I wish I'd known that flipping over the handlebars at 20 mph where the shoulder ran out and a car bearing down on me forbid me access to the roads edge and the rough transition did the rest. The crash sent me flying over the handlebars when the torque from a hole twisted the front wheel sideways even though the handlebars were held straight in a death grip while I was thinking this is gonna hurt. I was knocked out and I received my first broken bone in my nearly 60 years on this planet. collar bone (clavicle) is a bad bone to break. Don't let your guard down when riding any bike especially an ebike, respect it, else you will get hurt, and possibly killed. had my crash thrown me toward the road rather than the ditch I could have easily been run over by the car that was coming up on me and forcing me to leave the pavement. Be safe out there.
Please reply. I am looking to buy one, I am interested in the Freesky Alaska M520, but how's the customer service? Are they good with warranty? Can it handle rain showers? Heavy rain? Can it handle lots of dust and sunlight heat? I currently have a Gotrax Braeburn and I can't find anything on it. Can it handle the weathers mentioned above?
Great informative video !!! QUESTION: Would you still give the same warnings / considerations, even for this particular bike, here: th-cam.com/video/eJiV9tLUuH4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KeDbHh7CbWAiAtww ? I've watched several videos for this specific product and no, other owners seem to have the same concerns or problems you've mentioned, here. For those contemplating a purchase or anyone else new to the eBike game I wish your video would have, had pictures (for representation purposes) displayed on your screen. Some of your viewers myself included may not be all that familiar yet with this mode of transportation. All I'm saying is that it just would have been nice if we had some pictures of various things to go along with some of the things that you are highlighting for your audience. Just my opinion either way I still enjoy the video and all of your ideas of things that consumers need to watch out for. Thanks for all the good info.
I did a lot of research before purchasing the e-bike, but this video would have been an aid before buying and now riding. In early June 2023, I will be 79 years old. What the heck am I doing on a bike, especially an e-bike? That is what I asked myself when I started looking into buying an e-bike. I was moving and had five 10-speed bikes that I gave away as I have a breathing problem, and pedaling didn't help! So, it was easy to donate the bikes. However, on TH-cam, I watched someone with a knee replacement have lots of fun. That started it all. So, I purchased a 20-inch step-thru e-bike that, with pedal assist, I could again enjoy the biking experience.
Good for you mate, young at heart and enjoying life. If I have the same attitude and passion for riding when I am approaching the 80 mark I'll be a happy man. Enjoy the thrills you only live once
My father is 83 and he's been bicycling for many years since he was 10 years old. Only recently I have thought about trike but he's still going so at 79 you are only a spring duck
I bought a bonc J1 sleek long range minimalist e bike and it's only 20 pounds Looks like a regular bicycle with a hidden Motor with assist pedaling and also throttle if choose not to pedal. I can also charge my phone off my bike as I ride I hit 40km on this bike and it's Soo smooth. You can also buy extended batteries for this bike so you can go even further. With the bike battery and the extended battery I can go as far as 80km away. I do not regret my decision to buy one and wish I would of bought one sooner. There alot of fun😊
Thank you, I just recently sadly donated my bike…at 74, it is the first time since age 6 that I haven’t had a bike. I have been toying with the idea of e-bike or e-trike, this video is helpful to add to things to consider.
I've ridden motorcycles for years, and recently got an E-bike (done over 700mi so far). Love it ! The common denominators for riding anything in traffic - don't go faster than a situation allows, and please - be courteous and use your common sense !
My e-bike rides very much like a Triumph Bonneville but lighter. I love that thing so much, being able to keep up with traffic, (up to 45) I ride just like I would the Triumph, turn Indicators, hand signals, head on a swivel.( I can pedal and it keeps me at the same speed so hands signals are possible)
3100 miles on my Aventon Level 1. Ridden it every day for 18 months. It takes time to build skills and understand it all, but it has essentially replaced my car. I’m 70 and have driven cars close to a million miles, motorcycles for 20,000 miles. That e-bike is the most fun vehicle I’ve ever owned.
@@davidcooper4385I lived on a regular bike through college then got a real job. Didn’t do much on them until a few yrs ago until I got into this. Very similar but very different.
I just bought the Level 2, bc they had a flash sale with a free extra battery. I am going to ship the bike to Europe and poke around a bit. I already have a cheap chinese ebike, but there was too much quality in the build to not get it, this is the bike for me.
Tell us you don't have an ebike without telling us.... I have been riding bikes for 45 years and got one of the first mountain bikes in the late 1980s and jumped on that and pit thousands of miles on mountain bikes in both city and serious terrain across the country. I also have been riding Enduro motorcycles for 25 years. A E bike is NOT either of these and does in fact ride quite differently. Especially if you get a crank sensor as opposed to a torque sensor. But you know all of this most certainly 🤣🤣🤣
I'm 61 and I was surprised at how much my bike weighs (70 pounds). I read the manual before I got on the bike and it has allowed me to understand how to maintain the bike 4,000 miles later I have NEVER once drained my battery and mostly charge it at 2-3 bars left. It runs just like new and I keep it clean😅 I giggle every ride. Best investment I ever made
Mine is GREAT!! I'm 63 and ride at 3x@wk. I go 6-33 miles depending on time available. Best thing I've done since retiring. Went from 250 lbs to 206. Getting back in shape and got my med numbers back where they should be. Love my fat tire e-bike!!
I've had a 500 watt hub drive ebike 20"x4" fat tire folder for over a year, bought it used. It's my main mode of transportation now. 60+ miles range, 4 hour charge costs pennies. Usually ride 10-15 miles a day. Ebikes are considered bicycles in my town, I ride sidewalks and dirt trails. I love my bike. Rode 700 miles in one year.
i have owned a rad runner 1 for three years now.....the main thing i had to get used to was no suspension system....when you hit bumps or holes you hit them directly....bought a padded springed seat and put two padded gel covers over that....helped a lot but my butt does giggle a bit.....i rode regular bikes for 50 years but due to my advanced age (72) i have switched to e biking....helps me stay outside, get some exercise, and puts me in a good mood.....i keep my legs moving no matter what assist level i am using...great concept for older people
I, myself, have been trying and TRYING to get my but to “giggle” for over six decades, and have never ONCE been able to get so much as a chuckle or even a sideways grin out of it. Guess I need to keep trying? If you could manage it, then by golly so can I! 😅
I, myself, have been trying and TRYING to get my but to “giggle” for over six decades, and have never ONCE been able to get so much as a chuckle or even a sideways grin out of it. Guess I need to keep trying? If you could manage it, then by golly so can I! 😅
Dude. I’m a traumatic brain injury survivor from riding my brand new e-bike and getting hit by a car last year and I brought a himiway now to overcome my safety issues. Thank you for informing videos 😊
I am a bicycle rider, and as bike rider and car driver have had a lot of problems with e-bike drivers. Your discussion about safety and the distinction of having a throttle is the most thoughtful thing I have read on the subject. Something I have not seen discussed anywhere is the relative weight of these things with respect to the braking system and the capability of the platform.
I've tried most top class E-bikes, 25 or 45 km/h speedlimit. All of them had very efficient brakes. Modern disk brakes will rather surprise you with efficiency, than the opposite! Biggest concern are inexperienced and often careless riders ignoring what they are doing! Especially middle age extremely fat women with low riding experience, and older speed obsessed men seems to have extra lives available 👀☠️
New ebike owner after owning and riding bikes since the 1970s. Folks, this is a whole new ballgame. I'm slowly learning the ins and outs and nuances, particularly when starting and stopping. I still have a nervous feeling when riding it, but I'm hoping I'll relax more with more time in the saddle. Be careful out there and use good situational awareness when playing in traffic.
I used a timer to charge my battery up to 70-80% only, You can calculate how long it takes to fully charge your battery and divide the time to how much charge you want in your battery next time. This will avoid overcharging your battery and extend its life considerably.
I love my fat tire e-bike but it is at least three times heavier than a regular bicycle so it’s very important to be careful when you are riding around pedestrians or other bicycles because in the event of an accident the damage is likely to be a lot worse than an accident involving just an ordinary bicycle.
Yes. When you add up the weight of you, equipment and the bike, going downhill at speed, you appreciate the energy you are part of. Because of that, I think it essential that you have hydraulic brakes that work as designed.
Totally agreed! Normal bike speed maybe 10 mph, ebikes can go up to 28 mph. That is faster than you think or feel. The faster you go the harder you will crash. Wear your helmet always!
I hate bicycle helmets I bought me a skate board helmet it is much better than a styrofoam helmet. Mine can be used on mini bikes and four wheelers as well. Better protection is the key. 73@@diskgrind3410
If you have the peddle assist turned on and come to a stop if you even slightly touch the peddle with say your shin the bike will jump ahead and if the chain comes off and assist is on you can figure a trip to emergency if your fingers get caught in the chain because you moved the peddle putting the chain back on , make a habit of shutting it off when needed and have a good think about when that is
I don’t think any bikes PAS is that sensitive, and most will not engage the motor if either hand brake is engaged. Re: broken chain.. if you’re trying to put the chain on without the bike powered off, e-bikes just might not be your thing :|
I just had my first wipe out on my e-bike the concrete doesn’t give at all so when my body slammed down on the pavement I was very glad I had my full face helmet on it saved my face and life! Wear your safety equipment you will be glad you did, trust me! These bikes can get going pretty fast and they are fun just know that anything can happen!!
I’m 5’9” and I got a large frame e-bike in October ‘22. I am approaching 4000 miles. Early on my butt, lower back and legs were killing me. Now I can’t ride enough. I try to average 120 miles per week now.
I am researching an ebike for exercise/strengthening my core and lower back. Is this an option? If your lower back hurt, I may not be able to push thru that transition. (Work injury)
@@barbshubert9667start with something else, like swimming or rowing, or seek professional advice for specific exercises? Up right position shouldn't burden you as much lower (racing..) style.
The one thing is there are EBike chargers with sensors that turn off the charging when the batteries are fully charged. If they get overcharged it can possibly burn down the house. Also get rear view mirrors.
Yes review mirrors are a must even when in designated bike lane,distracted drivers where i live have trouble staying out of the bike lanes.I go with the flow of traffic.I am lucky i am still physically fit enough that i mostly peddle that said i have a e-bike kit bicycle weighs approximately 50 lbs bike lock empty panniers frame bag bike tools spare tubes,change of clothing but has weighed as much as 75lbs with loaded down panniers with groceries
I'm 77 yo, and have a recumbent trike and velomobile both upgraded to e-assist in 2022. The trike has a 750w motor; the velomobile, 250w motor (due to lack of room), both Tongsheng mid-drives. I had that done because I had developed a heart arrythmia characterized by a heart rate spike if I push too hard. When that happens, my heart rate can suddenly jump to 200 bpm, from as low as 125 bpm. This is neither comfortable nor healthy and can result in me beginning to pass out on a ride. The pedal assist is great because I can still get a workout, but I don't need to worry about heart rate spikes. I also ride unassisted road bikes, but I control heart rate on those by mixing in a 2000mg dose (half teaspoon) of potassium citrate into my water bottle and drinking it as my electrolyte of choice. The main concession I've made is to drop my average annual mileage from 12000 to 10000 miles per year, half on road bikes and half on the recumbents. I'm enjoying my rides as much as I ever have in the 54 years I've been active as a cyclist.
as far ebike fire risk goes dont buy aftermarket batterries and use or replace the charger with same type that came with bike. in other words buy batteries and chargers from the bike manufacturer.
