The Ford Focus ST Is a Great Bargain Hot Hatchback
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Today I'm reviewing the Ford Focus ST, which is a great bargain hot hatchback. I'll show you the quirks and features of the Focus ST, then I'll show you what it's like to drive -- and I'll review the Focus ST to explain why it's such a great bargain hot hatchback.
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FINALLY! My brother has a Fiesta ST and bragged to me, a focus ST owner, that his car had a Doug video and mine doesn’t. Thank you Doug for fixing that, you have made my day!
You can also say yours ranked higher than the Fiesta
You can say that it scored higher unfortunately doug (as much as I love his vids and his funny , enthusiastic demeanor) he's among the smallest of minorities in auto journalists that chose a FoST over a FiST, the majority enjoyed the Fiesta ST more and as the everyday driver guys said Fiesta finished 6th in driver's car of the year and the biggest endorsement was auto journalists who get to drive alot of cool cars for free someblong term used their own $ to buy a Fiesta ST ....however I must say my 1st choice was a Focus ST, but am glad I ended up with a new Fiesta ST.
I loved my regular fiesta but the lack of a up and down shift button is why I got rid of it. I want a transmission I can lock in gear and control down and up shifting. That's all the Powershift transmission was missing to make it really fun to rally and beat on in the back country logging roads and on pavement. That was the one thing it really needed.
@@stevenplaskett7728 my wife bought a red fiesta se with the power shift....surprisingly the non ST felt quick and handled very well but the powershift was crazy. If in sport mode it shifted better (not great) but in auto there were times it didn't want to shift when trying to cross through multiple traffic lanes on a turn (not fun or confidence inspiring )or would shift too early and leave a lack of power. The Fiesta ST with the strictly manual and 75hp 100ish torque gain over the SE made for the most fun I've ever had when it comes too cars. The 4k I saved between Focus ST price went to a custom exhaust, blow off adapter, Fiesta ST 200 airbox w cold air feed, upgraded intake, crossover pipe , turbo inlet, downpipe, short shift adapter, short shifter, various interior and exterior mostly cosmetic upgrades cobb accessport various tunes from different tuners. Now all of that can be done to the focus ST as well but my mods all together still didn't add up too the difference in price. Now don't get get wrong different dealers with different deals can bring the price much closer but what moat auto journalists have said is the Focus ST feels like a muscle car the Fiesta ST feels like a sports car and as weird as it sounds they say the Fiesta feel faster though its not. Most chose the Fiesta ST because it was more fun however it comes down to what you need it for .....Focus slightly nicer interior, more room more cargo space handles well more power than Fiesta....Fiesta way better turn radius , handles better, feels faster, overall more fun. So if it's your only car and you need the room Focis all the way, if straight line speed is all that matter Focus (though Fiesta feels faster and only reason it's slower 0-60 is not the power difference but that it requires an additional shift to 3rd gear to hit 60) if back roads and twisties then Fiesta if overall fun then Fiesta as well. As everyone but Doug and a very small minority of auto journalists agree. However you can't go wrong with either.
@@stevendobbs3568 I drove both (As well as the GTi, Type R, Megan RS, Focus RS) before buying my Golf R. The Fiesta is a *lot* better than the Focus, less torque steer, more responsive, more connected, more fun. The ST has the power advantage sure, but I'd take the chuckability of the Fiesta over the power of the Focus, especially since the Focus only has an open diff.
The wheels on this Focus ST are similar to the wheels on the Lamborghini Gallardo
lol ur right
Does the 🙄 in your opinion mean that ford wants to look cool by taking lambo rims
or that the gallardo wheels look so cheap that even a ford focus has them?
hahahaha damn right
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I was thinking the same 😁
As an owner of a 2018 Focus, I can tell you that all the pockets by the rear doors are for your children to fill with lego and empty juice boxes.
And you can never clean them out, you have to sell the car.
@@truantray 😂
YES! I have a 2013, and that’s all that’s ever sat in those little pockets.
Can confirm
I have takis sitting in mine. Unopened takis
The best thing about this little rocket is ... they basically go unnoticed by cops. It simply looks like every other rental Focus on the road. Thanks for the video.
Can confirm. I've driving mine 127,000 miles and I've only been pulled over ONCE. Last summer on I-87 approaching the town of Ausable. I'm talking the absolute middle of fucking know where. 80 in a 65. Oopsie.
Unless your a teen who puts a splitter and huge chassis mount wing on back and slam it on the ground lol
@@tim850csi you're a big boy now....time to get a big boy car ☺️
139k miles on mine, owned since new - never been pulled over
@@tim850csi are they reliable at that stuff of mileage?
Doug is the soul of a six-year-old unwrapping a PS5 Christmas morning, only every day is Christmas and everything he touches is a PS5.
Tay! Awesome seeing you here, hope you're doing well!!!
