Wish video would start out with references of solid scientific papers that demonstrate the benefit of red-light on skin. It is great that Dr Abs describes the proposed mechanism but that needs proof of benefit to skin in controlled studies
Some great info, but "World's top expert"...? Didn't you just graduate dentistry 6 years ago? Then a short time in aethetics, and now working for the company who manufactuers Dermalux? You are a brilliant and bold young marketer, that much is true.
Dr ab , I want to invite you to a discussion with industry research leaders , I recently commented on your inferences to Omnilux and you ridiculed the fact that Omnilux clear was the only mdr cleared silicon mask and that as a manufacturer I had a vested interest . You are absolutely right I have , in protecting the consumer . For that reason I want to set up a forum with you and the world leaders in LLT researchers so we can discuss your numerous statements on led . Let me know when you are free and I can get this organised . Please let’s be ready to have scientific discussions as this is what my guys will be interested in with scientific evidence to support claims to regulatory standards
As the manufacturer of masks to companies like Omni, CurrentBody etc I think any event you organise will inevitably have a bias to it as your vested interest is in selling those brands, obviously. I've already had debates about this topic in front of audiences like at The Royal College Of Physicians with clinicians from around the world who are experts in multiple fields in a brand-free and manufacturer-free setting. When there is another, you're welcome to send whoever you like.
@@Dr_Abs Dermalux refers their consumers to CurrentBody to purchase their Flex for personal in home use. What am I missing? Are they affiliated with CurrentBody?
@@Dr_Abs Dermalux refers their consumers to CurrentBody to purchase their Flex for personal in home use. What am I missing? Are they affiliated with CurrentBody?
@@Dr_Abs Dermalux refers their consumers to CurrentBody to purchase their Flex for personal in home use. What am I missing? Are they affiliated with CurrentBody?
I am super super glad I found this podcast. Its BF in the USA and am bombarded with LED Mask adverts so I started looking and I was not convinced because 1) FDA "cleared) terminology, so appreciate higlighting that 2) light is light abd it can damage so your response on it matters what wavelength you get(Ie you could end up with UV) logic!!! 3) was not sure about LED lights since they are everywhere so your comment on how they source LED makes sense. I mean why are medical grade tools so $$$$$ vs your Sephora product. Thank you!!!
31:09 min mark: "What does the CE stand for"? Dr. Abs does know. Here's the answer: CE marking is a label that indicates that a medical device has been assessed by the manufacturer and meets European Union (EU) safety, health, and environmental protection requirements. The letters "CE" stand for Conformité Européenne, which is French for "European conformity".
Have you looked into the Maysama LED light panel? In particular, have you listened to any interviews of the founder? After considerable research, she specifically created this light panel to use exactly the right kind of red LED light and infrared light. I'm not the only one who has experienced terrific results.
This has been so interesting. I bought the Dermalux flex two years ago for anti aging so was only interested in using it for the red and NIR. However, as someone that has NEVER suffered acne, the break out it gave me was off the scale. For months and months the breakouts kept coming. Wave after wave, even after I ceased using the device. Now I will admit to using it excessively and for elongated periods, longer than was recommended. Could that have been the issue? What you said about using red on inflammation really struck me and now I wonder whether it’s possible I got stuck in this awful cycle of accelerating results towards inflammation and break out because I was using red. Perhaps, like you said, I needed to focus only on NIR to reduce the inflammation and THEN introduce the red once it had cleared up. It’s sat unused for two years because it terrified me. Such a waste of money. I need to take tentative steps to reintroduce it especially as you cite it to be the best on the market.
I was reading about how to use red light, and my research informed me of used without breaks, so you have to use in pulses on and off and or taking a break after 6 minutes otherwise it causes cell oxidation.. I'm glad I learned that before buying one and causing more damage
Please someone explain to me, who is spending almost £2k for dermalux flex ? I was prepared to spend £300-500 for a red light therapy device, not specifically a mask, but almost £2k????
I bought a mask several years ago it was $90. I used it three times and noticed a difference in the lines around my mouth. I think I'll start using it again. I stopped because of illness etc also it's heavy, hard, and plastic.
