@@wicketmels perhaps you do lots of highway? Or climate difference? But still impressively low compared to other EV's! Turning off the A/C for non-extreme temperature differences between outside and inside helps a lot! The heat-pump can handle it.
Just drove 320kms in our 2021 sr+ and used 70% battery. Which would be 450ish kms of theoretical range. It was mostly at 100km per hour. If we check battery range it only estimates 417kms. Must have been good weather or something.
Looking at the figures at the end the Highland's usage was actually 16.2kWh, which makes it just over 7% more efficient than the 2022 version, which is impressive given that the powertrain is the same. That's 7% further on a charge, 7% faster charging, 7% cheaper to run and probably fewer charging cycles on the battery over time, so it should degrade more slowly. Nothing absolutely game changing, but a really nice to have advantage. Good stuff from Tesla.
7% further on a charge if you drive in the same circumstances as in this test. It also won't be 7% cheaper to run because of the total cost of ownership.
It's 16.6 kWh for highland versus 17.4 kWh for 2021+ Model 3 in terms of energy usage efficiency. No idea where you got 16.2 kWh from. Maybe, the air? LMFAO SMH The difference is about 5%. Wasn't there about 5% battery degradation in the 2021+ Model 3? Battery degradation affects the battery, period, regardless of SoC. So, it doesn't matter if you drive from 80% down to 20% or from 100% down to 20%, your battery is 5% less efficient in terms of energy usage. Maybe, it's time to take remedial math class? 😆🤣
@@KP-xi4bj look at the numbers in the final slide. Highland had 49.9kWh before and 33.7 after, hence 16.2kWh. The producer of the video has acknowleged elsewhere in the comments that they made an error with the usage figure and that the actual number is 16.2 On top of that, degredation is irrelevant to actual energy used. It affects the energy available but not usage. You should think before you post, will help to avoid making yourself look stupid
@@patmanrick"Battery degradation refers to the gradual decline in the ability of a battery to store and deliver energy. This inevitable process can result in reduced energy capacity, range, power, and *overall efficiency* of your device or vehicle." - Exro Technologies Inc. Battery degradation is irrelevant? No. It's very relevant. You should take your own advice: " think before you post, will help to avoid making yourself look stupid".
Well done. Real world driving are the tests I find most useful. I do love my ‘21 SR+, 39,000 miles on it, and like you said such a fun car to drive! On my cross country trip of 5,500 miles, the car was a champ! I’m eager to get in the Highlander to see what’s new for myself, but your videos are great in the meantime.
Should also had included the reported Wh / km that each car reported for the 100 km drive, battery % doesn't tell much since the 2019 model has different battery capacity and therefor will go though a higher % of it's battery than the others to spend the same Wh.
Thanks for the video, this definitely showcases the improvements on the new Model 3. I will be buying a Model 3 Long Range soon, I´m egaer to see what range and efficiency this car will do in my hands, both in good and bad conditions (read: relaxed driving in sunny summer vs daily commute in cold winter). Based on my EV exoerience so far I should be able to get that WLTP range or at least come close to it in sunny summer conditions. Overall though... this new Model 3 is a real winner. You get a lot of car for your money here. Cheers!
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets Well, it´ll be a few weeks before I can welcome my new car. I´m currently owning a 2021 Opel Corsa (electric) which was advertised with 337 kilometers range and 16,7 kwh consumption, both WLTP of course. 50kw battery. In my 2 years with this car I got a good feeling for its highs and lows, with sunny summertime range for a full battery between 350 - 380 kilometers and cold winter drives with about 170 - 180 kilometers of range for a full charge. Since the Model 3 LR has a bigger battery and, despite being way more powerful and heavier, is more efficient I expect to produce similar results, relatively speaking. Going for the 18 inch wheels for increased efficiency - I like the challenge of driving such cars economically while enjoying the instant torque and power of the electric engine whenever I need a speed burst.
I own the 2022 Tesla Model 3 RWD and it has a 63.3 KW LFP battery. It has retained 95% - 96% of its original battery capacity. If I drive it near the speed limit conservatively, I can get around 250 miles of range, provided it is not too hot or too cold. Especially when it is too hot, the heat pump has to work very hard to cool the battery. I live in AZ, and right now, temperatures in the afternoon the temperature range is 100 -107 degrees F. If the car is out in the sun, it will lose approximately 30% of its range, cooling the battery. But I would guess that that much heat would affect all EVs. The good thing about the Tesla is that the heat pump does cool the battery in very hot weather. The Highland is no doubt superior to the 2022 Model 3, but I was able to get this 2022 Model 3 used for $18,900.00. So the Highland would have cost me $24,000 more when you include tax, license and insurance. I just didn't think that the Highland would be $24,000 better than the 2022 model. My 2022 Model 3 came with matrix headlights (the same as the Highland), the FSD computer (the same as the highland) and the LFP battery (the same as the Highland. Note that with combined highway and city driving, if I stay within 10 mph of the speed limit, I get close to 4 miles/KW in efficiency. If I drive conservatively (at the speed limit) in town and it is not too hot or cold, I can get near 5 miles/KW. If I don't drive conservatively, I usually get around 225 miles per charge.
Great video guys. Looks like the Highland is almost 5% more efficient than the 2022 Model 3. That is actually a decent improvement. I am curious to see what the improvement is for the Long Range Model 3 and what it is with the 19” wheels.
