I've had a PS4 pro since it came out. I immediately swapped out the 1TB HDD for a 1TB SSD. The loading speeds are so nice! If the PS5 pro doesn't vastly improve on the hardware and software. I might just wait for the ps6. Tldr. Love my PS4 pro with SSD.
Me too! Pro with evo 870 4 tb and it's only a few seconds slower than my Ps5. Turn on reality creation on a sony tv and try to pick out the difference. Beyond ray tracing they look identical
Exactly the PS4 pro is a impressive system I was little disappointed in the PS5 you can't tell the difference in graphics before next gen consoles used to have a big cap from the previous model like you can see a big difference between PS1 and PS2 but not with the PS4 pro and PS5 I think u might see the big cap with ps6 or PS5 pro if they make that
Likewise, and you can put that PS5 money into PC gaming instead, heck get a Steam Deck. Budget PC gaming has never been better... plus Sony games release on Steam eventually these days.
An optimized Ps4 Pro (iykyk) with an SSD is still a capable gaming machine today (it's showing it's age at points though) I've had my PS5 with an SSD for about three months now, while I love it It made me appreciate my Pro all that much more. New thermal paste and a new fan after 5 years and she still runs strong and quiet. I'll keep that console forever, it is such a good system.
SSD is overkill. Most games run at 6MBPS and this is why the original hard drive is 8MBPS. SSD has more latancy. I have a 4TB PS4 with 128MBPS HDD and its faster than the original drive. I upgraded my drive for maximum storage so I don't delete games. Storage is more important than load times. Who cares how fast a console loads if it has no games installed? I got over 100 games installed in digial format. I don't have to eject disc, and replace disc drives that fail after a year of use. I'm happy with it. A SSD only makes it load a split second faster.
@@sleepwalker29that's why internal SSD's save you from having to replace hard drives when using physical copies of game's. How much did your new HDD cost? Because I'm about to replace my stock HDD for a internal SSD. All I have are physical copies of game's.
The biggest turn off for me was the lack of availability. I would've spent the money for it.. To get from a scalper would've meant risking not having a warranty. So I ended up building a PC and using a Dualshock 4. I'm happy now.
@@DieFoe I realized for as much money as I put into the tower, I could've bought a really top spec gaming laptop for a bit less. At least the build was fun.
@@jayvofficiall For price console is better, for performance, PC will always be better. Ignoring the fact console is better optimized and has exclusives. Goes down to what your PC is running a gtx 980 i5-9th gen easily beats old gen by a mile.
I think your spot on. I recently purchased a ps4 Pro at a great deal to. I decided to do that and wait the while until the ps5 pro is released no doubt Sony will. I saved a a lot of money right now. Ps4 pro has at least 4 more years left in it. Super work G. T.
I just bought a ps4 pro! I want a ps5 but I am fed up with competing with these bots, I would rather wait until I can go into a store and buy one easily in one to two years or maybe just wait for the ps5 pro.
Excellent plan. You won't regret it. When you buy new games, get digital and get the ps5 version. They usually give you the ps4 version free. So you can play now, and have it for ps5 later
Same... The games will be there and the game sales will be better too. I'm mostly a sports gamer anyways so the yearly releases will have their improvements over time also. Good to be patient.. I'm still enjoying my PS4 pro
I agree with everything you said. as a gamer who is about the experience, after feeling that haptic feedback of the p5 controller made me want to get it even more. But holding off on a ps4 pro isn’t a bad move either. It still has most the capabilities a next gen console has, for me i would rather put the money i have to a newer console anyway. At retail price ofcourse.
@@mikeysgametime8914 what are you talking about what he said makes sense lol. He said if you’re spending the money might as well get a ps5 but otherwise a PS4 pro still isn’t a bad choice
Glad I bought my PS4 Pro but held back on new.. I wanted to see what it could do first (£300 for pro, PSVR, Camera and 2 Move controllers)... Next upgrade is a 8Tb SSD Samsung Evo drive.. Already have PSVR and Pinball games Pinball FX VR2 and many more PSVR).. Need SSD for Witcher 3 and more games still being developed.. There is life in the old dog yet!!!.. Please watch this for the SSD drive upgrade and don't delete.. Worth a watch.. -> th-cam.com/video/E07IM_bArGQ/w-d-xo.html
That was an awesome review, definitely what I wanted to hear right now…. I’ve been trying to buy a PS5 but I already have a PS4 Pro, so this is exactly what I needed to hear. Thanks for the heads up.
The gap in graphics is very small is an overstatement. The gap is HUGE. 4k 60, VRR, 12 bit color, sound quality (I use their PS5 headset), controller, time to load, UI, PS5 only games, PS5 only games that you get with PS Plus. Just an example - I play Battlefield 5 on both systems - I have an Alpha chassis PS4 PRO and an Gamma chassis PS5 (I had an Alpha chassis that got stolen). The PS5 has the following advantages - better load times, better texture loading in the distance (I can see things that I can't see on PS4), PS4 is a jet engine in all games because of the chassis, I can hear better, the colors are way better, the HDR is way better, VRR helps me a lot with lag, better controller.
You can also switch the HDD for a SSD on the PS4 pro and get faster load times, ps5 will still be faster but I’d say only about 15-30sec that’s what I did since I can’t get a ps5
Load time is miles faster on the 5 I have both an I run at 120hz were possible I alway max it out an it handles everything I throw at it with ease would never go back to ps4 pro
For having both a PS4 Pro & PS5, I'll guarantee that you'll miss the 5 once the jet engines start up on the Pro. That in my mind is a game changer. I remember being in party chat and those in my chat group could actually hear the Pro's fan.
@@GearsAndTech I took mine and had it cleaned and thermal paste replaced was quiet(er) for a short time. But before long, jet engines again. Possibly the shop I had do the cleaning and thermal paste just did a crap job.
It's true small different graphics between PS4 pro to ps5,,and besides continues to produce and make another games ,,it's worth it ps4 pro this year 2021
I wanted a ps5, couldn’t get one, so I spent some money on a PS4 Slim, and that’s the only ps4 model they still make, and i am satisfied with it completely. I do have a gaming pc now, 5 months after I got my PS4 but I still play my ps4. It’ll be relevant for at least 4-5 more years I bet.
Dude everything you said is so true. All the hype on the new gen consoles has been so misleading… many players think they need to upgrade their TV/monitor with HDMI 2.1. It’s definitely not needed. 30fps to a fixed 60fps is all the upgrade that was needed in console gaming. Even 4K is over hyped. 1080p or 1440p at 60fps is still impressive for console gaming…. As far as ray tracing goes, again another selling feature that’s not needed. I have a PS4 pro & an Xbox one X both have a good selection of games that play phenomenally well at 1080p or 4k at 60fps.
@@EazyNuh640 these games can at 60FPS at 1080p boost mode on. Many others too. last of us remastered Shadow of the Tomb Raider God Of War God Of War 3 Remastered Metal Gear Solid V Star Wars Battle front
I just got a used ps4 pro. I here just to make myself feel better for not splurging on the new console. Saved 300 bucks too. And games are less than 10 bucks for most ps exclusives I’m aiming for.
Fair play to ya pal your spot on the ps4 pro has a lot of time left in it in terms of software. And at a decent price now you can't go wrong with a ps4 Pro right now. And if you wait a little while you'll save a lot of money. P. S great video keep up the good work gt Canada 👍
I know your coment is 2 months old but i doubt there will be a ps5 pro cause the Xbox Series S exists. The reason PS4 got a Pro was cause the Base couldnt keep up with the games but since the games will be forced to run on the Xbox Series S too this generation it dosent make sense. You cant create games that run well on the Series S but are in need of that power a PS5 pro would give.
I totally understand what you're saying and totally agree. I am hoping series s has died by then or only gets the same games as switch. So the true next Gen consoles can continue to push the boundary Don't forget about fsr. They can crank up the graphics with some clever hardware upscaling.
@@GearsAndTech IT wont die cause ITS sadly Part of this gen the games will have to run on it even in 2027 whem we are going to get the PS6 soon. best possible scenario i can think of games will look like switch now compared to base ps4 but i cant think of a ps5 pro having a game that needs that extra power and can still run on a maschine weaker than a Ps4 pro.
Only Microsoft requires games to run on both the series s and x. Sony has an opportunity to license some amazing exclusives so studios can really push the system and not have to pander to the series s
@@GearsAndTech The exclusives wont be enough reason to justify a Pro version thou. if the game is optimized for the hardware the game will look incredible on Ps5 already. just look at god of war on base ps4 this system has only a tenth of the power a ps5 has. (didnt google the exact power difference).
You said everything I had pretty much agreed with. I thank you for sharing my mindset. My biggest turnoff by far was the lack of space. Plus the graphics really don't look all that different. At least not enough to bother me.
Great video , I live in Scotland UK and it's really really difficult to buy a PS5 , they sell out so fast , so like you said I went out and got myself a PS4 Pro console for £225 , I play a lot of PSVR games so im happy as the Pro definitely makes the PSVR better looking , thanks for your advice 👍
The PS5 is pretty available here in switzerland, actually it was always available but the price is around 1k. It’s almost the same like back in the PS2 era. My dad payed 750 CHF for the Fat Boy, so compared today, ergo the inflation rate, it’s around the same price for a PS5.
From watching this video it's helped me make up my mind that I should wait for a ps5 I wanted to buy one for my birthday. I'll wait and see what sony do for storage and games come 2023. I bought my ps4pro at launch and its still working great.
I just got one second hand. There is currently only two future games coming that I care about. Gt7 and the new test drive and both of them are coming to the ps4 pro. No brainer really.
@@theguy9702 no I don’t want ps5 right now because I have still not played all ps4 titles that I want to play so there’s still time before I get my hands on ps5. Besides you are right, I can’t find it anywhere 😂
Great Points, I own a Pro, but the main game I want to purchase right now is Elden Ring which does not run at 60fps on the Pro (only 30fps), and I love Destiny 2 pvp and again, it only runs at 30fps where it runs at 60fps (or better?) on the PS5. And, I would like a 4k movie player, which was a major let down when the ps4 didn't get it (and again when it wasn't announced for the pro upgrade). So for me, the purchase of a ps5 is a bit more significant as it offers quite a bit more for my gaming and movie experience.
Same here. I run Destiny 2 on PS4 pro. I tried D2 on steam on older computer, and I can't believe the load and game was so much smoother than PS4 and get to change fov slider. But that means I have to rebuy all dlc. Lol. Still thinking about ps5
Because until the slim comes out you can enjoy all the same games on your old ps4 without missing a whole lot After the slim comes out you will see Sony start walking away from ps4 support so getting a ps5 becomes more of a priority
I sold ps3 to buy ps4 basic... I sold ps4 basic to buy ps4 slim... I sold ps4 slim to buy ps4 pro... I sold ps4 pro to buy ps5... Why? Because there are always improvements from the latest consoles that I feel, and it never disappoints.