Thumbs Up on your Battery Safety advice. I've had a beginner Nakto for 2.5 years. Just purchased a new battery and ride 5 days a week to work. 8 miles total. Never an explosion with the CORRECT battery.
E-bikes are not more dangerous than any bike if ridden responsibly. All bikes are inherently "dangerous" in the sense that riding one exposes the rider to potential injury compared to not riding at all.
Totally agree with you Mark. I don’t believe CAT 1 eBikes are any more dangerous than any other bike. It’s when you start throwing in throttles, bikes without appropriate speed governors and 1000+ watt motors ( all more likely seen in the cheaper bikes) that people start getting into trouble. Higher end eMTBs with “EMTB” or “Trail” mode help riders avoid the inadvertent spin-out on steep ascensions you might see when “hanging on for dear life” on a throttle grip.
E-bikes allow novice riders to go speeds it would take years of normal riding experience to reach. They don't recognize the danger they put themselves and others in.
Ebikes are inherently Heavier than any acoustic bike, combined with higher speed from the assist, and way too many ebike riders that have not ridden a bike since childhood, and you have the possibility of more danger to the rider and everything around them. (From a 30 yr MTB rider, 25 yr round bike commuter, 6 yr eMTB rider).
E-bikes are in the moped category. They're more dangerous than bikes, but no where near as dangerous a motorcycle. A dirt bike weights around 224 pounds, and a motorcycle weight around 600 pounds. it's the weight that makes them dangerous, as it can cause damage if crash, or make you fly off if you fall.
Here in UK legal e-bikes are limited to 250 watts. Although there are riders who ride Surron bikes, which are basically e-motorbikes out on the roads and these aren’t legal and police do FA about them. I would say there are a lot of trade offs when you buy an ebike. Don’t scrimp on the battery or motor and look at the warranty on the frame which can vary. I went with a Bosch motor and battery in the end, which is purpose built for the frame. Just ride considerately to others.
One of the best videos explaining e-bikes. First time I hear about weight, battery capacity and motor size for 300 lbs class riders related to distance and presence of hills. Very helpful. Another thing which I haven't find yet is video where needs of service is explained. How do I now it is time for service and so on.
I bought my first e-bike 3 years ago, and now have nearly 10,000 miles on it. My issues: two flat tires, but other than that zero issues. This bike has brought so much adventure into my life I wouldn’t have with a traditional bike. If you’re thinking about it, go with quality, but don’t break the bank.
Great video! First thing I learned by using an ebike was how to continue controlling the ebike when the motor kicks in… because sometimes you can be going 16/17mph with no assistance then you hit an hill, your speed drops and you feel the motor kick in and if your not prepared for it, it can come as a bit of a shock. My advice with any new ebike is to give it a good test drive on a quiet road or quiet car park before venturing out just to get used to how it handles and how best to ride it. Further to this, if your going for a smaller tyre size than your used to (esp. with folders), definitely take your time in getting used to it, tyre size drastically changes how the bike should be ridden.
Excellent information, I have been riding the smaller foldable eBikes for some time now. I had to buy a longer seat post to have the correct leg extension, and the one big downside on my bike is it only has a single gear in the back so when the battery runs out it’s hard to pedal home, so make sure that you’re comfortable riding it all the way home if the battery runs out. Also, I just buy one of those cheapie bright orange reflective net vest just to make sure I am seen.
Yep, I have a BRIGHT yellow t-shirt I wear every ride. I assume every car is going to cut me off or pull out in front of me because they didn't see me. Slow down and hands on the brakes till yer out in the open again.
Also regarding storage of the bike before you even purchase one if you happen to live in an apartment building you've got a problem unless you want to risk leaving it in the basement with the other bikes and potentially have it stolen or taken apart. Seems to me but if you live in the private house with a garage that is different. Also if you're the owner of a four-door sedan vehicle and thinking about attaching a hitch, make sure it is possible and feasible, otherwise got to get yourself an SUV
Well done! I'm 72, 5'6", 28 inch (pants) inseam, and 225 Pounds. I have a (Eunorau Fat-HD)fat tire, mid-drive bike that I've ridden for about 1500 miles in New Hampshire during the summers in mountainous terrain on paved roads, gravel roads(Most miles), rail trails and some paths. I typically ride 15-20 miles per day if it isn't Raining. I LOVE MY E-BIKE! What I didn't hear and wish I knew BEFORE buying this bike was FIT. My bike is simply too tall...I have to lean the bike a lot to mount or dismount, and since the bike is heavy it has gotten away from me a few times. I'm in the process of buying a new bike with a step-through frame to assist my old short man stature to more safely mount and dismount. I ride a conventional hybrid bike in Florida during the winter usually 8-13 miles on pavement.
One thing that ebikes do that adds to safety is they keep you up with the traffic. Assuming you can handle the speed, having speed that is relatively similar to the surrounding traffic, is a big advantage. In the old days, the main concern with car/bike accidents was t-boning. In the current environment with distracted drivers, getting hit from behind by passing vehicles, something that should never happen, is increasingly common. Any cyclist knows and sees all the people who are on their phones, not to mention intoxication. And many folks these days think it is entirely OK to be a dangerous driver, equivalent to being drunk. They feel social norms condone driving and texting. Being hit by a care that is moving at 30 mph is a death sentence. But relative speeds if you can keep up with traffic, combined with the longer time they have to see you, make activities like commuting a lot easier. But now as a motorized vehicle, you need to obey the laws, and common sense that apply to driving on the road, and staying off the sidewalks, relative to slower vehicles around you.
I've just got an ebike, after 35 years not driving/riding. I used to ride bikes (pedal and motorbike) a lot when younger. My ebike is terrifying. I'm still trying to work out how to turn safely, without the power slaming on before being at the apex of the corner. The way the power comes on is _very_ different from any petrol driven vehicle I drove in the past. So much low speed torque!
@johnfoster all eBikes are different so I don’t know how this suggestion would translate to your bike and situation. My ebike has 6 “modes” with race being the fastest -which also means it’s more likely to lurch forward unpredictably and accelerate faster. When I’m around people and heavy traffic I set it to 1 or 2 so it’s slower and not so jumpy. Maybe there’s an online Ebike support group with your brand where you can discuss the issue you’re having with them? All the Best.
Sounds like you decided to buy some low grade Chinese crap? I've tried more than ten different high quality ("western") E-bikes, they were all constructed to drive safely in more than one way. Don't just buy first or cheapest offer!
Here’s a tip from a 71 yr old who rides daily and will resist/refuse to go electric as long as possible. Everyone has heard the saying “you never forget how to ride a bicycle”. I’ve observed that isn’t true of those who have found a renewed love of cycling with e-assist. You never rode a bike that weighs 50-70 lbs at 20 mph. I rarely ride without being buzzed by e-bike riders wobbling into my lane.
In Oregon we conform with California's system, 20 mph limit with throttle assist, 28 with pedal assist (group 3). 20 is plenty for suburban street riding and trails. Also pedal assist is separated into 4 or 5 levels, usually (from low to high assist) Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo, and Boost (if there's 5). Each makes pedaling a little easier, but uses up the battery faster. You can turn off the assist altogether, but it does make the bike feel very heavy, at least with all the bikes I've ridden.
😊I’ve been riding bikes since a youngster like all kids. At twenty I bought a Fugi, then a Giant, Trek, another Giant, Schwinn and so forth. Then at 76, I bought a Himiway. Didn’t take long to take a digger. As you said, overconfidence did me in. I had 140,000 miles on regular bikes since 1968. I had all the answers. Two rotator surgeries and a wrist plus lots of generalized healings. But at 80, I love to ride. The weight and the power scares me since my two surgeries. I loved your video as you hit it on the head. Now everything is thought in advance. I’m going to read about your bike now, so thank you.
Oh man wish I seen this video before I bought my E-bike , you covered a lot of my questions in this one video. I live in Sacramento and I didn’t know that E-bikes are not allowed on bike trails. I was going to use mine to get to fishing spots along the American river and the Sacramento River. I got a class 2 bike and all I can drive it on the bike lane on the roads and people in cars sure don’t look for bikes.I took my bike to Gibson Ranch park near me so I can get the hang of it before I hit the streets with it. Thank you again for this video.
Sensational vid dude. Just what I needed to back up what I have researched myself. Really good to know I was on the mark, this has made me happy to order my choice tonight. Cheers
Here's some things I would add or add onto being a decade long ebike owner of many different bikes. To add about battery fires etc....But a fireproof/explosion proof bag or container. For like 25 USD you can get one that fits all single batteries from an ebike and maybe two but I'd store separate like I do. I'm not sure what a box would cost but the bad for me is perfect. Make sure it fully closes. Some sold are bs and have big gaps on the side air can get in which fire needs...Mine for 25 dollars has a zipper and velcro. Next is buy at least one GPS chip if not two or three depending on how much you're invested in your bike. Plus each ones uses different protocols and one in one situation might not work. For eg Airtags need something running iOS near the chip to follow it. So I suggest two kinds at least. Then there's a bike cover if leaving out locked. It's shows that bike thieves many times skip over bikes that are covered. It's a cheap added security measure. Get even a cheap security system. I also really suggest is ebike insurance from a reputable company. Your car insurer probably already has it that you can check out and maybe bundle. It's usually under 100 USD a year. Mine is 65 a year and it covers what I paid for my bike not what they say it's worth which is important. Another is that it doesn't hurt to get a couple more LED lights to run whenever you're riding. Get a loud horn with a button by your hand with easy access if someone is pulling in front of you or drifting into you etc. Get mirrors. At least a left side one to see cars coming up on you. VERY big help keeping alive. All those ppl on their phones drift a ton. Decide what you need for safety gear. But at the least you need a good ebike or mountain bike helmet. Even a skateboard ramp helmet is great if you have one. The ones racers use aren't good for safety. You want one that covers the back of your skull well. And don't buy cheap Chinese crap from Amazon for 20 dollars. Spend at least 60 from a good known company that's been around. Like Bell, Smith, Schwinn, Base Camp just for some eg. It's your head, that you can't live without. Mine has saved me twice in 5years(hit by ladies on their phones). Came out with broken hips and other assd bones and scrapes and broken bikes by my helmets took hits and saved my head. No joke. It's not if, it's when someone on their phone clips you, pulls out in front of you as you're going down a road, drifts into you in traffic or outright hits you head on. Which is why I also suggest always wearing a GoPro or grab a Garmin mini to record while riding in case you're hit and they run or lie.
