Please click "...more / Show more" for links and more information. Visit www.horizonhobby.com/blog-article-plus-firmware-update.html for more information on AS3X+. Spektrum Programmer App (Required for Update) - spektrumrc.cachefly.net/apps/spektrum_programmer.html Spektrum Programming Cable (Required for Update except for AR10360T) - www.horizonhobby.com/product/SPMA3065.html Spektrum Wiki Pages - wiki.spektrumrc.com/spektrum/ Chapters: 0:00 - Introduction and Update Requirements 0:44 - AS3X+ Compatible Receivers 1:00 - Things To Know Before Updating 2:58 - AS3X Programmer App 4:01 - Updating the Receiver 9:56 - Factory Reset 14:05 - First Time Setup 17:21 - Gyro Response Test and Outro With this firmware update, you can get the ultimate locked-in feel of AS3X+; but now in lower channel count receivers such as the 6, 8, and 10 channel Spektrum stabilized receivers (refer to the full list of receivers in the video). The all-new AS3X+ stabilization algorithm creates better flight performance, improves sensor accuracy and data rate, and provides pilots with a generationally different feel compared to AS3X. AS3X+ new parameters and new menus with intuitive forward programming makes it the easiest system to set up and program. It features a vastly improved stabilization algorithm that has been rigorously tested by experts throughout the hobby. In the video, Horizon Hobby Technical Director David Payne walks through the process in updating an AS3X receiver to the new AS3X+ firmware. He also goes through the first time setup of the AS3X+ receiver and provides a couple of tips and tricks along the way! Follow SpektrumRC on Social Media! facebook.com/SpektrumRC/ instagram.com/spektrum_rc/
Super Excited! I see there are only a few (currently) pre-set model's available for the 3.x Firmware. Is there a time frame when we will see other models, Will you guys be updating all current production model's Pre-Set's to the 3.x Firmware? Thanks!
My Cirrus SR22t just arrived this morning. Had her up for maiden this afternoon. Now im just waiting for my programming cable to get here tomorrow, so i can crank this AR637TA up to "Hell yeah!" Havent been through this process yet- my previous AR631's let me factory reset via FP in my NX8. So, i really apreciate having this step-by-step tutorial to referrence. Thanks Spektrum Dudes 👍
Thank you for the updates! I'm very excited to get started updating my receivers and transmitter. Question: For non-Windows users, will there be any plans in the future to have Spektrum create a Spektrum Progammer for the Mac OS?
Somewhat helpful video, thanks. What I'd like to see is a video where you explain how to utilize the feature in this update titled: "Aux Output Settings." Please give us some setup examples.
Please make the Spektrum brand hte most popular brand again. Not by making new transmitters. People want $45~45 6 to 8 channel receivers with battery voltage telemetry. At my club more than 50 members bought Radio Master because the receivers are too expensive... I have seen and use d a receiver with the aformentioned specs that costs only $13 and works reliably. Please save the brand and make people feel they spend there money wisely!
So is this available to use with the dx series? If i upgrade my rx's to as3x+ is it usable with the dx transmitters? I still have yet hear the benefits of the as3x+
I updated an ar630, the plane has all six channels being used with flaps and gear. I cannot get the nose wheel gyro to work correctly. I need see Spot run directions. I have the nx8 with the new plus software. Help anyone.
So some of us have been comparing notes today. Seems that when updating an RX but not doing a factory reset and using a TX that is not updated some of the new functionality comes up in the menu even though it is technically on AS3X and not AS3X+. In a future update can you make it clear that it’s either AS3X+ or AS3X? Calling both just AS3X in forward programming is confusing a number of us.
@@Tanker831 Won't matter, new algorithm, new gains. You can see the gains on the telemetry screen of the Tx though. Just scroll until you get to the AS3X page. The default AS3X+ gains are a good starting point. It shouldn't get you in trouble.
