Great couple of videos. Getting ready to do some work on my buddy's 900 GT Pro and this episode and the previous one will definitely come in handy. Thanks! Cheers from AL!
Just thinking about the cam chain tensioner, as no other parts have been replaced the slack in the chain wont change, so whilst you did it to the book it did rattle on initial start up due to the chain being so slack, I dont see why we couldnt just push the tensioner in just a couple of mm which would reduce the initial start up slack.
Well, you can’t adjust the tensioner… it’s preloaded and engaged during installation and needs oil pressure to self-adjust. I’m coming up on 24k miles and will be doing this again… if I find a way to do as you ask, I will update the video/notes.
I am assuming the internal spring doesn't push it all the way out on removal, Im due to do this service next month so will also investigate @@BlueADV214
Hey Blue Adv. With these videos you are giving my friend and I the confidence to do the 12k valve clearances on our 900s this winter, in the UK. Would you be happy if I pinged you a couple of messages about this? Regarding service kit part numbers etc.? Many thanks
I would recommend OEM shims because they come in increments of .025mm vs HotCams which only come in increments of .050mm. It will make getting your gap within limits easier.
Wow, remarkable attention to detail. I am afraid I am guilty of way too many shortcuts. A Harley Master Mechanic friend uses a torque wrench on almost every bolt, he makes fun of me. You would make fun of him. Well done!!! Do you have any idea what the real difference is between the 900 engine and the 850? I have a 2021 850 Sport, added a bunch of bells and whistles, engine/tank guards, high front fender kit, EBAY used 21" spoked front rim, new front brake lines, 50/50 Mitas E-10 tires, I have been able to go everywhere my friend's KTM 890 Adventure R goes, as we go aggressive off road camping a lot. I used Tune ECU to custom re-program/map my 850 to same as 900 Rally Pro Sport mode and left the rain mode as was. I actually improved on the 900 map, gave more 100% at higher throttle %'s. The only differences I saw in the maps was with the throttle position, as the 850 did not give as much % per same RPM. It does not make sense to me that Triumph would change cams or anything else in the two motors, as that would cause two production lines, one for each motor, that's why I got the 850. Deal er gave me free heated grips and the better suspension was not a big deal to me, could change once this one wears out. I have 13k miles on it now. Please let me know if you are aware of any other differences in the two engines.
I haven’t worked on the 850, but imagine they are nearly identical except for the small change in displacement and fuel mapping. The place to really look is the parts list. If the part numbers match, they are the same. I have used this to cross reference aftermarket parts with OEM parts that aren’t listed as a direct fitment… like fork seals.
It’s not quite true that putting an extension on a torque wrench at a 90 deg angle does not change the torque applied as it does change the distance from the center of the bolt to the center of the handle. With short extensions the change in distance is minimal though. The longer the extension, the more pronounced the error is. If you are using a ratcheting torque wrench you can can index the extension so that the bolt to handle distance remains the same and tape it in place.
We aren’t building rockets here… and even if we were, which I actually used to do, the application is not so drastic that you would need to worry about what the relatively insignificant difference would be.
@@BlueADV214 I understand. I just wanted to throw that out there for those that might take that as gospel and try using a foot long extension on a different application. Great job on the videos.
Great couple of videos. Getting ready to do some work on my buddy's 900 GT Pro and this episode and the previous one will definitely come in handy. Thanks! Cheers from AL!
Excellent note on the torque wrench off-set usage.
Once again , awesome content! Thanks for taking the time to do this., Excellent complement to the service manual
Great information thanks. But you gave the tension for the first stage when installing the cam ladder but not the second stage. Cheers
Sorry about that. Hopefully the manual made it clearer than I did.
Fine job undertaken,thks.
Excellent video, quite different to the 800 Xcx
Nice work dude
Just thinking about the cam chain tensioner, as no other parts have been replaced the slack in the chain wont change, so whilst you did it to the book it did rattle on initial start up due to the chain being so slack, I dont see why we couldnt just push the tensioner in just a couple of mm which would reduce the initial start up slack.
Well, you can’t adjust the tensioner… it’s preloaded and engaged during installation and needs oil pressure to self-adjust. I’m coming up on 24k miles and will be doing this again… if I find a way to do as you ask, I will update the video/notes.
I am assuming the internal spring doesn't push it all the way out on removal, Im due to do this service next month so will also investigate @@BlueADV214
Hey Blue Adv. With these videos you are giving my friend and I the confidence to do the 12k valve clearances on our 900s this winter, in the UK. Would you be happy if I pinged you a couple of messages about this? Regarding service kit part numbers etc.?
Many thanks
Glad to help
@@BlueADV214 popped you a message on triumphrat!
Thank you for sharing!! I see HOTCAMS are sold everywhere online, any suggestions where to buy?
I would recommend OEM shims because they come in increments of .025mm vs HotCams which only come in increments of .050mm. It will make getting your gap within limits easier.
@@BlueADV214 Thanks!
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Wow, remarkable attention to detail. I am afraid I am guilty of way too many shortcuts. A Harley Master Mechanic friend uses a torque wrench on almost every bolt, he makes fun of me. You would make fun of him. Well done!!!
Do you have any idea what the real difference is between the 900 engine and the 850? I have a 2021 850 Sport, added a bunch of bells and whistles, engine/tank guards, high front fender kit, EBAY used 21" spoked front rim, new front brake lines, 50/50 Mitas E-10 tires, I have been able to go everywhere my friend's KTM 890 Adventure R goes, as we go aggressive off road camping a lot. I used Tune ECU to custom re-program/map my 850 to same as 900 Rally Pro Sport mode and left the rain mode as was. I actually improved on the 900 map, gave more 100% at higher throttle %'s. The only differences I saw in the maps was with the throttle position, as the 850 did not give as much % per same RPM. It does not make sense to me that Triumph would change cams or anything else in the two motors, as that would cause two production lines, one for each motor, that's why I got the 850. Deal er gave me free heated grips and the better suspension was not a big deal to me, could change once this one wears out. I have 13k miles on it now. Please let me know if you are aware of any other differences in the two engines.
I haven’t worked on the 850, but imagine they are nearly identical except for the small change in displacement and fuel mapping. The place to really look is the parts list. If the part numbers match, they are the same. I have used this to cross reference aftermarket parts with OEM parts that aren’t listed as a direct fitment… like fork seals.
my dealer had my 2022 tiger rally pro for one day doing the 12k service. Is that normal? They told me they would keep it for two days.
That seems like a short period of time considering how much stuff has to be removed/inspected/replaced/reassembled… sounds suspicious to me.
It’s not quite true that putting an extension on a torque wrench at a 90 deg angle does not change the torque applied as it does change the distance from the center of the bolt to the center of the handle. With short extensions the change in distance is minimal though. The longer the extension, the more pronounced the error is. If you are using a ratcheting torque wrench you can can index the extension so that the bolt to handle distance remains the same and tape it in place.
We aren’t building rockets here… and even if we were, which I actually used to do, the application is not so drastic that you would need to worry about what the relatively insignificant difference would be.
@@BlueADV214 I understand. I just wanted to throw that out there for those that might take that as gospel and try using a foot long extension on a different application. Great job on the videos.