I haven't built yet but I've got 2x32gb Vengeance 5200... Hoping all goes well. A lot of DDR5 videos are from a year ago and it's all doom and gloom about boot issues. This made me feel a little better haha thanks dude.
No problem! I am posting an updated video since the release of the new AMD series and new motherboards. Be on the look out for it in the next couple of days!
On boot, I only got 1 stick of DRR5 Corsair Dominator to be recognized (dual channel) Second stick - nada yet. Just first fire up. Probably bios. Will update after the holiday.
I can't boot with the XMP profile with 64gb x4 sticks, I just bootloop, might wait a few bios updates to see if it gets fixed im using a Prime z790-a WIFI. However I can boot with x2 sticks with XMP.. I tried a fix video to alter the xmp profile but it did not work. and this is at 5600 speed
@@D4RKMA7TER I finally got mine to run in dual channel (2 sticks of 32, but I had to use different slots than was recommended) and yes it’s still dual channel. I understand the XMP profile has been an issue as well. I’m not running in xmp as just getting the system stable was key. Seems fine now. 13900k and 4090. I use this one for forensic rendering. I think it’s an issue of waiting for the software and bios to catch up….
The latest update is that things have been clearing up with the BIOS updates and definitely have been getting better. I would highly recommended doing a bios update before you enable the Intel XMP or AMD EXPO. This will get you the best results! Let me know if you have any issues on the build, happy to help!
Yep, MSI MPG z790 motherboard, excellent board. Just upgraded from 64 to 128 and after 3 days of BS, found out that all I needed to do is flash my BIOS/ Update it and realize that even though I purchased 6000MHz, not gonna happen. but I am happy with the results because now my $4000 PC boots in 36 sec. I have over 200 Steam games and the high demanding graphical games like RDR2, CyberPunk 2024, hell at first Ghost of Tsushima would not even open due to lack of memory and I am running a RTX 4090 24GB, 64 RAM. So, now I allocate 64RAM to virtual for gaming and max all my games out, unless they don't look good maxed. Smooth as butter. So, the verdict... you can OC and do whatever you want in the BIOS and make your retail memory run at the purchased MHz or invest in a descent motherboard that will allow the RAM to function properly. I am retired and just said the hell with it, you can have a nice PC for less. I have a laptop that runs fine as well, $2800. BIOS Flash
Yes it is possible if you know how to adjust the timings in your bios, but 99% of people building today are looking to click their Intel XMP or AMD Expo profiles and call it a day which does not work well if at all when running 4 sticks.
Great video but Quad Channel is not very common on consumer motherboards, mostly its seen on servers/workstations motherboards maybe instead of mentioning ¨Quad Channel¨ I would use 4 sticks vs 2 sticks of RAM and yes that's the reason I stopped trying to buy another 2 stick DDR5 6000MHz kit to populate all the four slots of my build!!
I'm running a z690 gaming f by ASUS with 2x16gb DDR5 @ 6400 mhz (g skill).I believe I'm using XMP II. Works as it should. I have not tried to OC further though.
16x4 gskill trident z with aorus master mb and I have it running smooth at 6400, havent even tried pushing further all i know is its slightly unstable at 7200.
Well my friend, please help me here because I have been having some real trouble for months now trying to run 4x16 on ASUS x670E Hero with a 7950x3D. I have tried several combinations, whet do you syuggest?
My suggestion is do not run x4 sticks. The maximum you can run with two sticks is 96GB that's your stable limit. They make specific kits for this exact purpose.
i bought two expensive kits of 64 GB 6600 MHz but using only one kit now. x4 modules 32gb each won't even post on 6660 and really stable frequency is 5600. Exactly 1000 MHz lower. Very sad, but i need high speeds so decided to stay on two sticks 6600. i wandering if they going to fix it... maybe intel14th gen memory controller will be more stable
Just finished build for MIDI Orchestration: i9-13900KF, MSI Z790 Carbon WiFi, G.Skill Z5 Trident DDR5 128GB (4x32) CL28 5600, annnnnnd.... I have to run at 4000 right now for stability, the MSI BIOS isn't ready yet. No XMP yet, as of 1-15-23. SO, you called it, spot on for now. I lowered it to 5200 and it posted sometimes, so for now, I'll just leave it be. UserBench mark gave it 132% for now, that's fine. Orchestration NEEDS 128GB, no choice really.
There are many use case scenarios where 128GB is needed. I am hoping most of the issues get resolved with BIOS updates. Keep an eye on your motherboards manufactures site for BIOS releases. Likely they will provide better stability for the DDR5.
