10 Ways to Remove Malar Bags and Festoons
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- Malar bags , sometimes called festoons or malar fat pads are very difficult to treat sometimes. They are a normal part of aging for some people and often require combination treatments. In this video I review why we get them and 11 different treatments for you to know what they cost and the probability of working.
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00:00 Introduction
02:14 LOOK BETTER IN PICTURES TRICK
03:27 WHAT ARE FESTOONS?
04:24 SKIN CARE FOR FESTOONS
05:35 FOODS AND HABITS REMOVE MALAR BAGS
06:16 RF MICRONEEDLING FOR FESTOONS
08:37 LYMPHATIC MASSAGE FOR MALAR BAGS
09:09 BEST FILLERS FOR FESTOONS
11:13 PRF FOR EYE BAGS
11:51 CO2 AND LASERS FOR FESTOONS
13:33 EXOSOMES AND POLYNUCLEOTIDES
14:05 SURGICAL OPTIONS - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
"You look way better in real life than you think you do" - you're the best
Noooo I have a couple of friends that think they look better than they do! Ones a woman and she’s a mess.
I ALWAYS think the opposite. I think I look way better in the mirror than I do to others (flipped image)
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And I’m starting to AVOID mirrors
altogether, lol 😂 dress in a Burka
when I DO venture out!!! Lol 😂😂😂🤣
I’m doomed I think!! 🙋♀️😂🤣🤣😂🤣🇬🇧
@@bananacake9289omg, I always say that!😂😂😂
A friend had the issue of fat deposit under one eye and the other eye was normal. She pretty much tried every thing you have talked about and eventually, she underwent an under-eye blepharoplasty procedure. Excellent results.
I majored in photography and you are so right. Lighting is everything. You can have perfect skin/makeup and if you have bad lighting the photo won't look good. Vice versa you can have no makeup and not so great skin and if you have the perfect lighting you can look great!
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@rajanimdskincare Dr. Rajan, I am about to buy your new LED mask. I was just wondering if there is a risk of it causing melasma in my skin. I never had melasma. My skin is just a little bit darker under my eyes and around my mouth/chin. I have a light med olive completion (darker during the summer). I also have some freckles on my cheeks. I just heard of other people saying that LED/NIR in general made their melasma worse or caused them to have it. Can you please shed some light on this (no pun intended) on this? Or direct me to a video of yours if you already spoke about it. Thank you! 🙏
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@@dliz4019 my festoons started to look huge the very day we switched our household lights to overhead recess lights. I can see every single dent and bumps on my face. I look horrible and sad part is, those lights are everywhere.
Thanks, Dr. Rajani! You come across as so knowledgeable yet humble and kind. I very much appreciate the content that you share with all of us; no matter the age, situation, or status, you cater to all viewers. ❤
I remember the exact day when they appeared. Same bathroom, same mirror, same lighting than always. I trained myself to be a backslipper many years ago and I hadn' t had a salty dinner at all. Simple: one day, sooner or later, your face makes "the dubstep drop". I was 50. But you know what? As a goth, I love the way how Miss Gravity has displaced volumes in this area. The undereye was a convexity and now is a concavity, I adore hollowy purple dark circles. The malar mound was a concavity (Willem Dafoe style) and now is a pointy convexity, especially when I take a photo at 45°. Looks like Maleficent' s prosthetics.
Lower third of the face volume redistribution? Nah, thank you🙅🏻♀️😌. RF at the office to the rescue, Zygo Bros!
Priceless in depth info, endless gratitude🧛🏻♀️🖤.
Cholesterol bags is what I heard my parents generation call these 😂. Love that you addressed this! Thank you!
Oculoplastic surgeon here. Great video about a very common problem: festoons. Super detailed explanation. One point: Lower lid blepharoplasty ( LLB) does NOT remove festoons. LLB removes the orbital fat that is protruded out of the orbit and this is not even near any festoon. One is at the level of the lower lid, the other is located on the cheek, away from the orbit, anatomically. Tightening the lids skin is almost always performed with LLB and still does NOT affect any festoon. However, what I recommend to my patients is to add a CO2 laser of the lower lids and face. This is in fact what is the best approach for the combination of LL bleph plus festoons in my specialty. Also, about the salt, I recommend using half Nu-salt and half table salt in a shaker. It works well if salt is at the core of the festoon.😉
Excellent!!!! Thanks for piping in here. Much appreciated 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hi Dr... Thanks for your detailed comment all about this. In Pakistan a plastic surgeon recommended me to do cheeks lift surgery to remove malar bags. Can I go with this option?
