Thanks for sharing! I have 6 BNR cuttings. I washed the cuttings and used KMnO4 solution(0.2g in 500ml water) to disinfect them. I've tried 100% vermiculite and 60% peat moss + 30% coco peat + 10% perlite, both worked. Temperature 20-23 C. The first root was seen after 1 month and 4 cuttings have roots by now.
Congrats on getting it started, every single BNR I tried failed and I think the source might have a weaker plant, would be very interested to know how it tastes when the time comes for your plant to fruit!
I haven't had any problems so far rooting I have 45 down now the first 21 are all rooted and starting to leave I had them in the dark for 2 half weeks now they are under spider farmer SF1000 lights in my garage I followed Notorious figs rooting method to the tie and wow no issues what so ever I have all /some of the varieties you have once I finished watching you video M8 I checked all my black Maderia ect and they are all have roots and starting swell leaf have a look at Notorious rooting videos he's method work as I have experiencing I know your video was a year ago be good to hear how you going ? cheers Adam.D 👍😊🇦🇺 QLD
Parafilm causes my fig cuttings to mold..... I quit using that, You are right the Ronde De Bourdeaux are hard to root. Takes forever and a lot of patience. I have found,,,,,,,I have 3, I have rooted this year....... I have 3 Violette De Sollies and 3 Barbentane I have rooted.... I found those rooted quite easily and grew like crazy...... I live in Texas ( hot and humid ). I would guess your main issue is the soil you grow your cutting in. ...... air temps and watering,,,,,, all very important? ( Can you share that? )
I grow them in a climate controlled tent, so the temperatures are typically ideal, not dropping below about 22c and not getting above 31c, humidity is high around 70% most of the day
If your humidity is 70 percent and you water every other day, it sounds like too much moisture. I use parafilm and the figpop method. I do it in winter and place them on a heat mat. Bottoms warm and tops cold. I don't use lights because I don't want top growth until I get roots.
I odly enough have had some varieties that only responded to one type of rooting. Most of the 80+ I did this year, did fine with the cup/promix method, similar to how you are doing. I did have a few varieties that failed every time in the cup method, but worked every time with the fig pop method(i use a ziploc style bag). Also, more than half my cuttings fail when i dont use parafilm.
I have just ordered some parafilm and will add that to the unrooted cuttings I do from now on. In the meantime keeping the tent humidity extremely high 70%+ for most the day. I wonder what the difference between those other select varieties are that wont root in the cup method. Which varieties have you found really resist and need to be lollypopped?
@@LiveLoveCanberra my bet would be moisture level, I keep the ones I do in a bag with very lightly moist soil... the cup ones, when I water them get a bit wetter and need to dry out a bit in between waterings. Those drying out cycles seem to coax the roots out. Some may like to be left alone in low consistent moisture. Dont remember exactly what varieties, but if I had one fail in a cup I tried it in a bag. Han one local UNK white variety that I had extra cuttings of, and had all 4 I tried in cups fail, and 3 out of 4 succeed in bags/figpop. However, I still like the cup method and it worked great for most varieties. Air movement from a fan helps a lot once roots and leaves show up
So sorry for your losses. Have experienced expensive losses years ago with bulbs.cant afford to lose expensive these days.feel your pain which is palpable.
What sort of bulbs are you collecting? Losing plants of any kind always sucks but I like to think about the very many more that succeed and the eventual satisfaction in getting these harder varieties to root :)
Thanks for the informative video. I am interested mainly in varieties that produce breba crops - here in the Pacific NW our growing season is too short. I’m trying to start a variety called Corky’s Honey Delight and wondered if you are familiar with it. So far I’m 0/3.
Corky's isnt one that is available in Australia just yet, I do recall from putting my best figs lists though that it is one that kept appearing and getting mentioned by a lot of people so I am assuming it is an excellent fig. The pain of losing multiple cuttings of the same type in a row is intense isnt it!
Sorry for your losses, the KEY to my rooting success is HUMID SOIL , slightly damp. Don't let your roots rot, also wrap the cutting with Parafilm. Try the Fig-Pop method . Or with Expensive cuttings, I wash them, wrap with damp paper towel. place in clear plastic bags, put on top of refrigerator, then check for roots after 7 days. when you get some root development, up-pot to house plant conditions. Don't Over water your babies !
I have heard of the fig pop method but have not given it a crack just yet, I am also very guilty and even a proponent of watering at least every second day, although it is yet to be confirmed if this is upping my kill count!
