This drill is fantastic. Provides the "ball on a string" feel you sometimes hear about because of the momentum. Add the hanger for wrist conditions (which makes it simpler to visualize what the wrists need to do as compared to the impact snap)and wow!
I have trouble shallowing my downswing so this is a great drill for me. I kept hitting the bucket on my backswing and in order to miss it I felt like I was moving my hands too far to the outside. I moved the bucket and concentrated on keeping my backswing wider than normal and that helped me drop the club inside from the top. Thanks for this great drill!
This has helped me tremendously! Thanks Eric! I'm hitting ball more consistently and for the first time feel like I am on the right path. I have not played in about 6 years, but have been going to the range for the 3 or 4 months and this particular lesson along with some of your other lessons are beginning to pay off.
Been coming over the top for years now !…..really good video, drill and instruction. Went to range used the ball basket exactly as you say - hello baby draw with great ball flight. Many thanks.
Eric your tips are great, straightforward easy to understand. Ive been plating 21 years 8 handicap and very very close to quitting the game for good, dead serious.
This one move had changed my golf swing!! So clever and so easy. I literally watched your video went into my garden and practised a figure of 8 my next three rounds came down by 8 shots!!! My irons and my woods and my driver!! So simple but the most amazing move. Thank you
I had seen a video talking about this some time ago but never gave it much thought until recently. Totally transformed by ability and confidence on the downswing. I wish this had been explained or shown to me 25 years ago. Its so simple. Everyone should practice this.
I'm working on finding different things to shallow and stop coming over the top. Tried this with a soccer ball in the backyard and feels very easy to do. Will take it to the range and hit balls with this method. Hope it helps.
Soccer ball should work great---good one! hope this one helps. Its exaggerated for sure.....but if you're someone who goes too far INSIDE on the BACKSWING which leads to that over the top then FLIPPING that and doing the exact opposite should help change the motion of the shaft Key here is the SHAFT goes OUTSIDE here.....NOT THE HANDS Hope that helps
I look at all your videos. Very sound advice. Just wanted to share my latest attempt to shallow the club. I habitually have a steep downswing when there is a ball in front of me. Take it away and I can shallow the club. On video my right hand stands up out of extension at the top of the swing. It's the "hit" impulse to the max. I've taken two years of lessons at Golf Tec, and no disrespect to them, I still have a steep downswing and can't hit a draw. Today I was fooling around with my grip and found a (possible) correction to my problem. I placed my left hand in a very strong (four knuckle) position, my right closer to neutral, the V aimed at my right eye. To my amazement, my left hand didn't allow the right to push it over and the club shallowed nicely. I still have to work on setup and ball position because the ball was starting straight and moving left, but I'm encouraged. Will have to wait and see if it works on the golf course. Have you run across this in any of your students?
Hey Dan! I would really need to see your before grip and action to confirm what's really going on compared to what you are explaining here. I would also have to see the second grip (where it is compared to what you feel) and see... I have seen a lot of different combinations of grips effect wrist angles and consequentially effect shaft angles.
This a fantastic drill, great video. Something you can do to compliment it, is to stand a fraction open to the target, and you'll feel like in order to hit target, you have to get on the inside even more.
This is a great drill. It is the best way to get the feel for shallowing. I’ve done it with a cone but basically the same this is more descrete on the Range lol 👌🏼
Excellent instruction Eric. I have been playing for 30 years, presently off 3 handicap, but have never really been a student of the swing, never had a lesson and relied purely on feel. However, I can see in this, where my early extension comes from. My swing is exactly what you are trying to cure here. Club head in line with the hands in the takeaway...GOOD...BUT...shaft under the forearm!!! Downswing, the shaft is over the forearm and too steep...and I'm pretty sure that this is the primary cause of my early extension and inconsistency when my timing is off...would you agree?
Thanks Neil! It certainly could be! Would need to see your swings on video to say for sure without any guessing👍 If you don't get it sorted, send us your swings at www.cogornogolf.com and we can fix easily!