If anyone who puts up videos and directs you to a link on their profile tells me that they are biased to that product and are being paid a commission. You can’t take anyone completely serious unless there isn’t something in it for them.
I've been using red light therapy for several years off and on but realized recently I had to stop ! I have lupus and my skin exploded into a rash and blotches where I did it 😢 Plus my pigmentation on my face looks way worse than it did a few years ago. And of course I'm not in the sun because of my lupus!
I have a 16w led bulb with 630nm and 850nm output that is very bright. Should i use this 10 mts once a day? And should i cover my eyeballls as its very bright!
I used a whole body LED device (Beauty angel, looks like a tanning bed) which is supposed to have zero UV. I had tanning marks afterwards on the parts of my body that touched the surface of the bed and started sweating. I am still trying to remove these tanning spots and I immediately stopped using the beauty angel.
Dr Abs, what in your opinion is the most effective treatment for dented scars e.g. icepick and boxscars on cheeks? 15 sessions of microneedling did not work for me.
Science and research do not have answers to everything. If science and research had the answers to everything no one would be sick. Im talking about the medical industry.
I have to wonder why is it when someone asked you to compare Dermalux Flex to Celluma Pro why not tell us why you are not a fan? I really wanted the pulse feature which Dermalux doesn't offer. I had several questions for Dermalux and their response time was less than wonderful so I am concerned about any kind of service issue or technical support they would be able to provide for units sold to Florida ? It's my understanding Celluma Pro and Dermalux Flex are the top competitors (medical grade) so if I want the pulse feature are there any other units you suggest? It has been been mentioned Dermalux is old technology and they made no changes in years which is why pulse has not been added. What's you thoughts on pulse? I wish I could find more personal reviews on TH-cam instead of influencers who in most cases are given these units I feel like biased in their opinions.
Great deep dive. Do you rate the celluma? It also seems to have some medical clearances. However, I understand the light nm range is not as narrow as the dermalux. Still learning.
I'd never rate it, personally. The clearances it has are pretty useless as medical CE is much more important. The power the skin receives per square centimetre is nowhere near as good as dermalux either.
Dearest Dr. Abs, I always follow Your videos carefully . I had met you back in the days of the Dermalux webinars that I have followed carefully in the past. In fact, over the past few years, I have become passionate about photobiomodulation. For face and neck I have been using Dermalux Flex once a day for 30 minutes for three years now. For the body I purchased a 1000 led 5 w dual chip red and infrared light panel , which I use for 20 minutes (ten minutes front and ten back). Dedicating myself to photobiomodulation therefore costs me a daily sacrifice of 50 minutes in total . I know that the dermalux flex is certified medical device, while the body panel is not . The question I wanted to ask you is as follows : do you think I am doing well to devote myself daily to photobiomodulation? I am 50 years old and very healthy so I don't have any specific problems. I am doing it with the hope that I can always be well for as long as possible and slow down the as much as possible aging . What do you think ? Do you think the platinum led or Mito panels give any benefit or are they useless in your opinion ? I would like you to talk about them in a video of yours soon
Was about to buy a Currentbody 4-in-1 mask and their hair growth one, but came across your videos. Will not be going through with my purchase.. Waiting for the Dermalux face now thanks to you =) tell them to hurryyy!!!
@@gabalorpheduck3734I bought the current body one and started getting brown spots and melasma spots and red spots in my skin….yikes!!! After only using it a few times a weeks for about 3 weeks. I don’t go out in the sun and I work in a hospital so it was only the mask that did this. Anyway, It seems that omnilux is more legit
Looks like an absolute waste of time to me. On the website they've not given any energy figures or key stats about the device. Looks as crap as most things out there to me. Avoid devices that you hold and move around - there's no benefit in such low energy devices when compared to something like the dermalux flex MD.
Ok but would you please tell me why? On the Celluma website they describe it as a better device. I really value your knowledge and don’t want to purchase the wrong device……
Would you be open to ''assessing'' Dr. Anil Rajani's LED Mask ? [based on what you've discussed in this video] We have followed him for some time & he is very honest, down to earth & factual - as well as creating his own LED Mask. Thank-you for your consideration of above ... Sincerely, Cindy
Started following you and love everything you do. My son has a keloid scar on his neck. Tried lasers, steroid injections. (Which flattened it slightly) But Nothing has worked with the red /purple color of keloid and still raised up.