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets5% or 25 extra km is nothing in everyday driving. Now, if it was 10% or extra 50 km then that would make a difference. It would be the difference between driving to work and back on one charge and driving to work and charging at work.
returned my 2021 facelift Model 3 LR a few months ago for a Model Y Perf.. it had don 77.000km and had a average consumption over that period of 156watt/km.. it drives in Danish Climate, so flat, but cold in winter and "bland" in summer. it still did the 200km to our summerhouse at 120watt/km when tried that before returning it (long trip 85-90km/h all way) best economy is too and from work where it in summer was between 98-118watt/km and winter where it was closer to 130watt/km) had no problems getting 500km on a "fill" on that. the Y is s COMPLETELY different story, damn that is "hungry".. it even did well on holidays through europe, 156watt/km with 120 on the autobahn and also mountains, with a 5k km drive. however it was expensive on the climate, since it was 2 VERY hot years it ran in... 36-40degrees heat.
I am glad I went for a 12/2021 model 3 SR+ LFP. 5-7% in real world makes no difference for me, that’s not enough to get you between superchargers and when charging at home you don’t know the difference. Look forward to changing in 5 years for a newer or different EV.
Awesome video! Love the drone footage of your beautiful country! I wonder how much the new Hankook ion tires are helping with the lower sound. Because I slapped the winter version on my 2021 M3 and it’s super silent now!
Overall a good refresh, and fine tuning. New lower rolling resistance tires for sure helped the efficiency a bit. Surprised there wasn’t more of an overall increase in range. 🤔 Tesla doesn’t want to roll out all the tricks at once - these do not have the newer CATL battery with big promised energy density.
I'm loving the quality of the videos! Also, do you guys have a rough idea when you'll be offering the stalks? I personally prefer not having the gear selector but the turning signal buttons situation is quite crappy ~20% of the time
Great test, thank you for this and your figures look about right, but also note tyres make a big difference to range also, the better range on the highland could be due to the fact it has newer tyres, and I believe the Hankook tyres it comes with have been engineered to give better mileage.
On our test model 3 2019 performance we also have the Joe mode on, but you can still hear the signals. On this particular car I could not hear the sound at all. Maybe it is something going on with this exact vehicle
I was also thinking Joe Mode. Otherwise, sounds like a software glitch and you can reboot the MCU (hold down left and right steering wheel buttons for 10 seconds)
Thanks for the video. I am particularly interested in the noise insulation between these cars. As you propably know, 2022 model 3s sold in Europe were made in China, and they were already better built and quieter than the 2019 model 3 made in the US. What would you rate the road noise insulation between the three cars, assuming the Highland was 10/10? For example, 8/10 for the 2022 and 5/10 for the 2019?
If we say that the highland is 10/10, the 2022 model is 8/10 and the 2019 is 4/10. At least in my option , but many will disagree, even if they have not driven all cars back to back
Very interesting video, but it seems that the Highland is delivered with E-Primacy tyres, whereas the old one was delivered with Pilot Sport 4. E-Primacy could explain a part of the efficiency of the Highland. Tesla claims that the efficiency of Highland is better, which is right, but it may be partly to the detriment of grip. What do you think ? Did you test both with exactly the same tyres ?
You might be correct. Tesla does claims that the tires are the ones providing the extra range. We are about to change ours to the winter tires, which will not be e-primacy ones, so we will see if there will be a huge difference if any.
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_GadgetsThank you for your answer. In fact, this test could be very interesting. But I was just thinking that if the obtained gain on efficiency is mostly due to the tyres, Tesla is "cheating" in some ways, because it is obviously possible to equip an old Model 3 with the E-Primacy tyres. The comparison would be more fair with equivalent tyres.
You're over exaggerating the differences in sound isolation. Independent tests were done between the 2019, 2020+, and highland, and the there is a difference but it's not massive.
Trust me, when you can sit in all 3 cars back to back , you will experience a massive difference. Even the owners of the 2019 and the 2022 has confirmed it , and they drive their cars every day
@@69memnon69 oh no. I understand it’s exponential. Subjective experiences of other reviewers over the years have basically indicated notable but not major.
Well, if you look inside the canbus, you can see that the usable capacity is 60.4 on both vehicles. We even did a test that after you reach 0% on the new highland, you still have 2.7kwh left in the tank, and it is the same for the 2022 model
It's not fair to compare Model 3 2022 fitted with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and Model 3 2024 fitted with Michelin e.Primacy. On their website, Michelin claim their e.Primacy allow a 7% increase in range.
Are there enough chargers in Bulgaria? I want to drive from Holland to Turkije next 4/5 years. With the Highland. I hope i can do that with 8-10 stops max and 450 km's by driving 110-130 km speed. What do you think? Thank you for the video en your reaction😁🍀😁
I am a new sexy button owner. They are great so far, but i cannot get auto popping doors to work. I enabled that feature, but nothing happens when I walk up. Am I doing something wrong?
Thank you for getting our products! Can you share with us what model do you own and which year and month it was built. Also, do you use your phone that is connected to the Commander as a phone key with your Tesla ?
Can you tell me please; is it possible to drive 450-480 km's 100% battery in summer? When i drive 110-130? In 2024 i want lease a SR3, costs 43K and a long range is 51K. But if the range for SR is 450 km in summer, then i like it and then is the €8k more for long range 2 much money😁😁
450 driving how fast, airco on? 18 or 19” tires? outside temp? only highway or combined? what degradation of battery? what tires? 2024 Highland model or older? what is the WLTP of your exact car?
Hi Fatih. I believe it (450-480km) would be just on the edge if you drive at 110km/h in summer with ac on, outdoor temperature around 25-30, and definitely with 18" tyres. With 19", decrease the range around almost 10%. With a speed of 130km/h, decrease that mileage further around 20%, so absolutely no way. I have been investigating the same topic, with same intentions as yours ;) I live in DE instead of NL though. Let us inform each other on the result, whoever buys first the SR highland :)
@@LearningFastComparing apples to apples here. Comparing theroretical range using actual energy usage and battery size when new with no battery degradation. The highland with its extra 15 km of range is insignificant in everyday driving.