To be fair Nathan there are so many factors outside your control that could be affecting some of those cuttings. You can control your own rooting conditions but you've got zero control over what happens to them before you get them. The donor plant could have been too dry so the moisture has been sucked out of the stems, it could be starved of certain nutrients, you don't know if the plant has been grown outside or in a polytunnel, how long before being sent to you had the cuttings been taken and were they left lying around for a few days before being sent, alternatively have they sat in a refrigerator for some days or even weeks.....all unknown variables. PS I'm quite observant......water rooted cuttings 😉
That is really true, we assume that all the cuttings come from equally healthy and productive trees, and have been treated well after cutting, which may or may not be the case. I think post conditions can affect in uncertain ways too, if they were stored somewhere too hot or cold during transit etc. And you totally nailed water rooted cuttings, those two both now have roots and leaves and are doing really well
@@LiveLoveCanberra I'm glad you had a go at rooting them in water, its fascinating to see where the roots form. Although I probably would practice on the 'cheaper' ones first lol 😉
actually Violette de Sollies often grows up vigorously and only produces a few figs. A person showed me his in-gound Violette de Sollies tree as tall as an adult, and it had a few figs. Bordisotte Negra Rimada's figs take more time to ripe compared some other varieties. That's why I never bought its cuttings.
Have you considered trying to root your cuttings with a different method besides potting them in soil? Also is it possible you have some pathogen situation in your growing area that may be causing rotting? I know I have problems with my orchids that die from a bacterial infection and I am thinking it’s my growing environment.
It's possible but unlikely to be pathogens, although these ones failed I have successfully rooted over 50 cuttings from the same soil mix. Some of them I think were suspect cuttings, and maybe some would work better with a different method, I typically use the same method for everything.
Next time, try to wrap the cuttings with parafilm (grafting tape). You will see it will help you to have more success - the cuttings won't dry out so fast and it also keeps them moist (alive) all the time.
I am up to round 4 this has to be the one. I have bumped humidity in the tent up to essentially above 70% at all times and as high as 99% most days and changed to everyday watering which I really hope pans out
Sorry about your cutting failures Nathan especially your BNR. Its not the varieties, its fungus gnat larvae randomly eating the roots and bark below the soil level.
I lost the 4th and final BNR :( I think that there must be an issue with the sellers tree, I have never had such terrible luck. I do try to control for fungus gnats I use a product called mosquito bits which is a biological control, and hang sticky traps, the mosquito bits needs reapplication every few weeks though. It is a battle
Just came across video of SIGNS YOUR CUTTINGS ARE DYING................. Ive never seen anyone water figs cuttings so much. I see cuttings that need to be potted now. Here in Houston, Texas summer just ended, 100 degree temps and I only water my potted figs once every 3 or 4 days, lightly..... When I start my cutting, I dampen the soil, lightly ( Promix HP ) and won't water them for 3 weeks after the initial watering. I do cover the soil to keep moisture from escaping and monitor the soil..... but that's it.
It could be the soil mix I use too, which is a home made mix, and is very airy. I have had a larger number of failures this year than in previous years, but I have also rooted a very much larger number of cuttings, at least 80 or so successful, and I would say 30 failures, with some of these being due to cutting quality I suspect. I have noticed that using a mix that has a higher component of coconut fibre (not peat) that it seems to hold a lot more water in the soil, compared to my mixes without and I think they may hold too much water. Having said that the cuttings I have rooted in plain pure water are doing great...
I recall in the begining...The first few cuttings I tried to grow FAILED..... ( I use Promix HP to root my cuttings ),..... because I got the mix too wet and the cuttings rotted. Once I got the moisture content correct ( squeeze out most of the water, just use DAMP HP mix )........ I would say now 95 per cent of my cuttings take. There will always be those cuttings that simply refuse to grow..... I only use the HP to start the cutting. Once the roots have grown and leaves ( I use 32 oz clear cups to monitor the roots ) I will transfer the cuttings to a 2 gal pot with potting mix ( I use Miracle Grow potting mix ), then eventually transfer, to a 5 gal, then a 15 gallon. ( I make my own potting mix for the 15 gal pots )......... I also only use rain water on my cuttings or pure bottled, no fertilizer........... Matter of fact..... I accidentally used water with fertilizer in it on my Ronde de Bourdeaux cutting a week ago and killed it !.......it was doing great, had great roots and started leaves!......made me sick!........ Other than that, I hadn't had any problems............Let me know if you have any questions........ best regards Reshard
Very interesting about the fertiliser, I routinely fertilise all my cuttings, I wonder if this has an effect. I have had the opposite experience in general in terms of when I originally started with figs years ago. I used to have a near 100% rate of success, and would essentially water every day and not think too much on the right or wrong way to do things. Maybe over the years I have been fiddling and adjusting things too much, or maybe it is just the result of having a much much larger collection, but I think my overall success rate has dropped to about 85%.
