I Got to Test Ride the Serial 1 Electric Bikes by Harley Davidson | My Overview and Review
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0:00 - Serial 1 ebikes specs overview
7:03 - RUSH/CTY and RUSH/CTY Speed review and test ride
10:49 - Hill Climb
11:42 - Walkaround of RUSH/CTY and RUSH/CTY Speed
13:53 - Motor/shifting noise and brake lights
14:36 - MOSH/CTY single-speed overview
15:35 - MOSH/CTY review and test ride
16:23 - Conclusion
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What is your favorite model in the city lineup of the Serial 1 electric bikes by Harley Davidson? Check out the models: ebikeescape.com/serial1 Check out the forum: serial1owners.com/
I like the Mosh/CTY! For what I'd use it for, it was the most fun! But they all put an instant smile on my face and totally exceeded my expectations!!!
@@alexgipson4237 yeah! I got Last week Serial 1 Mosh City bike. And i love it. My work travel is about 8.6km. And its nice to go with my Mosh City. Greetings from Finland.
I bought the MoshCity a few days ago on a clearance sale and absolutely love it. This is a 1st gen bike and it doesn't work with Serial 1's new cloud based app so my LBS was blowing them out. I really didn't care about their app as I have two Specialized ebikes, a Vado SL and a Levo Comp Carbon SL that use the Mission Control app if I want to track my stats. This bike is a cruiser and the single speed gates drive makes it stealthy and virtually maintenance free. I highly recommend this ride. 👍
There have been some pretty awesome deals we have seen on 1st gen Serial 1 ebikes. Glad you are enjoying your MoshCity, we definitely enjoyed our time on that ebike. -JT
Excellent review! Thank you!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
So how do you change your chosen cadence level on the Rush models ? On Specialized Vado's you can do it on the fly while riding with a push of a button on the handlebar. Would like to know about that on this one as they may be more available than Specialized right now.
Cool! Helps alot, ordered my Mosh today
Glad it was helpful. Enjoy your new bike!
Great looking rides and great design getting the cables hidden. I do have a concern, being in Oregon, about rain considering battery placement.
Something definitely to consider. I did not ask about how weather proof they are.
Nice review and very detailed, although some of the audio was a bit muffled I could her both of u very well. One question does the Brose motor peak at 750 watts max output?
We have since upgraded our audio equipment. The audio is much better then it used to be. -JT
I like the bike, and it looks slick! My jobs is a mile down the road from me. So I am looking for a e-bike that can: 1: Handle my equipment, 2: handle extremely bumpy train tracks, 3: Handle some lose gravel (my driveway), 4: Go a long distance if I want to take it out.
I love that is has an atc, but I would love to see some fatter tires, shocks, and ability to buy front and rear basket, an extra battery, cell phone holder, and parts.
The biggest reason why I want an E-bike is because I am wanting to save on gas, and wear and tear on my car. Short distances are a killer for vehicles. So I could potentially save a lot money in that sense.
There are quite a few fat tire ebikes that could fit exactly what you are looking for. The Aventon Aventure.2 immediately jumps to mind. Or maybe even a cargo ebike if you are in the market for a almost complete car replacement.
Thank you for the video. I will likely buy one based on your observations. The fisheye lens gave me motion sickness
Glad you found it helpful. Please consider using the link in the description before making your purchase as it helps support the channel. Sorry it made you motion sick!
I believe the auto shifting feature will be prevalent in many ebikes going forward. I loved it on the Specialized Vado 5.0. I don't like the looks of that battery sticking out on the bottom and this bike has no front suspension. Thats a win for Specialized imo at about the same price. Still this looks like a close 2nd place to me.
No mention of the gear ratio on the Mosh City? What are the sprocket sizes? Can maintain 20mph?
I found my answer: 50T front, 22T rear. 27.5" * 50T / 22T = 62.5" gear. That's only good for cruising upto about 15mph. Pathetic. Ride1UP Roadster V2 uses 27"*64T/20T = 85" - that's the kind of gearing this needs.
