Nah, actually it doesn't, same thing for almost all scenarios. I should have tested FC6 now that I think of it though. Still, I will retest it later with DDR5
@@AncientGameplays Hey, so, I use HWiNFO64 while gaming. Bear with me lol.. So, in HWiNFO64, you can see DRAM Read Bandwidth and DRAM Write Bandwidth. The jury is still out on exactly how accurate that is. It says Gbps, but it appears to actually be GBytes/s and also only showing one channel. At least, that's how it looks and what other people think after running Aida64 memory benchmark and watching HWiNFO64. Okay, anyways... on my 3600 + RX480 8GB + 2x8GB single rank/dual channel, I rarely saw games make that average over "2 Gbps" DRAM Read Bandwidth. The write bandwidth was always significantly lower. The game that stood out on that set up was Halo Infinite, it averaged 8 Gbps read and 2 Gbps write. Now I have a 5900x + 6700xt + 2x16GB dual rank/dual channel. I can now use SAM. Now I'm always seeing much higher readings for DRAM read/write. I.. just found this interesting. Not sure if it has to do with SAM or just this set up along with the extra frames per second. Plus some games just have higher readings than others. Do you or anyone else reading this ever pay attention to that? It might be interesting to note when comparing RAM configurations while gaming. Especially in games that tend to push it higher on average. Halo Infinite is probably the one that pushes it the highest that I've noticed. I think it's closer to 20 Gbps read average on my current set up in Halo.. but I wish I had taken notes before seeing this and commenting lol.
@@JustAGuy85 2 ranks per channel is the optimal configuration for ryzen memory controllers. Single rank per channel limits the memory controller and results in higher latency and reduced bandwidth.
He literally failed to mention the impact of ram speed/timings or mention which ram kits he used or what speeds he ran them at. All of those variables can affect fps
@@andrewpapadakis1307 I think it was the problem, almost of AM4 mobo support 3200/3000 "if only 2 ram installed", if 4 installed it was limited to 2666 CMIIW 🤔
Using four sticks of ram on a dual-channel system is slightly slower because it takes time for the memory controller to address the sticks separately. Each stick of ram on a given channel uses the same data lines, and the only way the sticks know which one is being talked to is that the memory controller addresses them independently. With only one stick per ram channel, this is unnecessary, and so things are very slightly faster. Of course, the results depend on more than just the ram configuration, hence the variable results you got.
Four sticks should be on a quad-channel system. If these 4 sticks of ram are configured to a different channel system, it will have stability and compatibility issues . Four sticks of ram on a quad-channel system will run without any issues and it's faster than 1 stick and 2 stick of rams configured on single and dual channel system respectively but it requires an expensive motherboard. Because the more sticks of ram, the more memory bandwith you have and this leads to a lower cpu consumption by 10%-20%
The benchmarks clearly show that it doesn't really matter for games whether it's dual channel or single channel. For loading times for games or programs, however, this can be more important.
The issue I have with these benchmarks is, they always take the same tripple A benchmark games that mostly only make sense regarding GPU. After 10 games that show the GPU bottleneck in these games is severe, maybe one could consider looking for games that are specifically ram and/or CPU intensive. I personally only have seen significant difference in ram usage in Anno 1800 where the game ate nearly 18 gigs of ram after I upgraded to 32gb, before that it was limited to ~12gb with 16gb ram iirc. After watching a lot of hardware videos my observation is that generally ram has extremely minimalistic effect on performance unless you completely cheap out or buy the most expensive stuff. A decent 32gb kit will be ~100€ and perform almost identical to a 200€ one and even a 60€ 16gb kit will hold up fine for most games. On the loading times - mehh I doubt there will be any noticeable difference loading a game unless you literally run it as a ram disk, haven't found any good examples for ram size/speed and measurable loading time improvements for games outside that. I'd say direct storage will be the next big thing and hopefully can be applied on older games too some day.
@@AncientGameplays I was thinking about getting a ryzen 5 5600g without a dedicated GPU, 4x4 should be a better option than 2x8 right? I'm not going to get a dedicated GPU soon since I don't game.
Clearly 2x16GB or 4x8GB is the right answer. Also the single channel vs dual channel memory matters more for APU. Using an APU with single channel memory is like running on one leg.
@@AncientGameplays Two years ago we talked to you about your first music video. And I, like my colleague here, wrote that at APU these differences are greater and are in favor of the 4x4 single rank. I had also asked you to do a test with APU using the same method Here, a large part of the test is limited by the video card, but at 1080p the difference is visible. I'm already on 4x8 dual rank and the difference isn't much bigger than 4x4 but it's still there
@@psychoalert1823 If your system exposes the memory bottleneck, then the reduced OC/tuning potential matters. More likely is that eliminating the single channel bottleneck exposes the next rate limiting element. If you have a GPU that can outpace mainstream CPU, then memory optimization becomes relevant. However if you have a mainstream GPU, then eliminating the single channel bottleneck has likely made your CPU/Memory fast enough to feed the GPU and the speed cannot be further enhanced.
I see 5600x is a lot less affected by ram than 1600x, when i bought 1600x i got faulty ram stick so i first tested it in single channel and there was actually huge gains from going to dual channel, it was more like 30-50% gains.
He is really smart and very informative... his benchmarks are really good. I do benchmarks myself and also watch other benchmarks and his findings is most inline with my own findings...
Good video. I'm currently running 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600 C16. Customer reviews says these are dual rank, but CPU-Z tells me they're actually single rank. Not that it matters to me, they run fine with XMP 2.0 and everything's smooth, so I'm happy.
Thanks for this well done - informative video. Having a "Matched" ram kit is important for "Overclocking" ram- running at the XMP Profile. A matched ram kit has been tested to run at the rated XMP profile for that memory.
2 x 16 is my preference. 16 gb is enough for most games especially on 1080p but why limit yourself in some games like Doom for example (not best example but 😆) & heavy modding in games. Also maybe you'd like to stream and record etc in future so for me 32 gb makes most sense and gives plenty of headroom. Maybe an extra $100 but worth it in my opinion.
