The best way Ive learned to change mine in slam the clutch cover against a rock on the trail. You may be stranded, but all you gear oil will drain out that I promise.
some dumbass who owned the bike before me put a hole in the clutch cover and just patched it with silicone. now I'm left with a bike that ran at least half a mile before I realized it was completely empty of gear oil and it was hard to shift.
@dirtbikechannel Kyle, if you have the ability, you should do more how-to videos. They're super helpful and they become a necessity for people to watch. Thank you for your hard work! I enjoy every bit of the content you create.
I was sitting here cringing when you were loosening that plug. Getting ready to change the gear oil on my kid’s cr80 right now. We bought it used and am constantly finding things that need done. Great video.
I change mine on my 300 every 5-10 hours.......usually every 5 or so rides (only ride for an hour or two at a time). It's a simple 10 minute thing to do and oil's cheap enough. Keep it fresh.
Quick look at the parts diagram on Rocky Mountain ATV/MC shows a 12mm drain plug washer. You can get a 12mm copper or aluminum drain plug washer at any auto parts store. It's a common size on cars.
Bit of advice. Take a file to the 2 teeth on the brake pedal closest to the clutch cover. 2 lads I know have punctured the cover in the last week on old hondas but dropping them. Brake pedal Pearce’s it with the two teeth mentioned. Teeth/cleets what ever you wish to call them.
yo just a heads up about yz250, the 2003 at least. the gear oil weep screw is not accurate. it takes 750ml, and if you go by the bleed screw you will have no where near enough and bad things will happen
The oil drain plug gets tighter with the heat. I'm not saying someone didn't over tighten it but they will always be harder to remove after the cycles of heat exchange.
Put the Crf 450 coil on there MEB or HP1 is for the TRX That's the replacement coil for the kz4 2000 to 2007 Cr125 an Cr250 Can be up to 1.5 HP Better spark almost zero chance of failing your spark plug out
How did you keep your white shirt so clean? Anytime I wear white and work on something I get a stain and have to retire the shirt as a rag LOL. Preventive maintenance is fairly easy in general. Take care of your bike and it will take care of you. 👍
A soft copper washer can be had at any local hardare store for 10 cents..There is no excuse for not having one. I GUARANTEE your bie warrantee depends on one
so watched your video and please correct me if i am wrong but the clutch side usually takes gear oil usually a thicker viscosity than the engine oil which fills on the engine side or the side where the foot shift lever is correct? brake lever side w clutch cover gets gear oil correct? thanks in advance for the clarification.. have a great day, cheers, -P3T3R
I was warming up my 02 CR250 3 days ago because I was gunna try to see if my new JD jetting kit would put an end to my plug fouling problem and also try putting some RotellaT6 in the case to stop the clutch from dragging so bad. So I cross the highway to go to the dirt roads and I road the hell out of that thing for about 20 minutes and got back to my house shut it off and put it back on the stand, but the stand was too far and I had no where to lay the bike so I yelled for my mom and she came. She noticed some dark grey dripping on our tan colored porch and the bottom frame of the bike and asked what it was, I said idk it’s probably the sludge that leaks out the pipe, but then she bent down and told me I was missing something and that there is a hole, and sure enough the oil drain bolt was gone, I was honestly terrified because I’ve only had this bike for 2 months and it in great condition. So I basically rode without oil, I traced my patch to try to find where it fell out hoping to see an oil trail, but I didn’t. So I’ve either ridden it twice without oil or lost it that day, it kinda crazy to me that on the same day I was gunna change the oil that the bike changed it by itself. Apparently oil plug falling out is a big problem with the 02-05 cr250s, and oil not getting to the plates, and rich jetting are all issues with the 02-05s LOL
Guys please help Very very new to dirt bikes I have a 70cc 2stroke little bike So is this transmission oil in the video and does it do the job or do i need to mix with the gas too or what i really know nothing !
I have about $ 4,000 into mine on top of the $ 2,000 that l paid for it ! It is a beautiful example of a CR 250 last generation . People always ask me if l want to sell it....never.