Thank you for this video - not much content creators covering this topic which I find weird... I have XMP II (Manufacturer's Profile) enabled on my Maximus Z690 Extreme with 4 x 16 6200Mhz. DOES NOT WORK over 5400Mhz for me personally. Waiting on BIOS updates right now, but sheesh. At the end of the day I have great RAM - Better than 4800Mhz though. Subbed, liked, notifications for you!!
Thank you, much appreciated! Yes, the speeds are difficult to achieve, waiting on DDR5 to Mature.. I just added a newer video covering some of the new things since AMD launched its new CPU lineup, th-cam.com/video/zTUZ134GysI/w-d-xo.html
@Empower Gaming Computers well im hype for AMD - I'll definitely give it a watch. Sucks that I went from a 5950x -> Intel 13900k. Should've stayed AMD -_-
thanks man im trying to learn about this, ive been told to go with 6000 cl30 if i can, witch is fine but the type and brand i want are 6200 cl36, is this still fine? i have i7 12700k, 4080 and ROG formula mobo
Go with an Intel XMP Ready kit. You should be fine with the 6000MHz Speeds, worse case you run the ram at a slower speed until DDR5 matures. I am posting an updated video about the DDR5 topic that will help explain the difference between Intel XMP and AMD EXPO ram kits.
honestly looking like intel is the one with the advertised speed failures. as far as what im seeing for amd expo is that those speeds are running smoothly.
I should have provided more detail there or just not even mentioned it, Quad Channel does require 4 sticks. I did not deliver with the best detail there and will admit it. Ill fix it
So I run 128gb(4 32gb sticks) my pc will only boot with two of the sticks in. BUT when I restart after starting with two sticks and put the other two sticks in (all 4sticks) it runs perfectly fine. DDR5 is nice but so weird rn
Did you trying setting it at lower speeds? I am going to try 128gb this weekend as well :D I have ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO, Ryzen 9 7950X and I am go with 2x G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series 64GB (2 x 32GB)
I just took my new pc build to a computer center because I can’t get it to boot at all. Ryzen 5 7600 X670E Tuf gaming 7900 xtx Corsair 32g 5600 ram Corsair 1000w power supply
Thank you for calling out specifics on the video, it helps me to deliver better quality information going forward. I really do not have anyone checking my information before posting. Feel free to reach out if you would like to help me before posting videos in the future. Last thing I want to do is deliver false information.
I do not see any 32GB kits available at 6000MHz, the highest speeds I see are 5200MHz which is for Intel XMP Profile. www.amazon.com/G-Skill-RipJaws-SO-DIMM-CL38-38-38-83-F5-5200S3838A16GA2-RS/dp/B0B1L42MS7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HOQSB4ZQ818G&keywords=Laptop%2BDDR5%2B6000%2B32GB&qid=1671995880&sprefix=laptop%2Bddr5%2B6000%2B32gb%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-1&th=1
I have 4x16 gb 6000 MHz Vengeance. I couldn't run them together even at 3600 MHz. Using 2x16 Gb at 5200 MHz unfortunately. Asus motherboard supports up to 6400 MHz, Ryzen 7 series 5200 MHz only. Should i wait for bios update or sell?
The issues with X4 DDR5 sticks continue to be a problem. We do not see a solution anytime soon at this point. I would recommend checking your Motherboard's support list and getting a kit that is confirmed compatible with your board. At least you will be able to run two sticks at 6000+
@@empowergamingcomputers when i use two sticks in expo mode at 6000mhz i get sudden crashes in windows 11. Asus recommends Cl40 corsair sticks. I wasn't avare of it and i bought CL30.
I agree here yes they have been this way for sometime, I have not done many of these videos so definitely need to learn to keep it on topic and not mention some things I am not going into detail on. I should have kept it at Intel has done some big changes to the Memory controller and then left it at that.
You made this vid 6 months ago, with ZERO correction or followup post spout - what gives? You were "right" in the scond but horribly wrong over time. Why have you chose to not address this @empowered? almost seems like an algorithim spike try.....
There are still issues with DDR5 while trying to run 4 sticks You can even check that with your own research. Yes DDR5 has matured slowly but still lots of issues with running 4 sticks at XMP or AMD EXPO advertised speeds. It is still valid. I do plan to release an updated video once its confirmed fully working as it should be.
2024 still having these issues. Video aged well!
Great in depth video bro! This really cleared up a lot for me
Glad it was helpful, Happy Building!
Whew. Dodged that bullet since I ordered dual channel DDR5.
Definitely helps to run dual channel.