you live in a different world my friend, 8 GB should be enough for most games unless you wanna play in dx 12 (games in dx12 mode eat all of my ram) i do have 4 slots so i could upgrade sometime soon as 8 GB is NOT enough for heavily modded gaming
@@Fogolol i am not sure i have played a modern game in years that suggest less then 16 for the minimum specs and windows itself probably doesn't like it either... will always do 32gb min in a build now days
With AM4 Ryzen CPUs, they used a 256bit memory interface that was split into two 128bit channels and each channel supporting two 64bit ranks. From what I briefly learned when choosing my memory configuration, depending on what motherboard (specifically the memory tracer layout) is used and what you wanted to do with your memory determined what the best configuration of memory you should have. From what I remember, Parallel/T-topology boards tracers split before reaching the pins in the memory slots which allows each slot to be equal distances from the memory controller on the CPU, allowing for more stable system when using all of the available memory slots for more memory capacity. Series/daisy chained boards on the other hand are wired directly to one memory slot which then is sequentially linked to the next DIMM slot, essentially queuing the second DIMM slot behind the first (hence daisy chained), I don't know if this has any benefits regarding frequency performance, but it must do something otherwise all motherboards would be T-topology. Depending on what you want to do, the memory configuration should look a little something like this: Overclock for world records = 1 x Single Rank memory module (memory tracer layout probably not important with so few ranks). Overclocking = Daisy chained and use 2 x Single Rank memory modules (slightly less performance than using four ranks, more than made up for with overclocking though). Non-overclocking your memory = Daisy chained and use 2 x Dual Rank memory modules. Non-overclocking your memory + option to increase memory capacity at later date = T-topology motherboard with 2 x Single Rank memory modules (two more at later date brings rank count up to four, increasing performance). Max memory capacity = T-topology and use 4 x Dual Rank memory modules (eight ranks equals lower memory speed to improve stability, T-topology layout negates some of the stability issues with four dual rank DIMMs). With all that said, we're moving on to DDR5 memory which has shook things up with how memory channels and ranks are laid out and I've not looked into as I have no intention of replacing my system any time soon. Not to mention there is also the X3D variants of CPUs which make high speed memory less important.
My conclusion is, get whichever is CHEAPER, they seems have no difference to me. in 1080p, the fps is too high to notice that 2 or 3 fps difference, and in 4k everything is bottlenecked by the GPU. If there is no price difference, get the 16gb one for future update.
É a primeira vez (e provavelmente a última) que faço isto em mais de 5 anos de canal, e bem, só as hotas que gastei a melhorar este video dava para ter feito um de raiz. A única coisa aproveitada aqui foi de facto os dados, de resto foi tudo novo
G Skill Trident Z Neo RGB cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb single rank sticks dual channel overclocked to cl14 3800mhz with the timings tightened to the fullest fully stable lead to major increase in FPS performance.
@@AncientGameplays Or has lousy 2ndary/tertiary timings, especially on AMD, though this isn't as bad on 2nd and 3rd gen as 1st. It's also possible he's running sticks that sit on the edge of 1:1 ratio such that the single stick is o.k. at 1:1 where the dual sticks stress the memory controller just enough to drop it to 1:2 ratio. 3800 or 4000 mt/s might do it depending on cpu.
Not sure if increasing the resolution of the games being tested will affect the use of RAM very much, resolution increases are usually limited by the amount of VRAM your GPU has. I see that a lot of your 4k benchmarks are being limited by other factors other than RAM speed (most likely the GPU). If you used a dedicated memory benchmark tool, you might have more clear results on the differences under heavier memory specific workloads.
Nice video. If a game has to render a large world, then a dual or quad channel is best. It also depends the optimize of the game. There are too many variables.
I'm building my first pc and went for 4x4gb It was slightly cheaper than 2x8gb Only found this video after the fact, but I'm happy to know that it performs basically the same
But having 4x4 is limiting your upgrade options if you ever needed more capacity. Since once you upgrade them into the bigger one, you won't use your previous sticks anymore. 2x8 is the best bet. Still have the room for upgrades if you ever needed to ramp up the capacity to 32gb while still using the previous one.
@@hadifelani Wrong. This guy doesn't know what's he is talking about. 4 channels (sticks) is better for a workstation. When you run a single game the computer interprets it as 1 application. Plus, games don't need a lot of Ram🐏 just look at the ps5 (1stick-16gb) and xbox. Having 4 channels would be beneficial of you are running chrome, streaming software, trade broker software, discord, TH-cam news, background applications all at the same time. The CPU cores/threads will prioritize Ram channels for all those applications so they don't lag. Let's say you are running 6 applications on your computer. If you can have 2 sticks you will load 3 applications to each stick VS 4 sticks those 6 applications will distribute depending on the load. This allows for better lentacy speeds. If you are a content creator and run heavy software that needs a lot of Ram 🐏, then 4x16gb will do great, but if not then 4x8gb is the way to go. But if you only run p0&nhub 2x8gb is too much.
@@lalotz my guy, I'm solely talking about capacity. Nobody talks about channels. Everyone knows that almost all mainstream boards have dual channel, regardless of whether it has 2 or 4 of memory slots. You're completely missing the point 😪
Nice video! Heads up...if you haven't tried it yet, you can often use the suction of a vacuum cleaner to pop the dustcaps of your woofers back to normal ;-)
@@AncientGameplays I scored a 9812 on Superposition at 4k and it's posted with my real first name. Have you benchmarked yours there too? If you type 6700 in the search you will see mine
Thank you YT for showing me another AG video 4 days later. Interesting video, I didn't realize 16gb ddr4 were dual rank. Which I'm pleased to hear as I have 2x 16gb 3200 cl16 sticks. I was a little bit worried they be single rank even though I bought them in 2020. Got to say I'm happy that AMD Ryzen has given us more options like the 5600 non x, amazing how things can change with some competition. I can tell you are very much behind AMD, not saying you are a fan boy as you do point out where they fail. After buying Intel and having intel problems with my system an average person would stand no chance to fix themselves. I'm starting to wish I had paid the little bit extra for a 5600x over a 11400f.
@@AncientGameplays I installed cinebench to discover my CPU was throttling at about 70C. Was using hwmonitor and thought maybe it was stopping at exactly 70C but I was able overtime to push the CPU a little bit higher. Turned out my CPU was limited to 65w which wasn't clear from hwmonitor. I only discovered that by a YT video tipping me off about the program XTU. But then you need to know what settings to change and they don't label which string is pl1 and pl2. The bios was a maze too with even more settings. I have a b560m auris pro ax mb. Managed to work out that I can set pl1 to 125watt. I've got a hyper 212x cooler too. I don't know about pl2 I left it stock at 154w. At least it stopped throttling. I will say, it wasn't temperature throttling too at any point.
@@Jwalker76 Yeah, if your board is a bit lower end those CPUs will be limited in terms of power draw. MSI boards unlocked it almost automatically though
@@Richard-tj1yh Yeah I've just been annoyed about it throttling for the sake of the fact that it's not Intel high performance CPU and motherboard. The reality is it was going to cost me roughly an extra 50 USD just to get a 3600 at the time (this was pre 12th gen). Let alone the cost of a 5600x was more than an extra 100 dollars on top of the price of a 3600.