Mr chocolate rain how are you
Side note: I hope the PS5 gets some better games than the same old first party stuff they had on PS4. Bloodborne and FF7R were outliers in a sea of dour third person action games that were still copying the basic gameplay mechanics of RE4. I think the Series X will be the better console for that Retroarch support, while the Switch has nothing but killer title after killer title.
@@12ealDealOfficial Just get DevilMayCry 5. Vergil special edition. You will NOT be disappointed
Chocolate Rain!!
"It's great! 6 out of 10"
"It's great! 6 out of 10"
"It's great! 6 out of 10"
Deadass kills me errtime😭
I know what was with that
6/10 is good. It's better than average.
I wonder if the objective of doug with this score thing, is to show how useless giving a mark to a car is. I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
But, when I see Doug enjoying that much a car for all its pros, and see the low score, I always think, what was the point? This car seems great for what it is, and the score just make it look insipid. Maybe there is something behind that. Or not...I don't know actually.
The problem is that this car is on the same performance scale as a Lamborghini Aventador SVJ, and the same practicality scale as a Sprinter Van, so an all-rounder like a Focus ST kind of drowns in its own advantages, its above average at everything, but not a supercar or a cargo van.
Doug on Sunday nights: “Thisss, is Sunday night dinner. It is a 2021 dish of Spaghetti and meatballs, with garlic bread on the side. We will chew it, swallow it, then we are going to review it.”
@@deathsc0uthd825 💀💀💀💀
‘And im gonna poop it out and show you its quirks and features’
@@deathsc0uthd825 lmfao
And give it a Doug Score
No, it's "This is SSspaghetti, and today we're going to review it. We're going to go over its quirks and featurs, take it for what is, a meal, eat it, let it digest, come out the exhaust, then give it a doug score"
> Doug can't stop talking about how extremely good the handling is
> Handling: 6/10
hahaha so true
Compared to more precise sport cars, seems fair
I think he meant extremely good for hot hatchbacks
It's funny because he only gives like 9 and 10 to hyper cars lol, so a 6 is actually pretty good for an everyday car
Yeah I mean regular ass SUVs which are by no means loose still get like a 3-4. Doug’s scale is absolute so no normal car should really get above a 5 (ST being closer to true sport)
2016 Focus ST owner. If the 2013 model is at all similar, there are 2 relatively cheap and easy things you can do to vastly improve the driving experience in these cars. Doug mentioned the "vagueness" of the shifter, I fixed that issue by swapping out the rubbery shifter cable bushings with aluminum ones in less than an hour, all the vagueness is gone. The position of the gas pedal is also not ideal (way WAY behind the brake, no idea why it's placed so awkwardly), but I fixed this with a spacer that brings the pedal closer to the driver's seat. Less than $100 and less than 2 hours and the basic driving experience vastly improved!
does the 2016 ST have android auto
FWIW, the throttle placement feels awesome when doing threshold heel-toe on a race track. Awkward as hell to heel-toe in normal driving though.
And completely agree on the shifter bushings. I love the shifter feel after that and a short shift plate.
@@StogStudioFLI believe they started that in 2017. I own a 2017 and it has android auto along with apple carplay.
Regardless of the car, one thing will always stay the same: two t-shirts.
And. “THIS”
Also, “favorite” always comes with two index fingers. Edit: make that every 3rd word.
They don't call him 'Ole Dougie Two Shirts for nothing!
😂😂😂
That's the most un practical set up.
Dougs an actual genius. Instead of paying for rentals like he would when he used turo, he can now just borrow the cars being sold on Cars and Bids to review, free. And where is CNC??
I think he should be a true gentleman and go back to cnc again, most of his fortune comes from those reviews and now he's not sponsoring them anymore
@@rinodb83 he doesn't owe CNC anything. They gave him cars to review for a day or two, and they got a ton of free publicity.
No way Turo charged Doug for all that marketing.
Product placement.
I think the lack of videos at CNC is a result of COVID. I could be wrong, but it’s quite plausible.
Doug: This little piece of plastic that you'll never see doesn't EXACTLY match the piece next to it.
Literally everyone else: Thank you Ford for putting the money in the powertrain and suspension instead of e-brake trim pieces.
If only they did that with the base Focus model, maybe Ford would still be making cars instead of trucks for fat people.
lmfao yes thank you ford for giving us a more walmart bargain bin interior.
Ford is on it’s A game when it comes to performance models of its production vehicles. I love my focus ST.
My 17 st2 is miles ahead of a better interior. Ford made the big jump in quality 15+ for everything.
I've driven my ST for 100,000 miles and never even noticed the e-brake trim. I was astonished he spent so much time talking about it.
As someone who owned a 2015 ST, it’s really interesting to see how different the interiors were between the 2013-2014 and the 2015+
Right? I’m a ‘15 owner too. I knew I had to get a 15+ for the facelift as the exterior is more clean, but I never really realized how different the interiors of the pre ones are.
