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QLED NEO vs OLED | Samsung QN90A vs LG C1 OLED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
- This is a head to head comparison of both the 2021 Samsung QN90a QLED Neo and the LG C1 OLED.
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Timestamps
Intro 0:00
General Overview 0:28
Black Levels 1:17
Inteligent mode 2:44
Cinema Mode 3:38
Brightness 4:42
DSE & Banding 5:23
General TV Viewing 6:53
HDR Viewing 8:30
Gaming 9:27
Design 10:36
Results 12:07
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I recently bought the Samsung QN90A for a bright livingroom & got a perfect panel. LOVE it. Zippy menu system & apps. Looks great. I'm considering getting another one or maybe the LG C1 for the darker bedroom... Update to my response... Quality controls on these panels and builds vary. I had a panel break and needed to replace the TV. Thankfully it was inside my return window. I got a 50' for my bedroom and went through about 5 of these before getting a good one. There were several issues including frame damage, screen damage, and rubber lining damage.
Get the A80J instead. LG is having a problem with too much saturated ugly green more so yellow that I haven't been able to fix yet.
@@YavNe is it the same problem with lg g1?
Get the Samsung OLED
Was this a problem with the samsung or lg c1?
Kudos to you for talking about DSE after getting the q95t last year it's my last samsung no matter how bright the screen is DSE is killing the experience
I bought a LG Ultrawide IPS 2years ago and I thought the IPS corner "bleed" wouldn't bother me but god it pisses me off. Can't imagine how annoying it has to be when you have a big ass grid all over your picture
What you saying about OLED ABL is this nice to watch 🤣🤣
Agreed I went sony oled this time around. Seeing what oled has to offer .
@@swa99a10 you pretty much can't go wrong with Sony and LG oled so good buy propably. What did you have before? QLED?
@@darkdraconis I had a samsung from 2014 65 inch I love Samsung, but I wanted to try something different and didn't want dirty screen affect, I close to getting the Sammy qn90a but decided oled and I like for sports and movies , I just game on a monitor.
Crazy!
Once I noticed the DSE on the Samsung, it was very hard to unsee. It clearly appeared in the rest of your video demo.
Yeah the DSE is so disappointing. If Samsung had better uniformity this would be an easy purchase decision for me as someone who watches mostly sports. Maybe I’ll roll those panel lottery dice and see what happens…
@@tazzydnc 100% and dirty screen effect
Watching these side by side was very very hard to discern which one I liked more. I feel like it's about 50/50 with some scenes looking way better on the samsung and the others looking better on the OLED. Since I will be buying this go around to replace a TV in my brighter living room, I will probably be happier with the QLED. When they were in cinema mode I felt like the difference was almost indistinguishable.
I want to try this as my exercise room tv with it's health features as I have a lot of samsung devices but for the bedroom and sitting room I have two oleds Lgb7 upstairs 55" and LG E9 65" in the sitting room. Best of both worlds I suppose.
@@sephiroth4543 May i ask sir, how many room do you have ?
@@fatilyuz4011 digging for a sugar daddy on TH-cam are we?
I've had both and the Samsung is much better.
I agree. Why do people focus so much on viewing angles? When do you watch a TV from a far right or far left angle? Give me a break. You watch your TV straight on 99% of the time and if you can, then you can move the TV or move your seating area. Great move going with QLED
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May I ask what game you were playing? Thanks! For the gaming test.
10:32 shows the samsung w the same frosted looking scope effect as the lg.. whats that about..? Different scopes used to make the samsung look better in gaming..?
Is the c1 really that much better at motion handling and sdr upscaling than the cx or is it really minuscule?
This review seems biased to more of expectations than what you are actually showing us . It's more like what you to expect to happens with oled and mini led panels rather than what I'm seeing. Or maybe it's just the camera . Just my two cents
Just bought a 65inch Samsung Q90 neo qled,got to wait a week ,but the tv on display was absolutely stunning
Wow the Samsung colors look more natural in some scenes and yes the black levels on the Oled are amazing, I seem to enjoy the highlights on the Qled I can see more details, hard choices lol.
The samsung as seen here looks way too bright to me. I would never what a tv at that level of brightness.
@@toby9999 You can adjust brightness , always be lowered. Problem with Oled is sometimes it’s just too dark.
@@tears2040 Panasonic jz2000 destroys them all lol
If lg oled c10 is good, why it just cut down the price in half after 8 months. Here in my country, 1st day release it cost 1500usd, now it cost 700usd. Samsung Qled still keep the same price or lower abit. Seem something not right with lg oled.
@@toby9999 better take ABL OLED 🤣🤣🤣
2:15 the QLED removed the clouds.
Too bright than oled so camera couldnt adjust exposure
I’ve had lg oled in the past and loved it. Got the Samsung QN85A 85 inch last week. It uses the same VA panel and processor as the QN90A. Just not quite as bright. The picture quality is absolutely phenomenal. Nice and bright with blacks that look just like oled. Excellent colours as well. Over the moon with the performance with it. 4K hdr movies are jaw dropping on it.
Happy to read this comment, as I just ordered the 85" QN90A. I was curious what distance you sit from your 85", and did you notice any challenges with that due to the size of the panel? I'm planning for about a 12' distance, so hoping that will be good.
Looking forward to seeing a comparison between the Samsung qn90a and the Sony X95J
X90J is garbage, I hope X95J is better.
@@ElGrueso it better be for the prices Sony is charging for em
Me too
Good review. As someone who watches a lot of sports and prefers LED's because of the static channel logo's, that banding would be a deal breaker sadly.
Never had a problem with Sony so far. But Sony is known for that anyway. I watch NBA and NBA relaxed Shows every day for 2-3h plus 2h of NBA Video games (with static logos) 18 months not the slightest burn in.