Хорошо продемонстрировал и тщательно разжевал. Хотелось бы продолжения. Для максимального раскрытия этой темы. А именно: протестировать 1х16GB, 2х16GB и 4х16GB. Тогда мы получим полную картину по двух ранговым модулям оперативной памяти. И какая в трех случаях будет разница производительности. - - Well demonstrated and thoroughly chewed. I would like to continue. For maximum disclosure of this topic. Namely: test 1x16GB, 2x16GB and 4x16GB. Then we will get a complete picture of the two-rank RAM modules. And what will be the difference in performance in three cases.
I would like to see if there is still a difference to 4xDualRanked Modules like the difference between 4 Sticks SingleRanked vs 4 Sticks Dualranked. Is there any benefit of 8 Ranks instead of 4?
Always wondered the same when I had to build my pc. I looked for 4x single rank 8gb but they were hard to find and expensive. I instead bought 4x 8gb dual rank. They couldn't run 3200 MHz as they were rated to. But when removing 2 sticks they could. I sold them bought 2x 16gb dual rank 3200 MHz and overclocked them to 3800 MHz I really want to know if I was went with 4x single rank if I have had a better experience.
No, there is no difference between 2x dual rank vs 4x dual rank, the memory controller cannot address more than 2 ranks per channel and the extra ranks cause more signal interference on the traces which result in requiring higher tertiary timings and/or lower clock speed to be stable. The optimal configuration is 1 dual rank memory module per channel.
My x470 mobo just crapped out on me, the A1 and A2 channels are dead. Now I have my dual channel sticks on B1 and B2, both running single channel. Not sure if I should replace my mobo or continue single. But after watching this video, I can see there's not much of a difference.
You mentioned leaving two slots free for a future upgrade, but is that a good idea? I'd always heard all the RAM in your system should be as identical as possible, down to a similar manufacturing date, to avoid any stability issues.
As long as rhe main timings and frequencies are the same it will be fine. In early days, maybe 10 years ago, that may have been a problem. Not anymore in 99% of cases
It really depends on your use case. It sure is a good plan at least in my case, that's what I did back in 2018. I also personally think that it's the safest bet in most cases. Buying 2x8 first, then in around 2020 I bought another exact same pair, ramping up the capacity to 32gb. But since I have been a modded Cities Skylines player for almost 4 years, at this point I'm just going to appreciate the most capacity I could get. I also plan to swap my 6600 XT for either 6700XT or 6800XT because I need that extra VRAM. Getting a 2x16 twice and selling my two pair or 2x8 is another plan of mine.
@@AncientGameplays I have 8 sticks of ddr3 ram from 10 years ago in my setup, 4 of them are the exact same corsair 4gb ram modules, and the rest are random 4gb and 8gb sticks I found around my house, overclocked to 1866mhz, and even in this worst case scenario I have no issues
I have a question. I already have 2x8gb stick .. how much performance am i going to loose if i add another 16gb or 8gb stick to make it 32 or 24gb in total ( Running R5 2600 and 1060 6gb)
I use 4x4gb no problem with that. maybe im poor. Achas k agora vou gastar uma pipa de massa só para ter 2x8gb" mesmo" . ò Fabio este video é bom para quem vai montar um novo set. agora para quem por exemplo tem como eu quatro slots de 4gb desde 2019 sem nenhum problema. nao faz sentido trocar so por trocar. Abraço
Viva, eu próprio falo que não faz sentido para quem já tem, até porque tinha de vender o kit anterior ou meter dinheiro ao lixo e não faz sentido. Mas imagine que agora querias colocar 32GB? Estás em desvantagem por não teres comprado 2x8GB em vez de 4x4Gb. E bem, eu não consideraria €60 uma "pipa de massa"...
@@AncientGameplays O que tu dizes acerca de trocar por mais ram "32gb". ai faz todo o sentido. mas 60€ se é muito ou pouco ai vais ter que concordar que já vai depender de cada carteira. Abraço amigo
Bro', i am using 4 x 4gb ddr3 in 2023 😅😅😅 I have i7 4790, Sapphire Nitro+ rx 480 8gb, and 4 x 4gb ram ... I am going to use this system until the day he explodes! 😅😅😅
One more down side of having multiple ram stick in a system are: Less inessive to upgrade Im still stuck on an x79 platform that i have build almost 10 years ago, with 8 stick(s) of 16gb ram
4 sticks dual channel win because ranks stack , it's not just about channels, every ram stick have either single rank or dual rank, 4 single rank ram sticks are as good as 2 dual rank sticks, ^i wanted to say but then reached the moment when you started talking about it so gj, not many people know why there's a performance increase but you do :) also dual rank 4gb and dual rank 8gb do exist too, 4gb ddr4 dual rank mostly exist in laptops (and i can even send a link to one example) while 8gb dual rank exist on desktop too, for example corsair vengeance have like 30 different versions, all look the same but version is different, dfferent die, some hynix some samsung, and one of these versions is a dual rank e-die 8gb sticks which actually perform better than B die single rank sticks AND are fully compatible with EVERY 1xxx and 2xxx ryzen with 3200mhz speed, while random die single rank sticks will fail on lots of ryzen 1xxx 2xxx cpus to run stable above 2667, 2800, or 2933 , not sure about B-die single rank as i don't have these anymore but heard that they work fine, except that they also cost 2 times more than dual rank e die.. (well that is if you can find one since these are super rare), ordering from the store is rng, it's annoying, can never know which die and rank you will get with 8gb sticks such as corsair vengeance as there's ~30 different versions of them with Exactly Same Part Name gj again btw and feel free to use the information which i provided as you please :) ah forgot, quad rank sticks do exist, never saw them but yeah they do exist
I understand that your channel is oriented on modern "hard" gamers, but... ... but maybe if You try some other tests - You will receive more interesting results. Try lower resolutions and lower quality settings. Try to test not only in games. Try to test games with some hard tusks that works in background. I think that results will be different. ;) P.S. I bought new computer for games three years ago, but mostly using it for work and sometimes play only in X-COM from 90th years and Heroes of M&M 3 and I interested in changing my computer for more powerful right now. So I very interested in results of tests of playing games with resourceful tasks that running in background. P.P.S. Thank You for your work.
Thanks, but as soon as you lower resolutions the situation is not realistic at all. Also, i do have a video with background apps tested. In this case 8 vs 16 vs 32gb
I had a 4x4 setup a while back, but I needed capacity more so I now have 4x8- same speed but the timing isn't as good, which is pretty regular when going with higher density. When I was doing a bunch of firestrike benchmarking the 4x4 got me up to the number 2 (maybe 3rd? not sure) CPU spot for a 4790k/5700xt combo and 73rd overall. I tested 3 different sets of memory mixed with different CPU clock speeds to get those results. I wish I had the time to do more of that stuff, it's fun to tinker! I suspect I could have gotten 1st if it hadn't been my primary PC, I just didn't want to take the chance of frying my rig. The 4x4 was definitely fastest, though the differences in real world stuff isn't noticeable.
thanks for the video. helped me decided that i won't bother buying another ram stick for my laptop. it came with a single 16gb stick and that has always bothered me. but it's already fast enough as it is, and another whole 16gb stick just to get dual channel (i don't need the extra memory tbh) is an expense i can easily avoid. I don't even use my laptop much anyway. i'd rather buy more ram for my desktop. or something useful for the laptop, like another ssd. 1tb is kinda painful to live with
Hi there! Nice video, but you should rerun those tests at least 3 times, with a good SSD (to avoid possible latency/bottleneck loading textures to RAM), with minimum graphics in all of the games (to get the GPU bottleneck lower as possible) and only then just CPU/RAM will be the determining factors, beign bound to those items as most as possible, with the uncapped FPS acting more realistic. Will be a potate-like video (game aside), but with a scientific point. Just a suggestion. Best regards.
