvida? Comecei a acompanhar corridas faz pouco tempo. Tem diferença o Rali para o WRC?? Achei que fossem da mesma categoria
É wrc é apenas uma sigla para o campeonato mundial de rally
WRC Car was the quickest off the line and kept ahead first few seconds which is amazing considering these machines are driving on treacherous dirt roads, snow, ice, mud...must be wild driving these on stages
The ride height devices of MotoGP bikes really make them launch like a bat of out hell. Of course you need someone like Dani to extract the best out of the bike on the limit. ❤
It's crazy, it not even the 'fastest' straight line bike in the competition.
@@KireiAnimasiit's more of a torque beast not the fastest. Fastest don't actually needed on track
@@anveshn8609 i think he meant that the redbull bike is not even the fastest in straight line speed in motogp..its the ducatis
It’s the weight mainly. Easier to get that little mass moving compared to the other cars. Such an insane feat of engineering though!
Get Binder on his KTM.. currently speed record holder.
MotoGP pilots are just the craziest guys in motorsport....
incredible athletes 💪
Nah the craziest are TT riders but these guys are still damn crazy
@@clutchnorris3892TT riders😂😂😂😂.. TT racing isn't more than a drag race.... I would like to see a 45° turn on a TT road.. If you see there are more crashes in motogp than TT because Motogp riders are every time on limits...
@@salttea8926 He said "crazy." How many deaths are in the TT compared to MotoGP? Which drivers are crazier then?
Awesome Dani!
Congratulations Dani! You deserve a trophy for this!
That van is absolutely insane! The aero is so sick. Imagine driving a van as fast as a f1!
In the 90s there was a Van with an F1 engine. The Espace F1
Especially when it is nowhere near as fast fool
@@cultofpersonaliity69 also a 607 i think
Don't want to take any corners with it though :D
Imagine a V1 race instead, that be interesting to watch, especially with takeovers and seeing if the ol’ switcherroo would also occur with van racing. 😂
Super excited to see Dani’s wildcard MotoGP appearance! Long live the Samurai!!!
He is becoming Matt Watson's buddy. It wouldn't be surprising if we see him on Carwow more often driving a car alongside Matt, Yanni & Sam.
The world's greatest MotoGP rider to have never won the title! A legend for sure
Hey, Alonso is the Samurai, he even has it tattooed on his back.
@@mariusbarnardo5592but 2 x 250cc & 1x 125cc World Champion
@@aaronburke8892 a true legend.....
I'm glad there was a co-driver. 😊
As a life long biker I can tell you first hand bikes beat most cars in a quarter generally. The weight difference would take a huge amount of power to overcome. The top tesla can, a few cars can beat a few low end bikes, but in general the smart money is always on the bike.
Dani is THAT GUY! The best to ever do without winning a top tier championship. Always came 2nd to Rossi and gang. Even @ 37 he showed he is still a BEAST in his 2 wildcard rides this year. I miss seeing him line up on Sundays.
@@AJ__Sachinhe wasn't wild carded there...
ALMOst win motogp in 2013
Unlucky he being hits by own team mate .
It takes freakin skill to not wheelie that bike at launch
Oh he never won? I stopped following moto GP many years ago.
Being a Rossi fan I never liked Pedrosa but I do feel sorry he never won.
@@mshahrulhishammdsharom1497 and to think hes gonna be sacrificed to a satellite team if stoner keeps playing cause aint no way honda is gonna miss out on marc marquez
It can’t be downplayed at how quick modern WRC cars are now.
10 years ago it would’ve been smoked by everything there, now it’s genuinely keeping pace with a Rallycross cars and an F1 car for a short distance.
The runway surface doesn’t help the F1 car, but even so. Very quick.
it makes sense tho, rally stages mostly happen below 200 km/h (125 mph roughly) so the trick is acceleration and maintaining as close to 200 km/h in EVERY possible situation on public roads.
There is also the misconception that Group B vehicles still beat WRC cars due to their higher power rating. That WAS true until roughly 2012-2015, when really extreme aero kits were allowed and the power cap was raised. By 2021, the technology on suspension, tires, engine, aero and materials had advanced so much that despite being capped at 380hp (compared to Group B's 500hp), WRC was beating those old cars by A LOT.
Also the p208 WRX kept jumping the start like crazy. They are more equal, like in the first drag
There is a legend about a Group B Rally car that did a lap time at Estoril that could have made it mix with some Formula 1 cars
@@luisvilleda4616 It could have been either a Lancia Delta S4 or an Audi Quattro S1 E2. Both at the peak of Group B in 1985 were speed monsters.