Hi, if I have a new AR10360T reciever and I connected the device via micro USB cable and then I chose only Instal update (not Conversion Firmware 2.X.X to 3.X.X before it), is it OK? The Spectrum Programmer showed me "The device was successfully updated." The Softvare version is 3.1 and the program show me "No new software version is avaiable at this time". In Models I see AR10360T Receiver v3. Is it OK? If not how can I repair it please? Thanks!
Nice to have up to 20 channels on the NX10 to match the receivers number of channels. What kind of improvements AS3X vs AS3X+ can one expect when flying?
Can I set the orientation for tail daggers as if it's ready to take off with rear wheel on ground or does it actually have to be level like it's in a airplane stand with nose and tail level I'm confused
Hi David, Will Spektrum be releasing a "how to" video on the new AS3X+updated Foward Programming menu? A walkthrough of the additional updates and how they work with you model. Thanks
"Gyro Response Test" works awesome but it only works on the elevator? No exaggerated responses on the ailerons or rudder even though AS3X is there whether in or out of "Gyro response test" mode.
can this update be used with the dx8....i dont want to update receiver an not be able to use it do to transmitter not having proper update itself. so can the ar631 update to as3x plus be used with dx8?
Very disapointing that the new receiver firmware is Not compatible with the DX G2-3 Transmitters. This is a Masive dis-service to Your Customer's. Some simply can Not afford a new transmitter in these difficult times.
DO NOT SET RECEIVER ORIENTATION MANUALLY. Spektrum mixed up orientation 9 and 13, and possibly others. The only way to ensure your gyro won't be reversed is to use gravity to set the orientation. After doing this, ignore any discrepancy in the orientation diagram if the controls urface responses are correct.
Great! What about the "DX" Generation II owners? Now my Gen II DX6, 7, and 8 are left out of the update cycle. What is missing from these Gen II transmitters that do not allow them to be upgraded? I really do not need 20 channels or even 14 channels. As soon as you start shipping Trainers with the new firmware in the receiver, I won't even be able to bind to them. I certainly will not be able to downgrade the firmware rev! As an Instructor, I need a reliable transmitter that can fly a trainer around the traffic pattern without 400-500 frame losses and 2 holds (40+ continuous frame losses for each hold!!). My feeble brain calculates at 20Hz, 40 missing frames equals 2 seconds. At 120 mph a "drone" in hold can cover 176 feet. A 4lb aircraft going 100 mph has a lot of energy!! I can not imagine anyone flying a high speed turbine or glow airplane with this protocol. I worked real-time programming on USAF flight simulators (B-52G/H, F-15C/E/S) for 20 years. We used 20 frames per second communications (1553 buss) that did not lose data (frames). Everyone upgrading should be enabling "Frame loss and hold" reporting. A speeding UAV in "hold" can not be ignored!
This all makes sense and I’m rather excited to start upgrading to As3X+, however I have a few questions, mainly around a couple of BNFs that I own. Will existing BNFs start shipping with AS3X+? My 90mm viper BNF flies just great. My worry is that if I upgrade to as3X+ then I won’t be able to dial it in as good as the factory AS3X settings. Would there be maybe recommended AS3X+ settings for existing BNF planes like the viper 90mm? Will I even notice a difference? Is it worth doing on that plane at all?
Is there a tutorial for the rudder/yaw gyro setup with this new function somewhere? I really would like to try it out. Many friends rave about steering gyros. Interested in the tail dragger aspect mostly.
What about the AS3X receivers( SPM-1005,AS6410NBL of SPMA3191) and others that came in my UMX Aircraft. Or the BNF receivers/FBL that came with aircraft and helicopters. If I update my iX14 will I still be able to fly them?
Spektrum Programmer just updated to version 3.9, I have an AR631 and an AR630, on neither of the 2 RXs a 2.*.* to 3.*.* conversion firmware is offered to me....