Thanks for the info man, really good video!
Glad it was helpful!
I haven't built yet but I've got 2x32gb Vengeance 5200... Hoping all goes well. A lot of DDR5 videos are from a year ago and it's all doom and gloom about boot issues. This made me feel a little better haha thanks dude.
No problem! I am posting an updated video since the release of the new AMD series and new motherboards. Be on the look out for it in the next couple of days!
On boot, I only got 1 stick of DRR5 Corsair Dominator to be recognized (dual channel) Second stick - nada yet. Just first fire up. Probably bios. Will update after the holiday.
I can't boot with the XMP profile with 64gb x4 sticks, I just bootloop, might wait a few bios updates to see if it gets fixed im using a Prime z790-a WIFI. However I can boot with x2 sticks with XMP.. I tried a fix video to alter the xmp profile but it did not work. and this is at 5600 speed
@@D4RKMA7TER I finally got mine to run in dual channel (2 sticks of 32, but I had to use different slots than was recommended) and yes it’s still dual channel. I understand the XMP profile has been an issue as well. I’m not running in xmp as just getting the system stable was key. Seems fine now. 13900k and 4090. I use this one for forensic rendering. I think it’s an issue of waiting for the software and bios to catch up….
The latest update is that things have been clearing up with the BIOS updates and definitely have been getting better. I would highly recommended doing a bios update before you enable the Intel XMP or AMD EXPO. This will get you the best results! Let me know if you have any issues on the build, happy to help!
One of the few ppl to talk about DDR5 4 sticks DIMMs Quad Channel issues.
This video needs more views to spread awareness.
Just trying to share the knowledge. I am going to post a new video shortly going into some more details.
@@empowergamingcomputers thanks. Hope your channel grows
Yep, MSI MPG z790 motherboard, excellent board. Just upgraded from 64 to 128 and after 3 days of BS, found out that all I needed to do is flash my BIOS/ Update it and realize that even though I purchased 6000MHz, not gonna happen. but I am happy with the results because now my $4000 PC boots in 36 sec. I have over 200 Steam games and the high demanding graphical games like RDR2, CyberPunk 2024, hell at first Ghost of Tsushima would not even open due to lack of memory and I am running a RTX 4090 24GB, 64 RAM.
So, now I allocate 64RAM to virtual for gaming and max all my games out, unless they don't look good maxed. Smooth as butter.
So, the verdict... you can OC and do whatever you want in the BIOS and make your retail memory run at the purchased MHz or invest in a descent motherboard that will allow the RAM to function properly. I am retired and just said the hell with it, you can have a nice PC for less. I have a laptop that runs fine as well, $2800. BIOS Flash
Yes it is possible if you know how to adjust the timings in your bios, but 99% of people building today are looking to click their Intel XMP or AMD Expo profiles and call it a day which does not work well if at all when running 4 sticks.
My DDR5 got stable ad 6000mhz
Above 6000 it gets unstable.
AMD system needs lots of tweaking.
Great video but Quad Channel is not very common on consumer motherboards, mostly its seen on servers/workstations motherboards maybe instead of mentioning ¨Quad Channel¨ I would use 4 sticks vs 2 sticks of RAM and yes that's the reason I stopped trying to buy another 2 stick DDR5 6000MHz kit to populate all the four slots of my build!!
I'm running a z690 gaming f by ASUS with 2x16gb DDR5 @ 6400 mhz (g skill).I believe I'm using XMP II. Works as it should. I have not tried to OC further though.
Dual Channel has been most successful, you are running an Intel XMP certified kit with an Intel chipset which also helps!
16x4 gskill trident z with aorus master mb and I have it running smooth at 6400, havent even tried pushing further all i know is its slightly unstable at 7200.
That's awesome! Are you running AMD or Intel? I would assume AMD as most of the issues have been on Intel boards
@Empower Gaming Computers actually Intel, I have xmp enabled for the voltage boost and then I manually lowered the frequency to 6400.
What is the model number for those gskills? Thank you in advance.
@@epremsoft f5-7200j3445g16g these are Hynix A dies.
Just built a AM5 system with Ryzen 5 7600X memory I got is 6000hmz but won't post, dual channel, so run at 5600mhz, runs fine, not sure why.
Well my friend, please help me here because I have been having some real trouble for months now trying to run 4x16 on ASUS x670E Hero with a 7950x3D. I have tried several combinations, whet do you syuggest?
My suggestion is do not run x4 sticks. The maximum you can run with two sticks is 96GB that's your stable limit. They make specific kits for this exact purpose.