However, that can be questionably true even today if you check the video; rally cars (WRC and Gr.B both) have AWD and short gearboxes (unlike F1's >300km/h speeds, rally cars are only expected to reach around 220km/h), so they have an insane acceleration at lower speeds. A 550hp Gr.B car could very well beat or match a 700hp F1 car of the same era if the track has enough corners (both cars also had similar aero in 1985).
The energy in this video is so uniquely chaotic! 😅
My jaw dropped when the van was matching a F1 car's speed. actually insane!
Would love to see all these make a few laps on an actual circuit to compare some lap times!
Great video
In a circuit the F1 shines because of its curve speed. This is why it is the fattest car for circuits.
F1 cars are about how fast they can brake and how fast they can take curves.
(And of course, rally cars are about dirt and so on)
@manojlds what about corners?
For F1 cars it is important to warm up the tires to get full speed. With warmed up soft tires they can go up to 360 km/h. But here we had extreme wheelspin because of not warm enough hard tires. But yeah, the supervan was extremely fast.
@@Riesenradd1ebthey won't have had hard racing tyres on and they'll no doubt have had tyre warmers on.
Great to see Dani! Its a shame injuries ended up hampering his MotoGP career, he was an absolute monster in the 125cc and 250cc classes in the early 00's.
Thats not Ricciardo, Its Liam Lawson. Because Ricciardo got injured binning it on a practice. How lame. And people still praise him. Ridiculous. Overrated driver. That being said i hope he recovers well. And good luck. But i would keep Lawson in Alpha tauri instead of ´putting back Ric
@@majortom4543 what are you talking about?
@@siddheshvasav9671 im talking about facts
@@majortom4543 He wasn't even talking about Ricciardo... if you watched the video he's talking about Dani Pedrosa, the one on the motogp bike...
@@user-vb4mw3uq9z yeah... You are right about that, i know, but salty me wanted to make this about Ric.
I cant stand the hype around him. I mean Mclaren decided to pay him and not have him as a driver. And people still think bro will perform better than Perez.
Incredible Dani!!!
much better than the Atom vs bike that Top Gear did years ago.. where they pitted the Atom against a 600 cc CBR.
Dani Pedrosa , one of the greatest motoGP rider.😊😊
Two weeks ago, he got the 4th as a wild card rider, though he had retired for a few years.
once a champion always a champion 💪
its marc marquez
@@redbull He's never been a champion
@@nodafy
125cc champion in 2003
2x time 250cc champion in 2004 & 2005
But he was unlucky and I think he deserved at least one MotoGP championship, at least he was fighting with the best (Lorenzo, Rossi & Stoner)
Holy cow .. that van had some serious speed 😮
but how many parcels can it carry? 😉
@@redbullmore than anyone else in the race I'd say
@@redbull who won between the Van and F1 car? Either my eyes are bad or thats a photofinish to which we didnt get the photo!
@@pianissimo7121 The van definitely beat the F1 car. Electronic engines, if they're big enough, will almost always win a race like this. Look at the McMurghty, nothing on earth can beat that car's acceleration or traction.
@@pianissimo7121 The van won. If you pause on 5:19 you can clearly see it passed the line first but at normal speed it's not easy to tell.
A part of me died when that professional F1 driver didn't know the displacement of the engine in his machine.
Love this video and race
I could watch Dani launch on that bike all day. Just absolutely ridiculous. Great vid!
Dani Pedrosa never won a World Championship in Moto GP but he really deserved to win a couple. Now we can see how Honda HRC goes aimlessly when he left. A great pilot and person. 26🏁🏍🏆
yeah i know, i wish he won a championship in his career cause he was one of my favorite motogp riders decades in the early 2010-2015 forward until he retired when he was racing with casey stoner, lorenzo, rossi, also he seems like a cool humble dude.
I 100% agree, Dani deserves at least one championship.
He just done a wildcard in MotoGp and came 4th. Absolutely insane result after all these years of being retired.
F1 be like : Just give me a turn to prove who is fast
Pedrosa made so much of my childhood man
Who would have thought 11 years ago that a van would be as fast as a V8 F1 car (in a straight line)
the Renault Espace F1 crew would like to have a word with you 😉
Only cause it's hard-core moded they have lots of money to spend
that's a people mover, not a van! ;)
@@HxTurtle
@@conradtimms1510 what do you think a van is?