Man just the difference between the st1&2 and st3 packages were major. My local dealership had an st2 that i test drove but I didn't want the tangerine scream and wanted the upgraded stereo and hid projectors and the nav so they had the st3 drive up from a nearby dealership... And i really was let down by the center console. The st1&2 had more console storage and better placement of the cupholders. The st3 has nowhere for a phone or ANYTHING to go other than the cupholders.
The facelift was nice but they ruined the lower rear bumper cover IMO
"You can't see the fuel flap"
Yeah it's that square looking thing right there
I know, he made it seem like it was invisible..
Stands out like a turd in a punchbowl
Ikr?
Okay, but still, he has a point in that Ford did a good job in making it subtle and matching with the panel gaps of the car. Maybe they should have made it completely symmetrical by putting an identical square piece on the other side.
@@DeliciousHotShmoze If they did put a square piece on the other side, then people will think it's a fuel door and complain that the identical piece doesn't open.
People don't like fake pieces.
There was slightly more crack in his coffee today.
You should see his Focus RS video
Being happy for an awesome car equals being on crack? 🤦♂️
@@bear2507 you know somethimes somthing IS A JOKE and / or a MEME . SO ITS NOT MEANT LITERAL
@@bear2507 no , your comment means being on crack....
Although probably not the abominable narcotic that you mention, I also was wondering whether there may be more emphasis to the gestures in certain sections of these latest videos or whether it might be a recording or a playback issue. I mention this not in order to negate excitement but because there seems to be something artificial, not to say disingenuous about it.
It still remember Jeremy Clarkson saying ST stands for "sanitary towel" while reviewing a Ford Focus 😂
I think he also said something about waiting for the diesel 'STD' version (obviously standing for 'sexually transmitted disease').
yeah, the 2.5 inline 5 ST, the best one
LMAO I REMEMBER
@Nomen Clature I miss the original hosts too... The perfect trio in the world: Clarkson, Hammond and May
nothing sanitary about this particular focus ST due to doug spitting in it while drivingg lol
Doug just raised the price of the Focus St..
only for a couple months, plus stuff sells for really high on that website
Doug said that R129 is the last classic Mercedes and they are still dirt cheap
Doug is the kind of guy that knows exactly what cars I like and makes videos on them to raise the price before I can buy one
I know what you mean. Have you been looking at these as well?
As he's selling it...what a wacky coincidence!
Honestly I love mine, 2016, 30,000 miles, I do dad stuff in it but when I'm on my own I can drop it a couple of gears and it makes me smile every time, not overly quick but fun through the turns.
Amen Brother! 🍻👍
Also, you are WRONG sir, Performance Blue was NOT the press car color, Tangerine Scream was.
Someone said it
Doug and actual research. Name a less iconic dual
@@14s0cc3r14 lol you mean name a greater set of enemies
I am wrong.
@@wronggg LOL, yes....apparently you are Wrong. Hi, Wrong, pleased to meet you!
Idk why but I love it when Doug reviews average everyday cars
Been driving the FoST for 5 years, best car I've had. The base ST trim in 2016 was so much cheaper than the computer screen ones. The funny part is that the plastic area around the 4" screen widens out gradually, allowing you to wedge your phone in there. Instant hi-res maps!
I might need to buy a second car and so far this one is winning. I have my eye on a 2016 ST3 with 34K miles. Charcoal Gray. It's gonna be my daily driver.
@@kingdavid52 that's the color of mine. Looks great in grey and also in white imo
@@derekgardin1512 I ended up buying a 2017 ST2 in Charcoal Gray and I freaking love it.
@@kingdavid52 yep they're great cars. Tons of fun and nothing but oil changes, brakes and tires.
@@kingdavid52 how much did you pay?
Not to mention this car has such a potent aftermarket scene and is reliable af. I have an aftermarket turbo and WMI on mine for about 60k miles now and it has never missed a beat.
Reliable af??????
@@fergar0206 their not reliable my friend was giving me a ride in his stock focus st with 50,000 and the motor blew so I got a fiesta
Yes reliable, mine has 96000 miles and has been tuned fir about 75000 of these miles and it’s been brilliant, few small things but overall fantastic. Owned since new
110k miles on mine. Literally zero problems. It shocked me how reliable it has been.
@@Nikeair0117 probably lspi it, super easy to pop the motor if you boost it in hogh gear too low. 100% most common reason these engines blow.
As a designer, I’d also like to add that it most likely wasn’t the designer’s vision to have that number spelled out. We are merely vessels for someone else’s ideas, so that idea probably came from the top down. Rarely are design decisions solely the designer’s.
True in every industry unfortunately
Or some asshat in the Technical Publications Department thought he was being fancy...
Got mine yesterday. I don't have words to describe how amazing the ride quality is with the full leather recaros. Having driven shitbox economy all this time and then getting an ST3 from 2014 is a huge jump in my ride quality.