Have you reviewed the CELLRETURN Platinum LED mask? I'd be interested in a comparison with the DermaLUX Flex but I can' find many reviews of the CellReturn product. If not, would you consider it?
I haven't made a video on it yet but mainly because the difference is so comical I'd not be able to stop laughing during the recording. Comparing them both is like comparing Donald Trump and Usian Bolt in a 100m race (Flex would be bolt in that analogy haha).
I really respect Dr Abs HOWEVER he got quite a few things wrong about RLT which really surprised me. In particular speaking to achieving ‘exact’ wavelengths. That’s not what the research has shown. It doesn’t need to be exact to the nm, it’s a bandwidth and the benefits aren’t reduced if it’s off by 1-10nm.
Please pay attention to the video properly before suggesting I got things wrong. I literally spoke of peak tolerance figures which is exactly what you've mentioned.
Don't use it for any longer than recommended. Maybe shorter. It didn't work for me because I got melasma. Maybe it was the heat. Not sure but I returned it
Doctor, very good of you to invite estetitians, and others, to learn more about what they are doing to their clients' faces, because none of us are their guinnie pigs for them to experiment on; just to see if their new purchased equipments really work. They should know, learn, and study (a lot) before they invest in these fancy things which us as clients will end up paying, either with our cash, our destroyed faces, or both. 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
You’ve just revealed yourself as a charlatan. I’m a non-French speaking, American (lol) who is not a healthcare professional, but works closely with them and even I know what CE is. Oh, brother - these naïve and gullible people watching TH-cam and being influenced by all you posers.
Dr Abs the mothaeffing OG, plz never change!!!!!! No one can be as real and eloquent as you
Thanks! Hopefully I can make a more understandable version of this one day 🙌
Wish video would start out with references of solid scientific papers that demonstrate the benefit of red-light on skin. It is great that Dr Abs describes the proposed mechanism but that needs proof of benefit to skin in controlled studies
There are many available with a simple Google search
Some great info, but "World's top expert"...? Didn't you just graduate dentistry 6 years ago? Then a short time in aethetics, and now working for the company who manufactuers Dermalux? You are a brilliant and bold young marketer, that much is true.
Dentistry is a specialty. Before you can study to become a dentist, you must first have a graduate degree in medicine, be a general doctor.
"Im a little bit of scientist myself".. Classic!
Dr ab , I want to invite you to a discussion with industry research leaders , I recently commented on your inferences to Omnilux and you ridiculed the fact that Omnilux clear was the only mdr cleared silicon mask and that as a manufacturer I had a vested interest . You are absolutely right I have , in protecting the consumer . For that reason I want to set up a forum with you and the world leaders in LLT researchers so we can discuss your numerous statements on led . Let me know when you are free and I can get this organised . Please let’s be ready to have scientific discussions as this is what my guys will be interested in with scientific evidence to support claims to regulatory standards
As the manufacturer of masks to companies like Omni, CurrentBody etc I think any event you organise will inevitably have a bias to it as your vested interest is in selling those brands, obviously. I've already had debates about this topic in front of audiences like at The Royal College Of Physicians with clinicians from around the world who are experts in multiple fields in a brand-free and manufacturer-free setting. When there is another, you're welcome to send whoever you like.
@@Dr_Abs Dermalux refers consumers to visit the CurrentBody website to purchase their Flex for at home personal use. Am I missing something?
@@Dr_Abs Dermalux refers their consumers to CurrentBody to purchase their Flex for personal in home use. What am I missing? Are they affiliated with CurrentBody?
@@Dr_Abs Dermalux refers their consumers to CurrentBody to purchase their Flex for personal in home use. What am I missing? Are they affiliated with CurrentBody?
@@Dr_Abs Dermalux refers their consumers to CurrentBody to purchase their Flex for personal in home use. What am I missing? Are they affiliated with CurrentBody?