Renault Espace is a people mover, Ford Transit is a van. Those are just facts, and nothing to do with what you or I might
think. @@HxTurtle
I'm always amazed at how quick the motogp bike is. every video i have seen it wins, even against much more powerful road bikes (such as the h2r and hayabusa)
Great race! I almost forgot to breathe 😮😮
Mat is the official Drag Race daddy on Planet Earth, don't we all just love Dani :) Thank you Red Bull!
Dani really had crazy adrenaline, going that fast without seatbelts.. The power to weight ratio on MotoGP bikes is absolutely INSANE!.
1.85 lbs for every 1 hp assuming a body weight of 150 lbs. Its crazy to think about but a bone stock gsxr10000r with a 150lbs rider would be at 2.98lbs/1hp and Anyone can buy one! Do a fender delete, swap to a much lighter wheel, and swap to a light weight performance exhaust. Have it professionally tuned and you can now beat $500k+ cars.... if you can control it all 😊
@@Lronhoyabembe I used to have a Honda 600RR. Not even the fastest bike out there, but anyone who thought their car was fast would try to race me. Half the time I could smoke them with one hand, not even bothering to downshift. There was only one time, a Toyota Supra went flying past me. I sped up and maintained, but didn't close any distance on him.
@@huntstyle yea my buddy wanted to race me with his scat vs my gsxr600. 0-60 I win, to 100 I win, to 135 I win eventually I started to slow down and his top end is higher than my 600 so he got around me because there was enough road but let's be honest. How often you going to have more than a mile of wide open Mexican highway to mess around on?
they lean at like 60 degress + too. They lean so far over that if the bike was stopped on a stand at 60 degrees over you couldn't get on it.
Fascinating. F1 cars are the cornering kings but that bike is a missile on acceleration. Rally car must be great fun.
Now this is the "REAL" drag race
I see Mat, I click 😂
Damn this lineup is insane 🔥
That RB8 tho, never gets old 🥵🔊
the RB8 sounds like a naturally aspirated symphony 🎼
@@redbull Hallelujah...! 😌
Renault RS27 V8
But they didn't show Mat until the video started so how did you see him before you clicked?
@@redbull Please, fans are looking forward to see the proper 2021 Rb16B F1 car on Carwow next time against the Rimac Nevera & the others Matt will have on the show.
That could be a proper way to gauge the F1 car to these modern battery cars today. 👏
The launch of MotoGP bike, when it got traction, is absolutely insane! It's like fighter jet switching afterburners on.
That was fun to watch.
AWESOME !
This is one of many reasons why even F1-stars go to see MotoGP racing. Hats off to all the cars as well. Insane!
If only there had been one corner... ;)
@@Chris-lj6xl😂
@@Chris-lj6xlnice cope, that safety cage should be called a virgin cage. F1 nerds mentals are decimated and it's by far the worst Motorsport in existence right now.
@@Chris-lj6xlI can outcorner an f1 car on my superbike. Gtfo of here weirdo
@@thanksskeletor4812"virgin cage" like you the one who would survive a crash at least 200kmph. Netflix has made a whole series about F1 racing. You are a caveman and it's showing sybau and come out.
Just today I saw an interview with Lewis Hamilton where he mentioned that F1 cars are not that fast in straights but it can cut corners faster than most fast cars.
the crazy thing about F1 cars is that they're even more special at high speeds 😉
It can cut corners faster than any other cars or bikes for that matter
@@B0RlS there's a crazy EV with some massive fans that suck it down onto the road that can corner like crazy, wonder how the F1 would go against it.. Probably too brutal a G force to have a safe race though.
If we're honest the RB8 wasn't that fast acceleration wise, get a current F1 car and it would smoke it
@@--Nath-- mcmurtry ,right? matt from carwow has a great video with it.
It´s videos like this that makes a lifetime sportsbiker smile from ear to ear.. You 4-wheel guys never learn 🤪😄 (Aaand yes.. I know a top-fuel dragster can beat any bike on the planet).
Just remember that after 2 full throttle races, the van would have to charge for 12-24 hours before it could do a third race 🤣
Dani is a hero, a fine sportsman and an amazing talent. Should have been MotoGp champ many times over.
Unluckiest GP rider of all time. Always falling to injuries during his good seasons. Doesn’t help that he was riding in an era of monsters like Rossi, Stoner and later Marquez
@@zackong2800he's a great technician now
Any meatball with more balls than brains can tape the throttle. It's the corners that count.
