Easiest Way To Shallow The Shaft In Your Downswing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2023
- Easiest Way To Shallow The Shaft In Your Downswing
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You are not kidding, this has rocked my world. This idea appears to be just what I have been looking for. This works so well for me on the driving range, can't wait to play my next game.
Thank you, thank you. I played today. This such a simple thing and yet, and yet; what an amazing change to my all my long clubs, especially the driver. Slice gone and so much more distance, 20 metres added to my driver, 3 wood is now as long as my driver used to be.
I’ve played golf for 30 years. I’ve been abow to get to scratch and even shoot several rounds in the 60’s. All along the way, the feel of the right arm movement is one I’ve never been able to figure out. I saw you discuss this in one of your livestreams awhile back and then I saw AMG video on this. Honestly, I’ve never pured so many shots so consistently in my life. This understanding of how the right arm works has to be one of the holy grails of the golf swing.
So the first move in the downswing is not pushing off the trail foot or after you drop the trail arm to get proper sequence?
Sure…..😂
The best, simplest and clearest on this subject. Liked and subscribed. Excellent video. Thanks
Such a great video! Kyle always does such an amazing job explaining things and keeping it simple. The best part is he always explains why we are doing things.
I hope the next video goes over the follow through. I know my issue is having either too closed of a club face or too open
Hi Kyle, writing from France to say that I really love this video. I am currently trying to fix my "over the top" and this video is explaining exactly the work I have to do this winter... to be ready for spring 😃
Best swing explanation I’ve seen anywhere!👍
I’ve been watching so many teaching to shallow to club video. This is the final explanation that make me completely understand. Thank you Kyle. This is such a helpful video!!
I can't wait to try this!
The golf room everywhere is an incredible value and I would recommend it to everyone. As a subscriber to the plan, it has everything you need to get better quickly. This is a great video, and explains shallowing in simple terms.
What a great explanation. Been fighting this for a long time and I finally have a feeling in my swing that is simple to get shallow. 👍
Thank you very much. This is the first time I have understood how to shallow the club. Can't wait to try it out on the driving range. My usall swing has been over the top.
Great video and image on how to shallow the club Kyle. I seem to come down too steep and hit the ball on the upper portion of the club. This movement is definitely something I have to work on. Thanks very much. Keep up the good videos.
You are so right! Some of the teaching theories l had seen on TH-cam hurt my back just watching it. It's crazy!
Very good Golf lesson Kyle! Thank you for that awesome explanation ! 😍👏👏👏
Fantastic lesson! Thanks!
Dude, that was fantastic stuff . Thanks
Thanks for the great video, on the way to do some practice!!Love from Taiwan
thats kool kyle, thanks ! a good presentation ,well
put over, and to the point 😊👍
Great video and love that the science backs up this simple move rather than that crazy squat and elbow move. This is so much easier!
That is a great lesson,,,thank you so much,,,,,
Great Video. This is the 1st video I watched that explains it like this. Going to give it a try.
Cheers✌️
Check out the recent video on shallowing pros vs ams by Athletic Motion Golf. This is where Kyle got this information. He messed up the wrist (forearm) part.
Excellent video. Simple, classic golf swing. Easily repeatable, increased consistency. Thanks
Thanks!
Great feeling thx
Thank you very much Kyle this is amaging drill
I've fought over the top my entire life, and I've been at or near scratch for more than 40 years. Lately, I've battled some nagging minor injuries that had my scores and enthusiasm slipping. Your video was so simple that I nearly brushed it aside. It was a good thing I didn't. After about 15 shots while warming up for my next round, your explanation clicked. I went out and shot two under par, and hit some absolutely pure shots. Coincidence? No way! Thanks for a great lesson!
Amazing video!
I think you just unlocked it for me. I can't wait to get out there on the range and try this.
That is one beautiful move thank you.
Great video Kyle. You have a gift for explaining the swing in simple terms. I am personally battling with what I believe are 2 schools. The first "Bender/Morris" style swing with the thought of move the arms down at the ball and just turn the body (obviously happen simultaneously) and the second rotational school which preach turn the body and just let your arms be passive. I conceptually prefer your swing thoughts to the rotational school but struggle with heel shots when I try to implement them due to early extension. Keep up the great work. I'll keep grinding.
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kyle, whoa! i can't believe what a huge difference this shallowing move made for my swing action. i'm not sure exactly what i was doing before but with this simple idea and move the downswing seems automatic.
Nice work steve. Love to hear it.
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Brilliant instructions to help my most frustrating swing fault! I was heartened to find out the great Justin Rose can relate to my struggle😂
Love this video! Is there any danger of over-doing the pressure into the lead side and causing yourself to shift?
just came from another swing video that confused the hell out of me with a million rotations, this is was simple and elegant and got me back on track. bravo.