Great drill, Eric. I find shallowing the driver with teed up ball is essential and greatly enhances my drives however with my irons I can get quite steep (still approaching from the inside) and hit flush draws. Do you find shallowing is more important for driver vs irons?
Thanks! I would say big picture...it's equally important. Since we are wanting to swing from low and inside and hit UP on the driver, one could argue there's more importance there👍
Great drill Eric..I have a problem with swallowing out the club.not bad with iron..but not to good with driver!..can you do this drill with driver?..thanks
@@CogornoGolf I dare say none of your students can hook the cover off the ball the way I can at times …but i enjoy doing the shallowing drills anyway. I have the hardest time Fading and Slicing.
Hey Eric, some days I can hit the ball really well with the figure 8 feel and sometimes it causes me skank. And reasons why sometimes doing this feel would cause a a slight hozzle strike ?
Hey Eric, you know what’s interesting? I have the opposite issue. If I try to promote a very intentional draw, I’ll take the club away a bit too inside, but in the downswing that correlates to a perfectly shallow swing. Whereas if I takeaway directly back (my normal straight shot) or even outside (to exaggerate a fade), my downswing nets out much steeper. How can I approach fixing this?
If the inside takeaway leads to a perfect downswing.....I would just do that....and be OK with the takeaway being inside. Inside takeaway ONLY a problem IF it causes downswing issues....for you it doesn't....so all good!
Hey Eric, I did this at the range and it felt great, but I took it to the course and I think I forgot to keep rotating my body with my arms connected. Instead I just took my arms back and tried to do the movement you described in the video. Can that cause a slice? Because I was bombing it right all day haha. I even bottomed out my driver a couple times. It felt like I didn't have room is a good way to describe it.
Hey Josh! Thanks for watching! Hard to say 100% without seeing your swing on video...but since it was working great on the range, I'd start with these two videos below to help with that slice and connection piece: th-cam.com/video/wBgHjqFYIbg/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/v6vJ3lCjN1s/w-d-xo.html Let us know if these help you out!
@@CogornoGolfhey man, irons are great… but my driver I’m 3-4 degrees down… no matter how many lessons or practice, I can’t hit up… Using a callaway td ls.. Swing speed is 108-116 Ball speed 160 But need to get spin down… Should I bring down loft, or add loft? Certain shafts u suggest for steep hitters? I’m currently using velocore tr 6x.
Hey CK! I would not say YES or NO across the board....depends on the player. What it should do is "shock " the system into a new swing plane! Step 1! Hard to fix EE when the downswing is still steep....EE is a shallowing move....the brain does it too FIX something earlier. Have to fix that first usually
Hey Richard! If you OVERDO the shallowing and swing TOO FAR from in to out, then the fats and thins can easily come into play. Use video feedback and confirm where you are and adjust. If you don't get it sorted, send us your videos at cogornogolf.com so we can work together and put together a plan to fix it! Here's a video you may find helpful: th-cam.com/video/EmXw-YeD324/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared Thanks for your support!
Thanks Richard! When you shallow it does in fact move the low point of the swing BACK......so you have to make sure you ROTATE enough with it (belt buckle and chest/right shoulder to target)
This seems to be one of those drills that does not work. Lots of people on the internet try to explain the golf swing using words to describe the motion without actually describing what the body needs to do. We control our body directly, not the club. The jargon used is so cliché that it has no meaning.
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I'm gonna pump that basket 145 up the middle of the range.
Lol just don't go and pick it up!
I hit a basket further than any ball! :-(
Excellent drill, I’m going to do this today at the range. I think it might even be a good warm up drill for every practice session !
Hope it helps Jay!
This drill is fantastic. Provides the "ball on a string" feel you sometimes hear about because of the momentum. Add the hanger for wrist conditions (which makes it simpler to visualize what the wrists need to do as compared to the impact snap)and wow!
Thank you!