Great reply that should be pinned to the top! By any chance, do you have links to the fire proof battery bags, bike cover, and helmet you use that you would recommend?
Great post. I will add that battery fires happen with cheap batteries without UL certification. reputable bike brand that uses only high-quality well tested batteries something to keep in mind
This has just about persuaded me out of buying a bike. I quit riding motorcycles when my BMW (battery is under the gas tank) battery exploded and burnt my carport down with my brand new car next to my mc. I quit riding after that until now. I wanted to start riding for exercise and strengthen my back/core. But this list has me strongly considering not riding. Wow.
How I wish videos like this was available when I got my e-bike! I knew nothing and nearly killed myself two or three times. Two major wipeouts and several minor ones!! So, in my infinite wisdom, after the first accident, I watched a video on e-bike mountain biking, it was a Godsend! Also, learning to use the throttle to start off with instead of having your bike in assist 1 or whatever, use the throttle until I get going and have my balance, then, I let off of the throttle and start peddling. Weight is another issue. Mine is a fat bike and is very heavy and difficult for me and my short stature to fold and get in the trunk of my car, so, ended up getting a carrier for the car instead. I still love my bike, but, have ordered a 26” commuter bike with narrower tires and somewhat lighter. Wish me luck. Thank you for the video, very helpful.
Great info! Thanks. One thing I'd add is that there are some useful small ebikes that have fixed, nonremovable batteries. I have one (Jetson Bolt Pro). It was only $400. It's good for errands around the neighborhood. Just something for people to think about when purchasing an ebike.
I'm going to add my knowledge into this. As far as I know, most people should learn and review the laws regarding E-bikes at a state level first. Why? Because most states have a constitutional provision that prohibits localities and municipalities from making their own rules. Basically, it's the idea of a general law applying to an entire state, versus a state law only applying to one specific place within a state (e.g., applying a law to Michigan rather than only Detroit). That being said, I live in Michigan. After reviewing Michigan law, the only places E-bikes are completely banned state-wide are Mackinac State Park on Mackinac Island, and any other trails or parks with native soil terrain (i.e., dirt trails). These "native soil" trails have no crushed stone or asphalt pathway. Even then, E-bikes up to Class 2 can be used on any park trail or rail-trail without issue, while a park or trail authority can prohibit or limit Class 3 E-bikes. Otherwise, E-bikes are considered just like regular bicycles while being used. Meaning, obey the rules of the road. This also means local authorities cannot ban or prohibit E-bikes, as doing so usurps the state legislative authority. Lastly, because E-bikes must have functioning pedals, there is no license requirement for any E-bike in Michigan. If you do not have functional pedals, then you are considered to be on an electric moped or an electric scooter. At which point, you would need lights (headlamp, taillamp, turn signals) and a motorcycle endorsement for an equivalent motor output of 11.1 kilowatts, as this is equivalent to a 125 cc, 15 hp moped or scooter.
I converted my recumbent bike to electric. Mounting the battery was a challenge because of limited space, but other than that it was fairly simple with a few tools including a crank removal tool ànd a 15mm pedal wrench. It's really exciting to ride and safer than a regular bike because you can keep up with city traffic. But as usual be careful and attentive to cars and road conditions. Also remember to slow down for turns! Have fun!
I own an Ebike. It's now 10 years old, one thing that fails is the batteries fail and you want a bike that the battery isn't single sourced. If you buy the generic battery later on you can buy a bigger pack that just slides into place. They can cost 1/2 the price of single sourced batteries. I would stay away from mid-drive Ebikes. It seems like they have more issues than Ebikes with hub motors. All the friends with Mid-drives have converted to hubs now and I am no longer repairing/adjusting the bikes.
#12 - Be prepared to do your own fixes and periodic maintenance. Local bike shops aren't likely to touch your e-bike if you didn't purchase it from them or your warranty period has expired.
I found that to be completely untrue. Like everyone else, ebike stores need work and money I haven't found one that was so snooty as to turn down the work because I didn't purchase it from them
Just a thought here about charging , and that is probably a rule that should be followed with any rechargeable battery , and that is , if your battery has just been working hard and is hot , give it some time to cool down before throwing it on the charger , apart from the safety aspect I suspect it will also help prolong the life of your battery.
Another point is the cost of accessories. I bought a 1000w mid drive last years for 3k$. Two months after receiving it, I added 1k more in protections, clothing, lights, repair tools, grease and oil.
Loved all the info. only wished I had found you all before I bought the bikes we have, I feel now more than ever, that I should have gotten one of your bikes. I can not even get on the last one I bought, not tall enough, and I know now that I should have gotten one with a low step-through area.
Just did the first proper ride on my newly acquired Cannondale Habit ebike. Absolutely brilliant piece of kit. 50 mile round trip on a converted old rail track which was quite broken up and flooded in sections. Didn't need more than Eco mode most of the way and still had two bars of battery capacity left at the end.
Nice little commentary on e-bikes. I'm just getting involved with the e-bikes, although I've been a cyclist most of my life, this is a new venture for me. You broke it down nicely. Thanks
Excellent video, and you keep things very basic and simple, which is important for people that no nothing about these bikes. Very helpful to me. Be great to do a a video on buying a "used e bike" like how to test for battery life etc.
Tip number 12 on an ebike.......its fast so be prepared to eat a lot of Insects at the fast speed and wear glasses so they dont go into your eyes......think what a car windscreen looks like after a long journey
I was just surfing around and found the channel, but what great information. This is the info that someone gives when they have spent a shitload of time on an ebike. Just bought the Level.2 with an extra battery, cant wait to get out there.
Thanks for your informative video. You touched on many good things. I have been working within the bike industry since 1991 and I love the e-bike revolution. However that being said I am worried about the dangers of the e-bikes. I have lived through many high speed crashes in Lycra, gloves and a helmet. Was injured for a year back in the late 80's from a 32 MPH crash. Can you make a video on what people do to make themselves safer on an e-bike. Clothing, lights, traffic? Thanks again for the video. Looking forward to you next one.
Yeah but not a single cop gives a fuck about bikes or ebikes, if you are riding safely. I have a 1200 w ebike in Austria and never got stopped by any police..
Thanks for this information. I've just bought my first ebike. And I see, I chose the right bike, which matches all your criteria. I've been riding bicycles all my life, so I've come to the same conclusions as you did. The only thing you missed, in my opinion, is the weight of the ebike. It affects not only control of the bike, but also handling the bike: carrying it into and from the basement, or some other place, carrying it over a trench or a log of wood or a rock on your way. I think, the ebike should weight under 60lb so it can be handled more or less comfortably.
I had an e-bike. A new Cannondale. I'm not criticizing Cannondale. The bike performed as it should. However, this lightweight e-bike had no suspension and skinny tires. That may be OK for younger people, but it was a disaster for me (I'm in my 70s). I ride on rail-to-trails, and these trails, while paved, are often bumpy with asphalt ripples and bulges. E-bikes go much faster than regular bikes - 15-20 mph versus 10-12 mph for a regular bike. I pedaled hard AND used the motor, so I was traveling at 15-18 mph all the time. The impact of crossing asphalt bumps and ripples at that speed with no suspension caused internal injuries. After a few rides, I experienced devastating, agonizing pain. I had MRIs and other tests which identified no direct cause. However, I still had agonizing back and side pain with movement. I gave up riding the e-bike and started seeing a physical therapist. It took three months to resolve whatever injury was causing my pain. I lost a whole summer recovering. After recovery, I decided to sell the e-bike. I took a $1,000+ loss. I replaced the e-bike with a standard pedal bicycle, a Giant Cypress DX. The Giant bike had front suspension and a sprung seat post. Long story short, since buying the Giant bike, I have had no recurrence of any pain. The last couple years have been my best bike years ever. I ride virtually every day now and have done thousands of miles. I have had great workouts. I will never ride another e-bike.
A quality suspension seat post is a game changer on any bike for improving the jaring effect to the spine. I added a suspension seatpost to a road bike, for a small weight added it added huge gains in comfort. Another thing that helps is not to run maximum tire pressure, put enough air in the tires to support the weight of you and your bike - do not overinflate to max pressure on tire.
I believe the number one thing you should know before buying a e-bike is the difference between cadence assist and toque assist. Big difference. Toque assist is much safer and it pedals just like a regular bike. Cadence assist you don’t need any force on the pedals, just a little movement of the crank and the bike will jump forward. Toque assist is a smooth acceleration forward. Especially when turning a cadence e-bike will accelerate without peddling if you slightly move the crank. Test ride both and you will definitely feel the difference.
When I get on or off my Wired Freedom, I have made it my habit to always put the PAS into 0 mode. That way the bike won't move accidently if my hand is on the throttle for stability.
I got an ebike with the purpose of riding it like a motorcycle and really didnt even know about "pedal assist", now that I know the joys of it, I really only use the throttle to get up and going from a dead stop. I have learned all of the speed is in pedal assist not the throttle.
I love my standard hybrid very low maintenance and I get a great workout. I’m semi retired and I’m still in good shape. I love hills. I’m never in a hurry I stop a lot. I’ve had my bike for many years. I’m ok with some modern technology but I also love simplicity! My bike weighs about 15 pounds. I commute with my bike 3 days a week. Maybe when I’m older and I’m out of shape and need some help I’ll consider an e bike. But for now I’m fine.
One thing I would add that would have been nice to know is that buying LOCALLY ( if you can get the STYLE you want ….. I had some issues with the bike I purchased from across the country…. ( the battery lock that keeps the battery from disconnecting from the tray was broken and laying on the bottom of the box …. It took 4 months for them to send the new tray that the lock is attached to …. And then b4 i figured out for my self how to remove the seat and unplug the wires located under the seat … I went to several e-bike shops and called others NONE of them wanted to do the repairs telling me they ONLY work on bikes they sell .. and one suggested he might do it but would charge by the hour ( on a bike he’s not familiar with ) I’m thinking PAD the hours ! Luckily I figured out how to reattach the wires and STUFF them back in their place …. It took nearly a year b4 I was able to ride it ( because of my work schedule ) Even though I had a bumpy beginning I am VERY PLEASED with my purchase…, but this will let folks know the problems that can arise when a bike is shipped from elsewhere .
Where do you live man? All the ebike shops I went to need work and money like everyone else. No one has been Snooty enough to say you have to buy the bike here. As far as padding hours... That's a risk you take anywhere with mechanics, I have found most to be honest and good. The edit is, most brick and mortar ebike stores have an extremely limited supply and choices of bikes. They are well aware of the online competition, which is why they are fine with working on them.
When I asked a bike shop if they work on bikes from online purchases, they told me they will, but the requirement is that the customer leaves the battery at home in case of fire.
Anything is dangerous, the military made me dangerous. Your right, e-bikes are not analog bikes. Even a pedal assist bike while on can jump if you push the pedal!! I’m on my second class 1 e-bike specialized Levo comp. Pedal Assist. So, motor and battery life are factors as well the over all class of e-bike and what you intend to do with the e-bike. Good info your provided! The warranty is very important!