I have a focus from this era and I can confirm my butt can tell the difference between level 3 and 4. Absolutely love the feature 😂
Seconded 😂
I used to have a focus se and the jump from 3 to 4 was insane
3 is so weak and 5 so hot that you always gotta put 4😭
burglar: *breaks into doug's house*
Doug: *THISSSS....* is the 2005 Atchisson Assault Shotgun, and it is quite simply, the greatest shotgun ever made.
It was developed back in 1972 and has been in business since. It will do 300 rounds/min and has either 20 or 32 rounds in each drum magazine it is also-
burglar: u gonna shoot me or what
Doug: not before you check out this Focus ST on cars and bids
Ha! That made my night
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
Enjoyed this. 😂
It took a while to unfold, but it was worth it.
Check, mate!
"It's success led to the return of the hot hatch"
And then Ford got rid of it. All praise hyundai, I guess, for being the last manufacturer of hot hatches that still sell in the US. If anyone wants a car like this new, what options do we even have? Golf? Veloster? anything else?
Civic Type R
@@TekuTaurus Affordable the type R is not. Overpriced it is.
When it's way over priced they go away
Civic si
@Whitt Solak true but both ugly af.
They actually never got rid of the snowflakes, the other wheels were just a paid option.
Yup, they also got rid of the silver color option and replaced it with rado gray
@@travisr1324 *nardo
I didn't know you had these cars in the US. I thought these models were for the UK market. Glad to see you have them, they make a great sound and are very quick and handle great. edit: My bad, I thought this was the 5 cylinder version. Not such a great sound but still a nice car.
@@SgtSteel1 The 5 cylinder one is an amazing car. Does everything better than the version shown in the video and it has a better sound, huge boot and only 25 hp less yet it’s still faster and overall feels like a much more solid car. Plus with a few mods it can easily make 300+ hp just on stage 2
Yup is a darker gray
It's fun to drive, because it's European. Ford has huge history with hot hatches on the old continent. Cheers.
I was looking for someone to mention that this is...let me think...the 4th or 5th Focus Hot Hatch Generation to me here in Germany. There have been STs since 2002 and RSs became common with the neon green RS350 or whatever it was named. That boxy one ;)
Remember the Focus Xr5 turbo with the mental 2.5 volvo engine ? Utter turbo roller skate
@@Spookieham It's modern classic 👍
European manufacturers always been more innovating than American manufacturers because US Governments banned lot of new innovations from the manufacturers.
For example US banned directional headlights, so Citroën's DS and SM had fixed sealed beams headlights and no glass cover, unlike European models.
Meanwhile Canada allows European headlamps, but not USA.
@@automation7295 Interesting, I didn't know that, thank you. Cheers
I'm so stoked to see someone else get excited about these cars.
I wish I could get my hands on one, sadly literally no-one owns one in my country. Not even a Ford "ST" Car. At least there's Golf GTi and Golf R though.
I was excited because I own an ST
@@arteonyx where fo u live?
@@fiestahimself9135 Indonesia
I'm not excited because I drive an ST... I... 🤣
America misses ford hatchbacks so much
Looking at sales numbers they don't really miss them at all.
THIS American is. Also, manual transmissions
@@JoshuaTootell Import a new one.
Not on my budget @@schwuzi
@@schwuzi they can’t (25 year rule)
Had mine since new in 2018 and now has 100k miles. Still surprises me when driving and it’s RELIABLE (only had clutch position switch and bad battery terminals). Will continue past 200k miles easily.
a buddy of mine has a later model Focus ST, and I can confirm that these cars are more fun than anything else at this price point
can also confirm this is the case
@@julianc.6589 i can also confirm lol. my friend has a mk6 gti and my car is alot more fun to drive but his gti is alot more comfortable
It's tempting but I've had my civic for more than a year and I really miss rwd
As a 7 year owner I can confirm that too!!
@@George-nx4bp *Civics are pretty damn neat though*
I used to own one of these before switching to an RS. I learned to drive a stick because of that car. And I enjoyed every bit of it. It definitely was a fun affordable hot hatch, and I hope they bring it back here some day.
RS is damn tempting for me.
Don't want to disappoint you, but they already killed RS completely, and there are rumors that next gen Focus and Fiesta will go all electric. So I guess it's "good bye" to fast fords for good... Enjoy your as long as you can ;-)
@@JoshuaTootell it's definitely a fun vehicle. And i enjoy driving it on winding roads. You should definitely look into finding a fairly new one. Might get a good deal on It.
@@arturwaligora501 yeah I heard. Which is why I'm going to keep my RS and never sell it. Probably will be the last stick shift I ever own.
I owned a 13’ and a 15’ ST before getting an 18’ RS. It’s like an addiction lol. I’ll never sell my RS for the same reason you stated.