@r.p.8906
Do you CO2 laser good for melasma prone skin? I have beginning stage of malar edema and melasma on my cheeks. Please reply 🙏
@@SG-wq4rm yes one carefully may use it
Thank you for your valuable input. I had co2 11 weeks ago full face. For some reason I have what looks like edema in that festoon area but only on one cheek 🤦♀️. Is it too early to expect this festoon area to look better ??
Thank you for covering the malar groove and bags! I'm in my early 40s and have the groove developing but no bags. I caught my face in the department store mirror the other day and was shocked to see my mid-cheek groove even under soft, diffuse light. I looked so old! 😭I plan to get PRF injections and skin tightening treatments. Hoping they help reverse my face by 4-5 years. 🙏
Please do a video on proper lymphatic drainage
Amen! on getting the right, experienced provider for RFF microneedling.
I want to share my story as a cautionary tale. I started getting filler under my eyes about 10 years ago. About eight years ago I feared I was being “over-filled” and stopped. I waited for the filler to dissipate and when it did, I was left with “edema” pouches, particularly pronounced on one side, which very much appear as malar bags (same area). I have tried almost all potential solutions (short of surgery) including a course of micro needling which a plastic surgeon thought may help-it did not. Now it is something I just live with. Some days it is more pronounced but generally better if I sleep on my back. I wish I’d left my face alone!
Filler often does not dissolve in the body. It must be reversed with an enzyme. In cases like this I inject a dissolver and re fill with PRF. Consider seeing and expert in dissolving.
@karenfriesen280 I have it, too, and am convinced it's from filler. Mine is also better when I sleep on my back and more pronounced on my right side than left. I just started using a face roller from Sephora so I'll see how that goes. I have used the hyaluronidase in the past and thought it went away, but then later added more filler.
Thanks for responding. I go to a pretty highly rated derm clinic so it’s disappointing they haven’t been able to offer a good solution. I’ve also tried the rolling with little success. Mine too is more pronounced on the right side. I still get Botox but have sworn off fillers. Yeesh!
I was going to get under eye filler…..but I dont think I will get it now. I will look at other solutions instead. Thanks for sharing your experiences. I hope you manage to find a solution that works for you
@@karenfriesen280 I'd try the enzyme if I were you. It does get rid of it.
Thank you Dr for educating all of us here! You are the best!🕊
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Great video. I just love Dr Rajani 😊
yeaaa! Dr.R covering festoons!!! Thankyou Dr. Rajani👊
the worst, to me, is side lighting, for imperfections.
Great shirt. Black, pure white and the cool based primary colors suit the Winter color pallette so nicely! Brightens the countenance. Winter pallette is about contrast,sparkle and flair. This is also why shinier fabrics look great👍
Again, thankyou so much for taking the time to bring us this teaching, Dr. Rajani. So important, not to mention, complex a topic. In our opinion, one of your best presentations. "Those who can teach, do." 💯
Thanks @michelekurlan2580 I never thought that through but makes sense. i appreciate it.
you are super smart - youalways give great advice that is minimal and healthy conscious
I thank you for your support
Thank you Dr.Rajani. You are one of the most and amazing Doctor and Humanitarian. I hit the like button. Please keep up the good works 🙏. 🙏 😊😊
I so appreciate that @profgeorgeouslady5387. Stay tuned and have a super day.
Very timely video. I just noticed these on my face a couple weeks ago and this week was wondering what could be done about them.
Thank you for the tips ❤
I purchased & used several of your skin products and find them awesome! Time to re stock..! 😇
🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you
Thank you Dr Rajani ❤
Thank you ☺️ for all the information you’re great
You are so welcome!
Thank you for this great video
Thank You @favorita9184. Stay Tuned I appreciate you being part of the channel.
Thank u so much!! Dr. your vids are amazing! U are appreciated!! ❤️❤️❤️😇😇😇💯💯💯💯💯😊😊😊😊
I definitely find that using Restore or Gut Health for leaky gut has significantly reduced inflammation of mine!
Ooh, I just started taking Restore!🤞🏻
Mine is on one cheek and co2 made it worse I’m three weeks out. Where are yours. Do you the the Restore for gut health and if so what brand do you use
Can you do a video on lymph drainage for festoon edema on the cheek please
I’m obsessed with your videos 🎉🎉🎉
Thanks @RebeccaPB77 I appreciate your commenting and support.