I put about 3500 miles on my ebike every year the thing that I have most problems with is the batteries go bad so I just buy a a new ebike every year because they want 500.00 just for the battery and I need new brakes and tires by then to
Thank you very much! I’m thinking about buying EBIKE and now gathering for information. Your video is the most detailed and loconic at the same time, and because of this is very helpful. Subscribed right away after watching. Many times when I watch some TH-cam videos I felt as I just loosing my time. It’s definitely not about yours. Thanks again!.
Throttle is allowed in Europe, but only up to 5km/h , basically as park assist. The size of the motor is also limited in Europe. In the Netherlands a normal pedal asist motor has max power of 250W
Seems like some new ebike owners want to "hack" the controller to increase the motor cut-off 5-15 mph faster. Not realizing the suspension, tires, and braking systems are really designed for the original for Class I/II/III category. Another issue I wish I researched more was warranty and servicing of an ebike. You might have a 1-2 year warranty; but, it might be hard to make a claim because of poor customer service, delay in overseas part shipment, or you need to provide the labor yourself to replace. You have to ready to turn a wrench, service more often, and get your hands dirty with an ebike if you want it running for years. Most I've done with my old pedal bikes was fix a flat, clean the chain, update the saddle, or add a handle bar riser.
Lot of good points made in this video. The biggest thing I see with these e-bikes is the drivers are not yielding to pedestrians on sidewalks and paths. I been clipped several times by ebikes and hit 3 times in my life by just pedal bikes. I seen mothers grabbing their kids of the sidewalk as a bike zips by. Getting hit by a 225 lb driver and bike doing 16 mph is the same force as you jumping off a 20 foot roof. That is a lot of force you are controlling and you need to teach your kids that they can hurt someone very seriously.
I got my first e-bike almost 4 years ago. When learning how to control it (and practicing tricks on it) I ended up crashing it 3 times. 2 while stunting and 1 time I got hit by a car pulling out of a driveway while on a sidewalk. 2 and a half years ago I got my second e-bike and it is a lot more competent. It feels like a true power e-bike in its hay day I would be pushing 30 mph on it and it has turn signals and brake lights and truly feels a lot safer to ride in a city. When I got it I haven’t tried stunting on it once, it’s a lot more of a proper road bike. Sadly last November I got hit by a truck on it at a crosswalk, he turned into me. When the accident happened it split my front fork in half and my turn axle on my front wheel but even after that beating my bike has been a loyal steed. I’m getting the axle and fork repaired tomorrow sadly I don’t have the tools to do the repairs but I did get the parts :D
Sounds like most comments are left by clueless and inexperienced USAmericans living in wild West conditions... while riding dangerous low grade Chinese crap cycles.. 👀☠️
I’ve been on eBikes since 2009 as a mobile service. My injuries in San Francisco as follows: 2011 - Doored: severely bruised arm 2012 - Car clipped front tire at 25 mph: broken femur (two places), broken clavicle, broken ribs, nerve damage in arm. 2015 - Broken shoulder (Slipped on rainy day over thick paint on street) Since then the bike lanes are safer now.
Good advice. Have had a great experience over the last 4years. You always have to be on the defensive. Along with the helmet you should always have a left rear view mirror to see what is going on behind you. Good ebiking ...all the best...Chris 🇨🇦
The biggest problem with e-bike charging is to use a good charger. Please stay away from the $ 10 to 40 dollar Amazon chargers. Use a factory replacement charger from the manufacturer. They are rated for your battery. I have seen some ok chargers from Amazon but not good enough to leave my battery on it. Once an e-bike battery starts to burn there is no putting it out.
Yea it's a strange law. I once hit 39mph on my mountain bike about 26 years ago at the age of 14. I'm sure most fit adults could do over 40mph just pedalling ✌🏼
You stated that 250Watt assist motor is good for a couple-mile trip. Sylvia of "Travel by Trike" crossing America on 250Watt with Rohloff hub on her trike. Huge 390lb NFL-size rider here. 250Watt with Rohloff hub on my delta trike. 250Watt is the legal maximum limit on many bicycle paths! Have geared hub 250Watt front wheel on a delta planform trike too.
How can you do a video like this and not mention hub motors versus mid mount motors? One turns the wheel while the other turns the crank. The mid mount motor lets your motor use the rear gears as a transmission which is a huge advantage. A hub motor is good for novices on fairly flat ground but a more serious rider will almost always prefer the crank motor.
Here's one - they are HEAVY!! I get really frustrated that I can't load and unload my Aventon onto the rack by myself. I'd love to take it out to my local wildlife refuge or to the beach by myself but I just can't do it. Takes two.
I built a simple e bike ramp so that my wife could load her 70 lb pedigo boomerang onto our rack on an SUV. It may take some engineering, but you can find videos related to the building of a rack on TH-cam.
I am totally with you on this. I just bought a Marin Presidio 3 - it's about 27 lbs, but my Aventon Level is 55 lbs. You expect ebikes to weigh more but you don't expect they are twice the weight of a regular bike.
Great video - thank you; e-bikes are dangerous is right on; I accidentally hit the throttle of my e-bike and I landed in the hospital; my helmet cracked and the e-bike frame had fallen apart! I still e-bike.
64 yr old male, been riding bikes and dirt bikes since 4 yrs old. Bought a dual motor (750W ea.) 20" fat. These bikes are relatively heavy (mine70lbs). I highly recommend hydraulic/disc breaks. I shopped/researched bikes for weeks to find the one that fit my needs...lights (including head, turn and break), large spring seat, dual suspension, USB & iPhone mount, mirrors, fenders, throttle and LED instrument cluster. Charger shuts off when full. ($1,500.00 delivered) I live up in the hills of Grand Terrace Ca. Any questions? Feel free....
My bike was bought second hand. The pedal assist works in 1,2,3,4,5. The throttle does not work at all. Not sure why and I have discovered that it is nearly impossible to have a bike shop work on it. :-(
my wife and i are 70 yo we bought e bikes and we luv them, we used to ride mountain bikes but we live in the part of Texas where the hills are long and tall so we cant ride regular bike any more but the E-bikes scoot right up the hills. I weigh 260 so i got one with 2 battery's and a 1000 watt crank moter.
I bought a Lectric mid drive (premium) and it has a throttle. I loved the idea of hub drive so much, that I also bought an Ariel Rider Grizzly with dual 1000w hub motors… Love them both!
I have been on a lot of trails with my E Bike and I have never seen any "Bike Policing" checking to see who riding what type of bike. My main riding trail has a sign saying "Pedal Assist only". Yet I have seen many riding Throttle only bikes and Gas powered bikes.
Yes, no BS, it is hell of dangerous of the Cars around times you ride of having either of you or car driver at fault. I know this out of many close encounters of my age of experience of riding bikes in traffic . I always ride SAFER THAN SORRY and ALWAYS pull up a bit when getting into intersections of roads crossing, especially cars turning in the street you are on before crossing intersections. CARS just dont expect bikers TO BE AROUND. THEY KNOW OF us BUT RAELY COME ACROSS OF BEING USED TO NOT HAVING IN MIND OF A POSSIBLE BIKER AROUND THE CORNER. The technical issues of danger is always there and do takes a responsible well minded person with common sense of being aware of the use of e bikes..
just bought a 500 watt longhorn handlebar sit upright regular size wheel deal! I am 69 years and 267 lbs. looking for 225, the lbs I have allways carried around. delivery is on its way. if ya care to know. I'll let you know after 9-22-2023.
Throttle is dangerous to me.I like my e-bike .I have a 500 watt and I keep an eyes on the battery and know how long I can ride in a one charge.I get get more if I ride on Eco mode vs Turbo.peoples need to do research before buying.Charge it at night and where I live can get hot in the garage and I leave my battery in my bike ,so far no problem.But I am starting to bring it inside when temperatures hot 100 F
E-Bikes are heavy and can really do a number on your muscles if pull up on it, turn to fast, keep it from tipping over, even lift it up too fast on a curve. They are really not as fun to ride as a nice fast light bike.
Wow this was good information. I haven’t bought my E bike yet. I’m shopping right now and decided to check out advice on TH-cam and here you are! Had to subscribe. Thank you so much! 🚴
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I wish I'd known that flipping over the handlebars at 20 mph where the shoulder ran out and a car bearing down on me forbid me access to the roads edge and the rough transition did the rest. The crash sent me flying over the handlebars when the torque from a hole twisted the front wheel sideways even though the handlebars were held straight in a death grip while I was thinking this is gonna hurt. I was knocked out and I received my first broken bone in my nearly 60 years on this planet. collar bone (clavicle) is a bad bone to break.
Don't let your guard down when riding any bike especially an ebike, respect it, else you will get hurt, and possibly killed. had my crash thrown me toward the road rather than the ditch I could have easily been run over by the car that was coming up on me and forcing me to leave the pavement. Be safe out there.
Please reply. I am looking to buy one, I am interested in the Freesky Alaska M520, but how's the customer service? Are they good with warranty? Can it handle rain showers? Heavy rain? Can it handle lots of dust and sunlight heat? I currently have a Gotrax Braeburn and I can't find anything on it. Can it handle the weathers mentioned above?
Great informative video !!!
QUESTION: Would you still give the same warnings / considerations, even for this particular bike, here: th-cam.com/video/eJiV9tLUuH4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=KeDbHh7CbWAiAtww ? I've watched several videos for this specific product and no, other owners seem to have the same concerns or problems you've mentioned, here.
For those contemplating a purchase or anyone else new to the eBike game I wish your video would have, had pictures (for representation purposes) displayed on your screen. Some of your viewers myself included may not be all that familiar yet with this mode of transportation. All I'm saying is that it just would have been nice if we had some pictures of various things to go along with some of the things that you are highlighting for your audience. Just my opinion either way I still enjoy the video and all of your ideas of things that consumers need to watch out for. Thanks for all the good info.
@@manuellubian5709what size motor is in the discover 2?
I did a lot of research before purchasing the e-bike, but this video would have been an aid before buying and now riding. In early June 2023, I will be 79 years old. What the heck am I doing on a bike, especially an e-bike? That is what I asked myself when I started looking into buying an e-bike. I was moving and had five 10-speed bikes that I gave away as I have a breathing problem, and pedaling didn't help! So, it was easy to donate the bikes. However, on TH-cam, I watched someone with a knee replacement have lots of fun. That started it all. So, I purchased a 20-inch step-thru e-bike that, with pedal assist, I could again enjoy the biking experience.