@@zackong2800 huge respect for Dani. He would have won a title or two if not for HRC totally catering to Marq imo at the time...
Man the sound of MotoGP Bike and F1 combined is just music to ears, but that van was freaking insane in speed 🔥
They invited Matt hahaha awesome
Good job Dani!
Wow! I'd love to take any of these cars for a spin I actually made a video on 2023 LUXURIOUS CARS. I'll add them on my list 🔥🔥🔥
Super cool! I agree with you
I agree! I would love to take any of these cars for a spin too. It sounds like you made a great video on 2023 luxurious cars. I'll be sure to check it out.
Great idea, keep going!
Agreed, these pro race cars are so cool🔥
I too would love to have a spin with these hot wheels. Gonna check out your vid as well. More luxurious cars makes me feel motivated seeing them and dreaming of owning one.
Dani's main problem (and great skill) is keeping the front wheel somewhere close to the ground. He couldn't use max power until he got into the upper gears. Moto GP riders know exactly how much power to give the rear tire in order to keep the front tire an inch or so off the ground for max traction and acceleration.
No skill just anti-wheeling device…
@@31keyser43 you can't even launch a bicycle properly I bet $2000 It's far harder to even launch a 600cc bike or 1000cc bikes
MotoGP bike is hardest to launch
All of them can flip over your clown if you tried to launch them
It requires skill most important thing is the clutch
child, all modern motogp bikes (and commercial literbikes) have anti-wheelie traction control that will keep the front wheel from getting more than an inch or two off the tarmac - combined with a modern slipper clutch it's actually incredibly easy to launch them and hit every shift perfectly
@@usernameunavoidable I've got a 1000cc Kawasaki, and trust me, it is harder to keep the front wheel on the ground than off it. Change your comment from 'all' to 'some', and you might have some credibility. Calling people child when your own words demonstrate your own ignorance, is a bit rich.
@@guswrethman2156 my post was about the ubiquitousness of traction and wheelie control in >modern motoGP< bikes, and had nothing to say about your 20 year old Ninja
your inability to correctly read and interpret the things others write is a reflection of your ineptitude, not of my (alleged) lack of credibility or knowledge💅
Love the WRC Ford Fiesta hatch back. My first choice.
Always bice to see Dani :)
Those MotoGP bikes really kick in once they get tractions, it's insane how fast they go. I figured they would be the winner but it was cool to see all the machinery together!
they're like a rocket😅 on 2 wheels
It's all about the horsepower to weight ratio, ...plus gear & final gear ratios, and then the wind resistance factor. The MotoGP bike clearly has all the advantage of each metric.
@@redbullDon't forget the racism 😈🔥😈🇩🇪🇦🇹
@@Perfil.1like a racist on two wheels 😅
@@warped2875the only disadvantage is that it can’t accelerate with much more than 1g as it would do wheelie if it did, thats why it wasn’t fastest off the line but it could keep up the acceleration up to the end where the cars struggled with everything you mentioned.
Man, the Van.
😵💫
We love Adrien Fourmaux here💖
Dani is such a great Rider.. Amazing to see what he can brings with this MotoGP Bike !!
He was more than capable of being a Top Class Motogp World Champion, but unfortunately spent most of his career in the era of the Aliens... Rossi, Márquez, Lorenzo
@@manuelrodriguez2637 😇😇😇
The way that MotoGP bike pulls once it can put its full power down gives me shivers
But ktm still has grip problems, i always hear binder complaining about the rear spinning too much. Imagine if they fixed that🤯
Shame they didn't do rolling start. Obviously F1 had problems with traction off the line.
@@Ministry_0f_Truthwoudlnt make a difference. The bike was pulling away from everything, you can see it pulling away from the transit as the transit from reeling in and overtaking the F1 car. Sure the F1 decimates all on track but in a straight line bike will always come out on top. An 30k m1000rr reels in this same car from a roll race on the carwow channel and thats nowhere near motogp speed
@@ashofficial790f1 cars have a higher recorded top speed and a faster 0-200km:h time so think again
@@whatbruz4202 I mean sure? If you want to give them enough space and time you could rig a test so that the vehicle with the higher top speed wins. But how is that particularly meaningful or interesting?
What is the navigator doing in the rally car on a straight stretch?
motogp driver:UNHUMAN ..motogp bike :UNEARTH..period FULL RESPECT