❤❤❤ thank you for giving my under eye situation a real name!
How do you do lymphatic drainage of the face please
Doctor, you are the best!!❤ I got filler there and got worse as you said. Now, I'm getting disolve and go to PRF! THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!!
I so appreciate that @angelinaperfumes. Stay tuned and have a super day.
Love.your videos. Thank you 🙏.
I so appreciate that @ebrucelikalay9416. Stay tuned and have a super day.
Very informative video. Does a blepharoplasty change the shape of your eye? I have small eyes and don't want them to appear any smaller. Looking handsome as ever!
I have this problem I thought it was due to me having sinus issues I searched the internet trying to find out what is this!!!!! And Bam here you are😱Thank you!
I so appreciate that @deloriscolvin8113. Stay tuned and have a super day.
@@rajanimdskincare Thank you I hope you have a super day as well 🙌🏽
Ive got these after a huge chronic sinus disease. Its gotten better after the sinus inflammation calms down.
Thanks for explaining this. I'm trying to live with my baggy eyes! 😊
Please tell us what to use besides Peter Thomas Roth. It works so great but the white streaks!
Very nice video
3:11 onwards- so true I’ve been telling people we look better in real life and in the mirror than in iPhone photos.
AGREE 💯, there are actually three different types of mirrors, that makes a difference too.
I'm pretty much on my own, 😱 but SADLY made the effort to travel eight hours to be with family.
So weird, I look in the mirror (especially one's I'm not use to, and I THINK 🤔 TO MYSELF, YUK, DO I ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE THAT😮.
but, people kept saying where are your wrinkles 😂.
I'm thinking are they blind🙄😮.
Not sure, but I did stop having photos taken about 10 yrs AGO, as made me depressed at what I was seeing 😢💓
That’s why I always take selfies in a mirror
The skin care you have used properly works wonders!! ❤ blonde👱♀️
I so appreciate that @Brigette6570. Stay tuned and have a super day.
This is precisely my problem. Mine is also discoloured. Thank you for the video.
You are so welcome!
Just found a Style Aesthetics provider just 2 hrs from my home. Super 😎 cool.
Thank you Dr. Rajani! I suffer from these bags from time to time. I use a Gua Sha and face taping to help drain the area.
can you tell me what tape do you use?
@@tcorkum965 might mean face tapping, not taping
I use a silicone tape but they recommend KT tape for the face
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Dr Rajan , I thank you for such excellent and detailed information. I would like to know more about lymphatic massage, please. ☺️🌺
Noted I ll make a video
Question: Has anyone done EM Face??
I have the eye bags…this was great educational piece!!🙏🏽
I wonder if any kind of fasia release, massage or exercise will help
Thank you , I'm so excited there are solutions for festoons. I have a slight one which been bothering me for years. Sometimes I look tired because of it! I will first try with the prf..Thankyou Doctor.
Did you ever resolve the issue. I have just on one side closer to the cheek area
No I have not tried yet to book an appointment.
@@demilyndem1070hate these festoons 😢
@rajanimdskincare Would lymphatic creams or draining solutions like c-prof 220 work for festoons? What about products like Dermaheal or Dives eyebag solution ?
Doc can you subsize it with a needle then the same day do co2? One co2 isn’t working for me unless 12 weeks is too soon to tell ?? Mine is minor and only one side of my face
Can castor oil help Dr Rajani?
I have mild festoon under the eyes but more towards the cheek. Looks like fluid.
I just had co2 full face three weeks ago. Love my skin but the line/lumps are still there she was aggressive there Is it too soon to tell?
Whats your opinion about needle shaping for face?
I just had co2 fractional laser face neck and chest and in two weeks I can say I absolutely love my skin. $3500 even pretty good tightening over and under my eyes. Hopefully it gets even better in a couple months??
Sadly I can say I have more like edema festoon i think was from filler on one cheek (looks like a small puffy pocket) and co2 seems to be exasperating the look of it. Will this go down? Is it too soon??
One last question about co2 in the 2nd to third week is all the tightening done? Or does more come as time passes? I’m so impatient doc 😂
Did you mention facial massage? Wouldnt that help to break up tissue??