Updated receiver using conversion 2.x to 3.x. Then updated to 3.1. Go to forward programming to factory reset. Says I need to update transmitter, currently at 2.09. Update to 2.10. Forward Programming disappeared. Send help. Is that bug still in that prevents forward programming to appear on DX6e using 2.10?
What about all your customers who are still using a IX12? I understand that it’s not capable of utilizing AS3X+ Please provide further information for your IX12 users. Thanks
I watched the video all the way to the end. All i heard was it has better features. But did not hear why i would want to upgrade. Please be clear to the point and say why we should update. I wasted my time watching the video.
Set the reversing in the transmitter so that the sticks move everything correctly and then go into Forward Programming and run the “Relearn Servo Settings” function.
All of those settings you mentioned live in the TX so won’t change. The only settings that live on the RX are the As3x and safe settings. Sounds like they stay the same until you reset to upgrade to AS3X+
@@putzytart Ok. I upgraded one but now I have even more questions. There's a bunch of features like HLA (which I would use a lot) that has some settings I'm not familiar with.
@@bcflyer99I don’t know about HLA settings. All I can say is that if it lives under forward programming then it lives in the RX and will be reset when you set up AS3X+. If it’s in another menu then it lives on the TX and won’t be affected.
I knew there would be another proprietary gimmick they would throw out. Many guys at my club are leaving Sektrum for this reason. I wish I didn’t have so much money invested in them!!! This is the last straw for me. You’re in denial if you don’t see they had this planned for a while. Great way to screw the previous buyers and SELL MORE PROPIETARY CONNECTORS and cables!!!
Please click "...more / Show more" for links and more information. Visit www.horizonhobby.com/blog-article-plus-firmware-update.html for more information on AS3X+.
Spektrum Programmer App (Required for Update) - spektrumrc.cachefly.net/apps/spektrum_programmer.html
Spektrum Programming Cable (Required for Update except for AR10360T) - www.horizonhobby.com/product/SPMA3065.html
Spektrum Wiki Pages - wiki.spektrumrc.com/spektrum/
Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction and Update Requirements
0:44 - AS3X+ Compatible Receivers
1:00 - Things To Know Before Updating
2:58 - AS3X Programmer App
4:01 - Updating the Receiver
9:56 - Factory Reset
14:05 - First Time Setup
17:21 - Gyro Response Test and Outro
With this firmware update, you can get the ultimate locked-in feel of AS3X+; but now in lower channel count receivers such as the 6, 8, and 10 channel Spektrum stabilized receivers (refer to the full list of receivers in the video). The all-new AS3X+ stabilization algorithm creates better flight performance, improves sensor accuracy and data rate, and provides pilots with a generationally different feel compared to AS3X. AS3X+ new parameters and new menus with intuitive forward programming makes it the easiest system to set up and program. It features a vastly improved stabilization algorithm that has been rigorously tested by experts throughout the hobby. In the video, Horizon Hobby Technical Director David Payne walks through the process in updating an AS3X receiver to the new AS3X+ firmware. He also goes through the first time setup of the AS3X+ receiver and provides a couple of tips and tricks along the way!
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OhMyGoodness!! What a difference with AS3X+! Flies soooooo smooth. Thank you Spektrum 🙏🏽😊, Mark
As you mentioned at the middle of the video, you also must update your Tx IOT take advantage of the AS3X+ features.
Super Excited! I see there are only a few (currently) pre-set model's available for the 3.x Firmware. Is there a time frame when we will see other models, Will you guys be updating all current production model's Pre-Set's to the 3.x Firmware? Thanks!
My Cirrus SR22t just arrived this morning. Had her up for maiden this afternoon. Now im just waiting for my programming cable to get here tomorrow, so i can crank this AR637TA up to "Hell yeah!"
Havent been through this process yet- my previous AR631's let me factory reset via FP in my NX8.
So, i really apreciate having this step-by-step tutorial to referrence. Thanks Spektrum Dudes 👍
Is the IX 12 supported with the new updates? Also what is the difference between AS3X + and Synapse?