This is why we pc builders never speak of buying extra RAM modules but speak about our total RAM combined...its cuz we all know,u only work in dual channel setups for gaming.
damn I am surprised at how little the difference is between the 3 different configurations! i could have stuck with just 2x16gb after all! but for the extra RGB that comes with 4x8 i guess i'm ok with it lol thanks for the video
My people, this is a RE-Release, and the video on march was set to non-visible, being only available to me and channel supporters.
Cheers!
Sadly this test will have to be redone once AMD release 5600 X3D
Nah, actually it doesn't, same thing for almost all scenarios. I should have tested FC6 now that I think of it though.
Still, I will retest it later with DDR5
@@AncientGameplays Hey, so, I use HWiNFO64 while gaming. Bear with me lol..
So, in HWiNFO64, you can see DRAM Read Bandwidth and DRAM Write Bandwidth. The jury is still out on exactly how accurate that is. It says Gbps, but it appears to actually be GBytes/s and also only showing one channel. At least, that's how it looks and what other people think after running Aida64 memory benchmark and watching HWiNFO64.
Okay, anyways... on my 3600 + RX480 8GB + 2x8GB single rank/dual channel, I rarely saw games make that average over "2 Gbps" DRAM Read Bandwidth. The write bandwidth was always significantly lower.
The game that stood out on that set up was Halo Infinite, it averaged 8 Gbps read and 2 Gbps write.
Now I have a 5900x + 6700xt + 2x16GB dual rank/dual channel. I can now use SAM. Now I'm always seeing much higher readings for DRAM read/write. I.. just found this interesting. Not sure if it has to do with SAM or just this set up along with the extra frames per second. Plus some games just have higher readings than others.
Do you or anyone else reading this ever pay attention to that? It might be interesting to note when comparing RAM configurations while gaming. Especially in games that tend to push it higher on average. Halo Infinite is probably the one that pushes it the highest that I've noticed. I think it's closer to 20 Gbps read average on my current set up in Halo.. but I wish I had taken notes before seeing this and commenting lol.
@@JustAGuy85 2 ranks per channel is the optimal configuration for ryzen memory controllers. Single rank per channel limits the memory controller and results in higher latency and reduced bandwidth.
I have 2 x 32gb of ram a total of 64gb of ram. I also have a i9 11900K processor
Wow, I saw a lot of videos comparing between ram channels but you actually went into the technical details behind it, Next level stuff right there 👏
Thank you 💪💪
He literally failed to mention the impact of ram speed/timings or mention which ram kits he used or what speeds he ran them at. All of those variables can affect fps
@@skylardatguy2906 its in the bottom left of the screen the entire video 3200 CL16
@@andrewpapadakis1307 I think it was the problem, almost of AM4 mobo support 3200/3000 "if only 2 ram installed", if 4 installed it was limited to 2666 CMIIW 🤔
Using four sticks of ram on a dual-channel system is slightly slower because it takes time for the memory controller to address the sticks separately. Each stick of ram on a given channel uses the same data lines, and the only way the sticks know which one is being talked to is that the memory controller addresses them independently. With only one stick per ram channel, this is unnecessary, and so things are very slightly faster. Of course, the results depend on more than just the ram configuration, hence the variable results you got.
It is a bit slower but works as dual rank, which mitigates that
Regardless whether 2 sticks or 2 ranks or 1 stick, the individual addressing is necessary (e.g. address line vs CS) -> no real difference here.
@@comfy_rwds 2 channel only.
Really ? th-cam.com/video/dhMYmEu8gks/w-d-xo.html
Four sticks should be on a quad-channel system. If these 4 sticks of ram are configured to a different channel system, it will have stability and compatibility issues . Four sticks of ram on a quad-channel system will run without any issues and it's faster than 1 stick and 2 stick of rams configured on single and dual channel system respectively but it requires an expensive motherboard. Because the more sticks of ram, the more memory bandwith you have and this leads to a lower cpu consumption by 10%-20%
The benchmarks clearly show that it doesn't really matter for games whether it's dual channel or single channel.
For loading times for games or programs, however, this can be more important.
The issue I have with these benchmarks is, they always take the same tripple A benchmark games that mostly only make sense regarding GPU.
After 10 games that show the GPU bottleneck in these games is severe, maybe one could consider looking for games that are specifically ram and/or CPU intensive.
I personally only have seen significant difference in ram usage in Anno 1800 where the game ate nearly 18 gigs of ram after I upgraded to 32gb, before that it was limited to ~12gb with 16gb ram iirc.
After watching a lot of hardware videos my observation is that generally ram has extremely minimalistic effect on performance unless you completely cheap out or buy the most expensive stuff.
A decent 32gb kit will be ~100€ and perform almost identical to a 200€ one and even a 60€ 16gb kit will hold up fine for most games.
On the loading times - mehh I doubt there will be any noticeable difference loading a game unless you literally run it as a ram disk, haven't found any good examples for ram size/speed and measurable loading time improvements for games outside that. I'd say direct storage will be the next big thing and hopefully can be applied on older games too some day.
I'm interested in how this would compare in gaming with integrated graphics since there is no GPU VRAM and the games would rely only on regular RAM.
In terms of integrated graphics the difference would be massive
@@AncientGameplays I was thinking about getting a ryzen 5 5600g without a dedicated GPU, 4x4 should be a better option than 2x8 right? I'm not going to get a dedicated GPU soon since I don't game.
@@leothehuman_9476 what are you using this pc for bro?
@@mike-jh6md the daily tasks i presume
@@notoriousbig3k you dont need 6 core cpu for daily tasks
Finally someone who explained this and showed actual results
Clearly 2x16GB or 4x8GB is the right answer.
Also the single channel vs dual channel memory matters more for APU.
Using an APU with single channel memory is like running on one leg.
Obviously due to the iGPU yeah
@@AncientGameplays
Two years ago we talked to you about your first music video. And I, like my colleague here, wrote that at APU these differences are greater and are in favor of the 4x4 single rank. I had also asked you to do a test with APU using the same method
Here, a large part of the test is limited by the video card, but at 1080p the difference is visible.