I have trouble shallowing my downswing so this is a great drill for me. I kept hitting the bucket on my backswing and in order to miss it I felt like I was moving my hands too far to the outside. I moved the bucket and concentrated on keeping my backswing wider than normal and that helped me drop the club inside from the top. Thanks for this great drill!
You got it! Its quite an exaggerated drill....but a lot of times thats exactly what we need to get change started!
This is the best teaching of the shallowing sequence I have seen.. Thank U so much for this video.
You got it Kare---thanks!
Watched this and straight to the range WOW it was so simple and effortless swing with best ball flight I’ve ever hit in years.
Love to hear it Kent!
This has helped me tremendously! Thanks Eric! I'm hitting ball more consistently and for the first time feel like I am on the right path. I have not played in about 6 years, but have been going to the range for the 3 or 4 months and this particular lesson along with some of your other lessons are beginning to pay off.
Love to hear this Barry!! Our pleasure!
Been coming over the top for years now !…..really good video, drill and instruction. Went to range used the ball basket exactly as you say - hello baby draw with great ball flight. Many thanks.
Yes! Lets go!!
Eric your tips are great, straightforward easy to understand. Ive been plating 21 years 8 handicap and very very close to quitting the game for good, dead serious.
Hope this helps keep you playing and enjoying the game Tom!
This one move had changed my golf swing!! So clever and so easy. I literally watched your video went into my garden and practised a figure of 8 my next three rounds came down by 8 shots!!! My irons and my woods and my driver!! So simple but the most amazing move. Thank you
Love it!! Our pleasure!
I had seen a video talking about this some time ago but never gave it much thought until recently. Totally transformed by ability and confidence on the downswing. I wish this had been explained or shown to me 25 years ago. Its so simple. Everyone should practice this.
I have been doing this for a while and there is a significant benefit. Many thanks for these great tips.
Thanks, Rich!
Great video!!! Watched it took it too the range and was consistently hitting the sweet spot. Thanks for the help.
Love to hear that David! Thanks for being here with us!
I'm working on finding different things to shallow and stop coming over the top. Tried this with a soccer ball in the backyard and feels very easy to do. Will take it to the range and hit balls with this method. Hope it helps.
Soccer ball should work great---good one!
hope this one helps. Its exaggerated for sure.....but if you're someone who goes too far INSIDE on the BACKSWING which leads to that over the top then FLIPPING that and doing the exact opposite should help change the motion of the shaft
Key here is the SHAFT goes OUTSIDE here.....NOT THE HANDS
Hope that helps
@@CogornoGolf That helps a lot and I'm definitely one who goes inside too much.
Exactly what I’ve been trying to feel but never would have thought about the bucket. Thanks!!
You got it :)
I look at all your videos. Very sound advice. Just wanted to share my latest attempt to shallow the club. I habitually have a steep downswing when there is a ball in front of me. Take it away and I can shallow the club. On video my right hand stands up out of extension at the top of the swing. It's the "hit" impulse to the max. I've taken two years of lessons at Golf Tec, and no disrespect to them, I still have a steep downswing and can't hit a draw. Today I was fooling around with my grip and found a (possible) correction to my problem. I placed my left hand in a very strong (four knuckle) position, my right closer to neutral, the V aimed at my right eye. To my amazement, my left hand didn't allow the right to push it over and the club shallowed nicely. I still have to work on setup and ball position because the ball was starting straight and moving left, but I'm encouraged. Will have to wait and see if it works on the golf course. Have you run across this in any of your students?
Hey Dan!
I would really need to see your before grip and action to confirm what's really going on compared to what you are explaining here.
I would also have to see the second grip (where it is compared to what you feel) and see...
I have seen a lot of different combinations of grips effect wrist angles and consequentially effect shaft angles.
Fair enough. I'll try it out and keep you posted.
Nice clear simple solution. Thank you.
Thanks! Our pleasure!
Thanks so much. This explains a lot to me about my swing
Our pleasure! Hope it helps your game!