I am super super glad I found this podcast. Its BF in the USA and am bombarded with LED Mask adverts so I started looking and I was not convinced because 1) FDA "cleared) terminology, so appreciate higlighting that 2) light is light abd it can damage so your response on it matters what wavelength you get(Ie you could end up with UV) logic!!! 3) was not sure about LED lights since they are everywhere so your comment on how they source LED makes sense. I mean why are medical grade tools so $$$$$ vs your Sephora product. Thank you!!!
I’ve used a regular old infrared bulb and have seen results
Let's give me a headache, the same as in shopping centers...
Regular halogen or quartz... better if not same effect for a fraction of the price
Thank you for being a blessing to the world.
31:09 min mark: "What does the CE stand for"? Dr. Abs does know. Here's the answer: CE marking is a label that indicates that a medical device has been assessed by the manufacturer and meets European Union (EU) safety, health, and environmental protection requirements. The letters "CE" stand for Conformité Européenne, which is French for "European conformity".
Thank you - I'm not a native french speaker so I couldn't say it in it's original language
Thanks for taking the bull out of beauty industry
Have you looked into the Maysama LED light panel? In particular, have you listened to any interviews of the founder? After considerable research, she specifically created this light panel to use exactly the right kind of red LED light and infrared light. I'm not the only one who has experienced terrific results.
This has been so interesting. I bought the Dermalux flex two years ago for anti aging so was only interested in using it for the red and NIR. However, as someone that has NEVER suffered acne, the break out it gave me was off the scale. For months and months the breakouts kept coming. Wave after wave, even after I ceased using the device. Now I will admit to using it excessively and for elongated periods, longer than was recommended. Could that have been the issue? What you said about using red on inflammation really struck me and now I wonder whether it’s possible I got stuck in this awful cycle of accelerating results towards inflammation and break out because I was using red. Perhaps, like you said, I needed to focus only on NIR to reduce the inflammation and THEN introduce the red once it had cleared up. It’s sat unused for two years because it terrified me. Such a waste of money. I need to take tentative steps to reintroduce it especially as you cite it to be the best on the market.
I was reading about how to use red light, and my research informed me of used without breaks, so you have to use in pulses on and off and or taking a break after 6 minutes otherwise it causes cell oxidation.. I'm glad I learned that before buying one and causing more damage
why are do UV light hurt us but Infrared is considered to help our skin?
Please share details on your course, thank you!
Please someone explain to me, who is spending almost £2k for dermalux flex ? I was prepared to spend £300-500 for a red light therapy device, not specifically a mask, but almost £2k????
I did 🙋🏼♀️ 🤷🏼♀️
I did too
I opted for a stronger full-body panel around $1.5k 😊
High quality LEDs are very expensive. They require a lot more steps to manufacture.
I did
Does the Dermalux reduce wrinkles?
I have the Artemis Miin LED mask Face and Neck Mask and it works. I am a 62-year-old man living in Luxembourg.
I bought a mask several years ago it was $90. I used it three times and noticed a difference in the lines around my mouth. I think I'll start using it again. I stopped because of illness etc also it's heavy, hard, and plastic.
What do you think about the new 4D laser Mask is it worth the money and dose it work thankyou Katie.
If anyone who puts up videos and directs you to a link on their profile tells me that they are biased to that product and are being paid a commission. You can’t take anyone completely serious unless there isn’t something in it for them.
This may be true, sometimes, but is absolutely positively definitely not true all the time.
@@sballantine8127 obviously if they’re getting paid a commission they have an ulterior motive.
I've been using red light therapy for several years off and on but realized recently I had to stop ! I have lupus and my skin exploded into a rash and blotches where I did it 😢
Plus my pigmentation on my face looks way worse than it did a few years ago. And of course I'm not in the sun because of my lupus!
I have a 16w led bulb with 630nm and 850nm output that is very bright. Should i use this 10 mts once a day? And should i cover my eyeballls as its very bright!
I used a whole body LED device (Beauty angel, looks like a tanning bed) which is supposed to have zero UV. I had tanning marks afterwards on the parts of my body that touched the surface of the bed and started sweating. I am still trying to remove these tanning spots and I immediately stopped using the beauty angel.
So sorry you got duped into it
Thanks for sharing such great knowledge!
Dr Abs, what in your opinion is the most effective treatment for dented scars e.g. icepick and boxscars on cheeks? 15 sessions of microneedling did not work for me.