I'm already on 4x8 dual rank and the difference isn't much bigger than 4x4 but it's still there
4x8 is not good. 4 modules stress the imc too much. For high speed xmps or oc it's a no no. 2xAnything dual rank is the best.
@@psychoalert1823 If your system exposes the memory bottleneck, then the reduced OC/tuning potential matters.
More likely is that eliminating the single channel bottleneck exposes the next rate limiting element.
If you have a GPU that can outpace mainstream CPU, then memory optimization becomes relevant.
However if you have a mainstream GPU, then eliminating the single channel bottleneck has likely made your CPU/Memory fast enough to feed the GPU and the speed cannot be further enhanced.
I see 5600x is a lot less affected by ram than 1600x, when i bought 1600x i got faulty ram stick so i first tested it in single channel and there was actually huge gains from going to dual channel, it was more like 30-50% gains.
Nah, it was closer to 25% perf drop. Also a single 8gb ram stick would be fairly slower
thats because your 8G stick was SINGLE RANK using SINGLE CHANNEL ;)
Part of this was propably because when faulty stick was in, ram refused to run at 3200 so it was 2400 single channel vs 3200 dual channel.
God this is one of the best and informational youtube channels out there
Thank you for your kind words!
Fabio is the best
He is really smart and very informative... his benchmarks are really good. I do benchmarks myself and also watch other benchmarks and his findings is most inline with my own findings...
Good video. I'm currently running 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600 C16. Customer reviews says these are dual rank, but CPU-Z tells me they're actually single rank. Not that it matters to me, they run fine with XMP 2.0 and everything's smooth, so I'm happy.
Yeah, there are no 8GB sticks being dual rank (not that I know of). Enjoy your kit!
@@AncientGameplays Cpu-Z says that my G. Skill F4-2400C15-8GVR is dual. Each stick is 8GB.
@@AncientGameplays do you mean 8x2 cant be dual channel !!!
If your motherboard had 4 RAM slots. Maybe you put RAM at wrong slots, which disable dual channel feature
@@AncientGameplays I have dual rank 2x8GB DDR3 Kingston Hyperx Beast.
Well, I'm glad you decided to re-do this because I never saw the other one. So here's a like and a comment for the algorithm.
Thank you, TH-cam didn't really like that video don't know why
Thanks for this well done - informative video. Having a "Matched" ram kit is important for "Overclocking" ram- running at the XMP Profile. A matched ram kit has been tested to run at the rated XMP profile for that memory.
Yeap
This is a helpful video. I got my system in 2018 with 2x8GB TridentZ. I'm just gonna get the same pair to make it 4x8
I love this series you do with RAM scaling. Keep it up bro.
Thank you very much :D
Really cool that you didn't only compare it but made an entire educational video about it. Pretty nice content
Thanks, lay an eye on my video section
Thank You mentioning the thumbnail artist, He is my favourite artist!
i didn't know, but someone told me about him so I put his name there :D
Nice job with the explanations. This actually answered a lot of questions which I had. Thank you!
I just built a gaming PC using a Xeon with triple channel ram. 24 gb @ 6 x 4 gb. Pretty good results compared with typical dual channel.
2 x 16 is my preference. 16 gb is enough for most games especially on 1080p but why limit yourself in some games like Doom for example (not best example but 😆) & heavy modding in games. Also maybe you'd like to stream and record etc in future so for me 32 gb makes most sense and gives plenty of headroom. Maybe an extra $100 but worth it in my opinion.
You could give many examples, but doom?
then you should upgrade your gpu instead. VRAM >>>> RAM
you live in a different world my friend, 8 GB should be enough for most games unless you wanna play in dx 12 (games in dx12 mode eat all of my ram) i do have 4 slots so i could upgrade sometime soon as 8 GB is NOT enough for heavily modded gaming
@@AncientGameplays I'm an indie unity dev. I use to use up to 48-52GB when building my game or testing it in several instances at the same time.
@@Fogolol i am not sure i have played a modern game in years that suggest less then 16 for the minimum specs and windows itself probably doesn't like it either... will always do 32gb min in a build now days
With AM4 Ryzen CPUs, they used a 256bit memory interface that was split into two 128bit channels and each channel supporting two 64bit ranks.
From what I briefly learned when choosing my memory configuration, depending on what motherboard (specifically the memory tracer layout) is used and what you wanted to do with your memory determined what the best configuration of memory you should have. From what I remember, Parallel/T-topology boards tracers split before reaching the pins in the memory slots which allows each slot to be equal distances from the memory controller on the CPU, allowing for more stable system when using all of the available memory slots for more memory capacity. Series/daisy chained boards on the other hand are wired directly to one memory slot which then is sequentially linked to the next DIMM slot, essentially queuing the second DIMM slot behind the first (hence daisy chained), I don't know if this has any benefits regarding frequency performance, but it must do something otherwise all motherboards would be T-topology.
Depending on what you want to do, the memory configuration should look a little something like this:
Overclock for world records = 1 x Single Rank memory module (memory tracer layout probably not important with so few ranks).
Overclocking = Daisy chained and use 2 x Single Rank memory modules (slightly less performance than using four ranks, more than made up for with overclocking though).
Non-overclocking your memory = Daisy chained and use 2 x Dual Rank memory modules.
Non-overclocking your memory + option to increase memory capacity at later date = T-topology motherboard with 2 x Single Rank memory modules (two more at later date brings rank count up to four, increasing performance).
Max memory capacity = T-topology and use 4 x Dual Rank memory modules (eight ranks equals lower memory speed to improve stability, T-topology layout negates some of the stability issues with four dual rank DIMMs).
With all that said, we're moving on to DDR5 memory which has shook things up with how memory channels and ranks are laid out and I've not looked into as I have no intention of replacing my system any time soon. Not to mention there is also the X3D variants of CPUs which make high speed memory less important.
Great work in this video the most detailed video I've seen
Thanks!
Wow the algorithm put me on to you and I can say this was crazy interesting, keep up the banging content
Thank you, it seems the algorithm messed with me in the last video, but is now helping with this one! Great!
This TH-camr is much more detail than linus I'm really comfortable with his teaching
Thank you
this is an impressively well made video
Thanks, made the 2024 version a few weeks ago
My conclusion is, get whichever is CHEAPER, they seems have no difference to me. in 1080p, the fps is too high to notice that 2 or 3 fps difference, and in 4k everything is bottlenecked by the GPU.
If there is no price difference, get the 16gb one for future update.
Dando a volta no algoritmo requentando conteúdo. Que Tuga malandro.