More top quality content from Eric, the guys a beast. Keep it coming EC🤙
Thanks, Michael!
awesome and easy to get feed back. great tip thank you.
Appreciate it Fred! Thanks!
I kept going further and further in and couldn't figure out why I was still coming over the too. Amazing thanks
Glad this one helped!
Great tip! I’ve been using an overturned bucket with an alignment stick too.
Yes like that as well Mark!
This a fantastic drill, great video. Something you can do to compliment it, is to stand a fraction open to the target, and you'll feel like in order to hit target, you have to get on the inside even more.
:) Thank you!
This is a great drill. It is the best way to get the feel for shallowing. I’ve done it with a cone but basically the same this is more descrete on the Range lol 👌🏼
:) Hope it serves your game well my friend!
Great tip I’m definitely going to try! Thank you!
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Excellent instruction Eric. I have been playing for 30 years, presently off 3 handicap, but have never really been a student of the swing, never had a lesson and relied purely on feel. However, I can see in this, where my early extension comes from. My swing is exactly what you are trying to cure here. Club head in line with the hands in the takeaway...GOOD...BUT...shaft under the forearm!!! Downswing, the shaft is over the forearm and too steep...and I'm pretty sure that this is the primary cause of my early extension and inconsistency when my timing is off...would you agree?
Thanks Neil!
It certainly could be! Would need to see your swings on video to say for sure without any guessing👍
If you don't get it sorted, send us your swings at www.cogornogolf.com and we can fix easily!
Love this Drill Eric! Instant results
Love to hear that, Steven! Often times more exaggeration earlier gets the job done faster!
Great drill, Eric. I find shallowing the driver with teed up ball is essential and greatly enhances my drives however with my irons I can get quite steep (still approaching from the inside) and hit flush draws. Do you find shallowing is more important for driver vs irons?
Thanks!
I would say big picture...it's equally important. Since we are wanting to swing from low and inside and hit UP on the driver, one could argue there's more importance there👍
Great drill Eric..I have a problem with swallowing out the club.not bad with iron..but not to good with driver!..can you do this drill with driver?..thanks
Yep!
On Point Video as Usual. Can’t wait to give this one a try.
Hope it helps!
@@CogornoGolf I dare say none of your students can hook the cover off the ball the way I can at times …but i enjoy doing the shallowing drills anyway. I have the hardest time Fading and Slicing.
Haha you would be more on this end of the spectrum with these drills then
th-cam.com/video/BKrxVvyp0_A/w-d-xo.html
Long, high, straight shots, thanks Eric!
:) Our pleasure, Norm!
Hey Eric, some days I can hit the ball really well with the figure 8 feel and sometimes it causes me skank. And reasons why sometimes doing this feel would cause a a slight hozzle strike ?
Hi Anwar!
I'd start here my friend...
th-cam.com/video/B8duKc_lcPQ/w-d-xo.html
Let us know if you have any questions after checking out that video!
Hey Eric, you know what’s interesting? I have the opposite issue. If I try to promote a very intentional draw, I’ll take the club away a bit too inside, but in the downswing that correlates to a perfectly shallow swing. Whereas if I takeaway directly back (my normal straight shot) or even outside (to exaggerate a fade), my downswing nets out much steeper. How can I approach fixing this?
If the inside takeaway leads to a perfect downswing.....I would just do that....and be OK with the takeaway being inside.
Inside takeaway ONLY a problem IF it causes downswing issues....for you it doesn't....so all good!
Thanks,,,I’ll try this outside to in swing….. thanks again,,,,
Our pleasure, Joseph!
Can you do this with a driver? If so should you/how much farther back should you move the bucket? Another 6 inches or so?
Yes, all clubs. Moving the bucket back 6 or so inches would work great👍
Hey Eric, I did this at the range and it felt great, but I took it to the course and I think I forgot to keep rotating my body with my arms connected. Instead I just took my arms back and tried to do the movement you described in the video. Can that cause a slice? Because I was bombing it right all day haha. I even bottomed out my driver a couple times. It felt like I didn't have room is a good way to describe it.