@@KP-xi4bjit's 25km, the Highland was 7.3% more efficient. So that's 7% further on a charge but also 7% faster charging and 7% cheaper to run. None of those things is a game changer but that's actually quite a significant difference over time. Not sure if you're a sports fan, but it would be like every football/soccer match being 96.5 minutes rather than 90. A lot can happen in that extra 6 minutes!
@@patmanrick Not very good in math, are you? 2021 Model 3 uses 17.4 kWh per 100 and the Highland uses 16.6 kWh per 100 km. The difference is 4.8% Did you pull 7.3% out of the air? LMFAO SMH Both 2021 Model 3 and Highland use the same 60.5 kWh battery. 2021 Model 3 uses 17.4 kWh for 100 km compared to the Highland's 16.6 kWh for the same 100 km. Based on these rates, 2021 Model 3's estimated range is about 348 km compared to the Highland's estimated range of about 364 km for the same 60.5 kWh battery. The difference is about 16 km. In every day driving, 16 km is nothing.
Great video! Please lower the music volume, it’s too loud like TV commercials, inconsistent with your voice. That make your listener to have to keep turning down their volume in between listening to your commentaries. Please.
When we started it was about 19 Celsius, but the city we went to was around 10. We started driving around 4 and finished around 5:30 (due to stops , swapping the cars and the cameras)
So the standard range is expected to have a full range of only 220miles brand new before any degradation and in moderate weather? Did I miss something?
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_GadgetsBut wait, didn't Tesla or you advertised it as having 500 km of range for the Model 3 highland? I want my money back! False advertising! LOL
@@KP-xi4bj Don't mix up highway range and WLTP-Range. WLTP is a mix of highway, city and standard roads. In summer I get 12,3 kWh/100 Km driving only few highway. So the 491 Km is not far away. Including winter the average is 13,8 kWh/100 Km.
Please consider to stop calculating Degradation from the Full Pack When New value. This not the starting capacity for most battery packs. For each battery we know the actually average capacity when new and those values should be used. FPWN is nothing more than an identifier for the battery pack, nothing more.
For a car that’s already the most efficient in the world, that is even more efficient with the new highland just makes it that much better! I swear the pressure these Tesla are putting on the rest of the market is insane! It just goes to show you when you focus on quality instead of quantity, the market response favorably towards that company! Numbers don’t lie and the fact that all Tesla are now 40% safer than any other vehicle on the planet according to the NHTSA and getting better with each update, makes Tesla vehicles a much better consumer option than anything else! They are still fun vehicles with all the features and fast as shit! Looking forward to what Tesla does next, they are in a league of their own!
The other brands catched up fast on efficiency (for example BMW i4) but Tesla still misses big time on traditional features. Tesla can not even auto park which every other low budget car can do since many years. Tesla will get real pressure from the Chinese cars.
I am definitely not an expert and we say this in every video. We are guys that enjoy Tesla and make cool things for it, but if you want to watch a more in depth review with lots of facts, go to Out Of Spec channel. They are amazing 😊
Not sure if you get the notification, but I'll try with a question on this interesting topic. What's your charging routine? Do you charge to 80% to increase battery life? Do you often discharge the battery deeply (state
@andrzejz4218 My car has now 21% degradation after 257000 km. My charging habbit is to charge to 90% and if I have a longish drive I even charge to a higher state of charge (100%) right before I leave. Sometimes I forget to put the limit back to 90% and that is not good for the battery because then it is on 100% for a long time. I also do go as low as 1% to get to my destination. Charging is then fast for the first 40-45% at a Supercharger or when I go home I can charge there. Would I buy this car again? No, not with this battery size because basicly I need more range for my daily driving so I think I've asked too much from the battery. I do still like the car so I will keep it but my wife is going to be using it and I am looking for a new one. Don't know yet which one but I think it is going to be a Tesla again. Maybe model Y LR RWD or model 3 LR RWD.
@@joepurple009 Thanks a lot for the extra details! The degradation @257000km seems a bit high comparing to the previous data point, but 79% remaining capacity is still pretty usable. You seem to be using the car in a reasonable way so either you didn't win the "battery lottery" or it's just the way it should be. Glad that the car is still enjoyable, as this is the ultimate testimony and gives more confidence for the ICE crowd to try this new EV thingie out without worring too much.
Still major deficits with the Model 3 face lift. Same lfp battery, same motor, same suspension geometry. Key features missing, park sensors, 360 camera view which means no from camera. Missing turn stalks. Also, having to use the screen to maneuver in tight is a nightmare. BYD seal is a cheaper option and has a ton more features. BYD still needs iron out a couple of items but one gets a lot more car than Tesla offers with facelift Model 3.
Slower charging (not true), yearly service costs?, worse range (not true), Chinese brand (lol) and the Tesla being tested is made in China😂 and same can be said about American brands 😂…like I said, BYD need to still iron out some issues but the production cars will be a lot better. Tesla vision for parking doesn’t work and wishing all who buy this car an awesome time side parking. It’s a nightmare 😂
Well, the WLFP stats its 513km, but the real range is less. We have tested it 2 times from 100% SOC to 0% and the best we got was 410km. But yeah, most people will get between 350 and 400 depending on the reads they drive and the weather.
Yes, but you could say this is pretty much an “highway range test”. The cars were driving at constant decent speeds, without slowing down very often, and therefore without recharging. The claimed 500+km range is most likely not easy to achieve, but if you are driving in the city and maybe on slopes, you can for sure get closer to that number. As a reference: in a Model 3 Performance i once did a 200km mountain trip, 100km one way, with a huge constant uphill slope. Then 100km back, obviously mostly downhill. Turned out that out of the 200km of road, i consumed exactly 213km of range. That proves that the situation you’re driving in, really matters.