É a primeira vez (e provavelmente a última) que faço isto em mais de 5 anos de canal, e bem, só as hotas que gastei a melhorar este video dava para ter feito um de raiz. A única coisa aproveitada aqui foi de facto os dados, de resto foi tudo novo
Keep at it man. With a little better video editing (less repeating same things) you should be an awesome tech channel to follow!
Thank you, what do you think was redundant exactly?
Such a simple premise for a video, but something that is kinda glossed over so often. Thanks for the content.
Great video, im glad others can learn something from all this.
Thank you for being here as well 💪💪
G Skill Trident Z Neo RGB cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb single rank sticks dual channel overclocked to cl14 3800mhz with the timings tightened to the fullest fully stable lead to major increase in FPS performance.
For some reason 1 8gb stick works better than 2x4gb on my low end pc.
Thanks for this video
That impossible if they are at the same frequency and timings. I believe your 2x4gb config isnt stable
@@AncientGameplays Or has lousy 2ndary/tertiary timings, especially on AMD, though this isn't as bad on 2nd and 3rd gen as 1st. It's also possible he's running sticks that sit on the edge of 1:1 ratio such that the single stick is o.k. at 1:1 where the dual sticks stress the memory controller just enough to drop it to 1:2 ratio. 3800 or 4000 mt/s might do it depending on cpu.
Okay, Morbius!! Thanks for the info!! Great video!!
Thanks for the straight to the point and clean info!
Thank you for watching! Um abraço
Love the accent bro. Also you make the video edits easy to read for us. Thank you.
Thank you as well
Not sure if increasing the resolution of the games being tested will affect the use of RAM very much, resolution increases are usually limited by the amount of VRAM your GPU has. I see that a lot of your 4k benchmarks are being limited by other factors other than RAM speed (most likely the GPU).
If you used a dedicated memory benchmark tool, you might have more clear results on the differences under heavier memory specific workloads.
It wont, it will affect VRAM, but lower and higher fps need more bandwidth, hence the several resolutions
Killin it with these. Great video!!! 👌👌
Thank you! Just released a new one :D
Nice video. If a game has to render a large world, then a dual or quad channel is best. It also depends the optimize of the game. There are too many variables.
This is the best video in explaining about ram performance!!!
Well, time to put 4x32gb
Finally something i really looking for. Thanks Ancient Gameplays 🙌
Thank you as well
otimo video mano,tava na duvida e agora decidi fazer o dual channel mesmo
Obrigado!
looks like dual is the way to go for most stuff, single GPU, Dual Lane RAM along with a decent CPU. Good post and keep em comin
I'm building my first pc and went for 4x4gb
It was slightly cheaper than 2x8gb
Only found this video after the fact, but I'm happy to know that it performs basically the same
But having 4x4 is limiting your upgrade options if you ever needed more capacity. Since once you upgrade them into the bigger one, you won't use your previous sticks anymore.
2x8 is the best bet. Still have the room for upgrades if you ever needed to ramp up the capacity to 32gb while still using the previous one.
@@hadifelani
Wrong. This guy doesn't know what's he is talking about.
4 channels (sticks) is better for a workstation.
When you run a single game the computer interprets it as 1 application. Plus, games don't need a lot of Ram🐏 just look at the ps5 (1stick-16gb) and xbox.
Having 4 channels would be beneficial of you are running chrome, streaming software, trade broker software, discord, TH-cam news, background applications all at the same time.
The CPU cores/threads will prioritize Ram channels for all those applications so they don't lag.
Let's say you are running 6 applications on your computer.
If you can have 2 sticks you will load 3 applications to each stick VS 4 sticks those 6 applications will distribute depending on the load. This allows for better lentacy speeds.
If you are a content creator and run heavy software that needs a lot of Ram 🐏, then 4x16gb will do great, but if not then 4x8gb is the way to go.
But if you only run p0&nhub 2x8gb is too much.
@@lalotz my guy, I'm solely talking about capacity. Nobody talks about channels.
Everyone knows that almost all mainstream boards have dual channel, regardless of whether it has 2 or 4 of memory slots.
You're completely missing the point 😪
@@hadifelani my lady, you know what it was, i came from a different video which explains my comment.
Any who now you know.
It's not that important but it does have an impact, interesting, excellent video!
you should watch the most recent DDR5 I made
Here I am using 8x 4gb at 2400mhz gotta love these old server boards
If that's DDR3, awesome, if DDR4 not really xD
@@AncientGameplays it's ddr4 but hey at least it's ecc I'll change to 8gb sticks eventually
@@NatInTheHat49 I would just overclock them, even if I had to loosen the timings a bit
I'm loving the sound effects
Haha
Nice video!
Heads up...if you haven't tried it yet, you can often use the suction of a vacuum cleaner to pop the dustcaps of your woofers back to normal ;-)
Always saying i will do it sooner or later, bjt i never do haha
I can confirm your tip works, did it a year ago on som old Dynaudio speakers my kid had tortured.
Good as new nao with a vacuum :)
@@YudaHnK Dynaudio…excellent choice
hmm, maybe I should do a benchmark video of my twin Xeons with 8 channels total and 1TB Ram.
your 5600x build is almost identical to one of my computers that I built, the only difference being is that i have a 6700xt rather than 6800xt
I have the non-XT 6800 btw :D
@@AncientGameplays I scored a 9812 on Superposition at 4k and it's posted with my real first name. Have you benchmarked yours there too? If you type 6700 in the search you will see mine
@@mrjangles1263 I didn't since I am not much of synthetic benchmarks haha
good visual and explanation, say no more - Fabio
Thank you 💪💪
Thank you YT for showing me another AG video 4 days later. Interesting video, I didn't realize 16gb ddr4 were dual rank. Which I'm pleased to hear as I have 2x 16gb 3200 cl16 sticks. I was a little bit worried they be single rank even though I bought them in 2020. Got to say I'm happy that AMD Ryzen has given us more options like the 5600 non x, amazing how things can change with some competition. I can tell you are very much behind AMD, not saying you are a fan boy as you do point out where they fail. After buying Intel and having intel problems with my system an average person would stand no chance to fix themselves. I'm starting to wish I had paid the little bit extra for a 5600x over a 11400f.
Humm, what problems do you have? I have several Intel CPUs as well, 10100F, 10400F, 11400F, 12600K
@@AncientGameplays I installed cinebench to discover my CPU was throttling at about 70C. Was using hwmonitor and thought maybe it was stopping at exactly 70C but I was able overtime to push the CPU a little bit higher. Turned out my CPU was limited to 65w which wasn't clear from hwmonitor. I only discovered that by a YT video tipping me off about the program XTU. But then you need to know what settings to change and they don't label which string is pl1 and pl2. The bios was a maze too with even more settings. I have a b560m auris pro ax mb. Managed to work out that I can set pl1 to 125watt. I've got a hyper 212x cooler too. I don't know about pl2 I left it stock at 154w. At least it stopped throttling. I will say, it wasn't temperature throttling too at any point.