That's a non issue with the new Oleds. As long as you don't use it recklessly and have the TV on over the weekend, this won't result in permanent burn in, even after 8-9 hours
@@darkdraconis
That sounds like Mogwai logic
You won’t have more Mogwai as long as you don’t get one wet, and you won’t have gremlins as long as you don’t feed them after midnight
People sometimes fall asleep mid-movie or during a tv show binge; the last thing I want is for those instances to add up over a couple of years and then all of the sudden I have menu screens or header bars or channel logo’s faintly remaining on the screen.
DSE is seemingly a screen lottery issue now-a-days, so that’s not something I’m looking forward to dealing with if I get a QN90A, but the dull brightness of the G1 and the ABL that kicked in on some of the daytime nature clips in this review are also things I don’t want to have to deal with even on a somewhat regular basis…
I’m leaning towards the Samsung but maybe my better play is to get a really nice power sofa this year and hope that either of next years flagship models address some of the aforementioned issues to a better degree…
If OLED (or a non-organic equivalent) comes out with a model with literally virtually no risk of burn in, even in the event of prolonged use with headers or HUD’s or logo’s or menus being kept up regularly for hours (either from binge playing or falling asleep before turning off the screen) AND addresses the lack of brightness capability AND finds a smoother application of their ABL (or no longer needs one at all) then I’m surely to get an LG OLED
with that said, if Samsung is able to address the noticeable blooming that happens in more than a few situations, the black crushing/lack of finer black details in various situations and can manage to address the DSE screen lottery then I’d be all about that QLED/miniQLED life
MicroQLED is beyond cost prohibitive for me and they have yet to announce a 65” version… that and I have no idea how good or bad it is compared to miniQLED or OLED’s…
@@TheMulToyVerse idk man personally i would rather just get an oled with a best buy extended warranty and when if burn in eventually does happen i just get a new tv, rather than having to go through 5 samsung tv's to get a non issue one.
Hope you didn't get the c1. Not the best tv to display fast moving objects.
It's such a hard choice between bright and vibrant or dark inky color
I've had the c1 for a month and sent it back. I now have the qn94a which will be qn90a outside Europe and its far superior in every way.
How are the black levels And the colors? And what do you think would be better for movie watching?
LED will never be superior to OLED, what a joke
@@forsakenoutcast all depends on what people want. Personally vastly prefer the oled
@@forsakenoutcast Led been better overall since Q9FN in games and the last 2 models. Movies oled is better, S95B blows away Lg in movies now after latest firmware updates but only 65” though
Mate, I kicked three gaming monitors and two TV’s to the kerb for a 48” C1 as a monitor, and a 65” c1 for a TV. I don’t care what anyone says, you cannot beat self emitting pixels period. If in your opinion OLED is better for movies, what makes it less better for gaming than Q9FN, peak brightness?, who cares. I’d rather have 800 nits of a pure image in HDR than 1700 nits of blinding oversaturated crap. Anything dark on screen isn’t even a contest. Doesn’t matter how many dimming zones the LED has. OLED is superior, Micro-LED is superior again what technology is that based on?. Self emissive, why is that? Because that’s where end-game TV tech is, not LED. I don’t know why I’m even replying when my original comment is a fact not an opinion.
While it isn't possible for the qn90a to have lower black levels than the LG C1, it is possible for the perceived black levels to be lower because the display can get so much brighter while having comparable or identical black levels.
I think comparisons to Sony X95J (maybe even the more budget X90J) and LG QNED vs QN90A is very much warranted. Those will be the TVs people have to choose from if not wanting OLED and wanting brighter TVs.
QN90A is the only LED comparable to OLED
And LG QNED vs QN90A is no comparison. LG QNED is rubbish
@@seanstewart8773 what about Sony x95j or and sony x90j
@@itzmrgg6535 I have a x90j and love it. Definitely one of the best led tvs on the market, x95j too
@@jackdubs25 I have the Sony x90j too it’s one the few best led TVs with black levels closed to oled
I'm impressed that you get them both synched perfectly lol
Nah, there’s just a slight delay on the LG
LG does default to cooler tone. Needs to be switched to warm50 or LSF or filmmaker mode
Oled all day beginning of the video skin tones all ways tells to truth , natural skin tones Is what I love about oleds .
OLED is gorgeous, no question. It's also trash. It won't last more than 2 years.
@@Jg-be7it lol I have a 2015 oled and looks great after 6 years my kids use it every day , I understand it's your on opinion, I have 3 oleds tvs with no issues and still have my pioneer elite plasma I use from time self emissive displays I love.
@@michaelfoster3441 it's not an opinion. It's a fact. Two OLED panels lasted less than 2 years for me. Thats with me hovering over everyone in my household as they watch TV, having a meltdown if they pause it to use the bathroom. My Panny plasma is going on 12 years now, not even a hint of burn in. Never again, OLED is trash. LG deserves a class action lawsuit.
@@Jg-be7it No fact for me I have a 2015 model watch 3D movies on it all the time incredible Everytime me and my family watch it not one issue since I had it , I also have C9 in the bedroom no issues , and a 48 inch C1 i just bought for a PC monitor and video editing . What happen to you just didn't happen to me .
@@michaelfoster3441 It happened to everyone else with an OLED over 2 yeaes, but not your 4 sets. OK LG shill. How many pennies per post do you get?
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@theunknownplayer relevance?
@theunknownplayer "Super inaccurate with his opinions"?? Did you listen to that before you said that.. OK GenZ look just because you don't like his opinion doesn't make it inaccurate hints wise his opinion because that is what he's seen weather people like it or not..