This video points out all the right reasons to wait for a PS5 pro. I would also add an Evo 860 into your ps4 pro so you can get much faster load times. One thing that's good about the ps5 is that it forces developers to add faster load times and support för SSD HDD on ps4 pro too. So you'll benefit from what the PS5 forces devs to implement into their games not as fast as on a PS5 but 5-10 times faster than a normal ps4 pro HDD. Another thing that I think is important to upgrade on your ps4 pro is the controller. The ps4 controller is cheap and poor, it does the job but nothing else. For people who want more I suggest to get the Raiju Ultimate from Razer or the C40 TR from Astro. Yeah, they cost a bit but believe it's worth it, I can't even use a normal ps4 controller these days. It's that much difference. This way, having a PS4 pro with a 2TB SSD installed, a Profesional controller and a good modern 2021-2022 tv will make your ps4 pro look and feel like a next gen experience. Wait for the ps5 PRO it's going to piss all over the PS5 specs, guaranteed!
@@Justmeandmy20cents I dunno what u mean I have both systems Xbox x and ps5 still have my ps3 and 4 also ps4 sound like a motor lol but the ps5 is the best experience ever but the controllers break just like ps4. But the fell is amazing I thought I loved it hated Xbox x but I love both in different ways
Wait for a Ps5 pro what doesnt exist. How do you know there will be any? There was not any ps2 or ps3 pro console, why would be there a ps5 pro. And maybe, if they drop a Ps5 pro into the market, it will be more harder to get those. I think we wont see any Ps5 pro in the near future, at least 3-5 years, because of the global issues. For example there are only a few chips, a lot of resources missing and it cost a way more for them. Dunno.
I think Sony should keep selling the PS4 pro and reduce the price. It would be a good idea to keep it as a cheaper model since its still a very capable console. Maybe upgrade the HDD's to SSD's from the factory and install better cooling. They can definitely still run new games well. I just hate the move they are pulling by still selling PS4 slims and pros even though they will probably stop getting games in 3 years. Lowering the price to $299 or $249 and upgrading what they can would make the PS4 Pro a great entry level system and would be good for the environment by not creating a whole new system to fill that gap. By capable I mean it would cost more to build a gaming PC of the same specs as the PS4 Pro than it would to just buy a PS4 Pro. For the price, its an amazing system even in 2022.
I'm not sure about that. I think those ssd features are accessed by a pc. If they are accessed by the the drive controller itself then yes, they would still be available
I did this. I’ve got a PS5 but I am currently playing a white PS4 Pro with a quality ssd. No particular reason. PS5 is better from a performance perspective. But…. I don’t like the look of the PS5 much. I do like the PS4 Pro very much from a aesthetic perspective. And I enjoy upgrading consoles to see if I can get better performance out of them. Bottom line is I enjoy playing the PS4 Pro more and the performance dropoff from PS5 is something I can live with. Truthfully, most of my gaming time is spent with my PS3 & Xbox 360. I still spend more time with them than I do any more recent console.
I was needed this video and now im getting my ps4 pro tomorrow, i know the ps5 is powerful but like you said, the difference is very small maybe when Sony decide to release the ps5 pro i can make the switch to it, i got my ps4 for $170 just the console, i think it wasn't a bad deal, actually my budget is pretty tight right now but im gonna get some very good performances with the ps4 pro 😉
Its kinda misleading what your saying:) Even if ps5 games optimised for ps4 pro the pro console will struggle to keep a solid performance! Have you played gta online on ps4 pro ? The frames goes down a lot like 26 fps :) so I wouldn’t say its 100% correct to upgrade to pro console cuz eventually the ps4 will fade away more faster because games like far cry 6 or battlefield 2042 will probably just be 4k 30fps at pro console so 30 fps is becoming really bad ! And about storage like really is storage so important? Ps5 is a whole different power and faster
A PS4 Pro even with an M.2 gen4 Ssd still cant compete with a PS5. I loved my Pro like crazy afew years ago, but all that love goes towards my PS5 now lol.
@@chrisd8180 ofc it can’t, on paper ps5 shatters it, but finding a ps5 is tough and buying from adverts is like 650-700, so ps4 pro is good for like 250 quid
I bought a Series X as PS5 was so scarce. It’s a great system but there’s so little I want to play on it. I’ve gone back to my PS4 Pro today and it still looks, plays, great. What does stand out are the load time (ages) and the fan kicking in all the time.
I bought a PS4 PRO and threw a 1TB Samsung EVO SSD in it and added the Sony O/S back onto it from files on the Sony website. It loads games as fast as the PS5. All the games on the market right now were developed for the PS4 and ported to PS5, so you barely notice any graphical differences.
I swapped my ps4 slim to a pro last june and Im loving it! Basically I only want to experience higher resolution gaming on my 4k TV and Im satisfied.. 30fps dont bother me on single player games at all.. and I only play battlefield V for multiplayer and its already 60fps on pro! I'd get a PS5 once sony stops releasing games for it.. we still got Horizon Forbidden west and God of War Ragnarok coming on ps4 so im not excited for a ps5 just yet
@@EazyNuh640 eh, if u don’t have 120hz monitor u can’t see a difference mate, literally a 60hz monitor cannot project more than 60 fps basically, difference is minor, not like going from 30 to 60
@@nissan_6828 yeah ik I got the monitor it support up to I 165 fps and honestly the game from 30fps to 60fps that 60fps looks and feel so good on the ps5 worth the upgrade not gonna lie
@@EazyNuh640 paying 250 extra is debatable at the moment. I have tried 120-144hz monitors and all I noticed was stuff was smooth and fast. It takes time to get used to it and was not something i really liked
@@nissan_6828 bro I’m not gonna hold u but that’s weird how do u not like when it runs smoother. I went back to play on the ps4 and that shit was unplayable u can’t go back plus I play online competitive shooting and fighting games I have the advantage running 120fps verses 60 or 30
I'm reading the comments about the noise of the PS4 PRO. Have had mine for several years and it doesn't do that (couple of friends have the original version and that thing is LOUD). I wonder if people are not keeping it well ventilated? I got a TV cabinet and put the PS4 Pro in one of the shelves and for the first and only time I heard the noise. Next day I cut away the backing of the cabinet where the two shelves are and the PS4 was quiet again (helped with cable management, too). If you've got a noisy PS4, try clearing the dust out, and most importantly give it plenty of room to breathe, and not near hot items.
I Made a more recent video showing how to fix that jet engine sound too None of mine have made that sound very long. But mine are well ventilated as well
There's a MAJOR difference in graphics/resolution and overall performance when comparing ps4 pro vs ps5 when it comes to Cross NextGen titles such as Horizon Forbidden West for example. The ps5 will continue to come on top in any furute comparison with any cross gen title, ( esp the ones coming from first party devs ). Your arguments are valid and can only be based upon last gen titles which have an ps5 upgrade option. These titles only got a slight improvement in frame rate performances on ps5 and nothing else. Entering 2022, it would be a total waste buying a ps4 pro, as many games that are utilising the ps5 horsepower and tech won't be providing the same experience on last gen consoles ( even if some wil end up cross gen titles) further more, true next gen exclusives are planned on being released this year on ps5 only, so throwing away 250-300$ on ps4 pro is the dumbest thing anyone can do in 2022. Your advice could have been relevant back in 2020, not now.
You Forget the Price Difference between the Two Consoles... Do You Think Money Grows on Trees. Maybe In a Couple Years, Your Argument would be Valid but as of Right Not... It's Not
Even with the news today for the PS5 Slim, with no price drop - it's even more expensive!, a PS4 Pro with a SSD is still compelling. Still looks stunning, runs well enough for sure w/ both performance and 4K options, plus for 1080p TV owners there's no point for a PS5 really.
Thanks for the info that has made my mind up. I didn't know whether to get a PS4 Pro or a PS5 because I thought the new console would be far superior. After watching this video, I'll be shopping for the Pro because in the UK the stores are always out of stock of PS5s, and you can only get them from scalpers for ridiculous prices, so thank you 👍
Or you should order the Ps5 from the official Sony website. Yes it takes a few months, but it worth it. You won't get any Ps5 in the close future. It took me some months as well.
@@inkvizitor2078 I got mine last week very luckily on Targets site for $499. So I'm not playing the waiting game again. Getting rid of the Pro, finally. The time is nye.
For PS4 PRO owners like me, some personal advice. 1) Better play using a 1080p 60Hz display (TV or PC Monitor) 2) Disable "Super Sampling" whilst enabling Boost Mode. You will see not only better FPS, but have a better experience as the PS4 PRO will NOT make so much noise. And I agree that in terms of VFF (value for money) the PS4 PRO is a better deal than a super expensive PS5 (within a year or two we should be seeing upgraded models like a PS5 Slim or smth like that)
@@rRe1d I would not purchase a new PS4 PRO if I had the PS4 Slim. But, This exchange for $70 I think is a good deal. Make sure you clean the used PS4 PRO in order to remove the dust. You will find many TH-cam videos explaining how. If you live in a country where the weather is cold then your PS4 PRO will be very happy 😁 If your room temperature is below 25 degrees Celsius then you could consider Enabling Super Sampling for some games. Enabling Super Sampling will improve image quality. The problem with Super Sampling is that the PS4 PRO will generate more heat and that will put stress on it. And in some games such as The Last of Us 2 or Red Dead Redemption 2 the noise may be too much. In fighting games such as Mortal Kombat 11 or FPS games such as Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019 the frame rate is very important therefore I turn off Super Sampling. Having a higher frame rate and a more stable frame time (the one measured in ms) is in my opinion more important than the image quality. After all in both fighting games and FPS games, you move so fast where you never get to appreciate all the details of a still image (unlike playing eg RDR2)
I realize I didn't get into it specifically in the video We have a lake cottage and I took my wife's ps4 slim out there to setup for rainy days and Netflix So she needed something new at the house. Rather than get a regular ps4 I just picked up the pro for her to use. I looked at a ps5 for her, but really, knowing what I know now about it, I won't be upgrading any more of our systems until a couple years from now just like I said in the video. I need to keep at least one ps5 still so I can keep content levels up. I'm still eagerly awaiting the internal slot to unlock so I can do a review on that.
Trust me the ps5 is way better old games look amazing and trust me the ps5 is amazing compared to the pro trust me. I have an Xbox series x also best gaming ever. You need a ps5
@@GearsAndTech and if you add a Samsung 870 Evo ssd to your ps4 pro it will run like a ps5 which mine do well I have both consoles but I got my ps5 at retail but I still play my ps4 cause it runs just like my ps5 😂😂😂
I had a playstation 5 but when i was playing it turned of and now it doesn't do anything anymore. So repair costs are €275 euro's. And one other thing the playstation 5 has a warranty of 1 year. (This is what sony told me). So with the current price and deal i could found i bought a ps 4 pro because it was €241 with 30 days reflection period and also 1 year warranty. Maybe the ps5 is better and faster but if it breaks you lose quite a lot of money and I think the warranty period is to short.
I skipped the PS4 generation completely so the PS5 feels like a big deal me from my PS3. But looking at Ragnarok and how well the PS4 version plays albeit at 30FPS, I can see why anyone with a PS4 pro would still be holding off. I'm probably not going to upgrade again until PS7.
