Gonna save my ass with this one, new tappets and adjustables en route. Got a spicy new to me T/C that's making a heap of racket with valve ticking and loud lifters when she's warmed up.
Thanks for the tip on confirming TDC for the cylinder by checking through the corresponding spark plug port. Didnt think of that. Now I just got to hope I'm on the base circle and not the compression release for the easy start cams...
Awesome video im doing my 114 this week is it the same with the 4 turns it’s confusing some videos say 3 1/2 I got the. S&S. Rods half a turn makes a big difference thank you. 👍🏻
Great content! was also wondering if you ever gave a thought to drag racing your Harley road race bike? As a guy who drag raced motorcycles and cars for quite a few years I think your road race bike would lend itself greatly to drag racing with little more than a rear tire change, and some suspension adjustments (if you have double adjustable valving on the front and rear).
Honestly I’m doing way too many things right now to put something else on my plate. I did spend a lot of years drag racing in my early 20s it was a good time
I usually use a drill motor to turn those nuts, a lot faster and more precise. I’ll usually chuck up a calibrated spring and do them in half the time that it took you to do one.
can you guys do a video on Dyna Death wobble, and ways to fix it?? There is nothing on youtube about it. Love the videos, keep em coming!! Maybe even do a couch video hanging out discussing Dyna Death Wobble
I recently replaced my rocket box gaskets. I’m wondering when do push rods or lifters need replaced? I still have the stock OEM ones on a 15 street glide
Awesome Thanks so much took me awile to find someone doing a sporster Should the engine be warm my bike does sit for days at a time and im thinking the lifters bleed off after a few hours any thoughts ?
About to complete my first adjustment. I'm supposed to do it on a cold bike right? Someone said the lifters need to be pumped up. How does one do that with the lifters installed in the bike already?
Glad I found this. Best video on the tube. You could be my younger fucking brother. Just installed a EV27 cam and Fueling lifters in a '96 FXDWG and got a lot of ticking. Need to readjust. Fucking killer video
So I have a question, I just did fueling +hop lifters and fuel moto push rods, was quiet for 1000 miles and yesterday it started making noise. Can I just put the cylinder in TDC back off my push rod and re adjust? Or do I need to pull the lifters and pump them up and adjust?
@@kruesioriginals as far as failing idk i had a set of factory lifters go bad after 10k miles with Andrews 57H cam. So I purchased the fueling HP lifters then ran them for a 1000 miles and they started clattering so re adjusted them and they are quiet again so hopefully they are good now
What happens if I adjust the pushrod to spec and its tight after letting it bleed down for 30 minutes? I believe I have andrews in my bike and the book calls for 3 to 4 turns. I went 3 and a half and its been 30 minutes and they are sill not able to spin freely?
Just got my first Harley "decided to switch after 10 years on rice rockets" how do you know if they need adjusting? Mines all stock and has 7500miles right now. Is there a sound I'm looking for here?
When getting ready to adjust the PRs for the rear cylinder - do you also get the rear cylinder to TDC? I'm working on a 97 Dyna and TDC on the front cylinder is a straight line ("/" keyboard straight line 😁). What mark is for the rear cylinder?
If my push rods were set at 16 flats and should of been 10 flats . Would that be enough difference to not get correct compression to get spark and not fire at all ?
@@kruesioriginals Your the man appreciate it, my son and I are working on Harley in a few hours, I was told that my compensator may of not been put together correctly to get my crank sensor to work for spark also. Going to try and figure out after taking off primary cover IF put together correctly.
I have brand new screaming eagle lifters also bro. It's a complete rebuild with darkhorse crank 10.25.1 screaming eagle pistons and screaming eagle ported heads with screaming eagle ported Intake and mikuni 45mm and the tw60a Andrews cams .560 lift. My valve springs support up to .580
Larry McGregor You have to measure the thread pitch and do the math on it. If you’re not a skilled mechanic you should either just buy a different set of pushrods and start with something you know that you have, or take it to a professional you can seriously fuck some shit up with this if you do it wrong.
Kruesi, once they’re adjusted and after I’ve ridden if I bring the piston to TDC and check the tightness of the pushrods should I be able to spin them by hand still after lifters pump back up?
Only if you have adjustable pushrods, and I really doubt they would go out just from being dropped that could be a million different things. Probably something outside of the motor rattling most likely
on this valve adjust. we go to cylinder 2 which is the rear unit and get compression stroke to adjust cylinder 1 the front??? i would think that cylinder 1 the front piston would be on the overlap stroke??? am i wrong??? also i would have compression on both cylinders if i had no push rods in motor yet valves are closed due to i am installing adjustable push rods... so should i look at the position of the lifters to be all the way down position on the heel of the cam? on that cylinder i am about to adjust ? and would it be ok to adjust both cylinders in that position ??? i would think yes. because i just saw you setting compression stroke on rear cylinder then adjust from cylinder ???? so are both cylinders on compression stoke at the same time??? is one cylinder on compression stoke and other on overlap position??? i don't understand...