@@Jwalker76 Yeah, if your board is a bit lower end those CPUs will be limited in terms of power draw. MSI boards unlocked it almost automatically though
It's a motherboard problem not an intel problem 😅
@@Richard-tj1yh Yeah I've just been annoyed about it throttling for the sake of the fact that it's not Intel high performance CPU and motherboard. The reality is it was going to cost me roughly an extra 50 USD just to get a 3600 at the time (this was pre 12th gen). Let alone the cost of a 5600x was more than an extra 100 dollars on top of the price of a 3600.
A new happy subscriber , great content
Thanks 💪
2x8gb better
Yeah but im just here because i just wanna see the difference
Nah 2x 16 gb better
Damn bro, what kind of game need to use 32 gb?@@arkapravaroy7284
He means that 2x8 is better than 1x16 or 4x4 and yeah he is right dual channel is the best option @@arkapravaroy7284
nah thats overkill@@arkapravaroy7284
I love the amount of info you showed in this vid. Cheers!
Thank you, you may like some of my other videos as well 💪💪
Хорошо продемонстрировал и тщательно разжевал.
Хотелось бы продолжения. Для максимального раскрытия этой темы. А именно: протестировать 1х16GB, 2х16GB и 4х16GB. Тогда мы получим полную картину по двух ранговым модулям оперативной памяти. И какая в трех случаях будет разница производительности.
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Well demonstrated and thoroughly chewed.
I would like to continue. For maximum disclosure of this topic. Namely: test 1x16GB, 2x16GB and 4x16GB. Then we will get a complete picture of the two-rank RAM modules. And what will be the difference in performance in three cases.
Тоже интересно стало
почему в ксго дуал и квад равны?
@@Qwertoni Я больше чем уверен, у разработчиков есть ответ. И у тех, кто разбирается в таких технических тонкостях
Exactly what I was looking for..Thanks.
Great, thanks!
I would like to see if there is still a difference to 4xDualRanked Modules like the difference between 4 Sticks SingleRanked vs 4 Sticks Dualranked. Is there any benefit of 8 Ranks instead of 4?
Sincerely i belive there is, but don't know as I never tested
Maybe that’s an idea for an additional video on the topic ;)
This would be a great one
Always wondered the same when I had to build my pc. I looked for 4x single rank 8gb but they were hard to find and expensive.
I instead bought 4x 8gb dual rank. They couldn't run 3200 MHz as they were rated to. But when removing 2 sticks they could.
I sold them bought 2x 16gb dual rank 3200 MHz and overclocked them to 3800 MHz
I really want to know if I was went with 4x single rank if I have had a better experience.
No, there is no difference between 2x dual rank vs 4x dual rank, the memory controller cannot address more than 2 ranks per channel and the extra ranks cause more signal interference on the traces which result in requiring higher tertiary timings and/or lower clock speed to be stable. The optimal configuration is 1 dual rank memory module per channel.
Very informative video about ram configuration channels and performance difference.
Thanks!
Very interesting video thank you. I would be interested in a similar test with DDR5, scaled up to 32GB, so 1X 32GB vs 2X 16GB vs 4x 8GB DDR5.
Yeap, as soon as I get my ZEN4 and RDNA3 build :D
I heard that somehow ddr5 will run dual channel on 1 stick 🤔
@@AncientGameplays looking forward to it. Thank you! :)
My x470 mobo just crapped out on me, the A1 and A2 channels are dead. Now I have my dual channel sticks on B1 and B2, both running single channel. Not sure if I should replace my mobo or continue single. But after watching this video, I can see there's not much of a difference.
Did not know about the 16GB memory sticks. Thanks for pointing this out.
Thanks for watching
You mentioned leaving two slots free for a future upgrade, but is that a good idea? I'd always heard all the RAM in your system should be as identical as possible, down to a similar manufacturing date, to avoid any stability issues.
As long as rhe main timings and frequencies are the same it will be fine. In early days, maybe 10 years ago, that may have been a problem. Not anymore in 99% of cases
It really depends on your use case. It sure is a good plan at least in my case, that's what I did back in 2018. I also personally think that it's the safest bet in most cases.
Buying 2x8 first, then in around 2020 I bought another exact same pair, ramping up the capacity to 32gb.
But since I have been a modded Cities Skylines player for almost 4 years, at this point I'm just going to appreciate the most capacity I could get. I also plan to swap my 6600 XT for either 6700XT or 6800XT because I need that extra VRAM.
Getting a 2x16 twice and selling my two pair or 2x8 is another plan of mine.
@@AncientGameplays I have 8 sticks of ddr3 ram from 10 years ago in my setup, 4 of them are the exact same corsair 4gb ram modules, and the rest are random 4gb and 8gb sticks I found around my house, overclocked to 1866mhz, and even in this worst case scenario I have no issues
@@Pegasvs interesting
I have a question.
I already have 2x8gb stick .. how much performance am i going to loose if i add another 16gb or 8gb stick to make it 32 or 24gb in total
( Running R5 2600 and 1060 6gb)
You can add another one, you'll be fine 💪
1x16 vs 2x16 vs 4x16... curious to see how that effects 1% lows
Yup if u have pick of the choices. Still 16gb 2x win here
Great video. I actually learned a thing or two. Thanks
Great to know! Big hug
It doesn't seem to matter significantly. Perhaps memory controllers now days are alot better than in the past.
his 1x16 is dual rank, single rank will do worse
Cpus are a lot better yeah
True, bjt not by much
Nice explanation... Keep it up Fabio 👍
Thanks 💪💪
I use 4x4gb no problem with that. maybe im poor. Achas k agora vou gastar uma pipa de massa só para ter 2x8gb" mesmo" . ò Fabio este video é bom para quem vai montar um novo set. agora para quem por exemplo tem como eu quatro slots de 4gb desde 2019 sem nenhum problema. nao faz sentido trocar so por trocar.
Abraço
Viva, eu próprio falo que não faz sentido para quem já tem, até porque tinha de vender o kit anterior ou meter dinheiro ao lixo e não faz sentido. Mas imagine que agora querias colocar 32GB? Estás em desvantagem por não teres comprado 2x8GB em vez de 4x4Gb. E bem, eu não consideraria €60 uma "pipa de massa"...
@@AncientGameplays O que tu dizes acerca de trocar por mais ram "32gb". ai faz todo o sentido. mas 60€ se é muito ou pouco ai vais ter que concordar que já vai depender de cada carteira. Abraço amigo
@@pedrobastos7383 Concordo perfeitamente, mas mesmo falando em relação ao ordenado mínimo é menos de 10%. Eu penso sempre por aí
what a great and through explanation. Great vid
2x8gb is great if u want to upgrade to 32gb just buy 2 more
Excellent informative VDO!