I purchased the LG 55 in. CX OLED 4K HDR Smart TV with AI ThinQ OLED55CXPUA. I looked at all of the the other TVs, including the Samsung (which I really like the brand), and landed on the above TV. Really really like it. This TV is amazing for watching HD, 4k and all the other Ultra HD and 4k modes. I have it in a room that does not have a lot of light. The TV contrast is amazing. The picture detail, also amazing. If you have the money (because this TV is more than other 4k televisions), spend it on the LG OLED. As an aside, I did look at Sony OLED as well. Based on the reviews online, I went with the LG because the price on the Sony was much more and there were very few reviewers that liked the Sony Bravia over the LG.
I bought Sony and I am really happy with my decision…. I just love the colours and built quality…
HDTV Test or Stop the FOMO channel recommended latest Sony TVs now as Sony has done a great job in latest TVs…
Have my C1 coming on Sunday, after watching this comparison I have no regrets. Sure the Samsung is brighter but the colours and richness in detail on the C1 is just better. My current TV is around 300 nits dimmer then the C1 (Bravia 450 nits compared to C1 around 700-750) and I’ve never found the brightness to be terrible. Also not a fan of the vignetting around the edge of the Samsung around 7:13 mark. Great comparison as always, one of the best tech channels on TH-cam.
Cancel it and save a £1000 and get the CX
@@stevenchell443 The C1 will have more support down the years compared to the CX. After watching countless comparisons between the C1 and CX I’m happy with my decision, better motion, better black frame insertion with less brightness lost. Although both are amazing TVs by all accounts.
@Grote Slurf I’ve had it 3 months now and still nothing wrong.
@Grote Slurf In my opinion you just can’t beat OLED when it comes to black levels and dark room viewing which we do mostly. You tend to only get burn in from static logos and since I prefer to play games with no hud and pretty much everything I watch has no channel logos or other static elements on screen I’m not too worried. Each to their own though, hope you found a TV you like :)
@@stevenchell443 Not at all. It gets raised black and bad colors issue after some sh***y firmware update!!!
Good review. I have an OLED and it’s no where as dark as it appears in this video. Also, it is worth bearing in mind some people will find the Samsung too bright and it can give you a headache after prolonged use. This is after several attempts at lowering the brightness without losing too much picture quality.
If you were used to the old plasma TVs you will prefer the OLED as it is the closest to the old plasma
is your tv in like a living room area with windows? because i’m thinking of getting the OLED but im worried about the brightness issue
I agree. I have an OLED as well and at no time have I ever thought to myself that it looks as dim as on this comparison video.
@@drupad-kz5qg Yes my TV is in the living room with windows but I close the curtains to watch movies anyway which is what I’ve always done even when I had standard LED TVs. For regular TV watching, the windows have never been a source of bother
Just got the LG C1 OLED on Monday. It definitely is darker on video games. I had to go into the settings to brighten it because things I'd see on my very old Bravia were too dark to see on the LG. And nobody likes to get shot in the dark.
@@Blackdog4818 Make sure you turn off the energy saver settings. It brightens the tv a lot more.
The Q90 gives more realistic sunlight brightness and the C1 looks too blue to me so it doesn't seem so accurate on the colors but the shadows are a lot more realistic in the C1
The OLED is right by the window with the sun shining through, so it takes away some of the detail of the OLED which his meant to be viewed in a dark room
@Bzake
They have too much blue light energy in general. I can see this even watching my OLED in person.
@@cyberedge881 It needs to be on warm
I’m buying the QN90 at a drop down price on Sunday after watching this video. Great and honest review.
I have the c1 and is nowhere near as dim as that! Plenty bright enough to the point it hurts my eyes!
Don't think the Samsung would be a comfortable viewing experience being as bright as it is.
Foreal I was like does he have the backlight brightness all the way down cuz mine is like u said almost too bright at times. But unbelievable clear
Agree! I belive that on the C1 there are some settings which could rise the brightness a lot
The Samsung makes the oled look like a dim fart. When microled hits its game over for oled.
@@CaBdosdos no. Oled for dark rooms mini led for bright rooms
I recently purchased an LG 65 inch C1 and it’s absolutely gorgeous. My home theater is in a dark room like most home theaters and the LG is plenty bright and I’m very happy with it. How many 2.1 ports does the Samsung have?
One 2.1 port
@The Loyal You are entitled to your own opinion. Have a nice day.
@The Loyal Oled's do not get light bleed.
The best review I’ve seen. I recently sent back a c1 because I felt the picture and menus were too dark in comparison to my old 43” Sony led. At this point I had never even heard of Qled 90. Now I’ve seen your side by side comparison I’m definitely going for Qled. It’s for a medium sized room with evening sunlight and watching standard hd tv and streaming on it. It’s a no brainier for me. It’s Q👍🏻
Ever heard of picture settings
@@indian_crocodile yes. Thank you buddy. I’ve adjusted all the picture settings on my new Qled and I’m so much happier with it compared to my C1 with all the settings adjusted 👍🏻👍🏻🎩 I can’t recommend the Qled enough. Have you also owned both TVs?
@@seanandhelen L
Thankyou for this. Actually the best comparison vid of qled oled ive seen. Nice voice too. Im really happy you picked Samsung for gaming because this is what I couldnt make my mind up about and what was most important to me..
Congratulations on your reviews, I would love to test my oled lg c1 if possible have the link of the first video you used for the review, the close-ups of the animals are spectacular. thank you
Was the HDR content for the Samsung from Netflix? Other reviewers have said there is an issue with the internal app of the tv and the content is not as good because of the lack of Dolby Vision. I am wondering if you have the same experience?
I was going to comment same thing
Not being "as good" happens when an LCD panel has the same low brightness as the Oled.. the movies are coded for 1000nits.. the oled reaches 700 the Samsung over 1300.. so do the math.
Awesome comparison !!!!! DSE & Banding scares the BJesus out me when spending that much $ thanks for the review top notch
Black crush and low brightness sucks as well
Great video! I have the QN90A and I love it. Everyone who has seen it in my house has been blown away with the imagery.