When the Focus has a door open, the ambient lighting on the interior door handle turns red to alert people coming towards you at night. Always thought that was cool.
I noticed that on mine but never knew why. I still don’t know why
he literally uploaded this 5 days after i got my 2014 focus st, this is awesome!
Enjoy the car, man! I've had two, they're great. I'd recommend getting a rear motor mount, it'll change the way it drives for the better! Almost no wheel hop with a better mount.
Congratulations! How is it?
@@tomhill3907 Words cannot describe how amazed I am with it. The handling is the best part about it no doubt.
@@proto4747 I will look into that, thanks for the tip!
I love how doug still reviews normal cars too
he is def the most genuine car you tuber
@@jamesdawson3094 the most consistent too!
I got rid of my 2014 Focus ST for a Taurus SHO and while the SHO was a fantastic car, I definitely missed the fun aspect of the ST.
Doug pretty much nailed what I'd assume is all of the ST owners thoughts. For $13k-$20k now used, it's very hard to beat if you're looking for something quick, sporty, practical, and just a ton of fun.
Nail on the head - "It feels fun", even at normal speeds. I've driven a Golf R, and a Focus ST back to back - the ST just feels so much more fun way before the limit. The R doesn't feel fun until you're at 9/10s, and between 9/10 and 10/10 - there's a very fine line between feeling fun, and exceeding the capability of the car/driver.
Thats because its awd and it takes a lot of pushing to get it to kick out and have fun with. The gti is a better comparison for the st
@@MrShikfootball but other AWD cars way easier to have fun with, see the Focus RS.
VW and Audi share the same problem, they're good in a straight line but that's where the fun generally ends.
Doug: is about to begin a surgery
ALSO doug: Before we get started, be sure to check out cars and bids
played out joke
How did this get 58 likes in...46 minrjes oh god
69 likes= nice
I remember reading the interviews with the Ford engineers at the time about this car's development. The fact that they were boasting about oversteer and Nurburgring testing really impressed me. I was driving a 2012 GTI at that time, and when this thing came out it ticked pretty much all the boxes on my enthusiast list. The Tangerine Scream paint was thr cherry on top of the whole thing. Fast forward 10 years later, and I'm driving a Fiesta ST, but love the ST community including our Focus brethren
"there's no visible fuel door" literally shows big ass fuel door lid on the side smh
I don't understand why people complain about cars having fuel door?
And the fact people like clean looking lines, yet all cars have cut-outs for the doors, fuel door, hood, trunk, fenders, bumpers, headlights, taillights, etc.
@@automation7295 I don't think anyone complains about cars having fuel doors. It's just cool that Ford obscured the fuel door like they did.
But then they ruined it on the facelift! They made the lights smaller but not the fuel door so it stuck out!
Me:
Doug: THISSSS is a 2013 Ford Focus ST
'13 Focus ST *STONKS*
Me: NOOOOO
Depending on where you live get a fiesta ST instead.
Trust me the value on these cars will only stay the same or drop even further, especially if you buy a 13-14 . Bought my 13 for $14k and in good condition it’s now worth about $8-11k after only a year and a half
I decided to get a fiesta ST instead and god, It's so much better (drove both) .. Put a tune on the Fiesta and its already quicker than the Focus, plus the handling is also better from the factory.
If you’re located in Florida I’m selling a 13 st3
For reference I owned a 400whp focus ST and sold it for a bone stock fiesta ST because it drives that much more fun. I'm on my second fiesta!
“Ford Focus st: The most fun you can have in a car without taking your clothes off.”
... but it’s better if you do.
A good start might be for those members, teenagers especially, who lack a sense of decency and who are impaired by a high impressionability, saturation and sexualisation to have their commenting, liking and subscribing functions revoked.
@@enforcement2 My comment is a reference to a line in the 2004 movie, Closer. That line having been made even more famous by the two Panic! at The Disco songs, “Lying is the most fun...” and “But it’s Better if you do.” in 2006.
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But I believe you are correct. I should definitely have my commenting privileges taken away.
Good comment.
me: takes a shot everytime doug says hot hatchback
also me: blacks out in my hot hatchback
*If only Audi could take a note out fords to book Real air vents and exhausts*🤯👍🥇
@brandon saavedra eh
ST is way more reliable and won't cost you a grand or more every time you need to change the spark plugs or altinator. $500 to $700 sensor replacements. I could go on forever. Audis are nice cars if you have an extra 1 to 2k to maintain it yearly.
@@Ricky_Grade10 EXACTLY, the people that are looking to buy an ST, really can’t afford or deal with the shenanigans of owning an over engineered piece of euro junk. These were such cool little cars.
German cars just require more loving wouldn't swap my 3 door golf manual for anything (my personal most expensive "repair was tires" at 111k miles
@brandon saavedra I mean it is pretty stupid to compare an entire brand against just one car
I got my ST today, same color and wheels. I really like it so far !