Cuttings like no7; probbaly got very small roots on that havn't made there way to the edge of the cup. This has happened to me, you dif the out thinking their not doing anything but it turns out they have small roots. Those thick ones seem to be harder, or take longer to root
I hope you are right, French Palliard is one of my most coveted so it would be a nice outcome. The original VDS went for a lot longer before it showed signs of life, and I think you are right about thick cuttings
@@LiveLoveCanberra One thing iv done is when i check the cutting, i changed the medium or grew them in water so i could see what was going in with them.... although though was with cuttings/varieties that don't tend to fail easily. Having said that whatever roots might be on there can get ripped off in the process.
@@davecphotographyuk I have started doing all my cuttings with lots more water than I used to. I am talking every single day, sometimes twice a day watering. I assumed they would rot, but it makes them take a lot faster and with less failure.
@@LiveLoveCanberra Yeah, you did a video on that? i took note of that. Yeah, i have buch of cutting that i got impatiant with and i ended putting them in a container of water with enough nodes submerged. It works, they don't rot and you can see exactly what is happening (or my cutting have never rotted). In fact this ended up turning out to be a lot faster, i guess because the cutting is making %100 contact with moisture, just a guess though. I guess also if they are in water there are no insects etc to break the wood down.
Thanks for sharing! I have 6 BNR cuttings. I washed the cuttings and used KMnO4 solution(0.2g in 500ml water) to disinfect them. I've tried 100% vermiculite and 60% peat moss + 30% coco peat + 10% perlite, both worked. Temperature 20-23 C. The first root was seen after 1 month and 4 cuttings have roots by now.
Congrats on getting it started, every single BNR I tried failed and I think the source might have a weaker plant, would be very interested to know how it tastes when the time comes for your plant to fruit!
I haven't had any problems so far rooting I have 45 down now the first 21 are all rooted and starting to leave I had them in the dark for 2 half weeks now they are under spider farmer SF1000 lights in my garage I followed Notorious figs rooting method to the tie and wow no issues what so ever I have all /some of the varieties you have once I finished watching you video M8 I checked all my black Maderia ect and they are all have roots and starting swell leaf have a look at Notorious rooting videos he's method work as I have experiencing I know your video was a year ago be good to hear how you going ? cheers Adam.D 👍😊🇦🇺 QLD
Another great video - thanks for your honest sharing! After you posted your last video I stuck a fig cutting in a glass of water. So far so good 🤞
I will update my glass of water cuttings soon, it is amazing to see how much better and quicker they are performing
Parafilm causes my fig cuttings to mold..... I quit using that, You are right the Ronde De Bourdeaux are hard to root. Takes forever and a lot of patience. I have found,,,,,,,I have 3, I have rooted this year....... I have 3 Violette De Sollies and 3 Barbentane I have rooted.... I found those rooted quite easily and grew like crazy...... I live in Texas ( hot and humid ). I would guess your main issue is the soil you grow your cutting in. ...... air temps and watering,,,,,, all very important? ( Can you share that? )
I grow them in a climate controlled tent, so the temperatures are typically ideal, not dropping below about 22c and not getting above 31c, humidity is high around 70% most of the day
If your humidity is 70 percent and you water every other day, it sounds like too much moisture. I use parafilm and the figpop method. I do it in winter and place them on a heat mat. Bottoms warm and tops cold. I don't use lights because I don't want top growth until I get roots.
I odly enough have had some varieties that only responded to one type of rooting. Most of the 80+ I did this year, did fine with the cup/promix method, similar to how you are doing. I did have a few varieties that failed every time in the cup method, but worked every time with the fig pop method(i use a ziploc style bag). Also, more than half my cuttings fail when i dont use parafilm.
I have just ordered some parafilm and will add that to the unrooted cuttings I do from now on. In the meantime keeping the tent humidity extremely high 70%+ for most the day. I wonder what the difference between those other select varieties are that wont root in the cup method. Which varieties have you found really resist and need to be lollypopped?