I've got 17 planes! this will take me some time but very excited
Nice, I've got one in 17 pieces.
🤣🤣
I'm in no hurry to update my transmitter or receivers. They work just fine like they are.
Thank you for the updates! I'm very excited to get started updating my receivers and transmitter. Question: For non-Windows users, will there be any plans in the future to have Spektrum create a Spektrum Progammer for the Mac OS?
I guess that's a no?
Good video and each step explained!
Somewhat helpful video, thanks. What I'd like to see is a video where you explain how to utilize the feature in this update titled: "Aux Output Settings." Please give us some setup examples.
I'll be checking this out. Thanks for the reference material 👍
A newer Spektrum Progammer Beta 3.9 is out if you want to go beyond the 3.8.12 version.
Please make the Spektrum brand hte most popular brand again. Not by making new transmitters. People want $45~45 6 to 8 channel receivers with battery voltage telemetry. At my club more than 50 members bought Radio Master because the receivers are too expensive... I have seen and use d a receiver with the aformentioned specs that costs only $13 and works reliably. Please save the brand and make people feel they spend there money wisely!
So is this available to use with the dx series?
If i upgrade my rx's to as3x+ is it usable with the dx transmitters?
I still have yet hear the benefits of the as3x+
Excellent video, thank you! Think I will try the AS3X+ on my new 10360 going in my Integral.
I updated an ar630, the plane has all six channels being used with flaps and gear. I cannot get the nose wheel gyro to work correctly. I need see Spot run directions. I have the nx8 with the new plus software. Help anyone.
You need another channel for the steering servo.
So some of us have been comparing notes today. Seems that when updating an RX but not doing a factory reset and using a TX that is not updated some of the new functionality comes up in the menu even though it is technically on AS3X and not AS3X+. In a future update can you make it clear that it’s either AS3X+ or AS3X? Calling both just AS3X in forward programming is confusing a number of us.
What about the AR637TA that came with my BNF super timber? Can I update it or if I will loose all the programming specific to this plane?
I always write down all my gains if I’m updating or resetting a receiver that way I can enter everything back in when it’s done.
He said you lose everything
I just did this on mine. You can update, but you will need to factory reset to get AS3X+. Re-maidening mine tomorrow.
Where do you find all the bnf gains
@@Tanker831 Won't matter, new algorithm, new gains. You can see the gains on the telemetry screen of the Tx though. Just scroll until you get to the AS3X page.
The default AS3X+ gains are a good starting point. It shouldn't get you in trouble.
Hi, if I have a new AR10360T reciever and I connected the device via micro USB cable and then I chose only Instal update (not Conversion Firmware 2.X.X to 3.X.X before it), is it OK? The Spectrum Programmer showed me "The device was successfully updated." The Softvare version is 3.1 and the program show me "No new software version is avaiable at this time". In Models I see AR10360T Receiver v3. Is it OK? If not how can I repair it please? Thanks!
Nice to have up to 20 channels on the NX10 to match the receivers number of channels. What kind of improvements AS3X vs AS3X+ can one expect when flying?
Can I set the orientation for tail daggers as if it's ready to take off with rear wheel on ground or does it actually have to be level like it's in a airplane stand with nose and tail level I'm confused
The plane can be sitting on the tail wheel when setting the orientation, but the plane must be level when capturing the level flight attitude.
AS3X+ compatible receivers:
SPMAR630
SPMAR631
SPMAR637T/TA
SPMAR8360T
SPMAR10360T
(from 0:55)
Do you have videos explaining all the new features introduced with the new updates ?
Spektrum, please have someone respond to their customer questions regarding AS3X+ updates!
Spektrum has a new Wiki. All the info is there..
Hi - i just bought the super timber 1.7
Is there a templet for setup available?
Thank you so much
Hi David, Will Spektrum be releasing a "how to" video on the new AS3X+updated Foward Programming menu? A walkthrough of the additional updates and how they work with you model.
