100+ BREACHES! 14 SEASONS! Clubs will expect Man City to be RELEGATED!
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- The Times Chief Sports Reported Martyn Ziegler joins White & Jordan to break down the allegations being aimed at Man City today about financial irregularities at the club and charges brought forward towards them by the Premier League! Should Man City face expulsion from the league?!
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Keown on his 5th crossword puzzle.. unstoppable
😂😂 brilliant
1 across - Man City's 2024 season division (6,3) L_A_U_ -T_O
😂😂😂😂😂
That just gets funnier and funnier the more you watch.😂
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Swindon Town were demoted by 2 divisions in the early nineties for financial irregularities. Let’s see if the big boys have to play by the same rules…
Footie is corrupt buddy, justice won't be served. Its a joke
Will never happen, they’ll get a few millions fined and everyone will forget all about it
Guarantee they will get some pathetic points deduction and a fine. They don’t have the balls to do anything else
@@Graziak5 Why though what would man city do to the premier league lol?
Not a chance m8 the big 6 have different rules to the rest of us can only hope the premier league grow some and relegate them
Haaland is gonna set CRAZY records in league 2!!
Lmao 🤣 very good
He will leave 😆
THE owner has been the main sponsor all along😂😂
I think where city has a major problem is not down to some financial irregularities over one or two years, it’s the fact there has been continual breaches over 14 consecutive years showing a blatant disregard for any financial fair play rules 🤔
It's not a fact, it's an allegation. I will be stunned if any of these allegations stick in a proper court. Low IQ fans of other clubs will be cheering, but sober minds will be realizing that if these allegations aren't rock solid, then it might be the PL that is facing trouble.
@@daleviker5884 so you actually believe that city generate the biggest revenue in world football with their MASSIVE fanbase ?
@@thefool5302 just ignore those prats, lol man city can never in life cross man u liverpool real barca bayern in popularity fanbase, revenue can never be matched...they have always bought, thats not history
@@randomuser78they’re not crossing Arsenal either
@@daleviker5884 Over 100 charges kinda points to fact though doesn’t it. It’s not like it’s a one-off case. I can’t see how they can avoid any penalty for that many charges, unless more dodgey under-the-table dealings occur.
The smaller clubs like Swindon, Derby and others get hammered but just watch as City buy their way out of this.
Was just saying the same to some friends who want to see justice done. But sad reality is that the more money is involved the less likely it is that the right thing will be done, and the Premier League is swimming in it
@@ronanfitzpatrick1261 Ain't that the truth.
Funny how FIFA had "no idea" about all of this
Unfortunately, I think you are right that English football will chicken out. The game is about lucrative entertainment first, and a fair playing sport second. Swindon, Derby could get hammered without negatively impacting the big money making machine. But sending City down to play Championship might negatively impact FA revenues, while costing millions in lawyers fees immediately as City drags everything out and appeals.
If these charges are proven, IMO City should be sent down to League 1, so they will be out of the PL for two years.
@@dzimujikambarage9784 They did just fifas ffa has time restrains for this sort of stuff and city$ lawyers wiggle the clup out of it with only 10mil greenqueens fine.
All 30 of us City fans are very worried
Made me spit out my tea 😂
🏏
I thought they were 16…are you inflating the numbers? Investigation needed 😂
Are having a laugh 15 at most
Ha
If relegated... no fans and no players
Notice how there are no Man City fans even here to defend the club.
You should have finished that sentence after the word 'fans'
They hardly have any
They will say we are innocent or the charges will amount to small punishment. They think their dads own the league. They do forget that Premier league is privately owned by 20 members club. 😂
Comedy gold tbh😂 everyone wet their pants over the euro ban last time but yet here we are champs of Europe😂 talksport forgetting one big thing. Evidence
Luton got -30 points for a few errors, the new owners even told the FA what the previous owners had done. We were ruined by the FA, But bounced back
Aye but as a Derby fan it's a different rulebook for us, we can't threaten to breakaway into an ESL like these clubs can
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 Without Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, United, ESL won't want to take City on its own anyways lmao
Luton were one of the best teams in the old 1st division when I was younger when they played on the plastic pitch with the Steins brothers & plenty more cracking players.
@@JBLancs if your talking about the 80s i remember the stein brothers ,,the league cup against arsenal was one of their magic moments
Wenger was talking about this madness for years and everyone called him bitter. Last laugh and all that.
The Professor was never wrong about what likes of Chelsea and Man City could do to English game. Cheats. Classless small clubs
Sooner or later Monsier Wenger is always proven correct.
I was more concerned about Wenger's visits to Thailand with mark Lawrenson.
>parsenal fans trying to shoehorn penger into everything
Kek. Still won't win him the UCL
@@QuentinMajor shut up you punk. As if citey has won anything
Looking forward to Wrexham vs Man City in league 2 next season.