Um...problem. The system can't offer raytracing and 60fps either in most games. Most games are 30fps when you turn that on. Hell my 4090 barely hits 60fps at 4k in most rt games without dlss help. Also 99% of games don't run at 120 fps with it off either.
Crazy how you just said that, I just did that upgrade from HDD to SSD 2TB a few days ago with my pro, best $89 ever spent from Amazon, it really does what it needs to do
If you have already PS5, definitely I would not trade it for PS4 Pro+ some extra cache. Regarding of games, I got it, that most of games are cross gen due to supply shortage of PS5 in past, but some games start to be purely exclusive only for current gen. For example DLC to new Horizont will not be released on PS4/Pro, also CP77 have got nextgen update, not to mention Ratchet and Clank, which is showcase of PS5 graphics. Regarding of 4k and 120fps, C'mon , have been here really somebody around, who can thing, that this generation for this money can deliver what can deliver only GForce RTX 4090? 4k/120fps only for price of PS2/PS3 graphics quality level. 😀
I really strugle in conan exiles now with my 4 pro because I have large buildings in the server. I think about an SSD upgrade instead buy a 5 now untill the 5 pro is released. Do you have any recommendation SSD brand and make for PS4 pro?
I sold my ps5 for a ps4 pro with 2tb ssd because I have over 300 ps4 games that can't supersample on my 55 inch 1080p Tv. No way am I getting a 4k Tv simply because Sony refuses to enable supersampling on my ps5
Some of your points are well made but having had a PS4 Pro since 2017 and now having a PS5 I have a different view. One of the things I hated about the Pro was the fan. I play Warzone and BOCW too and just sitting at the Warzone intro screen and not even playing a game the fan was hammering away like a turbine. It overheated more than once and I had to take it apart and clean the fan blades to get it working again. The PS5 is almost completely quiet. The back buttons are not an issue. Warzone is a PS4 game and I just play the PS4 version of BOCW. I can't tell the difference anyway and my Sony buttons on a PS4 controller are fully supported on the PS5. I have a PS4 2 TB backup drive which works perfectly and will never buy a solid state drive for the machine. It's true that PS5 games are pretty rare but the future looks great for games like Horizon Zero Dawn that will be out in much less time than a year or 2. Now that I have a PS5 I could never go back to a PS4 Pro. I also got $240 at EB Games in Canada for the Pro which lowered the cost of the new machine . Also the new version of Warzone now supports 120 HZ on an HDMI 2.1 TV. on the PS5. No monitors yet but that will come.
@@roockie112 Dust was removed but if you fool around with thermal paste you better know what you're doing. It's very easy to mess that up and ruin your machine.
thanks for this info on The graphics difference between the two. I already have a PS4 pro that I upgraded with a 2 TB hard drive and this makes me feel much better about my decision to hope and wait for a PS5 pro release
A PS5 Pro wont happen. The reason being the PS5 is already overkill for most people, and most people who buy consoles are your average families who buy them as a living room entertainment system. Only like 1/3 who buy them are your couch potato neck-beard gamers, and even then it wouldnt make sense to make a Pro because the standard PS5 can already play at 4k 60fps, 1440p 120fps and even 8k 30fps in some games. Its already a "pro". The next PS5 will either be a revision of the current model or a Slim model, which seems more likely due to the price increase between the 4 and the 5. A PS5 Pro would be 8k focused, since its main resolution is 4k, so unless 8k TV's start selling for less than $3000 a Pro wont happen. Unless you yourself has an 8k TV then you wouldnt get any benefit from a PS5 Pro.
Easy, Put returnal in the ps5. Go to the ps4 and click on the button that says remote play Instantly you'll be playing returnal on the ps4 pro in your bedroom
New Ratchet & Clank with raytracing on in performance mode gets between 90-110 fps. Looks great. Miles Morales is similiar. Add in the Dual Sense and the PS5 really shows its next gen power. PS4 Pro is still great though until more exclusives on PS5.
Just got the 5 and just the noise reduction is worth it. Pro sounds like it's about to take off. Get a 50-100 ft HDMI cord and run it from another room
I recently heard that the disc's models are being phased out in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Will Sony implement this worldwide ? And for the PS5 Pro as well ? I will eventually upgrade to PS5 Pro and add PSVR2 $750 CDN to the tab . Just wondering what you think.
Huge eye roll... I had wreck fest on base ps4 and re downloaded it on ps5 version and the difference in graphics was mind blowing it took less than two seconds to see the graphical difference and feel the difference at 60 fps.
@@GearsAndTech That's why tho. It's always someone who had the +Base PS4+ and not the Pro model. They don't know all the extra features we had. Plus if they mainly play call of duty and they say omg 60fps feels amazing on the PS5. They are dumb because COD is 60fps on ALL consoles. xD!
I don’t have a PlayStation at all I’m debating on waiting for PS5 Pro or going ahead and getting a slim or getting a PS4 new for 300 or PS4 Pro used from GameStop. It has been 2 years since this video. What would you recommend now? I want to play old Twisted Metal games and Im getting mixed info on whether the PS4 Pro and PS4 are able to be totally offline and PS5 not an option. Please clear waters for me. I would really appreciate a response
If you can hang on there will be used ps5 for sale when the Ps5 pro comes out. I would rather have a used $300 Ps5 than a new $700 ps5 pro . A new $300 ps4 is a insane plan .
Got my ps4 Pro on launch day its a good machine but compared to my ps5 it's way out dated. I've still got my pro but haven't used it much since since I got ps5. There's no contest
Since I only have a 55 inch 1080p Tv, my ps4 pro is still preferred to my ps5 as my ps5 reverts to base ps4 mode instead of supersampling my ps4 pro enhanced games to my 1080p Tv
I have a PS4 Pro system and I was skeptical at first on getting a PS5 or not. This video opened my eyes. I guess its better to wait for the next iteration of Sony console. Also I believe there might be a PS5 Pro in development with insane specs, which could be 4K @120 frames as Promised. I would love to get my hands on the latest DualSense controller and experience it. Great video.
@@minners71 I know PS5 is incredibly powerful, with a beautifully crafted UI, Audio, highspeed SSD, and DualSense Controller. Unfortunately games aren't made that can utilise the full potential of the console. Very few games like TLOU 1,2 or GTA V, Cyberpunk 2077 or CoD gets an upgrade. Whats erks me the most is the storage space u get on the Internal SSD and paying more money to buy an expandable SSD seems terrible for some people. You can call me insane, but i feel like PS5 seems like the base console ver. like PS4. When the PS5 Pro model comes out it'll definitely have fixes, patches and improvements. Not saying PS5 isn't great. By the time PS5 Pro comes out the base model will be more affordable and will be in stock also the prices of SSD should come down.
@@minners71 That works perfect actually. I just wished we had more space on the internal SSD than getting an External drive and plugging it or taking it with u all the time. For some its an inconvenience and for other like you and even me it works just fine. I really love the latest PS5 with a futuristic design, really fast SSD n loading times, Dualsense is something! and the overall UI is something i need to experience for myself. I would love to get one but also thinking if i should wait for the Pro model or not.
Things I have against the PS5 . 1. not enough storage you don't event get a Terabyte of space , you get a little over 800 gigabytes and the system takes away a nice chunk to run the system. 2. The remote control does not last long, you have to keep charging it every day at least twice. I bought another controller for this reason, once one remote control loses power I charge it and use the other. 3. The console is too big and heavy, not a big deal but if you place it vertically there's a chance you may drop it at some point and break it. I have put mine horizontal. 4. games take a lot space from your disk storage. 5. External storage only works for PS4 games you need to buy a very expensive SSD external storage drive to put all your PS5 games after your drive runs out of space.
#4: All next-gen games are coming in bigger and fatter. This is hardly the fault of Sony or the PS5. #5: Meh, the internal drive can’t be swapped, but the minute you add an internal PCIe NVMe M.2 Gen4x4 SSD, its all gravy. The “it can only play PS4 games” thing only matters if you want to use a USB _corded_ secondary drive. Thats only practical if one wants to store media and transfer it to a соmputеr later for editing. In which case one should *first* buy a new internal drive to supplement the system drive. A 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 Gen4x4 @ ~7k R / ~6k W will only set one back about $200. A worthwhile investment for the system.
Let me help you ..... 1. No supersampling for 1080p Tv owners 2. Save data locked behind ps plus 3. No themes / folders 4. Habitual stick drift for deliberately deficient dualsense controller 5. No option to sort games by genre 6. Game list ( bastardized version of folders) locked behind online) etc
@@lordspalse0062 1: 1080p is a downgrade from 4k. If anything, thats the fault of the individual game software, not a limitation of of the PS5. 2: Saved data is not locked behind PS+, only PS Cloud storage is. Your argument is you are too cheap to pay for a service offered, thats not a detriment of the system, but of your wallet. You can physically port your saves by simply using a USB drive. 3: I do miss themes, they helped personalize the interior of the system. That’s not a performance gripe, that’s an esthetics gripe. 4: All controllers develop stick drift. It’s inevitable with the use of L3 / R3. Acting as if this problem is exclusive to the PS system is disingenuous. 5: One can sort their games by genre by simply going to Game Library ⇨ Your Collection ⇨ Sort Filter ⇨ Sort By ⇨ Genre. One can even make Game Lists which work much the same as having ‘folders,’ though I would prefer it would show my Game Lists under Installed or under the main Game Bar. 6: Yes, this over-reliance on PSN network connectivity is to me a problem. I may want to clone a PS5 drive and install it in an alternate location. Games one buys digitally will be locked unless one connects, so internet becomes mandatory. I don’t like that.
@@Korruptor There's no justifiable excuse to not supersample on a system level in 2023. A company deliberately punishing certain gamers by locking them out of the 4k mode of every game must be said to be pathetic to say the least. Your second respond is immature and outright senseless. That I don't subscribe to a service doesn't mean I'm cheap. You're unprecedentedly stupid as I actually have over a years worth of ps plus subscription but this does not make locking basic features behind a paywall the right thing to do. Note also that sorting games by genre is an online only option. You literally also can't save ps5 save data to a usb stick whether online or not. You're just a pathetic Sony damage controller general at this point. You're no different in mindset from your father Sony. You should change your name to 'corrupted' as clearly Sony has been a bad influence on your mental perception in life.
@@lordspalse0062 A company? Sony or the software developer? The software developers _individually_ select if their program will run on what set of specs when moving to a next-gen system. Thats not the fault of Sony. So blaming Sony is asinine. If you’ve paid for your PS+ Cloud storage, what exactly is your complaint? You only need it _once_ when upgrading from a 4Pro to a 5. The argument is only ‘senseless’ because only a fool would be playing a game on both a 4Pro and 5 and wanting cross-gen progression, instead of sticking to just one, for whatever reason. Personally, I let PS+ and Xbox Gold deprecate all the time, because I find no value in paying for a service which I don’t utilize. Cross-gen / platform progression or cloud storage is not a ‘basic feature.’ Only a few companies currently offer it, and it is only a feature because those companies host their own data, above and beyond the basic services of the Xbox Live and PSN. _Which requires an internet соnnесtion,_ *a primary complaint you had.* Do explain how you propose to offer both cross-gen / platform progression absent the internet соnnесtion you’ve complained about. Aww, yer butthurt. That’s funny.