Watch again , he explained that after finding TDC on the rear cylinder he realized it would be easier to film the adjustrment on the front cylinder . so off camera he rotated the motor to TDC on the front cylinder , Also he mentioned but didn't show another way of finding TDC on compression which is to expose the pushrods and watch them move and when the cylinder at TDC is on compression the pushrods for that cylinder will be on base curve and not move at all but on overlap one pushrod will be moving up and the other one down
@@kruesioriginals Ok Thanks appreciate help, going to adjust my 2010 Limited FLHTK sometime this week. Harley Davidson adjustable push rods 2.5 turns for mine Harley correct ? Screamin Eagle adjustable push rods. What is the website for getting parts from you ? Could not find a link or name ?
Why in video did you bring no 2 piston to top then you adjusted no 1 piston .I thought when no 2 up top is when you adjust shorty pushrod then get no 1 up to top and adjust pushrod
I covered all that in the video you should probably watch it again. I just didn’t show it on the video and I talked about how I just didn’t showed in the video.
I always thought a Harley mechanic had to be bald headed, wear mirror shades, have plenty of facial hair and have a butt load of tattoos. Oh ya, whenever you have your picture taken you absolutely, positively have to cross your arms and have a look on your face that says "my bowels have not moved in 14 days". So, therefore you need to get crackin on this if you want to have any street cred.
I have watched tons of "How To" videos and your 's are always the most helpful! Keep up the awesome work!
Great video man ! Short, Sweet, Clear, Simple, To the Point.......DONE
Loved it !!!!
Glad you liked it!
one of the best most forward videos on PR adjustment. Great video brother even newbies can follow this video and do this
Jeff agree with you 100%
All his videos are great and straight forward lot more should take notes from him for sure
Very first video I found about a year and a half ago.
Keep coming back for the info. Thanks dude, good shit.
Thank you my dude 🤘🏼🤘🏼
I’m glad I stumbled onto this video, very easy and to the point
Thanks for the Video. I watched it and installed my rods with no problems.
Gonna save my ass with this one, new tappets and adjustables en route. Got a spicy new to me T/C that's making a heap of racket with valve ticking and loud lifters when she's warmed up.
Thanks for the tip on confirming TDC for the cylinder by checking through the corresponding spark plug port. Didnt think of that. Now I just got to hope I'm on the base circle and not the compression release for the easy start cams...
Nice to know the difference between S&S and Screaming Eagle 🤘
Best video on this I have seen yet. Thank you!
Thank you my friend
Wow great simple how to vid….….love the dramatic music! Lol 😂🤘😎🤘
Awesome video im doing my 114 this week is it the same with the 4 turns it’s confusing some videos say 3 1/2 I got the. S&S. Rods half a turn makes a big difference thank you. 👍🏻
It depends on what brand pushrods you have. It goes off of thread pitch.
Do 4
Great content! was also wondering if you ever gave a thought to drag racing your Harley road race bike? As a guy who drag raced motorcycles and cars for quite a few years I think your road race bike would lend itself greatly to drag racing with little more than a rear tire change, and some suspension adjustments (if you have double adjustable valving on the front and rear).
Honestly I’m doing way too many things right now to put something else on my plate. I did spend a lot of years drag racing in my early 20s it was a good time
Thanks for the no bullshit straight forward video.
I usually use a drill motor to turn those nuts, a lot faster and more precise. I’ll usually chuck up a calibrated spring and do them in half the time that it took you to do one.
Liked the vid just turn the background music down so we can hear you
can you guys do a video on Dyna Death wobble, and ways to fix it??
There is nothing on youtube about it.
Love the videos, keep em coming!!
Maybe even do a couch video hanging out discussing Dyna Death Wobble
mike labatt you need a chassis stabilizer And new Motor Mounts. They are on our website
Buy an FXR
@@billharmon1084 🎉
I recently replaced my rocket box gaskets. I’m wondering when do push rods or lifters need replaced? I still have the stock OEM ones on a 15 street glide
Love the Star wars music
Fuck yea man, no bullshit, straight to the point, good video, good help!!
Awesome Thanks so much took me awile to find someone doing a sporster Should the engine be warm my bike does sit for days at a time and im thinking the lifters bleed off after a few hours any thoughts ?