Wrexham will need to play Deadpool in d@ game just to survive d@ attack...lol
@@maleekgeechi7960 Well presumably, if Man City were expelled from the league, their owners would also have been deemed to have been "unfit and improper" and will be forced to also sell the club. i.e. no more UAE bankrolling.
@@temporaryuseraccount0012 as a united fan...we will like to have Haaland when da Sale starts please
Back where they belong
@maleekgeechi7960 you don't realise. They may go bust. They will have to off load the whole team. No more SKY money, no more premier money. No more Europe. And the glory fans walk away. But that won't happen. They will get a telling off.
Having watched numerous lower league clubs punished for comparatively minor financial issues with huge point deductions, and some clubs having to fold, it just seems wrong that Premier League clubs seem to get away with financial misconduct. It just shows the widening gap between the Premier League (AKA English Super League) and the EFL. And I just wonder where all this will end. This is not the game I grew up loving. I think that's long since lost and will never be recovered.
They need to investigate Chelsea & PSG too! These teams have definitely bent the rules and most definitely broken them.
Explains their managers wacky mood in recent weeks
And why he send a certain player to Bayern on loan
😂😂
He’ll leave before the end of the season. This is huge
Fraudiola is even more of a fraud than I thought this is hilarious
@tripitaka Well with those resources, who wouldn't be the best manager in the world?
Wonder how pep would do with the resources of say Burnley or Brentford or Crystal palace or Bournemouth or even West ham or Aston villa?
Every club he's been in charge of have been the richest in their league by far.
I find it fascinating how City claim to earn more Commercial Money than United, Liverpool, AC Milan, Barca, Real, etc. I hand on heart have NEVER met a City fan in real life in my 20 years of existence😂
Yeah that's a lie lmao
I'm guessing you live outside the UK then. Granted, most Man City fans are from Manchester, but you'll meet Mancs around the country, its one of the biggest Cities in the UK.
@@George-bi8sj I’ve never met a city fan anywhere other than a few in a pub in manny
I’ve met a few most are just drug dealers from the rough part 😂
@@George-bi8sj i live near London and know loads of Arsenal, Spurs, Utd, Liverpool, West Ham and even Everton etc. Never met a City fan. Don't know many Chelsea fans either, just saying.
I wonder how many goals haland will get in the national League next season It will be interesting to see him play at grounds like Yeovil....
would he cope on those bumpy/muddy pitches tho 😂😂
@@buffalosowljah373 he will enjoy the cider
He should come to Eastleigh 🤣
Juventus was feeling alone with these kind of scandals. Thank you MC for join them.
Juve we’re also fixing matches
Haaland will be playing next to his Dad in League 2 now.
League 2 would be funny.
Rumours started to go off a few days ago about Haaland going to Barcelona. Cancello gone. Now we know why.
@@tnsf2896 So he's gonna leave a financially shady club to go to another financially shady club? 😭
😂😂
@@purplebutterfly314 I guess so. Depends on the verdict of course. However players don’t even like missing out on Champions league ball and often times send in transfer request all the time. Stop grabbing at straws you can always bandwagon Newcastle ya cow 😂
Thanks to Man City for taking all the headlines, didn’t really want to hear Simon Jordan and Jim White celebrating about Arsenal losing for a week.
Me neither. Well said
Or going on about Klopp being in the mire. This is refreshing
Ohh it's coming, don't worry
But they wouldn’t be too critical because city also dropped points it would be different if City closed the gap this weekend
Couldn't agree with you more 👏🏽
Realistically, the harshest possible punishment is lose the titles. If they were forming shadow contracts and paying players and managers cash off the books and there's a smoking gun, those players are ineligible and those titles have to be taken away. Man City's defence seems to be based on some version of "fruit of the poisoned tree" where the authorities wouldn't know they'd cheated if somebody hadn't hacked them.
Give the title to Liverpool for seasons we were second
@@abdallahsmith1985 Nah, it'd be much more fair for the 2nd and 3rd place clubs to have to play a single match for each trophy
Especially since had they not been competing with City's position they might have played differently
Ole confirmed for winning a PL Title as manager 🤣
What about if the third placed club had far less points that season than second. How is that fair?
So Jose Mourinho did win the title win United lol?
You can't just change the past. It wouldn't work.
Insightful contribution from Keown as always🤦♂️
He didn't shut up!
Let's be honest how City thought they would get away with going from a mid-table club(at best), to claiming to be bigger financially than United, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc? When those clubs have developed themselves over 100+ years. How many City fans do you actually meet? It's like one big fake scheme, the fans don't exist
Well said
The lies of Man City having no fans are false, only have 39 millions followers on Instagram and 14 million on Twitter.
@@lookingforward.2569 but they only support City because of their success. I’m so happy City might get relegated so we can see if these fans are real
@@lookingforward.2569 I'm 29 years old, I have never met a Man City supporter in person, I always meet Villa, Everton, Liverpool, Fulham, United, Arsenal... everyone
A superb comment
TODD BOHELY CURRENTLY SHREDDING PAPERWORK 😆 🤣
Doesn't need to you melt
@@benjaminbland3988 melt? Says him "beefing" on a TH-cam comment 🙄 bore off 😆
Welcome back to the Villa Jack. You've had a wonderful experience now it's time to come back to a premier league club.