Please tell me you weren't using out of the box settings when reviewing these and that they were both calibrated as best as they could be for a true 1 to 1 comparison?
The average consumer won’t calibrate their tv
I wonder how the LG G1 would hold up against the Samsung QN90A on the scenes where the LG C1 looked too dim with the “20% higher brightness” panel of the G1. And in Game Mode also.
my C1 sits in a bright Livingroom and it does Great without maxing out the TV.. I tryed a QN90A an took it back to try the C1 an the C1 is not leave. This TV has everything I will need for the next 5+ years better PQ an $100 cheaper Not including the extended warranty that was also cheaper
Hdr, brightness and color are amazing on the qn90a and qn90a has better input lag for gaming. The c1 is an excellent oled but on the qn90a everything is more alive, more lively, the colors above all seem so alive. The c1 seems a bit off. I know they are different technologies but I prefer more pop colors and higher brightness.
@@velkarian55 I'm not talking about contrast which is better in c1 but about brightness, hdr and color. The qn90a has higher brightness and color volume for a superior experience. Colors appear more saturated and more vivid to make the scene appear more impactful. The c1and oled in general having a much lower brightness, the scene appears darker and less vivid. Furthermore the qn90a has a better input lag which makes it the best gaming tv. Oleds are great tvs but still have too low brightness. I repeat only personal opinions, then everyone can think as they want. I prefer brightness and more saturated colors.
@@francescosalzano7830 it does not have better input lag i dont know where ur getting ur numbers from.
The c1 has the best input lag. As said above, no idea where you’re getting your info. Don’t listen to curry’s, they don’t have a clue
Me too like Samsung Qn90a only, I purchased It finally
I 100% agree. I have the qn900a 8 k tv. This TV can hit 4000 nits! The HDR is amazing and OLED doesn't come close. The black levels are also good.
I am not very impressed with all that. What's with obsession with OLED and the black levels? I have watched both TVs and the OLED is just not interesting. Why would I buy a TV so I get better black levels? Are they obsessed over the black bars at the bottom and top of the TV when you're watching a movie? 🤣🤣 Seriously, I don't want to see black content. I want to see bright content with excellent HDR which pops off my screen. OLED cannot do that and it never will be able to do that.
Another big thing with OLED is the viewing angles. I could care less. Most people including myself watch a TV straight on 99% of the time. I occasionally get a handful of people in my living room, but that rarely happens. What do I care what they're viewing angle is when they'll be out of my house in an hour?
LG lost the smartphone war and they will be losing the TV war very soon. Even with its loyal fans, Samsung has almost 50% of the market share
Furthermore, for those who must have OLED, you're in luck. Samsung's OLED will be out soon which puts LG's OLED to shame. You will get the best of both worlds with Samsung's OLED. Bright HDR images and pure blackness. LG is out for the count.
Sorry for all you LG fanboys, but the game was over a long time ago
I got my C1 in a bright Livingroom an without maxing the TV out it does absolutely great With brightness to spare. This TV has everything I will need for the next 5+ Years.. Plenty of 2.1 ports for when the late Gen consoles Release(I never buy 1st of a Generation). My X1X an PS4 Pro look Great. They both have there own 1TB ssds(T7 an T5). Got great PQ got DV HDR10 HLG an more.. I'm good till at least 2026 when the warranty ends. I actually disagree on the gaming when I tryed the Gaming on the QN90A to the C1 I now got.. But Picture is perspective.
Glad to hear that. I have a pretty bright living room and I’m leaning towards the 77 inch C1. I know everyone says QLED for a bright room, but I can’t help but lean towards an OLED. I’ll have my blinds down most of the time too.
@@yaaason I don't blame you.. mine is 65". Some people like Super Bright Picture. I've never been one of them. I just need Bright enough an even the C1 give me more then I need. I have 3 BIG windows 2 in the Livingroom(1 each side) an 1 in the Kitchen. My worse case is I shut 1 of the Livingroom windows an still Leaves 2 rooms nice an Bright. My Live an Kitchen are separated by a bar.
I was expecting the oled to mop the floor with the neo qled but my goodness the neo qleds black levels are impressive. Also the color accuracy and vivid colors especially in game mode blew me away. The only thing keeping me away from thr neo qled is dse
But the oled will always be superior do the qled and lcd
@@abdarsmk6r not qled, not I every instance. Qleds quantum dot panels have 90% color volume while oleds only have 73%. But when samsungs releases their oled tvs with quantum dot panels you'll get the best of both works.
@@armandopacheco-soto3592 but oled will always be better lol
That's literally what I said 😂
@@armandopacheco-soto3592 you said qled?🤣🤣
This video really has me considering exchanging my 77” LG C1 for the QN90A. I have a PS5 and a Series X, so I want the best gaming picture possible. I have noticed the C1 looks good in FPS games but for some reason, not so good in 3rd person games. For the money I paid, I am not convinced. What’s more is the regular cable tv processing seems grainy compared to the 4 year old Samsung KS8000 that the C1 is replacing. Up until this video the whole planet seems to say the CX or C1 is the best gaming tv you can buy...based on my experience I am not so sure. Thank you for the great compassion!
Does anyone know what game he was playing ?
@@Kingdingalang outriders
Yeah oled is NOT for everyone. Led back lit lcds are very vibrant and get good enough for 95 percent of consumers. Lg oled is overhyped.
Hello Jason, glad to see your comment. I have a 65ks8000 and i want to replace it but i dont know if I should go to the 77 LG C1 or the QN90A , what do you think? I have a PS5 and I love what my ks8000 do with it, but I love toi watch movies too...
An excellent review, DSE is putting me off. I'm waiting to see the LG QNed and Sony X95J....once again thankyou.