@@LiveLoveCanberra my bet would be moisture level, I keep the ones I do in a bag with very lightly moist soil... the cup ones, when I water them get a bit wetter and need to dry out a bit in between waterings. Those drying out cycles seem to coax the roots out. Some may like to be left alone in low consistent moisture. Dont remember exactly what varieties, but if I had one fail in a cup I tried it in a bag. Han one local UNK white variety that I had extra cuttings of, and had all 4 I tried in cups fail, and 3 out of 4 succeed in bags/figpop. However, I still like the cup method and it worked great for most varieties. Air movement from a fan helps a lot once roots and leaves show up
So sorry for your losses. Have experienced expensive losses years ago with bulbs.cant afford to lose expensive these days.feel your pain which is palpable.
What sort of bulbs are you collecting? Losing plants of any kind always sucks but I like to think about the very many more that succeed and the eventual satisfaction in getting these harder varieties to root :)
Thanks for the informative video. I am interested mainly in varieties that produce breba crops - here in the Pacific NW our growing season is too short. I’m trying to start a variety called Corky’s Honey Delight and wondered if you are familiar with it. So far I’m 0/3.
Corky's isnt one that is available in Australia just yet, I do recall from putting my best figs lists though that it is one that kept appearing and getting mentioned by a lot of people so I am assuming it is an excellent fig. The pain of losing multiple cuttings of the same type in a row is intense isnt it!
I've never successfully rooted a fig despite doing everything the internet tells me to
The internet overcomplicates things, have you tried just sticking in a glass of water and changing the water every few days?
Sorry for your losses, the KEY to my rooting success is HUMID SOIL , slightly damp.
Don't let your roots rot, also wrap the cutting with Parafilm. Try the Fig-Pop method .
Or with Expensive cuttings, I wash them, wrap with damp paper towel. place in clear plastic bags, put on top of refrigerator, then check for roots after 7 days. when you get
some root development, up-pot to house plant conditions. Don't Over water your babies !
I have heard of the fig pop method but have not given it a crack just yet, I am also very guilty and even a proponent of watering at least every second day, although it is yet to be confirmed if this is upping my kill count!
To be fair Nathan there are so many factors outside your control that could be affecting some of those cuttings. You can control your own rooting conditions but you've got zero control over what happens to them before you get them. The donor plant could have been too dry so the moisture has been sucked out of the stems, it could be starved of certain nutrients, you don't know if the plant has been grown outside or in a polytunnel, how long before being sent to you had the cuttings been taken and were they left lying around for a few days before being sent, alternatively have they sat in a refrigerator for some days or even weeks.....all unknown variables.
PS I'm quite observant......water rooted cuttings 😉
That is really true, we assume that all the cuttings come from equally healthy and productive trees, and have been treated well after cutting, which may or may not be the case. I think post conditions can affect in uncertain ways too, if they were stored somewhere too hot or cold during transit etc. And you totally nailed water rooted cuttings, those two both now have roots and leaves and are doing really well
@@LiveLoveCanberra I'm glad you had a go at rooting them in water, its fascinating to see where the roots form. Although I probably would practice on the 'cheaper' ones first lol 😉
@@lyonheart84 haha yes these were free, the best type
You should graft you’re expensive cuttings
You are right, I have just ordered some grafting tools which hopefully arrive this week!
actually Violette de Sollies often grows up vigorously and only produces a few figs. A person showed me his in-gound Violette de Sollies tree as tall as an adult, and it had a few figs.
Bordisotte Negra Rimada's figs take more time to ripe compared some other varieties. That's why I never bought its cuttings.
I killed my final bordissot negra rimada and have given up, I think there is an issue with the source material...
Have you considered trying to root your cuttings with a different method besides potting them in soil? Also is it possible you have some pathogen situation in your growing area that may be causing rotting? I know I have problems with my orchids that die from a bacterial infection and I am thinking it’s my growing environment.
It's possible but unlikely to be pathogens, although these ones failed I have successfully rooted over 50 cuttings from the same soil mix. Some of them I think were suspect cuttings, and maybe some would work better with a different method, I typically use the same method for everything.
Next time, try to wrap the cuttings with parafilm (grafting tape). You will see it will help you to have more success - the cuttings won't dry out so fast and it also keeps them moist (alive) all the time.
I have some on the way from ebay as we speak
Ow, bugger
Good luck with round 3, I have my 🤞 for your success
I am up to round 4 this has to be the one. I have bumped humidity in the tent up to essentially above 70% at all times and as high as 99% most days and changed to everyday watering which I really hope pans out
Sorry about your cutting failures Nathan especially your BNR.
Its not the varieties, its fungus gnat larvae randomly eating the roots and bark below the soil level.