That's why De Bruyne or Foden haven't started recently, Peppie is making sure they don't get injured before the fire sale begins
De bruyne legs have gone and foden has a lingering illness I believe.
I hope Newcastle have plenty of kits ready to sell because they're about to be inundated with new "fans".
Lol
With the amount of bloody variant kits Castore has made, I am more than confident we have enough 🤣
@@GhostNappa2k10 has caster not been good? design wise I thought they looked decent, better than the likes of puma and Hummel at least
Bit different though. They’re a big club.
Brilliant comment
Its inconceivable how Man City could be financially bigger than Bayern, Man United, Real. Its honestly even hard to believe they are competing against Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in that short span.
@elli Liverpool generated more revenue this year than Man Utd!!!
Lol replace Man United with Barca
U cheat n manipulate u get dealt with.
Lol take Chelsea out of the equation they went from Tottenham to Man Utd in three years through ludicrous spending
@Brian Lamont lol is that what you think. You must be smoking some good stuff
Points should also be retrospectively be deducted and the title given the team that came 2nd
Tears in Stockport tonight
Imagine all those players up for grabs
Man City will sell them to Barcelona not any pl teams. Don’t worry
@@lookingforward.2569 money talks mate😂
@@lookingforward.2569 why? You probably wont be competing in the EPL next season
@@sk00p most of Man City staff are ex Barcelona and good relations with Barcelona, they won’t sell to pl rivals. Half the squad Barcelona wants anyway and im sure psg could an favour for us and take the rest.
@@dondappapumpumslappa8051 I do, even if Man City get relgated they can choose who ever signs their players. They will sell to Barcelona because their relationship and they won’t sell pl teams that tried to get them banned.
Relegate them
Why has it taken 14 seasons to charge them for the first season breach? Why has it taken 13 seasons for the second season breach and so on and so on. This doesn't look good for the Premier League investigators/authorities.
I completely agree with Simon, the fact the Premier league are only exposing this now is definitely to do with the imminent government/regulator interference! There’s something very shady about all this not only from Man City’s side & proves that the need for an independent regulator is urgent & much needed for Transparency
But the FA have been investigating a long time. Maybe they sat on it or maybe they wanted to absolutely make sure their case was watertight. Personally speaking, I'd make sure the case was watertight. Imagine the damage caused to the FA if Citeh got off with it? They'd be an absolute laughing stock. And UEFA I suspect, will be in there somewhere. They were livid Citeh got away with it after taking it to CAS. And UEFA has some very powerful people on their backs, like Real Madrid and Barcelona.
I'm waiting for Mourinho to claim the 2018 title.
Don’t forget that Ole is getting one 😂
Mourinho will be smiling 😃
If that happens, we need a mid season open bus top celebration down at Manchester. Bring back all the boys home.
Liverpool twice
@@deangreen2567 between 2009-2018 so no he wont
All 16 Man City fans are EXTREAMLY worried.
😂😂😂 ..
No we aint...we'll get out of this too...just watch lol...club already made a statement...BTW this is a charge...not a conviction..
@@HowardoColeBrownYou might need to ask the other 15 City fans before speaking on their behalf.
@@AA-xb6vx already did..your mom was the first to agree. ..
They won’t be worried. They’ll just support another team
Need to make an example of City and if they’re to be seen buying their way out of trouble it won’t deter future offenders. 100 offences is a complete mockery
Including the two about grass being too long?
thier owners who funded city sponsorship revenue are accountable for all this ADUG
Love TalkSport. White and Jordan are fantastic. I love that Jordan does not care who he upsets when airing his opinions.
Great show guys. 👏
I hear UEFA say they will NOT strip Manchester City of their Champions League Titles :)
Lmao oh wait there arent any
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I bet you were the class clown huh?🤡
@@mazdakmina9493 Tbf UEFA doesn't like english clubs winning their glorified trophy auction
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Hahaha Martin Keown bit out of his depth here "well surely if they just give them the information they're alright...?"
No Martin, not exactly.
Came to the comments to look for this observation. Keown should stay out of this conversation 😂
Just because you were a half decent player, it doesn’t make you a football commentator.
can they be stripped of any previous titles if this goes back 14 seasons?
YES
@@tysont9872yeah but they obviously won’t
They must be, liverpool losing by 1 point 2 times is a joke, and united came second too 2 times...deserved ones must germt theirs epl is fraud if they dint strip titles, corrupt fa
What's crazy is that this has been allowed to go on for so long....