I wish you could respond with videos on here!!! This is straight 🔥🔥🔥 my impact never looked so good after working this drill, not to mention the shallowing aspect!!! Thank you Kyle 👊🏼👊🏼
Thank you
i stumbled into this by accident, and it was like nervina, but because I didn't realize what i had done, i lost it, at the time it felt like some sort of loop in my swing, this video gets me back on track with an understanding of what needs to be done...thanks for sharing...
Tnx man!
Great video, it looks simple enough, but it is hard to to get it after I have tried to replicate it I struggle with laying down the club, my lower body wants to turn once I get to the top, I have to work on a slight pause. But I am working on it!
I've borrowed a feel from Shawn Clement: I get to the top of the backswing and feel that I'm about to cast a fishing rod in the direction of a person standing on my target line on the trail side. I don't actually make the cast but my arms lower when I begin the transition to the downswing. So far it's working better than anything else I've tried. I'll see what success I can find with your technique.
Took this tip to the simulator and couldn't believe the contact and distance I got. Rehearsing the right arm down feeling is now my pre shot routine. My 7 iron went from 170 to 190. Great explanation Kyle!
I just watched this video and subscribed to channel. My issue(I believe) is a steep downswing since my divots are very deep. And as a result sometimes fat! I know about getting weight on front foot but I'm going to give your shallowing technique a try. Good explanation!
Over 60 years ago our club professional tried to teach me the same teaching in your video. Unfortunately he did not have the ability to communicate the same as you.
This video is one of the most important golf lessons in golf.
Congratulations on your ability to communicate.
Well done. I've been a believer in this golf lesson for the last 60 years
Very good🎉
thank you so much for a thorough explanation on shallowing the club! Can you make a video on the follow through to add to this lesson? i noticed that my club shaft exits above the left shoulder rather low left intersecting the left bicep after i hit the ball.
It would be great to look at your swing. I'd go to www.stockshotclub.com and you can get unlimited lessons free for 7 days from myself and my team.
Kyle. Do u still have any focus on even to a minor extent driving the elbow towards the ball? It’s such a heavy emphasis by many instructors.
great video and very helpful in understanding how the shallowing actually works! How do you keep the angle of your right wrist though? When I bring the right arm down, for some reason I lose the angle in my wrist. I'm sure I'm not the only person that has this issue...any drills to help keep the wrist angle? Thanks!
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Awesome video! You had me the moment you said it's just like Hammering a nail! ;)
Grate video!!!
It is also work for driver?
kyle, i like the video and info, so are you saying the arms lower and the shaft shallows before the hips turn because it seems for a long time they have been saying the hips lead the way. i gotta try this out, thnx.
Thanks for the video. I have a question though.
I'm trying to figure out when to really start pouring on the turn. Should that happen around when the hands hit their low point (p5.5-ish)?
This is exactly what the split hand drill achieves, the best drill imo. Puts you in the perfect backswing and then downswing position.
The split and drill and the L to L drill are 2 game changers.
So good.. athletic motion golf did a really good video on shallowing with the same concepts.. once I committed to shallowing the way you and them are saying the game became a lot more fun. It is a GAME changer people, Don’t let this info leave your brain
Like seeing the New level irons man!
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE INFORMATION!! So pumped to give this a go!
Hey thanks! :) you're awesome!
How it ALWAYS STARTS! Until you get to the range, it doesn’t work.. and you revert back to your old crappy swing lol
Pure Golden - can’t wait to work on this - my problem is how long will it take for this to become reflex for me🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Thanks Eldred! Work on it and let me know how it goes. If you work on it everyday for 5-10 mins at the house you'll get closer and closer to it becoming muscle memory.
So I’ve been working on this for a while and for my longer irons I’m starting to thin them as I rotate thru…specifically my 4i..it’s frustrating as I use it a lot off the tee
cool
Hi Kyle, can you confirm this shallowing move can be used with all clubs even fairway woods?
i've been golfing for four months now, and I learned how to shallow differently that works really well for explosive power and its using my left lead rest, more dominant than my right arm how you explain it ...when I use my left lead wrist, more dominant at the top to sling into the shallow position " "pronation "everything else comes natural..
Where is that trail hands thumb pointing as you lower the club? For me it always feels like if I let the club fall down or pull my arms down that the right hand just kind of slams into the ground which slams the club steep af into the ground
Is there a difference between this and trying to keep your trailing elbow tucked through out the swing?
Are you pulling your hands and arms down or is the shift and weight transfer bring them down?
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This is the only shallow shaft video that works
While this looks easy to do, many of us still struggle. Would you say the thing that is crucial for this to work is proper sequencing? We need to replace the first move from the top from being the torso rotation and to being the lowering of the arms followed by the torso, shoulders and arms? Right?
Is there a difference with what you’re saying and pulling down? As pulling down steepens the club. Not sure how to implement this without pulling down
Hi Kyle! Been doing this shallowing drill but im hitting more and more behind the ball the shallower I get. I know this is somewhay expected but any drills to move the low point forward as you start to shallow more? Or is the answer to just rotate more and faster?