Thanks
I would say every LCD TV has DSE. You may get lucky and not get it at all. Even OLED have DSE, my OLED had a little DSE but it wasnt extreme.
I don't have dirty screen or banding on my qn90a 55 inch. But I have a friend who has really banding on his C1.
@@srdeath117 what u saying about ABL on your OLED??
been using sony KDL55W804A for 8 years. Still great no issue, dead pixel etc. Cant wait for my LG CX to arrive. Hoping for good long term use as well
Couldn't stop seeing DSE after it was mentioned.
Full screen white will reduce peak brightness on oled due to screen saving algorithms that can't be turned off. Peak brightness for specular highlights will be much brighter.
The grid pattern / DSE kills it for me..
I fancy the Samsung Q90, I like OLED but put off with the negative feedback on screen burn, longevity,my last TV is a Samsung ES8000 which is still running beautiful 8yrs on,so I will sacrifice the small perk's Sony or LG has,
Don’t be. The likelihood of burn in is tiny.
@@Dwoollam I found out yesterday that it don't have catch-up services neither Man🙄, gutted,so I am leaning more towards the Qn90a now, think I'm getting it Next week,, thanks for letting me know tho, I sounds there's downfalls with QLED & OLED and a bit of a lottery👍
@@Dwoollam No. It's not. The likelihood of burn in is nearly 100%... it's just a question of how long it takes to happen.
@@davecarsley8773 not true. I’ve had an Oled for about 4 years and not one issue. I watch it about 4-6 hours a day, I game on it for hours at a time. So it’s not 100% chance.
I bought the c1 a week ago and the picture is....chefs kiss 💋
Summary :
Neo QLED : Decent black levels , amazing colours
OLED : Great realistic black levels at the cost of washed out bad colours
In your gaming comparison did you have game optimizer on? And was it in HDR on the C1?
yeah because that was really bad and im sure int aint like this lol but still not one person who responded to that lol
I'm glad to hear very important info wich one of them is better for SD/HD content or normal tv channels.
I have absolutely no need for streaming services and i don't play games on tv.
Of course is only up to you, what u are using your tv for, but without the content u mentioned u are missing at least 50% of the tv’s capabilities and in the end their purpose
I pulled the trigger, snagged a Qn90a 75 inch. Im very impressed with the brightness as well as the blacks. When I compared it to the LG CX 77 inch I found my eyes gravitating to the Samsung way more mostly because of how bright the specular high lights popped more while simultaneously watching several Marvel movies on both. IMHO you can't go wrong with either but for me I prefer the QN90A simply for the lighting effects illuminating out of the screen causing my mancave to light up as well. Also I can adjust the Qn90a to look just as good as the CX but not the other way around because of the nits being higher on the Qn90a. Just wanted to put that out there for anyone who's hesitant about making a purchase like I was. More than happy I got the Samsung Qn90a! ✌out!
Did yours have the black bars as seen on the comparison vid here?
@@Reptileman110 None whatsoever, believe me I searched for them both far away, middle and close as I could without being color blinded.
No you cannot adjust the Q90 to look as good because it cannot match the contrast not motion of the qled.
Not a bad TV, but the cx is on another level.
@@reclaimer1178 You like myself have been told that so much by the so called experts you actually believe it. Place the Qn90a next to an oled any oled and see for yourself. Afterwards run a 4k or 8k nature video with sunlight, trees and wildlife, ask yourself, if I went outside which one comes closer to what my eyes would actually see. Come back and talk to me afterwards. Don't listen to any reviewer, review it yourself. Oled panels don't get bright enough imo. Do they look great ....hell yeah. Just not bright enough to give off a sunlit environment. As far as movies I did adjust it to give it oled quality without the black crush and with on par detail. As far as dolby digital is concerned it's mastered between 4000 to 10000 nits tell me what oled can reach that level of brightness? Not a one but it can be tone mapped to simulate the appearance of brightness it doesn't have. While hdr10+ is mastered between 1000 and 2000 nits see where I'm going. I have full advantage of 10+ right now the Qn90a reaches near 2000 nits. So my simulation is greater than your simulation can't be refuted. Take the test.. see for yourself. By the way I own two oleds I'm not being a fan boy. But I do use my own mind from time to time.
@@rayfieldtownsend9308 do you miss Dolby vision content?
Just ordered a 65inch QN80a so pumped. Been gaming PC, XSX, and PS5 gaming ony odyssey G7/G9 this entire time. So excited for my first gaming TV
I think 90A is VA panel... probably best for gaming
@@trumpameri1638 it's weird there is no q90a only the qn90a. It's weird how it's the only ips panel. I got to use it last night. I LOVE IT colors absolutely POP set rocks especially because of it being ips. With local dimming it's phenomenal. Her is just as good but i was blown away by the sdr. Better than the q80t
@@trumpameri1638 also I'm a high school student and can't afford the 65inch qn90a65 inch
@@ritzy4593 I'm also waiting for QN 90A NEO price to drop.... Q80 T model is very affordable today but i really like QN series
@@trumpameri1638 I'm sure the q90a 65 would be good on black friday but i wanted a tv for summer and now so i went with this
Thank you for the great review. 2:33 one can see the oled showing much more detail imo. On the Samsung I hardly see the writing on the paper on the LG it is much better. Gaming for PS5 maybe Samsung but for XBox X I would prefer the LG.
It maybe due to the camera exposure
I don't see what difference it makes between what system you're playing on that would influence which TV you choose 🤔
It might have been the settings my ps5 looks way better than what was showed on my few years old lg c9. Have to see in person and adjust the settings to really see but I doubt the Samsung has anything on the lg for gaming. 1ms response low input lag vrr, free sync and g sync with 4 hdmi 2.1 ports. To me it’s the lg all day
I just bought the LG CX 65. I'm a professional video editor. ALL of the video presets crush the blacks! To get a good picture, I modified a Cinema setting by first putting the contrast up to 100%. Then, with a brightness adjustment, I got the stunning picture I was looking for. No crushed blacks. I'm unfulfilled, though, with this TV in that, while I have my stunning picture, I feel I must be doing something wrong to get to the picture I have now.