Thanks
So in a nut shell... what is the main advantage of a planw flying with as3x and the same one witu as3x+? Faster gyro responses? Smoother outputs?
How about using a program card for the 6000 kv 2 in 1 motors .
Nice video, I hope for more specific ones.
Question, can the AS3X and safe parameters be changed with Spektrum Programmer?
No, that’s what Forward Programming is for.
"Gyro Response Test" works awesome but it only works on the elevator? No exaggerated responses on the ailerons or rudder even though AS3X is there whether in or out of "Gyro response test" mode.
can this update be used with the dx8....i dont want to update receiver an not be able to use it do to transmitter not having proper update itself. so can the ar631 update to as3x plus be used with dx8?
Very disapointing that the new receiver firmware is Not compatible with the DX G2-3 Transmitters. This is a Masive dis-service to Your Customer's. Some simply can Not afford a new transmitter in these difficult times.
DO NOT SET RECEIVER ORIENTATION MANUALLY. Spektrum mixed up orientation 9 and 13, and possibly others. The only way to ensure your gyro won't be reversed is to use gravity to set the orientation. After doing this, ignore any discrepancy in the orientation diagram if the controls urface responses are correct.
Great! What about the "DX" Generation II owners? Now my Gen II DX6, 7, and 8 are left out of the update cycle. What is missing from these Gen II transmitters that do not allow them to be upgraded? I really do not need 20 channels or even 14 channels. As soon as you start shipping Trainers with the new firmware in the receiver, I won't even be able to bind to them. I certainly will not be able to downgrade the firmware rev! As an Instructor, I need a reliable transmitter that can fly a trainer around the traffic pattern without 400-500 frame losses and 2 holds (40+ continuous frame losses for each hold!!). My feeble brain calculates at 20Hz, 40 missing frames equals 2 seconds. At 120 mph a "drone" in hold can cover 176 feet. A 4lb aircraft going 100 mph has a lot of energy!! I can not imagine anyone flying a high speed turbine or glow airplane with this protocol. I worked real-time programming on USAF flight simulators (B-52G/H, F-15C/E/S) for 20 years. We used 20 frames per second communications (1553 buss) that did not lose data (frames). Everyone upgrading should be enabling "Frame loss and hold" reporting. A speeding UAV in "hold" can not be ignored!
I updated my Dx8 and updated a ar630 today and they worked fine together.
really need to standardize usb c spektrum. A little frustrating I have to wait for this update cable to get here.
If I update a plane to AS3X+ can I use my IX 12 as in the past or do I have to use my nx10 with the update to 20 channels?
Good video but you need to change the way that you either record your audio or where you record your audio
I still DON'T understand why I have to constantly update everything !!!
This all makes sense and I’m rather excited to start upgrading to As3X+, however I have a few questions, mainly around a couple of BNFs that I own.
Will existing BNFs start shipping with AS3X+? My 90mm viper BNF flies just great. My worry is that if I upgrade to as3X+ then I won’t be able to dial it in as good as the factory AS3X settings. Would there be maybe recommended AS3X+ settings for existing BNF planes like the viper 90mm? Will I even notice a difference? Is it worth doing on that plane at all?
Is there a tutorial for the rudder/yaw gyro setup with this new function somewhere? I really would like to try it out. Many friends rave about steering gyros. Interested in the tail dragger aspect mostly.
Will AS3X+ work with my DX9 transmitter?
What about the AS3X receivers( SPM-1005,AS6410NBL of SPMA3191) and others that came in my UMX Aircraft. Or the BNF receivers/FBL that came with aircraft and helicopters. If I update my iX14 will I still be able to fly them?
Spektrum Programmer just updated to version 3.9, I have an AR631 and an AR630, on neither of the 2 RXs a 2.*.* to 3.*.* conversion firmware is offered to me....
Question: Will this feature AS3X+ work on my DX18G2 transmitter? I already have forward programming feature.