Not a city fan but it feels like all or most clubs are at dodgy dealings
Not to this extent. Realistically, they would only receive half the income if they played by the rules. If they didn't have the rich owner spending then they wouldn't have the ability to sign those top players so they wouldn't be as strong and therefore receive less in sponsorships and they wouldn't have the trophies they won. So its blatant cheating.
Man City to League 2. Here. We. Go.
Now you mention it. Do the Championship teams want them? Seems unfair on that league.
Needs to be lower...some teams have been hit with 30 pts deductions for just a few irregularities. City need to be playing in Blue Square North or something.
1:17 everyone’s faces when he said that was so funny to me
If found to be true, how many clubs have been effected due to these actions? How many teams have been involved in relegations (maybe multiple ones) because of the results, not only against them - but to those teams they've been fighting in the same relegation battle?
What about all the results in the cup competitions? How many teams have been knocked out in rounds by them - even being runners-up to them? The mind completely boggles!
The financial implications upon all of those effected teams (due to loss of revenue) could be phenomenal - if each team decided to bring a class action for loss of revenue and titles would truly be incalculable by the main mind. If, any / most of these are found to be true and Manchester City have been found to deliberately delay the findings because of potential actions then its going to be major punishments - and though the FA have tried to acquire the documents, it really should of been pressed for further...
Maybe all accounts need to be submitted by the end of each season as part of the qualification of their team to be involved in the following one.
Though many will cheers at this, we all need to remember that they are innocent until proven (without a shadow of a doubt) guilty. I actually feel sorry for the fans of the club - the true ones who were there under Peter Swales and the like, not just the glory hunters.
It could end up the 'Big Six' becoming the 'Big Five' in the near future Obviously, Newcastle United are not part of the 'Big Six' club association - it's like seeing the Earth as 'Big' and forgetting all about Jupiter...
Spot on. But it is because of these endless levels of wrongdoing, that the FA won't punish man City. They cannot have the entire Premier league turned into a law suit from every club who played them. They can't send man City to league 2 because the owners of man City will throw a billion pound in their lap. Money solves everything and that is why man City will get a points reduction at max. Still could go and win the CL. Its a joke
@@zafmo9829 If I were the chairman of a club which has been relegated since the Commencement of when the allegations started - and those results would have obviously had an effect to that relegation, then I would be seeking legal advice for a possible class action against either Manchester City and or the F.A. This of course would only be processed if Manchester City were found to be significantly guilty of these breaches (there's still a long way to go on that).
@@zafmo9829 It's February 2023 when these allegations have been made, Manchester City will have just received the details of these allegations and it will take time for them to prepare a defence. There'll then be a period of arbitration and if found guilty, Manchester City will have the right to appeal.
Don't forget, you're innocent until Proven guilty in this country.
The timeline for this is obviously not going to be in time for the Commencement of the 2023/24 Season - at best, in my opinion, the final decision and punishment (if found to be guilty) might be as early as in line with the Commencement of the 2024/25 Season.
Again, may I stress - Manchester City have not been legally found guilty of anything yet. I'm not an expert on these scenarios - not many people are but I don't think that like many legal cases that there'll be any 'plea bargaining'.
@@zafmo9829 What could possibly be happening at this time (I would be if I were currently contracted to the club) is that player contracts could be getting fully reviewed and scrutinised for potential loopholes or escape clauses.
Again, if I were a player with a level of 'commercial image rights' and contracts with certain brands, 'I' would be concerned about what has been alleged and how it would reflect on 'me' and how it would reflect on 'my career' - if Manchester City were found to be significantly guilty of these allegations.
It's an absolute legal minefield in my opinion, but if there are clauses in the contracts for the conduct of the players - then it is fair to anticipate that there'll be clauses for the conduct of the club.
But at this time, Manchester City have not been found guilty of anything.
Though Manchester City have not been found guilty of anything at this time, the clock begun at the FA announcement yesterday - and that clock is basically the mental picture of potential impacts of them being found guilty.
You'd obviously be looking at a fine, a 'competitive' points deduction - estimated to a number where it is still recoverable to avoid relegation on the season it is determined (it will most likely be at the start of a season - and I don't think if they're found guilty that relegation to another division will be asserted) and the most likely of all being a Transfer Ban - this one is the key one as the amount of time which is determined and set for could be the key.
If found guilty and say a transfer ban of three years (6 transfer windows) is set, then Manchester City (and who would sign for them in the next window in knowledge of what could be pending, if found guilt) could have some real significant problems in trying to recover - especially if some of their existing players have their contracts torn up: Their squad could be absolutely decimated by the time of them coming out of thr other side - possibly already facing themselves in a league, if not two lower than where they started.
I know people are going to say 'That would never happen' - but the simple question would be to ask is 'How can you perform without a team?' - All that would be left are stragglers, low members of the squad and whatever they can pull through from the youth academy.
And that there is the crux, which is also the 'worst case scenario' - IF Manchester City were found to be guilty of any serious breaches and they'll most likely have a better legal team on the case than what the F.A. have.