Doesn't it come down to how old your display is? I have a 65inch Sony 4K television that is 8 years old and is still going strong and still puts out a beautiful image, so I guess it would make sense for me to get a PS4 Pro.
@@GearsAndTech And since the PS4 Pro has HDR capabilities and my television doesn't, I would still be ahead of the game if I ever do decide to replace my tv.
You know that even on the most power video cards out there on a pc like the rtx 3080 and 3090 still can't deliever 120hz while raytracing is enabled on most games unless you dial down the graphics to medium. So how can you even complain that a console can't provide that because ofcourse it won't unless its an old title game and even then your pushing it.
It’s now a year later… I just ordered the PS5 on Amazon yesterday and I’m waiting for it to come tomorrow… Should I cancel the order or should I keep it?
I prefer PlayStation personally, but i like to have as many different platforms as i can afford. Not into renting games with game pass or PS now, but Microsofts consols are still great as well.
I sold my PS4 Pro when the PS5 was announced as having backward compatibility. I still don't have a PS5, but a PS3, Nintendo Switch and Steam provide plenty of gaming in the meantime. Hopefully we'll see a PS5 Pro, and then I'll probably buy. ;)
Won't be coming out for a long time man. The most powerful version of a console usually always comes out near the end of a console's life cycle. At that point might as well wait for the PS6.
I really should revisit titles on my PS3. Was a very good console to play on. The most recent thing I did to it was to install a 1TB SSD in it. Then of course I played a bit of Tales of Symphonia.
That's what I do exactly, selling your console is stupid. I don't own a ps1 and 2 because on a jailbroken ps4 9.00 you can play all ps1 and ps2 games. Most ps3 exclusives have been remastered on ps4 so owning ps4 to me is a must and will never sell it, instead, will buy ps5 pro in the future when it comes out and will keep them both and enjoy gaming on both platforms until they die. Dunno if it's just me
One thing about me i'ma very patient person i don't jump on the first thing i see majority of people paid over a thousand dollars for an PS5 when just like you said the ps5 slim is coming and i bet probably the ps5 pro right behind that. My ps4 pro still running good and hitting 60fps i feel sorry for all the people who paid double and triple for a system that's not worth it 😂 y'all could of got a PC for that price.
You're talking about money saving and yet you just wasted more money on a PS4 pro telling people to save money and to not buy a PS5 just a PS4 pro when you already had a PS5 you're very inconsiderate and that was kind of a slap you in the face to everyone else who's not able to get a PS5
No, don't take it that way. I'm telling everyone to not worry about ps5. Be happy with ps4. Or upgrade to a pro and save you're money Youre not missing anything. If I didn't need the ps5 to keep making videos I would probably sell it. No flexing here
@@GearsAndTech so what about games that are dedicated to ps5 or features. You say you are not missing anything but you are missing out on ray tracing, 120hz on cod(you said you play that, it just updated) & other games. I see where you are coming from but I do not agree with you and think your wrong tbh
I have cold war on Ps5 running right beside my wife's cold war on ps4 pro th-cam.com/video/4nOXKEPp_RU/w-d-xo.html There is very little difference in visuals on the two setups. Even though I have Ray tracing turned on. In fact, my game starts stuttering down to 15 fps for about 5 seconds at a time frequently and hers has no stutter at all. I don't have a cooling issue. And I'm hard wired in with gigabit internet. So, I think it's just the gpu chugging through some code that isn't optimized right. Fortunately it doesn't crash. But hers never has a problem
@@GearsAndTech wow, I've got ps5 and play cold war almost everyday. Never had stutter on my ps5. You have an issue for sure mate...15 fps. That isn't normal, figured you would book that as a tech guy. I had an original ps4 so I see a huge difference in 4k. Not sure why you don't but happy gaming and get a proper working ps5 when up can
I only notice it when playing local multiplayer (true lan style). So maybe it's an issue with that. Not the many guys use it like this, so texting would be difficult In any case. I will try it with Ray tracing off next time and see what happens
Thanks for the video. I am a crypto trader so I have no problems with buying ps5 now or later but I wanna buy a ps4 pro and install many games on it and external hard drive(because I missed tons of games) and will buy ps5 pro in the future when it comes out without selling my ps4 pro because I will still play on my ps4 the same way I will play on the new ps5 pro of the future. I believe that I will keep both consoles and game on both like for ever till they die but won't sell. Is there something wrong with that?
I've had a PS4 pro since it came out.
I immediately swapped out the 1TB HDD for a 1TB SSD.
The loading speeds are so nice!
If the PS5 pro doesn't vastly improve on the hardware and software. I might just wait for the ps6.
Tldr. Love my PS4 pro with SSD.
Enjoy living in the past!
Me too! Pro with evo 870 4 tb and it's only a few seconds slower than my Ps5. Turn on reality creation on a sony tv and try to pick out the difference. Beyond ray tracing they look identical
Exactly the PS4 pro is a impressive system I was little disappointed in the PS5 you can't tell the difference in graphics before next gen consoles used to have a big cap from the previous model like you can see a big difference between PS1 and PS2 but not with the PS4 pro and PS5 I think u might see the big cap with ps6 or PS5 pro if they make that
Likewise, and you can put that PS5 money into PC gaming instead, heck get a Steam Deck. Budget PC gaming has never been better... plus Sony games release on Steam eventually these days.
Same here! Ssd really makes the difference.
An optimized Ps4 Pro (iykyk) with an SSD is still a capable gaming machine today (it's showing it's age at points though) I've had my PS5 with an SSD for about three months now, while I love it It made me appreciate my Pro all that much more. New thermal paste and a new fan after 5 years and she still runs strong and quiet. I'll keep that console forever, it is such a good system.
SSD is overkill. Most games run at 6MBPS and this is why the original hard drive is 8MBPS. SSD has more latancy. I have a 4TB PS4 with 128MBPS HDD and its faster than the original drive. I upgraded my drive for maximum storage so I don't delete games. Storage is more important than load times. Who cares how fast a console loads if it has no games installed? I got over 100 games installed in digial format. I don't have to eject disc, and replace disc drives that fail after a year of use. I'm happy with it. A SSD only makes it load a split second faster.
@@sleepwalker29 while overkill it certainly keeps things running cooler and that fan is running less.
@@sleepwalker29 You can get both storage and speed in a ssd too😂😂😂😂 I'm sure you forgot.
@@sleepwalker29that's why internal SSD's save you from having to replace hard drives when using physical copies of game's. How much did your new HDD cost? Because I'm about to replace my stock HDD for a internal SSD. All I have are physical copies of game's.
@@lordspalse0062yeah that's why I'm going with SSD because I have physical copies of my game's, and that will stop my system from doing all the work
The biggest turn off for me was the lack of availability. I would've spent the money for it.. To get from a scalper would've meant risking not having a warranty. So I ended up building a PC and using a Dualshock 4. I'm happy now.
I did the same sort of... Got a DS4 and playing Steam games on a gaming laptop and Steam Deck.
@@DieFoe I realized for as much money as I put into the tower, I could've bought a really top spec gaming laptop for a bit less. At least the build was fun.
that is the way to go. this guys high af 🤣 ps5 is way better than pro but pc beats both by alot.
@@colonelradec5956 Man’s on the METH 💀💀💀
@@jayvofficiall For price console is better, for performance, PC will always be better. Ignoring the fact console is better optimized and has exclusives. Goes down to what your PC is running a gtx 980 i5-9th gen easily beats old gen by a mile.
I have the ps4 pro and I still think it’s a great system even tho the ps5 is out it’s still a strong console
U planning to get one?
I think your spot on. I recently purchased a ps4 Pro at a great deal to. I decided to do that and wait the while until the ps5 pro is released no doubt Sony will. I saved a a lot of money right now. Ps4 pro has at least 4 more years left in it. Super work G. T.
Good stuff!
U gonna wait along time bc chip shortages not gonna stop until 2024 that when Sony gonna open they own factories
I just bought a ps4 pro! I want a ps5 but I am fed up with competing with these bots, I would rather wait until I can go into a store and buy one easily in one to two years or maybe just wait for the ps5 pro.
Excellent plan. You won't regret it.
When you buy new games, get digital and get the ps5 version. They usually give you the ps4 version free. So you can play now, and have it for ps5 later
a ps5 slim is coming to people say around 2023 and ps5 exclusives are coming in 2022 so it would be perfect timing
@@user-mq9lx9im3x Coming to PS4 as well 😅
Same... The games will be there and the game sales will be better too. I'm mostly a sports gamer anyways so the yearly releases will have their improvements over time also. Good to be patient.. I'm still enjoying my PS4 pro
I did the same exact thing bro I bought a ps4 pro too cause I can’t find the ps5 anywhere at the moment
I agree with everything you said. as a gamer who is about the experience, after feeling that haptic feedback of the p5 controller made me want to get it even more. But holding off on a ps4 pro isn’t a bad move either. It still has most the capabilities a next gen console has, for me i would rather put the money i have to a newer console anyway. At retail price ofcourse.
@I Hate The Government read again
Do you speak English as you first language ? Becuz u either mis spoke, or contradicted yourself , either way, can't understand what u said
@@mikeysgametime8914 what are you talking about what he said makes sense lol. He said if you’re spending the money might as well get a ps5 but otherwise a PS4 pro still isn’t a bad choice
@@mikeysgametime8914 thank god it wasn’t just me. Especially the “but holding off on a ps4 pro” part
Glad I bought my PS4 Pro but held back on new.. I wanted to see what it could do first (£300 for pro, PSVR, Camera and 2 Move controllers)... Next upgrade is a 8Tb SSD Samsung Evo drive.. Already have PSVR and Pinball games Pinball FX VR2 and many more PSVR).. Need SSD for Witcher 3 and more games still being developed.. There is life in the old dog yet!!!.. Please watch this for the SSD drive upgrade and don't delete.. Worth a watch.. -> th-cam.com/video/E07IM_bArGQ/w-d-xo.html
I just bought the 4pro. Ill buy the playstation 5 pro in a couple of years
Ps5 pro💀
Bro no one cares
@@carlwheezer9536 Same for your comment
Did you get the ps4 pro brand new? Considering sony have discontinued the ps4 pro & its hard to find a new one now?
@@ironhidesteel5916 whats 4pro? Lol
That was an awesome review, definitely what I wanted to hear right now…. I’ve been trying to buy a PS5 but I already have a PS4 Pro, so this is exactly what I needed to hear. Thanks for the heads up.
Glad I could help!
No 60 fps games lol big damn difference
keep that ps4 pro untill the ps5 slim and ps5 pro is coming the slim is coming around 2023 and the games exclusive are coming properly in 2022
Me too lol
I just die after the video… just purchased a ps5 today, I couldn’t wait for it to be delivered and Found this video… Heartbreaking new!!!
I agree with you. That is the reason I still don't have a PS5.