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgetsamazing regardless as my 2020 M3P only gets about 420km real world. My 2021 SR+ (LFP) would get 320 real world kms also.. its same battery same range, the new shape doesn’t help. Its just more sales BS as proven here
2 years battery degradation but at what mileage ? 2 Yerars for average driver in E.U should be 40k km and at that mileage 4,5% is quite bad , but at mileage 100k km 4,5% is a normal degradation .
I have 7% degredation on an LFP after 24000 km under 2 years old and super charged about 20 times. Never kept at 100% for long times mostly kept around 70% SOC when not in use.
To be more accurate, wouldn't you have to compare the efficiency of a brand new '19 and '22 with the new '23? For all we know, the efficiency of a '23 will drop in 5 years.
Well, with Tesla , it is impossible to find a brand new car from 2019 or 2022. They make the cars per orders, not per forecasts (at least here in Europe )
All numbers are false 😢 - 2019 : 17,6kwh of 52,4 nominal new is 33,5% not 39% - 2022 : 17,4kwh of 60,5 nominal new is 28,7% not 31% - 2024 : 16,6kwh of 60,5 nominal new is 27,4% not 28%
At around 1:00 he speaks about xx kW (kilo Watts) batteries. But he means kWh (kilo Watt hours) - something totally different. How to trust the hole video, if right in the beginning such horrible mistakes are made?
100km -30% battery on new model. Means 350km with fully charged battery and cruising speed at 90kmh on motorway. What a BS. If drive it 140kmh++ maximum range will be 250-300km. LMAO. 1 hour at charging station with high power Tesla charger is just stupid. 1$ per hour its 60$ for fully charged battery after driving 300km. WTF?! My 530d BMW can drive 850-900km and I'll pay same price for diesel, lol.
Our 2022 Model 3 SR+ has an all-year average of 13.7 kWh/100km so we manage to drive over 400km's with it on a single charge.
Mine only 15.2kwh/100km. You must drive like an elderly 😂
@@wicketmels perhaps you do lots of highway? Or climate difference? But still impressively low compared to other EV's! Turning off the A/C for non-extreme temperature differences between outside and inside helps a lot! The heat-pump can handle it.
Just drove 320kms in our 2021 sr+ and used 70% battery. Which would be 450ish kms of theoretical range. It was mostly at 100km per hour. If we check battery range it only estimates 417kms. Must have been good weather or something.
@@The123Orion123 Nice! The efficiency of Tesla is real crazy
Exactly!I do around 14 kwh/100 km
Looking at the figures at the end the Highland's usage was actually 16.2kWh, which makes it just over 7% more efficient than the 2022 version, which is impressive given that the powertrain is the same.
That's 7% further on a charge, 7% faster charging, 7% cheaper to run and probably fewer charging cycles on the battery over time, so it should degrade more slowly.
Nothing absolutely game changing, but a really nice to have advantage. Good stuff from Tesla.
7% further on a charge if you drive in the same circumstances as in this test. It also won't be 7% cheaper to run because of the total cost of ownership.
@@Elaba_ 7% cheaper to charge.
It's 16.6 kWh for highland versus 17.4 kWh for 2021+ Model 3 in terms of energy usage efficiency. No idea where you got 16.2 kWh from. Maybe, the air? LMFAO SMH The difference is about 5%. Wasn't there about 5% battery degradation in the 2021+ Model 3? Battery degradation affects the battery, period, regardless of SoC. So, it doesn't matter if you drive from 80% down to 20% or from 100% down to 20%, your battery is 5% less efficient in terms of energy usage. Maybe, it's time to take remedial math class? 😆🤣
@@KP-xi4bj look at the numbers in the final slide. Highland had 49.9kWh before and 33.7 after, hence 16.2kWh. The producer of the video has acknowleged elsewhere in the comments that they made an error with the usage figure and that the actual number is 16.2
On top of that, degredation is irrelevant to actual energy used. It affects the energy available but not usage.
You should think before you post, will help to avoid making yourself look stupid
@@patmanrick"Battery degradation refers to the gradual decline in the ability of a battery to store and deliver energy. This inevitable process can result in reduced energy capacity, range, power, and *overall efficiency* of your device or vehicle." - Exro Technologies Inc.
Battery degradation is irrelevant? No. It's very relevant.
You should take your own advice: " think before you post, will help to avoid making yourself look stupid".
Well done. Real world driving are the tests I find most useful.
I do love my ‘21 SR+, 39,000 miles on it, and like you said such a fun car to drive! On my cross country trip of 5,500 miles, the car was a champ!
I’m eager to get in the Highlander to see what’s new for myself, but your videos are great in the meantime.
Thank you for your amazing feedback! We just did a 1.3k mile round trip, but your 5k puts us to shame 😊
Should also had included the reported Wh / km that each car reported for the 100 km drive, battery % doesn't tell much since the 2019 model has different battery capacity and therefor will go though a higher % of it's battery than the others to spend the same Wh.
They gave the kWh usage at the end
Thanks for the video, this definitely showcases the improvements on the new Model 3. I will be buying a Model 3 Long Range soon, I´m egaer to see what range and efficiency this car will do in my hands, both in good and bad conditions (read: relaxed driving in sunny summer vs daily commute in cold winter).
Based on my EV exoerience so far I should be able to get that WLTP range or at least come close to it in sunny summer conditions.
Overall though... this new Model 3 is a real winner. You get a lot of car for your money here. Cheers!