What I do believe (in my opinion) is that many of the clubs will expect the punishment (if found guilty) to be significant enough to ensure that its an effective deterrent - otherwise the entire investigation would have proven to be inept and useless. In the past, their focus would have possibly been there to 'peg back' the likes of the oligarchs capability to blast through the cash to attain success - but there's one out there that's even bigger than Manchester City, three times the size of the combined wealth of the Premier league combined (and even greater than the combined worth of the eight top European leagues). All efforts will be made to scrutinise every penny in and every pound out for Financial Fair Play. Every 'Big Club' in Europe thought they were big sharks in a big pool until the takeover of Newcastle United in October 2021 - now they're faced with the reality of scale and will make all efforts (in particular their direct competitive in the Premier League) to reduce their inertia.
Hey, I hope Man City don't get hit too hard - if anything as through time every generous chairman has spent on their club, long before the days of Jack Walker (God rest him) was doing it at Blackburn. Every team is going to try and find something to their advantage - regardless of the country or the league.
I for one would miss it if Man City were no longer in the Premier League - they've had some historical decent fans in their time.
When a club with such a tiny fanbase are top of the highest earning football clubs in the world, you know something is up.
Facts
True. Cheats. Let’s see if Pep gonna manage a League 1 or 2 team, because that’s where they belong.
Tiny? They have more social media followers than Chelsea
@@spark556 social media isn't real life. Grow up.
Exactly no one can convince us they have fanbase bigger than man u real liverpool barca arsenal bayern chelsea, never met any city fans till now lol
Can we now officially say they bought the league
They bought it even if they are non guilty 🤣🤣🤣
Yessss🥳🥳🥳, should be relegated and titles stripped if possible, is it a joke liverpool lost by 1 points twice the title and man u lost too..those were the actual history clubs and rivals...now its clear manchester was always red, this blue was artificial and now exposed
@@merki101 facts 😂😂
Chelsea started all this
@@randomuser78 man u twice liverpool once during that time framw
Looking forward to seeing Man City vs Stockport County.
It will take a long time for this to get through the courts - will City's money attract players to a club looking at possible relegation? - the same UK rules apply that saw Saracens relegated from Rugby's EPL, it could certainly happen.
It will aparently, take a couple of years at least to get to a verdict but absolultely, Citeh will struggle to attract big name players. Would Bellingham consider them now? His options are getting smaller. As a Liverpool fan, I think we've blown it with him signing now. His options are now Real, PSG or Chelski. Chelski have spent that much money and their loophole they used is being closed and I believe he doesn't want to go there anyway. He's just best staying at Dortmund till Liverpool recover which might take a couple of years. Or go to Real. I don't seriously consider PSG as an option. Sorry for digressing 🙂
Funny how Wenger called this a long time ago🤔
City have just found,they can’t BRIBE everybody all of the time,hopefully this corrupt outfit will be banished into the lower leagues.
I remember
Everyone did. Worst kept secret in sports.
What did Wenger say? Is there a link to a story someone can send me?
Wenger predicts everything the guys got a crystal ball
Todd Boehly seen burning papers at the back of the stadium
If found guilty, that would mean other clubs have lost out on prem titles, higher prem league places, champions league places, FA & Carabo cups....
Would other clubs be able to sue for loss of earnings?
This could also be the best thing ever to happen in football.....as spending on wages and players have definitely gone out of control.
The football players deserve to get paid, they bring in billions and small club fans want them to get paid 2 million a season MAX
Should be relegated a league per season they breached the rules, what is the 14th division league 🤔
Playing down the park isn’t it? Setting up the nets themselves
Thursday Lunchtime at Mannadon Sports Hub in Plymouth.
City vs Wrexham would be a good league!! 😂😂
Manchester City vs Inter Yanan at powerleague next season
Think that might be the English Prison League, I think Belmarsh Prison are the current title holders 😉
This is absolutely tremendous 🤣🤣🤣
Tbf, by definition Citeh are a small club that have been heavily subsidised. Other than Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, they are not bigger than Villa, Newcastle or Leeds either.
Chelsea fan - we've been successful for a 20 year period or so and don't even come close to surpassing the revenue of Liverpool, Real Madrid etc. And that's how it should be. You don't grow a global brand that fast - just not possible. Man City have been taking the piss!
To be fair, Liverpools revenues have only grown in recent seasons - success brings revenue and profits.
@@fangdog29 Liverpool have been a global brand since their 70s and 80s golden age
Chelsea probably being funded with dirty oil money from Abramovic, even though he’s been sanctioned
@@Gius3pp3K Typical crybaby
a few years ago a similar thing happened with saracens in rugby. they got relegated etc. they are now top of the premiership by 10 0r 15 points. money always wins
The same happened with Juventus, relegated for dodgy finances in 06, half of their first team (including some World Cup winners) stayed and got them promoted and by 2011 they were champions again
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 city was a midtable club until Saudis came it will be hard for them to came back at juve time there were no ffp now if city have relegated they have to cut ties with players
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 they got relegated for match fixing not irregular fianances
They got a 15 point deduction this season for irregular fianances
More then 100 times and they just want to deduct points? Wtf? This premier league is so corrupted.