Thanks you just blew my bottom end up cause i just let it fill until oil came out the overflow screw like u said. Where as i needed like twice as much looking at manual online now
Holy smokes, I would have thought you guys would have had the bottom end apart, after all the $ spent on this project. I like to use a clean plan so you can see if there is any metal particles.
How often do you have to change the oil filter on a 4 stroke? And how often do you have to change the engine oil on a 4 stroke also? (Im a begginer and i dont want to mess up my bike)
Mine has a magnetic tip drain bolt with washer 2003 . Draining for 1 hour warm engine, it takes 21-22 ounces . Even trail riding interval is 6 hours 8 hours is about all l would go. That oil that came out was horrible . Probably had 30 hours on it ! 6 hours Not 30-40 Hours, that's Crazy !
I have the same bike and change my oil every 5-6 hours ! A factory AMA motocross mechanic told me to use high quality oil such as ( Maxima MTL fluid 80 wt. ) and change it every 4-6 hours even if you are not racing. The bike takes 22 fl.oz. after 30 minute drain. Do Not change your oil 20 - 40 hours, your clutch won't last more than that if you do !
I've walked through the pits at the Supercross and talked with the mechanics of various teams. Without exception they all tell me they run ATF in the gearbox of these bikes. I wonder what the "gear oil" is comprised of with some of these oil companies?
Yeah Fredman and some people still believe candle wax can still work better than products engineered to lube the chain. That was my point the whole atf thing is just as silly. Why use an automotive product in place of something that has been engineered for motorcycles. Those teams have educated professionals employed that understand this also. they don't need to save money either. But I will say again sometimes it's fun to give the public tech tips, if you know what I mean 😉
Its been pointed out on recent threads that Gas Gas, Sherco, Beta and, until recently KTM recommend ATF in the gearboxes of their 2 strokes. KTM is now in bed with Motorex who will sell you the recommended gear oil for $13 a quart. Please keep buying their "engineered" oil, silly is as silly does...
Lance, ktm has used motorex exclusively since 2004 as their factory fill and recommended oil. Even 10years before that it was advised to use a high quality 4t engine oil for wet clutch as the two stroke transmission case fill. I didn't recall further back than that and the service literature is archived in the library somewhere. My point is there isn't a dirt bike manufacture that I know of that recommends using automotive automatic transmission fluid in a dirt bike transmission case. Even the bike in the video calls for a 4 stroke wet clutch engine oil. Many auto oils including atfs have friction modifiers in them that do not allow a wet clutch to work correctly. I know people have used type f atf and rotella but these again are not recommended and have been disproved as to doing the job correctly when used in dirt bikes. Not to mention these oils are not made for the high heat and load that is produced in a dirt bike. transmission. Now I'm sure there is plenty of good information here and on the forums you visit but there is also a lot of good information from the scientists, engineers and technicians that develop these machines and the maintenance products.
@@benschreur8226 I used the manual recommended weight oil my bike calls for 10w40 so I used 10w40 4t it's fine for the gear oil just like any other 10w40
so are there gears oils and engine oils? does ur bike for example have seperate gear oil and engine oil locations? or do you just use one oil and it shares the engine oil to cool the clutch? im not a pro please help me ive been wondering the answer to this for years... please help me answer this age old question!!! god bless, -P3T3R
Jeremy Villegas yea actually there is the engine oil drain and fill plugs and then drain on the clutch side.. most bikes except the dry clutch setup on ducatis for example have a wet clutch system so it will have some oil in there bike specific of course but there is a drain and fill for the clutch as well.. good sign the two are mixing which is a gasket issue most of the time is milky looking oil when u go to change the main engine oil.. I had the issue on an old 89 cr 125 but hope that helps cuz I never got a reply
@@PeterPiccolo so basically the clutch side is the transmission/gear box that you use a different oil for and the main engine oil is on the other side? Thanks man you're the best! Sorry nobody helped you out but I'll definitely pass this on to someone who is just as confused as we were
@@jeremyvillegas572 this a 2 stroke so you need to mix gas and 2nstroke oil for the engine and the only oil you have to change on a 2 stroke is the trans oil
The best way Ive learned to change mine in slam the clutch cover against a rock on the trail. You may be stranded, but all you gear oil will drain out that I promise.