Interesting question. Look at something like fractional RF needling. The best device at it in my opinion is the Lutronic Genius
TCA peels would really help. Look at Platinum Skincare.@@Dr_Abs t
Dry needling from underneath the scar
@@pattimarcq37 Do you mean subcision?
How can i get my elastin back …
Science and research do not have answers to everything. If science and research had the answers to everything no one would be sick. Im talking about the medical industry.
I have to wonder why is it when someone asked you to compare Dermalux Flex to Celluma Pro why not tell us why you are not a fan? I really wanted the pulse feature which Dermalux doesn't offer. I had several questions for Dermalux and their response time was less than wonderful so I am concerned about any kind of service issue or technical support they would be able to provide for units sold to Florida ? It's my understanding Celluma Pro and Dermalux Flex are the top competitors (medical grade) so if I want the pulse feature are there any other units you suggest? It has been been mentioned Dermalux is old technology and they made no changes in years which is why pulse has not been added. What's you thoughts on pulse? I wish I could find more personal reviews on TH-cam instead of influencers who in most cases are given these units I feel like biased in their opinions.
Great deep dive. Do you rate the celluma? It also seems to have some medical clearances. However, I understand the light nm range is not as narrow as the dermalux. Still learning.
I'd never rate it, personally. The clearances it has are pretty useless as medical CE is much more important. The power the skin receives per square centimetre is nowhere near as good as dermalux either.
Dearest Dr. Abs,
I always follow Your videos carefully .
I had met you back in the days of the Dermalux webinars that I have followed carefully in the past.
In fact, over the past few years, I have become passionate about photobiomodulation.
For face and neck I have been using Dermalux Flex once a day for 30 minutes for three years now.
For the body I purchased a 1000 led 5 w dual chip red and infrared light panel , which I use for 20 minutes (ten minutes front and ten back).
Dedicating myself to photobiomodulation therefore costs me a daily sacrifice of 50 minutes in total . I know that the dermalux flex is certified medical device, while the body panel is not . The question I wanted to ask you is as follows : do you think I am doing well to devote myself daily to photobiomodulation? I am 50 years old and very healthy so I don't have any specific problems. I am doing it with the hope that I can always be well for as long as possible and slow down the
as much as possible aging . What do you think ? Do you think the platinum led or Mito panels give any benefit or are they useless in your opinion ? I would like you to talk about them in a video of yours soon
Was about to buy a Currentbody 4-in-1 mask and their hair growth one, but came across your videos. Will not be going through with my purchase.. Waiting for the Dermalux face now thanks to you =) tell them to hurryyy!!!
🙏 Take a look at the currentbody one and the omnilux one and ask yourself why they're almost identical 😂
@@Dr_Abs hahahah i saw on reddit that they're from the same manufacturer but didn't think it was a red flag ... till i saw your video 😂
Hello, why is it a redflag to have the current body one ?
Which video are you talking about?
@@gabalorpheduck3734I bought the current body one and started getting brown spots and melasma spots and red spots in my skin….yikes!!! After only using it a few times a weeks for about 3 weeks. I don’t go out in the sun and I work in a hospital so it was only the mask that did this. Anyway, It seems that omnilux is more legit
Hello ! I would like to know your opinion about DPL LASER JOVS
Looks like an absolute waste of time to me. On the website they've not given any energy figures or key stats about the device. Looks as crap as most things out there to me. Avoid devices that you hold and move around - there's no benefit in such low energy devices when compared to something like the dermalux flex MD.
Celluma is CE Medical. What is your opinion of this device?
Not a fan at all.
Ok but would you please tell me why? On the Celluma website they describe it as a better device. I really value your knowledge and don’t want to purchase the wrong device……
Would you be open to ''assessing'' Dr. Anil Rajani's LED Mask ? [based on what you've discussed in this video]
We have followed him for some time & he is very honest, down to earth & factual - as well as creating his own LED Mask.
Thank-you for your consideration of above ... Sincerely, Cindy
Started following you and love everything you do. My son has a keloid scar on his neck. Tried lasers, steroid injections. (Which flattened it slightly) But Nothing has worked with the red /purple color of keloid and still raised up.