It was only a matter of time before something like this blew up big time, but for anyone hoping to see punishment meted out to Man City this season, if they are guilty, it’s difficult to see that happening.
It isnt about the punishment they receive, it's real physical validation for what everyone else has been saying for years
It vindicates our disdain for the club as well as nullifies all those trophies pep likes to dick waive about at people as well as their fans
@@victorkreig6089 Couldn't have said it better myself. Imagine if you're a Liverpool fan losing the league last season by one point then realising the team above you was financially doping, the fucking audacity!
@@philbarton2832 Stop being bitter and jealous.
@@victorkreig6089 You ever been to a game?
Pep Guardiola and his team in championship would be classic 😂.
Trouble is they can easily win and get back? Maybe League 1 would like them.
Imagine thinking they will be relegated or that Pep would ever manage in that league.
@@UserName-br5zu erm would be interestin but doubt it he said hed walk if man city lied to him about anything
@@Dwayndibb theyve broken the rules for more than 10 season. wouldnt be surprised if they go lower
15 point deduction for every season they cheated in. It's only fair.
No, its not enough.
It needs to be relegation/ reductions in expenses and wages expenditure with a points deductions.
Not enough. There needs to be a degree of physical violence too.
And all their titles taken off them
@@frank290862 lol
If that happened defo relegation heard transfer ban aswell
IMO this is going to have huge huge huge huge huge implications for their transfer windows coming up. No big player will come near them due to potential sanctions coming in. I am sure some of their big players will want to leave in the summer too. Wonder if Pep will stay.
They'll be relegated by then
@@r_rajkarnikar Not by this summer though.. so this summer will be more public opinion than any legal sanctions
@@kd5973 you're right. I got that wrong. It will be interesting indeed.
Peps already said if barca call he's gone,he's well asking barca ro phone him quickly 🙄
I’m curious what happens, if their titles get stripped. Will it go to the runner-ups or will those seasons just get vacated. If it goes to the runner-ups then Man United just got 2 and Liverpool got 1. Which is kind of funny since their titles are going to their rivals.
Liverpool get 3 mate
@@kevinjones8254 The charges are from the 2009-10 season to the 2017-2018 season. So Man City would loose their 2012 & 2018 titles to Man United and 2014 to Liverpool.
I don’t think they will be stripped of their titles, but interesting thought. If they were striped of their titles, then that would include the cups too. Sunderland, Liverpool, and Arsenal would be up for snatching the league cups! Stoke would also pick up an FA cup win.
Stripping them of titles, no matter how just, is really unlikely. Problem for me would be were any clubs able to prove that they got relegated or failed to qualify for the CL purely because they were hammered by City that season. Every such instance would likely lead to 10s of millions of pounds lawsuits being directed at the PL for not enforcing its own rules.
If true stripped of their titles’. Relegated into the lower leagues plus points deduction.
Transfer ban and Europe ban
Agree but wont happen will it...money always talks
They need proof first and they don’t have it.
Was thinking the same literally paid for all their success and did it allegaly but they will just do some back handers and get away with it again I bet.
We're they not investigated previously and nothing came of it??????
@@benjema112 Is Allegaly French?🤣
City will be checking to see if Shaun Goater, Nicky Weaver and Paul Dickov are still fit ✌️🤣
Georgi Kinkladze will be the star player. Jihai Sun will make a comeback.
@@speedoflightvanc Danny Tiatto and Steve Lomas...I mean come on, how can Gundogan or de Bruyne be better than these!🤣
@@jameshughes9329 of course. when Danny Tiatto comes back. Gundogan will be his backup. Haaland can be back up for Paul Dickov.
This gives a new meaning to Fraudiola. He has always vehemently denied that his paymasters have done any wrong. I wonder what he is going to say now.
I'm a jamaican, and I've never met a city fan . I've moved to Canada 10 years now and I've still never met a city fan . I've met lots of chelsea fans and fellow man utd fans and Arsenal fans
Thats the problem there all foreigners there fans especially arsenal and man u
Most City fans are from Manchester you don't meet Mets fans outside New York but Yankees fans are worldwide just the way it is.
Try Manchester
@JackBadabing No. Its Citys problem that their fanbase doesn't stretch globally. It's no coincidence the biggest clubs in Europe have the biggest worldwide fanbase🤦♂️
Try supporting a local Jamacian team,Arnett Gardens F.C,Montego Bay F.C or Tivoli Gardens F.C instead of a team from the other side of the world.
Most clubs do things by the book City do things by the barrel.
Brilliant
xD
I'm stealing that
Most clubs do thing by the book? Oh, sweetheart - you're naivety is astounding.