The gap in graphics is very small is an overstatement. The gap is HUGE. 4k 60, VRR, 12 bit color, sound quality (I use their PS5 headset), controller, time to load, UI, PS5 only games, PS5 only games that you get with PS Plus.
Just an example - I play Battlefield 5 on both systems - I have an Alpha chassis PS4 PRO and an Gamma chassis PS5 (I had an Alpha chassis that got stolen). The PS5 has the following advantages - better load times, better texture loading in the distance (I can see things that I can't see on PS4), PS4 is a jet engine in all games because of the chassis, I can hear better, the colors are way better, the HDR is way better, VRR helps me a lot with lag, better controller.
"better texture loading in the distance, colors are better, faster loading" -That's your definition of huge gap in graphics ?😂😂
@@georgefromjungle5211 Tell me Einstein what do YOU define as a huge gap in graphics?
You can also switch the HDD for a SSD on the PS4 pro and get faster load times, ps5 will still be faster but I’d say only about 15-30sec that’s what I did since I can’t get a ps5
How to do that?
There are plenty of tutorials online. Unfortunately I don't have one that I have done
Depending on the kind you get, certain DRAM models can actually be faster on some games over the PS5.
Load time is miles faster on the 5 I have both an I run at 120hz were possible I alway max it out an it handles everything I throw at it with ease would never go back to ps4 pro
I just upgrade my PS4 to 4tb ssd super fast now best 230 bucks on a drive ever
For having both a PS4 Pro & PS5, I'll guarantee that you'll miss the 5 once the jet engines start up on the Pro. That in my mind is a game changer. I remember being in party chat and those in my chat group could actually hear the Pro's fan.
I have 2 pros going right now and both are dead quiet. If you keep them clean and the thermal paste fresh its not a problem
@@GearsAndTech I took mine and had it cleaned and thermal paste replaced was quiet(er) for a short time. But before long, jet engines again. Possibly the shop I had do the cleaning and thermal paste just did a crap job.
It seems to be hit and miss. Some never have a problem. Some do
I've owned about 5 ps4 pros and only one of them did the jet engine thing
Well my ps4 pro doesn't do that maybe you didn't take care of it or clean it
Yes the ps4 pro does have supersonic jet sounds but not speeds...lmao 😆😆😆.
Your telling the truth that’s why I’m keeping my PS4 for another year or two 👍🏿
It's true small different graphics between PS4 pro to ps5,,and besides continues to produce and make another games ,,it's worth it ps4 pro this year 2021
Now would u say ps5 worth it?
I wanted a ps5, couldn’t get one, so I spent some money on a PS4 Slim, and that’s the only ps4 model they still make, and i am satisfied with it completely. I do have a gaming pc now, 5 months after I got my PS4 but I still play my ps4. It’ll be relevant for at least 4-5 more years I bet.
Yeah I think they’ll still support it for like 4 more years.
I bought ps4 pro and am not enjoying it bcz i only play league of legegends on pc
Same I have a high end gaming pc but something about the ps4 pro makes it a great experience
@@Chris-eq6jb yeah my pc is really nice but my ps4 is also great
Dude everything you said is so true. All the hype on the new gen consoles has been so misleading… many players think they need to upgrade their TV/monitor with HDMI 2.1. It’s definitely not needed. 30fps to a fixed 60fps is all the upgrade that was needed in console gaming. Even 4K is over hyped. 1080p or 1440p at 60fps is still impressive for console gaming…. As far as ray tracing goes, again another selling feature that’s not needed. I have a PS4 pro & an Xbox one X both have a good selection of games that play phenomenally well at 1080p or 4k at 60fps.
What game is that bc most games run a 4k 30fps on the pro
@@EazyNuh640 many run at 60fps with resolution at 1080p on PS4 pro just look it up
@@owencorfield6163 I did. And the games I play runs at 30fps only rainbow six siege runs at 60fps and on the ps5 it runs at 120fps so that’s a win
@@EazyNuh640 these games can at 60FPS at 1080p boost mode on. Many others too.
last of us remastered
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
God Of War
God Of War 3 Remastered
Metal Gear Solid V
Star Wars Battle front
@@owencorfield6163 yeah but run 120fps on ps5 plus there not stable at 60fps on ps4
I just got a used ps4 pro. I here just to make myself feel better for not splurging on the new console. Saved 300 bucks too. And games are less than 10 bucks for most ps exclusives I’m aiming for.
Fair play to ya pal your spot on the ps4 pro has a lot of time left in it in terms of software. And at a decent price now you can't go wrong with a ps4 Pro right now. And if you wait a little while you'll save a lot of money. P. S great video keep up the good work gt Canada 👍
I know your coment is 2 months old but i doubt there will be a ps5 pro cause the Xbox Series S exists. The reason PS4 got a Pro was cause the Base couldnt keep up with the games but since the games will be forced to run on the Xbox Series S too this generation it dosent make sense. You cant create games that run well on the Series S but are in need of that power a PS5 pro would give.
I totally understand what you're saying and totally agree.
I am hoping series s has died by then or only gets the same games as switch. So the true next Gen consoles can continue to push the boundary
Don't forget about fsr. They can crank up the graphics with some clever hardware upscaling.
@@GearsAndTech IT wont die cause ITS sadly Part of this gen the games will have to run on it even in 2027 whem we are going to get the PS6 soon. best possible scenario i can think of games will look like switch now compared to base ps4 but i cant think of a ps5 pro having a game that needs that extra power and can still run on a maschine weaker than a Ps4 pro.
Only Microsoft requires games to run on both the series s and x. Sony has an opportunity to license some amazing exclusives so studios can really push the system and not have to pander to the series s
@@GearsAndTech The exclusives wont be enough reason to justify a Pro version thou. if the game is optimized for the hardware the game will look incredible on Ps5 already. just look at god of war on base ps4 this system has only a tenth of the power a ps5 has. (didnt google the exact power difference).
Keeping my ps4 pro for the foreseeable future. Still plays lots of games at 60fps and does a great job on newer games as well
@Taran Armstrong even if I get a ps5 ill probably hold onto my ps4 pro for collection purposes haha. Got the god of war one
I had a ps5 since launch and I bored with it already the PS4 original is still fun
You said everything I had pretty much agreed with. I thank you for sharing my mindset. My biggest turnoff by far was the lack of space. Plus the graphics really don't look all that different. At least not enough to bother me.
Yo man,I totally agree with you
Ps5 is 825gb ps4 pro is 1000gb not that big of a difference
That's like an entire install of call of duty that we lost
You need a good tv and the system for it to make a difference lol
Yes the tv is a massive deal in graphics. Easy to make the little computer monitor look slightly better. Its not rocket science
Keep both. Ps4 Pro for casual games and Netflix. PS5 for latest games.
Nah I’ll rather ps4 pro bc some games from ps5 is on ps4 like mw3
you can always do remote play with someone of your friends who have ps5
@@The_Woo1738bruh be fr
@@T38dyyou can just play ps4 games on ps5…
See i have a ps4 pro and i am thinking of buying a lenovo legion 5 but then i am also confused in ps5 suffest what should i buy
Stick with ps4 pro a little longer. When the ps5 slim comes out things will change and you will have an easier time figuring out what you need to do
@@GearsAndTech ok thanks! 😊
That PS5 is massive I'm going to wait for the slim but I do own a PS4 pro. Yeah absolutely right you make sense good advice😊
Great analysis and cost-benefit framework. Thanks, man.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video , I live in Scotland UK and it's really really difficult to buy a PS5 , they sell out so fast , so like you said I went out and got myself a PS4 Pro console for £225 , I play a lot of PSVR games so im happy as the Pro definitely makes the PSVR better looking , thanks for your advice 👍
The PS5 is pretty available here in switzerland, actually it was always available but the price is around 1k.
It’s almost the same like back in the PS2 era. My dad payed 750 CHF for the Fat Boy, so compared today, ergo the inflation rate, it’s around the same price for a PS5.
brand new ps4 pro?
Dude u amde my day and clear my doubts and tbought and i have my props4 with me for few more years
From watching this video it's helped me make up my mind that I should wait for a ps5 I wanted to buy one for my birthday. I'll wait and see what sony do for storage and games come 2023. I bought my ps4pro at launch and its still working great.
the game exclusive are delayed untill 2022 and ps5 slim and pro is coming around 2023
@@user-mq9lx9im3x too late I now have a ps5 🤣
I am using og PS4. Wanted to change to Pro version for ages, but now planning on waiting for PS5 Pro.
After 1 year ps5pro is a joke 😅
I bought a used ps4 pro a couple of weeks ago and after watching your video I’m happy I made the right decision.
I just got one second hand. There is currently only two future games coming that I care about. Gt7 and the new test drive and both of them are coming to the ps4 pro. No brainer really.
U lie u know u want the ps5 but just cost to much n u cant fine anywhere
@@theguy9702 no I don’t want ps5 right now because I have still not played all ps4 titles that I want to play so there’s still time before I get my hands on ps5. Besides you are right, I can’t find it anywhere 😂
Thanks for this video man. I'm more than happy with my Pro. I won't be getting a 5 for at least a cpl more yrs.
Great Points, I own a Pro, but the main game I want to purchase right now is Elden Ring which does not run at 60fps on the Pro (only 30fps), and I love Destiny 2 pvp and again, it only runs at 30fps where it runs at 60fps (or better?) on the PS5. And, I would like a 4k movie player, which was a major let down when the ps4 didn't get it (and again when it wasn't announced for the pro upgrade). So for me, the purchase of a ps5 is a bit more significant as it offers quite a bit more for my gaming and movie experience.
Same here. I run Destiny 2 on PS4 pro.
I tried D2 on steam on older computer, and I can't believe the load and game was so much smoother than PS4 and get to change fov slider. But that means I have to rebuy all dlc. Lol. Still thinking about ps5
Appreciate your work here... but I just bought PS5 and gifted my PS4 pro to my younger cousin... cheers
And if your PS4 or PS4 pro on 9.00 firmware you can jailbreak it.
Great video. Question for you, at what point should we consider investing in the PS5. When the slim comes out or the pro?
When the slim comes out
@@GearsAndTech why is that?
Because until the slim comes out you can enjoy all the same games on your old ps4 without missing a whole lot
After the slim comes out you will see Sony start walking away from ps4 support so getting a ps5 becomes more of a priority
I sold ps3 to buy ps4 basic...
I sold ps4 basic to buy ps4 slim...
I sold ps4 slim to buy ps4 pro...
I sold ps4 pro to buy ps5...
Why? Because there are always improvements from the latest consoles that I feel, and it never disappoints.
Good way to do it. I just went back and bought all the consoles from my childhood
Here I am in Aug 2023 watching this still perfectly happy with my ps4 and no desire to upgrade yet because it's still getting new AAA titles.
You'll be fine for at least another year
This video points out all the right reasons to wait for a PS5 pro.
I would also add an Evo 860 into your ps4 pro so you can get much faster load times.
One thing that's good about the ps5 is that it forces developers to add faster load times and support för SSD HDD on ps4 pro too.
So you'll benefit from what the PS5 forces devs to implement into their games not as fast as on a PS5 but 5-10 times faster than a normal ps4 pro HDD.