Hello BROOOOOOO nice video mate!!!!!!can you test quad channel?on extreme sockets x299 or x399 amd!!! thanks mate
I could, If I had some haha
I have x99 system and there are plenty of videos out there with the quad channel benefit. In short it destroys zen3
@@daddyalpha2648 my previous socket is X99 with 6950X and ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTREME now i have the ASUS RAMPAGE VI EXTREME im on X299
@@PixelByte and is there a difference? How much % is it better?
@@daddyalpha2648 same fps on games but on ram more bandwith and more read write on aida 64
congrats on 100K
Almost there haha
Bro', i am using 4 x 4gb ddr3 in 2023 😅😅😅 I have i7 4790, Sapphire Nitro+ rx 480 8gb, and 4 x 4gb ram ... I am going to use this system until the day he explodes! 😅😅😅
Back in 2015 I built my system with an 8x8 kit of Dominator sticks... Just because it looks cool.
Is this Jesus Gaming?😂👍
One more down side of having multiple ram stick in a system are: Less inessive to upgrade
Im still stuck on an x79 platform that i have build almost 10 years ago, with 8 stick(s) of 16gb ram
Depends on the cases but yes
Very on point with the conclusion 👌
Thank you :D
Today i learn more. Thank you mr. Fabio
Thank YOU for watching. Appreciate if you can share it
In the end low end systems benefit the most from dual channel and higher end systems don't really gain anything and they wont need it anyway.
4 sticks dual channel win because ranks stack , it's not just about channels, every ram stick have either single rank or dual rank, 4 single rank ram sticks are as good as 2 dual rank sticks,
^i wanted to say but then reached the moment when you started talking about it so gj, not many people know why there's a performance increase but you do :)
also dual rank 4gb and dual rank 8gb do exist too, 4gb ddr4 dual rank mostly exist in laptops (and i can even send a link to one example) while 8gb dual rank exist on desktop too, for example corsair vengeance have like 30 different versions, all look the same but version is different, dfferent die, some hynix some samsung, and one of these versions is a dual rank e-die 8gb sticks which actually perform better than B die single rank sticks AND are fully compatible with EVERY 1xxx and 2xxx ryzen with 3200mhz speed, while random die single rank sticks will fail on lots of ryzen 1xxx 2xxx cpus to run stable above 2667, 2800, or 2933 , not sure about B-die single rank as i don't have these anymore but heard that they work fine, except that they also cost 2 times more than dual rank e die.. (well that is if you can find one since these are super rare), ordering from the store is rng, it's annoying, can never know which die and rank you will get with 8gb sticks such as corsair vengeance as there's ~30 different versions of them with Exactly Same Part Name
gj again btw and feel free to use the information which i provided as you please :)
ah forgot, quad rank sticks do exist, never saw them but yeah they do exist
very well explained. kudos to you brother
I understand that your channel is oriented on modern "hard" gamers, but...
... but maybe if You try some other tests - You will receive more interesting results.
Try lower resolutions and lower quality settings.
Try to test not only in games.
Try to test games with some hard tusks that works in background.
I think that results will be different. ;)
P.S. I bought new computer for games three years ago, but mostly using it for work and sometimes play only in X-COM from 90th years and Heroes of M&M 3 and I interested in changing my computer for more powerful right now. So I very interested in results of tests of playing games with resourceful tasks that running in background.
P.P.S. Thank You for your work.
Thanks, but as soon as you lower resolutions the situation is not realistic at all. Also, i do have a video with background apps tested. In this case 8 vs 16 vs 32gb
I see a slight gap in-between the rows of your benchmark results, I like it. I think I suggested it earlier this week even...
Yeap, I completely redesigned the charts due to that, and it looks way better :D
Thanks
Long time for quad channel to go mainstream!
I was hoping for that to become true with zen4, but it doesn't seem like it...
I had a 4x4 setup a while back, but I needed capacity more so I now have 4x8- same speed but the timing isn't as good, which is pretty regular when going with higher density. When I was doing a bunch of firestrike benchmarking the 4x4 got me up to the number 2 (maybe 3rd? not sure) CPU spot for a 4790k/5700xt combo and 73rd overall. I tested 3 different sets of memory mixed with different CPU clock speeds to get those results. I wish I had the time to do more of that stuff, it's fun to tinker! I suspect I could have gotten 1st if it hadn't been my primary PC, I just didn't want to take the chance of frying my rig. The 4x4 was definitely fastest, though the differences in real world stuff isn't noticeable.
nice video! thanks for the detailed info, now I'm seriously considering another 16gb stick
You should indeed
i like on csgo part when laughing hahahaha funny, thanks man. awesome video as always! love from indonesia
thanks for the video. helped me decided that i won't bother buying another ram stick for my laptop. it came with a single 16gb stick and that has always bothered me.
but it's already fast enough as it is, and another whole 16gb stick just to get dual channel (i don't need the extra memory tbh) is an expense i can easily avoid. I don't even use my laptop much anyway. i'd rather buy more ram for my desktop. or something useful for the laptop, like another ssd. 1tb is kinda painful to live with
On latops things are different due to shared video memory. Its almost mandatory to have 16gb
@@AncientGameplays well it has an rtx 2070 which obviously has its own dedicated memory pool, so the gpu isn't really a factor.
@@GraveUypo Yes, but even so, the laptops CPU are way less powerful, being more affected by RAM configurations
scientist jesus showing us how to dual chanel. thanks for recomendation youtube! :)
Thanks for watching
Hi there! Nice video, but you should rerun those tests at least 3 times, with a good SSD (to avoid possible latency/bottleneck loading textures to RAM), with minimum graphics in all of the games (to get the GPU bottleneck lower as possible) and only then just CPU/RAM will be the determining factors, beign bound to those items as most as possible, with the uncapped FPS acting more realistic. Will be a potate-like video (game aside), but with a scientific point. Just a suggestion. Best regards.
This is why we pc builders never speak of buying extra RAM modules but speak about our total RAM combined...its cuz we all know,u only work in dual channel setups for gaming.
Thx for the Video, it helped me at a big decision
Great to know
Nice video and explanations!
What's your native language? Italian, Spanish or Portuguese?
Thanks portuguese
The ideal would be to compare 1x16 -2x16 -4x16
2 slots always the most consistent imo. But this shows you really you can get away with any variation lol.
Yeap, even more with nowadays CPUs
i already know everything about RAMs and how they work. I just came here for the thumbnail sauce
GJ man, so people talk bollocks about quad Channel, but not you!
4 modules doesn't always mean quad Channel
damn I am surprised at how little the difference is between the 3 different configurations! i could have stuck with just 2x16gb after all! but for the extra RGB that comes with 4x8 i guess i'm ok with it lol thanks for the video
Great comparison
Thank you!