@@SteTrax your naivety is astounding it's a joke can't have a joke because Steve McClean says I'm quaking in my boots the whole country is laughing at city cheating small team made more than Madrid Barca And United are you deluded
Relegate them to league 2
Nah national League
when there is good and evil in the world this would be a massive chance for the good.
Get them down to the Sunday League
Their natural position
City have been in division 2 already do you know the year your mum was wiping your arses
Leeds were deducted 15 points in 2007 for not breaking even a quarter of these regulations
Over 14 saisons Man City breached epl financial rules …. So why only now we know about this ????
How do man city fans feel about this? You have been investigated by every footballing body yet have got of all the charges because of technicalities. How does it feel to support a club which only exists because of constant illicit activity. I would be ashamed if my club behaved like this.
no you wouldnt lol
Facts
@went for a packet of fags in a tank You support a easy pick of a team which wins by cheating but you dont care, you dont think that has nothing to do with your personality? It actually says a lot more than the average fans connection to his/her club.
As a City fan I actually don't feel ashamed...The best moments of this club have come the takeover and we'll stand by them as we clearly believe in their innocence
They're plastic so they'll just buy a Newcastle shirt and follow pep and the cheque book there
They should get the harshest PUNISHMENT to set an example. We all know and cud c what was going on ffs.
They should, but won’t
Does this mean that they’re in trouble with HMRC too if they’ve been lying about their finances?
Please explain what you knew and could see???
Great chat
This could be a disaster for this club. They could be removed from football for a number of years. Then they might have to come back via the bottom division like Rangers in Scotland. No EPL for around 10 years.
To simplify things for you, Manchester city's statement of reply means " premier League did you not get that brown envelope from us "
We all know City are going to get away with this😂😂😂...'oil MONEY TALKS'😌
Facts
Juve got demoted to the 3rd tier. So it's possible
I reckon there's officials on Man city's pay roll
@@kurtmiller7040 second
They can’t appeal it
Surely the UK HMRC will also want to investigate any corporate and salary tax irregularities, tax evasion and tax avoidance etc, due to lack financial disclosures of annual accounts…….re: payrolls, profits, sponsorship and employment contracting models and so on….viz. Rangers were taken to court by HMRC for financial tax irregularities etc and the SFA reacted accordingly!!
Surely not? I thought the FFP rules only applied to clubs outside the big six.
Pep in League One. That would be a sight. Imagine if he and the players decided to stay and attempt some football manager/ FIFA pipedream.
They'll win the Papa John's before the Champions League now 🤣
@black hrishi. Can you imagine Pep at Stevenage or a local derby against Salford City if these two teams get promoted at end of season.
Yes, they could do a Glasgow Rangers.
Pep would be gone along with most of there players Lol
@@fresh.prince7472 these comments have me dead
Always wondered where City get their revenue from to justify their spending, when they have barely any fanbase.
What are you talking about?
Just fact check the support they were getting when they played in the third tier... over 30,000!!!
By the way, I'm not a city fan - come on you Gunners!!!
@@Ken-yy9us Man city is the best club in the world!
YNWA! GGMU! Mia San Mia!
Anybody who says that is showing their ignorance.
@@MrAlwaysBlue Are you seriously trying to argue City's fanbase is big enough for you to get more lucrative sponsorship deals than United, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern? Do you seriously think your club organically generated all that money in 10 years? How come City only got that rich once they got an oil sugar daddy? How come you weren't making more revenue than United before 2008 if your fanbase is so big? Bruh the delusion 😭😆
Man City have a good loyal local fan Base, take my city Leicester as aa example like any other town or city in England is full of glory hunting Man United, Liverpool and Arsenal fans. If the locals in Leicester actually supported Leicester we could easily fill a 60k stadium for most games.
Forfeit City EPL titles, Man Utd Mourinho champions in 2017/28 season, Solsjaer also won it in 20/21.
New drinking game - take a shot every time Jim say ‘unprecedented’ 😂
Liverpool should get 3 more league titles. 13/14, 18/19 and 21/22
No just wipe those seasons from record books that would be so annoying Liverpool getting 3 titles looool wouldn't Tottenham get a trophy no way I can accept that looooool
@@Kloppsserialbottlers those 10 years were the foundation of what happened in last 4 years..
Can't just isolate your past...
All the Premier League titles should be stripped off. Because it's foundation of what happened. Those teams shouldn't have even been assembled. Give those titles back to Man Utd and Liverpool. CHEATING FAKE OIL MONEY CLUB!
@@Kloppsserialbottlers it also matters about the build up from the past to now, if you strip man city of there titles from 09-18 you have to do the same from 19-present as the punishment should’ve been put in place back then, plus they also said this has been an on going investigation that should’ve been brought out last season.
@@lifeinslo-mo595 ManU bought their titles in the 90's and 00's
They’ll pay off who they need to pay off then it will be all forgotten about
Just like chelsea were banned froom transfer window......you never know?