We can’t wait for you to share what range you will get with the LR. People would love to know 😊
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets Well, it´ll be a few weeks before I can welcome my new car.
I´m currently owning a 2021 Opel Corsa (electric) which was advertised with 337 kilometers range and 16,7 kwh consumption, both WLTP of course. 50kw battery.
In my 2 years with this car I got a good feeling for its highs and lows, with sunny summertime range for a full battery between 350 - 380 kilometers and cold winter drives with about 170 - 180 kilometers of range for a full charge.
Since the Model 3 LR has a bigger battery and, despite being way more powerful and heavier, is more efficient I expect to produce similar results, relatively speaking. Going for the 18 inch wheels for increased efficiency - I like the challenge of driving such cars economically while enjoying the instant torque and power of the electric engine whenever I need a speed burst.
You might want to consider the Performance model and swap the wheels to a 18", if you are living in the US!
I own the 2022 Tesla Model 3 RWD and it has a 63.3 KW LFP battery. It has retained 95% - 96% of its original battery capacity. If I drive it near the speed limit conservatively, I can get around 250 miles of range, provided it is not too hot or too cold. Especially when it is too hot, the heat pump has to work very hard to cool the battery. I live in AZ, and right now, temperatures in the afternoon the temperature range is 100 -107 degrees F. If the car is out in the sun, it will lose approximately 30% of its range, cooling the battery. But I would guess that that much heat would affect all EVs. The good thing about the Tesla is that the heat pump does cool the battery in very hot weather.
The Highland is no doubt superior to the 2022 Model 3, but I was able to get this 2022 Model 3 used for $18,900.00. So the Highland would have cost me $24,000 more when you include tax, license and insurance. I just didn't think that the Highland would be $24,000 better than the 2022 model.
My 2022 Model 3 came with matrix headlights (the same as the Highland), the FSD computer (the same as the highland) and the LFP battery (the same as the Highland.
Note that with combined highway and city driving, if I stay within 10 mph of the speed limit, I get close to 4 miles/KW in efficiency. If I drive conservatively (at the speed limit) in town and it is not too hot or cold, I can get near 5 miles/KW. If I don't drive conservatively, I usually get around 225 miles per charge.
Great video guys. Looks like the Highland is almost 5% more efficient than the 2022 Model 3. That is actually a decent improvement. I am curious to see what the improvement is for the Long Range Model 3 and what it is with the 19” wheels.
Thank you! Many people will be like "5%? That nothing?", but they don't get it that it is the same battery, just the car is more efficient.
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets5% or 25 extra km is nothing in everyday driving. Now, if it was 10% or extra 50 km then that would make a difference. It would be the difference between driving to work and back on one charge and driving to work and charging at work.
Depends how far your work is. I have to drive 20 km to work 😂 Which is far by my standard of commuting.@@KP-xi4bj
10% is nothing compared to 20%.
@@davegenet Pfffff 20% is nothing compared to 30%
Thank you guys that's what i was waiting for
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returned my 2021 facelift Model 3 LR a few months ago for a Model Y Perf.. it had don 77.000km and had a average consumption over that period of 156watt/km.. it drives in Danish Climate, so flat, but cold in winter and "bland" in summer. it still did the 200km to our summerhouse at 120watt/km when tried that before returning it (long trip 85-90km/h all way) best economy is too and from work where it in summer was between 98-118watt/km and winter where it was closer to 130watt/km) had no problems getting 500km on a "fill" on that. the Y is s COMPLETELY different story, damn that is "hungry".. it even did well on holidays through europe, 156watt/km with 120 on the autobahn and also mountains, with a 5k km drive. however it was expensive on the climate, since it was 2 VERY hot years it ran in... 36-40degrees heat.
What a detailed feedback! Thank you :)
Thank you for that test! Waiting for more :)
I am glad I went for a 12/2021 model 3 SR+ LFP.
5-7% in real world makes no difference for me, that’s not enough to get you between superchargers and when charging at home you don’t know the difference.
Look forward to changing in 5 years for a newer or different EV.
Awesome video! Love the drone footage of your beautiful country!
I wonder how much the new Hankook ion tires are helping with the lower sound. Because I slapped the winter version on my 2021 M3 and it’s super silent now!
That’s an interesting question all 3 cars were on Michelin tires
You also had 2 extra people in the car in the Highland Model 3, that extra weight makes a difference.
You are not wrong. :)
Very good video with detailed information on energy efficiency!
Loved the mountain landscapes!! Is that in Bulgaria?
It is Bulgaria. It definitely looks better from above 😜
Overall a good refresh, and fine tuning. New lower rolling resistance tires for sure helped the efficiency a bit. Surprised there wasn’t more of an overall increase in range. 🤔 Tesla doesn’t want to roll out all the tricks at once - these do not have the newer CATL battery with big promised energy density.
The performance it already great , but we cant wait to see how it will be on the LR model :)
You should swap the highland tires to the old model 3 to really see the actual noise and efficiency differences.
I'm loving the quality of the videos! Also, do you guys have a rough idea when you'll be offering the stalks? I personally prefer not having the gear selector but the turning signal buttons situation is quite crappy ~20% of the time
Thank you for the feedback! We aim to have the stalks ready early 2024. We will open a pre order for it sometimes next month or January. :)
Great test, thank you for this and your figures look about right, but also note tyres make a big difference to range also, the better range on the highland could be due to the fact it has newer tyres, and I believe the Hankook tyres it comes with have been engineered to give better mileage.