Yeah it's not easy. I've had decent success with newer methods but difficult to say without seeing people in person
Is LED effective for treating open pores, scares and hyperpigmentation on black skin after electrolysis on the upper lip?
No😢 but a light device. I think it’s called BBL from a dermatologist office can help get rid of that or some hydrocodone cream.
what do you think about Opatra LED light and omnilux ?
For me, nothing compares to dermalux. The optical intensity; the peak tolerance; the heat sinking etc are all unmatched.
@@Dr_Abs i get that from the video but opatra one is 20k. Is it even close to dermalux? thanks for quick answer
@@Dr_Abs also. is dermalux flex same powerful as their big stand free machine?
@@Dr_Abs its opatra pro light machine i was talking about
No definitely not - the big one needs the size for the power. The big one is around 20k including VAT.
Good info!
So the deesse pro is BS? I spent almost 2k and saw no difference
Think the seeing no difference is the answer to your question haha
@@Dr_Abs lol true
Dr Abs, what do u think about dr dennis gross LED mask? do u think its worth it? nd which one would u recommend ? Thanks
Complete waste of time
Currently there is no led mask in the world that is worth buying
Wait for my video coming out this Sunday - it will explain why in great detail ☺️
@@Dr_Abs Thanks alot, u saved my 500 bucks 😰
No problem. If you ever see someone interested in buying the Lyma laser tell them to stop that too 🤣🤣
Have you reviewed the CELLRETURN Platinum LED mask? I'd be interested in a comparison with the DermaLUX Flex but I can' find many reviews of the CellReturn product. If not, would you consider it?
I haven't made a video on it yet but mainly because the difference is so comical I'd not be able to stop laughing during the recording. Comparing them both is like comparing Donald Trump and Usian Bolt in a 100m race (Flex would be bolt in that analogy haha).
Lol@@Dr_Abs
I really respect Dr Abs HOWEVER he got quite a few things wrong about RLT which really surprised me. In particular speaking to achieving ‘exact’ wavelengths. That’s not what the research has shown. It doesn’t need to be exact to the nm, it’s a bandwidth and the benefits aren’t reduced if it’s off by 1-10nm.
Please pay attention to the video properly before suggesting I got things wrong. I literally spoke of peak tolerance figures which is exactly what you've mentioned.
how can I remove flat moles from face
Impossible to say without seeing in person
Hey is lux led mask any good?
Don't use it for any longer than recommended. Maybe shorter. It didn't work for me because I got melasma. Maybe it was the heat. Not sure but I returned it
If you have to wear goggles with the Dermalux then can it not improve the skin around your eyes?
You have to wear goggles with any source of coherent light. Changing position can allow you to treat the upper and lower eyelids separately.
@@Dr_Abshow if eyes are covered
Your content is profoundly thought_provoking! _ "Believe in your abilities to navigate your journey."
The goat!
And Longwave Digital :D
Doctor, very good of you to invite estetitians, and others, to learn more about what they are doing to their clients' faces, because none of us are their guinnie pigs for them to experiment on; just to see if their new purchased equipments really work. They should know, learn, and study (a lot) before they invest in these fancy things which us as clients will end up paying, either with our cash, our destroyed faces, or both. 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Word Corrections by me: 'cause we all need to learn. 😂 *Estheticians *Guinea Pigs
Is Joovv a reputable company?
Not according to customer reviews breakage and absence of communication
What are you adoctor of though?🤔🤔🤔🤔
I'm a cosmetic dr
Wow, when he didn’t know what CE stood for it made me question everything he has to say.
Lol, it's European conformity but in french
I actually prefer the honesty of someone saying I don't know that instead of making something up. Much easier to trust the knowledge they do know
@@patsytaylor7407 I agree with you in most cases, but any medical professional should know this.
It’s like asking what does MD stand for?
No, they shouldn't. CE is french, that's like saying any medical professional should speak french.
You’ve just revealed yourself as a charlatan. I’m a non-French speaking, American (lol) who is not a healthcare professional, but works closely with them and even I know what CE is. Oh, brother - these naïve and gullible people watching TH-cam and being influenced by all you posers.
How would you rate Lumara?