I got Asus Maximus hero Z790 working with 4x viper patriot ddr5 6200mhz at full speed there is a video on you tube too do this, I have no issues
It is a little tricky and possible to get the speeds with 4 sticks. The idea of XMP is supposed to make it simple which is not working as it should.
Kington renegade at 6400 mhz with 32 CL is better from kingston renegade 7200mhz with 38 CL?
i bought two expensive kits of 64 GB 6600 MHz
but using only one kit now. x4 modules 32gb each won't even post on 6660 and really stable frequency is 5600. Exactly 1000 MHz lower. Very sad, but i need high speeds so decided to stay on two sticks 6600. i wandering if they going to fix it... maybe intel14th gen memory controller will be more stable
I got 16 gigs 4800 for 62 dollars. Crucial brand on Amazon
that is an awesome deal for DDR5, solid find!
Just finished build for MIDI Orchestration: i9-13900KF, MSI Z790 Carbon WiFi, G.Skill Z5 Trident DDR5 128GB (4x32) CL28 5600, annnnnnd.... I have to run at 4000 right now for stability, the MSI BIOS isn't ready yet. No XMP yet, as of 1-15-23. SO, you called it, spot on for now. I lowered it to 5200 and it posted sometimes, so for now, I'll just leave it be. UserBench mark gave it 132% for now, that's fine. Orchestration NEEDS 128GB, no choice really.
There are many use case scenarios where 128GB is needed. I am hoping most of the issues get resolved with BIOS updates. Keep an eye on your motherboards manufactures site for BIOS releases. Likely they will provide better stability for the DDR5.
@@empowergamingcomputers Yep, check it every week, lol
Thank you for this video - not much content creators covering this topic which I find weird...
I have XMP II (Manufacturer's Profile) enabled on my Maximus Z690 Extreme with 4 x 16 6200Mhz. DOES NOT WORK over 5400Mhz for me personally. Waiting on BIOS updates right now, but sheesh.
At the end of the day I have great RAM - Better than 4800Mhz though.
Subbed, liked, notifications for you!!
Thank you, much appreciated! Yes, the speeds are difficult to achieve, waiting on DDR5 to Mature.. I just added a newer video covering some of the new things since AMD launched its new CPU lineup, th-cam.com/video/zTUZ134GysI/w-d-xo.html
@Empower Gaming Computers well im hype for AMD - I'll definitely give it a watch.
Sucks that I went from a 5950x -> Intel 13900k.
Should've stayed AMD -_-
Team red is the way :)
5 months later... any succes? I have 4 x 16GB/5600Mhz I want to use with XMP II
Just built a AM5 system with Ryzen 5 7600X memory I got is 6000hmz but isn't stable so run at 5600mhz, not sure why.
thanks man im trying to learn about this, ive been told to go with 6000 cl30 if i can, witch is fine but the type and brand i want are 6200 cl36, is this still fine? i have i7 12700k, 4080 and ROG formula mobo
Go with an Intel XMP Ready kit. You should be fine with the 6000MHz Speeds, worse case you run the ram at a slower speed until DDR5 matures. I am posting an updated video about the DDR5 topic that will help explain the difference between Intel XMP and AMD EXPO ram kits.
honestly looking like intel is the one with the advertised speed failures. as far as what im seeing for amd expo is that those speeds are running smoothly.
Yes, I agree here mostly Intel is where I have come across the issues with DDR5 and hitting the advertised speeds
Umm. Four slots does not mean "quad channel". Wow.
I should have provided more detail there or just not even mentioned it, Quad Channel does require 4 sticks. I did not deliver with the best detail there and will admit it. Ill fix it
After seeing this i stay with my 5950x I play at 4k ddr5 sounds like a headache I better upgrade to a faster GPU
I'm running 6400mhz at 4 sticks at 64gigs just fine on ddr5
Me too.. is it because of the latest bios updates?
What ram do you have ??Corsair ??
I would also like to know more details here. What CPU/Motherboard and ram kit are you using?
People throw a comment then delete youtube i guess. Mostly they don’t reply back 😂😂😅
So I run 128gb(4 32gb sticks) my pc will only boot with two of the sticks in. BUT when I restart after starting with two sticks and put the other two sticks in (all 4sticks) it runs perfectly fine. DDR5 is nice but so weird rn
Did you trying setting it at lower speeds? I am going to try 128gb this weekend as well :D I have ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO, Ryzen 9 7950X and I am go with 2x G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series 64GB (2 x 32GB)
My 64 ram 4 sticks 5600 MHz runs like a champ 🏆
It does seem to be getting better with newer BIOS releases. Seeing less issues than before.