Don't need to pay anyone off, we proved our innocence in a court not even Russia was able to bribe
@@anonymousinternetaddict 😂😂😂😂😂
@@purplebutterfly314 Russia tried to bribe them when they got banned from competing in sporting events due to state sponsored doping but they weren't having it. "Likkle old citeh" wouldn't be able to switch heads
@@anonymousinternetaddict City have literally endless money, eufa cannot compete in terms of lawyers with a literal country
Maybe the fairest resolution if MC is found guilty, would be to come up with a formula to divvy up the prize/tv money they won among the teams who were the "victims". Money is no object for the owners apparently, so make them pay back their illicit gains. There's no way to prove they wouldn't've won leagues/cups etc without "cheating", so no point litigating that - just even up the odds by paying back what they gained.
Just because charges have been brought forward, evidence has to be provided before punishment can be administered. This will be dragged out for a number of years. I suspect City's board however 'surprised' they claimed to be were ready for this
Of course. Due process (rightly so) takes a long time. Guily or innocent we seem to have a sport culture whereby trial by social media precludes anything else.
Every football club will be watching this. If the punishment isn't relegation at a minimum this will come back to haunt the Premier League 100%. Set the example now.
Why? They have no proof lmao...it's literally nothing but accusations. And city seem pretty calmed about this as well, they already stated that they welcome the charges and accusations. Seems like they have evidence to prove their innocence
@@anthonygarcia3922 no one “ welcomes Charges “ 😂😂😂😂
@@anthonygarcia3922 Yes of course they have no proof what so ever, they are charging them based on a 'hunch'??? Are you for real? Is that how you think it works? They charge clubs, then run round getting the proof AFTER? Deluded. The only reason they got off with UEFA was because the evidence was time barred so wasn't admissible because evidence from certain dates couldn't be considered because the set time period for it to be considered had elapsed. In other words, a technicality. That doesn't\didn't make them innocent as City fans like to shout about. This won't happen this time.
@@anthonygarcia3922 the EPL have been all over this for 4 years, that's 4 YEARS!!, You must be out of your mind if you think a governing body would put 4 years of work into something of a "hunch"!
@@anthonygarcia3922 they've been charged pal . Wake up there is plenty of evidence.
Give Gerrard the title he got cheated out of now
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@redimp5667 If they broke the rules and cheated a club out of winning it than it's deserved
@@dman465did Juventus get their titles stripped???? You guys are just salty
@@freecityzen1384 yes, they did
@@squarewindow no they didn’t fool
Liverpool probably should be handed 1 or 2 epl titles 🤷🏾♂️
And pep has the cheek to talk about chelsea 🤣
A club that has no fans but has accrued a similar level of organic income within a decade as Real Madrid, United etc who've built that brand for over a century. The maths ain't mathin' and never has done
Let’s be real. Even if it is true, they’ll get away with it. The owner will just pay their way out.
Maybe not this time. The other members of the league maybe fuming as they are within the rules.
There is lots of sanctions that could possibly happen which include expulsion from the league or there titles getting taken away
Nah not this time get the book thrown at them
Not this time they won't
if that happends it will proof that the Premier League its a joke and justice doesn´t exist
Man City first, Chelsea next. Todd Boehly is likely pulling some shady stuff too.
The exact same thing happened with Saracens (paying players via third parties) and they got relegated. There is no other outcome than relegation.
Nice example 👍
Wenger masterclass. Legend!
He’s done it again
Wenger has nothing to do this bruv
@@spark556 Of course he does. He left in 2019 and started working for Fifa conducting an investigation. He knew which moment to choose to punish City. Wenger masterclass 100%. Once a Gunner always a Gunner. ⚪🔴 COYG
Love Simons analysis always
What a conspiracy theory ? 😄
Send them to non league with a 800 million pound fine! It’s the mindset of a major corporation who think they can do what they want with all of their money. A president needs to be set, other clubs need to see the premier league, UEFA, FA & FIFA stick together and have a REAL punishment. Not a transfer ban, not just a fine and not a points deduction!! Send them to non league and let them build up again from scratch within the budget they are allowed to spend. Now is the time to make a statement!! If any club done this they should all be punished exactly the same way.
If this was man United they would kick them out the league, everyone remembers when city would sign 2 full squads worth of players then get a new team without even selling them
If they can relegate Juve, Man City can surely suffer the same fate. I believe that the investors will pull out once that happens and it will be the end of city.
Investors... One family own them to sports wash their own money
That's assuming the English have b*lls to punish City as the Italians do with Juventus... no, more likely that the "independent commission" will conclude City acted in good faith, nothing to see, move on.
Juve got relegated for match fixing. That's a whole different case
Juve got regulated for fixing matches. City haters are down so bad lol
@@mikko3 leaked emails provided by rui pinto who started all this got jailed for exposing man city being funded by ADUG (owned by sheikh mansour) for sponsorship and not declaring it , though its yet to be proven if found guilty man city in big trouble