The wheel horn makes it easier to hit while driving with hands on the wheel I Iove it
And logically it's where the horn should be.
Why would he try to list this as a negative? The plastic isn’t bending, that’s just the horn. It clearly works exactly as intended and is actually a nice feature.
It took me a long time to come to terms that this is mazdaspeed 3 everyone been asking for, only it's built by ford.
Didn’t Ford make Mazda’s ???
@@Smileydudekxy Mazda used to be in a partnership with Ford from the early 70s, now Mazda left the partnership and is partnering with Toyota
You bet. That's the exact reason I bought it. You can get a better MS3, for way cheaper, with less mileage, and newer.
Doug needs to understand that the fact that he reviewed, sat in, and drove the car adds at least 2 points to the value. Doug Value Score should be 10.
The way he says _"ESSS TEEEE"_ clearly shows how much he likes it
That's exactly what i yell everytime I overtake someone with my fiesta ST on a small B road....
*Drop back to 3rd gear: ESSSSS TEEEEE! 😂
@@TheoSanders593 Drop a gear, and disappear ⚡
@@invincible.456 that's the ticket to happines! 😁👍
It also shows how much he likes to play for the other team. M
17:44 - Doug does funny spit
I drove one for a couple years. Absolutely loved this car and never had a single issue. Sad I ever sold it!
I am driving one, and feel it still fun to drive and practical!
that's why I'm resisting my wife's suggestion to sell mine, I know I'll regret it
@@jonjonr6 sold mine to buy her a “mom car.”
He's right, the driving experience is amazing. The ride/handling balance, steering, throttle response, and noise suppression but with a subtle growl is all well judged and sorted. I traded a BMW 335xi sedan for an ST3 have have zero regrets. It's the best driver's car I've ever owned, and practical and reliable. Yes, the dashboard is a low point. The only other downside is that I can't bring myself to sell it even at today's prices, so it looks like I'm a long-term collector now.
When I was selling these back when they were new, Performance Blue was the hot color. At least in the Philly region
Bro im from Philly. I just commented. I seen a few brand new St with all the trim fixings driving around. In person they look nice as hell!
I think that little spot is for business cards my guy ... DO NOT PUT YOUR CREDIT CARD IN YOUR GLOVE BOX!!!
I thought it was for proof of insurance cards
These and Mazdaspeed 3's are underrated for sure.
those mazda engines keep blowing up at about 200k (kms) tho
@@Born_Stellar not to mention horrible torque steer.
No one ever said in Europe..
@@Born_Stellar yeaaaa! Sure the turbo isn't super reliable but my friend and I have been restoring his speed6 and OHMAGAWD it's way quicker than it looks. 6 speed all wheel drive, what more could you want?
@@Born_Stellar I'm fully bolted on my 2008 speed 3 at 247000 miles not km. There many speed 3's & speed 6's still going strong. Depends on the owner.
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Doug: "I love how the Focus ST drives!"
Also Doug: *gives it a 6 out of 10 in Fun Factor*
I mean.. thr Focus RS exists
Honestly feels weird seeing Doug review a car I own
Who is sad that the GR Yaris is not coming to the US, probably the most desirable hot hatch rn
There will be a GR Corolla for the US market coming later this year.
@@ultraguy8771 Yes and I cant wait to see it
@@ultraguy8771 wont be the same
Toyota’s GR division is planning on releasing a hot hatch specifically for the US market, which has the potential to be very good. I heard a rumor that it will have the same powertrain underneath, but with a Corolla body on top.
@@BarbWaltersMusic thats for sure, The Corolla is more heavy than a Yaris so if its the same powertrain it might be slower.
Ford did a good job with the design for these. I still think they look good
It’s a shame Ford cancelled its Focus lineup in North America, because they still make the Focus ST and RS in Europe. They could have done like VW, who cancelled the non sports trims of the Golf and will keep offering the GTI and R versions because they actually sell better.
Sadly they don't make RS anymore. You can only get ST which has 280 hp and FWD.
I bet it comes back full electric. Remember the UK is banning combustion engine sales in the next 10 years 100% battery powered only
@@stevenplaskett7728 Ironically, the current ST still sold in the UK now has a 2.3 liter, yet the "no replacement for displacement" american drivers can't buy it.
Americans aren’t interested
I live in Germany and have the Station Wagon version of this car which was never brought to North America. Top speed 255kmh😅
Performance blue was the press car for the fiesta ST, but THE color for the focus st was tangerine scream
You mean the other way around. The fiesta st came in tangerine scream and the focus st came in the performance blue
@@jakehardy5997 The Focus did come in tangerine scream - at least it did in Britain. Also electric orange & "ASBO" green, as we used to call it
@@LiamS94 oh weird. it didnt come in tangerine scream here in the US. I wish it did though. honestly, the blue and yellow variants were the best for the 2013-2014 model years. I had a tuxedo black that i loved
Greetings from Germany : my Focus ST goes almost 270 on autobahn so tacho range is ok.