Yes, look up the new Spektrum Wiki page..
Updated receiver using conversion 2.x to 3.x. Then updated to 3.1. Go to forward programming to factory reset. Says I need to update transmitter, currently at 2.09. Update to 2.10. Forward Programming disappeared. Send help. Is that bug still in that prevents forward programming to appear on DX6e using 2.10?
Reverted back to 2.09 on the transmitter and forward programming is back, but still says it requires an update. So GG, DX6e + 630 does not work.
@@BellySyrup I am having the same issue, looking forward to a response from Spektrum 🤞
@@AlanMckenzie Update to 2.11..
What about all your customers who are still using a IX12? I understand that it’s not capable of utilizing AS3X+ Please provide further information for your IX12 users. Thanks
Have you added the ability to use Apple Computers for the downloading
How is the new AR8360T+ different from the old AR8360T? Same with the NX8+ vs. a updated NX8.
The label..
So you automaticly get extra channels after you update right? I have the ar631 and the spmar8360T. Both of them will get 12 channels?
Receivers could always decode 20 channels, but they only have 6, 8, or 10 servo ports.
Does this work on a MAC?
cannot download latest programmer
You need show a setup on a BNF airplane. And show the smart file setup
I watched the video all the way to the end. All i heard was it has better features. But did not hear why i would want to upgrade. Please be clear to the point and say why we should update. I wasted my time watching the video.
How about front wheel gyro
Find and read the new Spektrum Wiki page..
I have a new AR637T can I just update this Receiver without reset to Factory Setting?
Yes.
Yes, but it won't enable the new SAFE+ algorithm. It will fly just like it did before.
When will we be able to Bluetooth updates to receivers from Transmitter?
What is "hand launch assist" for sailplanes
It can sense the throwing motion and stabilize the plane in a climb for a few seconds. Really useful.
Now its on 3.9 ?
What do you do if the Gyro response is reversed?
Set the reversing in the transmitter so that the sticks move everything correctly and then go into Forward Programming and run the “Relearn Servo Settings” function.
Good video, but the acoustics weren’t great..
So if I have mixes set up in my IX20, including dual rates, expo, throttle cut, timers; all those will carry over?
All of those settings you mentioned live in the TX so won’t change. The only settings that live on the RX are the As3x and safe settings. Sounds like they stay the same until you reset to upgrade to AS3X+
@@putzytart Ok. I upgraded one but now I have even more questions. There's a bunch of features like HLA (which I would use a lot) that has some settings I'm not familiar with.
@@bcflyer99what’s HLA?
@@putzytart Hand Launch Assist. And the thing is you don't just activate it; there are some other setting variables to consider.
@@bcflyer99I don’t know about HLA settings. All I can say is that if it lives under forward programming then it lives in the RX and will be reset when you set up AS3X+. If it’s in another menu then it lives on the TX and won’t be affected.
I knew there would be another proprietary gimmick they would throw out. Many guys at my club are leaving Sektrum for this reason. I wish I didn’t have so much money invested in them!!! This is the last straw for me. You’re in denial if you don’t see they had this planned for a while. Great way to screw the previous buyers and SELL MORE PROPIETARY CONNECTORS and cables!!!
They added value to a whole bunch of 4 year old transmitters and receivers. Are you upset about needing a cable fore the update? Borrow one.
Buh-bye! Nobody has better gyros than Spektrum..
@@txkflierSpekjunk
@@thelic4171Spekjunk
I have a Radiomaster tx16s using the new plus , so can do all the same stuff that the overpriced Spekjunk can do
I don't know why they can't just leave things alone! Basement trolls will love this crap. The rest of us are switching to Lemon.
I agree with you!! But technology changes everyone has to follow along or get left behind. Us old timers will just get left behind I guess.
Buh-bye!
@@txkflier Hmm, basement troll
@@drmrjon If you don't like Spektrum, LEAVE already. Bye!