Good for you mate, young at heart and enjoying life. If I have the same attitude and passion for riding when I am approaching the 80 mark I'll be a happy man. Enjoy the thrills you only live once
My father is 83 and he's been bicycling for many years since he was 10 years old. Only recently I have thought about trike but he's still going so at 79 you are only a spring duck
Awesome to hear! Age is just a number and you can still enjoy the things you've enjoyed in the past! 💪
I bought a bonc J1 sleek long range minimalist e bike and it's only 20 pounds
Looks like a regular bicycle with a hidden Motor with assist pedaling and also throttle if choose not to pedal. I can also charge my phone off my bike as I ride
I hit 40km on this bike and it's Soo smooth. You can also buy extended batteries for this bike so you can go even further.
With the bike battery and the extended battery I can go as far as 80km away. I do not regret my decision to buy one and wish I would of bought one sooner. There alot of fun😊
Thank you, I just recently sadly donated my bike…at 74, it is the first time since age 6 that I haven’t had a bike. I have been toying with the idea of e-bike or e-trike, this video is helpful to add to things to consider.
I've ridden motorcycles for years, and recently got an E-bike (done over 700mi so far). Love it ! The common denominators for riding anything in traffic - don't go faster than a situation allows, and please - be courteous and use your common sense !
And keep your head on a swivel.
My e-bike rides very much like a Triumph Bonneville but lighter. I love that thing so much, being able to keep up with traffic, (up to 45) I ride just like I would the Triumph, turn Indicators, hand signals, head on a swivel.( I can pedal and it keeps me at the same speed so hands signals are possible)
3100 miles on my Aventon Level 1. Ridden it every day for 18 months. It takes time to build skills and understand it all, but it has essentially replaced my car. I’m 70 and have driven cars close to a million miles, motorcycles for 20,000 miles. That e-bike is the most fun vehicle I’ve ever owned.
Build SKILLS 😮😮😮😮😮 ACTUALLY at 15 u should been a great rider I. M. H. O
@@davidcooper4385I lived on a regular bike through college then got a real job. Didn’t do much on them until a few yrs ago until I got into this. Very similar but very different.
I just bought the Level 2, bc they had a flash sale with a free extra battery. I am going to ship the bike to Europe and poke around a bit. I already have a cheap chinese ebike, but there was too much quality in the build to not get it, this is the bike for me.
Tell us you don't have an ebike without telling us.... I have been riding bikes for 45 years and got one of the first mountain bikes in the late 1980s and jumped on that and pit thousands of miles on mountain bikes in both city and serious terrain across the country. I also have been riding Enduro motorcycles for 25 years. A E bike is NOT either of these and does in fact ride quite differently. Especially if you get a crank sensor as opposed to a torque sensor. But you know all of this most certainly 🤣🤣🤣
@@RobBigs-lu8bq you will love it! I got mine a couple months before they started throwing in the free battery!
I'm 61 and I was surprised at how much my bike weighs (70 pounds). I read the manual before I got on the bike and it has allowed me to understand how to maintain the bike 4,000 miles later I have NEVER once drained my battery and mostly charge it at 2-3 bars left. It runs just like new and I keep it clean😅 I giggle every ride. Best investment I ever made
What bike ?
I'm 59, and after riding old-school bikes for over 4 decades, I'm hopping on the e-bike express.
I just got one
Mine is GREAT!! I'm 63 and ride at 3x@wk. I go 6-33 miles depending on time available. Best thing I've done since retiring. Went from 250 lbs to 206. Getting back in shape and got my med numbers back where they should be. Love my fat tire e-bike!!
Me too... I'm 65..
I've had a 500 watt hub drive ebike 20"x4" fat tire folder for over a year, bought it used. It's my main mode of transportation now. 60+ miles range, 4 hour charge costs pennies. Usually ride 10-15 miles a day. Ebikes are considered bicycles in my town, I ride sidewalks and dirt trails. I love my bike. Rode 700 miles in one year.
hey if u dont mind me asking, which model of bike do/did you have?
i have owned a rad runner 1 for three years now.....the main thing i had to get used to was no suspension system....when you hit bumps or holes you hit them directly....bought a padded springed seat and put two padded gel covers over that....helped a lot but my butt does giggle a bit.....i rode regular bikes for 50 years but due to my advanced age (72) i have switched to e biking....helps me stay outside, get some exercise, and puts me in a good mood.....i keep my legs moving no matter what assist level i am using...great concept for older people
A suspension seat post will be your best friend. I bought a cheap one: Suntour, from Amazon.
I, myself, have been trying and TRYING to get my but to “giggle” for over six decades, and have never ONCE been able to get so much as a chuckle or even a sideways grin out of it.
Guess I need to keep trying? If you could manage it, then by golly so can I! 😅
I, myself, have been trying and TRYING to get my but to “giggle” for over six decades, and have never ONCE been able to get so much as a chuckle or even a sideways grin out of it.
Guess I need to keep trying? If you could manage it, then by golly so can I! 😅
Dude. I’m a traumatic brain injury survivor from riding my brand new e-bike and getting hit by a car last year and I brought a himiway now to overcome my safety issues. Thank you for informing videos 😊
Hope you've fully recovered! Be careful out riding.
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Hey kudos to you for surviving. In anything we do we take a chance/risk. Be careful.
Himiway?
Only knock I have on my Himiway is the weight. When you’re going through the Clark Kent (Superman) routine, good luck.
I am a bicycle rider, and as bike rider and car driver have had a lot of problems with e-bike drivers. Your discussion about safety and the distinction of having a throttle is the most thoughtful thing I have read on the subject.
Something I have not seen discussed anywhere is the relative weight of these things with respect to the braking system and the capability of the platform.
I've tried most top class E-bikes, 25 or 45 km/h speedlimit. All of them had very efficient brakes.
Modern disk brakes will rather surprise you with efficiency, than the opposite!
Biggest concern are inexperienced and often careless riders ignoring what they are doing! Especially middle age extremely fat women with low riding experience, and older speed obsessed men seems to have extra lives available 👀☠️
New ebike owner after owning and riding bikes since the 1970s. Folks, this is a whole new ballgame. I'm slowly learning the ins and outs and nuances, particularly when starting and stopping. I still have a nervous feeling when riding it, but I'm hoping I'll relax more with more time in the saddle. Be careful out there and use good situational awareness when playing in traffic.
There is just no substitute for time on the saddle.
@@MarkSmith-js2puI could mention a few, most likely no longer relevant to people in presented age 👀🩼🧑🦼⚰️
I used a timer to charge my battery up to 70-80% only, You can calculate how long it takes to fully charge your battery and divide the time to how much charge you want in your battery next time. This will avoid overcharging your battery and extend its life considerably.
Proper chargers and controllers do that for you now
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Buy a decent charger and you don't have to worry about it.
I love my fat tire e-bike but it is at least three times heavier than a regular bicycle so it’s very important to be careful when you are riding around pedestrians or other bicycles because in the event of an accident the damage is likely to be a lot worse than an accident involving just an ordinary bicycle.
Yes. When you add up the weight of you, equipment and the bike, going downhill at speed, you appreciate the energy you are part of. Because of that, I think it essential that you have hydraulic brakes that work as designed.
I would like to point out especially for noobies, going 20 mph on an E-bike feelslike 40 in a car, slow down before curves.
Totally agreed! Normal bike speed maybe 10 mph, ebikes can go up to 28 mph. That is faster than you think or feel. The faster you go the harder you will crash. Wear your helmet always!
I hate bicycle helmets I bought me a skate board helmet it is much better than a styrofoam helmet. Mine can be used on mini bikes and four wheelers as well. Better protection is the key. 73@@diskgrind3410
Idk, I used to go just as fast when I rode a 10 speed years ago. Just like back then, you gotta use your head for more than a hat rack. Js.
You have to lean it, just like a cycle, when your going fast you have to counter steer.
@@DatGuy960 Watch out for ruts etc. that can "throw you down".
If you have the peddle assist turned on and come to a stop if you even slightly touch the peddle with say your shin the bike will jump ahead and if the chain comes off and assist is on you can figure a trip to emergency if your fingers get caught in the chain because you moved the peddle putting the chain back on , make a habit of shutting it off when needed and have a good think about when that is
Excellent comment.
I don’t think any bikes PAS is that sensitive, and most will not engage the motor if either hand brake is engaged. Re: broken chain.. if you’re trying to put the chain on without the bike powered off, e-bikes just might not be your thing :|
@pl7868 Pedal * 🙄
lol Nope. You must own a cheap chinese bike.
You just saved me a trip to the emergency room. Just got a ebike and can see that happening to me. Thanks
I just had my first wipe out on my e-bike the concrete doesn’t give at all so when my body slammed down on the pavement I was very glad I had my full face helmet on it saved my face and life! Wear your safety equipment you will be glad you did, trust me! These bikes can get going pretty fast and they are fun just know that anything can happen!!
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This presentation is calm, organized, easy to hear and a huge value to someone just beginning to research ebikes.
I’m 5’9” and I got a large frame e-bike in October ‘22. I am approaching 4000 miles. Early on my butt, lower back and legs were killing me. Now I can’t ride enough. I try to average 120 miles per week now.
I am researching an ebike for exercise/strengthening my core and lower back. Is this an option? If your lower back hurt, I may not be able to push thru that transition. (Work injury)
@@barbshubert9667start with something else, like swimming or rowing, or seek professional advice for specific exercises?
Up right position shouldn't burden you as much lower (racing..) style.
The one thing is there are EBike chargers with sensors that turn off the charging when the batteries are fully charged. If they get overcharged it can possibly burn down the house.
Also get rear view mirrors.
Yes review mirrors are a must even when in designated bike lane,distracted drivers where i live have trouble staying out of the bike lanes.I go with the flow of traffic.I am lucky i am still physically fit enough that i mostly peddle that said i have a e-bike kit bicycle weighs approximately 50 lbs bike lock empty panniers frame bag bike tools spare tubes,change of clothing but has weighed as much as 75lbs with loaded down panniers with groceries
I'm 77 yo, and have a recumbent trike and velomobile both upgraded to e-assist in 2022. The trike has a 750w motor; the velomobile, 250w motor (due to lack of room), both Tongsheng mid-drives. I had that done because I had developed a heart arrythmia characterized by a heart rate spike if I push too hard. When that happens, my heart rate can suddenly jump to 200 bpm, from as low as 125 bpm. This is neither comfortable nor healthy and can result in me beginning to pass out on a ride. The pedal assist is great because I can still get a workout, but I don't need to worry about heart rate spikes. I also ride unassisted road bikes, but I control heart rate on those by mixing in a 2000mg dose (half teaspoon) of potassium citrate into my water bottle and drinking it as my electrolyte of choice. The main concession I've made is to drop my average annual mileage from 12000 to 10000 miles per year, half on road bikes and half on the recumbents. I'm enjoying my rides as much as I ever have in the 54 years I've been active as a cyclist.
as far ebike fire risk goes dont buy aftermarket batterries and use or replace the charger with same type that came with bike. in other words buy batteries and chargers from the bike manufacturer.
Thumbs Up on your Battery Safety advice. I've had a beginner Nakto for 2.5 years. Just purchased a new battery and ride 5 days a week to work. 8 miles total. Never an explosion with the CORRECT battery.