Michael Devon Motor should be cold when you do adjustment
Michael Devon do it cold 🥶
Very well explained 👍
Thank you
About to complete my first adjustment. I'm supposed to do it on a cold bike right? Someone said the lifters need to be pumped up. How does one do that with the lifters installed in the bike already?
If the bike has been run at all with those lifters in it, they are pumped up. Yes do it when it is cold.
Not a big fan of the adjustables….but good job you do great work from what I’ve watched….
Glad I found this. Best video on the tube. You could be my younger fucking brother. Just installed a EV27 cam and Fueling lifters in a '96 FXDWG and got a lot of ticking. Need to readjust. Fucking killer video
You might be getting ticking from the cam gear being a little different size than stock
What does it mean if you can spin the pushrods immediately after adjusting them? Seems like I didn’t have to wait for mine to “bleed down”
Pushrods might not have any fluid in them. They might not be bled up properly. You might not have done it wrong. There’s a few scenarios there.
what about o rings. do you have to put new ones in every time you readjust them?
When you're putting the 4 turns on, are you making the pushrod longer, or shorter?
Longer
Great content, thanks for the vid
Very instructive, Thanks!
Do you guys often use chromoly adjustable s&s push rods on your sporty and dyna builds?
Yes, we always use S&S quickie install pushrods
you need to drain the oil when doing an adjustment? I need to readjust mine.
Definitely not
@@kruesioriginals right on haha. Didn't think so, was just curious. Love yall!
My buddy is trying to adjust his rods but for some reason it’s just not getting rid of that sound he’s ready to scrap the bike,, what is going on
Take it to a shop for diag.
So I have a question, I just did fueling +hop lifters and fuel moto push rods, was quiet for 1000 miles and yesterday it started making noise. Can I just put the cylinder in TDC back off my push rod and re adjust? Or do I need to pull the lifters and pump them up and adjust?
Probably just needs readjusted. You usually have to readjust them once after you set them up. But those lifters are junk. They fail all of the time?
@@kruesioriginals the fueling + HP lifters are junk?! 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠 that sucks lol I read good shit about them 😂😂😂
@@kruesioriginals as far as failing idk i had a set of factory lifters go bad after 10k miles with Andrews 57H cam. So I purchased the fueling HP lifters then ran them for a 1000 miles and they started clattering so re adjusted them and they are quiet again so hopefully they are good now
Story! Good stuff🤘
is that what the harley manual says or just a place to start 4 turns
What happens if I adjust the pushrod to spec and its tight after letting it bleed down for 30 minutes? I believe I have andrews in my bike and the book calls for 3 to 4 turns. I went 3 and a half and its been 30 minutes and they are sill not able to spin freely?
You might’ve done it wrong
@@kruesioriginals I had to back them off a half turn and it was fine.
Just got my first Harley "decided to switch after 10 years on rice rockets" how do you know if they need adjusting? Mines all stock and has 7500miles right now. Is there a sound I'm looking for here?
If you're bike is all stock then this video won't apply unless for some reason a previous owner installed quickee or adjustable pushrods.
When getting ready to adjust the PRs for the rear cylinder - do you also get the rear cylinder to TDC?
I'm working on a 97 Dyna and TDC on the front cylinder is a straight line ("/" keyboard straight line 😁). What mark is for the rear cylinder?
Just bring the piston up to the top of the cylinder. You can look through the spark plug hole.
I noticed oil coming out of my pushrod would this fix it??
New orings
If my push rods were set at 16 flats and should of been 10 flats . Would that be enough difference to not get correct compression to get spark and not fire at all ?
There’s supposed to be 10 I would sit them to 10
@@kruesioriginals Your the man appreciate it, my son and I are working on Harley in a few hours, I was told that my compensator may of not been put together correctly to get my crank sensor to work for spark also. Going to try and figure out after taking off primary cover IF put together correctly.
@@Richard5873 16 was probably holding the valve open
This is great thanks man!
My screaming eagle adjustable push rods are at 2¹/² turns and I still have top end noise but I have .560 lift cam tw60a Andrews
Could be lifters or they’re just not adjusted properly
That’s a pretty small cam it should be quiet
I have brand new screaming eagle lifters also bro. It's a complete rebuild with darkhorse crank 10.25.1 screaming eagle pistons and screaming eagle ported heads with screaming eagle ported Intake and mikuni 45mm and the tw60a Andrews cams .560 lift. My valve springs support up to .580
Should be good. You’ll always have a bit of valve noise with an aftermarket cam, but if it get excessive something is wrong. What’s your oil pressure?
@@kruesioriginals I'm not sure damn idiot light but it it's got the screaming eagle upgraded cam plate and oil pump so should be pretty good I reckon.
How do I know what the push rods are ? S&S or stock or whatever? Please help.