That made me laugh lol
Or your rear brake pedal slams into your clutch
😄😄😄😄
some dumbass who owned the bike before me put a hole in the clutch cover and just patched it with silicone. now I'm left with a bike that ran at least half a mile before I realized it was completely empty of gear oil and it was hard to shift.
@@levistrnad2965 Dang that sucks, did it damage the trans???
@dirtbikechannel Kyle, if you have the ability, you should do more how-to videos. They're super helpful and they become a necessity for people to watch. Thank you for your hard work! I enjoy every bit of the content you create.
absolutely just bought my first bike last week because of you . Bought some gear now the learning curve begins
Definitely!
Wow they torqued the pan plug in. Dorks
I was sitting here cringing when you were loosening that plug. Getting ready to change the gear oil on my kid’s cr80 right now. We bought it used and am constantly finding things that need done. Great video.
I change mine on my 300 every 5-10 hours.......usually every 5 or so rides (only ride for an hour or two at a time). It's a simple 10 minute thing to do and oil's cheap enough. Keep it fresh.
5 is not needed at all. But good that you have it as a habit 😁
Yeah, it's not necessary to wash your bike after every ride either, but I do that as well.
@@shogun678 Haha....yes, because a set of tires, priced very close to a quart of oil....why wouldn't you?
I change mine once a year lol.
Bike is 20 years old now still pulling strong
Quick look at the parts diagram on Rocky Mountain ATV/MC shows a 12mm drain plug washer. You can get a 12mm copper or aluminum drain plug washer at any auto parts store. It's a common size on cars.
Why are his jokes making me laugh more than I should? 😂😂
because you want his body
Maybe you just smoked one😤
Hope you keep it. I wanna see videos of you ridding it.
I kind of needed ASAP today
Bit of advice. Take a file to the 2 teeth on the brake pedal closest to the clutch cover. 2 lads I know have punctured the cover in the last week on old hondas but dropping them. Brake pedal Pearce’s it with the two teeth mentioned. Teeth/cleets what ever you wish to call them.
yo just a heads up about yz250, the 2003 at least. the gear oil weep screw is not accurate. it takes 750ml, and if you go by the bleed screw you will have no where near enough and bad things will happen
My 2003 cr250 that he is filling is the exact same!!
@@Bananahammock88 😯 I just got the exact same bike, checked this weep plug and I had to tip the bike to get oil to come out
@@Bananahammock88 same with my 01 cr250. It said it takes 1.75 quarts and I got to not even a full quart and it over flowed.
@@az_tech6948 that’s about what I got as well. Now I just leave the weep screw in, and fill with 1.75
@@Bananahammock88 check my riding videos out if ya got time as i got a '03 cr250
Allways great videos
You could always use permatex thread sealant if you don't have a crush washer.
if you have a YZ250 dont use the level check bolt because its way to low and only lets you put half the right amount of oil.
I'm glad to find that out before I make a whoopsie. Thank you
Cheers brother
Same with honda cr 125
Sweet vid!
Thanks bro it's been too long
The oil drain plug gets tighter with the heat. I'm not saying someone didn't over tighten it but they will always be harder to remove after the cycles of heat exchange.
I use ATF in my bike works like a charm
thank you so much 😄
it would have been nice to see just how slow the drip was before you put the over flow plug back in.
Put the Crf 450 coil on there MEB or HP1 is for the TRX
That's the replacement coil for the kz4 2000 to 2007 Cr125 an Cr250
Can be up to 1.5 HP
Better spark almost zero chance of failing your spark plug out
How did you keep your white shirt so clean? Anytime I wear white and work on something I get a stain and have to retire the shirt as a rag LOL.
Preventive maintenance is fairly easy in general. Take care of your bike and it will take care of you. 👍
I drained the plug above that one. Think it was for radiator fluid. Going back out to check. 05 cr250
Love the vids but did any one else see the huge copper washer on the coolant drain bolt at 7:25
Nice bike 👍
A soft copper washer can be had at any local hardare store for 10 cents..There is no excuse for not having one. I GUARANTEE your bie warrantee depends on one
honda cr250 2001 i think its better for enduro riding you can make some changes on power valve
Thanks again Kyle :)
You take the second-guessing aout of us water babies ;0
You can definitely find magnetic plugs for those with the washer on ebay.