Another thing that I think is important to upgrade on your ps4 pro is the controller.
The ps4 controller is cheap and poor, it does the job but nothing else.
For people who want more I suggest to get the Raiju Ultimate from Razer or the C40 TR from Astro.
Yeah, they cost a bit but believe it's worth it, I can't even use a normal ps4 controller these days. It's that much difference.
This way, having a PS4 pro with a 2TB SSD installed, a Profesional controller and a good modern 2021-2022 tv will make your ps4 pro look and feel like a next gen experience.
Wait for the ps5 PRO it's going to piss all over the PS5 specs, guaranteed!
I never had a problem with a controller til ps4
@@dannydavideos8106 ignorance is a bless. The difference is night and day in terms of feel, battery life and performance.
@@Justmeandmy20cents I dunno what u mean I have both systems Xbox x and ps5 still have my ps3 and 4 also ps4 sound like a motor lol but the ps5 is the best experience ever but the controllers break just like ps4. But the fell is amazing I thought I loved it hated Xbox x but I love both in different ways
Wait for a Ps5 pro what doesnt exist. How do you know there will be any? There was not any ps2 or ps3 pro console, why would be there a ps5 pro. And maybe, if they drop a Ps5 pro into the market, it will be more harder to get those. I think we wont see any Ps5 pro in the near future, at least 3-5 years, because of the global issues. For example there are only a few chips, a lot of resources missing and it cost a way more for them. Dunno.
I think Sony should keep selling the PS4 pro and reduce the price. It would be a good idea to keep it as a cheaper model since its still a very capable console. Maybe upgrade the HDD's to SSD's from the factory and install better cooling. They can definitely still run new games well. I just hate the move they are pulling by still selling PS4 slims and pros even though they will probably stop getting games in 3 years. Lowering the price to $299 or $249 and upgrading what they can would make the PS4 Pro a great entry level system and would be good for the environment by not creating a whole new system to fill that gap. By capable I mean it would cost more to build a gaming PC of the same specs as the PS4 Pro than it would to just buy a PS4 Pro. For the price, its an amazing system even in 2022.
Something knowledgeable not about clout and very informative very rare these days great video earned a sub
Appreciate the support. Come back any time!
I did the same thing just afew days ago, no regrets, love my ps4 pro for another few years when Sony does a proper next gem release!
Hi, do u know if i can take my SSD from a regular PS4 and just put it into my new PS4 Pro. Like plug and play. Greets
Yes, but you will have to reinstall the firmware and all your games.
But it will work in it
@@GearsAndTech thx Sir! Boost Mode and all the other benefits will be avaiable either?
I'm not sure about that. I think those ssd features are accessed by a pc.
If they are accessed by the the drive controller itself then yes, they would still be available
I did this. I’ve got a PS5 but I am currently playing a white PS4 Pro with a quality ssd. No particular reason. PS5 is better from a performance perspective. But…. I don’t like the look of the PS5 much. I do like the PS4 Pro very much from a aesthetic perspective. And I enjoy upgrading consoles to see if I can get better performance out of them. Bottom line is I enjoy playing the PS4 Pro more and the performance dropoff from PS5 is something I can live with.
Truthfully, most of my gaming time is spent with my PS3 & Xbox 360. I still spend more time with them than I do any more recent console.
I was needed this video and now im getting my ps4 pro tomorrow, i know the ps5 is powerful but like you said, the difference is very small maybe when Sony decide to release the ps5 pro i can make the switch to it, i got my ps4 for $170 just the console, i think it wasn't a bad deal, actually my budget is pretty tight right now but im gonna get some very good performances with the ps4 pro 😉
If my ps4 wasn’t that noisy i wouldn’t even consider upgrading to ps5
i must see this : PS4 Pro Disassembly: Ultimate Guide for Fan Cleaning and Thermal Paste Replacement
Its kinda misleading what your saying:)
Even if ps5 games optimised for ps4 pro the pro console will struggle to keep a solid performance! Have you played gta online on ps4 pro ? The frames goes down a lot like 26 fps :) so I wouldn’t say its 100% correct to upgrade to pro console cuz eventually the ps4 will fade away more faster because games like far cry 6 or battlefield 2042 will probably just be 4k 30fps at pro console so 30 fps is becoming really bad ! And about storage like really is storage so important? Ps5 is a whole different power and faster
A PS4 Pro even with an M.2 gen4 Ssd still cant compete with a PS5. I loved my Pro like crazy afew years ago, but all that love goes towards my PS5 now lol.
@@chrisd8180 ofc it can’t, on paper ps5 shatters it, but finding a ps5 is tough and buying from adverts is like 650-700, so ps4 pro is good for like 250 quid
I bought a Series X as PS5 was so scarce. It’s a great system but there’s so little I want to play on it. I’ve gone back to my PS4 Pro today and it still looks, plays, great. What does stand out are the load time (ages) and the fan kicking in all the time.
I bought a PS4 PRO and threw a 1TB Samsung EVO SSD in it and added the Sony O/S back onto it from files on the Sony website.
It loads games as fast as the PS5. All the games on the market right now were developed for the PS4 and ported to PS5, so you barely notice any graphical differences.
Likewise! I am still looking to upgrade to the PS5 though, in the time being I am satisfied with my pro and SSD
Absolutely true
Well said man , one of the better videos out there now....
I swapped my ps4 slim to a pro last june and Im loving it! Basically I only want to experience higher resolution gaming on my 4k TV and Im satisfied.. 30fps dont bother me on single player games at all.. and I only play battlefield V for multiplayer and its already 60fps on pro! I'd get a PS5 once sony stops releasing games for it.. we still got Horizon Forbidden west and God of War Ragnarok coming on ps4 so im not excited for a ps5 just yet
Yeah but u get 120fps with battlefield v on the ps5 so it’s a big difference
@@EazyNuh640 eh, if u don’t have 120hz monitor u can’t see a difference mate, literally a 60hz monitor cannot project more than 60 fps basically, difference is minor, not like going from 30 to 60
@@nissan_6828 yeah ik I got the monitor it support up to I 165 fps and honestly the game from 30fps to 60fps that 60fps looks and feel so good on the ps5 worth the upgrade not gonna lie
@@EazyNuh640 paying 250 extra is debatable at the moment. I have tried 120-144hz monitors and all I noticed was stuff was smooth and fast. It takes time to get used to it and was not something i really liked
@@nissan_6828 bro I’m not gonna hold u but that’s weird how do u not like when it runs smoother. I went back to play on the ps4 and that shit was unplayable u can’t go back plus I play online competitive shooting and fighting games I have the advantage running 120fps verses 60 or 30
I got my digital ps5 for $418. Im contemplating returning ut since im still really happy with my ps4 from 2013.
Thanks pal not being able to find a PS5 anywhere was giving me depression. Just gonna upgrade my pro with an SSD and forget about the PS5.
If you want it so bad just get it off of stock x
I'm reading the comments about the noise of the PS4 PRO. Have had mine for several years and it doesn't do that (couple of friends have the original version and that thing is LOUD). I wonder if people are not keeping it well ventilated? I got a TV cabinet and put the PS4 Pro in one of the shelves and for the first and only time I heard the noise. Next day I cut away the backing of the cabinet where the two shelves are and the PS4 was quiet again (helped with cable management, too). If you've got a noisy PS4, try clearing the dust out, and most importantly give it plenty of room to breathe, and not near hot items.
I Made a more recent video showing how to fix that jet engine sound too
None of mine have made that sound very long. But mine are well ventilated as well
There's a MAJOR difference in graphics/resolution and overall performance when comparing ps4 pro vs ps5 when it comes to Cross NextGen titles such as Horizon Forbidden West for example. The ps5 will continue to come on top in any furute comparison with any cross gen title, ( esp the ones coming from first party devs ). Your arguments are valid and can only be based upon last gen titles which have an ps5 upgrade option. These titles only got a slight improvement in frame rate performances on ps5 and nothing else. Entering 2022, it would be a total waste buying a ps4 pro, as many games that are utilising the ps5 horsepower and tech won't be providing the same experience on last gen consoles ( even if some wil end up cross gen titles) further more, true next gen exclusives are planned on being released this year on ps5 only, so throwing away 250-300$ on ps4 pro is the dumbest thing anyone can do in 2022. Your advice could have been relevant back in 2020, not now.
Thanks for weighing in.
Check those ps5 exclusive titles. They all switched to be multi Gen. Even Gran turismo will be on ps4 as well.
Horizon 2 was made for the ps4 pro and ported to ps5
You Forget the Price Difference between the Two Consoles... Do You Think Money Grows on Trees. Maybe In a Couple Years, Your Argument would be Valid but as of Right Not... It's Not
Even with the news today for the PS5 Slim, with no price drop - it's even more expensive!, a PS4 Pro with a SSD is still compelling. Still looks stunning, runs well enough for sure w/ both performance and 4K options, plus for 1080p TV owners there's no point for a PS5 really.
True. I'm Stil going to grab a slim if I can anyway
Idk mate... The lack of jet engine, the much improved performance, the decreased power draws. Pretty big pros
One of the most Sensible console video's ever! 👍
Thanks for the support
If you upgrade ps4 pro with 1tb ssd, how closer will it come to ps5?
Very close.
But ps5 is really fast.
Performance is better on ps5. Even if it's a ps4 game. Pro is good to have as 2nd console for others to play in house.
I totally agree. But really tho Everything is better on Ps5 LoL.
ive had an xbox x and also xbox series s do you recommend moving up to ps5?
Yes
Thanks for the info that has made my mind up. I didn't know whether to get a PS4 Pro or a PS5 because I thought the new console would be far superior. After watching this video, I'll be shopping for the Pro because in the UK the stores are always out of stock of PS5s, and you can only get them from scalpers for ridiculous prices, so thank you 👍
Or you should order the Ps5 from the official Sony website. Yes it takes a few months, but it worth it. You won't get any Ps5 in the close future. It took me some months as well.
@@inkvizitor2078 I got mine last week very luckily on Targets site for $499. So I'm not playing the waiting game again. Getting rid of the Pro, finally. The time is nye.
I bought my PS5 solely because of PSVR 2. You will never get that with PS4 pro. I got my PS5 from Amazon and I am GLAD that I FINALLY own one. :)
I just got 2 pros for the price of one ps5. Haha. And tons of ps4 games are available and still releasing all through 2023.
@@MatrixAlphaCWX Check out Playstation's store. I just found the DVD version of PS5 being still available. Get one while its stock lasts.
Hi! This message is for the creator, How can i manage to open my PS4 and internally change the pieces to get 120fps ? Please answer me
I'll put out a video showing you
@ thank you for your reply!
For PS4 PRO owners like me, some personal advice.
1) Better play using a 1080p 60Hz display (TV or PC Monitor)
2) Disable "Super Sampling" whilst enabling Boost Mode.
You will see not only better FPS, but have a better experience as the PS4 PRO will NOT make so much noise.
And I agree that in terms of VFF (value for money) the PS4 PRO is a better deal than a super expensive PS5 (within a year or two we should be seeing upgraded models like a PS5 Slim or smth like that)
I have a slim, do I change to PS4 pro o stay with my slim, some person offer me his pro and $70 extra for the console.