I just did this with the C1.. Put the contrast up to 100% on Cinema mode and it already looks 10 times better.. can I ask what you set your brightness level at for this mode?
@@DocJupiter for brightness just set it to what pleases your eye.
After having issues with a 2018 Q9 65" that Samsung provided a refund for, and purchased a 2019 Q90 65" that I have been experiencing issues with DSE and some other picture issues (waiting on Samsung to issue the refund), I am leaning towards the LG OLED C1. From what I have read so far, the burn in is only a risk if you are watching something like a news channel or weather channel with a constant scrolling bar at the bottom. Thanks for the thorough review @AllThingsTech!
Man, the Samsung is doing really good. I have a bright livingroom and know2i really dont know what to do. Wanted a G1 but know i wait for the x95j and consider also the Qn95a.
yep guy told me at best buy G1 is a scam the 20% brightness is on a 5% white window which human eye can’t even see🤣🤣 LG is the best for TVs but doesn’t get a shit about brightness levels
@@TechCody113 it’s bright enough. More than enough. I feel like sometimes people try to justify, or look for reasons to own or “stick up for” the brands they own or simply wanting to buy the cheaper TV. I’ve had a KS8000 for years. Wonderful tv, but there is no getting around the fact that OLED is simply superior in every way. Gaming, watching sports, detail, real blacks, whatever. Unless you’re watching in direct freaking sunlight or putting a TV outside, there is no advantage to a Samsung unless you want to spend a little less, which by the way I totally get
@@solidsnake7167 that’s my problem i have 4 big windows shining into the tv so i can’t use oled, someone told me outside wolf game mode the A90J is like 1100 nits of brightness but in game mode goes down to around what the LG CX is so it’s a waste still LOL
I checked both out and to my eyes the LG was much superior. I’m quite shocked that the black levels were a tie. It’s a night and day difference in dark scenes. I feel that lcd is a dying breed, oled all the way for me.
true, sooo different
just HDR.
interesting to see the same vidéo into a bright environement ! good job
Ive got the old lg c7 but my living room is very bright, thinking of maybe not going oled next
Leaning towards the LG for my next TV
I've had the cx for 2 weeks now and it's the best set I've ever had. It was like experiencing hi Def for the fist time.
This is legit one of the best review channels on YT!
False Quantum TV is
@@eddieevangelista6014 are you delusional? 😂
@@dylanhumphrey2479 lol I'm just joking. I can't listen to that guy ramble
@@eddieevangelista6014 I was so concerned I was just gonna point out how he goes back and forth on what he likes and hates 😂😂😂
@@dylanhumphrey2479 I came across his channel. Watched a few videos and I see what you mean. I'm truly not a fan of him. Not even as a person.
I have a Samsung QF7 and I hate it. We watch everything with subtitles on and on dark scenes the screen brightens and dims as the subtitles come on and off. It drives me crazy. Would love to see some comparisons with subtitles displayed.
Gets the LG OLED trust me burn in not really an issue anymore in these sets you have to keep the tv on for a year straight playing the same content too get burn in. So you can enjoy your subtitles in dark scenes without tv doing weird things
Nice Side By Side video, Plz see the difference between Samsung QN90A vs Samsung Q90T
it's amazing that I didn't see that DSE before. Once you mentioned it, I saw it throughout the rest.
Great comparison. However I always find they LG TVs always have a cool blue tinge. That’s always put me off.
One thing I’ll disagree with is the black level scoring. No matter what LCD panels improve upon it’ll never be able to mimic the black levels of an oled. This is not based on assumption but on facts. Technically speaking the QLED should have gotten 4/5 for it’s black levels, as it does a decent job but can’t compete with any oled. It’s a technical fact. I have a habit of watching the tv in the evening or with the curtains closed so OLED will always be my preference. As for brightness, these panels are plenty bright enough. I’d choose accuracy and realism over pop any day. You still can’t argue with infinite contrast either. It does make a huge difference in dark environments. Either way, you can’t go wrong with either tv. But the advantages of an oled still outweigh traditional lcd panels to me personally.
+1
2:34 lot of detail on OLED
But look @10:23 more detail on Qled
Maybe due to overexposure of camera
Thanks for the excellent review. If only Samsung could end its animosity with Dolby vision and add it to their TVs
2:31 - He says “you can see a lot more detail on the Samsung”
Yet on the LG you can actually see what is written on the page, on the Samsung it’s too white/bright.
So you can see more detail on the LG
I prefer brighter and colour popping on Samsung rather than having OLED its very dim 👎👎
Excellent comparison! Great tvs, if LG wasn't so dim it would be best tv ever! I am still happy with my Q90t.
LG is not dim. You don't even know what you missing not heaving OLED TV.
@@igordelija9185 I know OLED is very good, and we all are missing Sony A90j tvs and qn90a tvs .
@@igordelija9185 I hear you on the non dim but as a non oled owner I see like a haze or like an out of "focused look" on most oleds except the a90j. Do you not see that? I've noticed in store and on these reviews. If you say things magically change at home I'll take your word for it. Just worried to buy the c1 and be disappointed and wish I had a more vibrant screen. I personally don't think "brightness" is the right word. I think vibrance is what I don't see on oled.
@@TheXblacksupermanx thought the same thing but I got a C1 not too long ago and the colors genuinely surprised me. In SDR, it’s decent, but good god in HDR, the colors are genuinely superb. One of the main things that shocked me.