You are absolutely right. Tires matter a lot. All 3 vehicles had the Michelin tires , but yeah- some were newer than others 🙂
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets the e-primacy have a better efficiency than Pilot Sport
360 or even 350 km. For standard range is one step ahead from previous model 3s
Agree 😊
I have seen at several places of the video the new model leading the column, so the other cars have a little bit wind shadow advantage.
Always the car that was driven by me was in the front. The shots are like this because there are mixed , since we only had 1 camera person 😊
I have a 23 s plaid with the 19’s and i get about the same range as a long range model 3 at 120kmh
Awesome video guys. Great shots!!
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Recent update made Joe mode quieter.. Maybe that's why signal barely could be heard
On our test model 3 2019 performance we also have the Joe mode on, but you can still hear the signals. On this particular car I could not hear the sound at all. Maybe it is something going on with this exact vehicle
I was also thinking Joe Mode. Otherwise, sounds like a software glitch and you can reboot the MCU (hold down left and right steering wheel buttons for 10 seconds)
Did all three start with the same battery temperature?
Piękny test, najlepszy jaki do tej pory widziałem!
bez kitu, czekam na indentyczny z LR :D
Thanks for the video. I am particularly interested in the noise insulation between these cars. As you propably know, 2022 model 3s sold in Europe were made in China, and they were already better built and quieter than the 2019 model 3 made in the US. What would you rate the road noise insulation between the three cars, assuming the Highland was 10/10? For example, 8/10 for the 2022 and 5/10 for the 2019?
If we say that the highland is 10/10, the 2022 model is 8/10 and the 2019 is 4/10. At least in my option , but many will disagree, even if they have not driven all cars back to back
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets Thanks, I appreciate your assessment.
Great and useful vidéo, thank you guys !
got those values in kwh/mile?
Could you restart the test with the e-primacy of the model 3 2024 on the model 3 2022 and the pilot sport of the model 3 2022 on the model 3 2024 ?
Thank you
The 2019 had not soundproof Windows in the front, that came with the 2021 Model and now Highland has all Windows Doubke Layerd like Model Y
That is what I thought but I was not sure. Thank you for the info , it makes a lot of sense
Very interesting video, but it seems that the Highland is delivered with E-Primacy tyres, whereas the old one was delivered with Pilot Sport 4.
E-Primacy could explain a part of the efficiency of the Highland. Tesla claims that the efficiency of Highland is better, which is right, but it may be partly to the detriment of grip.
What do you think ? Did you test both with exactly the same tyres ?
You might be correct. Tesla does claims that the tires are the ones providing the extra range. We are about to change ours to the winter tires, which will not be e-primacy ones, so we will see if there will be a huge difference if any.
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_GadgetsThank you for your answer. In fact, this test could be very interesting.
But I was just thinking that if the obtained gain on efficiency is mostly due to the tyres, Tesla is "cheating" in some ways, because it is obviously possible to equip an old Model 3 with the E-Primacy tyres. The comparison would be more fair with equivalent tyres.
how can that 2019 one use almost 40% for 100km?? seems a lot?
You're over exaggerating the differences in sound isolation. Independent tests were done between the 2019, 2020+, and highland, and the there is a difference but it's not massive.
Trust me, when you can sit in all 3 cars back to back , you will experience a massive difference. Even the owners of the 2019 and the 2022 has confirmed it , and they drive their cars every day
Maybe you’re misunderstanding that the decibel scale is logarithmic?
@@69memnon69 oh no. I understand it’s exponential. Subjective experiences of other reviewers over the years have basically indicated notable but not major.
Love your Tesla reviews! One of my favourite ones.
Could you please do a video short on how to get your battery degradation via the commander? Great video, nice to put a face to the emails Anton. 👍
2024 are battery usable capacity 60.4 kwh vs 57.7kwh 2022?
Well, if you look inside the canbus, you can see that the usable capacity is 60.4 on both vehicles. We even did a test that after you reach 0% on the new highland, you still have 2.7kwh left in the tank, and it is the same for the 2022 model
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets so 60.5 total and 60.4 usable? No buffer?
It's not fair to compare Model 3 2022 fitted with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and Model 3 2024 fitted with Michelin e.Primacy.
On their website, Michelin claim their e.Primacy allow a 7% increase in range.
Are there enough chargers in Bulgaria? I want to drive from Holland to Turkije next 4/5 years.
With the Highland. I hope i can do that with 8-10 stops max and 450 km's by driving 110-130 km speed. What do you think?
Thank you for the video en your reaction😁🍀😁
Please make a consumption test model 3 2023 at 100km/h and 120km/h but with 4 people on board .
I am a new sexy button owner. They are great so far, but i cannot get auto popping doors to work. I enabled that feature, but nothing happens when I walk up. Am I doing something wrong?
Have you tried it with the app open? What car and model year do you have?
Thank you for getting our products! Can you share with us what model do you own and which year and month it was built. Also, do you use your phone that is connected to the Commander as a phone key with your Tesla ?
Can you tell me please; is it possible to drive 450-480 km's 100% battery in summer? When i drive 110-130?
In 2024 i want lease a SR3, costs 43K and a long range is 51K.
But if the range for SR is 450 km in summer, then i like it and then is the €8k more for long range 2 much money😁😁
No way not even close. I am lucky to get 450 at this speed with a LR
450 driving how fast, airco on? 18 or 19” tires? outside temp? only highway or combined? what degradation of battery? what tires? 2024 Highland model or older? what is the WLTP of your exact car?
Hi Fatih.
I believe it (450-480km) would be just on the edge if you drive at 110km/h in summer with ac on, outdoor temperature around 25-30, and definitely with 18" tyres. With 19", decrease the range around almost 10%. With a speed of 130km/h, decrease that mileage further around 20%, so absolutely no way. I have been investigating the same topic, with same intentions as yours ;) I live in DE instead of NL though. Let us inform each other on the result, whoever buys first the SR highland :)
did u use the same tires?