My 2003 CR 250 has a copper crush washer on the drain bolt
Weep plug? Never heard it called that. Lol I like the big copper washer on the water pump cover though.
so watched your video and please correct me if i am wrong but the clutch side usually takes gear oil usually a thicker viscosity than the engine oil which fills on the engine side or the side where the foot shift lever is correct? brake lever side w clutch cover gets gear oil correct? thanks in advance for the clarification.. have a great day, cheers,
-P3T3R
Is the transmition oil the same as the engine oil
I was draining my oil and forgot to put the like beating thing on the bolt, is that bad that the bearing thing isn’t on the bolt?
What kind of oil did you use?
“Latex is good for protection” damn u got them jokes
I was warming up my 02 CR250 3 days ago because I was gunna try to see if my new JD jetting kit would put an end to my plug fouling problem and also try putting some RotellaT6 in the case to stop the clutch from dragging so bad. So I cross the highway to go to the dirt roads and I road the hell out of that thing for about 20 minutes and got back to my house shut it off and put it back on the stand, but the stand was too far and I had no where to lay the bike so I yelled for my mom and she came. She noticed some dark grey dripping on our tan colored porch and the bottom frame of the bike and asked what it was, I said idk it’s probably the sludge that leaks out the pipe, but then she bent down and told me I was missing something and that there is a hole, and sure enough the oil drain bolt was gone, I was honestly terrified because I’ve only had this bike for 2 months and it in great condition. So I basically rode without oil, I traced my patch to try to find where it fell out hoping to see an oil trail, but I didn’t. So I’ve either ridden it twice without oil or lost it that day, it kinda crazy to me that on the same day I was gunna change the oil that the bike changed it by itself. Apparently oil plug falling out is a big problem with the 02-05 cr250s, and oil not getting to the plates, and rich jetting are all issues with the 02-05s LOL
Lmaoo
What size crush washer does the Cr 250 2 stroke use on the oil drain bolt ???
2 years old and still using this video
Any idea's where I could order a skid plate for my 2000 cr 125r
How many bottles need for my dirt bike 1988 250cc honda two strock and which one is the best.
can you just warm it up by idling or should you ride it?
I have a kx85 and my oil been coming out milky i still have lot of compression & the bike turns on 1st kick and runs perfectly find any help ?
What’s going on with the metal screw ?
Do 2 strokes have a oil filter like 4 strokes?
does atf type f means ford mercon? does the sae matter? i saw a sae20 available
What iff it’s a bit milky ?? What would u think the problem would be??
what gear oil do you recommend for a 2004 CR85 please
Good stuff. My kdx220 calls for 10w40 motorcycle oil. Wonder why some use gear oil and others the 10w30-40? That's quite a spread
Bit old but gear oil is opinion for a 4 stroke at least you can youse 10-40 for engine oil and gear
Can I get gear oil at my local NAPA or O'Reilly Auto parts?
I couldn’t find any gear oil so I just got 10w 30 engine oil and it says gasoline engines it’s not the mix for the fuel but im afraid to Try it
People is saying put 10w40 motorcycle oil is that good to use on a cr 125r
What size wrench for the plug
I looked it up they said you could use four stroke regular oil in the gearbox
Guys please help
Very very new to dirt bikes
I have a 70cc 2stroke little bike
So is this transmission oil in the video and does it do the job or do i need to mix with the gas too or what i really know nothing !
what oil did he use
what kind of oil should i use?
What do I run on my 2001 cr250r🙏
Can i use transmission oil
So how many miles would that be I'm going to go by Miles
Lol that coolant plug washer
When a 15 year old bike looks better than all the new ktm/husqies🤔
it had updated plastics lol
KSH172 dont think he meant plastics hes saying overall
I have about $ 4,000 into mine on top of the $ 2,000 that l paid for it ! It is a beautiful example of a CR 250 last generation . People always ask me if l want to sell it....never.
Kyle I think the problem you were having loosing the drain plug is due to the brand of the tool.