I recently underwent quad blepharoplasty on my upper and lower eyelids and have noticed a sunken tear duct causing dark circles under my eyes. My surgeon assured me that it looks good and advised patience until the sutures come out and the swelling subsides, but I am still experiencing these issues. I would greatly appreciate any guidance or advice you can offer, doctor.
Doc I use tretinoin every night when would I use a glycolic pad?
I Love you dr.Anil ❤
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Does Rf microneedling cause fat loss?
Thank you for everything you teach us Dr. Rajani! I’ve had under eye HA fillers done almost 3 years ago, developed festoons quickly thereafter (one side faster than the other), and they never went away since. Do festoons go away when the filler’s dissipated (which I assume would’ve happened by now), am I stuck with them forever unless trying the remedies you are mentioning? Thank you
Filler may take 10 years to dissipate. I dissolve it therefore.
Thank you for the insightful video. Please also give comments in near future about fat loss from elbows and hands when getting older. Possible solutions: radiesse? sculptra,.. or other fillers? Thanks in advance.
What do you think of.vertue rf
Dr. What is your opinion about laser endolift and malar festoons? thank you so much!
I would like to know the difference of endo lift and co2. I just had the co2 for festoon edema 11 weeks ago and it’s still there 🤦♀️
Doc I have a question
I had co2 9 weeks ago and have what looks like festoon edema on one cheek. If I ever so slightly tug the skin upward the edema seems to disappear a bit. Do you suggest to do thread lift ? How would you handle this fluid looking lump? I’m tired of rubbing and doing lymph draining. It’s exhausting to make it disappear for a short period of turn throughout the day. Thanks in advance and I’m 60 for reference
How about malar edema ?
Hey Doc what can I do for skin thinning EVERYWHERE!!
What do you suggest?
Should I just give in to old age?
Since it's a lymphatic issue, does having your tonsils taken out have an effect?
Small PDO threads made a huge difference on mine.
Thanks for sharing
I have more of the Mylar fissures/groove without the bag… so difficult to treat 🙈
So, I guess it's not our fault when our camera takes terrible pictures,it's the lighting!,😅. I love your videos, you're very cool!!
Yes!!! And thank you for watching. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Yes got mine after filler. Fluid on one cheek. What can I do? Lymph drainage is doing nothing HELP
Yup got mine after filler 🤦♀️. Had co2 four weeks ago and the cheeks look worse 🤦♀️. Maybe in time????! What do you think doc? Use tretinoin too 🤦♀️ I’m so upset
Update four weeks out and doc said it’s fluid from co2 treatment and too early to try to do anything other than lymphatic drainage techniques and jade roller, heat then ice.
Doc what do you think ? Do you ever have a client get fluid trapped after co2???
Thank you Dr Rajani do you have a video on how and where to inject the prf to avoid hitting any veins that can cause problems? for under eyes and cheeks.
Veins are not the problem. Arteries are.
My derm recommended UltraClear laser for the undereye. What do you think?
It's just a laser like halo or pixels. Its good if you have an expert operator
Isn’t the issue more a facia dropping issue? Like face lift or eye lift would be a cheaper more long term solution no?
Could you please discuss these topics in light of a filaggrin FLG mutation found in 20-40% of people of Northern European decent?
Hi Dr., I watched a video for Dr. Sarah Tonks that there's a protocol to use HIFU to increase fat pads instead of harm them. Interesting!
I think I got some fluid retention on one cheek from co2 it’s like a white line of fluid puffs. Will it go away?? Would jade rolling help?
I'm looking for the video mentionned at 3:18. IT,s not in the description as of now. Thanks.
Just added it now in the endscreen. It's now click able and in the description
I was looking for this kind of information.. thank you so much🤩🤩👌🏽
My pleasure 😊
I did not have these until I used the undereye “ micro darts” patches
Capern, what is that?
Made by “ dermatology” u
@@CapeRN Oh No …. I hope it’s just an allergic reaction and it goes away…. I went to the urgent care and the doctor told me to put preparation H just a small amount there and also ice pack but I am going to the ENT doctor and also a dermatologist next week because this happened all of a sudden after suffering the eye emergency on the opposite eye.
Hey doctor! I’m 28 and they suddenly appeared during sinus infection and allergy episode. At the moment i suspect histamine intolerance, so i believe my festoons are filled with fluid. Can i do prf or swelling from procedure worsen festoons?
Water retention?