Yes. They were with 18’’ Michelin stock tires
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_GadgetsIt looks like only the Model 3 2024 is fitted with the low rolling resistance tires Michelin e.Primacy.
Nice comparison between the same models new and old.
Thank you very much 😊
Nice video guys, thank you!
Thank you for your feedback ❤
It’s alectrifying
60/17,4=345km expected range for the 2022, not 320km. So difference with Highland is only 15km instead of 40km? Good to know.
Yeah. I guess my final calculation was a bit off. Sorry if it is 🙂
The 2022 had degradation so they were reporting what the actual numbers were for that specific car.
@@LearningFastComparing apples to apples here. Comparing theroretical range using actual energy usage and battery size when new with no battery degradation. The highland with its extra 15 km of range is insignificant in everyday driving.
@@KP-xi4bjit's 25km, the Highland was 7.3% more efficient. So that's 7% further on a charge but also 7% faster charging and 7% cheaper to run. None of those things is a game changer but that's actually quite a significant difference over time. Not sure if you're a sports fan, but it would be like every football/soccer match being 96.5 minutes rather than 90. A lot can happen in that extra 6 minutes!
@@patmanrick Not very good in math, are you? 2021 Model 3 uses 17.4 kWh per 100 and the Highland uses 16.6 kWh per 100 km. The difference is 4.8% Did you pull 7.3% out of the air? LMFAO SMH Both 2021 Model 3 and Highland use the same 60.5 kWh battery. 2021 Model 3 uses 17.4 kWh for 100 km compared to the Highland's 16.6 kWh for the same 100 km. Based on these rates, 2021 Model 3's estimated range is about 348 km compared to the Highland's estimated range of about 364 km for the same 60.5 kWh battery. The difference is about 16 km. In every day driving, 16 km is nothing.
Great video! Please lower the music volume, it’s too loud like TV commercials, inconsistent with your voice. That make your listener to have to keep turning down their volume in between listening to your commentaries. Please.
What was the air temp?
When we started it was about 19 Celsius, but the city we went to was around 10. We started driving around 4 and finished around 5:30 (due to stops , swapping the cars and the cameras)
So the standard range is expected to have a full range of only 220miles brand new before any degradation and in moderate weather? Did I miss something?
Maybe closer to 240 miles if depleted 100-0%, new in moderate weather l? I was expecting a bit more out of refresh. Great test tho team!
Yeah, we have not got more than 410km in our battery test, but it is still great for a SR
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_GadgetsBut wait, didn't Tesla or you advertised it as having 500 km of range for the Model 3 highland? I want my money back! False advertising! LOL
@@KP-xi4bj Don't mix up highway range and WLTP-Range. WLTP is a mix of highway, city and standard roads. In summer I get 12,3 kWh/100 Km driving only few highway. So the 491 Km is not far away. Including winter the average is 13,8 kWh/100 Km.
He was driving 130kmh
Wltp is like 90kmh cruise equivalent
Reach to 513 km. It's an advertisement, it doesn't actually work. 😅
Energy spent fot highland should be 16.2kwh. 49.9kwh - 33.7kwh.
Please consider to stop calculating Degradation from the Full Pack When New value. This not the starting capacity for most battery packs. For each battery we know the actually average capacity when new and those values should be used. FPWN is nothing more than an identifier for the battery pack, nothing more.
If you ķnow a reliable place where to find it I would be interested!
@@papysebpapy You could search the terms "Akkuwiki TFF" or take the known consumption constants and look at Teslalogger degradation statistics.
I have a 2022 M3P. Currently at 74 000 km in 20 months and degradation at 7% (according to Tessie app)
Wow. 7% sounds like a lot, but after all, 74k kilometres is not a small number for a car a bit more than a year old. You drive a lot sir 😊
You lost me at kW instead of kWh
For a car that’s already the most efficient in the world, that is even more efficient with the new highland just makes it that much better! I swear the pressure these Tesla are putting on the rest of the market is insane! It just goes to show you when you focus on quality instead of quantity, the market response favorably towards that company! Numbers don’t lie and the fact that all Tesla are now 40% safer than any other vehicle on the planet according to the NHTSA and getting better with each update, makes Tesla vehicles a much better consumer option than anything else! They are still fun vehicles with all the features and fast as shit! Looking forward to what Tesla does next, they are in a league of their own!
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The other brands catched up fast on efficiency (for example BMW i4) but Tesla still misses big time on traditional features. Tesla can not even auto park which every other low budget car can do since many years. Tesla will get real pressure from the Chinese cars.
Referring to battery capacity as having “kW” makes the whole video suspect. Are you actually EV experts?
I am definitely not an expert and we say this in every video. We are guys that enjoy Tesla and make cool things for it, but if you want to watch a more in depth review with lots of facts, go to Out Of Spec channel. They are amazing 😊
My 2019 SR+ has 13% degradation after 196000 km. A bit disappointing to be honest
Not sure if you get the notification, but I'll try with a question on this interesting topic. What's your charging routine? Do you charge to 80% to increase battery life? Do you often discharge the battery deeply (state
@andrzejz4218 My car has now 21% degradation after 257000 km. My charging habbit is to charge to 90% and if I have a longish drive I even charge to a higher state of charge (100%) right before I leave. Sometimes I forget to put the limit back to 90% and that is not good for the battery because then it is on 100% for a long time. I also do go as low as 1% to get to my destination. Charging is then fast for the first 40-45% at a Supercharger or when I go home I can charge there.