If you're hitting it fat then you're hanging back on your back foot. You need to combine the unfolding arm with shifting your pressure on to your lead foot, preferably starting just before you complete your backswing.
First off, awesome video! Second, the speed piece is missing here. I’d love to see a video that reconciles generating speed with this movement. It seems like in the full swing, this position is nothing more than a checkpoint that you pass through during the motion of throwing the club violently outward behind and away from you. “aka. drawing the arrow from the quiver”. Without the speed element, this motion could drastically reduce clubhead speed
Can confirm Mike Bender is a certified g
I played pickleball for 3 hours so I can’t stand up right now but I’m going to take notes.
TLDR; @ 4:32 is when the lesson actually starts and finishes in 1 minute. Thanks PGA Tour Professional Justin Rose. 👍🏾
Does this move from the top not promote casting/early release? how can you do this without releasing the club head too early?
I think it's a feel, but doing it at full speed and with rotation should negate most of the early release.
I’m sorry, I don’t understand… 9:42 I think Kyle’s referencing two different numbers on the Trackman. His original path was 11+ (second number from the right) due to the cone. Then he compare’s to Rory who is a 1+. Then Kyle hits again and says he’s gone from an 8 to a 2? But the second number from the right is an 8+? Do these numbers move around on the Trackman? Am I missing something?
Here’s my question? I’ve gone to fitters and been amazed at all the shafts on the wall, yet they only have me try 1 or 2? How different are shafts?
WAYYYYY different. They are like prescription glasses
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What’s so crazy about this is it is not comfortable for me at all yet I square the ball up every single time. But as soon as I swing comfortably, I can’t hit a golf shot to save my life. I can’t wait to nail this feel
Same. Feels uncomfortable, weak, and unathletic. But ive never pured so many shots.
Your bang on there. Maybe review the Earth being round.
EXACTLY! I have wasted 20 years doing this the wrong way!!
3 minutes till the main topic..
Excellent video & explanation . It is the formula for Coke in golf!. Kyle, thank you
If Gd created the swing, he must have created the game. Gotta have a talk with that dude, lol.
Until my swing breaks down again, this is the last swing tip video I will ever watch.
I wish it was that easy as you explained but keeping the club out in front of your chest is a hard thing to do
i wish I could find an easy way to shallow the darn club...i get the concept but I am still too steep on my downswing....
You’re not alone buddy. You’re not alone!
I connect better with Justin Rose’s thought process 4:32; let the LEFT arm sweep down the front of the chest until it reaches the belt line, then swing away. By doing so, JR is naturally lowering his right arm and unfolding his right elbow as Kyle suggests. Note the caveat; JR DOES NOT turn his hips right away. All the more reason to slow the takeaway and downswing.
Just found this, which is more technical, but suggests the same mind thought as Kyle: th-cam.com/video/YfvVnWwhQFc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_xGf4zP438YIldSR
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Doesn't really stop you chunkier and toppjn6
Justin Rose talks about lowering his LEFT arm and Kyle talks about lowering the right arm. These are two completely different things. Surely weight shift to the left (lead leg) automatically lowers the arms? The dog wags the tail, not the other way around.
George Gankas would have a field day with this video… You’re absolutely right, rotation does all of this stuff automatically. The arms should be passive in the swing and I feel like this video is going to make a lot of people over use their arms.
I’ve seen this before. It’s basically the feeling of lowering a dumbbell while during a bicep curl, as you do your downswing.
Replace this feeling at the top of the swing with the one you currently have- which is to turn your shoulders at the top, and producing an over the top swing.
Great video 👍 but the world is flat
haha thanks
Not my favorite drill here it promotes extention of the trail arm which should actually be slightly bent on impact , no need to open your arm like this if you shift your weight back correctly the club should shallow naturally this this drill is the equivalence of the loop drill that is basically a drill to manufacture the shallow movement for players that can't open their lead hip and transfer their weight
Right? Right. Right?
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I really wish people stopped paying so much for the crazy teachers that say the body should hit the ball and just learn how to use their arms more in the swing. All ams use their body too much anyway. I don't understand how MORE body twitches, angle holding, and fast turns are going to make people better. Ams need to learn how to find the slot with the arms first. Then they can do that other crazy stuff later for added power, stingers, etc.
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The world is flat and the golf swing goes against every natural instinct in your body.
Earth is flat, my friend 😉
For such a simple motion you’ve found a way to make it sound tremendously complicated. So much talk.
Good video, but saying “right?” every two sentences is annoying.
Kyle is an excellent coach that works with ALOT of kids, so he’s probably used to saying that.
Sorry about that! Always something to work on!
There is NO NEED TO SHALLOW if your take away is always on the swing center circle. It never ever needs the shallowing a shaft. So wasteful video here.
So how do you keep your takeaway on the swing centre circle?
Sorry you feel that way. Shallowing is a vital part in the golf swing but I agree other things before shallowing need to be in place.