Larry McGregor You have to measure the thread pitch and do the math on it. If you’re not a skilled mechanic you should either just buy a different set of pushrods and start with something you know that you have, or take it to a professional you can seriously fuck some shit up with this if you do it wrong.
Do you have to do set each cylinder to top dead center individually?
Franky Flores yep front and rear
Yeah, you want the cams to be off the lobe. Tdc, the no2 cam will almost start contacting the lifter. That's the tricky one if you have hotter cams.
Kruesi, once they’re adjusted and after I’ve ridden if I bring the piston to TDC and check the tightness of the pushrods should I be able to spin them by hand still after lifters pump back up?
Walleye Willy If you adjust them right in the first place you just go ride it if it’s not making noise it’s dialed🤘🏼
What happens if you can’t turn the pushrod after the lifter bleeds down?
Then you probably have HLT lifters with limited travel, and they require a slightly different number of turns.
I dropped my Dyna twin cam in the drive way ( right side) now it makes flapping /tapping noise !! What happened ? Push rod adjustment needed??
Only if you have adjustable pushrods, and I really doubt they would go out just from being dropped that could be a million different things. Probably something outside of the motor rattling most likely
on this valve adjust. we go to cylinder 2 which is the rear unit and get compression stroke to adjust cylinder 1 the front??? i would think that cylinder 1 the front piston would be on the overlap stroke??? am i wrong??? also i would have compression on both cylinders if i had no push rods in motor yet valves are closed due to i am installing adjustable push rods... so should i look at the position of the lifters to be all the way down position on the heel of the cam? on that cylinder i am about to adjust ? and would it be ok to adjust both cylinders in that position ??? i would think yes. because i just saw you setting compression stroke on rear cylinder then adjust from cylinder ???? so are both cylinders on compression stoke at the same time??? is one cylinder on compression stoke and other on overlap position??? i don't understand...
Watch again , he explained that after finding TDC on the rear cylinder he realized it would be easier to film the adjustrment on the front cylinder . so off camera he rotated the motor to TDC on the front cylinder , Also he mentioned but didn't show another way of finding TDC on compression which is to expose the pushrods and watch them move and when the cylinder at TDC is on compression the pushrods for that cylinder will be on base curve and not move at all but on overlap one pushrod will be moving up and the other one down
Is it possible to adjust my push rods without having it lifted up ?
Wolverine Chamberlin Yes but you have to have the back wheel off the ground so you can turn it to top dead center
@@kruesioriginals Ok Thanks appreciate help, going to adjust my 2010 Limited FLHTK sometime this week. Harley Davidson adjustable push rods 2.5 turns for mine Harley correct ? Screamin Eagle adjustable push rods. What is the website for getting parts from you ? Could not find a link or name ?
Wolverine Chamberlin definitely needs to be cold
My bikes famous now.
Thomas Gallagher hey you get those miles in that motor yet
holy shit yer really irish... like the plate sez
Ever adjusted em and had a tick in just feont cylinder sir?
jimbo markham You didn’t adjust him right, or the lifters haven’t build pressure yet let it run for about 20 minutes or take it for a slow ride
Roger that , thank you sir🙏
What’s up with Tshirts
Why in video did you bring no 2 piston to top then you adjusted no 1 piston .I thought when no 2 up top is when you adjust shorty pushrod then get no 1 up to top and adjust pushrod
I covered all that in the video you should probably watch it again. I just didn’t show it on the video and I talked about how I just didn’t showed in the video.
Algorithm. 🤘🏻
How can I find out what adjustable pushrods are in my heritage? I believe they’re either S&S or Screamin’ Eagle… Any suggestions?
3.25 turns (20 flats) for the center on almost all hydraulic lifters. You want to be at .010.
Not true at all
@@kruesioriginals lifter travel isn't .020? S&S push rod thread pitch isn't 32 per inch?
Salami turns for a stock motor
It’s the music for me.
Background music is killing this video for me
I always thought a Harley mechanic had to be bald headed, wear mirror shades, have plenty of facial hair and have a butt load of tattoos. Oh ya, whenever you have your picture taken you absolutely, positively have to cross your arms and have a look on your face that says "my bowels have not moved in 14 days". So, therefore you need to get crackin on this if you want to have any street cred.
I always thought muscle shirt were made for people with muscles.... guess I was wrong
Awesome and informative video. There's just one thing, Dude. Do you have to use so many cuss words?
Kill the hideous music.
Could do without the music and the language
I agree. If he could blast some Skinny Puppy and yell the instructions in Japanese, I'd be a lot more comfortable.
What does a man have to do to buy a used bike if you guys? I have not had my escape in 4 months
Thank you. Very informative.