Would I buy this car again? No, not with this battery size because basicly I need more range for my daily driving so I think I've asked too much from the battery. I do still like the car so I will keep it but my wife is going to be using it and I am looking for a new one.
Don't know yet which one but I think it is going to be a Tesla again. Maybe model Y LR RWD or model 3 LR RWD.
@@joepurple009 Thanks a lot for the extra details!
The degradation @257000km seems a bit high comparing to the previous data point, but 79% remaining capacity is still pretty usable.
You seem to be using the car in a reasonable way so either you didn't win the "battery lottery" or it's just the way it should be.
Glad that the car is still enjoyable, as this is the ultimate testimony and gives more confidence for the ICE crowd to try this new EV thingie out without worring too much.
this video shows no difference compared to the 2022 Model on the german autobahn for 150km: th-cam.com/video/zvP8_EiPIZ4/w-d-xo.html
Its Tesla or Volvo ex30 for me..if i choose tesla definitly iam buying sexy knobs or stalks when you devolep them..best regards from Croatia guys
You will not be disappointed
Still major deficits with the Model 3 face lift. Same lfp battery, same motor, same suspension geometry. Key features missing, park sensors, 360 camera view which means no from camera. Missing turn stalks. Also, having to use the screen to maneuver in tight is a nightmare. BYD seal is a cheaper option and has a ton more features. BYD still needs iron out a couple of items but one gets a lot more car than Tesla offers with facelift Model 3.
Slower ac charging, yearly service costs, worse range, worse autopilot equivalent, Chinese brand etc
Slower charging (not true), yearly service costs?, worse range (not true), Chinese brand (lol) and the Tesla being tested is made in China😂 and same can be said about American brands 😂…like I said, BYD need to still iron out some issues but the production cars will be a lot better. Tesla vision for parking doesn’t work and wishing all who buy this car an awesome time side parking. It’s a nightmare 😂
Дупница, а 😂 Супер полезен клип
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So 360 km real life range out of promised 500km?
Well, the WLFP stats its 513km, but the real range is less. We have tested it 2 times from 100% SOC to 0% and the best we got was 410km.
But yeah, most people will get between 350 and 400 depending on the reads they drive and the weather.
based on this model.. what will be the range of the dual motor?
Yes, but you could say this is pretty much an “highway range test”. The cars were driving at constant decent speeds, without slowing down very often, and therefore without recharging.
The claimed 500+km range is most likely not easy to achieve, but if you are driving in the city and maybe on slopes, you can for sure get closer to that number.
As a reference: in a Model 3 Performance i once did a 200km mountain trip, 100km one way, with a huge constant uphill slope. Then 100km back, obviously mostly downhill. Turned out that out of the 200km of road, i consumed exactly 213km of range. That proves that the situation you’re driving in, really matters.
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgetsamazing regardless as my 2020 M3P only gets about 420km real world.
My 2021 SR+ (LFP) would get 320 real world kms also.. its same battery same range, the new shape doesn’t help. Its just more sales BS as proven here
@@Xmanu_RR We will get one next week and check it for ourself :)
6:00 amateur. try the pre 2020 model 3 which is even noisier haha
Have you even watched the entire vehicle ? One of the cars is 2019
still has double glass@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets
2 years battery degradation but at what mileage ? 2 Yerars for average driver in E.U should be 40k km and at that mileage 4,5% is quite bad ,
but at mileage 100k km 4,5% is a normal degradation .
It's around 41000 km
I have 7% degredation on an LFP after 24000 km under 2 years old and super charged about 20 times. Never kept at 100% for long times mostly kept around 70% SOC when not in use.
@@Adam-lx4et That is a Bad News man , hope this is not a standard issue
@@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets My opinion is , that degradation goes too fast .
@@Adam-lx4etDo you charge up to 100% from time to time ?
What is the displayed range when charged at 100% ?
To be more accurate, wouldn't you have to compare the efficiency of a brand new '19 and '22 with the new '23? For all we know, the efficiency of a '23 will drop in 5 years.
Well, with Tesla , it is impossible to find a brand new car from 2019 or 2022. They make the cars per orders, not per forecasts (at least here in Europe )
Efficiency wouldnt change that much...
Motors dont become more inefficient over time.
They are permanent magnet AC motors
Efficienty not lose just battery soc so less range and per total less Efficienty, but just for 100 km is the same
It's not called Highland.
And how is it called?
Were all 3 brand new cars?
The cars are great, but that music is god-awful! Is that what people listen to now-a-days?
All numbers are false 😢
- 2019 : 17,6kwh of 52,4 nominal new is 33,5% not 39%
- 2022 : 17,4kwh of 60,5 nominal new is 28,7% not 31%
- 2024 : 16,6kwh of 60,5 nominal new is 27,4% not 28%
At around 1:00 he speaks about xx kW (kilo Watts) batteries. But he means kWh (kilo Watt hours) - something totally different. How to trust the hole video, if right in the beginning such horrible mistakes are made?
Horrible mistake? Sorry that you could not sleep over it 😂
That's not the biggest mistake, we all understand what he meant anyway
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Здрасти пичове! Не знаех, че сте българи! :)
2019 is the fastest , that’s all you need to know🤣🤣🤣
I bet the Tesla wins
How could you pretend to be an EV expert when you don't even know the difference between kW and kWh?
100km -30% battery on new model. Means 350km with fully charged battery and cruising speed at 90kmh on motorway. What a BS. If drive it 140kmh++ maximum range will be 250-300km. LMAO.
1 hour at charging station with high power Tesla charger is just stupid. 1$ per hour its 60$ for fully charged battery after driving 300km. WTF?! My 530d BMW can drive 850-900km and I'll pay same price for diesel, lol.
Front lights of highland looks cheap