@@rRe1d
I would not purchase a new PS4 PRO if I had the PS4 Slim.
But,
This exchange for $70 I think is a good deal.
Make sure you clean the used PS4 PRO in order to remove the dust.
You will find many TH-cam videos explaining how.
If you live in a country where the weather is cold then your PS4 PRO will be very happy 😁
If your room temperature is below 25 degrees Celsius then you could consider Enabling Super Sampling for some games.
Enabling Super Sampling will improve image quality.
The problem with Super Sampling is that the PS4 PRO will generate more heat and that will put stress on it.
And in some games such as The Last of Us 2 or Red Dead Redemption 2 the noise may be too much.
In fighting games such as Mortal Kombat 11 or FPS games such as Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2019 the frame rate is very important therefore I turn off Super Sampling. Having a higher frame rate and a more stable frame time (the one measured in ms) is in my opinion more important than the image quality. After all in both fighting games and FPS games, you move so fast where you never get to appreciate all the details of a still image (unlike playing eg RDR2)
What u said is so true, I have ps4, ps4 pro and ps5. Theirs not much diffence between ps4 pro and ps5.
Dude I feel bad for you why would you go out and just buy a PS4 pro for no reason
I realize I didn't get into it specifically in the video
We have a lake cottage and I took my wife's ps4 slim out there to setup for rainy days and Netflix
So she needed something new at the house. Rather than get a regular ps4 I just picked up the pro for her to use.
I looked at a ps5 for her, but really, knowing what I know now about it, I won't be upgrading any more of our systems until a couple years from now just like I said in the video.
I need to keep at least one ps5 still so I can keep content levels up. I'm still eagerly awaiting the internal slot to unlock so I can do a review on that.
Well at least you did something good for your girl that's nice I hope the content still comes out good
She seemed to like it. Plus it's white, so she likes that it matches my ps5.
Makes her feel special!
Trust me the ps5 is way better old games look amazing and trust me the ps5 is amazing compared to the pro trust me. I have an Xbox series x also best gaming ever. You need a ps5
@@GearsAndTech and if you add a Samsung 870 Evo ssd to your ps4 pro it will run like a ps5 which mine do well I have both consoles but I got my ps5 at retail but I still play my ps4 cause it runs just like my ps5 😂😂😂
I had a playstation 5 but when i was playing it turned of and now it doesn't do anything anymore. So repair costs are €275 euro's.
And one other thing the playstation 5 has a warranty of 1 year. (This is what sony told me).
So with the current price and deal i could found i bought a ps 4 pro because it was €241 with
30 days reflection period and also 1 year warranty. Maybe the ps5 is better and faster but if it breaks you lose quite a lot of money and I think the warranty period is to short.
I skipped the PS4 generation completely so the PS5 feels like a big deal me from my PS3. But looking at Ragnarok and how well the PS4 version plays albeit at 30FPS, I can see why anyone with a PS4 pro would still be holding off. I'm probably not going to upgrade again until PS7.
I have 5 I will definitely buy 5pro when it comes out in few years
Um...problem. The system can't offer raytracing and 60fps either in most games. Most games are 30fps when you turn that on. Hell my 4090 barely hits 60fps at 4k in most rt games without dlss help. Also 99% of games don't run at 120 fps with it off either.
Bro
4090 it probably hits 120
Ps4 pro is a solid console simply upgrade drive 2tb ssd I'm a casual gamer so don't need anymore space than that
Crazy how you just said that, I just did that upgrade from HDD to SSD 2TB a few days ago with my pro, best $89 ever spent from Amazon, it really does what it needs to do
i have a ps4pro which stopped working during gameplay!
The disc(Sky Rim)is still inside...Where can I get this fixed? (Vancouver BC)
If you have already PS5, definitely I would not trade it for PS4 Pro+ some extra cache. Regarding of games, I got it, that most of games are cross gen due to supply shortage of PS5 in past, but some games start to be purely exclusive only for current gen. For example DLC to new Horizont will not be released on PS4/Pro, also CP77 have got nextgen update, not to mention Ratchet and Clank, which is showcase of PS5 graphics. Regarding of 4k and 120fps, C'mon , have been here really somebody around, who can thing, that this generation for this money can deliver what can deliver only GForce RTX 4090? 4k/120fps only for price of PS2/PS3 graphics quality level. 😀
I really strugle in conan exiles now with my 4 pro because I have large buildings in the server. I think about an SSD upgrade instead buy a 5 now untill the 5 pro is released. Do you have any recommendation SSD brand and make for PS4 pro?
Really any ssd will be fine.
2.5 inch sata 870 evo by samsung you choose your size
In 3 years the ps5 will be ideally the time to upgrade
I sold my ps5 for a ps4 pro with 2tb ssd because I have over 300 ps4 games that can't supersample on my 55 inch 1080p Tv.
No way am I getting a 4k Tv simply because Sony refuses to enable supersampling on my ps5
Some of your points are well made but having had a PS4 Pro since 2017 and now having a PS5 I have a different view. One of the things I hated about the Pro was the fan. I play Warzone and BOCW too and just sitting at the Warzone intro screen and not even playing a game the fan was hammering away like a turbine. It overheated more than once and I had to take it apart and clean the fan blades to get it working again. The PS5 is almost completely quiet. The back buttons are not an issue. Warzone is a PS4 game and I just play the PS4 version of BOCW. I can't tell the difference anyway and my Sony buttons on a PS4 controller are fully supported on the PS5. I have a PS4 2 TB backup drive which works perfectly and will never buy a solid state drive for the machine. It's true that PS5 games are pretty rare but the future looks great for games like Horizon Zero Dawn that will be out in much less time than a year or 2. Now that I have a PS5 I could never go back to a PS4 Pro. I also got $240 at EB Games in Canada for the Pro which lowered the cost of the new machine . Also the new version of Warzone now supports 120 HZ on an HDMI 2.1 TV. on the PS5. No monitors yet but that will come.
The fan is loud for sure!
My pro is no problem
Fan was loud for 2 reasons. Dust and the need of thermal paste. Get those 2 things fixed and you barely hear the pro.
@@roockie112 Dust was removed but if you fool around with thermal paste you better know what you're doing. It's very easy to mess that up and ruin your machine.
@@bluesy1234 that's true though you couldn't be any more right about that
thanks for this info on The graphics difference between the two. I already have a PS4 pro that I upgraded with a 2 TB hard drive and this makes me feel much better about my decision to hope and wait for a PS5 pro release
A PS5 Pro wont happen. The reason being the PS5 is already overkill for most people, and most people who buy consoles are your average families who buy them as a living room entertainment system. Only like 1/3 who buy them are your couch potato neck-beard gamers, and even then it wouldnt make sense to make a Pro because the standard PS5 can already play at 4k 60fps, 1440p 120fps and even 8k 30fps in some games. Its already a "pro". The next PS5 will either be a revision of the current model or a Slim model, which seems more likely due to the price increase between the 4 and the 5. A PS5 Pro would be 8k focused, since its main resolution is 4k, so unless 8k TV's start selling for less than $3000 a Pro wont happen. Unless you yourself has an 8k TV then you wouldnt get any benefit from a PS5 Pro.
You didn't upgrade your ps4 pro 😂😂 Better wake up and put a ssd in it before you mention the word 'upgrade' again.
Ps5 controller hyp feedback is awesome.
I just did the same thing. No regrets. Ps5 needs time.
Nice .. Still have the Pro for the bedroom ... but can you tell me how can I play Returnal on PS4? :D
Easy,
Put returnal in the ps5. Go to the ps4 and click on the button that says remote play
Instantly you'll be playing returnal on the ps4 pro in your bedroom
New Ratchet & Clank with raytracing on in performance mode gets between 90-110 fps. Looks great. Miles Morales is similiar. Add in the Dual Sense and the PS5 really shows its next gen power. PS4 Pro is still great though until more exclusives on PS5.
Is the ps5 controller not sharp for you on the edges ? Right below were you hold it
Not sharp as in unfinished plastic. But the taper was hard to get used to
I'm good with it now
@@GearsAndTech so the feeling goes away ?
Yes. It took me about a month. Now I have a hard time using PS4 controllers
@@GearsAndTech so you can describe the feeling same as going from ps3 contr to ps4 contr
PS3 to PS4 was actually pretty easy
PS4 to ps5 was the worst.
Just got the 5 and just the noise reduction is worth it. Pro sounds like it's about to take off. Get a 50-100 ft HDMI cord and run it from another room
So u just got it for the sound only lmao
Dust. Just dust
I recently heard that the disc's models are being phased out in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Will Sony implement this worldwide ?
And for the PS5 Pro
as well ? I will eventually upgrade to PS5 Pro and
add PSVR2 $750 CDN to the tab . Just wondering what you think.
I have psvr2 on pre order
All new ps5 will be discless with the option to add a drive with a new side plate that adds the slot for it.
@@GearsAndTech Thanks for your feedback.
Huge eye roll... I had wreck fest on base ps4 and re downloaded it on ps5 version and the difference in graphics was mind blowing it took less than two seconds to see the graphical difference and feel the difference at 60 fps.
Try it on a ps4 pro. The difference is less noticeable
@@GearsAndTech mate your are talking out of your arse
@@GearsAndTech
That's why tho. It's always someone who had the +Base PS4+ and not the Pro model.
They don't know all the extra features we had.
Plus if they mainly play call of duty and they say omg 60fps feels amazing on the PS5.
They are dumb because COD is 60fps on ALL consoles. xD!
I don’t have a PlayStation at all I’m debating on waiting for PS5 Pro or going ahead and getting a slim or getting a PS4 new for 300 or PS4 Pro used from GameStop. It has been 2 years since this video. What would you recommend now?
I want to play old Twisted Metal games and
Im getting mixed info on whether the PS4 Pro and PS4 are able to be totally offline and PS5 not an option. Please clear waters for me.
I would really appreciate a response
If I didn't have a ps5 yet I would wait for pro and get that.
Look for a cheap used ps4 pro to hold you over
If you can hang on there will be used ps5 for sale when the Ps5 pro comes out.
I would rather have a used $300 Ps5 than a new $700 ps5 pro .
A new $300 ps4 is a insane plan .
Got my ps4 Pro on launch day its a good machine but compared to my ps5 it's way out dated. I've still got my pro but haven't used it much since since I got ps5. There's no contest
Since I only have a 55 inch 1080p Tv, my ps4 pro is still preferred to my ps5 as my ps5 reverts to base ps4 mode instead of supersampling my ps4 pro enhanced games to my 1080p Tv
can you do a video about the woodgrain led's from home depot for your wall?
I have a PS4 Pro system and I was skeptical at first on getting a PS5 or not. This video opened my eyes. I guess its better to wait for the next iteration of Sony console. Also I believe there might be a PS5 Pro in development with insane specs, which could be 4K @120 frames as Promised. I would love to get my hands on the latest DualSense controller and experience it. Great video.
That's why it's called a upgrade
Seriously get a ps5 this guy is insane.