That's impressive: so you can overtake, say, a 6 cylinder BMW which is factory speed limited at 250?
@@antipodeanwizard1632 yes it should, nominally ST goes to 248 as Ford mentioned in the official spec, but usually tacho shows a little bit more than you drive in fact. . Maybe thats the reason
I have one as well and live in Germany. BuT I have the Turnier, Wagon version
I have a 2013 ST in the UK.
It is simply a great motor. Love it.
In Europe, the Focus was always a highly appreciated car, and the fast models especially were regarded as better drivers cars than the GTI's.
And I'm a Golf fan. ;)
Sadly the Focus is doing terribly on sales in Europe right now
Yeah, even the regular Focus handles great for a regular car. Ford hatchbacks are the best-handling ones unless you're spending mad money.
My 2015 Performance Blue ST is smiling right now.
Tangerine Scream is the original press color though lol.
2014 performance blue here
@@benbunch4159 yellow or orange? 😳😳
Love my 2016 Ford Focus ST (ST2) best daily driver ever!
Mine is Kona Blue, the color that replaced Performance Blue. I like it , it’s deeper and darker shade.
"does not feel like a smart phone."
Probably feels like a smart phone from 2013...
I had a Sync 2 equipped Ford for 4 years.
And it's utter trash. The thing has so many crashes, freezes, bugs and glitches, it's useless. And once you manage to reboot the thing it takes 10 minutes for it to boot.
*"Probably feels like a smart phone from 2013"*
You obviously were alive back in 2013. Smartphone were faster and more responsive than any Ford's sync system in 2013
@@automation7295 I suppose you mean "weren't alive", and of course I was. I might have exaggerated a bit. Most cars were still using resistive touch screens in '13, whereas phones use capacitive tech. Phones are inherently more responsive, and I'm aware of this.
As somebody who owned a crap Android phone in 2013, lemme just remind you: it wasn't *that* much better than what you saw in the Ford. My Motorola got extremely laggy to the point I replaced it after just a few years of use.
Haha yes, exactly
@@automation7295 phones have the benefit of yearly development cycles. Not just production cycles but development cycles. So, yes, phones in 2013 will ahead of automotive tech from that time. That's pretty standard across the all makes and models. I still believe Fords infotainment is good for when it came out.
I love my 2016 ST! Favorite car I've owned.
2:40 cmon Doug, no one was fooled, everyone literally saw the fuel door instantly, its a neat integration, but its not exactly hidden...
Bought my ST in 2013, still driving perfectly as a daily driver! Absolutely a pleasure to drive
The focus is such a fun little car I love mine
"ThIs car is so much fun, it handles GREAT"
**Drives on a highway**
also *GETS A DAMN 6 in the Fun Factor*
Thats compared to other cars.
@@polarlicht4758 would a P1 really be more fun than an ST in everyday traffic? I don't think so, because you can hit the gas for a split second amd you're already going 2x the speed limit lmao.
You can have fun everyday, everytime in a Focus ST, in an MX5, or a 86.
If I had my score I'd rate cars differently, without favoring the huge numbers, acceleration and 7 figure prices.
Doug is Doug though and he do be a type of guy to be like that sometimes lmao
Doug highlights poor interior quality
Owner: oh no
Yeh doug plugging his website again, telling us all to go look at this Focus for sale, then belittles it for silly things.
Dome light moulding usage front and back? what the... Vent control design?.
Then giving it low ratings. I bet the seller thinks he stuck the wrong deal here.
@@simonbrown3169 If he didn't find some things to complain about everyone here would accuse him of bias and trying to pump cars up for sale. Damned if you do...
@@simonbrown3169 Idk man. We're all adults. He values those things, I for one got excited that it's just a driver's car. It's made for driving, I like that! Not the best example, but a fantastic budget option if you're looking for that.
Anyone interested in buying a ‘13 Focus ST already knows.
On new years I bought a 2016 ST2 and I absolutely love this car. It's a blast to drive whether going to get groceries or a joyride on a scenic route
Awesome!
I rly hope they make another Focus RS
Ikr they only have one sedan they only make trucks and all that I miss Ford Fiestas :(
@@arrogen2831 that’s the American market, We still drive hatchbacks a lot
Doug is the type of guy to have a "Quality Deficit."
Doug is the kind of guy who has
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Also bars and kids as well
@@spywalkz1 DrugScore
I have a 2014 Fiesta ST with the Recaro seats package, love it as a daily driver!
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Yes!!! This is what I want to see!!! Actual cars that normal people can buy.
for greatly inflated prices on Caaaars and Bids!!!
I don't think they are. But the adding things do make it price but that's life.
Yeah but normal people don’t want this car lol. If so, they’d still make cars over at Ford.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 never said they wanted to buy just able to buy. Your addi g your own perspective to what I posted. Don't be a potatoe.