Thanks you just blew my bottom end up cause i just let it fill until oil came out the overflow screw like u said. Where as i needed like twice as much looking at manual online now
Dinner Chief your bottom end has nothing to do with the transmission oil😂😂
@@ashtonlyons1435 yeah your right i should have just ran no oil for weight reduction
@@uberleet01 lmao
looks like the old aluminum washer was stuck on the drain plug. had been reused so many times it looks like its a part of the plug.
just a flange bolt.
Holy smokes, I would have thought you guys would have had the bottom end
apart, after all the $ spent on this project. I like to use a clean plan so you can see if there is any metal particles.
clean pan, not plan
Hi just found this channel,subscribed,also can you or anybody tell me where to get a kickstand for a 99 CR 250?
Fastway kickstands are awesome and easy to install
@@robertviramontes7639 thanks man 👌🏻👍🏻
Why do.some people put motor oil in the engine on 2T
How often do you have to change the oil filter on a 4 stroke? And how often do you have to change the engine oil on a 4 stroke also? (Im a begginer and i dont want to mess up my bike)
Depends, if it's a trail bike every 50 hours would be fije
Mine has a magnetic tip drain bolt with washer 2003 . Draining for 1 hour warm engine, it takes 21-22 ounces . Even trail riding interval is 6 hours 8 hours is about all l would go. That oil that came out was horrible . Probably had 30 hours on it ! 6 hours Not 30-40 Hours, that's Crazy !
not doing very well with your copper washers are you. The one on the water pump made me laugh :')
Have the same bike, what gear oil are you using? Having a tough time finding what viscosity the 03's call for.
Same let me know if you find out thanks
Would dicks oil co’s 80w wet clutch oil do the same as the oil used in this video?
Don't use the weep bolt on 2003 yz250. You will end up with 250 ml short of what is needed! 🤔
I have a 2018 250sx any advice for removing the rear break spring to have easier access to the weap hole
brake spring/weep hole -because spelling matters ;p
No owners manual?
I have the same bike and change my oil every 5-6 hours ! A factory AMA motocross mechanic told me to use high quality oil such as ( Maxima MTL fluid 80 wt. ) and change it every 4-6 hours even if you are not racing. The bike takes 22 fl.oz. after 30 minute drain. Do Not change your oil 20 - 40 hours, your clutch won't last more than that if you do !
Would it be da same oil on a cr125
If I got free oil too from my said sponsor, I would too! :-}
Most Japanese bikes don’t come with copper washers on there drain bolt
What kinda of gear oil did you use and what should I use I have a kx 100
Google what gear oil your bike uses
use automatic trans fluid
Is there a difference between gear oil and transmission oil?
Jordaan Du Plessis one says gear and the other says transmission
Over torqued drain plug and no crush washer: prior owner lost washer, over tightened to compensate and avoid leakage
Guys push up on the screw when you take it out so you won't get all kind of oil all over your hands
so happy my oil drain plug isnt on the bottom. so much roost/rocks hitting down there. its bound to strip
Yeah, but this is a motocross bike, so it's not that big of a deal for its intended use
How the hell can a rock strip a bolt
I got a yz125 and I stripped it by overtighting it
Hey Kyle is there a safe product you can fill the gearbox up with and let it drain out to you flush it. Thanks for the videos
Diesel fuel will do the trick! Fill it up, put it in gear and turn it by hand! Flush it out and put fresh oil in it again.
Oh that bike flies I love that fat pipe
I've walked through the pits at the Supercross and talked with the mechanics of various teams. Without exception they all tell me they run ATF in the gearbox of these bikes. I wonder what the "gear oil" is comprised of with some of these oil companies?
Lance G. What’s ATF?
Also it is best to use candle wax on your chain.... and sometimes it is entertaining to give tech tips to the public 😁
Yeah Fredman and some people still believe candle wax can still work better than products engineered to lube the chain. That was my point the whole atf thing is just as silly. Why use an automotive product in place of something that has been engineered for motorcycles. Those teams have educated professionals employed that understand this also. they don't need to save money either. But I will say again sometimes it's fun to give the public tech tips, if you know what I mean 😉
Its been pointed out on recent threads that Gas Gas, Sherco, Beta and, until recently KTM recommend ATF in the gearboxes of their 2 strokes. KTM is now in bed with Motorex who will sell you the recommended gear oil for $13 a quart. Please keep buying their "engineered" oil, silly is as silly does...