@@minners71 I know PS5 is incredibly powerful, with a beautifully crafted UI, Audio, highspeed SSD, and DualSense Controller. Unfortunately games aren't made that can utilise the full potential of the console. Very few games like TLOU 1,2 or GTA V, Cyberpunk 2077 or CoD gets an upgrade. Whats erks me the most is the storage space u get on the Internal SSD and paying more money to buy an expandable SSD seems terrible for some people. You can call me insane, but i feel like PS5 seems like the base console ver. like PS4. When the PS5 Pro model comes out it'll definitely have fixes, patches and improvements. Not saying PS5 isn't great. By the time PS5 Pro comes out the base model will be more affordable and will be in stock also the prices of SSD should come down.
@@genisbibin8292 Had my ps5 for about a year now and storage has never been a problem. Ps5 games on internal ssd and ps4 ones on an external hdd.
@@minners71 That works perfect actually. I just wished we had more space on the internal SSD than getting an External drive and plugging it or taking it with u all the time. For some its an inconvenience and for other like you and even me it works just fine. I really love the latest PS5 with a futuristic design, really fast SSD n loading times, Dualsense is something! and the overall UI is something i need to experience for myself. I would love to get one but also thinking if i should wait for the Pro model or not.
I have a ps5 but I find myself using my ps4 (2014 model) more because I like the ui much more so I was thinking abt buying a pro
If you like the ps4 ui better then get a pro and put an ssd in it. You'll be happy
Things I have against the PS5 . 1. not enough storage you don't event get a Terabyte of space , you get a little over 800 gigabytes and the system takes away a nice chunk to run the system. 2. The remote control does not last long, you have to keep charging it every day at least twice. I bought another controller for this reason, once one remote control loses power I charge it and use the other. 3. The console is too big and heavy, not a big deal but if you place it vertically there's a chance you may drop it at some point and break it. I have put mine horizontal. 4. games take a lot space from your disk storage. 5. External storage only works for PS4 games you need to buy a very expensive SSD external storage drive to put all your PS5 games after your drive runs out of space.
#4: All next-gen games are coming in bigger and fatter. This is hardly the fault of Sony or the PS5.
#5: Meh, the internal drive can’t be swapped, but the minute you add an internal PCIe NVMe M.2 Gen4x4 SSD, its all gravy. The “it can only play PS4 games” thing only matters if you want to use a USB _corded_ secondary drive. Thats only practical if one wants to store media and transfer it to a соmputеr later for editing. In which case one should *first* buy a new internal drive to supplement the system drive. A 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 Gen4x4 @ ~7k R / ~6k W will only set one back about $200. A worthwhile investment for the system.
Let me help you .....
1. No supersampling for 1080p Tv owners
2. Save data locked behind ps plus
3. No themes / folders
4. Habitual stick drift for deliberately deficient dualsense controller
5. No option to sort games by genre
6. Game list ( bastardized version of folders) locked behind online) etc
@@lordspalse0062
1: 1080p is a downgrade from 4k. If anything, thats the fault of the individual game software, not a limitation of of the PS5.
2: Saved data is not locked behind PS+, only PS Cloud storage is. Your argument is you are too cheap to pay for a service offered, thats not a detriment of the system, but of your wallet. You can physically port your saves by simply using a USB drive.
3: I do miss themes, they helped personalize the interior of the system. That’s not a performance gripe, that’s an esthetics gripe.
4: All controllers develop stick drift. It’s inevitable with the use of L3 / R3. Acting as if this problem is exclusive to the PS system is disingenuous.
5: One can sort their games by genre by simply going to Game Library ⇨ Your Collection ⇨ Sort Filter ⇨ Sort By ⇨ Genre. One can even make Game Lists which work much the same as having ‘folders,’ though I would prefer it would show my Game Lists under Installed or under the main Game Bar.
6: Yes, this over-reliance on PSN network connectivity is to me a problem. I may want to clone a PS5 drive and install it in an alternate location. Games one buys digitally will be locked unless one connects, so internet becomes mandatory. I don’t like that.
@@Korruptor There's no justifiable excuse to not supersample on a system level in 2023. A company deliberately punishing certain gamers by locking them out of the 4k mode of every game must be said to be pathetic to say the least.
Your second respond is immature and outright senseless. That I don't subscribe to a service doesn't mean I'm cheap. You're unprecedentedly stupid as I actually have over a years worth of ps plus subscription but this does not make locking basic features behind a paywall the right thing to do. Note also that sorting games by genre is an online only option. You literally also can't save ps5 save data to a usb stick whether online or not. You're just a pathetic Sony damage controller general at this point. You're no different in mindset from your father Sony. You should change your name to 'corrupted' as clearly Sony has been a bad influence on your mental perception in life.
@@lordspalse0062
A company? Sony or the software developer? The software developers _individually_ select if their program will run on what set of specs when moving to a next-gen system. Thats not the fault of Sony. So blaming Sony is asinine.
If you’ve paid for your PS+ Cloud storage, what exactly is your complaint? You only need it _once_ when upgrading from a 4Pro to a 5. The argument is only ‘senseless’ because only a fool would be playing a game on both a 4Pro and 5 and wanting cross-gen progression, instead of sticking to just one, for whatever reason. Personally, I let PS+ and Xbox Gold deprecate all the time, because I find no value in paying for a service which I don’t utilize.
Cross-gen / platform progression or cloud storage is not a ‘basic feature.’ Only a few companies currently offer it, and it is only a feature because those companies host their own data, above and beyond the basic services of the Xbox Live and PSN. _Which requires an internet соnnесtion,_ *a primary complaint you had.*
Do explain how you propose to offer both cross-gen / platform progression absent the internet соnnесtion you’ve complained about.
Aww, yer butthurt. That’s funny.
Doesn't it come down to how old your display is? I have a 65inch Sony 4K television that is 8 years old and is still going strong and still puts out a beautiful image, so I guess it would make sense for me to get a PS4 Pro.
Yes. You won't benefit from ps5
In fact, I had to buy a new tv just to make my ps5 make sense
@@GearsAndTech And since the PS4 Pro has HDR capabilities and my television doesn't, I would still be ahead of the game if I ever do decide to replace my tv.
You know that even on the most power video cards out there on a pc like the rtx 3080 and 3090 still can't deliever 120hz while raytracing is enabled on most games unless you dial down the graphics to medium. So how can you even complain that a console can't provide that because ofcourse it won't unless its an old title game and even then your pushing it.
Exactly
It’s now a year later… I just ordered the PS5 on Amazon yesterday and I’m waiting for it to come tomorrow… Should I cancel the order or should I keep it?
It's a worth while upgrade for those with the cash
But it's just a ps4 pro ver 2.0
@@GearsAndTech Well I guess I’m good to go, seeing I only had the original PS4. Any thoughts on how it compares to the original PS4?
I've got an xbox series s and I love it but I've always wanted to play the PlayStation exclusives so I just bought a second hand pro for £160 off ebay
I prefer PlayStation personally, but i like to have as many different platforms as i can afford. Not into renting games with game pass or PS now, but Microsofts consols are still great as well.
That console is an emulation monster. It's hilariously wonderful in that way.
My 4pro is broken rn and I have no idea to fix it because it needs soldered since the battery came off the board
I sold my PS4 Pro when the PS5 was announced as having backward compatibility.
I still don't have a PS5, but a PS3, Nintendo Switch and Steam provide plenty of gaming in the meantime.
Hopefully we'll see a PS5 Pro, and then I'll probably buy. ;)
Won't be coming out for a long time man. The most powerful version of a console usually always comes out near the end of a console's life cycle. At that point might as well wait for the PS6.
I really should revisit titles on my PS3. Was a very good console to play on. The most recent thing I did to it was to install a 1TB SSD in it. Then of course I played a bit of Tales of Symphonia.
I HAVE BOTH AND I LOVE MY WHITE PS4 PRO THE COMBO IS GREAT TO HAVE ESPECIALLY IF YOU FIND A WHITE PRO FOR CHEAP! 100% agree. I love the white combo.
I keep them all , got PS1 , PS2 ,PS3 and PS4 pro ...ps5 doesn't outperform the PS4 pro enough imo ..at least not until the ps5 pro comes out
That's what I do exactly, selling your console is stupid. I don't own a ps1 and 2 because on a jailbroken ps4 9.00 you can play all ps1 and ps2 games. Most ps3 exclusives have been remastered on ps4 so owning ps4 to me is a must and will never sell it, instead, will buy ps5 pro in the future when it comes out and will keep them both and enjoy gaming on both platforms until they die. Dunno if it's just me
So please telle sir what can i buy A PS4 PRO ??? 1TB?☺️ NEW ?
One thing about me i'ma very patient person i don't jump on the first thing i see majority of people paid over a thousand dollars for an PS5 when just like you said the ps5 slim is coming and i bet probably the ps5 pro right behind that. My ps4 pro still running good and hitting 60fps i feel sorry for all the people who paid double and triple for a system that's not worth it 😂 y'all could of got a PC for that price.
You're talking about money saving and yet you just wasted more money on a PS4 pro telling people to save money and to not buy a PS5 just a PS4 pro when you already had a PS5 you're very inconsiderate and that was kind of a slap you in the face to everyone else who's not able to get a PS5
No, don't take it that way. I'm telling everyone to not worry about ps5. Be happy with ps4. Or upgrade to a pro and save you're money
Youre not missing anything.
If I didn't need the ps5 to keep making videos I would probably sell it.
No flexing here
@@GearsAndTech so what about games that are dedicated to ps5 or features. You say you are not missing anything but you are missing out on ray tracing, 120hz on cod(you said you play that, it just updated) & other games. I see where you are coming from but I do not agree with you and think your wrong tbh
I have cold war on Ps5 running right beside my wife's cold war on ps4 pro
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There is very little difference in visuals on the two setups. Even though I have Ray tracing turned on.
In fact, my game starts stuttering down to 15 fps for about 5 seconds at a time frequently and hers has no stutter at all.
I don't have a cooling issue. And I'm hard wired in with gigabit internet. So, I think it's just the gpu chugging through some code that isn't optimized right. Fortunately it doesn't crash. But hers never has a problem
@@GearsAndTech wow, I've got ps5 and play cold war almost everyday. Never had stutter on my ps5. You have an issue for sure mate...15 fps. That isn't normal, figured you would book that as a tech guy. I had an original ps4 so I see a huge difference in 4k. Not sure why you don't but happy gaming and get a proper working ps5 when up can
I only notice it when playing local multiplayer (true lan style). So maybe it's an issue with that. Not the many guys use it like this, so texting would be difficult
In any case. I will try it with Ray tracing off next time and see what happens
Thanks for the video. I am a crypto trader so I have no problems with buying ps5 now or later but I wanna buy a ps4 pro and install many games on it and external hard drive(because I missed tons of games) and will buy ps5 pro in the future when it comes out without selling my ps4 pro because I will still play on my ps4 the same way I will play on the new ps5 pro of the future. I believe that I will keep both consoles and game on both like for ever till they die but won't sell. Is there something wrong with that?
Crazy that there was actually a price increase 😂