E-bikes are not more dangerous than any bike if ridden responsibly. All bikes are inherently "dangerous" in the sense that riding one exposes the rider to potential injury compared to not riding at all.
Totally agree with you Mark. I don’t believe CAT 1 eBikes are any more dangerous than any other bike. It’s when you start throwing in throttles, bikes without appropriate speed governors and 1000+ watt motors ( all more likely seen in the cheaper bikes) that people start getting into trouble. Higher end eMTBs with “EMTB” or “Trail” mode help riders avoid the inadvertent spin-out on steep ascensions you might see when “hanging on for dear life” on a throttle grip.
E-bikes allow novice riders to go speeds it would take years of normal riding experience to reach. They don't recognize the danger they put themselves and others in.
Ebikes are inherently Heavier than any acoustic bike, combined with higher speed from the assist, and way too many ebike riders that have not ridden a bike since childhood, and you have the possibility of more danger to the rider and everything around them. (From a 30 yr MTB rider, 25 yr round bike commuter, 6 yr eMTB rider).
E-bikes are in the moped category. They're more dangerous than bikes, but no where near as dangerous a motorcycle. A dirt bike weights around 224 pounds, and a motorcycle weight around 600 pounds. it's the weight that makes them dangerous, as it can cause damage if crash, or make you fly off if you fall.
@@warrenpeace7095that’s why I definitely prefer a thumb throttle.
Here in UK legal e-bikes are limited to 250 watts. Although there are riders who ride Surron bikes, which are basically e-motorbikes out on the roads and these aren’t legal and police do FA about them.
I would say there are a lot of trade offs when you buy an ebike. Don’t scrimp on the battery or motor and look at the warranty on the frame which can vary. I went with a Bosch motor and battery in the end, which is purpose built for the frame.
Just ride considerately to others.
One of the best videos explaining e-bikes. First time I hear about weight, battery capacity and motor size for 300 lbs class riders related to distance and presence of hills. Very helpful. Another thing which I haven't find yet is video where needs of service is explained. How do I now it is time for service and so on.
We can make a video talking about service and the important elements to keep in mind about service and ebikes.
I bought my first e-bike 3 years ago, and now have nearly 10,000 miles on it. My issues: two flat tires, but other than that zero issues. This bike has brought so much adventure into my life I wouldn’t have with a traditional bike. If you’re thinking about it, go with quality, but don’t break the bank.
Hi @EmilyTienne, did you have to change the battery in this time? I want to get an Ebike but not sure how long the battery lasts.
Great video! First thing I learned by using an ebike was how to continue controlling the ebike when the motor kicks in… because sometimes you can be going 16/17mph with no assistance then you hit an hill, your speed drops and you feel the motor kick in and if your not prepared for it, it can come as a bit of a shock. My advice with any new ebike is to give it a good test drive on a quiet road or quiet car park before venturing out just to get used to how it handles and how best to ride it.
Further to this, if your going for a smaller tyre size than your used to (esp. with folders), definitely take your time in getting used to it, tyre size drastically changes how the bike should be ridden.
Excellent information, I have been riding the smaller foldable eBikes for some time now.
I had to buy a longer seat post to have the correct leg extension, and the one big downside on my bike is it only has a single gear in the back so when the battery runs out it’s hard to pedal home, so make sure that you’re
comfortable riding it all the way home if the battery runs out.
Also, I just buy one of those cheapie bright orange reflective net vest just to make sure I am seen.
Yep, I have a BRIGHT yellow t-shirt I wear every ride. I assume every car is going to cut me off or pull out in front of me because they didn't see me. Slow down and hands on the brakes till yer out in the open again.
Also regarding storage of the bike before you even purchase one if you happen to live in an apartment building you've got a problem unless you want to risk leaving it in the basement with the other bikes and potentially have it stolen or taken apart. Seems to me but if you live in the private house with a garage that is different. Also if you're the owner of a four-door sedan vehicle and thinking about attaching a hitch, make sure it is possible and feasible, otherwise got to get yourself an SUV
@@readmore3634 yeah it’s important to watch everyone else just as much as yourself available
Well done! I'm 72, 5'6", 28 inch (pants) inseam, and 225 Pounds. I have a (Eunorau Fat-HD)fat tire, mid-drive bike that I've ridden for about 1500 miles in New Hampshire during the summers in mountainous terrain on paved roads, gravel roads(Most miles), rail trails and some paths. I typically ride 15-20 miles per day if it isn't Raining. I LOVE MY E-BIKE! What I didn't hear and wish I knew BEFORE buying this bike was FIT. My bike is simply too tall...I have to lean the bike a lot to mount or dismount, and since the bike is heavy it has gotten away from me a few times. I'm in the process of buying a new bike with a step-through frame to assist my old short man stature to more safely mount and dismount. I ride a conventional hybrid bike in Florida during the winter usually 8-13 miles on pavement.
One thing that ebikes do that adds to safety is they keep you up with the traffic. Assuming you can handle the speed, having speed that is relatively similar to the surrounding traffic, is a big advantage. In the old days, the main concern with car/bike accidents was t-boning. In the current environment with distracted drivers, getting hit from behind by passing vehicles, something that should never happen, is increasingly common. Any cyclist knows and sees all the people who are on their phones, not to mention intoxication. And many folks these days think it is entirely OK to be a dangerous driver, equivalent to being drunk. They feel social norms condone driving and texting. Being hit by a care that is moving at 30 mph is a death sentence. But relative speeds if you can keep up with traffic, combined with the longer time they have to see you, make activities like commuting a lot easier. But now as a motorized vehicle, you need to obey the laws, and common sense that apply to driving on the road, and staying off the sidewalks, relative to slower vehicles around you.
Even on a regular bike you need to obey and adhere to the traffic laws, not just on an ebike.
"One thing that ebikes do that adds to safety is they keep you up with the traffic." lol Really? No, they don't.
I've bought a Trex e-bike 4 years ago. I've ridden 1800 miles. I love my e-bike.
I've just got an ebike, after 35 years not driving/riding. I used to ride bikes (pedal and motorbike) a lot when younger. My ebike is terrifying. I'm still trying to work out how to turn safely, without the power slaming on before being at the apex of the corner. The way the power comes on is _very_ different from any petrol driven vehicle I drove in the past. So much low speed torque!
@johnfoster all eBikes are different so I don’t know how this suggestion would translate to your bike and situation. My ebike has 6 “modes” with race being the fastest -which also means it’s more likely to lurch forward unpredictably and accelerate faster.
When I’m around people and heavy traffic I set it to 1 or 2 so it’s slower and not so jumpy.
Maybe there’s an online Ebike support group with your brand where you can discuss the issue you’re having with them?
All the Best.
Sounds like you decided to buy some low grade Chinese crap? I've tried more than ten different high quality ("western") E-bikes, they were all constructed to drive safely in more than one way.
Don't just buy first or cheapest offer!
Thanks mate, about to start a new journey in life on the E bike revolution and looking forward to it. Cannot wait to hit the open trails and explore
Here’s a tip from a 71 yr old who rides daily and will resist/refuse to go electric as long as possible. Everyone has heard the saying “you never forget how to ride a bicycle”. I’ve observed that isn’t true of those who have found a renewed love of cycling with e-assist. You never rode a bike that weighs 50-70 lbs at 20 mph. I rarely ride without being buzzed by e-bike riders wobbling into my lane.
In Oregon we conform with California's system, 20 mph limit with throttle assist, 28 with pedal assist (group 3). 20 is plenty for suburban street riding and trails.
Also pedal assist is separated into 4 or 5 levels, usually (from low to high assist) Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo, and Boost (if there's 5). Each makes pedaling a little easier, but uses up the battery faster. You can turn off the assist altogether, but it does make the bike feel very heavy, at least with all the bikes I've ridden.
😊I’ve been riding bikes since a youngster like all kids. At twenty I bought a Fugi, then a Giant, Trek, another Giant, Schwinn and so forth. Then at 76, I bought a Himiway. Didn’t take long to take a digger. As you said, overconfidence did me in. I had 140,000 miles on regular bikes since 1968. I had all the answers. Two rotator surgeries and a wrist plus lots of generalized healings. But at 80, I love to ride. The weight and the power scares me since my two surgeries. I loved your video as you hit it on the head. Now everything is thought in advance. I’m going to read about your bike now, so thank you.
Oh man wish I seen this video before I bought my E-bike , you covered a lot of my questions in this one video. I live in Sacramento and I didn’t know that E-bikes are not allowed on bike trails. I was going to use mine to get to fishing spots along the American river and the Sacramento River. I got a class 2 bike and all I can drive it on the bike lane on the roads and people in cars sure don’t look for bikes.I took my bike to Gibson Ranch park near me so I can get the hang of it before I hit the streets with it. Thank you again for this video.
Sensational vid dude. Just what I needed to back up what I have researched myself. Really good to know I was on the mark, this has made me happy to order my choice tonight. Cheers
Here's some things I would add or add onto being a decade long ebike owner of many different bikes.
To add about battery fires etc....But a fireproof/explosion proof bag or container. For like 25 USD you can get one that fits all single batteries from an ebike and maybe two but I'd store separate like I do. I'm not sure what a box would cost but the bad for me is perfect. Make sure it fully closes. Some sold are bs and have big gaps on the side air can get in which fire needs...Mine for 25 dollars has a zipper and velcro.
Next is buy at least one GPS chip if not two or three depending on how much you're invested in your bike. Plus each ones uses different protocols and one in one situation might not work. For eg Airtags need something running iOS near the chip to follow it. So I suggest two kinds at least.
Then there's a bike cover if leaving out locked. It's shows that bike thieves many times skip over bikes that are covered. It's a cheap added security measure. Get even a cheap security system.
I also really suggest is ebike insurance from a reputable company. Your car insurer probably already has it that you can check out and maybe bundle. It's usually under 100 USD a year. Mine is 65 a year and it covers what I paid for my bike not what they say it's worth which is important.
Another is that it doesn't hurt to get a couple more LED lights to run whenever you're riding. Get a loud horn with a button by your hand with easy access if someone is pulling in front of you or drifting into you etc.
Get mirrors. At least a left side one to see cars coming up on you. VERY big help keeping alive. All those ppl on their phones drift a ton.
Decide what you need for safety gear. But at the least you need a good ebike or mountain bike helmet. Even a skateboard ramp helmet is great if you have one. The ones racers use aren't good for safety. You want one that covers the back of your skull well. And don't buy cheap Chinese crap from Amazon for 20 dollars. Spend at least 60 from a good known company that's been around. Like Bell, Smith, Schwinn, Base Camp just for some eg. It's your head, that you can't live without. Mine has saved me twice in 5years(hit by ladies on their phones). Came out with broken hips and other assd bones and scrapes and broken bikes by my helmets took hits and saved my head. No joke. It's not if, it's when someone on their phone clips you, pulls out in front of you as you're going down a road, drifts into you in traffic or outright hits you head on.