I lost the 4th and final BNR :( I think that there must be an issue with the sellers tree, I have never had such terrible luck. I do try to control for fungus gnats I use a product called mosquito bits which is a biological control, and hang sticky traps, the mosquito bits needs reapplication every few weeks though. It is a battle
Just came across video of SIGNS YOUR CUTTINGS ARE DYING................. Ive never seen anyone water figs cuttings so much. I see cuttings that need to be potted now. Here in Houston, Texas summer just ended, 100 degree temps and I only water my potted figs once every 3 or 4 days, lightly..... When I start my cutting, I dampen the soil, lightly ( Promix HP ) and won't water them for 3 weeks after the initial watering. I do cover the soil to keep moisture from escaping and monitor the soil..... but that's it.
It could be the soil mix I use too, which is a home made mix, and is very airy. I have had a larger number of failures this year than in previous years, but I have also rooted a very much larger number of cuttings, at least 80 or so successful, and I would say 30 failures, with some of these being due to cutting quality I suspect. I have noticed that using a mix that has a higher component of coconut fibre (not peat) that it seems to hold a lot more water in the soil, compared to my mixes without and I think they may hold too much water. Having said that the cuttings I have rooted in plain pure water are doing great...
I recall in the begining...The first few cuttings I tried to grow FAILED..... ( I use Promix HP to root my cuttings ),..... because I got the mix too wet and the cuttings rotted. Once I got the moisture content correct ( squeeze out most of the water, just use DAMP HP mix )........ I would say now 95 per cent of my cuttings take. There will always be those cuttings that simply refuse to grow..... I only use the HP to start the cutting. Once the roots have grown and leaves ( I use 32 oz clear cups to monitor the roots ) I will transfer the cuttings to a 2 gal pot with potting mix ( I use Miracle Grow potting mix ), then eventually transfer, to a 5 gal, then a 15 gallon. ( I make my own potting mix for the 15 gal pots )......... I also only use rain water on my cuttings or pure bottled, no fertilizer........... Matter of fact..... I accidentally used water with fertilizer in it on my Ronde de Bourdeaux cutting a week ago and killed it !.......it was doing great, had great roots and started leaves!......made me sick!........ Other than that, I hadn't had any problems............Let me know if you have any questions........ best regards Reshard
Very interesting about the fertiliser, I routinely fertilise all my cuttings, I wonder if this has an effect. I have had the opposite experience in general in terms of when I originally started with figs years ago. I used to have a near 100% rate of success, and would essentially water every day and not think too much on the right or wrong way to do things. Maybe over the years I have been fiddling and adjusting things too much, or maybe it is just the result of having a much much larger collection, but I think my overall success rate has dropped to about 85%.
He should have air layered a plant for $600.
He did some air layers and auctioned them, last one went for $910!
Here in the U.S ,I got a rooted cutting with fruits on it for just less than $150 included shipping.
@@khmergreen US has all the fun stuff
Cuttings like no7; probbaly got very small roots on that havn't made there way to the edge of the cup. This has happened to me, you dif the out thinking their not doing anything but it turns out they have small roots. Those thick ones seem to be harder, or take longer to root
I hope you are right, French Palliard is one of my most coveted so it would be a nice outcome. The original VDS went for a lot longer before it showed signs of life, and I think you are right about thick cuttings
@@LiveLoveCanberra One thing iv done is when i check the cutting, i changed the medium or grew them in water so i could see what was going in with them.... although though was with cuttings/varieties that don't tend to fail
easily. Having said that whatever roots might be on there can get ripped off in the process.
@@davecphotographyuk I have started doing all my cuttings with lots more water than I used to. I am talking every single day, sometimes twice a day watering. I assumed they would rot, but it makes them take a lot faster and with less failure.
@@LiveLoveCanberra Yeah, you did a video on that? i took note of that. Yeah, i have buch of cutting that i got impatiant with and i ended putting them in a container of water with enough nodes submerged. It works, they don't rot and you can see exactly what is happening (or my cutting have never rotted). In fact this ended up turning out to be a lot faster, i guess because the cutting is making %100 contact with moisture, just a guess though. I guess also if they are in water there are no insects etc to break the wood down.
Im sorry to hear that mate! How disappointing! 😣
When balanced against the successes it is easier pill to swallow, I just wished it wasnt all the favourites that fail!
@@LiveLoveCanberrathat's probably the reason they are so sought after! Still frustrating. Your current BNR looks promising though, fingers crossed! 🤞
@@angeltejay Crossed, and toes as well!