Just bought the C1
When the girl held the lamp up the samsung picture was horrible lot of blooming compared to lg c1 your review just convinced me to go for the c1
Must be his camera making it look like there's more blooming than there actually is.
great video bro, I wonder if you did a comparison of upscaling between these two models in the standard definition, 720p, 1080p, which is better?
Can’t wait to buy a qn90a
This video worries me how dark the LG C1 is. The white are just grey. Surely that can’t be the case for a £1,500 television
For a second, I thought Will Smith was about to shoot a Leopard.
Thanks for the review. I'm looking to a TV for the PS5 and these were my favourite choices so far, I was thinking the Samsung because of screen burn, but after seeing that I'll definitely be getting the Samsung.
Great choice mate
@@jurijkratz4792 no.
@@geraltyen9847 yes
Yeah the Samsung might be a great TV, but when you pop in a Blu-ray with Dolby vision (which is most new releases nowadays) the LG wins every time because it supports it. It’s that simple.
Until Samsung TVs support Dolby vision or they come out with another widely adopted standard, they’re just not worth it if you plan on watching 4K Blu-rays or Netflix or Apple TV a lot 🤷♂️
The OLED is bright just the Samsung making it look worse I don’t even turn the tv up too full brightness hurts my eyes and I use my TVs mostly at night so if I was too pick a tv out of the two I’d go LG OLED
Relax hdr10+ is definitely good enough for the average person
@@lonniechamberlain251 doesn't matter if it's good if there is very little content with it
Excellent comparison, taking a hard look at the Samsung qn90a.
I believe people who already own an OLED will be forever sold on it. People on the fence on buying either, will lean towards the Samsung when pricing is considered. Thanks for sharing.
Contrary. People who already own OLED, such as myself, will never buy OLED again. Burn in is unavoidable, no matter how careful you are. Green blob is also prevalent. Both are problems LG is going out of its way to hide. An OLED will last 2 years before its limited brightness starts to fade, and you'll probably have moderate burn in by that time, which will progress quickly and ruin anything you watch.
@@Jg-be7it well I don't have any comparable qled. The closest a qled gets here is the q80a. I bought the C1 understanding that. I am I wrong
@@space0015 Q90A Neo QLED is the closest.
@@Jg-be7it according to screwed prices here in india, no
Excellent review as always.. I really do enjoy the unique thing you do where you tweak the TVs to make them look virtually identical just to show that each TV can be had to look like the other.
The DSE is such a let down. Samsung needs to have better quality assurance.
Also too bad it fails a little in HDR. Not sure if that came down to Dolby Vision vs HDR10 in your examples?
Gaming is surprisingly good quality. But I do wonder if in very dark areas it might not have that blueish haze of blooming at times that can be distracting.. Actually surprising that it has so much of it givens 792 zones. I bet even the Q90T will have less blooming in some scenarios.. I wonder what is causing that on this new MiniLED.
I hope you will test the Sony X90j and even more so the X95J. Do same comparison with C1 again and if you still bought another or replaced the QN90A.
The DSE (Dirty Screen Effect) is real. I recently bought the 75" Q80T, and I'm sending it back. It was really weird. I didn't notice DSE when I briefly played Celeste, but I noticed it right away when I played Bloodroots on XSX. There's a boss battle where you're running on a vertical plane, and it's noticeable when you move left to right. Blooming is bad as well. I played Tetris Effect, and whole screen felt really cloudy. I'm exchanging it for the C1.
btw, they advertize the 43" of qn90a as 120hz and it's 60hz, plus that it has anti-glare and ultrawide while these are only for the qn95a. even the online stores in my country say that it's 120hz and has anti-glare and ultrawide. Samsung didn't even bother to correct the misinformation that even their own site spreads.
Adjusting the Samsung down to try and match the oled completely ruins why you would buy the Samsung. Compare the two but with the Samsung running how it's meant to be. The difference in brightness and beautiful saturated colors is huge. Samsung qn90a all day.
Watching this video on lg cx...samsung is good but oled is still the king
As you are in the UK have you done any comparisons between the C1 and the QN94/95A or the QN90A with the QN94/95A? The UK QN90A is very different from the US 90A as it has an IPS panel and lesser features compared to the UK flagship the QN94/95A which is more similar to the US QN90A both with a VA panel. I was just wondering how the QN94/95A compares to the LG C1 as the lesser QN90A was very close in this video to winning and I think the 94/95A might just beat it. Thank you.
As he said about the zebra shot.
" samsung looked like it had even better black levels"
Basically this phenomena is occurring since the scene is being portrayed at an immense dynamic range, with near 2000 nits highlights on the NeoQled
The 'black' level, right next to something extremely bright, will as a result create an amazing contrast.
The perceived difference between dark and bright is extreme, therefore blacks suddenly appears darker, relative to incredibly bright highlights.
If the oled had any peak brightness worth writing home about, it would become very apparent just how good an infinite contrast ratio really is.
But at the end of the day, you can't fake brightness, nothing comes for free.
If the screen can't even deliver the amount of cd/m2 nits, a regular small lamp on your table is delivering, then the screen will not be able to fool your brain into believing it's actually portraying a sunny day at high noon.
Heck it won't even deliver a street lamp at night.
Great job! I had a lot of similar thoughts. Absolutely loved the brightness on the QN90A, but local dimming algorithm was definitely not at its best in certain movies, the C1 would do better.
One thing about the reliability issue I want to mention in my c1 5% grey I had some serious clouding and a bit of vertical banding did you have any of that on the C1? My QN90A also had a similar DSE problem to yours.
New follower of the channel but I'm a big fan. Keep up the great content! I'd love to see what you think of the A90J and how it compares.