Which is why I also suggest always wearing a GoPro or grab a Garmin mini to record while riding in case you're hit and they run or lie.
Wow so many things to consider thanks
Great reply that should be pinned to the top! By any chance, do you have links to the fire proof battery bags, bike cover, and helmet you use that you would recommend?
Great post. I will add that battery fires happen with cheap batteries without UL certification. reputable bike brand that uses only high-quality well tested batteries something to keep in mind
This has just about persuaded me out of buying a bike. I quit riding motorcycles when my BMW (battery is under the gas tank) battery exploded and burnt my carport down with my brand new car next to my mc. I quit riding after that until now. I wanted to start riding for exercise and strengthen my back/core. But this list has me strongly considering not riding. Wow.
Brilliant post! Thank you so much for the advice!
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How I wish videos like this was available when I got my e-bike! I knew nothing and nearly killed myself two or three times. Two major wipeouts and several minor ones!! So, in my infinite wisdom, after the first accident, I watched a video on e-bike mountain biking, it was a Godsend! Also, learning to use the throttle to start off with instead of having your bike in assist 1 or whatever, use the throttle until I get going and have my balance, then, I let off of the throttle and start peddling. Weight is another issue. Mine is a fat bike and is very heavy and difficult for me and my short stature to fold and get in the trunk of my car, so, ended up getting a carrier for the car instead. I still love my bike, but, have ordered a 26” commuter bike with narrower tires and somewhat lighter. Wish me luck. Thank you for the video, very helpful.
Thanks for the great video! My son and I are on the verge of buying our first ebikes, and this helped a lot.
Great info! Thanks. One thing I'd add is that there are some useful small ebikes that have fixed, nonremovable batteries. I have one (Jetson Bolt Pro). It was only $400. It's good for errands around the neighborhood. Just something for people to think about when purchasing an ebike.
I'm going to add my knowledge into this.
As far as I know, most people should learn and review the laws regarding E-bikes at a state level first. Why? Because most states have a constitutional provision that prohibits localities and municipalities from making their own rules. Basically, it's the idea of a general law applying to an entire state, versus a state law only applying to one specific place within a state (e.g., applying a law to Michigan rather than only Detroit).
That being said, I live in Michigan. After reviewing Michigan law, the only places E-bikes are completely banned state-wide are Mackinac State Park on Mackinac Island, and any other trails or parks with native soil terrain (i.e., dirt trails). These "native soil" trails have no crushed stone or asphalt pathway.
Even then, E-bikes up to Class 2 can be used on any park trail or rail-trail without issue, while a park or trail authority can prohibit or limit Class 3 E-bikes.
Otherwise, E-bikes are considered just like regular bicycles while being used. Meaning, obey the rules of the road. This also means local authorities cannot ban or prohibit E-bikes, as doing so usurps the state legislative authority. Lastly, because E-bikes must have functioning pedals, there is no license requirement for any E-bike in Michigan. If you do not have functional pedals, then you are considered to be on an electric moped or an electric scooter. At which point, you would need lights (headlamp, taillamp, turn signals) and a motorcycle endorsement for an equivalent motor output of 11.1 kilowatts, as this is equivalent to a 125 cc, 15 hp moped or scooter.
I converted my recumbent bike to electric. Mounting the battery was a challenge because of limited space, but other than that it was fairly simple with a few tools including a crank removal tool ànd a 15mm pedal wrench. It's really exciting to ride and safer than a regular bike because you can keep up with city traffic. But as usual be careful and attentive to cars and road conditions. Also remember to slow down for turns! Have fun!
I own an Ebike. It's now 10 years old, one thing that fails is the batteries fail and you want a bike that the battery isn't single sourced. If you buy the generic battery later on you can buy a bigger pack that just slides into place. They can cost 1/2 the price of single sourced batteries.
I would stay away from mid-drive Ebikes. It seems like they have more issues than Ebikes with hub motors. All the friends with Mid-drives have converted to hubs now and I am no longer repairing/adjusting the bikes.
#12 - Be prepared to do your own fixes and periodic maintenance. Local bike shops aren't likely to touch your e-bike if you didn't purchase it from them or your warranty period has expired.
I found that to be completely untrue. Like everyone else, ebike stores need work and money I haven't found one that was so snooty as to turn down the work because I didn't purchase it from them
Some bike shops are rather busy in the riding season, try to get any work needed finished in the off season
Yup, June July bike shops are slammed lol. I'd wait until September October to have work done or be prepared to wait quite some time@@tsmi5807
Just a thought here about charging , and that is probably a rule that should be followed with any rechargeable battery , and that is , if your battery has just been working hard and is hot , give it some time to cool down before throwing it on the charger , apart from the safety aspect I suspect it will also help prolong the life of your battery.
Very helpful... thanks for the SAFETY reminder tips! Cheers!
Another point is the cost of accessories. I bought a 1000w mid drive last years for 3k$. Two months after receiving it, I added 1k more in protections, clothing, lights, repair tools, grease and oil.
Loved all the info. only wished I had found you all before I bought the bikes we have, I feel now more than ever, that I should have gotten one of your bikes. I can not even get on the last one I bought, not tall enough, and I know now that I should have gotten one with a low step-through area.
Just did the first proper ride on my newly acquired Cannondale Habit ebike. Absolutely brilliant piece of kit. 50 mile round trip on a converted old rail track which was quite broken up and flooded in sections. Didn't need more than Eco mode most of the way and still had two bars of battery capacity left at the end.
You don’t need throttle if you’re quite old.you get what you paid for. Most often than not it’s the user who’s dangerous.
Capacity of battery is actually WATT HOURS: Amp hours × Voltage.
Nice little commentary on e-bikes. I'm just getting involved with the e-bikes, although I've been a cyclist most of my life, this is a new venture for me. You broke it down nicely. Thanks
I do not own an E-bike yet , just looking for information when I came across your video , thank you answered a lot of my questions!!
Love mine, but don't buy Pedego.
Excellent video, and you keep things very basic and simple, which is important for
people that no nothing about these bikes. Very helpful to me. Be great to do a
a video on buying a "used e bike" like how to test for battery life etc.
Tip number 12 on an ebike.......its fast so be prepared to eat a lot of Insects at the fast speed and wear glasses so they dont go into your eyes......think what a car windscreen looks like after a long journey
I was just surfing around and found the channel, but what great information. This is the info that someone gives when they have spent a shitload of time on an ebike. Just bought the Level.2 with an extra battery, cant wait to get out there.
Thanks for your informative video.
You touched on many good things. I have been working within the bike industry since 1991 and I love the e-bike revolution. However that being said I am worried about the dangers of the e-bikes.
I have lived through many high speed crashes in Lycra, gloves and a helmet. Was injured for a year back in the late 80's from a 32 MPH crash.
Can you make a video on what people do to make themselves safer on an e-bike. Clothing, lights, traffic?
Thanks again for the video.
Looking forward to you next one.
In Europe you cannot legally go beyond 250W. The assist can also only happen at speeds up to 25 km/h.
Yeah but not a single cop gives a fuck about bikes or ebikes, if you are riding safely. I have a 1200 w ebike in Austria and never got stopped by any police..
Thanks for this information. I've just bought my first ebike. And I see, I chose the right bike, which matches all your criteria. I've been riding bicycles all my life, so I've come to the same conclusions as you did. The only thing you missed, in my opinion, is the weight of the ebike. It affects not only control of the bike, but also handling the bike: carrying it into and from the basement, or some other place, carrying it over a trench or a log of wood or a rock on your way. I think, the ebike should weight under 60lb so it can be handled more or less comfortably.
I had an e-bike. A new Cannondale. I'm not criticizing Cannondale. The bike performed as it should. However, this lightweight e-bike had no suspension and skinny tires. That may be OK for younger people, but it was a disaster for me (I'm in my 70s). I ride on rail-to-trails, and these trails, while paved, are often bumpy with asphalt ripples and bulges. E-bikes go much faster than regular bikes - 15-20 mph versus 10-12 mph for a regular bike. I pedaled hard AND used the motor, so I was traveling at 15-18 mph all the time. The impact of crossing asphalt bumps and ripples at that speed with no suspension caused internal injuries. After a few rides, I experienced devastating, agonizing pain. I had MRIs and other tests which identified no direct cause. However, I still had agonizing back and side pain with movement. I gave up riding the e-bike and started seeing a physical therapist. It took three months to resolve whatever injury was causing my pain. I lost a whole summer recovering. After recovery, I decided to sell the e-bike. I took a $1,000+ loss. I replaced the e-bike with a standard pedal bicycle, a Giant Cypress DX. The Giant bike had front suspension and a sprung seat post. Long story short, since buying the Giant bike, I have had no recurrence of any pain. The last couple years have been my best bike years ever. I ride virtually every day now and have done thousands of miles. I have had great workouts. I will never ride another e-bike.
A quality suspension seat post is a game changer on any bike for improving the jaring effect to the spine. I added a suspension seatpost to a road bike, for a small weight added it added huge gains in comfort. Another thing that helps is not to run maximum tire pressure, put enough air in the tires to support the weight of you and your bike - do not overinflate to max pressure on tire.
I am in Arizona, it gets hot-120 degrees or more! I don't have the luxury of air conditioning, is that too hot for an ebike?
I believe the number one thing you should know before buying a e-bike is the difference between cadence assist and toque assist. Big difference. Toque assist is much safer and it pedals just like a regular bike. Cadence assist you don’t need any force on the pedals, just a little movement of the crank and the bike will jump forward. Toque assist is a smooth acceleration forward. Especially when turning a cadence e-bike will accelerate without peddling if you slightly move the crank. Test ride both and you will definitely feel the difference.
This is good to know, thank you!
A friend had her rental ebike jump away from her while just turning the bike around to get on it.
When I get on or off my Wired Freedom, I have made it my habit to always put the PAS into 0 mode.
That way the bike won't move accidently if my hand is on the throttle for stability.
I got an ebike with the purpose of riding it like a motorcycle and really didnt even know about "pedal assist", now that I know the joys of it, I really only use the throttle to get up and going from a dead stop. I have learned all of the speed is in pedal assist not the throttle.
Excellent pointers.
And I can understand you. 😊
Thanks Again.
I love my standard hybrid very low maintenance and I get a great workout. I’m semi retired and I’m still in good shape. I love hills. I’m never in a hurry I stop a lot. I’ve had my bike for many years. I’m ok with some modern technology but I also love simplicity! My bike weighs about 15 pounds. I commute with my bike 3 days a week. Maybe when I’m older and I’m out of shape and need some help I’ll consider an e bike. But for now I’m fine.