Hi Frank, thanks for sharing the information. I wish I would have spent more time with the MOSH.
Accelerometer detects braking and increases headlight brightness. Neat touch, can that be disabled for night riding? Or will one want a brighter light for night riding?
Good question, I'm not sure. Maybe someone on the Serial 1 owners forum will know: serial1owners.com
My understanding based on current information is that it’s only the tail lights that are effected by the accelerometer, getting brighter when braking.
The rudimentary bike, the suspension is missing and the bench lift post could be like many other brands!
If you can try and see one in person and let me know if you still feel that way.
Great video! Those are high quality commuters! I wouldn't hesitate ordering one if I needed a commuter. I actually think the prices are reasonable for the quality you're getting. Keep up the good work, Ryan!!!
Thanks! I agree that the prices are reasonable.
These are pedal only with no throttle, correct?
Correct, no throttle
@@EbikeEscape - Thanks. I usually pedal anyways, but there are those times... 😉
I'm impressed with the quality, and can appreciate the low center of gravity. I'm not sure I'd want the shifting done for me all the time, or if the riding experience would be my style. Seems they could have given the option of a wireless shifter control.
I really would like to spend more time with it, customizing the settings in the Enviolo app. I'm a big fan of the no maintenance aspect.
@@Altema22 I think the app & riding it & seeing the auto shifter would impress you more than you think, just like it did me! I was thoroughly impressed with these! I test rode this weekend, they're now available at most dealers in the south for!
wow this video really changed my opinion on these, i thought they were some overpriced brand name bikes, but now i see the minimalist design and high end and low maintenance components are much more appealing. Any idea how much these bikes weigh?
They are all about 60 lbs. And I agree, the cost in my opinion is justified when you look at the care that went into designing these bikes.
The 4 models range from 48lbs to 60lbs! :)
TOTALLY recommend a test ride! It was way more impressive than I thought it'd be!
Don't know but my city mosh I can lift single handedly over my head but Mrs city rush is a bit of a slab😁😁😁
FYI bestbuy is doing a close out sale on all the gen 1 models for 50% off MSRP. Just got a mosh for 1899, the rush is 2,499 and the rush speed is 2,799. Dang good price for the kit!
It doesn’t have a throttle, that makes it practically useless.
@@eliwol3789 “iT dOeSnT hAvE a ThRoTtLe, ThAt MaKeS iT pRaCtIcAlLy UsElEsS”
Want to know what has a throttle? A moped. Last time I checked, this was an electric ✨bicycle✨
I don’t want a moped, but I appreciate the throttle option if I choose not to pedal. This bike has pedal assist, which is cool for some, but for my needs I like having the throttle option as most US bikes have it. A lot of people who get these type of Ebikes find themselves dissatisfied and trying to retrofit a throttle option later, and it’s probably one of the reasons the Serial 1 did not have great sales. I still think it’s a cool bike as long as you’re not in an area with a lot of hills. Before you buy it see if you can get a demo, you will see what I mean about the hills.
@@eliwol3789 not many mid drive bikes will have a throttle due to the nature of how they operate . One of the few mid drives that does have throttle capability is the bafang mid drive. Mid drives assist at the crank, so inherently making one throttle assist is well, a dangerous endeavor on itself. If the throttle sticks and the crank sticks and keeps spinning, good bye ankles. I am sure there is solutions that could be implemented. But generally the cost factor involved, the trying to keep compliant with international ebike regulations and the safety aspect keeps major players from dipping their toes into mid drive with throttle.
So if they were to go throttle, the most likely scenario would be going to hub drive. It’s going to be a real tough sell at the 4000$ + price point putting a Bafang mid drive on a bike and even thought sell putting a bafang hub drive one a bike. European standards dictate ebikes are limited to 250w, you are not going to get 90nm of torque on a hub drive. Most 750w hub motors are only pushing 60nm of torque. Way above European legal standards.