Different subject❤did you watch the Oscars? If so why was everyone's face was so shinny, thank you Dr Rajani 😊
Glass skin is in. A page from Korea. Watch my glass skin vids
I m positive that didn't have those malar edema situation before and you are right it looks more prominent with overhead lights. But unfortunately those lights are everywhere. Now what can I do? I am suffering with those without fillers.
I did get fluid accumulation from co2. What can we do for that ??? Please I hate this small lump, one cheek
My right under eye gets lumpy underneath. I had a Belletera filler 2 years ago how can I get rid of this
BELOTERO...YES
I had morpheus eyes to try and help with mine. Cost a small fortune, hurt like billyo and did absolutely nothing.
What about sinus?!
I have mild festoons . I got them as soon as i got filler under my eyes . Needless to say , i don’t do fillers . I don’t do lymphatic massage but i use a foreo and i think it does exactly what a lymphatic massage is supposed to do . I’m trying hifu and rf microneedling ( with regular microneedling ) and will consider surgery if this doesn’t resolve it
Hi can you tell
Me if anything has worked for you ? I did co2 and now I seem to have a small pouch of fluid near my cheek. My doc is saying festoon.
I Didn’t have this before. I think it might be migrated cheek filler I have been doing lymphatic drainage, jade rolling, icing and safflower oil for the past 6 weeks Nothing helps. What are the things that your doing please if you don’t mind sharing
Hi! Doctor after dissolving fillers with hyulorinidase and under eye and tear trough becomes deep and under eye volume dissipates how long it could under eye will recover the lose of volume? without using any kinds of fillers .It is 6 to 8 months continue hydration? Or need of collagen supplements for fast recovery? Thanks and advance for the your reply
Food and collagen plus creams like the one I ll introduce next Sunday. I often inject plasmafil.com
I came on the resultat, that has mit Kidney and D-Vitamin a probelm. i tried more D-Vitamin and it works.
So taking vitamin D, got rid of it for you?
Pls how did you take the vit D thanks?
Thank you for having a translation in Arabic
Absolutley. I m always trying to improve and you asked. Hopefully I delivered. Make it a great one!
Dr. Rajani,
Forgive me if you already have a video on this somewhere, but would you comment on gua sha/ facial massage/ lymphatic drainage on someone who has previously received dermal fillers and/or Botox/dysport and if that’s counterproductive or not? 🙏 Thank you endlessly for all the information! I start my days with your videos while I do my makeup 😊
Yes but it's complex. Depends on what fillers where. I ll have a video soon
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I went to a plastic surgeon at Cleveland Clinic who does blephs and told me she doesnt know how to treat festoons. I am glad there are home remedies. Shes full of it
no she is not. she is honest. we have no medical or surgical treatment for festoons. She saved your money and told you the truth. Be grateful.
Does diephenhydramine interact negatively with PRF? I've been prescribed it for insomnia brought on after 6 weeks of a fracture and also getting a PRF treatment as I'm working from home currently so it's a good time to do it.
No it is fine with prf
I guess castor would be good for those fibrous tissues then?
I need your help urgently please. Because the doctors here in my country can't help me. I got PDA threadlift 5 days ago (on 15.02.2024). I have puckering on left cheek which they said will be gone in few weeks. But last 2/3 days my skin was feeling very very tight and bit tingly. So I put vaseline on my entire face (slugging). Today when I woke up my face is red, itching, have rashes and burning sensation. I'm confused is it because of the vaseline or I have an infection or something wrong with the thread lift. I'm really scared. Please help me doctor.
Can you expand on at what level of the skin would be subsized?
It depends on your skin thickness. Male skin like mine will be thicker and needs deeper, Female estrogen depleted skin on the other spectrum will be much thinner if it is especially type 1 to 3. This is why you need expert assessment. Research the Zygomaticus cutaneous ligament.
That helps me understand, thank you 🙏 !
Dear dr Rajani, can one get a facelift later if there is bellafill in the face? Thank you.
Not too much bellafill. But yes. Takes a little longer to dissect
I have hyaluronic acid under eye fillers for 5 months, and they caused a little malar bags and eye bags. Can I use prf under eye without dissolve hyaluronic acid?
Thanks @joannakarolak6368 . In my practice if the filler does not look good I dissolve first. No need to work around something that is not looking good to start
Thank you@@rajanimdskincare
Im almost 24 and have it ): . Any tips? I was really depressed for months and would sleep almost everyday with my makeup. It all of sudden caused ny skin to react in this way. Eveen when i put makeup, you can see the malar bags.