Lance, ktm has used motorex exclusively since 2004 as their factory fill and recommended oil. Even 10years before that it was advised to use a high quality 4t engine oil for wet clutch as the two stroke transmission case fill. I didn't recall further back than that and the service literature is archived in the library somewhere. My point is there isn't a dirt bike manufacture that I know of that recommends using automotive automatic transmission fluid in a dirt bike transmission case. Even the bike in the video calls for a 4 stroke wet clutch engine oil. Many auto oils including atfs have friction modifiers in them that do not allow a wet clutch to work correctly. I know people have used type f atf and rotella but these again are not recommended and have been disproved as to doing the job correctly when used in dirt bikes. Not to mention these oils are not made for the high heat and load that is produced in a dirt bike. transmission. Now I'm sure there is plenty of good information here and on the forums you visit but there is also a lot of good information from the scientists, engineers and technicians that develop these machines and the maintenance products.
Can I use mobile 1 racing 4t oil in my 250 2 stroke it is 10w40 and that's what's recommended
Same problem 2 years later. What you end up using?
@@benschreur8226 I used the manual recommended weight oil my bike calls for 10w40 so I used 10w40 4t it's fine for the gear oil just like any other 10w40
Why is the transmission oil red? Is it a specific kind? My manual says 10w40 motor oil???
I'm so confused is engine oil, gear box oil and transmission oil the same thing? So many videos with different titles
@@jeremyvillegas572 I'm trying to figure out the same fucking thing. Does my 2 stroke need 2 types of oil? And where do they go? Ffs
@@ryanlahay9361 if im not mistaken you need to change the gear box oil every 10-20 hrs, then the oil you mix with the gas lubricates everything else
@@jeremyvillegas572 I know this is a late reply, but when In doubt, follow manufacturers recommendation.
I change every 15-20h on my 125 exc. When it gets to 20h+ I start to notice it when I ride
How do you notice it?
@@jordaanduplessis3024 Could be just superstition but it feels like changing gears is not as smooth and accurate anymore.
Matias Karjalainen I get that too
Is gear oil the same thing as transmission fluid
Yes
The fluids themself are very different so NO gear oil and Trans fluid are not even remotely the same but some people use either or
oil seep screw is oil minimum
What oil did you use
I think he purposefully didnt show us because most people never agree on what oil to use.
so are there gears oils and engine oils? does ur bike for example have seperate gear oil and engine oil locations? or do you just use one oil and it shares the engine oil to cool the clutch? im not a pro please help me ive been wondering the answer to this for years... please help me answer this age old question!!! god bless,
-P3T3R
Have you figured this out? Have the same question
Jeremy Villegas yea actually there is the engine oil drain and fill plugs and then drain on the clutch side.. most bikes except the dry clutch setup on ducatis for example have a wet clutch system so it will have some oil in there bike specific of course but there is a drain and fill for the clutch as well.. good sign the two are mixing which is a gasket issue most of the time is milky looking oil when u go to change the main engine oil.. I had the issue on an old 89 cr 125 but hope that helps cuz I never got a reply
Jeremy Villegas so I did some thinking and research and taught myself the correct answer..
@@PeterPiccolo so basically the clutch side is the transmission/gear box that you use a different oil for and the main engine oil is on the other side? Thanks man you're the best! Sorry nobody helped you out but I'll definitely pass this on to someone who is just as confused as we were
@@jeremyvillegas572 this a 2 stroke so you need to mix gas and 2nstroke oil for the engine and the only oil you have to change on a 2 stroke is the trans oil
I change my CR250 gear oil every 6 or 9 hours
Cr is just over a half court by book
All over the world, millions of 2 stroke owners are asking themselves "GEAR OIL?? wtf is THAT?"
Yes I'm so confused bro. So 2 strokes don't even use this or?
those gloves are probably nitrile though, not latex
I got a 1999
The "weep hole" is only useful when the bike is dead on level
Hobbit Homes and if it’s not a yz250😂 it’s good for about 400ml on those. Some engineer didn’t get his coffee that day😂
Someone done his acl by the looks of that brace..