Very nice bike, and excellent review. Curious how that 750 wh battery stacks up against my 52V, !9ah Juiced Rip Current? Anyone??
That 19Ah pack is from Juiced is 988 watt hours.
@@EbikeEscape thanks, I found the formula after I posted this. Have you tested the Juiced Rip Current S? If so, how do you think it compared to the S1? I am aware the motor is not as high quality, but what about the ride, handling, etc.?
I’ll keep my eye out on serial 1, and hope it becomes available outside the HD dealerships in Canada, maybe Best Buy ca, I had a price worked out with an HD dealership, all inclusive and was excite to purchase, I informed I wanted to order and have shipped, typical with Ebike, do the assembly myself, they insisted on assembling (and charge $ of course ) , I expressed I didn’t want the bike assembled and shipped, didn’t make sense, I expressed this is out of the norm within the Ebike industry, the sales person said we’re Harley, they got backed to me later and said I was out of the free shipping Zone, that I could request a custom quote for the “assembled” unit to be shipped, I told them there’s many options to premium Ebike that offer simple “ADD TO CART” free shipping , with option to assemble myself, typical dealership headache, turned me off from an Ebike I really wanted , waste of days of research and negotiations, edit, my all inclusive deal over a 6 hour period become plus documentation, plus assembly, plus “custom” delivery, forget it !
Interesting. We wonder if this is something specific to Canada, have not heard anything like that stateside.
@Ebike Escape wouldn’t be hard to find out, look for an HD dealership in the U S that carries the Serial 1 brand, see if you can “Add to Cart” Or they require you to speek with a salesperson, That being said, the thing I admire most about the Ebike industry (rad rover, Evanton) is the direct to consumer platform, HD of course functions on the established Dealership Platform, Rad Rover Canada offering great deals right now ! and of course it’s “Add to Cart” stress free, price is the price, free shipping . 🤠🇨🇦
Nice bike, but forget about modding/upgrading except through what HD makes available, and doubtlessly at a stiff cost. Among the things I really like about RAD bikes is that the batteries are _not_ integrated into the frame, the motors and controllers are upgradable, cables are relatively accessible, etc.
Good points! I too like that I can completely choose to strip my Rad bike if I choose. The Serial 1 ebikes will appeal to those who have no interest in this.
@@EbikeEscape I completely agree. Nothing wrong with HD's approach, and those who value, say, aesthetics over ease of upgrading -- I imagine that those of us who like to tinker represent a relatively small minority of ebikers.
Yep....I went with a Rad Rover...one third the cost of these over-priced offerings
I actually think you can modify more than you think! At the very least, go take a test ride! I was thoroughly impressed!
It's a brose motor. So many tweaks available be missing mine in summer
It's a head turned and top notch stylish city cruiser. It does stick out from the greyness. Only bought it for these reasons. It's not a race bike there's massive misconception about what it is and what it does
So true - thanks for watching. Hope you enjoy your Serial 1 for many years to come!
Dang i really wanted to see how these handle the Big hill!
Same, unfortunately they weren't willing to let us borrow a review model at that time.
Harley definitely put a lot of engineering into these bikes. They have a lot of quality components but there is no suspension? It doesn’t matter how much quality parts if you have no suspension or fat tires.
2.4" tires are plenty wide enough for me. No suspension needed or wanted.
Remember these are truly setup for city riding. My hunch is there will be more models coming...
Suspension on a bicycle will rob you of power, especially with hills. Fine on an off road bike but not a road bike, fat tires will also increase resistance, again less power to move. Yep, Harley would have very good componants the price actually doesn't seem bad, I was expecting them to cost more considering the cost of their motorcycles.
Seems like it needs front air shocks for that price.
Depends on where you ride but yes a front suspension would be a nice addition. My guess is we will see one if they expand the product line.