One thing I would add that would have been nice to know is that buying LOCALLY ( if you can get the STYLE you want ….. I had some issues with the bike I purchased from across the country…. ( the battery lock that keeps the battery from disconnecting from the tray was broken and laying on the bottom of the box …. It took 4 months for them to send the new tray that the lock is attached to …. And then b4 i figured out for my self how to remove the seat and unplug the wires located under the seat … I went to several e-bike shops and called others NONE of them wanted to do the repairs telling me they ONLY work on bikes they sell .. and one suggested he might do it but would charge by the hour ( on a bike he’s not familiar with ) I’m thinking PAD the hours ! Luckily I figured out how to reattach the wires and STUFF them back in their place …. It took nearly a year b4 I was able to ride it ( because of my work schedule ) Even though I had a bumpy beginning I am VERY PLEASED with my purchase…, but this will let folks know the problems that can arise when a bike is shipped from elsewhere .
Where do you live man? All the ebike shops I went to need work and money like everyone else. No one has been Snooty enough to say you have to buy the bike here. As far as padding hours... That's a risk you take anywhere with mechanics, I have found most to be honest and good.
The edit is, most brick and mortar ebike stores have an extremely limited supply and choices of bikes. They are well aware of the online competition, which is why they are fine with working on them.
When I asked a bike shop if they work on bikes from online purchases, they told me they will, but the requirement is that the customer leaves the battery at home in case of fire.
Anything is dangerous, the military made me dangerous. Your right, e-bikes are not analog bikes. Even a pedal assist bike while on can jump if you push the pedal!! I’m on my second class 1 e-bike specialized Levo comp. Pedal Assist. So, motor and battery life are factors as well the over all class of e-bike and what you intend to do with the e-bike. Good info your provided! The warranty is very important!
It's like anything... I wish I would have researched 11 things before buying a motorcycle.. now I'm partially disabled 😅
I put about 3500 miles on my ebike every year the thing that I have most problems with is the batteries go bad so I just buy a a new ebike every year because they want 500.00 just for the battery and I need new brakes and tires by then to
Your batteries should be lasting much longer. At least 5 years. Do you store them drained?
Ever considered buying quality equipment, and enjoying the outcome? 👀🙄
Some of those hills in downtown San Francisco will probably be too much for most adults to handle with only 750W of assistance.
Thank you very much! I’m thinking about buying EBIKE and now gathering for information. Your video is the most detailed and loconic at the same time, and because of this is very helpful. Subscribed right away after watching. Many times when I watch some TH-cam videos I felt as I just loosing my time. It’s definitely not about yours. Thanks again!.
I’m looking at buying an E trike in the near future. Great video, thank you
Ive been storing all my lipo batteries in military ammo containers in the oven. Its peace of mind when im away, and when sleeping.
Great video. Thank you.
Throttle is allowed in Europe, but only up to 5km/h , basically as park assist.
The size of the motor is also limited in Europe. In the Netherlands a normal pedal asist motor has max power of 250W
Seems like some new ebike owners want to "hack" the controller to increase the motor cut-off 5-15 mph faster. Not realizing the suspension, tires, and braking systems are really designed for the original for Class I/II/III category. Another issue I wish I researched more was warranty and servicing of an ebike. You might have a 1-2 year warranty; but, it might be hard to make a claim because of poor customer service, delay in overseas part shipment, or you need to provide the labor yourself to replace. You have to ready to turn a wrench, service more often, and get your hands dirty with an ebike if you want it running for years. Most I've done with my old pedal bikes was fix a flat, clean the chain, update the saddle, or add a handle bar riser.
Lot of good points made in this video. The biggest thing I see with these e-bikes is the drivers are not yielding to pedestrians on sidewalks and paths. I been clipped several times by ebikes and hit 3 times in my life by just pedal bikes. I seen mothers grabbing their kids of the sidewalk as a bike zips by. Getting hit by a 225 lb driver and bike doing 16 mph is the same force as you jumping off a 20 foot roof. That is a lot of force you are controlling and you need to teach your kids that they can hurt someone very seriously.
I got my first e-bike almost 4 years ago. When learning how to control it (and practicing tricks on it) I ended up crashing it 3 times. 2 while stunting and 1 time I got hit by a car pulling out of a driveway while on a sidewalk. 2 and a half years ago I got my second e-bike and it is a lot more competent. It feels like a true power e-bike in its hay day I would be pushing 30 mph on it and it has turn signals and brake lights and truly feels a lot safer to ride in a city. When I got it I haven’t tried stunting on it once, it’s a lot more of a proper road bike. Sadly last November I got hit by a truck on it at a crosswalk, he turned into me. When the accident happened it split my front fork in half and my turn axle on my front wheel but even after that beating my bike has been a loyal steed. I’m getting the axle and fork repaired tomorrow sadly I don’t have the tools to do the repairs but I did get the parts :D
Sounds like most comments are left by clueless and inexperienced USAmericans living in wild West conditions... while riding dangerous low grade Chinese crap cycles.. 👀☠️
I’ve been on eBikes since 2009 as a mobile service. My injuries in San Francisco as follows:
2011 - Doored: severely bruised arm
2012 - Car clipped front tire at 25 mph: broken femur (two places), broken clavicle, broken ribs, nerve damage in arm.
2015 - Broken shoulder (Slipped on rainy day over thick paint on street)
Since then the bike lanes are safer now.
San Francisco is no place to ride any kind of bike.
Good advice. Have had a great experience over the last 4years. You always have to be on the defensive. Along with the helmet you should always have a left rear view mirror to see what is going on behind you. Good ebiking ...all the best...Chris 🇨🇦
The biggest problem with e-bike charging is to use a good charger. Please stay away from the $ 10 to 40 dollar Amazon chargers. Use a factory replacement charger from the manufacturer. They are rated for your battery. I have seen some ok chargers from Amazon but not good enough to leave my battery on it. Once an e-bike battery starts to burn there is no putting it out.
Luna charger adjustable amps and % of charge desired $100 .
Depends what country you are in 250 watt is the limit legally on public roads in UK and Europe.
joke 250 only enough to turn a food mixer lol. not even half of horse power.
Yea it's a strange law. I once hit 39mph on my mountain bike about 26 years ago at the age of 14. I'm sure most fit adults could do over 40mph just pedalling ✌🏼
You stated that 250Watt assist motor is good for a couple-mile trip.
Sylvia of "Travel by Trike" crossing America on 250Watt with Rohloff hub on her trike.
Huge 390lb NFL-size rider here.
250Watt with Rohloff hub on my delta trike.
250Watt is the legal maximum limit on many bicycle paths!
Have geared hub 250Watt front wheel on a delta planform trike too.
How can you do a video like this and not mention hub motors versus mid mount motors? One turns the wheel while the other turns the crank. The mid mount motor lets your motor use the rear gears as a transmission which is a huge advantage. A hub motor is good for novices on fairly flat ground but a more serious rider will almost always prefer the crank motor.
Here's one - they are HEAVY!! I get really frustrated that I can't load and unload my Aventon onto the rack by myself. I'd love to take it out to my local wildlife refuge or to the beach by myself but I just can't do it. Takes two.
I built a simple e bike ramp so that my wife could load her 70 lb pedigo boomerang onto our rack on an SUV. It may take some engineering, but you can find videos related to the building of a rack on TH-cam.
I am totally with you on this. I just bought a Marin Presidio 3 - it's about 27 lbs, but my Aventon Level is 55 lbs. You expect ebikes to weigh more but you don't expect they are twice the weight of a regular bike.
Even with a bike rack that has a ramp? You can get one that has a ramp then use the throttle to help it up the ramp. check into it.
Great video - thank you; e-bikes are dangerous is right on; I accidentally hit the throttle of my e-bike and I landed in the hospital; my helmet cracked and the e-bike frame had fallen apart! I still e-bike.
Great vid. Got two e-bikes love them both. Ist and 2nd Generation.
64 yr old male, been riding bikes and dirt bikes since 4 yrs old. Bought a dual motor (750W ea.) 20" fat. These bikes are relatively heavy (mine70lbs). I highly recommend hydraulic/disc breaks. I shopped/researched bikes for weeks to find the one that fit my needs...lights (including head, turn and break), large spring seat, dual suspension, USB & iPhone mount, mirrors, fenders, throttle and LED instrument cluster. Charger shuts off when full. ($1,500.00 delivered) I live up in the hills of Grand Terrace Ca.
Any questions? Feel free....
Did I miss the brand? Oh my God someone like you would make me crazy hahaha okay I feel free I'm asking WHAT BRAND 😂
Yes, would like to know too.
Did you die?
My bike was bought second hand. The pedal assist works in 1,2,3,4,5. The throttle does not work at all. Not sure why and I have discovered that it is nearly impossible to have a bike shop work on it. :-(
Super helpful video. Thank you. You raise a lot of good points, and issues I wasn’t aware of. 🌟✨💫
my wife and i are 70 yo we bought e bikes and we luv them, we used to ride mountain bikes but we live in the part of Texas where the hills are long and tall so we cant ride regular bike any more but the E-bikes scoot right up the hills. I weigh 260 so i got one with 2 battery's and a 1000 watt crank moter.
The one think you forgot is Rear hub motor or mid drive motor. Rear hub motors are cheaper compared to a mid drive. Usually a midrive has no throttle.
I bought a Lectric mid drive (premium) and it has a throttle.
I loved the idea of hub drive so much, that I also bought an Ariel Rider Grizzly with dual 1000w hub motors…
Love them both!
I have been on a lot of trails with my E Bike and I have never seen any "Bike Policing" checking to see who riding what type of bike. My main riding trail has a sign saying "Pedal Assist only". Yet I have seen many riding Throttle only bikes and Gas powered bikes.
Thanks for this video. Very informative 👍
Yes, no BS, it is hell of dangerous of the Cars around times you ride of having either of you or car driver at fault. I know this out of many close encounters of my age of experience of riding bikes in traffic . I always ride SAFER THAN SORRY and ALWAYS pull up a bit when getting into intersections of roads crossing, especially cars turning in the street you are on before crossing intersections. CARS just dont expect bikers TO BE AROUND. THEY KNOW OF us BUT RAELY COME ACROSS OF BEING USED TO NOT HAVING IN MIND OF A POSSIBLE BIKER AROUND THE CORNER. The technical issues of danger is always there and do takes a responsible well minded person with common sense of being aware of the use of e bikes..
just bought a 500 watt longhorn handlebar sit upright regular size wheel deal! I am 69 years and 267 lbs. looking for 225, the lbs I have allways carried around. delivery is on its way. if ya care to know. I'll let you know after 9-22-2023.
Throttle is dangerous to me.I like my e-bike .I have a 500 watt and I keep an eyes on the battery and know how long I can ride in a one charge.I get get more if I ride on Eco mode vs Turbo.peoples need to do research before buying.Charge it at night and where I live can get hot in the garage and I leave my battery in my bike ,so far no problem.But I am starting to bring it inside when temperatures hot 100 F
E-Bikes are heavy and can really do a number on your muscles if pull up on it, turn to fast, keep it from tipping over, even lift it up too fast on a curve. They are really not as fun to ride as a nice fast light bike.
Wow this was good information. I haven’t bought my E bike yet. I’m shopping right now and decided to check out advice on TH-cam and here you are! Had to subscribe. Thank you so much! 🚴