@@mattthrasher6050 thanks. Now I want french fries.
Doug, re: traction control off/sport mode. You have to hold down the button for 5 seconds to totally disengage traction control.
nah thats for ESC off just pressing it once will turn of traction control only. pressing and holding will turn off traction control and ESC
Have had my ST for 3 years now, agree with everything you've said. Absolute joy to drive, I still get excited going to and from work because I know I'll be driving my hot hatch!
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Paid 15,000 for my 2017 several years ago with only 1,500 miles. Cobb jst 91/e30 tune. Makes 280whp and 390wtq. Big numbers for such a small overall investment.
@TableRocked na probably not. I have all the stock stuff and it only has 30k miles
Purchased a focus ST new in ‘13. Zero issues. Still a blast to drive with 200,00 km.
Doug, there’s one cool quirk/feature that you didn’t get to explore. If you had your front windshield wipers on and shifted into reverse, the rear wiper gives you a “courtesy wipe” as there is no rear view camera.
It confused me why the rear wiper would randomly wipe until my wife told me “it only happens when you back up”
Ford was seriously doing some great things with their lineup in the 2010's. I mean some seriously great things, redeeming themselves from the previous two decades. You look at any one of their cars in the 2010's and there was a performance version of that car! The Taurus had the SHO, the fiesta had the ST, the focus had the ST and RS, the f-150 had the Raptor, the fusion's had twin turbo eco boost engines so did their explorer's and that toaster SUV. The mustang had a 4 cylinder turbo option! Ford litterally wanted to provide their customers with a performance oriented version of every one of their cars and that's more than you get from Chevy and Dodge!
Ford wanted to accommodate everybody by branching out a wide range of cars. I'm not a huge Ford fan but I cannot deny they were more in tune with their customers than either GM or Dodge. It's sad to see that they are not going to be doing this anymore. It's the right move for the company but it's unfortunate for all of us because they're were doing some truely great things with their cars.
Would love to see Doug review a Mk8 Fiesta ST if he ever could (I know they are not in NA). I got one back in October and it is a brilliant car. The Mk7 had the same pitfalls with the interior but drove great much like this generation of Focus STs, but the Mk8 drives great but also looks great inside and out. The interior quality is fantastic - the seats are leather and alcantara in a £17k car (used), it's madness!
Doug will make the Focus ST appreciate.
As an owner I am here for that!!!
Totally agree with your assessment! Having owned a 2014 ST, 2009 Mazdaspeed 3, 2016 GTI, and a 2019 WRX I can say that the ST is the best handling and most fun to drive, and feels quicker than it is. I do miss mine!
Coming back to watch this as I watched this video 2 years ago around the time I got my ST. Oh the memories
Doug is the type of guy that buys a turkey leg at Disney Land
“The focus st are affordable”
*me looking in the market*
Can’t find a st3 2015+ under 20k
I feel your pain, a low mileage one in my area is 23k
Market is insane right now.. little over a year ago I got my 14 st for 16k and it only had 23,500 miles on it
I got a 2014 ST3 with 47k miles for 15,650. Absolute steal and it was (and still is) in amazing shape. I cannot believe how much fun it is for a similar GTI with less power you’re looking at like 23k
@@matthenekk when did you get yours? They're slowly creeping down to reasonable prices. I found a 2017 with 50k for $19k.
Oh I meant to include that, I got it October 2019 so going on two years now and it’s been great. I replaced the rear struts because it started making a banging noise over turns. Those needed replacing anyway but the real culprit was the rear sway bar links. Since then it’s been rock solid
*Doug* - "This is a 2013 model, the first year"
*Me looking at 2009 Focus ST outside* - "Hmmm..."
Bruh
Me looking at my 05 ST outside-
2013 is the first year of the MK 3 gen…
Cars and bids. The only thing I remember after watching these videos.
Those wheels are called snowflakes. They where available on all years... The other wheels are optional.
They are also available on many other Ford models too
I just bought my ST a couple of weeks ago. 2013 Race Red with 30k miles. Easily the best purchase I've ever made.
Ford discontinuing the ST and RS is nothing short of a tragedy.
Doug you’d be happy to know my car has 6 levels of heated seats in both the front and rear seats 😂 2002 Audi A4
So does my man truck, but man is owned by vw so there's that.
5:28 the horn thing, Doug is surprisingly useful, actually, because if you want to honk at someone but you don't want to remove a hand from the wheel or if you're using one for driving and the other on the stick constantly, it really saves you an otherwise unnecessary movement.
I drive a 2016 Escape (Focus' big sister) with the same layout.
You're right because let's just say you're using those controls on the steering wheel you can just shit your thumb to the side and press down.
@@vjbk1587 oh yeah, that can happen too lol
@@juanda1995 I meant shift your thumb not shit. But I think you got it.
@@vjbk1587 indeed. Hahahaha