Just bought a mosh today.Awesome bike no doubt. Best looking ebike made. And the belt drive is awesome. Quiets bike down big-time. Dogs don't bark until im close lol. Power is good for me and im a big guy. Second ebike for me. Also have a magnum mtn bike. Great bike as well.
Awesome - glad you like it! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I’m so torn between the looks of the Mosh and Enviolo of the Rush. Does the Mosh have resistance/cadence adjustment?
@@LukeTPZ Most cty has no such feature. It's single speed and very simple. You may not be able to go faster than 15 mph but its fun.
To bad it wasn't full suspension
That would be something!
It feels like ebike enthusiasts are very negative - they really DONT want to accept that this is a beautiful well thought out bike that will sell well.
I agree with you. I don't really understand why people don't like the package Serial 1 has put together. I think it will be compelling to a lot of people.
First, there are the people who can't accept anything selling for more than 1/4 the asking price. They don't want to understand price differences between quality components vs cheap look-a-likes: cheapskates. And then, there is the negative influence of those who listen to motorcyclists of other brands who relentlessly bad-mouth H-D motorcycles, and will denigrate anything having to do with H-D, case-closed. Both groups will likely refuse to open their minds (until, maybe, the positive reviews of these new bicycles are more widely published).
These bikes look nice, but nothing unique, and the price is close to Riese+Müller territory.
Curious to hear more about why you don't think they are unique. What bikes would you say they are similar to?
Out of price range
It is on the higher priced side of most people's price ranges. But man it is a very nice ebike. -JT
DO NOT BUY THIS BIKE! Company lies to owners about updates to make sales, and replacement parts are impossible to get.
Care to share more details?
They promised backwards compatibility with their gen 1 bikes and their new APP interface. The app was supposed to have been released in2021 but was delayed a year. They have been selling gen1 bikes at full retail since. Just a few days ago they release gen2 and announce that the app is NOT backwards compatible, essentially making the gen1 bikes obsolete and undesirable. Many people like me, just bought our gen 1’s feel betrayed by serial1 and their lies. I now have a 2 month old bike that was 6k that’s now obsolete. The parts issue speaks for itself, people wait months for even the smallest part like scuffed racks from shipping, and longer when there is faulty parts.
You know my guy. I’m glad they don’t offer backwards compatibility with the app. BMW is charging people 18$ a month subscription for heated seats in some countries now. Can you imagine the ebike world if companies started charging extra to unlock features remotely. I’ve had Samsung phones go to hell after a forced update. No thanks, I will gladly take my non app connected, non cellular connected mosh and enjoy it without worrying about micro transactions.
@@imawesomekbye still devalues your bike. I paid 5.8k for a bike was promised compatibility, then 2 month later they released a new run of bikes that rendered my 2 month old bike obsolete. Last I checked the were wholesaling Gen1 speeds at best but for half of what I paid, just a few months after selling them to unsuspecting customers for 5.8k.
It’s terrible that they have treated you like this, but you’re not alone. A lot of people got scammed buying this bike at the 6k price, and some have experienced issues with the reliability with the motor. It’s a nice looking bike on the positive size, but since the unit lacks a throttle, and their scarcity of parts, and reliability issues with the motor, it’s something avoid. I notice the owner of this video only hearts the positive comments, and gets confrontational with honest feedback.
Overpriced like Harley. Get full suspension bikes for same price point with stronger motors. And yes i do ride e-bikes, so do some research yourself.
Take that mask off your outside and no one near you
Hi David - this was the requirement of the event we attended. Simply following the rules so we could ride some sweet ebikes!
5 grand !!!! Waaaaaay over-priced.....likely built with mostly proprietary parts....even more expensive to repair....it's a "Harley" so lots of repairs will be necessary..... lots of choices for e-bikes are out there now...why buy this poo-poo? ... just get a keychain or t-shirt...more useful and a little less expensive.