Hey Josh!
Thanks for watching!
Hard to say 100% without seeing your swing on video...but since it was working great on the range, I'd start with these two videos below to help with that slice and connection piece:
th-cam.com/video/wBgHjqFYIbg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/v6vJ3lCjN1s/w-d-xo.html
Let us know if these help you out!
Love this drill is there a way I can get swinging lessons from you alone once a month?
Love it…
How far from bucket with driver?
Thanks
Moving the bucket back 6 or so inches from where it is with irons would work great...hope it helps!
@@CogornoGolf best video on TH-cam.
I also change setting to 12.5 degrees with d setting on td ls.
Straight bombs!
Thank you!
Love it!!
@@CogornoGolfhey man, irons are great… but my driver I’m 3-4 degrees down… no matter how many lessons or practice, I can’t hit up…
Using a callaway td ls..
Swing speed is 108-116
Ball speed 160
But need to get spin down…
Should I bring down loft, or add loft? Certain shafts u suggest for steep hitters?
I’m currently using velocore tr 6x.
Figure 8 = Fred Couples. Looks like he takes away a little outside then back down perfectly. One of my favorite swings.
Pure swing!
Also is this a good drill on driver
Yes, all clubs for this one!
Superb instruction 👏👏👏👏
Appreciate it Chris!
@@CogornoGolf your welcome mate 🙏
Will this be an issue for a early extender? Meaning will it cause an EE to stand up more?
Hey CK!
I would not say YES or NO across the board....depends on the player.
What it should do is "shock " the system into a new swing plane! Step 1!
Hard to fix EE when the downswing is still steep....EE is a shallowing move....the brain does it too FIX something earlier. Have to fix that first usually
Find that shallowing the club makes it harder to have solid ball then ground contact. Fat or almost fat shots. Love your videos.
Hey Richard!
If you OVERDO the shallowing and swing TOO FAR from in to out, then the fats and thins can easily come into play. Use video feedback and confirm where you are and adjust.
If you don't get it sorted, send us your videos at cogornogolf.com so we can work together and put together a plan to fix it!
Here's a video you may find helpful:
th-cam.com/video/EmXw-YeD324/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Thanks for your support!
Thanks Richard! When you shallow it does in fact move the low point of the swing BACK......so you have to make sure you ROTATE enough with it (belt buckle and chest/right shoulder to target)
Also I think this drill really helps with my rhythm and tempo as it keeps my lead arm connected to my chest in the takeaway.
Yes!
WOW THANK YOU!
Our pleasure!
Can we do this drill with driver as well?
Yep
I've been fighting the over the top straight left pull and trying to get more inside out, will give this a try into the ol' practice net.
Hope this exaggerated drill helps get you moving in the right direction!
Going to try this,
Hope it helps!
Same for every club?
Hey Robin! Same idea yep
Great tip!!
Thanks Colby!
found a easy way to shalow feet left open stance shoulder slightly to right shallows out swing went from slice consntant high bpower fade
Great!!
Will this work with my driver too?
Yep
remind me bit of the A swing of Leadbetter
For sure!
same technique with driver?
Yes!
What about with a driver?
Same general idea!
How do you not mention Matt Wolff or Jim Furyk during this video?! :)
Lol true!
..I’m on my third bucket, smashed the first two into pieces, doh
:)
This seems to be one of those drills that does not work. Lots of people on the internet try to explain the golf swing using words to describe the motion without actually describing what the body needs to do. We control our body directly, not the club. The jargon used is so cliché that it has no meaning.
Thanks for your feedback!
That shoe is so soft 😅
:)
Every time I start to think i am "getting it"... instructors change the drills :(
Lol...understood. Please understand this is just ONE drill option and its exaggerated for those that need it!
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Thanks for your feedback!
Too much talking.
Sorry about that---thanks for the feedback!
you can overcomplicate things! too much talk...just show us
Thanks for the feedback.