Man the a90j is a beast I love mine I own the lg c9 I had the lg c1 for a few weeks and returned it for this a90j its crazy. It can get bright saturated colors unlike most oled tvs usually it's only darker colors. This tv gets bright for an oles also but I actually like using it like older Sony tvs by setting it on gradation preffered tone mapping not the brightness preffered one. It is outstanding man and you can even add black adjust for a ton of depth and ads live color and pull out insane saturation. My art was saturated out of the box my buddies wasn't as much as mine but the settings you can access is amazing to add whatever you want to the image it's so versatile man. Best upsclaing I've seen. Best 4k I've seen it adds even more details then I have ever seen from any tv. The motion is good regardless of what quantom says haha. This tv has outstanding motion. He likes sop so soap opera effect. While companies are trying to get more natural motion without as much sop. This tv imo is the best oled that's ever been made. I agree with vincnet from HDTV test. I also agree with b the installer. I agree with all of them this tv is insane.
Yeah I ended up getting it myself and it's been great!
How do u check this DSA and vertical/horizontal bending? Thanks
Samsung = no Dolby Vision. End of the VS, in my opinion.
Vs?
@@TheFbiFilesRepeat versus
HDR10+ is the future. You are wrong. Dolby vision IQ is already doomed. Neo have everything
Is the Qn85 Good as a pure gaming tv ?
Couldn't you just increase contrast and saturation while gaming on the c1? Great comparison though!
Plus up the in game brightness, the LG does go brighter he was just using standard mode with no tuning
@@colk41 I game on a C1 and the brightness is too much at times. I had to turn the OLED lighting down to 80
@@robbievengence that’s what I mean. Some comparisons I’ve seen is out of the box settings, and it looks dull compared to others but with a little play and hdr on, should be fine, can’t wait to get mine this week for my ps5👍🏻
@@colk41 for gaming I haven’t seen anything better. Honestly Overall it’s the best tv you can buy for the money
@David Colk hi did you get the LG C1 what’s you’re take on it any good
Straight up honest review with no bias. From a fellow TH-cam or now a subscriber.
Qual tem o software mais rápido? Eu tenho uma samasung e acho o sistema muito lento, traava direto, queria saber como é o da C1.
New subscriber. I've enjoyed your point of view and especially the comparisons. The gaming on the Samsung looked amazing! The DSE is a shame. I don't know why other companies don't give 4 HDMI 2.1 ports like LG.
ABL OLED is also shame
@@trumpameri1638 hahaha
That ''grid'' on the QN90A tells me all I need to know... I've gone through 2 Q90T's because of that reason (but worse than you're seeing here on both) + a VRR mode that completely shifts the colors to, quite literally, unusable levels. Despite the lower brightness and potential burn-in... OLED it is I guess!
Sucks that you had those! Guess I'm lucky with mine!
@Kind Old Raven - Are you concerned with low brightness SDR on OLED, say with Switch gaming?
Also, are you concerned with vertical banding in low-light gaming?
I have an OLED, I have not seen any image quality like it ever. But there is a huge drawback to the color accuracy and AI image sharpening. The movie magic is gone. You can clearly see the separation of different effects if the movie was not tested on OLED screens. The OLED Screen is also not a longevity proposition. By design it will have a shorter life than other TVs, but you should still be able to get a good 5 years out of it. For HDR content there is no competition for OLED until uLED.
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn my Led is only 5 years old and the LEDs in the top are starting to burn out
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn I think most TV purchases should be considered a "Consumable" item. Trying to sell an old TV after say 5 years can be a nightmare. They drop it value to almost nothing and people still try to haggle you down if you even get anyone interested. The larger it is, its even harder to get rid of. I gave away my last 65" because it just wasn't worth it. A family member can enjoy it more than I will the couple hundred I get off of some cheap-o who doesn't deserve that good of deal lol
I just got the qn90a 75” and it’s the absolute best tv I’ve ever owned. I’ve had Oled in a bright room it wouldn’t even be a comparison. In a dark room, wow it’s amazing, not oled level but close and much brighter. I don’t see blooming or banding, it’s perfect. I play games so this is a must compared to Oled, as that’s why I had to replace my last one with burn in.
you can definitely see the banding
Samsung needs to start making OLED TVs
Qled better
Don,t need to, NEO QLED are amazing,i also have a Qled agaIn great tv but Neo Qled is better.
Unfortunately all the strengths of the Samsung are rendered worthless to me due to its terrible DSE.
It's ugly, isn't it?
@@tertozer3543 - Yes. But so are OLED Venetian blind grids and vertical banding. Both display technologies have their strengths and weaknesses.
Beautiful fantastic review.. I love how you changed the setting to match the tvs and showed us the differnce once more. Thank You so much you helped me buy samsung and thanks to you i love ittt!
Good Video! would you say that the QN95A is way better than the QN90A? I struggle a little bit which of them i should buy.
I believe that the only difference between them, is that the 90 has 1 hdmi 2.1 port While the 95 has 4. So if you need more then one, the 95 might be better. Not entirely sure.
Stopped watching when the guy said the color temperature was different between the two TV's, and that he hadn't bothered to correct this. Well, there goes any hopes of a real comparison.
@@SPPACATR I guess he's doing an "out of the box" comparison as most people won't get their TV calibrated, but yes, you're right. There are also lots of ways to adjust the picture on the C1 to get it looking as good, or possibly better than the QN90A.
Man that DSE on the samsung, once you see it it’s over
Wait till you see the burn in on the OLED
@@Jg-be7it I am waiting 3+ years to see burn in on my oled. Still nothing and I use it primarily for gaming.
@@joKerchy sure...sounds believable.
@@Jg-be7it it does not require your belief to be honest lol
@@joKerchy Nah, just requires a semblance of reality. Enjoy your burn in.
Is the c1 really that much better at motion handling and sdr upscaling than the cx or is it really minuscule?
I have a G1 in the bedroom, C8 in the living room, and I’m going to get the QN90A for the basement since its the brightest room.