Which motherboard are you using with 4x ddr5?
@@netfreak6993 Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE AX
@@cinecraft.films. ah yes gigabyte have more issues then any other brand.
I just took my new pc build to a computer center because I can’t get it to boot at all. Ryzen 5 7600
X670E Tuf gaming
7900 xtx
Corsair 32g 5600 ram
Corsair 1000w power supply
I am going to post a new video going into more detail, AMD EXPO RAM Kits for AMD builds and Intel XMP Ram Kits for Intel CPU's
Did you get it to post? if not feel free to reach out!
I took it to Microcenter last week, waiting for them to tell me the issue
@@Pro3men2 Did you ever find out what the problem was?
@@empowergamingcomputers yes, the motherboard was either incompatible or microcenter gave me two broken motherboards.
I surely hope your builds look pretty😂
Thank you for calling out specifics on the video, it helps me to deliver better quality information going forward. I really do not have anyone checking my information before posting. Feel free to reach out if you would like to help me before posting videos in the future. Last thing I want to do is deliver false information.
just to add below, with Intel's i9/139000k
PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE A SODIMM DDR5 6000HX 2X16 LOOKING TO UPGRADE A UM690 FROM 4800
I do not see any 32GB kits available at 6000MHz, the highest speeds I see are 5200MHz which is for Intel XMP Profile.
www.amazon.com/G-Skill-RipJaws-SO-DIMM-CL38-38-38-83-F5-5200S3838A16GA2-RS/dp/B0B1L42MS7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HOQSB4ZQ818G&keywords=Laptop%2BDDR5%2B6000%2B32GB&qid=1671995880&sprefix=laptop%2Bddr5%2B6000%2B32gb%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-1&th=1
SORRY I COMMENT ON THE WAR ETC TH-cam SHUT MT DOWN FREE SPEECH LOL THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXHAUSTIVE HELP@@empowergamingcomputers
how about 1 stick of 16gb ? 4800mhz
I would recommend trying to stay with dual channel (X2 sticks)
I’m there….. mistakes were made
4x32 can only get 4000mhz…….
yeaaa got 6000 in quad and cant get above 5800
Keep an eye out for BIOS updates for your motherboard. These issues I assume will be resolved with new releases.
Its not mhz any longer it MT/s
I am an old school builder, I have been building for a long time. Ill be sure to use more modern terms in the future.
I have 4x16 gb 6000 MHz Vengeance. I couldn't run them together even at 3600 MHz. Using 2x16 Gb at 5200 MHz unfortunately. Asus motherboard supports up to 6400 MHz, Ryzen 7 series 5200 MHz only. Should i wait for bios update or sell?
The issues with X4 DDR5 sticks continue to be a problem. We do not see a solution anytime soon at this point. I would recommend checking your Motherboard's support list and getting a kit that is confirmed compatible with your board. At least you will be able to run two sticks at 6000+
@@empowergamingcomputers when i use two sticks in expo mode at 6000mhz i get sudden crashes in windows 11. Asus recommends Cl40 corsair sticks. I wasn't avare of it and i bought CL30.
Good grief. The memory controllers are all on the CPU... for like every CPU or SOC made in the past decade.
I agree here yes they have been this way for sometime, I have not done many of these videos so definitely need to learn to keep it on topic and not mention some things I am not going into detail on. I should have kept it at Intel has done some big changes to the Memory controller and then left it at that.
F*ck... i just bought 2 extra 16GB sticks...
For Intel of AMD?
@@empowergamingcomputers intel 12900k
This asian dude looks like AI generated
It wouldn't surprise me, I use a lot of TeamGroup products so just pulled up their content for the background.
You made this vid 6 months ago, with ZERO correction or followup post spout - what gives? You were "right" in the scond but horribly wrong over time. Why have you chose to not address this @empowered? almost seems like an algorithim spike try.....
There are still issues with DDR5 while trying to run 4 sticks You can even check that with your own research. Yes DDR5 has matured slowly but still lots of issues with running 4 sticks at XMP or AMD EXPO advertised speeds. It is still valid. I do plan to release an updated video once its confirmed fully working as it should be.
Corrections yes I still need to correct some wording. I am not perfect.
almost seems like an algorithim spike try - no sorry its not. I am just a PC guy trying to spread the word of his own experiences to help others.
Could you just get to the point?
Jeez, listening to you ramble then not have an original thought is a huge waste of our time.
this was one of my first attempts at putting together a topic discussion. I am sorry it does not meet your expectations.